Hey everyone! Happy Halloween! Hope you liked the video. Small correction, I used the word lauded incorrectly. Calling myself out on this one. Slipped by my mind until I rewatched it. Have a great week!
what villain from Cinderella could they have featured to fit in among the others, though? the old wicked step mother can hardly compare to dragons and demons lol
Honestly, it’s a shame they pulled the plug on this entire concept. I’d love to go on an attraction themed entirely around the Disney villains scaring the shit out of you, it’s a super unique and cool idea. If it was handled better it might’ve been more well received and maybe even made its way to America
@@TheTiktok4321 I love it for that, and I WISH there was one with all of them from the Evil Queen to Scar with the heroes (not the princesses, the GUYS) having to band together to defeat them! It could totally be a walk-through attraction that's also a stage show with the characters...or it could just have animatronics, that would probably be creepier and more effective.
@@jemofthe80s18 I think if you'd want a reskin of this actual style, the ideal 'guide' character would be Gaston, who'd absolutely lead a group in through a villains' lair and not see a problem with that until something goes wrong (that's basically the climax to Beauty and the Beast, after all). I could also see Aladdin working from a perspective of 'have the thief show you around where the bad guys hang out', but I think Gaston fits a more general aesthetic better. As well as being a lot of fun to play around with as a character, and a really good counter to how scary such a ride could be.
OH...I think I can picture that. Aladdin would definitely be undercover who isn't a bad guy because he's NOT one (man, that movie--any Muslim could've told them what happens to people who mistreat poor orphans as well as what it actually means to be a thief) but is the one who saves the day. Only Gaston is in charge who doesn't take orders from anyone but himself and would let everyone else die as long as he gets out okay and as the hero...that's the tour I'D like to see.
Dude... working as the Myster Tour guide must have been EXHAUSTING. The sprinting, the screaming, the entire plot summary of Black Cauldron, the sword, the medal the inevitably traumatized child gets... they better have been paying those ladies well.
As traumatizing as this must be, I’m imagining some small kid very afraid of the experience being given the sword of light and doing the whole shebang and afterwards thinking “I… I did it!” and having an insane confidence boost from defeating the Horned King and getting a medal and being a big hero and stuff. That would have to be one of the most awesome, uplifting feelings ever.
I feel this is a big thing people miss from any dark or gothic material. In most stories like this, the whole damn point is to find the "light in the darkness" and come out on top despite the gloom but everyone just hyper focuses on the setting or antagonist and how "terrifying" they are and denounces it as bad based on that. This is what made shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog so great; it scared the piss out of kids, sure, but it taught some very personal, close to the heart morals and was far deeper than anything we have today. The Mystery Tour is probably one of my favorite examples of this effect working as intended because it scared the shit out of kids, sure, but it also taught them that they could conquer that fear through courage. Most of them no doubt probably grew up to love horror movies and monsters later on and are subjecting their kids to this same stuff.
@@Impalingthorn Well, you have a point in saying that, but let me also say that I believe there is such a thing as going overboard. Like, I've read some tales, seen some things, the like, where there was a happy ending but the stuff that led up to it was so disturbing I was basically too shook or depressed to even appreciate it. There've even been one or two times where I felt insulted to an extent, as if the happy ending were less a satisfying conclusion and more of a hand wave, as if it were an insult to anyone who couldn't handle the dark stuff and not anything to lift one's spirits. And guess what? That threshold is different for everyone, and it's not a one dimensional axis either. Know what I mean?
Funny because that's actually what a lot of haunted houses usually accomplish with adults. If they're done right, they can give us the confidence and motivation we need to push ourselves beyond a limit we didn't think was possible. I can definitely see a lot of kids being scared by this then coming back and going "U know what? I wanna keep going."
right now, kids have an opportunity to face Kylo Ren -- not an animatronic, a living person -- and defeat him there's absolutely a market for the opportunity to defeat Disney's darkest (mortal) villain
I love the idea of a "hijacked" ride - it could have worked just as convincingly on a track ride by having a fake out part where the track is "supposed" to go one way, but the ride diverts to a track originally hidden to guests and takes them into the dungeons instead. Honestly concepts like this are disappointingly underutilised by Disney. You'd think with Haunted Mansion being so popular, they'd understand that going with interesting or unexpected concepts is much better and more unique!
I think if I understood your comment correctly, there's a ride similar to what you described! It's called Jurassic Park River Adventure, and can be found at Universal Orlando! It's a water based track ride, where park goers get into small boats and are taken on a tour through Jurassic Park. At one part of the ride, it seems as if the boat is going to continue on its "intended" path, but instead takes a left into the "restricted" section of the park, where hostile dinosaurs have escaped and are tearing everything to shreds. It goes from a relaxed water adventure through the scenic open-air dinosaur park with a calming over voice, to an escape through a closed-air facility with a person shouting over the comms! The end of the ride has a large T-rex - which appears as though it will eat the riders - before dropping them down a long slide. It's one of those splash rides that you only go on if you're willing to get wet. I remember going on it when I was younger (about 8 or 9) and being absolutely terrified because I thought that the ride had actually been thrown off track by the dinosaurs!
That's kind of how the story of Expedition Everest works. It's supposed to be a nice mountain train ride, the track is destroyed by the yeti, and then you go careening through the caves backwards. Pretty neat honestly
@@SouthernBelleReviews ? That was the name of the attraction. What did you want him to do, make up a new name and pretend that's what it was called all along???
"Fellas, we're making a commercial about Disneyland Tokyo. What do you know about the Japanese?" "Well, they're not buying our cars, that's for sure!" "Perfect! Double down on it."
Yeah (gonna have to be in California since Florida has those pesky aquifers that would cause lots of water damage to the ride, though IDK how basements work in California so it might not work there either).
makes you wonder what the fuck Cinderella's problem is though. Or I guess her in-laws' problem. Did she throw her stepsisters and that fat mouse that almost ruined everything into the cauldron?
Okay, my family lived in Japan in the 90’s (military), and when we moved back to the states everyone thought I was crazy when I would say that Cinderella’s castle was scary. Thank you for letting me know that this wasn’t just a fever dream
It's kinda metal, honestly. If that dialogue is a direct translation from what the Horned King says, that's way more intense than anything I've seen in Disneyland, even the end of Mr. Toad. It's a shame to think that if they'd tried this same attraction here, American parents would almost certainly have been crying about their poor little angels being scarred for life.
@@kylefrank638 Yeah... but hell isn't part of a specific religion... it's a common belief that hell exists, in Greek mythology, Christianity, Judaism, etc. Satan is unique to Christianity.
@Adrian Well he overspent on buying assets especially 20th Century Fox if he hadn't bought so much to the point where Disney is practically a monopoly they'd probably have been a bit more financially stable during this pandemic for at least a little bit more into the year.
They could be- Disney reacquired the filming rights for the Chronicles of Prydain (from which the Black Cauldron is derived), two years ago. So odds are they're going to remake the film itself and/or possibly do the other books in the series in turn.
@@ravenf6 Well, they are doing Live Action reimaginings of their animated films. Black Cauldron, of all of Disney's animated films, could honestly use the Live Action treatment. It could certainly use it WAY more then, say, The Lion King -_-
Matt N yeah, I’d love an 80s nostalgia live action reimagining of the Black Cauldron like Princess Bride or Willow but with higher quality and modern technology... it would be fucking awesome
@@worrywirt You can't have better quality than Princess Bride or Willow today... it's all CGI crap and marketing bullshit.... They were and they still are cream of the crop.
* Disney: * We need an attraction here. Something that says “Cinderella”. * Imagineers: * How about, instead, we lure 5-year olds in with the promise of Cinderella and surprise them by sending them deep down into a secret wizard dungeon that doubles as satan’s hell portal to swordfight with a demon overlord who is trying to boil the human race alive in his sacrificial hell cauldron so he can plunge the earth into infinite darkness in accordance to Satan’s wishes! * Disney: * .... Genius.
@Aspiring Marauder i know it isnt just whites ruining everything, come on, rwanda, myanmar, boko haram, china, the modern slave trade. My point was that every country tries to cover what they did, until they cant do it anymore
*The animators did exactly what was asked of them, re-did it to make some dude happy, and animated one of the most technically impressive animated movies of their time.* Disney: "Yeah let's fire all the animators it's probably their fault somehow."
I don't think it was about fault, in fact, that might have actually worked against them there. They made a really cool movie and put a whole lot of effort in, but it was still a flop, despite all that. Corporate saw that the animation studio just wasn't pulling it's weight, so they thought about pulling the plug.
@@shreddedyeet corporate demanded that the movie be cut down, maybe the movie would've actually been successfull if it wasn't amputated that late into production.
Honestly, as much as I will always dislike the movie for butchering one of my favorite book series of all time (seriously, read "The Prydain Chronicles" by Lloyd Alexander--they're damn good and really sophisticated for a middle-grade children's series), I don't blame the animators at all. There were a lot of extremely talented people working on the movie, including '90s renaissance hotshots Andreas Deja and Glen Keane. For the direction and script they were given, the animation is actually pretty great, and a lot of the concept art is fascinating. I just wish they weren't trying to stuff two different books into one movie. :P
@@amiefortman7220(I know I'm late but) I've never heard of this film and the animation looks absolutely beautiful. It feels like maybe it was more of a plot issue, which is annoying because animators aren't writers. Not that they *can't* write, but they shouldn't be expected to if they're already spending 40hrs/wk animating. It sucks how everyone wants to blame the artists when animated films go sideways cause most of the time it is definitely not their fault
can we also talk about how katsenburg reportedly literally tore out large chunks of the movie? the reason why the film feels so bizarre and disjointed is because so much of the plot was removed and the last year of production was spent trying to redo as much as possible (which is also why some scenes look grainier/have strange colours compared to others) Although honestly I think a lot of the animators probably just quit after this film - Tim Burton worked on it and cited the experience as the reason he gave up on animating
If Iger had had the sense to use Disney's existing IPs instead of just buying everyone else's, we'd probably already have a Kingdom Hearts attraction by now (or maybe even its own land!)
@@Viking_Luchador that would have to go through Square enix. They originally had a (very scary) Sora walk around costume but that was only to promote Chain of Memories. There is no themed land for it yet.
This actually makes sense as a Japanese attraction. As far as I understand, lots of Japanese adolescents love a good test of courage during summers and camps, so it works as a concept. Yes, it’s a little extreme for the younger children, but that’s why it’s great to have it as a group attraction in this case.
@@warnegoodman that's kind of what I was thinking, although I'm american so I can't speak definitively on it. Different cultural norms and whatnot, americans are very Afraid of spirits in general
I remember this nightmare attraction when my parents took me in 1988 (I was 6). I cried the whole way through and thought the only reason I was chosen to defeat that scary ass demon, was the guide thought I was legit traumatized...and I was. Thanks for putting this together. Good to know I didn’t make up this crazy experience!
Saw this while I lived in Japan. Hands down my favorite attraction. It felt like a secret tour we stumbled on because no one was waiting in line for it. Even though my mom didn't speak Japanese and couldn't understand she really enjoyed it as well.
