Regarding rape: "...as if any of this (dress code/inebriation/flirting) means that she loses the right to the control of her own body" ...is a truth that some people seem to overlook - even women. I'm grateful for Martha's courage in speaking up. I'm also grateful for all the men out there (like my bf) who support feminist movement - it gives me hope for this world.
I don't like to bring this up, but feminism makes women MORE vulnerable. I once even told my mom that if she were attacked, I'm not sure if I would defend her. She asked why, and i said "you would see that as too male. You would see me as being the wrong one for NOT standing by. That's just who you are, mom"
@@ms.sherry You absolutely did. "I don't like to bring this up, but" [proceeds to spit BS nonsense all over] ....... Then just don't ? Cause no one does?
GreyPunkWolf, let me guess your talking about " toxic masculinity " ? The term means many things to different people, the most common meaning I've found is aspects of masculinity that harms both men and the people around them, specifically bottling up their emotions no matter what until it starts negatively affecting their mental health, or using violence to solve all their problems even when it isn't necessary. Protecting others isn't toxic masculinity.
InandaroundTO: In the worldwide web of misogyny, these MRA dudes would rather die than admit that women need a specific kind of voice and activism to counteract millenia of abuse by men, and its name is feminism.
I have suffered a lot from women being misogynistic towards me . many of them they just do the hate and judgement without even realising its misogyny. I got more discriminated against and excluded by women that I was wondering what is the point of equality battles when women are tearing each others down. I hope many women support each others more
@@mariayout9325 Kill haters with kindness! There will always be some people trying to put you down - regardless of gender. Most of us women support each other. I wish you well!
I used to do that a lot as well. I was very thankful to my friend for opening my eyes, because I used to judge both women and men. I think I just treated these people how the world wanted me to treat them, because our society didn't accept what they represented. I'm very happy that you realised that and that you are being true to yourself. I wish you the best!🙏🍄🌸💗
I was bought up in a gender separate household, mum cook and cleaned, dad did DIY and drove the family car. Never really saw the point of this separation, work is work! I feel I can do anything that needs to be done, and do. I wish my wife and daughters would see things the same way and step out of their perceived traditional feminine roles, occasionally. Anyway, brilliant speaker with a clear message to all. Mr Cave Man, please listen and stop being such a twit! To any women who read this, I'm 60 and totally invisible, I think this silver fox thing is a myth. The media isn't particularly good to men of my age either. Beware of those who push stereo types as the norm.
Would u mind working in mines or going on the frontline in wars while men chill at home? And would u mind abplishing yhe law that forces men to pay alimony and allow men to have children after the divorce?
I was called a slut way before I had even kissed somebody. I was around 11 years old and I felt alone and ashamed for weeks. They made me feel it was my fault. They controlled me like this. Through shame. This is how they silenced and isolated me. So that I would not be myself anymore. Because they wanted to stay in control and were afraid of change. Shame on a society that allows 11 year old girls to go through this alone.
The idea is that cats are replacements for babies while not needing as much money or time or care, etc, because the woman was not able to find a husband and start a family. Therefore she's "alone" because she couldn't get what everyone else had, and is now trying to compensate and it was considered "pathetic".
About one third of respondents reasoned that the victim of rape is responsible in some way for the rape is heartbreaking to say the least. This is not a problem however that applies only to feminists and to those standing against sexual assault. In psychology they refer to this as the 'just world phenomenon' and it is one of the darker sides of our brains. It is our brains way of protecting ourselves from empathy, from the truth that is just too hard to hear. Hearing about the number of rapes that occur, the number of homeless living on the streets starving, the violence in our society, if we fail to find a way to rationalize these things we would have to face responsibility for them. Talks like this are a small step to a brightr future where people help each other
Yes, the "just world phenomenon" is so creepy. This flawed logic is also used to justify the disproportionate amount of People of color in prisons. Because of this, someone could come to the conclusion that POC commit more crimes rather than the truth that law enforcement personnel are racist.
m martin The more interesting part is that they don't need to site sources or somehow give them. But of-course all given statistics are flawless and those who report them in media are always honest and definitely understands them, honest. But hey as long as you give a good performance nowadays at any TED Talk who cares about how correct the information is or where it's from. And neither about the methodology, rhetoric behind the research and not just the end results in a tear-jerking speech.
+Alex A Oh, and it is men who are raping other men in prison. So it's still your shit to fix. Congrats. Maybe try actually giving a fuck about the victims and doing something about it rather than bringing it up as a silencing tactic.
+Elisif Wander, Yeah, and I bet you're one of those women who is happy to let the man pay for the meal - and in so doing, playing the same game that he's playing - and then think he's wrong when he complains at not getting sex. Women don't like to be 'bought' for sex with gifts and fine treatment (although they'll take them) but they are happy to be prostitutes, porn performers, strippers, lap dancers, topless waitresses... How else do you think men will see you when this is how you behave?
+Elisif Wander, no, he's bringing up these points not as a silencing tactic but to illustrate your hypocracy. The point is that you're ONLY concerned about the rape of women. You don't give a shit for male suffering and do nothing to stop it - not even so little as *speak* against it.
how about a hungry soldier who has to fight off enemy soldiers close to your hometown? context is important, for u derstanding why this became "a rule" in some countries
@@Foodpermaculture I learned more from your short comment than this entire speech. I felt like the speaker used an out of context and remote example as her diving board for 'feminism' and 'societal change.' I feel people that think like her want to think with their feelings more than understanding the world. But she is good at speaking so she comes off as profound and amazing.
Kawaii girl, there are some woman who do hate feminism, granted it is mostly men. The woman who do hate feminism tend be extremely old fashioned and very religious. I've seen woman argue woman shouldn't be allowed to vote. It's simultaneously infuriating and kinda sad that these woman have been brainwashed into thinking so little of themselves and other woman.
This was great! I love how intelligent she is. I also love how she brought up the media's view of Jennifer Aniston. I will always see that actress as a really funny, successful, nice and beautiful woman. But it seems like every time I walk through a grocery store, I see magazines with her face on it, and the title has something to do with whether or not she's having a baby, or whether or not she's found the right man. Like... who cares??
If you're rich, powerful, successful, renown for your beauty, have men who'd gladly be with you and who explicitly want a family like you do....Then multiple times you fail and we know its not the guy's fault (they marry the next woman they date after you and settle down with kids) then...it goes to reason that the problem was you. And this is why Jennifer is pitied.
dothedeed If a guy marries the girl after you, it means he made a choice that the woman after you was more suited to him. It doesn't mean that you were wrong as a woman, it means you were wrong for him and, equally, he was wrong for you. It means whoever he settled with better matched his story, which may or may not be a healthy one. If someone doesn't marry you, that does not mean you should be pitied or that there is anything wrong with you. Marriage is not the end game and it is certainly not automatic happiness. Many people marry out of fear and many people stay married out of fear. Many people pretend to the outside world that they are happy in their marriage because they so want to be happy. It's not about being rich, powerful, "successful", renowned for your beauty or having people *think* they'd gladly be with you according to their perception of you, and it is not about getting married and having kids. It is about being true to yourself and working out what is right for you, never mind what other people think.
As a man Jennifer Anniston having a baby is one thing I do not care about. Wonderful but I don't care. I don't know her. She isn't that good looking anyway. I know women better looking than her.
I think perfection is when you love yourself. When you love yourself with any body type, any facial features, any age. When you know you’re going to love yourself when you’re 60, and say “no matter my age, I still love myself”. When you have a baby, and gain a little bit of weight, and say “no matter my size, I still love myself”. When you have acne, and you’re going through changes, or it’s just part of your DNA, and say “no matter matter the pimples and acne, I look beautiful, I still love myself”. When you understand, and cherish the importance of your happiness and freedom. That’s what I think perfection is.
So what if there were faults in her speech? The purpose of the talk is to spread her ideas to people who are open-minded and are willing to listen. Just because you disagree doesn't mean that the side you take is right, nor does it make you wrong. I can't pretend I understood every single thing she said, there were some in-jokes probably only native speakers would get, but I personally think that she did a wonderful job of telling people about her passion and what she stands up for. It made me think, and captured my attention entirely. I think she did a beautiful job of spreading her message. Loved it.
Fantastic speech, I feel so incredibly frustrated with our sexist society. I get labeled as the "slut" constantly when it couldn't be further from the truth. Then I worry about being known as "hitting the wall" or desperate when I reach 30+, it's ridiculous that women are given a sexual expiry date at the peak of their sexuality. It's usually made into some cougar joke. Yet men date women in their 20's when they're 50. Please don't give me that fertility bs, older men who reproduce can struggle to conceive as well.
I feel like these issues affect the black/African American community to a tenfold due to the huge influence of Christianity. I'm 20 now and I've already told my family that I don't plan on having children or getting married, and because of that they think that something is wrong with me.
+chilewith carnage (PrincessInuyasha890) Wanting to have kids is human nature. It''s just plain nature as a matter of fact. Even animals are the same way. Not wanting to have kids renders you "abnormal" by default. Accept who you are instead of instead of trying to find fault in religion or others for seeing you as you are.
It's discouraging to see comments like the ones written below that discourage feminists or feminism. Yes we are concerned about humanism and equality, but we are talking about a specific demographic that receives bombarding messages on perfection, labelling, and presentation. Most of these comments I see below are comments from men. All women are asking is for men to sympathize and recognize the social imbalance. It can't be hard to envision the most important woman in your life (your wife, mother, sister, best friend) going through something like this, to be constricted and blamed for everything wrong in her life. Do you want her to take the blame if someone rapes her or if a man hires her soley based on her appearance (hence check out her tits)? That woman is your life is more than that! She should be celebrated. Feminism is about changing social attitude, not hating men or blaming them. It's simply changing an ideology.
