Deconstructing Led Zeppelin - Ramble On (Isolated Tracks)
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- Led Zeppelin II
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00:05 Drums
04:54 Bass
09:35 Acoustic Guitar
14:41 Electric Guitar and Backing Vocals
19:22 Lead Vocals
23:51 Thanks!!!
Personnel
Drums (1969 Ludwig Classic Maple) and Percussion: John Bonham
Bass (1962 Fender Jazz Bass): John Paul Jones
Acoustic Guitar (1969 Vox Country and Western V238 Acoustic): Jimmy Page
Electric Guitar (1959 Gibson Les Paul): Jimmy Page
Lead and Backing Vocals: Robert Plant
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Led Zeppelin II
00:00 Patreon!!!
00:05 Drums
04:54 Bass
09:35 Acoustic Guitar
14:41 Electric Guitar and Backing Vocals
19:22 Lead Vocals
23:51 Thanks!!!
Personnel
Drums (1969 Ludwig Classic Maple) and Percussion: John Bonham
Bass (1962 Fender Jazz Bass): John Paul Jones
Acoustic Guitar (1969 Vox Country and Western V238 Acoustic): Jimmy Page
Electric Guitar (1959 Gibson Les Paul): Jimmy Page
Lead and Backing Vocals: Robert Plant
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download link pls
The bass line is going insane at the end!
Oh yes. I love the bass line in this song.
If you don't believe this is the most perfect rock song ever recorded, you just haven't listened to it's parts individually like this. A lot of us got there listening to it 50 years ago, trying desperately to take it apart in our heads and marveling at how each of the masterful elements were intertwined in such a complementary way but if you never "did that", then listening to this and the listening to the original song again should leave your mouth agape. Listen to the complexity and uniqueness of the choices made by each of the members and think about the genius and creativity behind them all doing that and Page bringing it all together on the board.
It’s not lmao
Very well said. Some folk will never get it....and them dummy's don't even have any talent to play an instrument but they sure judge it like they're God.....fuck em anyhow. This is the shit.
you can just like a song dude lol
My favorite song of any type of music and any generation.
@@cade9173 WTF, its not WHAT exactly ?
There’s a lot more variation in Jimmy’s acoustic strumming patterns than I had thought until I heard this. He really was a great rhythm player also. Great stuff!
REALLY hard to match his sound. Wish there was a video of him making the recording.
This is outstanding for musicians' who want to learn this classic song.
after listening this studio works---people SHOULD- understand why LED ZEPPELIN ' S four musicians and singer where THE BEST togheter ! Best of all times ! Posting this is---- HAPPYNESS for LED ZEP FANS ---- in the entire world. Thank you AGAIN for posting !
Zeppelin occupies a temple on top of a great mountain, where only the truly blessed and most celebrated virtuosos can begin to climb, and even 99% of them will stop at the parking lot, having achieved complacency. Listening to recordings like these are like standing at the bottom of that mountain, staring straight up into the clouds. I've been aware of this bootleg for a while, but I come back to it every now and then and it never ceases to astound me. The difficulty in not only the performance, but also the intellectual resources required to deploy improvisation to this level of perfection is nothing less than insanity...the achievement of possessed men on fire.
My dads favorite Zeppelin song, a great one!
The Page photo (with the Vox Country and Western V238 Acoustic) is from Olympic Studios in April 1969 when he recorded "La La". Ramble On was recorded in the United States.
That’s correct except it wasn’t a Vox Country & Western V238…it was an E-Ros Dakota 606, likely rented or borrowed for that very first session for the ‘Led Zeppelin II’ album on April 14, 1969.
@@AllenGarberGuitarFundoubt it was rented or borrowed as he is seen using it with the group in an early 1969 photo in someone’s house.
Everytime you release a video, it feels like you posted it just for my liking. You have the best channel! Its like my second Spotify hahaha
Thanks!
Thanks for posting !! Jones's talent a is Best , once again !!!!
of all the great Zep songs, i think i would pick this as my all time favorite. Just the light and shade, the skill of all 4 members are fully on display. JPG's bass is just outstanding in particular.
thanks for doing this, it makes me appreciate the song even more.
Thank you for this. Plant’s vocals are so haunting and mystical. He didn’t even have to overdub the main vocal, his voice was like a hurricane on its own.
Thank you for this. it takes all four to make this song amazing!
That inspired bassline is the best part of this song.
