I'm not a gamer, but the 2023 seems to be the best small tablet out there bar none. For someone who wants a device for media consumption, books, notes or even some productivity with the desktop mode, this is by far the most well-rounded package out there. The only ways it could be better is with a headphone jack and maybe an OLED display, but the latter would jack up the price... Either way, for what most people actually need from a small tablet, this seems to be the way to go! Maybe I'll wait another year and get the 2023 one hugely discounted.
I decided to get the Y700 2023. I mostly want to use it to play PS2 and below and the difference in performance is minimal for the price difference and I got a pretty good deal on the 2023 version. Having the micro sd card slot is a big advantage as well especially if you want to load it with games.
@@rayto8705Yes it can play PS2 but you have to load the PS2 roms on to the internal storage. When trying to play PS2 games from the sd card you will notice a micro stutter while playing. Everything else emulates perfectly including Gamecube.
I have the 2023 model, on balance performance mode, you can play all PS2 games at 3x stable, at performance mode you can go 4.5x but sometimes the simulator is limited, although you have surplus power, emulator cant really do 4.5x and FPS drops.
The Switch emulation, I was able to get 2x resolution running at full speed in some games for the 2025. I couldn't get the 2023 model to do full speed at 1x. Also, I'm able to get 25-60 fps, high settings, running FF7 Remake on Winlator with the 2025 model. For people that don't care about all of that and don't wanna spend the extra, I can see why the 2023 can be better along with the SD card slot.
I'd go with the one with SD card slot, I don't know why tablet or cellphone brands started to remove them even the headphone jack. Those hardware are very cheap and people love them.
Good call, you may want to try Winlator too for some serious Windows triple A gaming too. Is the version your ordered with an English rom? All I can find seems to have the Chinese Rom.
Same! Definitely gotta get the higher end model! I would have regretted getting the 12/256. This tablet can do so much with Winlator and everything else!
@@kadash977 chinese rom, but i know how to install google services with it. all phones i have used before are china rom. its why no problem for me since i have a bit of experience with installing google services on a china market android phone.
@@EdMitchell-e9c yes, aim for a TOTL variant. when buying a phone aim for the highest storage capacity. you might regret it later if you pick the base variant one. i once regretted buying a flagship phone that has only 256gb variant just to save 100 bucks fron 1TB variant. 256gb variant of this y700 cost $480, while 512gb cost $510. external sd card cost $50+ for a 512gb variant. so i have save money and has faster speed than external card when i buy this 512gb variant. but it would be nice to have external since i am used to save a lot of flac music to my device.
Hey all, y700 2023 owner here. For my main purposes and use case (home streaming from pc and PS5) che 2023 version is just perfect. When Winlator/Gamefusion will be stable, user friendly and consistent (soonish hopefully), I'm gonna need more power so I hope the next iteration of the y700 will have the Snapdragon Elite. For the time being I'm absolutely good with the 2023 model. My two cents
What's the skinny on swapping the ROM over to a native US version with Play support? I heard there was some sort of OTA update you could trigger direct from Lenovo
Keep the CN ROM. Most online shops come preloaded with the Play Store for you so you don't even have to do the work of installing it. Super easy to swap everything to English, haven't had a problem yet since Christmas when I got it
That's usually a setting to maintain battery health. You can turn it off if you're fine with getting your battery replaced sooner although I wouldn't recommend it
Have had the 2023 for about 3 weeks. Great purchase. I use it for everything. Reading is also great on it. Battery last a few days even with heavy video usage. In my case watching and episode of something before bed. I think ive charged it twice maybe 3 times since i got it.
Awesome Comparation video... Already got the accessories... Magnetic Case... Stylus... Screen protector... Another 1Tb Micro SD-card... Looking to snatche a 16gb ram / 512gb internal storage...of the Y700 2023 version... Any Day now... But I heard 2Tb micro SD card is already on the market... 🤔🧐🙃😎😁 Also, if you're adding Telescopic Controller ABXYLUTE S9 GAMESIR G8+ Kishi Ultra... My favorite... BsP D8 Bluetooth Controller ( Sky Black or Star Space White Edition) Which fits... Any PS-5 Portal Carrying Case... 🧐🤔
I'm new to the Legion ecosystem. I wasn't even really thinking about a new tablet until maybe a week ago. Fast forwarding to researching the best gaming tablets over a period of days and I landed on the y700 in terms of price and performance. I was trying to stay within a price range so it was either the 2023 at 16/512 or the 2025 at 12/256. I ultimately decided that I likely won't need (for the level of emulation and app store games I play) storage beyond 256GB and 12GB RAM is certainly sufficient. So I opted for the more up-to-date CPU. Your vids helped my with my decision making. Thanks!
any company can put the BEST hardware in a tablet.... but what really matters is the firmware updates, monthly updates and continued software support. lenovo.... lenovo is known for not doing this, sadly. and removing the sdcard slot on the new version just shows you the direction the company is going.