+kimboga90 i agree with you to an extent. i'm not against feminism, but i'm not a fan of any "ism" in general, because most of the people who identify with preconceived ideologies take those as dogmas and do not put what they learned into prespective. let's talk about feminism: from a purely conceptual standpoint, as you rightly stated, "is about changing social attitude, not hating men", but if you fill a room with only women who adhere with the feminist movement, you bet the discussion will ultimately end down the path of man hate and the blame game. sure it is not the ideology's fault, but how different minds with different cultural levels respond to the same input needs to be taken into consideration. let's make a bit of "hidden" history now: at the very beginning of the feminist movement CIA manifested a certain interest in it, not in the ideology per se, but in the predicted outcome. the CIA predicted that the feminist movement would ultimately generate a demographic of women who tent to see the concept of "family" as an obstacle to their freedom, creating therefore a tear in the natural relationship between the opposite sexes; in the eyes of the CIA feminist women who had kids were more willing to go back to their jobs sooner and leave their kids to afternoon school programs, creating by default a generations of homogenous, more esaily controllable minds. again, it's not the ideology to blame. now look at young ones, how they respond to sex, how they interact with each other. do you think feminism could be of any help about this issue? about rights: it doesn't take a social movement to asses the gravity of sexual assault, or the job opportunity imbalance (i want to share a point with you: here in Italy young women have more chances to get a better starting job than men), but it takes a movement like feminism to call verbal sexual assault a man saying to a girl "you look hot today", it might be rude, but to call it "assault" is beyond stretch. see, this discussion could go on forever, and this happends because the two or more sexes see the opinin of it's opposite as a personal attack, and that's the problem with "isms": anyone see it in a different way and opinions can be mistaken for attacks. so, here's my 2 rpoposals: 1- let's bury our weapons, look into each other and learn to respect and appreciate and, most of all, make a huge self criticism beyond local/political/religious culture 2- let's learn from nature: whether we like it or not, men and women are not born phisiologically equal, i'm not saying one is better that the other, i'm just suggesting we all should learn to live with our differences. together as humans we can go beyond our limitations, if mwn and women keep on bickering we're doomed.
+Squadsenser I would suggest 'Memenism'! Just a thought Squadsenser. However you are correct Feminism is outdated, overused and frankly it brings to mind in many, lesbianism.
+kimboga90, All men are asking for is for women to recognise that the blame for all the messages about perfection that bombard them should fall on the WOMEN who do the modelling and the WOMEN who buy the very magazines that contain these 'terrible' ads. The 'check out her tits' ideology exists because women love it! They send pictures in of themselves topless to Nuts magazine's 'Rate my Breasts' - for free! Countless women enter beauty contests despite that feminists have begged and pestered them not to, and model. Indeed, the 'pornified' society we live in today wouldn't exist if WOMEN could only keep their clothes on. Women cannot claim to be responsible enough to have the vote, and claim to be independent, yet also claim to be incapable of refusing photographers and pornographers. Women want their cake and want to be able to eat it. They want to be free to prostitute themselves if they wish yet not take the blame for the society they get when they do this.
Really appreciate this Ted Talk with Martha Mosse! The fighting for equality is not over until everyone everywhere has equal rights and opportunities. That's what feminism really is all about. It's not about putting men down like some insecure men try to spindoctor it.
Women who are still single like me should look at it that way : no risk of being cheated upon and getting diseases, no risk of being overwhelmed with taking care of a house and children and ensuring that everyone is happy, no risk of finding oneself divorced after years of battle and mean acts and having to provide and take care of children without help, support or money and the risk of having no retirement or a very small pension because you started so late ... not such a bad prospect in my view
Reading the comments might just drive me to drink an entire bottle of vodka by myself. Instead of arguing we should all just not be assholes to each other and maybe then most disputes would be solved. Seems like that might never happen, but I can dream ridiculous thoughts if I so please :')
The problem with assholes is that they don't know that they are assholes. They always think they are intelligent (because they are too stupid to know the truth) so they try to educate others - spewing shit everywhere they go.
If we are all feminist because we all believe in equality of gender, then we are all masculists too cause we all beleive in equality of gender. It was a beautiful talk btw :)
Omg I love this so rare that beauty standards are recognised as being something that effects men and women, also as an infertile 33 year old I feel a massive social pressure to have kids and regularly get treated as a failure in life by both men and women, despite being highly successful in other areas of my life.
It's so encouraging to think that, while gender inequality is still an issue, it is being discussed intelligently and that more kids (girls AND boys) are refusing to play the game of gender and are just doing what they enjoy and being who they are regardless of stereotypes. The conversation is still full of dispute and not a small amount of anger and hatred, but the conversation IS happening, and over time, the genders will become more and more equal. Equality is a process, after all. So whether you call yourself feminist, humanist, or whatever, I'm glad we're all in the conversation together.
To differ from all of the negative comments, I thought this was lovely, and it will definitely help with my persuasive essay on feminism for English. (:
I really liked this. There are many different ways to view inequality. I know your views are far more complex than a 10 minute speech (unlike some of the people who are negative here) but the points you make well thought out and valid. Well done and keep it up - I'm a feminist too even though I am a bloke :-)
She is great! Most people do not understand what Feminism actually is. Feminism is the belief in political, economic and social equalitiy of the sexes. (NOTE: equality of the SEXES, which includes MEN, because they are one of the sexes) Feminism IS NOT a belief that women are somehow 'better'.
jchahine We need more actually practice of feminism, instead of people just theorizing about it or making their own claims about what they think it is, when they do not know what it is.
Faerie Tale I find it dogmatic to act as if the dictionary definition is inviolable and anyone who disagrees simply doesn't understand. I've never known any other movement to quote its own dictionary definition with such incredible frequency, or even at all. Perhaps because they would know it's a fairly flimsy defence in the face of criticism.
How is all this aggression and anger working for men seems to me that it is the cause of all that is wrong in the world. Thankfully there are some men who will act like real men and speak up and should and know that we should not consider either gender as weak or strong but has human beings. We need more men to step up and do the right thing.
+Micke B thats the feminist movement take notice of the "We need more men to step up" thing it's what they always say infact it's like being married because when they got a step stool right there they scream equality at you until you get the dish off the top shelf for them because it's too demanding they use the step stool.........feminists always always always scream that men need to change and men need to make women's rights equal and blah blah blah... I'm all about equality and fairness because equality does not mean fair. Yet I am about eqaulity for everyone not just one race or one gender maybe if all these people joined hands and fought with each other for equailty we would have it by now. They chose instead to do it themselves but making everyone do the work for them.
+mctm1221 Real men don't need to do _anything,_ let alone "step up." Real men don't need to just do what others tell them. These idiotic feminist videos are simply bitching and complaining that men are always at fault for _every_ thing wrong in the world, and that they 'need' to do something for women. The hilarious part is: they're pretending to be 'strong, independent women, that 'don't need no man to help them,' yet continuously are demanding for men to *help them. They're asking the 'patriarchy' to help them in destroying the patriarchy.* No contradiction to see here, folks. Move along.
How can anyone take feminist women seriously where practically every utterance is emotionalism and lacks actual facts, is not logical, or fails to provide any actual arguments? Maybe if they could stop emoting, and do more actual thinking, make rational arguments, and present facts, their opinion could be considered. But alas, as they _all_ do they fail to actually _have_ any actual discourse, but instead resort to emotional pleas, shaming tactics, and double standards. Plus they can't even think clearly.
Right, because women never *ever* curse, swear, or ever get emotional. They also never disagree with men. Right. Sure. "It's not emotion or illogical to acknowledge the suffering of women around the world and work to change it. " Yeah, right, because only women worldwide, are the ones who ever suffer. Men, children, or animals, worldwide are just perfectly fine and dandy. Right.
That's the first TEDx speech that actually made sense to the topic, kept me interested, didn't confuse at any point, and actually taught something. This woman sounds very intelligent.
Lovely talk! I am a woman and I used to label people, myself included. I feel happier, more content and more accepting with myself and others when I realized that. So now I just be me and try to accept people for what they are, not just women, but everyone.
+Snake1n Actually mad boys and boys of reason and logic. For example, ain't funny she start saying that labels are dangerous and that's why she label herself as a feminist? I'm scratching my head on that one alone trying to find any logic...
Isn't it remarkable how threatened and defensive ostensibly adult males can get over one word? I think she is a wonderful role model for the ideals of modern feminism. I have the impression that you are, too.
In the opening Dubai story the speaker overlooks that in a traditional household the women also get to talk privately together. It is built right into the system.
great talk. I am very happy to know that there are plenty of women and men who are not willing to overlook inequality as just a fact of life, as some women do or overlook it on the basis that it 'doesn't exist' because they haven't experienced it in their privileged lives, as some men do. We just have to have the courage to go our own way and make our voices be heard, no matter how unsettling some people may find it.
I am a spinster ... and i was even told i was barren .. i was also told that since i had no children, my life was easy and without problems ... and that i was selfish ..
Back in the 80s, when I first considered myself a feminist, there was a music video that had a girl band dancing in lingerie. I found it disgusting that these women felt the need to ooz sex to sell their otherwise good music. Of course, I had no way of knowing if these ladies readily agreed to it or if they were pressured. Last month I mentioned this video to a feminist and she defended them saying they were right to feel comfortable with their own bodies. This confused me a great deal. In the 80s, we would have immediately said they were exploited but today women shed most of their clothes to sell records and this is ok. Maybe I am old fashioned, but my greatest admiration is for a strong woman who commands attention, not to her body but to her mind, her achievements, her character, integrity and her sense of justice.
I kind of hate how this is 'covent garden women'. Yes, there need to be (female) speakers talking about women and/or equality, but can't these women speak at the 'normal' TEDx?
This is very good, I really wished I had seen this video whilst studying feminism in sociology last year, it would have made the class and work more enjoyable and engaging.