Best bass line and tone.
Bonham was hitting his legs with the sticks , as documented in " A Thunder Of Drums "
the butt end of stick on a guitar case
Such a great tune!
There are two electric guitar parts missing: the ones at the end of the first and last verses, and the harmony accompaniment in the solo.
Yeah I was looking forward to those parts !
Great work! I didn't know Jimmy Page used a Vox acoustic!
He didn’t.
Yes he did. @@AllenGarberGuitarFun
@@AttiMatterThat’s a common misconception. The make and model of the guitar that Page actually used on the acoustic tracks for ‘Led Zeppelin II’ was the Italian branded E-Ros Dakota-606. It is very similar in construction and appearance to the Vox Country & Western 6 string acoustic. The E-Ros Dakota 606 and the Vox Country & Western are both bolt-on neck models and are, for all intents and purposes, clones of each other. This misconception of the Vox Country & Western being the guitar that Page used on the acoustic tracks on ‘Led Zeppelin II’ was further fueled by Rick Beato’s excellent video in which he breaks down the sound of the studio recording of “Ramble On” using a Vox Country & Western 6-string acoustic which he erroneously believed to be the model that Page used. It was not. But the sound and construction is basically identical.
You've bested me there, O knower of facts. Of course, knowledge is not a competition. Thank you for the insight! On Rick's video is where I'd first heard he used one. And you're right, It is quite a fantastic video regardless. I believe he, and now thus I, had been misinformed. @@AllenGarberGuitarFun
@@AttiMatterTo be fair to Rick, he doesn’t state for certain that the Vox IS the guitar. And there’s almost no way he would have gone that in depth on Page’s instruments. I’ve studied Page’s playing and Led Zeppelin’s gear for over 35 years and I’ve contributed to a book on the subject called ‘Led Zeppelin Gear’. It’s not that I’m so smart, it’s just a question of where one focuses their attention. And Rick is far too busy being completely brilliant to have spent the time figuring out what shampoo Page used on the 1977 tour. It was Pantene by the way…😂
Great song to pick for this, that picture of Jimmy looks like he is doing the song. I heard one of Jimmy's Les Paul's was a gift from Joe Walsh.
He actually bought it from him his number one it had a shaved down thinner neck and he loved it.
He is not recording “Ramble On” in that photo. Those photos of Page using the E-Ros Dakota 606 acoustic at Olympic Studios on April 14, 1969 were from the very first session for the album when he recorded the song “La La” which was eventually released in the Super Deluxe Edition of ‘Led Zeppelin II’ in 2014. Jimmy specifically confirms this in the book ‘Led Zeppelin by Led Zeppelin’.
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun very studious observation thx
Thank you so much again!!!!
This is great!
*Playing by Numbers.* spontaneity.
*Playing by Numbers.* You can all join in. Look for the wee 'wizard' behind the levers. I used to think LZ were all about spontaneity. 😎 🍻 🎶?
Plants vocals sound BETTER isolated. Usually it's the opposite with passionate rock singers. They know it's about how thier voice and attitude sounds best in the mix. Of course Robert knows this yet still isolated he sounds perfect!
Exceptional -- Can you do a video and show us how to deconstruct songs.........
As a guitar player this would be quite helpful........
@shutupandplay has the best lesson on this song I’ve seen
Audacity
Sounds like Bonzo is tapping on Page's Guitar Case. (not a seat) Spot on re:the acoustic guitar. (Jimmy doesn't include it in his book so it was probably borrowed) Rick Beato has a excellent video should the unique construction of the acoustic guitar which provides the unique sound.
Rick was incorrect. Page did not have the E-Ros Dakota 606 acoustic guitar when “Ramble On” was recorded on June 1, 1969 at Groove Sound Studio in New York City. The photos that Rick based his guess on the guitar that Page used on “Ramble On” was taken on April 14, 1969 at Olympic Studios at the session for the song “La La” which was released in 2014 on the Super Deluxe Edition of ‘Led Zeppelin II’. Jimmy confirms this in the book ‘Led Zeppelin by Led Zeppelin’.