I have both gen 1 (2022) & gen 2 (2023) and they performed really well for my gaming needs until now ...i think it doesn't necessary to own this one yet since it's flaw such as no sd slot and the the huge branding on it's back.. hope next year would be better... 8 Elite perhaps and SD slot available 😊
It totaly different. God of wars 2 Ps2 2025 run at 4-5x at 50Fps 2023 run 2.5-3x at 50Fps Stray Switch 2023 little lag 2025 smooth Most of switch 2025 is a lot better. Moonlight 2023 Hevc 2025 AV1 very low ping.
I can also confirm that it has desktop mode. I haven't used it much but it's pretty nice. Also like how it can be quickly enabled right from the drop down menu in the quick settings.
These days it's not the hardware. It's the software availability. I have a iphone 6s plus which works fine. But no software updates. So practically it's 2usd per kg
I HAVE A LENOVO IN THE HOUSE BUT THE LENOVO WITH SNAPDRAGON GIVES THE GAME AND SMOOTH ALL THE BACKGROUND BUT THE SOCIETY OF SNAPDRAGON X-8 SUMMONING THE ZUI 5 PARTS ARE FOUNDING MY LAPTOP AND RESTART AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE WINDOWKEY ?? / I THINKS IT HACK
@@cyreaIa lot can be done with extra expansion,,,, for starter my comic collection alone almost 150 gb at this point,,, i use External only for the storage and internal only for the system and a game for smoother experience Especially the game size for PS2 3DS and Switch is nothing to scoff at,,, so extra storage is a blessing Everyone use their tablet for different purpose and having extra feature is always welcome
I use tachiyomi for comic and having almost 2000+ entry on my library I sometimes travel to places where internet is hardly available (i live in indonesia) so having my favourite comic and movie available in my tablet is important 😂
i know you r not asking me, but just for refrences, im playing wuthering waves on y700 2023 version, and it did consistently runs at 55-60 fps. maybe the 2025 version can run smoother
I'm not a gamer, but the 2023 seems to be the best small tablet out there bar none.
For someone who wants a device for media consumption, books, notes or even some productivity with the desktop mode, this is by far the most well-rounded package out there.
The only ways it could be better is with a headphone jack and maybe an OLED display, but the latter would jack up the price...
Either way, for what most people actually need from a small tablet, this seems to be the way to go! Maybe I'll wait another year and get the 2023 one hugely discounted.
Indeed...
🤔😎🙃
I decided to get the Y700 2023. I mostly want to use it to play PS2 and below and the difference in performance is minimal for the price difference and I got a pretty good deal on the 2023 version. Having the micro sd card slot is a big advantage as well especially if you want to load it with games.
Is it good enough to play any ps2 games? I don't mind playing at native resolution i just want to play ps2 games
@@rayto8705 Even a 5 year old chip (SD865) Can run most PS2 games at 2X reso. So that would be no issue to a device that has 8+ Gen 1 chip
@@rayto8705Yes it can play PS2 but you have to load the PS2 roms on to the internal storage. When trying to play PS2 games from the sd card you will notice a micro stutter while playing. Everything else emulates perfectly including Gamecube.
I have the 2023 model, on balance performance mode, you can play all PS2 games at 3x stable, at performance mode you can go 4.5x but sometimes the simulator is limited, although you have surplus power, emulator cant really do 4.5x and FPS drops.
Do u have the pen?
The Switch emulation, I was able to get 2x resolution running at full speed in some games for the 2025. I couldn't get the 2023 model to do full speed at 1x. Also, I'm able to get 25-60 fps, high settings, running FF7 Remake on Winlator with the 2025 model. For people that don't care about all of that and don't wanna spend the extra, I can see why the 2023 can be better along with the SD card slot.
Thanks for the review ❤ I'm waiting for this comparison
This was a great video
I do wish the Lenovo Legion Y700 had and LTE/5G model, then it would be perfect
Get an lte dongle, problem solved. Ive been using one for ages (huawei e5785)
@ISBE91 what kind of dongle your using?it is the lte wireless usb dongle?
@@SundayMorning-ng9kc its a standalone "portable wifi" with an internal battery, my bad for calling it dongle. It supports LTE bands
I'd go with the one with SD card slot, I don't know why tablet or cellphone brands started to remove them even the headphone jack. Those hardware are very cheap and people love them.
i ordered y700 2025 16gb/512gb one for 510usd to replace me samsung tab a9 lte. gonna use it for my moonlight and gfn streaming.