I think the problem today is there are so many definitions of the word "feminist" . I used to consider myself one, but the title has been so distorted that I no longer identify. A movement can not being taken seriously when those backing it are all on a different page.
There are many such examples in our world of one word not being big enough to describe a variety of different viewpoints. Personally I think it might be time to shift from "feminism" to "equalism" so that the motives and beliefs behind the word are transparent, rather than misleading.
Geo Synchronous Hey, I agree. I know that may seem strange, but I see this whole movement as the break down of the family. I would love to see mother's back in the homes raising the kids, taking care of the home and family while a father and husband worked and supported the household. In fact if I gave my true views on the "women's rights" issue I would likely be getting some pretty nasty replies to my comments. So, that being said, I guess we agree.
Geo Synchronous Problems began because women wanted more. They felt unappreciated and dissatisfied. They wanted more material items as well. Work outside the home was the answer. That led to higher education, a raising economy, competition for jobs and a family break down. Men didn't see this coming and were happy with the added income at the time, but there is always a downside. Presently, it is almost a necessity for both spouses to be employed. This eliminates the title "Breadwinner" and role seems to go to the one who yells the loudest. Also, we have to look at how son's and daughter's are being raised. That is another issue altogether. It ties in greatly, but smh way too intense for now.
Geo Synchronous The media causes a lot of damage. It creates the belief we are missing out on something. We are "owed" something we are not. Their job is to sell us their crap and ideas, so that they can get rich while society suffers from the brain washing effects. As long as the big corporations are making money, they don't care if families are falling apart, young blacks are killing each other and/or rioting in the streets, Police Officers are being hunted down, or the working man can't make ends meet. We have "rights" and should be grateful, but still they want more "rights"!!! Women's, Gays, Blacks, even Animals rights !!! The Liberals never stop protesting , causing some group of people to feel they are missing out on a privilege being denied them in some way , or form. Then comes your hate, violence, gangs and murders. Of course who's fault is it? Not the one's who started it, oh no! It's God's fault! Let's blame Religion! Sorry, but the whole thing makes me ill. I don't see things getting any better either.
judy Osborne One thing I'd like to point is how some women that have experienced sexism and have suffered from it (and while they're sick of this sexist culture & want to change it) they are also afraid to call themselves feminists, cause misogynists once again spew hate over a group that supports equality of the genders and make it into women-jokes material (as always). I will never be ashamed to say I support feminism, nor any woman should. Cause that's what all these fucked up sexists want, to give feminism a bad reputation, to call it names, to mock it, to destroy it.. and all that in fear that women(and many men) will stand up against this over misogynistic society (that has lasted for millenniums) and will actually change things for the better, not letting girls being shamed for what they look like or victim-blamed, not letting good boys getting beaten by "manly" bullies or called manginas or fags and actually punishing those who are TRULY harming society. This whole gender gap is ridiculous, LGBT people suffer very much from this society too. Mutual respect and consenting relationships need to be taught to young children, NOT that ridiculous non-sense gender stereotypes that girls must be the pretty artificial girly dolls and boys must be sexually abusive and dominating over them. Feminism is now more needed than ever. There are countless issues about sexism and I'm not gonna give up. No fucker with his fragile male ego can shame me with his "feminazi" bullshit. You can try all you want misogynistic scumbags, but in the end people are getting more and more aware of situations like this, victims are (finally) speaking up about their stories and those who physically/sexually/psychologically abuse others will finally be judged and pay for their hateful crimes. That includes your shitty medieval religions. So Judy... if you truly believe in gender equality then you support the ideals of feminism. There was some times that I was ashamed to say I'm a feminist but that's what sexists want. They want women to stop identifying as feminists making it seem like it's an "inferior" movement made by "oversensitive bitches". Well, hell no. As I said you don't need validation from THAT kind of people. You have other people that truly care about gender-based issues and will never shame you. People that do not feed on your apathy and self-consciousness. As I said more women (and men) are getting aware of these problems, feminist community is getting larger across the world and feminism is more needed now than ever. Or else the women who gave us the freedoms we have today fought for nothing.
Terrific! I'm very glad to be introduced to Martha and her work. Her presentation was intelligent, concise, articulate, well reasoned, and a pleasure to watch. I think that she has performed a great service to the term "Feminist" and the practice of "Feminism" through her articulation of why these matter, indeed why they are crucial. She also dispels the stereotypical view of feminists as being unfortunate looking fanatical lesbians in "comfortable shoes." Instead, she serves as living proof that a beautiful, intelligent, articulate, woman with a sense of humor can also serve as a standard bearer and role model for modern feminists. I also believe that she has the potential to positively influence a great many people's attitudes towards feminism that more traditional feminists ever could. I look forward to seeing more of her work in the future and wish her continued success with her performance art, her feminist scholarship, and her efforts to educate the public. Brava!
+motorcop505, Blimey, you've got rose-tinted specs on, haven't you? And talk about bias! Her work? Do you mean the stuff she parroted that was thought up decades ago by other feminists? Is that what you think is *her* work? Or did you notice something original? If you did, I'd be grateful if you could let me know what it is. Then what about this stereotype of feminists that you claim she's dispelled? Firstly, are you suggesting that the exception (that you obviously see her as) disproves the rule? I think you'll find it doesn't and that the stereotype will continue. Secondly, what difference does the stereotype make to the argument? This is no different in content from anything said by a fat, ugly feminist with a punk hairdo wearing dungarees and Dr. Martins. Do you realise how offensive you are in separating this feminist from others on the strength that you find this one "beautiful", "Intelligent", "articulate" and with a sense of humour? You're saying that all the others - the ones ridiculed by the stereotyping - are inarticulate, unattractive, stupid, and lacking in a sense of humour *purely because of the way they look*! Let me tell you something: I'm not criticising you because I'm a feminist or have sympathy with them or because I'm friends with some. I DETEST feminism; but I also detest the work of idiots who make cretinous comments without knowing it. This is even worse when it's done in the manner of a Stepford wife or a career politician bending over backwards not to say anything offensive while managing to do so magnificently.
Its interesting how speeches like this progressively become about how hard it is in life to be a woman. Ironically, most of the issues are truly about how women oppress other women and not how men oppress women. It is also extremely shortsighted and right-fighting in the fact that she doesn't compare the same statistics to what it is like in similar situations as a man. What happens if a man is raped? Is there support? Often not and generally the public would look at it from the perspective of "why are you complaining, you got free sex". What about the false stigmas that men get sold in our society. People complain about Barbies being unrealistic expectations being set on women, but look at all the "boy" toys which are guys muscled out beyond Arnold Schwarzenegger. Ill agree that women are attacked about weight issues, but men are attacked about penile size. Literally the fundamentals of a healthy marriage/relationship is sex and the main thing that a guy brings to the table is the thing most attacked and leaves many men to fight a quiet battle of emptiness and low self esteem about their own body. This is MUCH harder than "beauty" issues to handle. If a woman says she wants a guy who is taller than her, its a preference, but if a guy says he wants someone with a toned abdomen he is a jerk. Truth be told, as a man I have no idea all the struggles that it takes being a woman, but there are likewise very deep struggles for men as well. As soon as feminists stop making it about themselves and start making it about people in general...then Ill listen.
You bring up a good point, definitely. It's not just women who are hurt by societal stigmas, etc. I think she touches on that, by saying that labels hurt everyone. She doesn't just talk about women here. However, I think this talk is primarily aimed towards women and she's speaking from a women's perspective, which is why she focuses on that.
I hear your words and the loss of identity and demonisation of men is one that I'm familiar with - for example where if a man is seen to lie or cheat society gets on board with the hilarious game of his whole life being destroyed in vengeful violent celebration by the woman he is perceived to have hurt. But it's too easy to generalise and say "feminists are like this", "women are like this", "men are like this", "women have it harder than men" or "men have it harder than women". We use labels to generalise, but we must remember they are only generalisations and are not true descriptions of the individual attitudes that make up the global population. Things are changing. Let's all be a part of that and lead by example, instead of just being passive, putting forward negative generalisations, and waiting for change.
krodista No, many men wouldn't get support after being raped. Many would feel pressured not to even tell anyone what happened to them, because male victims of rape are terribly stigmatized. They would suffer from a culture that says real men don't get raped, and if you get raped, you're not a man anymore. They would find it difficult to get help to cope with what happened, because "men don't cry", and they would feel isolated. And this is actually a very strong argument why men and women should join forces in the battle against gender stereotypes: gender stereotypes affect ALL PEOPLE. Men are as victimized by this kind of thought as women are. Men are, from an early age, taught that the only acceptable behaviour is to be strong, never defeated, never weak, sex machines. They're not allowed to experience their emotions or to seek support. It is not a women's issue, it's a people's issue. The same goes for your second point, men being attacked for their penile length or their height. The points of comparison are different for men and women, but both genders are subjected to a standard of perfection that hurts the individual and that teaches superficiality. It's again about gender stereotypes. That women are supposed to have big breasts, small waists and ample hips, rosy cheeks and long eyelashes, and to stay at home taking care of the children, while men are supposed to be tall and strong with an enormous penis, make a lot of money and never be emotional so they can provide and protect. All you're bringing up are reasons why we need to fight this together. This is not a competition for who's the better sex, it's a battle to get rid of antiquated ideas that hurt us all. That is what feminists are fighting for. I'm sure you can find individuals in both sexes who have trouble relating or empathising with the opposite sex, women who insult men and men who objectify women, women who dismiss all men as "the same" and men who rape, but they are not what we're talking about. Don't get hung up on them. Recognize that this fight truly is for the common good.