@@AllenGarberGuitarFunyou are correct, that phot wasn’t from the sessions for ramble on as it was recorded in NYC at Groove sound studios and Juggy sound studios. There is one photo of Jimmy playing a Gibson b25 at A&R studios in New York but since the only track recorded there was heartbreaker, one can assume he was just jamming on the guitar, nothing else. trying to narrow down which guitar he used won’t give me any 100% results as only Page would know that, but i can use the process of elimination. He didn’t have his Harmony Sovereign 1260 until 1970 so that rules that one out. He didn’t receive his Martin D28 til 1970 and anyway, the acoustic doesn’t sound like a Martin D28 so that one is out. He was in the US so he couldn’t have borrowed Ji Sullivan’s Gibson J200 again plus he went on record saying that he asked Jim to borrow the guitar again for LZ 2 but Jim said no so again, that one is out. Reverting back to the Gibson B25 i thought it could’ve been that one since that is the only acoustic he is seen with anywhere in NYC however, the Gibson B25 is a small bodied guitar, the sound from Ramble on resonates and sounds like a big bodied guitar so i assumed it couldn’t have been that one either. Page has been seen with the E-Ros Dakota 606 guitar in the studios recording La La which means that he used it for studio work. Listening to La La, the sound is similar to the ramble on when you isolate it so i can only assume that it may have been the E-Ros that he used on Ramble on since, essentially, all other acoustic guitars wouldn’t have been available to him. The only other possibility is that he could’ve used whichever acoustic guitar was in the studio and if that’s the case, then we will never know.
@@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020 Yes, I’m aware of all of that, though I will correct you regarding the Harmony H-1260. Page had that guitar for quite some time before 1970…in fact, according to Page himself he used it to write much of the first four albums. He has many times referred to coming up with arrangement for “Babe I’m Gonna Leave You” on the Harmony Sovereign H-1260 for example. But Page has stated that he did not use it to record the first and second albums. As you mentioned, it is well known that he recorded the acoustic tracks from the first album on the Gibson J-200 borrowed from Mickie Most and that Mickie would not allow him to borrow it for ‘Led Zeppelin II’’s sessions. I believe this led to the possible rental of the E-Ros Dakota 606 for the early Olympic Studios sessions for the second album. Curiously, Page has NEVER mentioned the E-Ros Dakota 606 in any interview or in the official books.
I agree that it is most likely that the acoustic parts of “Ramble On” were recorded using the E-Ros Dakota 606 guitar. The sound of the guitar is just identical to the unique properties of the Vox Country-Western and its nearly identical twin the E-Ros Dakota 606. I had considered the photo of Page using the Gibson B-25 taken at A&R Studios in New York City in 1969 which was very near the time of the only known recording date for “Ramble On”, but the sound is the giveaway as Rick ably discussed-though he was incorrect about which guitar was used because it was clearly the E-Ros and not the Vox.
The problem with the recording dates that Page has provided in ‘Led Zeppelin by Led Zeppelin’, ‘Jimmy Page by Jimmy Page’, ‘Jimmy Page: The Anthology’ and particularly the booklets contained in the Super Deluxe editions of the Led Zeppelin albums is that in the case of ‘Led Zeppelin II’, each track was made up of different parts that were recorded at Olympic Studios in London and of course various studios across the U.S. and Canada. I’m fairly certain that the E-Ros Dakota did not belong to Jimmy and it was rented for the Olympic sessions at the very beginning of the recording of the second album. I believe Jimmy likely laid down acoustic guitar and perhaps bass and drums for “Ramble On” during the same session as he recorded “La-La”. He listed “Ramble On” as being recorded in July of 1969, but I don’t think the entirety of the track was recorded on the individual date that he gave. Again, most of the recorded songs on the second album were made up of overdubs across different sessions over many months of touring, so it is very, very difficult to say that “Ramble On” was recorded in it’s entirety on any specific individual date…this goes for any of the tracks on ‘Led Zeppelin II’. So for this reason and the sonic characteristics that Rick spoke of and demonstrated, I’m firmly convinced that Jimmy used the E-Ros Dakota 606 to record the acoustic tracks for “La-La” and “Ramble On”, likely at the same Olympic session. He has never been photographed with that guitar at any other time and he did not take it on tour with him. I can’t say for sure whether he used the E-Ros Dakota 606 on “Thank You” which was the only other track with acoustic guitar on the album. It is possible, but I have zero evidence for that. He might have used the Gibson B-25 that he was photographed with, or that may have been simply a guitar that he was photographed with and that guitar may not have been used to record any parts of ‘Led Zeppelin II’. It might have easily been rented from Manny’s Music or other music stores which were a 10 minute walk from A&R Studios where that photo was taken. But at this stage with the information that is currently available, we don’t know for a fact whether that B-25 was used to record anything at all.