Any other kid who is chosen to defeat the Horned King: *Screaming and crying* That one kid who played Legend of Zelda and Kingdom Hearts: "It's like, I was born for this..."
It's funny because, both The Black Cauldron and the original Legend of Zelda came out at around the same time and both feature green tunic wearing heroes, a blonde princess clad in purple and pink, and evil king/wizard.
I went though this, I was maybe 5 years old. My family was stationed outside Tokyo on an Air Force base. I held the sword at the end of the ride, it was terrifying! What you didn’t see was the apparitions around the horned king flying out the cauldron which made the experience that much scarier. Oh! And the friggin sword they gave you to thwart the villain lit up and vibrated like crazy. Thank you Tokyo Disneyland for that expreiace/ trauma. 😂
wow man, that’s amazing and unbelievable (yet pretty believable) that you went through the tour alone at age 5 in the late 80’s early 90’s (?) just a different time back then that’s for sure, and yes you were amazingly brave to make it through at age 5. i’m guessing that your parents talked w the guide and a few other adults before ? wow alone through that at age 5 is just amazing. really up until maybe 13-14y/o would be really really scary I’d imagine...
I share the same trauma! I visited Tokyo Disney when I was 6 and my dad insisted on taking me on the tour because he thought it was a princess castle tour. I had a terrible feeling from the beginning for no reason and kept asking my dad to leave the line with me, but he kept assuring me it would be okay for an hour. I thought maybe I was overthinking it when the guide brought us to the castle doors, but then I looked up and saw the Magic Mirror in like the tiniest form possible. I begged dad again and he said it was just a regular mirror. HE WAS WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING! Little me couldn’t comprehend that all of it was fake and was 100% convinced we were going to die during the room with the Horned King because the skeletons below reassembled themselves and their empty sockets glowed red. I remember frantically trying to figure out how to fight them until the hero stepped in. No small child should be subjected to the stress that this attraction brings when you don’t understand any Japanese omggggg. This was in 2001 or 2002.
At one point we’d see other cast members in the dungeon and I was like YES WE’RE SAAAAVED! Someone is here to help us! But they didn’t move at all (I’m guessing they’re just cast members that make sure guests don’t do dumb things in a dark and narrow tunnel.) so I thought they were possessed. Little 6 year old me was very stressed and kept thinking of various escape and/or kill plans.
@@drewfinn2 I think Japan is considered a lot safer for kids to be alone compared to America. Human trafficking is a smaller risk there and everything is generally more orderly, especially back in the 80’s
"the guide then describes the film's plot, an integral part of the spiel considering no one watched the film" that was way funnier than it needed to be lmao 💀
It's so sad how badly Disney has treated The Black Cauldron. Fans have been begging for a decent home release (especially with the deleted footage restored) for decades. Just today it was announced that there is a blu-ray box set of every Disney animated feature up to 2018 for the holidays BUT there is a little asterisk stating that The Black Cauldron wouldn't be a blu-ray but an old DVD (which itself was probably an old laserdisc transfer). So instead of getting a proper transfer or even just an HD transfer, the movie gets shafted once again. And the worst part is, the Black Cauldron was the only other Disney animated movie made for 70mm besides Sleeping Beauty. It would benefit the most from a proper restoration/transfer compared to any other post-Sleeping Beautry feature when Disney switched to cheaper techniques.
MrTBoneSF loved the movie a child and may have been one of the only people to see it in the theater jk. I wasn’t scared at all and found sleeping beauty scarier. I rewatched it last year and it’s still good and would love to see those missing 10 minutes
The mirror face and character that walked around were actually the perfect blend of Japanese sensibilities onto a US character. The mirror in fact looks like a guy with a kabuki mask on--or at least with face paint quite like it. It is almost more amusing and clever to me than it is terrifying. I wish you had the Japanese audio in here, I would love to know if the mirror talks with a dramatic air, like you would expect going to see kabuki itself.
I guess this is why I don't get why they couldn't get a Japanese actor for it. With such heavy makeup, they could have found a Japanese person with the right face.
Unlike a lot of other defunct rides covered on this channel, this one sounded like a really high quality attraction. Would make for an amazing seasonal attraction during autumn.
It's awesome they give a presumably horrified child the chance to banish one of the most evil demonic forces in Disney history. That's something you'd never forget.
I wonder how much they bothered to remove from the ride after it was closed? I like to think that the Horned King and his un-dead army are still down there, plotting their revenge...
I like to imagine the Horned King is just partying it up downstairs under the name of DJ Dead-beats; laying down some maleficent jams for all those crypt crawlers, shaky shamblers, and baleful bailarínes. They've all had a bad case of brain rot, so he's teaching them how to live a little with his wrathful rhythm. I hope I'm not the only person that uses maleficent as an adverb.
Now pretty much the only unique stuff there is going to get sea salt ice cream, stealing the room keys from the hotel, and then leaving to go to the Square Enix store in Tokyo because that’s where all the Kingdom Hearts merch that you don’t have to steal is
Being the kid who got to hold the sword and be the hero sounds like it must have been the closest anyone could get to living a classic adventure, which the horror must have really strengthened like it does in eighties adventure movies. Usually. I'm unimpressed with Disney attractions that seem like safe and straight forward entertainment spots, while everyone lauds it all as the most magical place on earth (which is really sad if that's the case). But with an attraction like this ,any kid who got to go through that must have actually felt like they were experiencing magic.
honestly ive ended up liking universal much more... they got something for everyone... the scary, the gentle, and the magical... Disney has fallen from grace lately and its not really "magical" outside of a few rides and all the good rides have pretty much left anyways...
god I admire this ride so much. from the lack of overt announcement that it will be scary, to the reliance on live performance to carry guests through it, to the use of characters and story elements from a lesser known but quite interesting little film for its basis, it's all just so good. If Disney did more shit like this I'd be way more interested in going!
We among other things. We're invited to have tea with the English in Hong Kong,Mayla,Burma and India. And totaly not force Obi Wan Kenboi to build a Railroad.
Nah just keep it as animation stop encouraging shitty live action reboots those never work out and everything looks corny asf but due to how everything is nowadays in society it'll just be sjw garbage with forced diversity, gender swapped roles for no reason, and much more shit so in other words FUCK NO :D
“The fairy tale hall fits the theming and tone of Cinderella’s castle better than Mystery tours did” You know what? Yeah. Why does Cinderella have a dungeon in her castle??? 😂
It's weird that they thought the magic mirror would be unrecognizable if he was played by a Japanese actor. The mask-face is kinda ethnically ambiguous anyway, but the makeup they put on the actor looks almost like kabuki theater stuff...I don't think under all that facepaint the ethnicity of the actor is very recognizable. And honestly...if I'd seen a picture of that makeup job out of context it would not have been immediately obvious to me that it was supposed to look like the mask in the Disney movie.
I find it weird that they used a live actor. Even when Hans Conreid did it in the Disney Christmas special in the fifties, it was disturbing. The mask figure is so brilliant and effectively "Disney" that a live actor makes it go "off-model." The castle tour could have easily animated it with the tour guide acting in time to it. Then it could have had all the effects added too.
Lisa Jonasson Yeah, I would not have guessed it was the magic mirror from Snow White. Maybe they just wanted to make him look more Japanese, so they made him look more kabuki theater instead of Snow White? I don’t know why they didn’t animate it. I guess Disney America couldn’t do lip syncing for Japanese, or maybe Disney Japan had limited animating capabilities?
this was my favourite movie growing up. i would rent it from blockbuster every week, my parents eventually asked if they could buy the copy cause i would keep taking it out haha
America is eating it up like big Macs. Canada is eating it up like poutine. Israel is eating it up like falafel. Turkey is eating it up like doner kebab. France is eating it up like crepes. Germany is eating it up like bratwurst. Pakistan is eating it up like biryani.
@@UC95mhG_3gy5GpQmB0kFf_Gg That’s fair enough. I just disagree. The idea that all Asians eat rice is a stereotype that has been used to degrade people. I personally believe that generalizing stereotypes made towards one race by another are just as racist as slurs. It’s basically the same as saying that they all look the same to me. Again, though. I can see your reasoning, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
@Michael Ok, that’s fair enough, but as I’ve said already, this is a manner of opinion. Nothing you say is going to change it and nothing I say is going to change yours. So let’s just drop it.
I like how the mirror looks like the way they do makeup in Kabuki, traditional Japanese theater. Always appreciate how Japan uses its culture in creative ways, so that you don’t even realize you’re encountering it until you learn about it.
Not to pile on another generic compliment, but your channel is genuinely one of the best on UA-cam. The meticulous research, the fascinating subjects, and just the right amount of humour. Thanks for all your hard work.
Oh geez, that tokyo disneyland commecrial sure is... something. Fun fact though: Osamu Tezuka, creator of Astro Boy and Kimba the White Lion, was actually a major Disney fan and much of anime's big-eyed art style that Tezuka popularized comes from him watching Bambi over 80 times in theatres as a kid.
Oh my GOD. I went on this when I was like 3 or 4 or something and only remembered tiny bits of it and always thought it may have just been a crazy fever dream. The light up sword is what I remember the most. It was real!
I actually loved the Black Cauldron. I liked that it was a Disney movie that was darker and more mature, something you want as you grow older. I also learned years later that the Horned King was voiced by the legendary John Hurt, which makes me love the film more. I do know and understand the flaws of it, but I like it and I like that they built an attraction around it. The Horned King is a scary and badass villain
Same. It’s one of my favorite Disney movies of all time. Horned King is one of my favorite villains. Wish they had this attraction still. I would love to go for the first time. Also never been to Disney parks and want to go
This seems like one of the coolest attractions Disney has ever done, and I am sad that I missed getting to see it by just a few short years. I wish it was still active when I went to Tokyo Disney.
It’s kinda funny actually - even though the line can be seen as (and probably was intended to be) racist, Rice is the most popular food in japan, and to extent most Asian countries
Cedric Dungo weren’t you paying attention? It didn’t fly by yesterday’s cultural standards either. The only difference is the groups complaining about it have changed.
That’s pretty incredible to build a company where, even after you die, the biggest arguments for the direction of the company’s projects are over what you would’ve wanted. And then the resolution being that they literally can’t match the innovation brought, so the philosophy becomes “turn the imagination up to 11”
When I was a kid me and my dad went to see the Extraterrorextrial ride, and mistook it as an E.T themed ride, I never fully recovered from the trauma...
A girl had a full on panic attack when I was on it, they had to temporarily shut off the ride, all the lights went on in the middle of it and after she was escorted out it continued again. Made it even more intense. She was screaming bloody murder.
What shade? What racism? If the animatronics are programmed to not mention world war 2 then you lot are programmed like good NPC's to find racism in everything. Acknowledgment that a different race or culture _is a different race or culture_ is not racism. Acknowledging that Japan doesn't need/want American cars is not racism. "Eating it all up like rice" is not racist. Asians eat a lot of rice. Rice is a base food in Asia just as pasta is in Italy. It's a factual statement. My Chinese friends eat rice for 90% of their meals. It is not demeaning, nor is it meant to be. De-program yourselves from your idiotic madness.