+krodista What you just summed up is basically what gender studies is trying to dismantle. The roles that are attributed to men and women not because of their biological sex but because of their socially constructed gender. This is also why for example depression in men is often overlooked, because men exhibit different traits than women but it is more accepted for women to seek mental health and show "vulnerability" so the statistics show that more women are depressed. The truth is that it is just often not detected or men refrain from seeking help because they do not want to be seen as weak. The same logic applies to male rape victims, even more so when they are heterosexual. Better not tell anyone or else they will be stigmatized as weak. But of course there are also examples for the other way round e.g. heart attacks in women show different symptoms, yet it is considered to be a "male condition", hence many women die because their symptoms are misdiagnosed. These are just some examples of how this is a real (maybe even life-threatening) issue. I think this is an issue worth addressing and not making it into a fight of who is oppressing whom. That being said I still think feminism is very important for a lot of women around the world who suffer greatly from societies that deny them any basic rights! Also we should not overlook the sexism that is still going on in our own Western societies (on both sides) that is often overlooked or played down.
This woman was so well spoken and informed. I love how she had to take a deep breath after bringing up victim blaming regarding rape, like the disgusting ideology actually physically wounded her.
+Alpen Jodler Let's try this one more time. Feminism isn't about men and women being "equal" (whatever the hell that means). It's about equal opportunity, about not being pigeonholed or shut out of particular venues whatever your gender or sexual orientation. It's really that simple.
+Melanie Hamilton "It's about equal opportunity" Tell that to firefighters where entry requirements were reduced for women. Or women who demand equal income, while not willing to do equal work. Tell that to men who have have been through divource. Fuck you and your defense of morons.
Gender inequality is real. In grade 8 I finished the entire math textbook by Sept 24. That's in three weeks in case you're weak in math. My teacher put my desk in the hallway and gave me grade 9, then grade 10, 11, 12 and by June I was doing first year university statistics, calculus and advanced geometry. One day in February the principal was walking around the school and saw me in the hallway. He was surprised. He asked what I was doing there. He talked to my teacher, came out of the room, looked at me and put his hand on top of his head and bugged his eyes out. Then left. Had I been a boy, I would be called a genius and been on the news and in the papers! I was female and thus ignored. Ta daaaa.
That's impressive (if you're actually that smart) but there's no need to be so pretentious.... "That's in three weeks in case you're weak at maths." 1) you didn't state the initial date 2) nobody gives a f
As a man, I like this talk. Feminism also liberates men from shaming of us all which is causing us all, in the end, a lack of love and tremendous social problems.
This was one of the fairer talks about feminism I've seen from a woman. I think they are missing the same thing. The foundation of feminism is you have to be a woman, I think her talk could have focused more on the 4th (non-existant) part of the discussion, not the slut, not the spinster, not the perfect, just woman. No woman is just the descriptor of her, it's a lot more than that. It's just the same as I'm not just the descriptor before the "man". Another thing I have yet to see any woman that is feminist bent do is take the philosophy of screw what people say about you, or category they place you in, and go do what you do. I see pretty much all anti-feminists both male and female do. We don't worry of what we're called. If you put emphasis on what you don't like by defending it, you show there is a measure of truth or you wouldn't spend energy on it. That measure of truth may be just perceived, fear of that label, real, partial or a way of playing victim to get sympathy. Ms Mosse came close, but didn't seem to break into I don't give a crap, I'm a chick get over it. Thumbs up for fairness.
I am not a feminist, I am human! Everyone should think about this words. Seperate yourself means to define yourself and to put you in a group. We can all be feminists, but you have to decide. But we all are humans, thats a fact! For that alone we should be treaten evenly.
This comment section is ridiculous. Why people with such low IQ's feel the need to comment on something they quite clearly have no proper understanding of really baffles me. Please go back to opening Fifa packs all day, or maybe just think rationally for a moment.
Bunch of women acting like victims in the comments when it's other women that will tear each other down and talk about each other. Y'all over think how much men care what y'all do.
I like the general idea that this video but, don't agree with everything she says in it. The main reason that men find this video a bit ignorant is becuase it depicks women as the victims. The thing is the world is screw up and is basically a viscous circle. Why do women like to tame the bad boys and isolate the other guy or psychologically attack the others The truth is the frustration is shared by everyone. Some guys will hold it in until they break. The truth is then everyone is shocked when you hear about a rapist or someone shooting up a school or kills themselves. I am sympathetic to the women who are victims becuase they are in just in the wrong situation and most of the time have not reason to go through some of the shit they go through. My message is not that men or women are the sole victims. My message is society is screwed up and we fall into these stupid traps and expectations that the media and societies so call rules puts into play.
Karen Straugnham addressed this woman's observation about men eating first and how it appeared that men are valued more. She cited the harsh realities of the desert and how if a family lost the man, they would surely starve. We judge with Western eyes.
Meeee tooo, I always been a feminist too, because I have the women shell, doesn't mean I am meant to be a certain way. I believe that it's more nurture than nature.
Considering she's talking about equality, maybe it's time we call it that. The words "feminist" and "feminism" do not denote equality between the sexes, but specify a pro female attitude, which seems to tell the listener that women and men are not equal. The label "feminism" seems to me to add weight to the current imbalance, instead of asserting an innate equality between the sexes. You don't have to say you're pro black if you're pro racial equality. If equality is our aim, and not female superiority, I think it makes sense to say we're equalists, or pro gender equality.
this is such a nonsense. These judgments are perpetuated by both sexes, as women are brought to be judged to utterly different standards than men. That's why you get things such as Brock Turner being sentenced to mere 6 months in prison for rape which was witnessed by two people. Btw the judge was a man ;)
"What women don't realize apparently is that the only people judging women for the things described in this video, are other women." Women _and_ social scientists don't 'realize' that, because it's horseshit. Sexism (of all stripes) must be perpetuated by a large portion of the population (usually, but not always, a majority) in order to remain influential. This almost always requires _both_ sexes.
i would never call myself a feminist,im a humanist, i respect people regardless of their gender. if youre a good, well behaved and reasonable human that's enough for me to respect you.
+Martina Rosen sorry, but i take offense to that. i prefer to call myself a humanist and let's leave it that way. additionally i'm not willing to argue with you due to the fact that i had encounters with agressive feminazzi's and it left some disgust towards this movements.
Regarding rape: "...as if any of this (dress code/inebriation/flirting) means that she loses the right to the control of her own body" ...is a truth that some people seem to overlook - even women. I'm grateful for Martha's courage in speaking up. I'm also grateful for all the men out there (like my bf) who support feminist movement - it gives me hope for this world.
I don't like to bring this up, but feminism makes women MORE vulnerable. I once even told my mom that if she were attacked, I'm not sure if I would defend her. She asked why, and i said "you would see that as too male. You would see me as being the wrong one for NOT standing by. That's just who you are, mom"
@@foolishdrunk2181 Your name fits your logic quite perfectly.
@@GreyPunkWolf
Do you have ANYTHING to refute what I said?
.....I didn't think so
@@ms.sherry You absolutely did.
"I don't like to bring this up, but" [proceeds to spit BS nonsense all over] ....... Then just don't ? Cause no one does?
GreyPunkWolf, let me guess your talking about " toxic masculinity " ? The term means many things to different people, the most common meaning I've found is aspects of masculinity that harms both men and the people around them, specifically bottling up their emotions no matter what until it starts negatively affecting their mental health, or using violence to solve all their problems even when it isn't necessary. Protecting others isn't toxic masculinity.
Her presence in this video feels so authentic. I love how peacefully and forcefully she speaks and stands in herself.
I know right, I love her so much^^
Stop fooling yourself
She's talking about women not being equal in Afghanistan, being "sexualized in porn" WHAT>>>??????
+Copper Harris - you mean you're not intelligent enough to understand what she just said... right...
InandaroundTO: In the worldwide web of misogyny, these MRA dudes would rather die than admit that women need a specific kind of voice and activism to counteract millenia of abuse by men, and its name is feminism.
I found myself doing this horrible judging sometimes. You made me realize of something. Thank you.
A lot of women have internalized misogyny. It's a long way of battling
I have suffered a lot from women being misogynistic towards me . many of them they just do the hate and judgement without even realising its misogyny. I got more discriminated against and excluded by women that I was wondering what is the point of equality battles when women are tearing each others down. I hope many women support each others more
@@mariayout9325 Kill haters with kindness! There will always be some people trying to put you down - regardless of gender. Most of us women support each other. I wish you well!
Having opinions is bad!
I used to do that a lot as well. I was very thankful to my friend for opening my eyes, because I used to judge both women and men. I think I just treated these people how the world wanted me to treat them, because our society didn't accept what they represented. I'm very happy that you realised that and that you are being true to yourself. I wish you the best!🙏🍄🌸💗
I was bought up in a gender separate household, mum cook and cleaned, dad did DIY and drove the family car. Never really saw the point of this separation, work is work! I feel I can do anything that needs to be done, and do. I wish my wife and daughters would see things the same way and step out of their perceived traditional feminine roles, occasionally. Anyway, brilliant speaker with a clear message to all. Mr Cave Man, please listen and stop being such a twit! To any women who read this, I'm 60 and totally invisible, I think this silver fox thing is a myth. The media isn't particularly good to men of my age either. Beware of those who push stereo types as the norm.
Take into account interest. Its not that woman can't work on the car. Its that they rather do something else.
@@mrgees100peas not all women are like that. and also not all men want to work in an office. don't interpret the majority's doing as everyones
Would u mind working in mines or going on the frontline in wars while men chill at home? And would u mind abplishing yhe law that forces men to pay alimony and allow men to have children after the divorce?
I love how people like this, despite the media and haters, are able to develop the courage to voice their own opinion.
The media is why she is like this dip chit.
I was called a slut way before I had even kissed somebody. I was around 11 years old and I felt alone and ashamed for weeks. They made me feel it was my fault. They controlled me like this. Through shame. This is how they silenced and isolated me. So that I would not be myself anymore. Because they wanted to stay in control and were afraid of change. Shame on a society that allows 11 year old girls to go through this alone.
poor girl
So sorry. Kisses.