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun excellent analysis and you are correct, Page acquired the Harmony Sovereign circa mid 1960s. The E-Ros may have been rented but there is at least one more phot of them pre LZ2 that looks to be early 1969, like January/February, where they’re all jamming on acoustic guitars where Jonesy has a huge triangular bass and Page has the E-Ros with him, it looks like they’re in someone’s home as there is a fireplace. That’s why i thought it was his but the thing about the E-Ros is that it is such an underrated guitar in Page’s arsenal that it usually goes under the radar and it is often missed by all except the purists Led Zeppelin fans. I got one for you and maybe you can give your input and tell me what you think: i can’t believe i missed this key piece of the puzzle as it is so in my face that I didn’t notice. When looking at the photo of Page supposedly playing La La, he is seen playing an A chord. Well i went to check the chords for LA LA and the chords used are as follows- F, C, G, Bb, Gm. The A chord is never used on the song, correct me if I’m wrong but that’s what i found. If you can confirm that the A chord isn’t used in La, La at all then your assumptions were correct about him recording both tracks in the same session and i think we may be able to solve the mystery of which guitar was actually used for Ramble On.
@@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020 I am well aware of that photo by the fireplace with the triangular bass that Jones is holding. I don't think there is a firm date on that photo. If you have such evidence, I'd be interested in seeing it. But that photo is near to the April 1969 Olympic sessions as far as I can tell. Many have pointed out the chord grip in that photo as likely being from "Ramble On" and I had considered that many, many years ago-decades back in fact. It was noted in 'Led Zeppelin by Led Zeppelin' that the photo was from the session for "La La" and it is possible that is the case. I've learned to play all of the songs in the catalog on guitar, but I haven't learned "La La". It is a rather boring piece to me...but I might transcribe it and learn it in the interest of completing the task of learning what is in the officially released catalog and I could give a more definitive answer for that. But alternate tunings change chord positions on a guitar and it is therefore possible that "La La" and "Ramble On" might share some grips that appear similar. I don't think there is really much mystery to this anymore...there is more evidence that "La La" and "Ramble On" were more than likely recorded at the same session and I listed that evidence earlier (although ears can be fooled and my ears and your ears and Rick Beato's ears telling us that the "sound" is that of the E-Ros Dakota 606 isn't concrete evidence)...at least the acoustic parts of "Ramble On" are most likely to have been recorded at Olympic in the first sessions (see my above description of how the second album was recorded).
My favourite Led Zeppelin track
the guitar solos is AWESOME. Jimmy Page at his truely best .
17:05 magic
still looking for someone who can play this like on the record
Just an FYI- that wasn’t a VOX country and western V238 guitar. that picture wasn’t from the sessions for ramble on as it was recorded in NYC at Groove sound studios and Juggy sound studios. There is one photo of Jimmy playing a Gibson b25 at A&R studios in New York but since the only track recorded there was heartbreaker, one can assume he was just jamming on the guitar, nothing else. trying to narrow down which guitar he used won’t give me any 100% results as only Page would know that, but i can use the process of elimination. He didn’t have his Harmony Sovereign 1260 until 1970 so that rules that one out. He didn’t receive his Martin D28 til 1970 and anyway, the acoustic doesn’t sound like a Martin D28 so that one is out. He was in the US so he couldn’t have borrowed Jim Sullivan’s Gibson J200 again plus he went on record saying that he asked Jim to borrow the guitar again for LZ 2 but Jim said no so again, that one is out. Reverting back to the Gibson B25 i thought it could’ve been that one since that is the only acoustic he is seen with anywhere in NYC however, the Gibson B25 is a small bodied guitar, the sound from Ramble on resonates and sounds like a big bodied guitar so i assumed it couldn’t have been that one either. Page has been seen with the E-Ros Dakota 606 guitar in the studios recording La La which means that he used it for studio work. Listening to La La, the sound is similar to the ramble on when you isolate it so i can only assume that it may have been the E-Ros that he used on Ramble on since, essentially, all other acoustic guitars wouldn’t have been available to him. Additionally, there is a photo of all four of them have in what seems to be an acoustic guitar jam session over at someone’s home, judging by their hairstyles, this was early 1969 (around the time of the danish tv special). Which means Page used the E-Ros for most acoustic stuff thru 1969. The only other possibility is that he could’ve used whichever acoustic guitar was in the studio and if that’s the case, then we will never know.