A9 lte will be badly defeated
Good call, you may want to try Winlator too for some serious Windows triple A gaming too. Is the version your ordered with an English rom? All I can find seems to have the Chinese Rom.
Same! Definitely gotta get the higher end model! I would have regretted getting the 12/256. This tablet can do so much with Winlator and everything else!
@@kadash977 chinese rom, but i know how to install google services with it. all phones i have used before are china rom. its why no problem for me since i have a bit of experience with installing google services on a china market android phone.
@@EdMitchell-e9c yes, aim for a TOTL variant. when buying a phone aim for the highest storage capacity. you might regret it later if you pick the base variant one. i once regretted buying a flagship phone that has only 256gb variant just to save 100 bucks fron 1TB variant.
256gb variant of this y700 cost $480, while 512gb cost $510. external sd card cost $50+ for a 512gb variant. so i have save money and has faster speed than external card when i buy this 512gb variant. but it would be nice to have external since i am used to save a lot of flac music to my device.
The 2025 does not support transferring the screen picture to PC via usb cable (using programs like Douwan). This is very frustrating for me
Hey all, y700 2023 owner here. For my main purposes and use case (home streaming from pc and PS5) che 2023 version is just perfect. When Winlator/Gamefusion will be stable, user friendly and consistent (soonish hopefully), I'm gonna need more power so I hope the next iteration of the y700 will have the Snapdragon Elite.
For the time being I'm absolutely good with the 2023 model.
My two cents
Is this better than the redmagic nova?
What's the skinny on swapping the ROM over to a native US version with Play support? I heard there was some sort of OTA update you could trigger direct from Lenovo
Keep the CN ROM. Most online shops come preloaded with the Play Store for you so you don't even have to do the work of installing it. Super easy to swap everything to English, haven't had a problem yet since Christmas when I got it
I'll second this reply, China ROM is fine and works seamlessly.
Can you tell me if it gives pen support. If yes, then how is the performance?
How do I charge it to 100%?
The tablet keeps beeping at
90% and doesn't charge
further. WHAT do I DO now?
That's usually a setting to maintain battery health. You can turn it off if you're fine with getting your battery replaced sooner although I wouldn't recommend it
Have had the 2023 for about 3 weeks. Great purchase. I use it for everything. Reading is also great on it. Battery last a few days even with heavy video usage. In my case watching and episode of something before bed. I think ive charged it twice maybe 3 times since i got it.
SDcard and Headphone jack are key to me. I would also prefer replaceable batteries.
Thank you for the review; now I know what to purchase. I'll only be getting a 2023 Lenovo tablet.
Awesome Comparation video...
Already got the accessories...
Magnetic Case... Stylus... Screen protector... Another 1Tb Micro SD-card...
Looking to snatche a
16gb ram / 512gb internal storage...of the Y700 2023 version...
Any Day now...
But I heard 2Tb micro SD card is already on the market...
🤔🧐🙃😎😁
Also, if you're adding
Telescopic Controller
ABXYLUTE S9
GAMESIR G8+
Kishi Ultra...
My favorite...
BsP D8 Bluetooth Controller ( Sky Black or Star Space White Edition)
Which fits...
Any PS-5 Portal Carrying Case...
🧐🤔
I'm new to the Legion ecosystem. I wasn't even really thinking about a new tablet until maybe a week ago. Fast forwarding to researching the best gaming tablets over a period of days and I landed on the y700 in terms of price and performance. I was trying to stay within a price range so it was either the 2023 at 16/512 or the 2025 at 12/256. I ultimately decided that I likely won't need (for the level of emulation and app store games I play) storage beyond 256GB and 12GB RAM is certainly sufficient. So I opted for the more up-to-date CPU. Your vids helped my with my decision making. Thanks!
I’m so glad I could help! Please let me know if there are any other videos I could make to help you out.
@@TheSpareTechRoom Does the Lenovo legion 8.8 2023 tablet support Aptx audio under Bluetooth?
how long are they supported?
any company can put the BEST hardware in a tablet.... but what really matters is the firmware updates, monthly updates and continued software support. lenovo.... lenovo is known for not doing this, sadly. and removing the sdcard slot on the new version just shows you the direction the company is going.
is this worth getting over the ipad 7 mini?
In terms of heat dissipation and real life battery performance, what are your comments? Thank you.
geat vid man!
Play Store disabled and uninstalled on Y700 2023, what can I do?😢
aurora store
I have both gen 1 (2022) & gen 2 (2023) and they performed really well for my gaming needs until now ...i think it doesn't necessary to own this one yet since it's flaw such as no sd slot and the the huge branding on it's back.. hope next year would be better... 8 Elite perhaps and SD slot available 😊
Are the screen standard glossy screens or do they have matte or antireflective coatings?