What os ur true identity then? A eoman that lets in 999 men?
I never got why the "alone with cats" was supposed to be so scary, I loove cats and I want a bunch of them...
The idea is that cats are replacements for babies while not needing as much money or time or care, etc, because the woman was not able to find a husband and start a family. Therefore she's "alone" because she couldn't get what everyone else had, and is now trying to compensate and it was considered "pathetic".
Me too!...also, cats are so much better companions than men :)
Compare with, "alone with men" ..... not hard to figure out why cats are often preferred.
its only scary to men, since it means we wont need them or take care of them, so they put it down.
@@mytuube11 BINGO
Perfection is the biggest, most common, most impossible stereotype to achieve.
About one third of respondents reasoned that the victim of rape is responsible in some way for the rape is heartbreaking to say the least. This is not a problem however that applies only to feminists and to those standing against sexual assault.
In psychology they refer to this as the 'just world phenomenon' and it is one of the darker sides of our brains. It is our brains way of protecting ourselves from empathy, from the truth that is just too hard to hear. Hearing about the number of rapes that occur, the number of homeless living on the streets starving, the violence in our society, if we fail to find a way to rationalize these things we would have to face responsibility for them.
Talks like this are a small step to a brightr future where people help each other
Yes, the "just world phenomenon" is so creepy. This flawed logic is also used to justify the disproportionate amount of People of color in prisons. Because of this, someone could come to the conclusion that POC commit more crimes rather than the truth that law enforcement personnel are racist.
m martin The more interesting part is that they don't need to site sources or somehow give them.
But of-course all given statistics are flawless and those who report them in media are always honest and definitely understands them, honest.
But hey as long as you give a good performance nowadays at any TED Talk who cares about how correct the information is or where it's from. And neither about the methodology, rhetoric behind the research and not just the end results in a tear-jerking speech.
+Alex A Oh, and it is men who are raping other men in prison. So it's still your shit to fix. Congrats. Maybe try actually giving a fuck about the victims and doing something about it rather than bringing it up as a silencing tactic.
+Elisif Wander, Yeah, and I bet you're one of those women who is happy to let the man pay for the meal - and in so doing, playing the same game that he's playing - and then think he's wrong when he complains at not getting sex. Women don't like to be 'bought' for sex with gifts and fine treatment (although they'll take them) but they are happy to be prostitutes, porn performers, strippers, lap dancers, topless waitresses... How else do you think men will see you when this is how you behave?
+Elisif Wander, no, he's bringing up these points not as a silencing tactic but to illustrate your hypocracy. The point is that you're ONLY concerned about the rape of women. You don't give a shit for male suffering and do nothing to stop it - not even so little as *speak* against it.
Are you kidding me. I'm eating what I prepared before feeding any man.
Hahahaaa omg
how about a hungry soldier who has to fight off enemy soldiers close to your hometown?
context is important, for u derstanding why this became "a rule" in some countries
@@Foodpermaculture I learned more from your short comment than this entire speech. I felt like the speaker used an out of context and remote example as her diving board for 'feminism' and 'societal change.' I feel people that think like her want to think with their feelings more than understanding the world. But she is good at speaking so she comes off as profound and amazing.
I don't understand why there're so many dislikes
Because it involves feminism and certain people absolutely hate feminists no matter how reasonable they may be.
@@dylanhaugen3739 are you a guy?
@@dylanhaugen3739 people hate feminism?! I don't think it I think only men hate feminism
Kawaii girl, there are some woman who do hate feminism, granted it is mostly men. The woman who do hate feminism tend be extremely old fashioned and very religious. I've seen woman argue woman shouldn't be allowed to vote. It's simultaneously infuriating and kinda sad that these woman have been brainwashed into thinking so little of themselves and other woman.
men are sensitive
"Perfection masquerades as a compliment."
This woman should be the whole world's role model ❤
:)
sure
This was great! I love how intelligent she is. I also love how she brought up the media's view of Jennifer Aniston. I will always see that actress as a really funny, successful, nice and beautiful woman. But it seems like every time I walk through a grocery store, I see magazines with her face on it, and the title has something to do with whether or not she's having a baby, or whether or not she's found the right man. Like... who cares??
Well said.
*****
And just because someone has a different view of the world, that does not make you more intelligent.
If you're rich, powerful, successful, renown for your beauty, have men who'd gladly be with you and who explicitly want a family like you do....Then multiple times you fail and we know its not the guy's fault (they marry the next woman they date after you and settle down with kids) then...it goes to reason that the problem was you. And this is why Jennifer is pitied.
dothedeed If a guy marries the girl after you, it means he made a choice that the woman after you was more suited to him. It doesn't mean that you were wrong as a woman, it means you were wrong for him and, equally, he was wrong for you. It means whoever he settled with better matched his story, which may or may not be a healthy one. If someone doesn't marry you, that does not mean you should be pitied or that there is anything wrong with you. Marriage is not the end game and it is certainly not automatic happiness. Many people marry out of fear and many people stay married out of fear. Many people pretend to the outside world that they are happy in their marriage because they so want to be happy. It's not about being rich, powerful, "successful", renowned for your beauty or having people *think* they'd gladly be with you according to their perception of you, and it is not about getting married and having kids. It is about being true to yourself and working out what is right for you, never mind what other people think.
As a man Jennifer Anniston having a baby is one thing I do not care about. Wonderful but I don't care. I don't know her. She isn't that good looking anyway. I know women better looking than her.
i dream of being such a suave and persuasive speaker like you someday. your speaking style is so clear, moving, and draws the audience in
I think perfection is when you love yourself. When you love yourself with any body type, any facial features, any age. When you know you’re going to love yourself when you’re 60, and say “no matter my age, I still love myself”. When you have a baby, and gain a little bit of weight, and say “no matter my size, I still love myself”. When you have acne, and you’re going through changes, or it’s just part of your DNA, and say “no matter matter the pimples and acne, I look beautiful, I still love myself”. When you understand, and cherish the importance of your happiness and freedom. That’s what I think perfection is.
So what if there were faults in her speech? The purpose of the talk is to spread her ideas to people who are open-minded and are willing to listen. Just because you disagree doesn't mean that the side you take is right, nor does it make you wrong. I can't pretend I understood every single thing she said, there were some in-jokes probably only native speakers would get, but I personally think that she did a wonderful job of telling people about her passion and what she stands up for. It made me think, and captured my attention entirely. I think she did a beautiful job of spreading her message. Loved it.
When i close my eyes her voice sounds like arya stark 😂
she looks sorta like blond arya stark too imo
I see luna lovegood
Perfections is a lie....yes!!!! So glad you found your braveness to share this talk.
Absolutely fantastic. You have articulated here many many things I have been thinking for years.
Fantastic speech, I feel so incredibly frustrated with our sexist society. I get labeled as the "slut" constantly when it couldn't be further from the truth. Then I worry about being known as "hitting the wall" or desperate when I reach 30+, it's ridiculous that women are given a sexual expiry date at the peak of their sexuality. It's usually made into some cougar joke. Yet men date women in their 20's when they're 50. Please don't give me that fertility bs, older men who reproduce can struggle to conceive as well.
Is that why at 67 i get mote likes from women in their 30s than gals my own age?
@@gracian_ if men just want youth and beauty, women just want the cash flow, and LOTS of it please!
Starczar so why label them as gold diggers?
@@gracian_ Please don't speak on behalf of all men. I think you're a dying breed, my friend. That toxic energy is on its way out.
@@prittyugly86 what an embarrassing perspective you hold. Toxic.
I feel like these issues affect the black/African American community to a tenfold due to the huge influence of Christianity. I'm 20 now and I've already told my family that I don't plan on having children or getting married, and because of that they think that something is wrong with me.
chilewith carnage
No offence but you're 20. You're life is going to change immensely in the next 5 years. Trust me
-25 yr old
+chilewith carnage (PrincessInuyasha890) Wanting to have kids is human nature. It''s just plain nature as a matter of fact. Even animals are the same way. Not wanting to have kids renders you "abnormal" by default.
Accept who you are instead of instead of trying to find fault in religion or others for seeing you as you are.
salserokorsou no
+lexdiamondz1991 how can you be 25 when you're born in 1991, at most your 24
I wasn't born in 1991, it was the year I immigrated to my country
I like the fact that she is not a feminazi and that she doesn't concider men to be only the bad guys.
The silence after her initial story and her response speaks volumes.
I cried. Every girl, woman, boy, man needs to watch this and really hear it.
Wow! One of the most eloquent talks I've heard from a younger TED Speaker.
It's discouraging to see comments like the ones written below that discourage feminists or feminism. Yes we are concerned about humanism and equality, but we are talking about a specific demographic that receives bombarding messages on perfection, labelling, and presentation. Most of these comments I see below are comments from men. All women are asking is for men to sympathize and recognize the social imbalance. It can't be hard to envision the most important woman in your life (your wife, mother, sister, best friend) going through something like this, to be constricted and blamed for everything wrong in her life. Do you want her to take the blame if someone rapes her or if a man hires her soley based on her appearance (hence check out her tits)? That woman is your life is more than that! She should be celebrated. Feminism is about changing social attitude, not hating men or blaming them. It's simply changing an ideology.