Can you deconstruct So Bad by Paul McCartney??
Can you try to deconstruct Kashmir and Achilles Last Stand????? Kashmir is from the double album Physical Graffiti, and Achilles Last Stand is from Presence.
Please do one for When The Levee breaks.
Could you deconstruct "Greasy Heart" by the Jefferson Airplane so we can here Jack Cassidy's bass line? Please?
20:27 sounds like he starts to say “got” and quickly changes to the right lyric
Anybody know for sure what Bonham was doing until the actual drums kicked in? It kind of sounds like a practice drum pad, but a bit muffled, like he was usimg his hands and not sticks.
Well...
Sounds like a Tom with some towel, But with a ton of rebev on top
Can't go wrong with Led Zeppelin.
Robert Plant 🖤
Where did you get this? Like the tuning up at the start of the electric guitar part, that's not on the track. Is this constructed from bootlegs or outtakes or something? If so I'd like to know which ones so I can get them
from original tracks
@@DLD2Music Ok thank you, but how? I don't hear some of this stuff (like the tuning up) anywhere on the original tracks
Just look up ramble on - isolated, whole song is there with isolated vocals, etc.
These are from bootlegs which were released years ago.
F.Y.I. Page did not use a Vox Country and Western acoustic guitar on this recording. According to Jimmy and the photographer, the studio photos that show him with a similar looking E-Ros Dakota 606 acoustic are from the very first session for the ‘Led Zeppelin II’ album on April 14, 1969 which was for the song “La La” which was not released until 2014. Jimmy confirms this in the book ‘Led Zeppelin by Led Zeppelin’. “Ramble On” was recorded on June 1, 1969 likely using a rented then new Gibson B-25 acoustic guitar that is the only other acoustic guitar Page was photographed using in the studio during the time of the recording of the second album. Page and Plant were photographed using this guitar on May 21, 1969 at A&R Studios in New York City which was physically and chronologically close to the Groove Studio session for “Ramble On”. It is likely that Page rented this Gibson B-25 acoustic from a local New York City music store like Manny’s Music.
Good observation. I also thought that it may have been the Gibson b25 until i heard people playing it. The sound is very thin and that of a small bodied guitar. I then heard La La and compared the guitar sounds and they are very similar to the one on Ramble on, akin to a big bodied guitar, like a dreadnought. So i was thinking it could be that Page used the E-Ros for the recording as he may have been traveling with it or, that he used whatever acoustic guitar was available at the studio.
Bonham playing his drum stool during the verses?
he is actually tapping on Jimmy's guitar case
According to the very well researched biography ‘A Thunder of Drums’ Bonham played this part on an empty guitar case.
can you also please songs by beach boys?
Always thought that was double tracked Ebow during the instrumental break.
The E-Bow did not exist in June of 1969 when “Ramble On” was recorded. The sound you are hearing is simply natural feedback. It was invented in 1969, but it was not actually produced until 1976.
Doubtful it’s feedback, the notes ring out too long, a fed back note like that wouldn’t move that quickly.
@@davidlefkowitz885 It is feedback according to Page himself in his 1977 interview with Steven Rosen, but it is obviously feedback.
Steven Rosen: What kind of effect are you using on the beginning of "Ramble On"?
Jimmy Page: “I can remember correctly, it's like harmony feedback, and then it changes. To be more specific, most of the tracks just start off bass, drums, and guitar and once you've done the drums and bass, you just build everything up afterwards. It's like a starting point, and you start constructing from square one.”
There are two harmony guitars and that sound and infinite feedback are easily achieved with nothing but a Les Paul and a loud amplifier. I’m not sure if you’ve ever played a Gibson guitar into an amp even at moderate volume levels, but that sound is very easy to reproduce.
Does he sound like he’s hybrid picking the chorus riff? 🤔
It does its how I play it.
Is Jimmy strumming the acoustic with a pick?
Cant read notes but i can hear the way he plays and copy the bass line not first take but after Some time tears blood ❤️and🦋 sweat practise and patience i can
I thought he was looking for a bluebird?
When Deconstruct Silly Love Songs
Your electric guitar and backing vocals are out of sync
I wonder if he was still using flats at this time