I REALLY want Disney to do something like this again. Particularly with the whole villian theme. Perhaps not quite this dark but I don't think you can appreciate the magic as much without some horror to balance it. As a small child, I was terrified by the Monstro animatronic in Pinnochio's Daring Journey but I went on that ride every time I went to Disney because the scares make the happy endings that much more enjoyable. This constant fluff we're starting to see all the time is a little disappointing.
@@warriorseamonkey1693 Yeah! I watched a video FastPass Facts did about those and was super surprised. I think the only way that would work in the states is to have it be a special ticketed event. Like Mickey's Halloween Party. That way parents would be less likely to get confused and traumatize their children. I would totally pay to have a disney version of a halloween horror nights type experience with disney villains.
Went to a Dutch fairytale themepark... it had people encounter death and tragedy about as much as magic and wonder. Because people die just as often as they live happily ever after in fairytales.
As always, defunctland is made with so much professionalism, love, and care. This is the best series on this website, and it is better than anything on tv. Great job Kevin
Seriously. This channel really shows the beauty of UA-cam. A show like this would never be on an actual station, but I am learning about so many awesome things. This is also the kind of subject matter, due to copyright and all that, that would be hard to put together into some kind of publishable format. It's also hard to get information and decent pictures from a lot of these things and he puts it all together so well.
No, it's actually a backhanded show of respect. America in the 1980s was paranoid that the Japanese had replaced them at the world's superpower, so the casually racist banter is a sign that America considered Japan as a potential equal. It's like how every passive-aggressive comment made by Europeans at the expense of Americans is made out of insecurity at American power and influence.
@@darkfool2000 Well said. The "they aren't buying our cars, but gobble up our culture" is a tacit and fraternal admission of defeat in one field and a tongue-in-cheek boast in another.
If they tried to remake this, they would HAVE to put warning signs everywhere. There is no way a “mystery tour” would fly now without having to ruin the mystery. I can just imagine all the little ones being too scared; there would be an army of upset parents on its opening day.
Agreed, however kids have to learn at some point what its like to be scared so they know how to cope. To echo something I heard in another video: kids have to know that being scared is not something to be ashamed of. That being said, when it comes to attractions like this, it depends on the maturity of the child, and I would also say that its up to the parents. If parents know that their kid wouldn't be able at handle the intensity of an attraction like this one then they shouldn't take their kid though it.
It used to be the conservatives who were overly sensitive by entertainment products and the progressives ridiculed them for it for decades. Now it's the other way around. What a bizarre world we live in. What happened to creative liberties and freedom of speech you guys fought so long for?
This...honestly sounds amazing and I'm really saddened that I'll never get to experience it. As unlikely as it is, I would be all over Disney bringing this back from the dead in some way.
YAAAS! I would love to go! I can imagine it. Oh how scary it would be dealing with them wanting to kill us and we have to defend ourselves eventually. I love to meet every Disney villain. Even the ones that are very underrated and overlooked by many.
I would absolutely bloody love this!! Lots of creepy and scary rides would be amazing. Id love like a scary/thrilling underwater ride for Ursula/Captain hook. A creepy safari kinda ride for scar and the hyenas. There's honestly so much they could do,and I think it would be one of the most popular parks ever
When I was in high school, I went into this ride with my sister. I trusted Disney enough to know that it would be safe but the dark hallways and the creepy atmosphere scared the shit out of me. Cast members were standing in every corner with stern face to let the guests know which way to go. I screamed once when I was met with one of the cast members because it was just so dark. At the end one of the random guests would be chosen and defeat the dragon and would get a medal as a reward and I remember being so envious for that other kid who got chosen. I went back after 10 years and the ride wasnt there anymore. Now it has a cute walkthrough instead.
@skullpull 101 YEAH. While I know the author of that joke was thinking of why Americans wouldn't want to talk about WW2, he's actually painfully accurately describing the way Japan deals with WW2 - by not talking about it. Both parties are like '...........................nah."
"[The Japanese] will be eating it up like rice." O.o Like, I know that the Disney company is no stranger to racism, but to mention something like that in an advertisement?
Idea: have a structure that does both rides. The Cinderella tour as the normal one and occasionally doing the dungeon one at random. People would line up expecting one but aware that they might get the chance for the spooky one. Would increase replayability too.
Agata Kołakowska I think it’d be wiser to give people the choice of which tour they want to do. Have two separate lines so they know which one they’re getting into. Kinda like Mission Space.
That might work at first but eventually people would probably get frustrated at not getting the experience they want. Especially having to wait in a line multiple times and a lot guests being tourists who have very limited time to spend in the park.
honestly if that cutesy one swerved into THE BLACK CAULDRON NEEDS MORE BODIES!!! it would be the greatest thing I've seen at a theme park since Universal Japan's Godzilla 4D showed Godzilla destroy my office building. The angry moms with traumatized kids would ruin it in a day though.
@@ssharkbait I think what they should do is have some kind of tag. I went to a haunting house that will give you red glowing collars to say that you want to have a much more scary experience by letting the actors be closer to you and even taking you in some areas that would make you go by yourself or with a couple of people. Essentially, you are choosing to aggro the "monsters" and expand your experience, while also, eventually, getting back to the same people that you started with.
Royalname31 that would make more sense! The workers could see who has a tag and lead them around the scarier areas and have both groups meet later after those parts! The line wouldn’t get held up and people could choose their experience.
I think the most important takeaway from this is: There's a Horned King Animatronic. It may be stripped now, but hot dang. That's a crazy thing to see. Wonder if they could ever recreate it for another attraction? Most people don't know where the characters on Splash Mountain are from, I could see them using Black Cauldron characters for a future scary attraction if they wanted to push that envelop again. (And considering Tower of Terror, Alien Encounter, etc. they totally could.)
Imagine if they did a water ride, they could make it look like the mouth of a tunnel is the caudron and park-goers just keep going into it. Throw some dry ice in there and you have yourself a cool visual. Then you put some dark-ride style attraction stuff before you 'escape' at the end and everythings fixed. Its been so long since I've seen that movie I barely remember the plot--I'll have to read up on it.
Aww man, being a host on one of those immersive type rides is so fun but so tiring I was a host for an immersive experience based on the Sherlock TV show and doing a show super early in the morning and super late and night was TOUGH. However when you've got an experience that has such strong tech elements its really easy to react to the things happening even though you've done it many times before
I LOVED this attraction! Another reason for its discontinuance was the have that there was absolutely no way to make it accessible to guests with disabilities. At the time, the Jungle Cruise, Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes, and the Mystery Tour were the only attractions in the park that had no accommodations for guests with disabilities. Only the canoes remain with that distinction.
A great move towards progress and inclusivity. I felt nervous when he said there was stairs and hallways. A lot of people love the idea and story of this ride, but I hate to think of how many people missed out on it because of their disabilities.
Yes sometimes medical issues prevent riders, but just like heart warnings and height requirements, I don't feel it's fair to deny it to everyone. Ideally you could make it accessible. I know it's another factor, another problem to the ride, and can close an attraction by law. I've done Disney by wheelchair. I know some rides struggle to to accommadate, but employees work hard to incorporate often incredibly inconvenient solutions the best that they can while keeping riders safe. For instance: [ The river rapids are the best example, first pausing loading to using the boat maintanence feature to give an unlimited amount of safe boarding time to groups who need it. They've now finally made a system that works well and they explain it perfectly while not risking other riders. It's wrong to not try to include most people, but it's also unfair to take something from everyone, because a few people can't have it. ]
That's such a weird thing to do though. It's like saying, lactose intolerant people exist (esp. here in Japan), so we should stop selling ice cream entirely. If this was really a major factor, a much better option would be to add inclusivity - add ramps and such - and for the ice cream metaphor, sell non-dairy options like shaved ice or milk substitute-based ice creams...
@@cantfiteveryheart if you actually believed that, for even one single second, you wouldn't be cheering the fact that now *everyone* gets to miss out on it because people like you get angry if someone has something you don't.
This looks like it was awesome I'm also reminded that at one time Disney considered making " the dark kingdom" which would be a villain themed park (the consept art is floating around the internet it's castle would have been maleficent's from sleeping beauty) given twisted wonderland a Disney villain mobile game is quite popular currently I think they should reconsider axing the dark kingdom maybe even revive this ride for it!
I actually thought it was rather funny. It feels more like "all in good fun" banter than anything truly malicious. It's also a product of the 80s when Americans were paranoid that Japan had replaced them as the world's superpower (As seen in Back to the Future). It's also hard to condemn when everything said about Japan was true, and if those mild comments are "casual racism" then it's by far some of the most innocuous.
Of course Japan had the most amazing amusement park ride I've ever heard of, OF COURSE they did! We're getting the short end of the stick over here in the States...
I went to this attraction with my family when I was 6, didn't understand a word they were saying but my parents did and urged me to went up and do the honor of course I was scared shitless. A Japanese kid of my age however went up and received his medal prize. I thought it was some kind of a fever dream till this day bc al most none of Disney yt channel mentions it.
@@maskmaskmaskmaskmaskmaskmaskma Probably because their audiences don't cross over much. You can also find Gman comments under old music videos, where he's gushing about how attractive he thinks the female singers are. I'm not joking, look up "Heart of Glass Music Video".
If I'm not mistaken, The Black Cauldron was the first feature that Tim Burton worked on as an animator at Disney, and it was Don Bluth's last Disney feature.
Burton did contributed for the Black Cauldron, but his concept artwork was largely ignored. However he was a key animator in Fox and the Hound and due to its happy nature he basically said "F-ck this" and left after making Vincent and Frankenweenie (the live action short). Bluth left before Burton, after Pete's Dragon made him quit.
They were trying to sell the movie to small children, which was probably a mistake. The movie had an innocene in the beginning. The fox and the hound did not know they are suppose to be mortal enemies as kids. It is when they were adults they become mortal enemies. My little cousin that watch the movie with me had this sad look on his face like he was about to cry.
@@SouthernBelleReviews Woody was a murderous asshole with no redeeming qualities and was completely unlikeable in the original concept for Toy Story. Obviously this would have destroyed any wholesome aspects of the film so his character was completely changed.
I know this would be extremely impractical for the park to do, but I think it would be cool if you could do _either_ of the old Mystery Tour, or the new Castle Tour. Basically, you'd reach an impasse of some sort, the guide would become incapacitated, and two "identical" guides (one good, one bad) would come out of a wall or something. At that point, guests could decide for themselves if they want to explorer the depths of the dungeon with the "bad" guide, or stick to the above ground stuff with the "good" guide. It would give guests a reason to revisit the attraction later on, and give guests an option to avoid the scary stuff, if that's not what they wanted. Again, I know it's super impractical, and logistically would probably be extremely hard to get to work, but I just think it would be so neat if guests got to feel like they had some real impact on the ride by choosing for themselves.
I think it would make more sense to start with a pair of guides, and simply have one who is more adventurous (and ventures down to explore the dungeons,) and one who is less adventurous (and takes you on the tour of the rest of the castle.)
A huge one, and is now hailed as one of Disney Animations underrated gems. But when it released in the 80's it did horribly at the box office and a lot of parents complained about the dark story and most notably The Horned King being too intense for young children.