+kimboga90 i agree with you to an extent. i'm not against feminism, but i'm not a fan of any "ism" in general, because most of the people who identify with preconceived ideologies take those as dogmas and do not put what they learned into prespective. let's talk about feminism: from a purely conceptual standpoint, as you rightly stated, "is about changing social attitude, not hating men", but if you fill a room with only women who adhere with the feminist movement, you bet the discussion will ultimately end down the path of man hate and the blame game. sure it is not the ideology's fault, but how different minds with different cultural levels respond to the same input needs to be taken into consideration. let's make a bit of "hidden" history now: at the very beginning of the feminist movement CIA manifested a certain interest in it, not in the ideology per se, but in the predicted outcome. the CIA predicted that the feminist movement would ultimately generate a demographic of women who tent to see the concept of "family" as an obstacle to their freedom, creating therefore a tear in the natural relationship between the opposite sexes; in the eyes of the CIA feminist women who had kids were more willing to go back to their jobs sooner and leave their kids to afternoon school programs, creating by default a generations of homogenous, more esaily controllable minds. again, it's not the ideology to blame. now look at young ones, how they respond to sex, how they interact with each other. do you think feminism could be of any help about this issue? about rights: it doesn't take a social movement to asses the gravity of sexual assault, or the job opportunity imbalance (i want to share a point with you: here in Italy young women have more chances to get a better starting job than men), but it takes a movement like feminism to call verbal sexual assault a man saying to a girl "you look hot today", it might be rude, but to call it "assault" is beyond stretch. see, this discussion could go on forever, and this happends because the two or more sexes see the opinin of it's opposite as a personal attack, and that's the problem with "isms": anyone see it in a different way and opinions can be mistaken for attacks. so, here's my 2 rpoposals: 1- let's bury our weapons, look into each other and learn to respect and appreciate and, most of all, make a huge self criticism beyond local/political/religious culture 2- let's learn from nature: whether we like it or not, men and women are not born phisiologically equal, i'm not saying one is better that the other, i'm just suggesting we all should learn to live with our differences. together as humans we can go beyond our limitations, if mwn and women keep on bickering we're doomed.
+Rick Jones did you not come into the world from a vagina?
+Squadsenser I would suggest 'Memenism'! Just a thought Squadsenser. However you are correct Feminism is outdated, overused and frankly it brings to mind in many, lesbianism.
+kimboga90, All men are asking for is for women to recognise that the blame for all the messages about perfection that bombard them should fall on the WOMEN who do the modelling and the WOMEN who buy the very magazines that contain these 'terrible' ads.
The 'check out her tits' ideology exists because women love it! They send pictures in of themselves topless to Nuts magazine's 'Rate my Breasts' - for free! Countless women enter beauty contests despite that feminists have begged and pestered them not to, and model. Indeed, the 'pornified' society we live in today wouldn't exist if WOMEN could only keep their clothes on.
Women cannot claim to be responsible enough to have the vote, and claim to be independent, yet also claim to be incapable of refusing photographers and pornographers. Women want their cake and want to be able to eat it. They want to be free to prostitute themselves if they wish yet not take the blame for the society they get when they do this.
what space are you from?
Awsome ted talk. You're a true asset to yet female race. Keep being you. Bless you!
the female race, lol
I admire how well spoken and confident she is, i find her inspiring :) Good speech Martha :))
Really appreciate this Ted Talk with Martha Mosse! The fighting for equality is not over until everyone everywhere has equal rights and opportunities. That's what feminism really is all about. It's not about putting men down like some insecure men try to spindoctor it.
I really loved her message! This needs to be taught to young adults over the world💗💗💗
This is fantastic. This video should go viral.
Women who are still single like me should look at it that way : no risk of being cheated upon and getting diseases, no risk of being overwhelmed with taking care of a house and children and ensuring that everyone is happy, no risk of finding oneself divorced after years of battle and mean acts and having to provide and take care of children without help, support or money and the risk of having no retirement or a very small pension because you started so late ... not such a bad prospect in my view
Reading the comments might just drive me to drink an entire bottle of vodka by myself. Instead of arguing we should all just not be assholes to each other and maybe then most disputes would be solved. Seems like that might never happen, but I can dream ridiculous thoughts if I so please :')
The problem with assholes is that they don't know that they are assholes. They always think they are intelligent (because they are too stupid to know the truth) so they try to educate others - spewing shit everywhere they go.
aquamarch1495 hey you got any vodka left? ;-)
You can say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one
I hope one day you'll join us...
this might seem ridiculous
but it's TRUE when you think about it
+Stephanie Shine it's NOT ridiculous. It's only ridiculous to anyone who believes that this isn't a reality.
Luna Lovegood grew up... 😁 Awesome talk, very inspiring 🙈
If we are all feminist because we all believe in equality of gender, then we are all masculists too cause we all beleive in equality of gender.
It was a beautiful talk btw :)
Yep. We should all be fighting/advocating for each other. The media affects everyone. ❤️
Great job. Way to approach it in a none derogatory way. More civil an equal way.
I was actually disappointed when this ended. So painfully accurate.
Thank you Martha. I appreciate your courage and work.
Omg I love this so rare that beauty standards are recognised as being something that effects men and women, also as an infertile 33 year old I feel a massive social pressure to have kids and regularly get treated as a failure in life by both men and women, despite being highly successful in other areas of my life.
It's so encouraging to think that, while gender inequality is still an issue, it is being discussed intelligently and that more kids (girls AND boys) are refusing to play the game of gender and are just doing what they enjoy and being who they are regardless of stereotypes. The conversation is still full of dispute and not a small amount of anger and hatred, but the conversation IS happening, and over time, the genders will become more and more equal. Equality is a process, after all. So whether you call yourself feminist, humanist, or whatever, I'm glad we're all in the conversation together.
How amazing to see a young woman who 'gets' what it means to be a feminist. Please hear her.
To differ from all of the negative comments, I thought this was lovely, and it will definitely help with my persuasive essay on feminism for English. (:
Came to watch it again. You're amazing
Beautiful and thought provoking speech
I really liked this. There are many different ways to view inequality. I know your views are far more complex than a 10 minute speech (unlike some of the people who are negative here) but the points you make well thought out and valid. Well done and keep it up - I'm a feminist too even though I am a bloke :-)
i' mm teared up. How each and everyone in this revolution thinks the same.i'm 2 mins 13 secs in and
i love this already
She is great! Most people do not understand what Feminism actually is. Feminism is the belief in political, economic and social equalitiy of the sexes. (NOTE: equality of the SEXES, which includes MEN, because they are one of the sexes) Feminism IS NOT a belief that women are somehow 'better'.
jchahine We need more actually practice of feminism, instead of people just theorizing about it or making their own claims about what they think it is, when they do not know what it is.
Faerie Tale Feminism, much like religion, is the repetition of a series of dogmas (as you've just demonstrated)
RealityCheck6T9 I have not stated any dogmas.
Faerie Tale I find it dogmatic to act as if the dictionary definition is inviolable and anyone who disagrees simply doesn't understand. I've never known any other movement to quote its own dictionary definition with such incredible frequency, or even at all. Perhaps because they would know it's a fairly flimsy defence in the face of criticism.
RealityCheck6T9 What exactly is the 'dictionary definition', according to you? What is your criticism? What, really, is your point?
How is all this aggression and anger working for men seems to me that it is the cause of all that is wrong in the world. Thankfully there are some men who will act like real men and speak up and should and know that we should not consider either gender as weak or strong but has human beings. We need more men to step up and do the right thing.
+Micke B thats the feminist movement take notice of the "We need more men to step up" thing it's what they always say infact it's like being married because when they got a step stool right there they scream equality at you until you get the dish off the top shelf for them because it's too demanding they use the step stool.........feminists always always always scream that men need to change and men need to make women's rights equal and blah blah blah... I'm all about equality and fairness because equality does not mean fair. Yet I am about eqaulity for everyone not just one race or one gender maybe if all these people joined hands and fought with each other for equailty we would have it by now. They chose instead to do it themselves but making everyone do the work for them.
+mctm1221 Sometimes it also works for them, must consider that too. The very freedoms ur enjoying very well may have been built out of male anger.
+mctm1221 Real men don't need to do _anything,_ let alone "step up." Real men don't need to just do what others tell them. These idiotic feminist videos are simply bitching and complaining that men are always at fault for _every_ thing wrong in the world, and that they 'need' to do something for women. The hilarious part is: they're pretending to be 'strong, independent women, that 'don't need no man to help them,' yet continuously are demanding for men to *help them. They're asking the 'patriarchy' to help them in destroying the patriarchy.*
No contradiction to see here, folks. Move along.
How can anyone take feminist women seriously where practically every utterance is emotionalism and lacks actual facts, is not logical, or fails to provide any actual arguments? Maybe if they could stop emoting, and do more actual thinking, make rational arguments, and present facts, their opinion could be considered. But alas, as they _all_ do they fail to actually _have_ any actual discourse, but instead resort to emotional pleas, shaming tactics, and double standards. Plus they can't even think clearly.
Right, because women never *ever* curse, swear, or ever get emotional. They also never disagree with men. Right. Sure.
"It's not emotion or illogical to acknowledge the suffering of women around the world and work to change it. " Yeah, right, because only women worldwide, are the ones who ever suffer. Men, children, or animals, worldwide are just perfectly fine and dandy. Right.
That's the first TEDx speech that actually made sense to the topic, kept me interested, didn't confuse at any point, and actually taught something. This woman sounds very intelligent.
Fantastically delivered, well-thought out talk. I love it.
Lovely talk! I am a woman and I used to label people, myself included. I feel happier, more content and more accepting with myself and others when I realized that. So now I just be me and try to accept people for what they are, not just women, but everyone.
Right the second she said "I'm a feminist" I knew the lil mad boys will start attacking, dammm! Now let the hate roll in lol
+Snake1n
Actually mad boys and boys of reason and logic.
For example, ain't funny she start saying that labels are dangerous and that's why she label herself as a feminist? I'm scratching my head on that one alone trying to find any logic...
+Snake1n
stop spreading hate and provocation, start a discussion or a reasonable argument or stay silent.
+TheBaioken he made sense....are you thinking with your emotions ?
did he put you down and hurt your feelings ??
Greg Glavinovich
Isn't it remarkable how threatened and defensive ostensibly adult males can get over one word? I think she is a wonderful role model for the ideals of modern feminism. I have the impression that you are, too.