It has matte version of 2025 version
Is the screen size the same? It's a bit hard to get a 2025 screen protector in my city.
Great video!
2025 version all say CN Rom. Is it going to be usable in NA or even have English language?
Yes I can confirm it has English on it. It's easy enough to swap as long as you know how to use a settings app
May I know if both are running China ROM or Global ROM. How are the Android updates (like major update to Android 14?) on the 2023 Y700? Thanks.
Would recommend China from over global since only the China rom is official and has less bugs
@Chex_Mex how is the update policy?
Hello, how is the widevine security level? Are you able to stream netflix at full hd or 4k for both of these version?
I have the 2023 version and it has Widevine L1 for full hd.
It totaly different.
God of wars 2 Ps2
2025 run at 4-5x at 50Fps
2023 run 2.5-3x at 50Fps
Stray Switch
2023 little lag
2025 smooth
Most of switch 2025 is a lot better.
Moonlight
2023 Hevc
2025 AV1 very low ping.
Hai just asking
Is this new version 2025 can use Google Maps ?
I appreciate the video but there isn't much an improvement because you only went through emulation of older systems.
I'm still on the fence :/
Yeah I'm thinking 2023 only because of the SDCard slot for my Retro Games and the internal for my Android Games and Android apps
Does the 2023 model have native Desktop Mode like the 2025 model?
yes it does have a desktop mode
@@Pit940d 😮😮😮
I can also confirm that it has desktop mode. I haven't used it much but it's pretty nice. Also like how it can be quickly enabled right from the drop down menu in the quick settings.
@@DemocracyJones Ohhh that's good to know! So they're the smallest tablet that has a Desktop Mode then to date.
Just ordered the 2023 model
Btw if yall are confused, the 24 is the same as the 25
dude was focusing on the wall instead of the gameplay.
What about battery life?
These days it's not the hardware. It's the software availability. I have a iphone 6s plus which works fine. But no software updates. So practically it's 2usd per kg
I HAVE A LENOVO IN THE HOUSE BUT THE LENOVO WITH SNAPDRAGON GIVES THE GAME AND SMOOTH ALL THE BACKGROUND BUT THE SOCIETY OF SNAPDRAGON X-8 SUMMONING THE ZUI 5 PARTS ARE FOUNDING MY LAPTOP AND RESTART AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE WINDOWKEY ?? / I THINKS IT HACK
What gamepad did you use?
Abxylute S9
Could you compare 3DS emulation between the two?
i have both 2023 and 2024/25 model only down fall with the newer version doesn't have sd card slot
Yachties need this size of tablet,with gps & sim card
I am actually waiting for the thermals, that would probably talk who's better.
8gen3 is a monster chipset it will easily be the better choice.
How many years will get updates?
Don't expect any update!
How to flash the china version
Thank you, i have the 2023 model and i wont upgrate, there is no really gain. May be the next with sn 8 elite
if it doesn't have a micro sd slot, then itll be trash too.
@@Greidaon why would you need sd card at 512 gb storage on an Android tablet? I'd understand if it was a console, but it isn't
@@cyreaIa lot can be done with extra expansion,,,, for starter my comic collection alone almost 150 gb at this point,,, i use External only for the storage and internal only for the system and a game for smoother experience
Especially the game size for PS2 3DS and Switch is nothing to scoff at,,, so extra storage is a blessing
Everyone use their tablet for different purpose and having extra feature is always welcome
I use tachiyomi for comic and having almost 2000+ entry on my library
I sometimes travel to places where internet is hardly available (i live in indonesia) so having my favourite comic and movie available in my tablet is important 😂
@@cyreaIFor those GamerS with large library... Micro SD-card Slot is must...
🧐🤔😎🙃😁
Is there a sim slot
Can you try playing genshin impact, pubgm, codm, and other popular mobile games?
i know you r not asking me, but just for refrences, im playing wuthering waves on y700 2023 version, and it did consistently runs at 55-60 fps. maybe the 2025 version can run smoother
Dude nice vid. But playing super Mario is insulting but funny
And no google service
This y700 tablet is quite useless taking into account that the screen touch has long delay, and extended display can only be in landscape.
U dumb or what?
Nah. Way cheaper for 2023 edition at $260 and 2025 at $340. Albeit with coupons
Went for 2023
no micro sd card?? welp.... thats a no for me. im more into media usage and retro gaming
They should of upgrade the battery.
For me i buy Galaxy tab s10 plus or ipad pro m4
Got the 2023 16gb 512 for $300ish? Maybe $312ish with tax. 😂
where to order
@@christiansantos1031AliExpress
This tablet it's china rom only
Whiners! Look at possibilities of memory extension not by slow microSD, but with NVMe with magsafe. Faster and chipper.
Not worth to buy