Man, this attraction sounded really cool! Not only because it was like a haunted house, but because it went against expectations of the guests. I wish I could have experienced it!
Hey everyone! Happy Halloween! Hope you liked the video. Small correction, I used the word lauded incorrectly. Calling myself out on this one. Slipped by my mind until I rewatched it. Have a great week!
Sweet monster mash parody tho
I love learning about all these old attractions and I get a little sad that I never got to experience them myself. This show is awesome good job
But why did you keep calling it a ride?
Great episode! I hope all is well, considering the reasoning for the delay.
When r the books getting shipped?
i think my favorite part is that the mystery tour had absolutely nothing to do with cinderella
so true
So, did you have beef with Cinderella at one point?
@@princessofweirdsville9000 I think it's just because of the irony? 🤔
@@chinniebaby oh I see!
what villain from Cinderella could they have featured to fit in among the others, though? the old wicked step mother can hardly compare to dragons and demons lol
“Programmed not to mention WWII” hit me so hard I thought it was a parody
I cringed when he said they’d eat it up like rice
@@thebigchip1711 it's true tho
as cringe as "make the bad guys cry like an anime fan on prom night"
The entire thing seemed like a parody with bizarre it was. Seriously, I wonder if this was a commercial or a video meant for shareholders
Superiorartemis I mean knowing japan they’d probably have it so it does skip WW2
Honestly, it’s a shame they pulled the plug on this entire concept. I’d love to go on an attraction themed entirely around the Disney villains scaring the shit out of you, it’s a super unique and cool idea. If it was handled better it might’ve been more well received and maybe even made its way to America
I'd LOVE that too, done WELL, and they could even have the heroes (not the princesses, the HEROES) as the tour guides as they lead you into trouble!
That was the beauty of this attraction. It was the only one in the world that featured villains.
@@TheTiktok4321 I love it for that, and I WISH there was one with all of them from the Evil Queen to Scar with the heroes (not the princesses, the GUYS) having to band together to defeat them! It could totally be a walk-through attraction that's also a stage show with the characters...or it could just have animatronics, that would probably be creepier and more effective.
@@jemofthe80s18 I think if you'd want a reskin of this actual style, the ideal 'guide' character would be Gaston, who'd absolutely lead a group in through a villains' lair and not see a problem with that until something goes wrong (that's basically the climax to Beauty and the Beast, after all). I could also see Aladdin working from a perspective of 'have the thief show you around where the bad guys hang out', but I think Gaston fits a more general aesthetic better. As well as being a lot of fun to play around with as a character, and a really good counter to how scary such a ride could be.
OH...I think I can picture that. Aladdin would definitely be undercover who isn't a bad guy because he's NOT one (man, that movie--any Muslim could've told them what happens to people who mistreat poor orphans as well as what it actually means to be a thief) but is the one who saves the day. Only Gaston is in charge who doesn't take orders from anyone but himself and would let everyone else die as long as he gets out okay and as the hero...that's the tour I'D like to see.
Dude... working as the Myster Tour guide must have been EXHAUSTING. The sprinting, the screaming, the entire plot summary of Black Cauldron, the sword, the medal the inevitably traumatized child gets... they better have been paying those ladies well.
Spoiler: they weren't.
@@m1rac1e I think you'll find Japan has far stronger rules with wages than the USA.
@@MrStGeorgeIllawarra isnt japan the country with the worst work life balance and highest suicide rates
@@m1rac1e Isn't the USA the country where teenagers perform mass murder on their own classmates?
@@MrStGeorgeIllawarra hush now children yall both suck
[horned king’s speech begins]
“oh this isnt even that ba-“
*S A T A N*
fucking same
_" h a h a h a "_
My exact thoughts lol
Bro me too lmao
I know really I don't recall hearing Satan in the lines in the black cauldron
As traumatizing as this must be, I’m imagining some small kid very afraid of the experience being given the sword of light and doing the whole shebang and afterwards thinking “I… I did it!” and having an insane confidence boost from defeating the Horned King and getting a medal and being a big hero and stuff. That would have to be one of the most awesome, uplifting feelings ever.
I feel this is a big thing people miss from any dark or gothic material.
In most stories like this, the whole damn point is to find the "light in the darkness" and come out on top despite the gloom but everyone just hyper focuses on the setting or antagonist and how "terrifying" they are and denounces it as bad based on that. This is what made shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog so great; it scared the piss out of kids, sure, but it taught some very personal, close to the heart morals and was far deeper than anything we have today.
The Mystery Tour is probably one of my favorite examples of this effect working as intended because it scared the shit out of kids, sure, but it also taught them that they could conquer that fear through courage.
Most of them no doubt probably grew up to love horror movies and monsters later on and are subjecting their kids to this same stuff.
@@Impalingthorn Well, you have a point in saying that, but let me also say that I believe there is such a thing as going overboard. Like, I've read some tales, seen some things, the like, where there was a happy ending but the stuff that led up to it was so disturbing I was basically too shook or depressed to even appreciate it.
There've even been one or two times where I felt insulted to an extent, as if the happy ending were less a satisfying conclusion and more of a hand wave, as if it were an insult to anyone who couldn't handle the dark stuff and not anything to lift one's spirits.
And guess what? That threshold is different for everyone, and it's not a one dimensional axis either.
Know what I mean?
Funny because that's actually what a lot of haunted houses usually accomplish with adults. If they're done right, they can give us the confidence and motivation we need to push ourselves beyond a limit we didn't think was possible. I can definitely see a lot of kids being scared by this then coming back and going "U know what? I wanna keep going."
right now, kids have an opportunity to face Kylo Ren -- not an animatronic, a living person -- and defeat him
there's absolutely a market for the opportunity to defeat Disney's darkest (mortal) villain
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The Horned King is the most powerful Disney Villain cause he managed to do something none of the others did: almost bankrupt Disney Studios.
And failed, to the world's everlasting regret.
Best villain ever cause it did something good
@@haylinpm8973 too bad the movie couldn't do the same.
@@gregzotter6189 it’s far better than the woke shit Disney releases now.
@@geeebuttersnap2433 they don't do that though, because they love to appeal to russia and china
I love the idea of a "hijacked" ride - it could have worked just as convincingly on a track ride by having a fake out part where the track is "supposed" to go one way, but the ride diverts to a track originally hidden to guests and takes them into the dungeons instead. Honestly concepts like this are disappointingly underutilised by Disney. You'd think with Haunted Mansion being so popular, they'd understand that going with interesting or unexpected concepts is much better and more unique!
With those new ride vehicles like the ones from Mickey’s Runaway Railway that could definitely work
I think if I understood your comment correctly, there's a ride similar to what you described! It's called Jurassic Park River Adventure, and can be found at Universal Orlando! It's a water based track ride, where park goers get into small boats and are taken on a tour through Jurassic Park. At one part of the ride, it seems as if the boat is going to continue on its "intended" path, but instead takes a left into the "restricted" section of the park, where hostile dinosaurs have escaped and are tearing everything to shreds. It goes from a relaxed water adventure through the scenic open-air dinosaur park with a calming over voice, to an escape through a closed-air facility with a person shouting over the comms! The end of the ride has a large T-rex - which appears as though it will eat the riders - before dropping them down a long slide. It's one of those splash rides that you only go on if you're willing to get wet. I remember going on it when I was younger (about 8 or 9) and being absolutely terrified because I thought that the ride had actually been thrown off track by the dinosaurs!
six flags over georgia monster mansion
@@janicekraken4700 I remember the level of commitment to trying to get a photo of the T-Rex right before the drop.
That's kind of how the story of Expedition Everest works. It's supposed to be a nice mountain train ride, the track is destroyed by the yeti, and then you go careening through the caves backwards. Pretty neat honestly
I love how the actual ride has nothing to do with Cinderella
Absolutely God damn nothing. It shouldn't be mentioned in the title.
that’s the point
@John-Paul Hunt what
@John-Paul Hunt Are you ok
@@SouthernBelleReviews ? That was the name of the attraction. What did you want him to do, make up a new name and pretend that's what it was called all along???
"Fellas, we're making a commercial about Disneyland Tokyo. What do you know about the Japanese?"
"Well, they're not buying our cars, that's for sure!"
"Perfect! Double down on it."
That’s because Japanese cars last way longer than American cars
breakingglass27 I’m surprised he didn’t say “They rove Disney rong time.” 🤦🏾♂️
@jeremy ray "What? NO! We programmed them NOT to mention the war! Why are they mentioning the war?!"
Tbh don't see the issue. It was just making jokes about topics relevant at the time.
Nicholas Sinard the issue is that they did it with the tokyo ad and not the american ads (unless they did and i wasn’t aware)
I would LOVE to do an English version of this. The idea of the castle having actual dungeons is so cool.
yess
same
They could actually make it to an "omni ride" like in the Pooh bear ride at tokyo Disney land or Mystery Mansion at Hong Kong Disney land
Yeah (gonna have to be in California since Florida has those pesky aquifers that would cause lots of water damage to the ride, though IDK how basements work in California so it might not work there either).
makes you wonder what the fuck Cinderella's problem is though. Or I guess her in-laws' problem. Did she throw her stepsisters and that fat mouse that almost ruined everything into the cauldron?
Okay, my family lived in Japan in the 90’s (military), and when we moved back to the states everyone thought I was crazy when I would say that Cinderella’s castle was scary. Thank you for letting me know that this wasn’t just a fever dream
Freaky!
Unrelated: Your hair and makeup are gorgeous. 🤘🏾🖤✨
@@LoveMyUnusual Creepy pervert.
Honestly, it sounds amazing
me halfway through ride: this is pretty cool, but not that scary
horned king: *YOU WILL BE SACRIFICED*
To satan mind you... In a mother fucking disney ride.
@@whoopingmuffin9700 Yeah I thought that one of Disney's main rules is that they don't bring religion into anything lol
@@cashwin45 Maleficent directly references hell in Sleeping Beauty. Not just spooky scary skeleton magic, mind, but rather *actual* hell.
It's kinda metal, honestly. If that dialogue is a direct translation from what the Horned King says, that's way more intense than anything I've seen in Disneyland, even the end of Mr. Toad. It's a shame to think that if they'd tried this same attraction here, American parents would almost certainly have been crying about their poor little angels being scarred for life.
@@kylefrank638 Yeah... but hell isn't part of a specific religion... it's a common belief that hell exists, in Greek mythology, Christianity, Judaism, etc. Satan is unique to Christianity.
I believe The Horned King's speech is swiped verbatim from Michael Eisner's dialogue to himself in the mirror each morning.
@Adrian Well he overspent on buying assets especially 20th Century Fox if he hadn't bought so much to the point where Disney is practically a monopoly they'd probably have been a bit more financially stable during this pandemic for at least a little bit more into the year.
Disney is evil
The Black Cauldron is probably my favorite Disney movie simply because I adore The Horned King.
This comment made me cackle aloud and interrupt my mom's tv show
there are tears coming out of my eyes
I want to exist in an alternate universe where Disney kept going with the Black Cauldron concept and eventually goes full death metal.
