I completely agree with you. Gladiator SP, and I’ve played a lot of shuffle and arena. VW is def better and more free in shuffle and any 3s comp not caster. Archon is so telegraphed too. VW also does meaningful dmg. And Halo is pad. Preach Boni!
"I don't think Warlock has Soul Leech, I think they lost it," mere seconds after he shows us a Warlock dominating his HPS with Soul Leech xD I've never played Priest, have never tried PvP, and I still really enjoyed the video. Fun to hear people who are passionate about their spec talk about it.
Nice gonna give this a go. One question tho, since you want this all to line up with your stun silence thats 45s cd, wouldnt it be better to drop malediction to have void torrent just be its baseline 45s to match your cc and use the point elsewhere as i can see me wanting to sit on void torrent when i know the healer doesnt have a trinket to stop the go? Plus you can pick up mindbender and smooth out your insanity regen as it will be up close to the time due to the initial ramp as well as voidwraith might be also good for initial presure?
The same about arcane spellslinger! I never saw any other player but me playing spellslinger. It's so fun procking orbs, having a dot or a automatic skill that deal 200k dmg behind walls or out of range
I agree. I tested out Archon initially but got curious and tested voidweaver. I like it much better but I tried a different set of talents. I will def try yours out. Also agree on the momentum part. It's so tough as SP to get everything going as you just instantly get charged and tunneled while we cast cast cast. Btw you say void form is useless but it gives us a 10% dmg bonus which is nice imo. Void torrent while being able to move is another reason I prefer voidweaver. I'd wish mindblast but also SW:Death did some more dmg. It's so weak as a "execute" it's pathetic
If you say Void Form doesn't do anything and the first problem is always ramp time - Dark Ascension gives 30 insanity, which ramps you much faster than nothing.
Void leech was trash on beta unless they changed it. I remember it was taking 3% health from your team members and healing you for less because it was reduced by dampening.😂
I was playing with insidious ire while in last season of df to try pump more dmg from mind blast and without it did 100k max and with insidious ire it magically goes to 500k even so i haven't tried spriest yet but if i have the chance i'll try to commit to void blast with insidious ire, i'm sure it can do good dmg but it sucks i have to max out every buff possible while the rest can do dps mindlessly lol
That's sad. This came about because they balance the entire damage profile instead of the individual abilities. Each ability used to be balanced against other abilities by cast time and cooldown.
I main priest it’s my Highest exp and can’t find partners because everyone would rather play with anything else (except enhance sorry buds) I’m retooling feral until i find someone willing to play with the 4th best lock spec
How is it harder than Voidweaver to keep mobile? You either bet on casting mind flay insanity or you cast void blast. Both specs have mobility problems.
@heroman1322 idk, I haven't tried voidweaver yet. But yes, priests in general have mobility problems. My warrior and pally are speed machines in comparison
3:01 that's true, that's pure bullshit. Like, how can Enhancement Shamans be able to deal 3+ million damage with one Lightning Bolt that can be INSTANT, and without cooldown? And I don't play the expansion... but from what I saw on Twitch and UA-cam, they spam that ability like crazy! ... but Mind Blast has an 8 second CD, with 2 charges, can also be sometimes insta-cast - but deals only that much damage? It's ridiculous.
@@anboniwow I think mindbender + inescapable torment should be pretty strong together when having that many mindbenders. Maybe just remove 2 points from Dark evanglism?
@@videofabriken you're talking about 10% more damage to mind blast and shadow word: death. Those abilities deal about 3% of someone's health bar. That means that Inescapable torment bumps then from 3% "nukes" to 3.3% absolute health bar deleters. If you deselect the talent you won't even realize it's gone.
You can tell me Voidweaver is better when it gets more damage for PvP. My Archon loadout usually brings me near top dps on average and outperforms Voidweaver. Sure we have mind flay insanity, but having someone run away from my floaty void disk happens WAAY more than my mind flay insanity getting interrupted. I will play it when we get some damage buffs to compensate for how easy some classes can avoid the damage.
@@princessmagilouEven in single target, Archon has higher single target dps. Voidweaver has more burst and more windows of damage than Archon. They are both viable in different situations. For example.. Archon is waay better against MM hunter than voidweaver is, but Voidweaver is nice for peeling for healers. You even prove my point in a way. People shouldn’t feel comfortable sitting in the void. It needs a debuff or a damage boost.
