Episode Twelve: A Conversation with Legendary Football Coach Lou Holtz

Lou Holtz, who led Notre Dame to the 1988 National Championship and is the only college football coach to lead six different programs to bowl games, talks with Says Who Sports about the four stages of becoming a championship team, how friend Jack Nicklaus's unexpected victory at the 1986 Masters bumped Holtz from the cover of Sports Illustrated, what he considers his greatest accomplishment in life, the lack of accountability and family values in society, what mentor Woody Hayes would likely say about the current state of college football including the transfer portal and NIL, the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary Catholics vs. Convicts about Notre Dame's thrilling win over the top-ranked Miami Hurricanes (led by Jimmy Johnson) in 1988, and much more!