They could be- Disney reacquired the filming rights for the Chronicles of Prydain (from which the Black Cauldron is derived), two years ago. So odds are they're going to remake the film itself and/or possibly do the other books in the series in turn.
@@ravenf6 Well, they are doing Live Action reimaginings of their animated films. Black Cauldron, of all of Disney's animated films, could honestly use the Live Action treatment. It could certainly use it WAY more then, say, The Lion King -_-
Whenever I hear that idea, it reminds me of Metalocalypse.
Matt N yeah, I’d love an 80s nostalgia live action reimagining of the Black Cauldron like Princess Bride or Willow but with higher quality and modern technology... it would be fucking awesome
@@worrywirt You can't have better quality than Princess Bride or Willow today... it's all CGI crap and marketing bullshit.... They were and they still are cream of the crop.
* Disney: * We need an attraction here. Something that says “Cinderella”.
* Imagineers: *
How about, instead, we lure 5-year olds in with the promise of Cinderella and surprise them by sending them deep down into a secret wizard dungeon that doubles as satan’s hell portal to swordfight with a demon overlord who is trying to boil the human race alive in his sacrificial hell cauldron so he can plunge the earth into infinite darkness in accordance to Satan’s wishes!
* Disney: * .... Genius.
also said overlord is the scariest disney villain ever
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And then of course in my mind I'd be thinking I don't remember the story and Cinderella going like this.
Disney: lol, have an Isekai adventure, kids!
Sora: uh sir, This is a Wendy's
After seeing the horned king animatronic I have come to the conclusion that I must have it.
unfortunately, unlike buzzy, he is not currently left alone and out in the open for anyone to take.
@@ihatemyname2816 thats just what a quitter would say
@@applesKIWISbananas well if National Treasure taught me anything
While the black cauldron had a lot of issues... the horned king is still the most terrifying and my personal favorite disney villain
*I'm gonna get it first. O-O*
the Japanese Disney commercial is like something out of a Family Guy joke or something
I agree. It's like a parody, except back then it was normal to say those things.
@Aspiring Marauder same luck as ameicans admitting the rape and wrong doing on the middle east, africa or any latin country they where set to protect
@Aspiring Marauder i know it isnt just whites ruining everything, come on, rwanda, myanmar, boko haram, china, the modern slave trade. My point was that every country tries to cover what they did, until they cant do it anymore
you must not know dick about starkid workin boys. -I legit have nothing to say except that-
My thoughts exactly. You do that today, a shit storm of gigantic proportions is coming your way.
"The guide then describe’s the film’s plot… an integral part of the spiel considering that no one watched the film."
;__;
Oof
You were spill
I hope he means those in Japan, because I want to give him a BIG “F you” for saying that.
I really liked it as a kid......
@@anonymousanonymity2815 same, it's one of my favorites
*The animators did exactly what was asked of them, re-did it to make some dude happy, and animated one of the most technically impressive animated movies of their time.*
Disney: "Yeah let's fire all the animators it's probably their fault somehow."
I don't think it was about fault, in fact, that might have actually worked against them there. They made a really cool movie and put a whole lot of effort in, but it was still a flop, despite all that. Corporate saw that the animation studio just wasn't pulling it's weight, so they thought about pulling the plug.
@@shreddedyeet corporate demanded that the movie be cut down, maybe the movie would've actually been successfull if it wasn't amputated that late into production.
Honestly, as much as I will always dislike the movie for butchering one of my favorite book series of all time (seriously, read "The Prydain Chronicles" by Lloyd Alexander--they're damn good and really sophisticated for a middle-grade children's series), I don't blame the animators at all. There were a lot of extremely talented people working on the movie, including '90s renaissance hotshots Andreas Deja and Glen Keane. For the direction and script they were given, the animation is actually pretty great, and a lot of the concept art is fascinating. I just wish they weren't trying to stuff two different books into one movie. :P
@@amiefortman7220(I know I'm late but) I've never heard of this film and the animation looks absolutely beautiful. It feels like maybe it was more of a plot issue, which is annoying because animators aren't writers. Not that they *can't* write, but they shouldn't be expected to if they're already spending 40hrs/wk animating. It sucks how everyone wants to blame the artists when animated films go sideways cause most of the time it is definitely not their fault
can we also talk about how katsenburg reportedly literally tore out large chunks of the movie? the reason why the film feels so bizarre and disjointed is because so much of the plot was removed and the last year of production was spent trying to redo as much as possible (which is also why some scenes look grainier/have strange colours compared to others)
Although honestly I think a lot of the animators probably just quit after this film - Tim Burton worked on it and cited the experience as the reason he gave up on animating
That racism was so casual it walked into work with jeans and a t shirt on Friday
Steamed Clams hahahahahahaha this comment is way too underapprciated
That’s how things were, it’s just the way it was.
@@krislupi66 a reason, but never an excuse.
It wasn't really racist... It was more jovial in tone.
LMFAOOOOO
My girlfriend actually went on this ride when she was a kid back in 2002. She said it was the closest thing to a Kingdom Hearts ride she has ever seen
If Iger had had the sense to use Disney's existing IPs instead of just buying everyone else's, we'd probably already have a Kingdom Hearts attraction by now (or maybe even its own land!)
@@Viking_Luchador that would have to go through Square enix. They originally had a (very scary) Sora walk around costume but that was only to promote Chain of Memories. There is no themed land for it yet.
I know there isn't. That was my point.
Young Tetsuya Nomura on the ride: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!
Honestly, I'm surprised Black Cauldron hasn't shown up in KH
Coming soon: Disneyland New York, programmed not to mention 9/11.
Disneyland Rio de Janeiro,
Progamed not to mention 7x1
LMAO
Or Disney's Waco, TX attraction where it has no mention of the Branch Davidians and David Koresh.
Ufff a ride in where you are in one of the plains
Yeah why would you want to mention it in a fun theme park ride?
This actually makes sense as a Japanese attraction. As far as I understand, lots of Japanese adolescents love a good test of courage during summers and camps, so it works as a concept. Yes, it’s a little extreme for the younger children, but that’s why it’s great to have it as a group attraction in this case.
Ghost stories are also a much more significant part of Japanese culture than the west.
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@@Hannah_The_Heretic ,,,,do you feel good about yourself. Does mentioning japanese generational trauma make you genuinely laugh out loud
@@warnegoodman that's kind of what I was thinking, although I'm american so I can't speak definitively on it. Different cultural norms and whatnot, americans are very Afraid of spirits in general
@@warnegoodman
Definately yes! Japan is notorious for creepy!
I remember this nightmare attraction when my parents took me in 1988 (I was 6). I cried the whole way through and thought the only reason I was chosen to defeat that scary ass demon, was the guide thought I was legit traumatized...and I was. Thanks for putting this together. Good to know I didn’t make up this crazy experience!
sugaisun Do you still have your medal?
You're a hero!
I cried on the Snow White's Haunted Castle ride in Orlando and buried my head in my mom's shoulder the entire time...I was 15...
@SublimeHawk6 I'm a wuss. I'll own that lol
Animatronics freak me out.
I hope you have the medal still.
“Programmed not to mention world war 2”
I can’t tell what’s real and what’s satire anymore
That was newsreel in the 80s.
And here's how we bombed Hiroshima kids! soo cool huh?!
@@Hannah_The_Heretic "Alright kids, nuking civilians was a shitty move, but have you heard about the Rape of Nanking?"
Also "eating it up like rats" like holy shit--
@@AdamOfIngolstadt *rice
Damn that Defunct Hell song was genuinely great.
"Now most of Six Flags is down there"
WHO DID THIS I NEED THIS IN MY SPOOPY HALLOWEEN PLAYLIST
Yes the lyrics are great but did anyone else notice that the tune sounded like "Monster Mash"?
@@gregbrockway4452 yeah, I thought I'd recognized it. Wasn't sure though
We require a standalone video for the song
Saw this while I lived in Japan. Hands down my favorite attraction. It felt like a secret tour we stumbled on because no one was waiting in line for it. Even though my mom didn't speak Japanese and couldn't understand she really enjoyed it as well.
And here's how we bombed Hiroshima kids! soo cool huh?!
@@Hannah_The_Heretic Get a life!
@@Hannah_The_Heretic ? Huh
@@Hannah_The_Heretic you really want people to laugh at your joke huh
Are we not gonna talk about the folder names in the opening:
"Finale Ideas" "Sick Eisner Roasts" "Pictures of Wax Museum Brad Pitt" "Misc."
ah yes, the four genders
Misc scares me the most
Any other kid who is chosen to defeat the Horned King: *Screaming and crying*
That one kid who played Legend of Zelda and Kingdom Hearts: "It's like, I was born for this..."
man fuck chernabog
Also that kid; pulls out ocarina and furiously plays it at the horned king
It's funny because, both The Black Cauldron and the original Legend of Zelda came out at around the same time and both feature green tunic wearing heroes, a blonde princess clad in purple and pink, and evil king/wizard.
I was chosen when I visited (being from America) and it was dope. I did feel that too, was like "bring it on..."
@@RedQueenCreative_Roxie
Woah that's awesome!
I went though this, I was maybe 5 years old. My family was stationed outside Tokyo on an Air Force base. I held the sword at the end of the ride, it was terrifying! What you didn’t see was the apparitions around the horned king flying out the cauldron which made the experience that much scarier. Oh! And the friggin sword they gave you to thwart the villain lit up and vibrated like crazy. Thank you Tokyo Disneyland for that expreiace/ trauma. 😂
wow man, that’s amazing and unbelievable (yet pretty believable) that you went through the tour alone at age 5 in the late 80’s early 90’s (?) just a different time back then that’s for sure, and yes you were amazingly brave to make it through at age 5. i’m guessing that your parents talked w the guide and a few other adults before ? wow alone through that at age 5 is just amazing. really up until maybe 13-14y/o would be really really scary I’d imagine...
I share the same trauma! I visited Tokyo Disney when I was 6 and my dad insisted on taking me on the tour because he thought it was a princess castle tour. I had a terrible feeling from the beginning for no reason and kept asking my dad to leave the line with me, but he kept assuring me it would be okay for an hour. I thought maybe I was overthinking it when the guide brought us to the castle doors, but then I looked up and saw the Magic Mirror in like the tiniest form possible. I begged dad again and he said it was just a regular mirror. HE WAS WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING! Little me couldn’t comprehend that all of it was fake and was 100% convinced we were going to die during the room with the Horned King because the skeletons below reassembled themselves and their empty sockets glowed red. I remember frantically trying to figure out how to fight them until the hero stepped in. No small child should be subjected to the stress that this attraction brings when you don’t understand any Japanese omggggg. This was in 2001 or 2002.
At one point we’d see other cast members in the dungeon and I was like YES WE’RE SAAAAVED! Someone is here to help us! But they didn’t move at all (I’m guessing they’re just cast members that make sure guests don’t do dumb things in a dark and narrow tunnel.) so I thought they were possessed. Little 6 year old me was very stressed and kept thinking of various escape and/or kill plans.
you still have your hero medal?