610 ilvl, Archon doing 1.5m dps burst for the first 20 seconds dropping to 800k dps, meanwhile Voidweaver is doing 800+k burst before dropping to 500k dps... Voidweaver only shines for PvP due to mobile void torrent or rift causing slow effect.
I've been saying this. Archon is trash outside the meme MF:I. You do no damage in-between the minute long halo cd. VW is every 30 seconds, has better burst. I switch between void leech and embrace the shadow depending on environment. Delves/instanced pvp I leech. World pvp I use embrace because I will likely run into a lock/dk so that 3 percent absorb + heal matters.
sp should be tanky since, like you said, it has no mobility and has to cast a lot, but permanent passive hot ain't it imo. Also, while void leech is super broken in a long game, it doesn't help against burst damage.
Blind Blast is cucked, because SPriests are stuck in PvE hell for ever. Psy-link for aoe, if mind blast hits like a truck , its going to break Spriest AOE. p.s. Lock aoe is absolutely broken btw.
I just hit 80 today as Shadow. With a PVP Ilvl of 625 my Void Blast Crits for 1mil and Torrent is crit for 653k each tick. I think It might be worth trying a crit build with Mind Spike
"Your explosion can do 1.5M damage, like almost an Ice Lance" got me chocking on my drink
VOIDWEAVER SUPREMACY!!! ALL HAIL SHADOW KING BONI!
The next few xpacs are about the void. How we supposed to fear the power of the void, when mind blast tickles there foe
My god, nothing makes me happier than seeing Boni video pop up on my feed. Love you Boni
I haven't played retail wow in a while, but it's nice to listen to someone passionate about their class, especially since i also mained SP
"this class is kind of a victim class"
realest thing ive heard this whole xpac 😭
@ 12:25
"Victim Class"
I just can't lol. Couldn't contain bursting out laughing haha.
Been voidweaver since D1! Love the damage and the play style.
I completely agree with you. Gladiator SP, and I’ve played a lot of shuffle and arena. VW is def better and more free in shuffle and any 3s comp not caster. Archon is so telegraphed too. VW also does meaningful dmg. And Halo is pad. Preach Boni!
“Don’t get it twisted, SP still sucks” hahah this got me
"each mind flay is as good as an ice lance" 🤣🤣 (sad in SP)
Anboni, the hero we need AND deserve
Ayee its the most handsome shadow priest around! ^_^
He's looking more handsome than before (if that was even possible)
6% buff today lettts gooooo
"I don't think Warlock has Soul Leech, I think they lost it," mere seconds after he shows us a Warlock dominating his HPS with Soul Leech xD
I've never played Priest, have never tried PvP, and I still really enjoyed the video. Fun to hear people who are passionate about their spec talk about it.
Nice gonna give this a go. One question tho, since you want this all to line up with your stun silence thats 45s cd, wouldnt it be better to drop malediction to have void torrent just be its baseline 45s to match your cc and use the point elsewhere as i can see me wanting to sit on void torrent when i know the healer doesnt have a trinket to stop the go? Plus you can pick up mindbender and smooth out your insanity regen as it will be up close to the time due to the initial ramp as well as voidwraith might be also good for initial presure?
The same about arcane spellslinger! I never saw any other player but me playing spellslinger. It's so fun procking orbs, having a dot or a automatic skill that deal 200k dmg behind walls or out of range
I agree. I tested out Archon initially but got curious and tested voidweaver. I like it much better but I tried a different set of talents. I will def try yours out. Also agree on the momentum part. It's so tough as SP to get everything going as you just instantly get charged and tunneled while we cast cast cast. Btw you say void form is useless but it gives us a 10% dmg bonus which is nice imo. Void torrent while being able to move is another reason I prefer voidweaver. I'd wish mindblast but also SW:Death did some more dmg. It's so weak as a "execute" it's pathetic
I usually trust him more but some of this advice is from too much copium huffing 😂
You actually don't get 10% damage, because you lose Shadowform (which is also a 10% damage buff)
@@domzaeWoW right, didn't know that, thanks
If you say Void Form doesn't do anything and the first problem is always ramp time - Dark Ascension gives 30 insanity, which ramps you much faster than nothing.
People used to fear Mind Blast.