The hate's all rolling out from her actually buddy. Anyone commenting negatively is simply a voice of reason trying to be heard in an age of deceit.
In the opening Dubai story the speaker overlooks that in a traditional household the women also get to talk privately together. It is built right into the system.
I love being a spinster : we avoid plenty of dangers and plenty of problems ..
Wow. She is an excellent speaker - delivery, audience engagement. And she's young! Good on her! She seems like a lovely person.
Awesome Ted talk!! More power to all women and the cause of equality.
aLSO TRANSSEXUALS DON`T MEAN SHIT TO fEMINAZIS LIKE YOU!
great talk. I am very happy to know that there are plenty of women and men who are not willing to overlook inequality as just a fact of life, as some women do or overlook it on the basis that it 'doesn't exist' because they haven't experienced it in their privileged lives, as some men do. We just have to have the courage to go our own way and make our voices be heard, no matter how unsettling some people may find it.
I thought it, and you expressed it. thank you.
Nah yah roll
From the heart and well presented, great job to Martha
I am a spinster ... and i was even told i was barren .. i was also told that since i had no children, my life was easy and without problems ... and that i was selfish ..
Loved this talk! Live that the feminist movement is improving the world!
Back in the 80s, when I first considered myself a feminist, there was a music video that had a girl band dancing in lingerie. I found it disgusting that these women felt the need to ooz sex to sell their otherwise good music. Of course, I had no way of knowing if these ladies readily agreed to it or if they were pressured. Last month I mentioned this video to a feminist and she defended them saying they were right to feel comfortable with their own bodies. This confused me a great deal. In the 80s, we would have immediately said they were exploited but today women shed most of their clothes to sell records and this is ok. Maybe I am old fashioned, but my greatest admiration is for a strong woman who commands attention, not to her body but to her mind, her achievements, her character, integrity and her sense of justice.
I only hope to say things as perfectly as you just did when I'm being judged for not being submissive to others' expectations.
I kind of hate how this is 'covent garden women'. Yes, there need to be (female) speakers talking about women and/or equality, but can't these women speak at the 'normal' TEDx?
There are.
This is very good, I really wished I had seen this video whilst studying feminism in sociology last year, it would have made the class and work more enjoyable and engaging.
I think the problem today is there are so many definitions of the word "feminist" . I used to consider myself one, but the title has been so distorted that I no longer identify. A movement can not being taken seriously when those backing it are all on a different page.
There are many such examples in our world of one word not being big enough to describe a variety of different viewpoints. Personally I think it might be time to shift from "feminism" to "equalism" so that the motives and beliefs behind the word are transparent, rather than misleading.
Geo Synchronous Hey, I agree. I know that may seem strange, but I see this whole movement as the break down of the family. I would love to see mother's back in the homes raising the kids, taking care of the home and family while a father and husband worked and supported the household. In fact if I gave my true views on the "women's rights" issue I would likely be getting some pretty nasty replies to my comments. So, that being said, I guess we agree.
Geo Synchronous Problems began because women wanted more. They felt unappreciated and dissatisfied. They wanted more material items as well. Work outside the home was the answer. That led to higher education, a raising economy, competition for jobs and a family break down. Men didn't see this coming and were happy with the added income at the time, but there is always a downside. Presently, it is almost a necessity for both spouses to be employed. This eliminates the title "Breadwinner" and role seems to go to the one who yells the loudest. Also, we have to look at how son's and daughter's are being raised. That is another issue altogether. It ties in greatly, but smh way too intense for now.
Geo Synchronous The media causes a lot of damage. It creates the belief we are missing out on something. We are "owed" something we are not. Their job is to sell us their crap and ideas, so that they can get rich while society suffers from the brain washing effects. As long as the big corporations are making money, they don't care if families are falling apart, young blacks are killing each other and/or rioting in the streets, Police Officers are being hunted down, or the working man can't make ends meet.
We have "rights" and should be grateful, but still they want more "rights"!!! Women's, Gays, Blacks, even Animals rights !!! The Liberals never stop protesting , causing some group of people to feel they are missing out on a privilege being denied them in some way , or form. Then comes your hate, violence, gangs and murders. Of course who's fault is it? Not the one's who started it, oh no! It's God's fault! Let's blame Religion! Sorry, but the whole thing makes me ill. I don't see things getting any better either.
judy Osborne One thing I'd like to point is how some women that have experienced sexism and have suffered from it (and while they're sick of this sexist culture & want to change it) they are also afraid to call themselves feminists, cause misogynists once again spew hate over a group that supports equality of the genders and make it into women-jokes material (as always). I will never be ashamed to say I support feminism, nor any woman should. Cause that's what all these fucked up sexists want, to give feminism a bad reputation, to call it names, to mock it, to destroy it.. and all that in fear that women(and many men) will stand up against this over misogynistic society (that has lasted for millenniums) and will actually change things for the better, not letting girls being shamed for what they look like or victim-blamed, not letting good boys getting beaten by "manly" bullies or called manginas or fags and actually punishing those who are TRULY harming society. This whole gender gap is ridiculous, LGBT people suffer very much from this society too.
Mutual respect and consenting relationships need to be taught to young children, NOT that ridiculous non-sense gender stereotypes that girls must be the pretty artificial girly dolls and boys must be sexually abusive and dominating over them. Feminism is now more needed than ever. There are countless issues about sexism and I'm not gonna give up. No fucker with his fragile male ego can shame me with his "feminazi" bullshit. You can try all you want misogynistic scumbags, but in the end people are getting more and more aware of situations like this, victims are (finally) speaking up about their stories and those who physically/sexually/psychologically abuse others will finally be judged and pay for their hateful crimes. That includes your shitty medieval religions.
So Judy... if you truly believe in gender equality then you support the ideals of feminism. There was some times that I was ashamed to say I'm a feminist but that's what sexists want. They want women to stop identifying as feminists making it seem like it's an "inferior" movement made by "oversensitive bitches". Well, hell no. As I said you don't need validation from THAT kind of people. You have other people that truly care about gender-based issues and will never shame you. People that do not feed on your apathy and self-consciousness. As I said more women (and men) are getting aware of these problems, feminist community is getting larger across the world and feminism is more needed now than ever. Or else the women who gave us the freedoms we have today fought for nothing.
Terrific! I'm very glad to be introduced to Martha and her work. Her presentation was intelligent, concise, articulate, well reasoned, and a pleasure to watch. I think that she has performed a great service to the term "Feminist" and the practice of "Feminism" through her articulation of why these matter, indeed why they are crucial. She also dispels the stereotypical view of feminists as being unfortunate looking fanatical lesbians in "comfortable shoes." Instead, she serves as living proof that a beautiful, intelligent, articulate, woman with a sense of humor can also serve as a standard bearer and role model for modern feminists. I also believe that she has the potential to positively influence a great many people's attitudes towards feminism that more traditional feminists ever could.
I look forward to seeing more of her work in the future and wish her continued success with her performance art, her feminist scholarship, and her efforts to educate the public. Brava!
+motorcop505, Blimey, you've got rose-tinted specs on, haven't you? And talk about bias! Her work? Do you mean the stuff she parroted that was thought up decades ago by other feminists? Is that what you think is *her* work? Or did you notice something original? If you did, I'd be grateful if you could let me know what it is.
Then what about this stereotype of feminists that you claim she's dispelled? Firstly, are you suggesting that the exception (that you obviously see her as) disproves the rule? I think you'll find it doesn't and that the stereotype will continue. Secondly, what difference does the stereotype make to the argument? This is no different in content from anything said by a fat, ugly feminist with a punk hairdo wearing dungarees and Dr. Martins. Do you realise how offensive you are in separating this feminist from others on the strength that you find this one "beautiful", "Intelligent", "articulate" and with a sense of humour? You're saying that all the others - the ones ridiculed by the stereotyping - are inarticulate, unattractive, stupid, and lacking in a sense of humour *purely because of the way they look*!
Let me tell you something: I'm not criticising you because I'm a feminist or have sympathy with them or because I'm friends with some. I DETEST feminism; but I also detest the work of idiots who make cretinous comments without knowing it. This is even worse when it's done in the manner of a Stepford wife or a career politician bending over backwards not to say anything offensive while managing to do so magnificently.
Its interesting how speeches like this progressively become about how hard it is in life to be a woman. Ironically, most of the issues are truly about how women oppress other women and not how men oppress women.
It is also extremely shortsighted and right-fighting in the fact that she doesn't compare the same statistics to what it is like in similar situations as a man. What happens if a man is raped? Is there support? Often not and generally the public would look at it from the perspective of "why are you complaining, you got free sex". What about the false stigmas that men get sold in our society. People complain about Barbies being unrealistic expectations being set on women, but look at all the "boy" toys which are guys muscled out beyond Arnold Schwarzenegger. Ill agree that women are attacked about weight issues, but men are attacked about penile size. Literally the fundamentals of a healthy marriage/relationship is sex and the main thing that a guy brings to the table is the thing most attacked and leaves many men to fight a quiet battle of emptiness and low self esteem about their own body. This is MUCH harder than "beauty" issues to handle. If a woman says she wants a guy who is taller than her, its a preference, but if a guy says he wants someone with a toned abdomen he is a jerk.
Truth be told, as a man I have no idea all the struggles that it takes being a woman, but there are likewise very deep struggles for men as well. As soon as feminists stop making it about themselves and start making it about people in general...then Ill listen.
You bring up a good point, definitely. It's not just women who are hurt by societal stigmas, etc. I think she touches on that, by saying that labels hurt everyone. She doesn't just talk about women here. However, I think this talk is primarily aimed towards women and she's speaking from a women's perspective, which is why she focuses on that.
Annie R I see that, but to find real change, we must look outside of ourselves.