@@drewfinn2 I think Japan is considered a lot safer for kids to be alone compared to America. Human trafficking is a smaller risk there and everything is generally more orderly, especially back in the 80’s
"the guide then describes the film's plot, an integral part of the spiel considering no one watched the film"
that was way funnier than it needed to be lmao 💀
It's so sad how badly Disney has treated The Black Cauldron. Fans have been begging for a decent home release (especially with the deleted footage restored) for decades. Just today it was announced that there is a blu-ray box set of every Disney animated feature up to 2018 for the holidays BUT there is a little asterisk stating that The Black Cauldron wouldn't be a blu-ray but an old DVD (which itself was probably an old laserdisc transfer). So instead of getting a proper transfer or even just an HD transfer, the movie gets shafted once again. And the worst part is, the Black Cauldron was the only other Disney animated movie made for 70mm besides Sleeping Beauty. It would benefit the most from a proper restoration/transfer compared to any other post-Sleeping Beautry feature when Disney switched to cheaper techniques.
If I were Disney I'd do the exact same to a movie that nearly destroyed my company.
THEY'RE DOING EVERY FILM EXCEPT TBC?!?! JFC I'M GONNA KILL DISNEY
That movie sucks anyways :|
MrTBoneSF loved the movie a child and may have been one of the only people to see it in the theater jk. I wasn’t scared at all and found sleeping beauty scarier. I rewatched it last year and it’s still good and would love to see those missing 10 minutes
Well, Disney is planning on doing a reboot. Hopefully, if it does better, they'll start acting like TBC exists.
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The mirror face and character that walked around were actually the perfect blend of Japanese sensibilities onto a US character. The mirror in fact looks like a guy with a kabuki mask on--or at least with face paint quite like it. It is almost more amusing and clever to me than it is terrifying.
I wish you had the Japanese audio in here, I would love to know if the mirror talks with a dramatic air, like you would expect going to see kabuki itself.
I guess this is why I don't get why they couldn't get a Japanese actor for it. With such heavy makeup, they could have found a Japanese person with the right face.
Looked like No Face from Spirited Away! ☻
@@notdarrell yeah it does!
It looks japanese
And here's how we bombed Hiroshima kids! soo cool huh?!
Unlike a lot of other defunct rides covered on this channel, this one sounded like a really high quality attraction. Would make for an amazing seasonal attraction during autumn.
It's awesome they give a presumably horrified child the chance to banish one of the most evil demonic forces in Disney history. That's something you'd never forget.
I wonder how much they bothered to remove from the ride after it was closed? I like to think that the Horned King and his un-dead army are still down there, plotting their revenge...
I like to imagine the Horned King is just partying it up downstairs under the name of DJ Dead-beats; laying down some maleficent jams for all those crypt crawlers, shaky shamblers, and baleful bailarínes. They've all had a bad case of brain rot, so he's teaching them how to live a little with his wrathful rhythm.
I hope I'm not the only person that uses maleficent as an adverb.
@@gregorymckenzie7511 I guess dubstep never dies :P
They had to install new bracing to make the castle stable. That meant no room to leave Black Cauldrons or characters behind
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Aww, bummer.
Maybe they used the horns for bracing? ;)
Me and my family got to go to this attraction when I went to Tokyo Disneyland. I had no idea it closed down! People really missed out!
Now pretty much the only unique stuff there is going to get sea salt ice cream, stealing the room keys from the hotel, and then leaving to go to the Square Enix store in Tokyo because that’s where all the Kingdom Hearts merch that you don’t have to steal is
@@phoenixfritzinger9185 😭 HOW DID IT TAKE UNTIL TODAY FOR ME TO PROCURE THIS INFORMATION
@@phoenixfritzinger9185 imagine still playing overwatch
@@davrellmylkajowkins833 hey ):
“That casual racism is scarier than any jump scare I could come up with.” I love you, Perjurer.
it's racist to want your country's companies to outperform another country? Ok, sure.
What was racist about it?
@@pmtcommenter393literally nothing at all idk why he said that
@@LezSpringfield "Eating it up like rice" seems pretty insensitive to say the least
@@ethereal231 whats so bad about eating rice
“That casual racism is scarier than any jump scare I could come up with.” Couldn’t have put it better myself.
Laura Klotz right?!
@whatisreality01 Grow up and stop screaming, child. Hopefully, you'll gain some wisdom by adulthood.
whatisreality01 the fact she referred to you as a child was her pointing out how immature you are, not inferior. shut up lmao
It’s really up to interpretation, as rice is the most popular food in Japan and has been for a long time.
It wasnt even racist, it funny lol
Such a shame when fun stuff like this gets removed from theme parks. I’d have liked to experience this one.
Not to mention Walt Disney liked scary stuff
Yeah
Yeah sounds pretty fucking metal to me
Me too
TK Crossdive same. Most people are boring, this looks cool as hell
Being the kid who got to hold the sword and be the hero sounds like it must have been the closest anyone could get to living a classic adventure, which the horror must have really strengthened like it does in eighties adventure movies. Usually. I'm unimpressed with Disney attractions that seem like safe and straight forward entertainment spots, while everyone lauds it all as the most magical place on earth (which is really sad if that's the case). But with an attraction like this ,any kid who got to go through that must have actually felt like they were experiencing magic.
Craig Trautman jr so so true...you're comment is under-appreciated
You should look at the place called Evermore out in the Midwest of America!
honestly ive ended up liking universal much more... they got something for everyone... the scary, the gentle, and the magical... Disney has fallen from grace lately and its not really "magical" outside of a few rides and all the good rides have pretty much left anyways...
Join a mystery school.....
@@squidmcinks9537 Universal>Disney
god I admire this ride so much. from the lack of overt announcement that it will be scary, to the reliance on live performance to carry guests through it, to the use of characters and story elements from a lesser known but quite interesting little film for its basis, it's all just so good. If Disney did more shit like this I'd be way more interested in going!
I would have loved it as a kid. Heck, I'd be into it even now.
P R O G R A M E D N O T T O M E N T I O N W W 2 4:52
Turtle ofPride YIKES
I literally cringed, now that was spoopy
Yeah that one made me wince
What happened to China between 1937-1945. We were invited for tea it was nice... no rape, no massacres, certainly didn't kill almost 22 million people
We among other things. We're invited to have tea with the English in Hong Kong,Mayla,Burma and India. And totaly not force Obi Wan Kenboi to build a Railroad.
The Black Cauldron is the one Disney movie I wouldn’t mind seeing being remade into live-action.
much like chowder's face
That’ll be cool and bring the classic animation back and bring the merchandise
Nah just keep it as animation stop encouraging shitty live action reboots those never work out and everything looks corny asf but due to how everything is nowadays in society it'll just be sjw garbage with forced diversity, gender swapped roles for no reason, and much more shit so in other words FUCK NO :D
Someone's not having a very good 2018.
So naturally, it will be the only Disney movie to not be remade into live-action.
"Sick Eisner Roasts"
"Pictures of wax museam Brad Pitt"
This guy has his priorities in order.
That was a sick Black Cauldron roast at 11:44 as well. "An integral part of the spiel because *no one watched the film."*
now googling wax museum brad pitt
well, it looks like brad
@@SmaMan That one just came off as mean-spirited. After all, The Black Cauldron actually was quite popular in Japan.
I don't recall the Brad Pitt thing. What video were you watching? There was only one Eisner roast in this one. Katzenberg was roasted more.
jacoblgames 00:09, top right corner
“The fairy tale hall fits the theming and tone of Cinderella’s castle better than Mystery tours did”
You know what? Yeah. Why does Cinderella have a dungeon in her castle??? 😂
Weird kinky things
@@sephikong8323 remember, Cinderella didn’t build this castle. Her in laws did…might just be a worse thought ngl poor Cinderella
In case the plebes get uppity. Why else?
@@NotOurRemedy Lmao oh shit 🤣
She might be a Disney heroine, but she's still an absolute monarch.
It's weird that they thought the magic mirror would be unrecognizable if he was played by a Japanese actor. The mask-face is kinda ethnically ambiguous anyway, but the makeup they put on the actor looks almost like kabuki theater stuff...I don't think under all that facepaint the ethnicity of the actor is very recognizable. And honestly...if I'd seen a picture of that makeup job out of context it would not have been immediately obvious to me that it was supposed to look like the mask in the Disney movie.
I find it weird that they used a live actor. Even when Hans Conreid did it in the Disney Christmas special in the fifties, it was disturbing. The mask figure is so brilliant and effectively "Disney" that a live actor makes it go "off-model." The castle tour could have easily animated it with the tour guide acting in time to it. Then it could have had all the effects added too.
Lisa Jonasson Yeah, I would not have guessed it was the magic mirror from Snow White. Maybe they just wanted to make him look more Japanese, so they made him look more kabuki theater instead of Snow White?
I don’t know why they didn’t animate it. I guess Disney America couldn’t do lip syncing for Japanese, or maybe Disney Japan had limited animating capabilities?
I was one of the few kids that actually liked The Black Cauldron, this ride would’ve been amazing for me
Same here. One heck of a very underrated yet unique movie. By Disney standards of course.
same it was such a good movie spite the plot being a little wack
Same here
I saw the ads, it was curious why each character had an "ouch" moment... Why put that Ina trailers?
this was my favourite movie growing up. i would rent it from blockbuster every week, my parents eventually asked if they could buy the copy cause i would keep taking it out haha
"While the band plays on, Japan is eating it all up like rice."
Like Holy shit dude?!
OMFG! Really?!? Yeah I can't believe i just heard that.
America is eating it up like big Macs. Canada is eating it up like poutine. Israel is eating it up like falafel. Turkey is eating it up like doner kebab. France is eating it up like crepes. Germany is eating it up like bratwurst. Pakistan is eating it up like biryani.
@@ac2496 lmao “It’s not racist if it offends everyone!”
@@UC95mhG_3gy5GpQmB0kFf_Gg That’s fair enough.
I just disagree. The idea that all Asians eat rice is a stereotype that has been used to degrade people. I personally believe that generalizing stereotypes made towards one race by another are just as racist as slurs.
It’s basically the same as saying that they all look the same to me.
Again, though. I can see your reasoning, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
@Michael Ok, that’s fair enough, but as I’ve said already, this is a manner of opinion. Nothing you say is going to change it and nothing I say is going to change yours.
So let’s just drop it.
I like how the mirror looks like the way they do makeup in Kabuki, traditional Japanese theater. Always appreciate how Japan uses its culture in creative ways, so that you don’t even realize you’re encountering it until you learn about it.
Not to pile on another generic compliment, but your channel is genuinely one of the best on UA-cam. The meticulous research, the fascinating subjects, and just the right amount of humour. Thanks for all your hard work.
And most importantly actually post videos frequently
Oh geez, that tokyo disneyland commecrial sure is... something.
Fun fact though: Osamu Tezuka, creator of Astro Boy and Kimba the White Lion, was actually a major Disney fan and much of anime's big-eyed art style that Tezuka popularized comes from him watching Bambi over 80 times in theatres as a kid.
Kid? Tezuka was 23 when Bambi came out in Japan (he still watched it more than 80 times though).