Void leech was trash on beta unless they changed it. I remember it was taking 3% health from your team members and healing you for less because it was reduced by dampening.😂
I really wish it took health from enemies and not allies. Thematically it makes so much better sense.
@@Terror1Void No, it doesn't. Thematically shadow priests will do anything for power, even sacrificing their own friends.
why dont we play mindbender, isnt that really good because of the low cd?
What do you think about swapping intangibility for mindbender? having problems getting enough insanity after the first burst
what the pvp gear that gives you proc?
can you share your death speaker weakaura ?
I was playing with insidious ire while in last season of df to try pump more dmg from mind blast and without it did 100k max and with insidious ire it magically goes to 500k even so i haven't tried spriest yet but if i have the chance i'll try to commit to void blast with insidious ire, i'm sure it can do good dmg but it sucks i have to max out every buff possible while the rest can do dps mindlessly lol
What headset are you using? Looks AMAZING!!!!
You think mind blast damage is bad? Look at enhancement shaman’s stormstrike, 144k (pre 17th buff, 168k now) as a 633 shaman
That's sad. This came about because they balance the entire damage profile instead of the individual abilities. Each ability used to be balanced against other abilities by cast time and cooldown.
tell em Anboni 🐐
That looks like a Tellmewhen Catharsis notification. How do you have it set up!?
What if they kick VT? Void veawer is done as well?
I main priest it’s my Highest exp and can’t find partners because everyone would rather play with anything else (except enhance sorry buds) I’m retooling feral until i find someone willing to play with the 4th best lock spec
Whats te addon for proca
Should we cast shadow word death during the burst window as well or not worth it?
So is using void form in raids and mythic plus worth it or is dark ascension better lol
Been playing SP in double DPS 2s. I cant seem to even touch my feral partners damage even with free casting.
A wise man once said 'Why play Shadow Priest if you can play a Warlock'
Because the Void is Cool
look at the shadow priest he thinks he's a warlock LOL just go roll a warlock noob
@@deletedTestimony Demons are so out its all about the Void now.
Because I like shadowform
I honestly really like priest cause I get to fuck the other team over with voidswap, life grip, off heals etc.
no share export string? :(
Affliction self healing is strong. Destro has nothing but stone for healing.
Missed your content, keep it up!
can you link us your tmog pls
i love ur shadowpriest breakdown videos :D
I'm not convinced until I see you 1v1 Savix
I was thinking about trying voidweaver today. Even trying to quest, it's hard to keep mobile with archon. I get my shit pushed in if I don't kite
How is it harder than Voidweaver to keep mobile? You either bet on casting mind flay insanity or you cast void blast. Both specs have mobility problems.
@heroman1322 idk, I haven't tried voidweaver yet. But yes, priests in general have mobility problems. My warrior and pally are speed machines in comparison
When someone kicks Void Torrent or anything else that's not MF:I, I chuckle and go "Now you melt."
At least our dots hit for a nothing
3:01 that's true, that's pure bullshit.
Like, how can Enhancement Shamans be able to deal 3+ million damage with one Lightning Bolt that can be INSTANT, and without cooldown? And I don't play the expansion... but from what I saw on Twitch and UA-cam, they spam that ability like crazy!
... but Mind Blast has an 8 second CD, with 2 charges, can also be sometimes insta-cast - but deals only that much damage? It's ridiculous.
Yet enhancement shamans are much worse than shadow priests...hmmm
what is precog?
A gem that gives you 4 sec of cc and kick immunity when you fake a kick
hey anboni, love the content, could i get your Deathspeaker proc Weak aura plzz ?
I had to push 1.6k as a pve guy to get 4p because I got 2 set tokens in the raid. Archon was a pain in the ass especially in 3s. Unplayable in 3s.
I know this is pvp video, but after recent buffs i think even in pve void is now better overall...Maybe only in M+ (high keys) archon is better
"Kind of a victim class" I'm dead
I wonder when MD and DR will get some love
9:37 shadowfiend is cleaning himself
Man up and drop the shadow crash crutch to become a mind devourer boni.
This seems like the closest thing to shadow ball sp without being shadow ball sp
@@williamforbes7156 except shadow orb sp dealt the damage of 5 retail dps simply by casting mind blast once.