I hear your words and the loss of identity and demonisation of men is one that I'm familiar with - for example where if a man is seen to lie or cheat society gets on board with the hilarious game of his whole life being destroyed in vengeful violent celebration by the woman he is perceived to have hurt. But it's too easy to generalise and say "feminists are like this", "women are like this", "men are like this", "women have it harder than men" or "men have it harder than women". We use labels to generalise, but we must remember they are only generalisations and are not true descriptions of the individual attitudes that make up the global population. Things are changing. Let's all be a part of that and lead by example, instead of just being passive, putting forward negative generalisations, and waiting for change.
krodista No, many men wouldn't get support after being raped. Many would feel pressured not to even tell anyone what happened to them, because male victims of rape are terribly stigmatized. They would suffer from a culture that says real men don't get raped, and if you get raped, you're not a man anymore. They would find it difficult to get help to cope with what happened, because "men don't cry", and they would feel isolated.
And this is actually a very strong argument why men and women should join forces in the battle against gender stereotypes: gender stereotypes affect ALL PEOPLE. Men are as victimized by this kind of thought as women are. Men are, from an early age, taught that the only acceptable behaviour is to be strong, never defeated, never weak, sex machines. They're not allowed to experience their emotions or to seek support. It is not a women's issue, it's a people's issue.
The same goes for your second point, men being attacked for their penile length or their height. The points of comparison are different for men and women, but both genders are subjected to a standard of perfection that hurts the individual and that teaches superficiality. It's again about gender stereotypes. That women are supposed to have big breasts, small waists and ample hips, rosy cheeks and long eyelashes, and to stay at home taking care of the children, while men are supposed to be tall and strong with an enormous penis, make a lot of money and never be emotional so they can provide and protect.
All you're bringing up are reasons why we need to fight this together. This is not a competition for who's the better sex, it's a battle to get rid of antiquated ideas that hurt us all. That is what feminists are fighting for. I'm sure you can find individuals in both sexes who have trouble relating or empathising with the opposite sex, women who insult men and men who objectify women, women who dismiss all men as "the same" and men who rape, but they are not what we're talking about. Don't get hung up on them. Recognize that this fight truly is for the common good.
+krodista What you just summed up is basically what gender studies is trying to dismantle. The roles that are attributed to men and women not because of their biological sex but because of their socially constructed gender. This is also why for example depression in men is often overlooked, because men exhibit different traits than women but it is more accepted for women to seek mental health and show "vulnerability" so the statistics show that more women are depressed. The truth is that it is just often not detected or men refrain from seeking help because they do not want to be seen as weak. The same logic applies to male rape victims, even more so when they are heterosexual. Better not tell anyone or else they will be stigmatized as weak. But of course there are also examples for the other way round e.g. heart attacks in women show different symptoms, yet it is considered to be a "male condition", hence many women die because their symptoms are misdiagnosed.
These are just some examples of how this is a real (maybe even life-threatening) issue. I think this is an issue worth addressing and not making it into a fight of who is oppressing whom.
That being said I still think feminism is very important for a lot of women around the world who suffer greatly from societies that deny them any basic rights! Also we should not overlook the sexism that is still going on in our own Western societies (on both sides) that is often overlooked or played down.
From Argentina thank you Martha Mosse for this great talk.
The Casanova, the eternal bachelor and God's gift to women
You just said my name in 3 forms
@@particleartsstudios299 nO
This woman was so well spoken and informed. I love how she had to take a deep breath after bringing up victim blaming regarding rape, like the disgusting ideology actually physically wounded her.
I wanna be able to tell a story like her. She'd be a great writer. Unless she had a writer for that speech. Either case, bravo to whoever wrote it
Straightforward and honest. I really liked this talk.
Men and women are not equal.........Just different......We need to celebrate that
+Alpen Jodler Let's try this one more time. Feminism isn't about men and women being "equal" (whatever the hell that means). It's about equal opportunity, about not being pigeonholed or shut out of particular venues whatever your gender or sexual orientation. It's really that simple.
+Theresa S well said, glad to see common sense is still in vogue...
+Melanie Hamilton
"It's about equal opportunity"
Tell that to firefighters where entry requirements were reduced for women. Or women who demand equal income, while not willing to do equal work. Tell that to men who have have been through divource. Fuck you and your defense of morons.
I’m a spinster by choice. Being married does not equal happiness. I realised that after being in a marriage for 20 years.
Gender inequality is real. In grade 8 I finished the entire math textbook by Sept 24. That's in three weeks in case you're weak in math. My teacher put my desk in the hallway and gave me grade 9, then grade 10, 11, 12 and by June I was doing first year university statistics, calculus and advanced geometry. One day in February the principal was walking around the school and saw me in the hallway. He was surprised. He asked what I was doing there. He talked to my teacher, came out of the room, looked at me and put his hand on top of his head and bugged his eyes out. Then left. Had I been a boy, I would be called a genius and been on the news and in the papers! I was female and thus ignored. Ta daaaa.
That's impressive (if you're actually that smart) but there's no need to be so pretentious.... "That's in three weeks in case you're weak at maths."
1) you didn't state the initial date
2) nobody gives a f
As a man, I like this talk. Feminism also liberates men from shaming of us all which is causing us all, in the end, a lack of love and tremendous social problems.
This comment section is a bit frustrating to read... Oh boy...
I think the reason we stereotype or judge is because of an innate fear of the unknown...something undefinable, without boundaries/reason scares us....
This was one of the fairer talks about feminism I've seen from a woman. I think they are missing the same thing. The foundation of feminism is you have to be a woman, I think her talk could have focused more on the 4th (non-existant) part of the discussion, not the slut, not the spinster, not the perfect, just woman. No woman is just the descriptor of her, it's a lot more than that. It's just the same as I'm not just the descriptor before the "man".
Another thing I have yet to see any woman that is feminist bent do is take the philosophy of screw what people say about you, or category they place you in, and go do what you do. I see pretty much all anti-feminists both male and female do. We don't worry of what we're called. If you put emphasis on what you don't like by defending it, you show there is a measure of truth or you wouldn't spend energy on it. That measure of truth may be just perceived, fear of that label, real, partial or a way of playing victim to get sympathy. Ms Mosse came close, but didn't seem to break into I don't give a crap, I'm a chick get over it.
Thumbs up for fairness.
I am not a feminist, I am human! Everyone should think about this words. Seperate yourself means to define yourself and to put you in a group. We can all be feminists, but you have to decide. But we all are humans, thats a fact! For that alone we should be treaten evenly.
This comment section is ridiculous. Why people with such low IQ's feel the need to comment on something they quite clearly have no proper understanding of really baffles me. Please go back to opening Fifa packs all day, or maybe just think rationally for a moment.
Haha finally I hear the voice of reason. So many damn idiots in this comments' section.
Nice use of shaming language but it's not going to work
hahahhahaha lol
Ad hominem are not valid. But I doubt you know that.
@Souvik Dey at least you're proving the point
incredible speech, very thought provoking and intelligent.
Bunch of women acting like victims in the comments when it's other women that will tear each other down and talk about each other. Y'all over think how much men care what y'all do.
Loved her talk.
I like the general idea that this video but, don't agree with everything she says in it.
The main reason that men find this video a bit ignorant is becuase it depicks women as the victims.
The thing is the world is screw up and is basically a viscous circle.
Why do women like to tame the bad boys and isolate the other guy or psychologically attack the others
The truth is the frustration is shared by everyone.
Some guys will hold it in until they break.
The truth is then everyone is shocked when you hear about a rapist or someone shooting up a school or kills themselves.
I am sympathetic to the women who are victims becuase they are in just in the wrong situation and most of the time
have not reason to go through some of the shit they go through.
My message is not that men or women are the sole victims. My message is society is screwed up and we
fall into these stupid traps and expectations that the media and societies so call rules puts into play.
What a great, thought-provoking speech, well done!!!!!
Thank you so much for this
Karen Straugnham addressed this woman's observation about men eating first and how it appeared that men are valued more. She cited the harsh realities of the desert and how if a family lost the man, they would surely starve. We judge with Western eyes.
Loved it!!
Fantastic and relevant talk! ❤️
Meeee tooo, I always been a feminist too, because I have the women shell, doesn't mean I am meant to be a certain way. I believe that it's more nurture than nature.
The Economics of Sex
Considering she's talking about equality, maybe it's time we call it that. The words "feminist" and "feminism" do not denote equality between the sexes, but specify a pro female attitude, which seems to tell the listener that women and men are not equal. The label "feminism" seems to me to add weight to the current imbalance, instead of asserting an innate equality between the sexes. You don't have to say you're pro black if you're pro racial equality. If equality is our aim, and not female superiority, I think it makes sense to say we're equalists, or pro gender equality.
What women don't realize apparently is that the only people judging women for the things described in this video, are other women.
patriarchy. that is all
+chantal oweissi No it is not until you can give some evidence you are wrong on that assumption.
I disagree. while I have seen other women be very supportive of each other, men are downright hateful.
this is such a nonsense. These judgments are perpetuated by both sexes, as women are brought to be judged to utterly different standards than men. That's why you get things such as Brock Turner being sentenced to mere 6 months in prison for rape which was witnessed by two people. Btw the judge was a man ;)
"What women don't realize apparently is that the only people judging women for the things described in this video, are other women."
Women _and_ social scientists don't 'realize' that, because it's horseshit. Sexism (of all stripes) must be perpetuated by a large portion of the population (usually, but not always, a majority) in order to remain influential. This almost always requires _both_ sexes.
i would never call myself a feminist,im a humanist, i respect people regardless of their gender. if youre a good, well behaved and reasonable human that's enough for me to respect you.
+Martina Rosen sorry, but i take offense to that. i prefer to call myself a humanist and let's leave it that way. additionally i'm not willing to argue with you due to the fact that i had encounters with agressive feminazzi's and it left some disgust towards this movements.
@@ellegaunt lol. No it isn’t everyone knows feminists are nuts
Very inspiring speech!
Wonderful talk and vision.