@@Painocus 23 _is_ a kid.
@@brettvv7475 Especially back then that's an adult. "young" would be more accurate to say
Oh my GOD. I went on this when I was like 3 or 4 or something and only remembered tiny bits of it and always thought it may have just been a crazy fever dream. The light up sword is what I remember the most. It was real!
And here's how we bombed Hiroshima kids! soo cool huh?!
@@Hannah_The_Heretic bro what?
@@dexterjettster2746 4:41
I actually loved the Black Cauldron. I liked that it was a Disney movie that was darker and more mature, something you want as you grow older. I also learned years later that the Horned King was voiced by the legendary John Hurt, which makes me love the film more. I do know and understand the flaws of it, but I like it and I like that they built an attraction around it. The Horned King is a scary and badass villain
Same. It’s one of my favorite Disney movies of all time. Horned King is one of my favorite villains. Wish they had this attraction still. I would love to go for the first time. Also never been to Disney parks and want to go
This seems like one of the coolest attractions Disney has ever done, and I am sad that I missed getting to see it by just a few short years. I wish it was still active when I went to Tokyo Disney.
And here's how we bombed Hiroshima kids! soo cool huh?!
@@Hannah_The_Heretic what
"Japan's eating it all like rice."
WOW that will definitely not fly by with today's cultural standards
It’s kinda funny actually - even though the line can be seen as (and probably was intended to be) racist, Rice is the most popular food in japan, and to extent most Asian countries
Cedric Dungo i wanted to laugh at it but it felt wrong and I ended up coughing
It feels really racist and yet I can't come up with a logical explanation why it should. 🤔
Cedric Dungo weren’t you paying attention? It didn’t fly by yesterday’s cultural standards either. The only difference is the groups complaining about it have changed.
Wow. I wasn't expecting this to blow up.
It's not even that I was offended it was just that I was amazed at how casual it was.
Am I the only one that feels like the Black Cauldron could be remade as a badass metal musical.
Nope, I think that would be amazing!
I would pay good money to see metal Black Cauldron. They should have Candlemass do the music!
I would watch the shit out of that 😁
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@@axelblack2073 hell yeah man Candlemass is amazing and I think that kind of epic doom metal would fit the film well.
That’s pretty incredible to build a company where, even after you die, the biggest arguments for the direction of the company’s projects are over what you would’ve wanted. And then the resolution being that they literally can’t match the innovation brought, so the philosophy becomes “turn the imagination up to 11”
No way! That’s me at 8:13! Didn’t expect to see myself on defunctland 😂
you are now official defuncted ! :D
Mind telling us what it was like to be a tour guide of a ride then? I'm assuming you were referring to the lady doing that tour.
It's definitely a dude at 8:13
It was panning between the two peeps so I couldn't tell. Still the question still stands either way.
Congrats!
When I was a kid me and my dad went to see the Extraterrorextrial ride, and mistook it as an E.T themed ride, I never fully recovered from the trauma...
I was 12 and my dad took me. I was obviously terrified. He was even scared! That was intense!!
Having it be an ET ride would make it more terrifying to a young me.
A girl had a full on panic attack when I was on it, they had to temporarily shut off the ride, all the lights went on in the middle of it and after she was escorted out it continued again. Made it even more intense. She was screaming bloody murder.
Just be glad they didn’t have a ride based on Invaders From Mars.
OMG, there are adults out there that would have had a heart attack if it were E.T.!
Holy shit the shade in that tokyo disneyland trailer
nockels sez right?!?? Wow.
“The casual racism is scarier than any jumpscare I can come up with”
What shade? What racism? If the animatronics are programmed to not mention world war 2 then you lot are programmed like good NPC's to find racism in everything. Acknowledgment that a different race or culture _is a different race or culture_ is not racism. Acknowledging that Japan doesn't need/want American cars is not racism. "Eating it all up like rice" is not racist. Asians eat a lot of rice. Rice is a base food in Asia just as pasta is in Italy. It's a factual statement. My Chinese friends eat rice for 90% of their meals. It is not demeaning, nor is it meant to be. De-program yourselves from your idiotic madness.
@@UnitSe7en Someone is triggered
@@ilyaakadishtungha7337 Someone needs something productive to add else they may as well not be here.
@@UnitSe7en Because ranting at random people on the internet is productive. Lmfao.
I love that the mirror dude's face is painted similarly to the style of Japanese kabuki theater masks.
I noticed that too! It's really neat!
I REALLY want Disney to do something like this again. Particularly with the whole villian theme. Perhaps not quite this dark but I don't think you can appreciate the magic as much without some horror to balance it. As a small child, I was terrified by the Monstro animatronic in Pinnochio's Daring Journey but I went on that ride every time I went to Disney because the scares make the happy endings that much more enjoyable. This constant fluff we're starting to see all the time is a little disappointing.
I agree, Disney needs to embrace the popularity of their villains more than they currently do. A series of "what-if" fanfiction novels isn't enough.
I agree. The dark stuff is just as artistic and creative. I wish I could have experienced this ride because it seems so immersive.
well hkdl does haunted houses, so maybe this one will make its way there someday
@@warriorseamonkey1693 Yeah! I watched a video FastPass Facts did about those and was super surprised. I think the only way that would work in the states is to have it be a special ticketed event. Like Mickey's Halloween Party. That way parents would be less likely to get confused and traumatize their children. I would totally pay to have a disney version of a halloween horror nights type experience with disney villains.
Went to a Dutch fairytale themepark... it had people encounter death and tragedy about as much as magic and wonder. Because people die just as often as they live happily ever after in fairytales.
"Saying the most terrifying anything to ever appear in a Disney ANYTHING." The Horned King should get a medal for THAT!
As always, defunctland is made with so much professionalism, love, and care. This is the best series on this website, and it is better than anything on tv. Great job Kevin
Seriously. This channel really shows the beauty of UA-cam. A show like this would never be on an actual station, but I am learning about so many awesome things. This is also the kind of subject matter, due to copyright and all that, that would be hard to put together into some kind of publishable format. It's also hard to get information and decent pictures from a lot of these things and he puts it all together so well.
4:41 this entire commercial is a bruh moment
No, it's actually a backhanded show of respect. America in the 1980s was paranoid that the Japanese had replaced them at the world's superpower, so the casually racist banter is a sign that America considered Japan as a potential equal. It's like how every passive-aggressive comment made by Europeans at the expense of Americans is made out of insecurity at American power and influence.
@@darkfool2000 Well said. The "they aren't buying our cars, but gobble up our culture" is a tacit and fraternal admission of defeat in one field and a tongue-in-cheek boast in another.
i thought it was a parody at first
@@lycaptain it's definitely satire made for a culturally callous audience. probably a racist writer. i reckon it's more self-aware than people think.
@darkfool2000
It's still racist
THE BLACK CAULDRON DEMANDS MORE BODIES
jesus christ lmao
zelel And the floor is literally scattered with bodies in skeletal form.
zelel you wont be
I thought The was going to say that they started moving, that would be terrifying!
*f o r k i d s*
No not jesus
Satan
If they tried to remake this, they would HAVE to put warning signs everywhere. There is no way a “mystery tour” would fly now without having to ruin the mystery. I can just imagine all the little ones being too scared; there would be an army of upset parents on its opening day.
Agreed, however kids have to learn at some point what its like to be scared so they know how to cope. To echo something I heard in another video: kids have to know that being scared is not something to be ashamed of. That being said, when it comes to attractions like this, it depends on the maturity of the child, and I would also say that its up to the parents. If parents know that their kid wouldn't be able at handle the intensity of an attraction like this one then they shouldn't take their kid though it.
it ran until the 2000s dude that wasn't that long ago
Like all the parents who took their kid to see Deadpool, knowing good and well that it wasn't kid friendly, and throwing a fit afterwords.
It used to be the conservatives who were overly sensitive by entertainment products and the progressives ridiculed them for it for decades.
Now it's the other way around. What a bizarre world we live in. What happened to creative liberties and freedom of speech you guys fought so long for?
@@myman7589 noooo, it's still the conservatives
This...honestly sounds amazing and I'm really saddened that I'll never get to experience it. As unlikely as it is, I would be all over Disney bringing this back from the dead in some way.
I think an entire villian park would be a HIT. Imagine an evil castle and multiple villian areas. Disney's gotta do it.
YAAAS! I would love to go! I can imagine it. Oh how scary it would be dealing with them wanting to kill us and we have to defend ourselves eventually.
I love to meet every Disney villain. Even the ones that are very underrated and overlooked by many.
I would absolutely bloody love this!! Lots of creepy and scary rides would be amazing. Id love like a scary/thrilling underwater ride for Ursula/Captain hook. A creepy safari kinda ride for scar and the hyenas. There's honestly so much they could do,and I think it would be one of the most popular parks ever
@@jennikifm2 like my beloved Frollo
Boy do I have news for you 😂
When I was in high school, I went into this ride with my sister. I trusted Disney enough to know that it would be safe but the dark hallways and the creepy atmosphere scared the shit out of me. Cast members were standing in every corner with stern face to let the guests know which way to go. I screamed once when I was met with one of the cast members because it was just so dark. At the end one of the random guests would be chosen and defeat the dragon and would get a medal as a reward and I remember being so envious for that other kid who got chosen. I went back after 10 years and the ride wasnt there anymore. Now it has a cute walkthrough instead.
you didn't watch this video all the way through huh
Programmed not to mention WW2, lmao
@skullpull 101 YEAH. While I know the author of that joke was thinking of why Americans wouldn't want to talk about WW2, he's actually painfully accurately describing the way Japan deals with WW2 - by not talking about it. Both parties are like '...........................nah."
as if they have free will and needed to be specifically programmed to stay away from those topics
"[The Japanese] will be eating it up like rice." O.o Like, I know that the Disney company is no stranger to racism, but to mention something like that in an advertisement?
@@austinhinton3944 i busted out laughing, i love how blatantly racist those times were it's so ef'd up
That commercial really almost comes off as a parody
"They might not be buying our cars, but they are buying our culture" is the best line I've ever heard in an ad
so much butthurt
Honest to a fault lmao
dude55man tbh, they actually are buying our cars. Asia is the only market keeping Buick in business
@@orangecayman520 Correct! my extended family back in China owns Buicks and Fords, you can see many American cars in China.
It's the best by being the worst.
9:24 Not gonna lie, this part sounds absolutely badass
EDIT: Scratch that, this whole thing sounds fucking metal.
Idea: have a structure that does both rides. The Cinderella tour as the normal one and occasionally doing the dungeon one at random. People would line up expecting one but aware that they might get the chance for the spooky one. Would increase replayability too.
Agata Kołakowska I think it’d be wiser to give people the choice of which tour they want to do. Have two separate lines so they know which one they’re getting into. Kinda like Mission Space.
That might work at first but eventually people would probably get frustrated at not getting the experience they want. Especially having to wait in a line multiple times and a lot guests being tourists who have very limited time to spend in the park.
honestly if that cutesy one swerved into THE BLACK CAULDRON NEEDS MORE BODIES!!! it would be the greatest thing I've seen at a theme park since Universal Japan's Godzilla 4D showed Godzilla destroy my office building. The angry moms with traumatized kids would ruin it in a day though.