Void leech literally heals twice as much as mind blast does damage 😂
Great video! ❤️
Love your videos man ty
My darling Blizzard is allergic to dots doing dmg
So shouldnt you play mindbender if you get that many shadowfiends?
mindbender does less damage and generates the same insanity. :(
@@anboniwow I think mindbender + inescapable torment should be pretty strong together when having that many mindbenders. Maybe just remove 2 points from Dark evanglism?
@@videofabrikenIt's not worth.
@@mistakai4226 10% more pad dmg more worth? I dno man. I think its better for kill potential
@@videofabriken you're talking about 10% more damage to mind blast and shadow word: death. Those abilities deal about 3% of someone's health bar. That means that Inescapable torment bumps then from 3% "nukes" to 3.3% absolute health bar deleters. If you deselect the talent you won't even realize it's gone.
I don't play anymore, but I enjoy your game play
You can tell me Voidweaver is better when it gets more damage for PvP. My Archon loadout usually brings me near top dps on average and outperforms Voidweaver. Sure we have mind flay insanity, but having someone run away from my floaty void disk happens WAAY more than my mind flay insanity getting interrupted. I will play it when we get some damage buffs to compensate for how easy some classes can avoid the damage.
I guess archon is the way to go in bgs, and voidweaver in arenas against melees, they usually dont run from the rift too
@@princessmagilouEven in single target, Archon has higher single target dps. Voidweaver has more burst and more windows of damage than Archon. They are both viable in different situations. For example.. Archon is waay better against MM hunter than voidweaver is, but Voidweaver is nice for peeling for healers. You even prove my point in a way. People shouldn’t feel comfortable sitting in the void. It needs a debuff or a damage boost.
I will try this
The Bone COOKED again
I feel seen by this intro
Tier bonus is nerfed by 50% in pvp
I dont think is broken, specially when i'm playing in a lobby full of melee specs.
I feel less mobility with archon.
610 ilvl, Archon doing 1.5m dps burst for the first 20 seconds dropping to 800k dps, meanwhile Voidweaver is doing 800+k burst before dropping to 500k dps...
Voidweaver only shines for PvP due to mobile void torrent or rift causing slow effect.
yayyyyy ! void is good ! actually played bc it looks very good, but i m happy to learn it s not "meta bad"
legacy shadow priest when
brooo we need new videos, do voidweaver pvp
Hear, hear!
Shadow priest is 100% a victim class! Not by choice tho.... haha
void leech just steals it from an ally
that's true but everyone has a ton of passive healing so it's not really felt
Howdy, Boni
Archon is pure pad DMG, and even then only if you get the free cast which is rare. Void Weaver is a thousand times better
Legend
I've been saying this. Archon is trash outside the meme MF:I. You do no damage in-between the minute long halo cd. VW is every 30 seconds, has better burst.
I switch between void leech and embrace the shadow depending on environment. Delves/instanced pvp I leech. World pvp I use embrace because I will likely run into a lock/dk so that 3 percent absorb + heal matters.
dislike for telling blizz to nerf shadow again. jk love u boni
the archon has better survivability imo.. just triple Halo healing you and your mates can clutch shit
hardest cope
/s very deadly
Voidweaver would be better, if entropic rift just lasted longer than 8 seconds x-x
Rbgs halo is too strong to pass up
Try playing voidweaver with no halo and no psychic link and tell me if you even notice the difference in a bg.
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SP SHOULD BE TANKY THE ONLY CLASS WITHOUT MOBILITY!! We have no damage, no mobility and now you saying they should make us squishy on top?? 😂
sp should be tanky since, like you said, it has no mobility and has to cast a lot, but permanent passive hot ain't it imo.
Also, while void leech is super broken in a long game, it doesn't help against burst damage.
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plz stop being a cauterize shadows hater, talents OP stop spreading ur propaganda
Archon sucks all it has is halo which is only good on large aoe groups.
Your first mistake was to play pvp 😂
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Blind Blast is cucked, because SPriests are stuck in PvE hell for ever. Psy-link for aoe, if mind blast hits like a truck , its going to break Spriest AOE.
p.s.
Lock aoe is absolutely broken btw.
I just hit 80 today as Shadow. With a PVP Ilvl of 625 my Void Blast Crits for 1mil and Torrent is crit for 653k each tick. I think It might be worth trying a crit build with Mind Spike
Voidblast should be hitting that hard without a Crit.
@@mistakai4226 I agree with that. I did get Collasping Void and Mind Spike Insanity to crit for over 2mil but those aren't a guarantee crit like VB