@@ssharkbait I think what they should do is have some kind of tag. I went to a haunting house that will give you red glowing collars to say that you want to have a much more scary experience by letting the actors be closer to you and even taking you in some areas that would make you go by yourself or with a couple of people. Essentially, you are choosing to aggro the "monsters" and expand your experience, while also, eventually, getting back to the same people that you started with.
Royalname31 that would make more sense! The workers could see who has a tag and lead them around the scarier areas and have both groups meet later after those parts! The line wouldn’t get held up and people could choose their experience.
I think the most important takeaway from this is:
There's a Horned King Animatronic. It may be stripped now, but hot dang. That's a crazy thing to see. Wonder if they could ever recreate it for another attraction? Most people don't know where the characters on Splash Mountain are from, I could see them using Black Cauldron characters for a future scary attraction if they wanted to push that envelop again. (And considering Tower of Terror, Alien Encounter, etc. they totally could.)
I'm pretty curious if that animatronic went somewhere else or is just rotting away in storage somewhere
Maybe if cartoon network ever gets a theme park, they could make an Adventure Time ride like this
Imagine if they did a water ride, they could make it look like the mouth of a tunnel is the caudron and park-goers just keep going into it. Throw some dry ice in there and you have yourself a cool visual. Then you put some dark-ride style attraction stuff before you 'escape' at the end and everythings fixed.
Its been so long since I've seen that movie I barely remember the plot--I'll have to read up on it.
That would be so cool. This movie holds such a special place in my heart.
I like to think that people are better off not knowing what Brer Rabbit is
THAT DISNEYLAND TOKYO AD WAS VERY
YIKES
I can actually see it on American Dad with Roger narrating it...
Jan Michael Vincent yikes that’s tough...
Minty Zed Grimes saying yikes while 100% being a furry
@@wasppaul3707 whats wrong with being a furry
Snivy Yoshiko Jesus Christ there’s more of them
Aww man, being a host on one of those immersive type rides is so fun but so tiring
I was a host for an immersive experience based on the Sherlock TV show and doing a show super early in the morning and super late and night was TOUGH. However when you've got an experience that has such strong tech elements its really easy to react to the things happening even though you've done it many times before
Wtf how was there an “immersive experience” based on bbc sherlock
"because no one watched it" oof
I LOVED this attraction!
Another reason for its discontinuance was the have that there was absolutely no way to make it accessible to guests with disabilities. At the time, the Jungle Cruise, Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes, and the Mystery Tour were the only attractions in the park that had no accommodations for guests with disabilities. Only the canoes remain with that distinction.
A great move towards progress and inclusivity. I felt nervous when he said there was stairs and hallways. A lot of people love the idea and story of this ride, but I hate to think of how many people missed out on it because of their disabilities.
Yes sometimes medical issues prevent riders, but just like heart warnings and height requirements, I don't feel it's fair to deny it to everyone.
Ideally you could make it accessible. I know it's another factor, another problem to the ride, and can close an attraction by law. I've done Disney by wheelchair. I know some rides struggle to to accommadate, but employees work hard to incorporate often incredibly inconvenient solutions the best that they can while keeping riders safe.
For instance:
[ The river rapids are the best example, first pausing loading to using the boat maintanence feature to give an unlimited amount of safe boarding time to groups who need it. They've now finally made a system that works well and they explain it perfectly while not risking other riders.
It's wrong to not try to include most people, but it's also unfair to take something from everyone, because a few people can't have it. ]
That's such a weird thing to do though. It's like saying, lactose intolerant people exist (esp. here in Japan), so we should stop selling ice cream entirely. If this was really a major factor, a much better option would be to add inclusivity - add ramps and such - and for the ice cream metaphor, sell non-dairy options like shaved ice or milk substitute-based ice creams...
@@cantfiteveryheart if you actually believed that, for even one single second, you wouldn't be cheering the fact that now *everyone* gets to miss out on it because people like you get angry if someone has something you don't.
And here's how we bombed Hiroshima kids! soo cool huh?!
"Programmed not to mention ww2" my god I cant
Our Friend the Atom goes to Nagasaki.
I cannot
This looks like it was awesome I'm also reminded that at one time Disney considered making " the dark kingdom" which would be a villain themed park (the consept art is floating around the internet it's castle would have been maleficent's from sleeping beauty) given twisted wonderland a Disney villain mobile game is quite popular currently I think they should reconsider axing the dark kingdom maybe even revive this ride for it!
I think that is insanely good theme for a Disney park: however, I don't know how you draw families v older crowds
well with the rise of disney adults, this would actually be wonderful! i know my edgelord ass would have loved something like that as a kid
Yeah this made me think of Twst too. Would love to see even a small portion of Tokyo Disney with a dark kingdom!
YES PLEASE!!
Better than all that Frozen and Star Wars crap they did built
5:09 "that casual racism was scarier than any jumpscare i could come up with" agreed
Gg
Jfc what is wrong with you people. Saying slurs isn't funny.
Cringe clowns have arrived to say racial slurs 🙄
it took 6 months but we fucking did it, reddit
I actually thought it was rather funny. It feels more like "all in good fun" banter than anything truly malicious. It's also a product of the 80s when Americans were paranoid that Japan had replaced them as the world's superpower (As seen in Back to the Future). It's also hard to condemn when everything said about Japan was true, and if those mild comments are "casual racism" then it's by far some of the most innocuous.
Of course Japan had the most amazing amusement park ride I've ever heard of, OF COURSE they did! We're getting the short end of the stick over here in the States...
The Netflix Knowhow yeah we are
And the best park, Tokyo DisneySea.
The fact that it's just called a "Mystery Tour" and then you get an evil demon talking about satan and sacrifices is amazing and kinda funny
Fun for the whole family!
@@danwalsh3406 attractions will never be that ballsy again
I went to this attraction with my family when I was 6, didn't understand a word they were saying but my parents did and urged me to went up and do the honor of course I was scared shitless. A Japanese kid of my age however went up and received his medal prize. I thought it was some kind of a fever dream till this day bc al most none of Disney yt channel mentions it.
4:53 "They're programmed not to mention ww2"
4:58 "They're eating it up like rice"
Damn 80s Disney was savage
More like news outlets, damn they were relentless
Damn I was like if they did that today my god 🤣🤣🤣 wont buy our cars but buy our culture yeah 80s Disney was super savage
I lol'd pretty hard when I heard him say that now. My Dad would've chuckled at it in the 80's and I would've been an oblivious kid
Disney had nothing to do with that news broadcast, they wouldn't even buy ABC until the 90s, if that was even an ABC clip.
5:07 _now if they only buy our chevrolets_
That face in the mirror looks like pazuzu from the exorcist
i really like how for 9 months people dont bother that gman commented on a defunctland vid
PAZUZU
@@maskmaskmaskmaskmaskmaskmaskma Probably because their audiences don't cross over much. You can also find Gman comments under old music videos, where he's gushing about how attractive he thinks the female singers are. I'm not joking, look up "Heart of Glass Music Video".
@@HOTD108_ Ok but who doesn’t think Debbie Harry is a gem?
If I'm not mistaken, The Black Cauldron was the first feature that Tim Burton worked on as an animator at Disney, and it was Don Bluth's last Disney feature.
Elizabeth Gowers Bluth had already left and release Secret if Nimh when Black Cauldron was released.
Burton did contributed for the Black Cauldron, but his concept artwork was largely ignored. However he was a key animator in Fox and the Hound and due to its happy nature he basically said "F-ck this" and left after making Vincent and Frankenweenie (the live action short). Bluth left before Burton, after Pete's Dragon made him quit.
The Indigo Bros. He should’ve eaten those words, because The Fox and the Hound turned out to be the most depressing Disney film.
LostDutchman Secret of Nimh was awesome
They were trying to sell the movie to small children, which was probably a mistake. The movie had an innocene in the beginning. The fox and the hound did not know they are suppose to be mortal enemies as kids. It is when they were adults they become mortal enemies. My little cousin that watch the movie with me had this sad look on his face like he was about to cry.
That walk around character is the most terrifying thing I’ve ever seen
The dialogue from the Horned King probably sounds really really epic in Japanese.
it would sound like an anime scene
ANIME
LUNA! But when it's in english, it just doesn't sound right..more...well...non-family friendly...and...DARK!!!
I don’t remember exactly but it was definitely scary
If that Horned King animation still exists, I want to own it. It's so badass...
Jesus christ, why can't Disney do more stuff like this?
ThInk Of tHe ChiLdRen
@@tostie3110 Fuck the children.
@Luuk de Wijse Who cares what the children think? They're just chicken.
I need that as my ringtone
@@berrybluebird3842 Hello, FBI?
Jeffrey Katzenburg: "The Black Cauldron is too intense and evil for kids!"
Also Jeffrey Katzenburg: "For Toy Story, let's make Woody the worst!"
to be fair, one is Katzenburg before all the Disney drama and the other is Katzenburg in full salt the earth mode.
Um what?
@@SouthernBelleReviews Which part are you confused on, the conflicting ideas Katzenberg have or the shift of perspective Katzenberg had?
@@SouthernBelleReviews Woody was a murderous asshole with no redeeming qualities and was completely unlikeable in the original concept for Toy Story. Obviously this would have destroyed any wholesome aspects of the film so his character was completely changed.
With all these live-action remakes happening at Disney, A live-action version of The Black Cauldron NEEDS to be one of them.
No, thanks !
That is the most metal badass thing I've ever seen in a Disney theme park!
I know this would be extremely impractical for the park to do, but I think it would be cool if you could do _either_ of the old Mystery Tour, or the new Castle Tour. Basically, you'd reach an impasse of some sort, the guide would become incapacitated, and two "identical" guides (one good, one bad) would come out of a wall or something. At that point, guests could decide for themselves if they want to explorer the depths of the dungeon with the "bad" guide, or stick to the above ground stuff with the "good" guide. It would give guests a reason to revisit the attraction later on, and give guests an option to avoid the scary stuff, if that's not what they wanted.
Again, I know it's super impractical, and logistically would probably be extremely hard to get to work, but I just think it would be so neat if guests got to feel like they had some real impact on the ride by choosing for themselves.
I think it would make more sense to start with a pair of guides, and simply have one who is more adventurous (and ventures down to explore the dungeons,) and one who is less adventurous (and takes you on the tour of the rest of the castle.)
Yes yes yes, that would be great! I'd love to go on a tour like that, it's a brilliant idea.
That’s a great idea
Didn't black cauldron gain a cult following?
A huge one, and is now hailed as one of Disney Animations underrated gems. But when it released in the 80's it did horribly at the box office and a lot of parents complained about the dark story and most notably The Horned King being too intense for young children.
no, only from this video
@tomyourmom I call bullshit, dont take it personal
@@bathumb45 yeah, that horned king fucked me up so much that I erased the whole movie from my memory
I was a huge fans of the books in that series. Really creepy but great humor as well.
Man, this attraction sounded really cool! Not only because it was like a haunted house, but because it went against expectations of the guests. I wish I could have experienced it!