The Tragedy of Rocket Racing

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  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher 3 дні тому +78

    It's so bizzare to me how Psyonix thought Rocket Racing should only launch with RANKED mode for like 6 months and then just stopped caring after that.

    • @Sensor_Beam
      @Sensor_Beam 8 годин тому

      Is it weird that when I run Ranked mode, I'm always running into racing bots instead of couple normal live players? And then when I go into Casual Racing, that's where I finally race actual players and not bot-filled lobbies.

  • @illuminosis6823
    @illuminosis6823 3 дні тому +128

    They took away rocket league trading for a dead gamemode in fortnite

    • @channcraft2025
      @channcraft2025 2 дні тому +3

      Yeah 😔😔 i want trade back

    • @RenPlayzBR
      @RenPlayzBR 2 дні тому +3

      Not just a dead gamemode, cars/SUVs kept getting almost all updates new cars from the rocket league integration

    • @random_aaa_person456
      @random_aaa_person456 2 дні тому +4

      We better get trading back to RL

    • @mitchjoshua5322
      @mitchjoshua5322 День тому +1

      2 dead game modes "minecraft" and "Mario cart" are awful no one plays them when festival, BR, ballistic, reload, OG exist

    • @channcraft2025
      @channcraft2025 День тому +3

      @@mitchjoshua5322 bad example, the lego fortnite mode is the most succesful

  • @crowthorn23
    @crowthorn23 2 дні тому +51

    Rocket League and Epic's main issue was that they didnt do NOTHING with it. Barely any Cars, Horrible customization, Overpriced Stuff and Only one new Gamemode.
    Would've been nice if they ported more stuff from Rocket Leauge and added Chapter 5 Season 3 mods
    Also i hope to god those stupid ass Lava hazards get removed

    • @Whiskers--5
      @Whiskers--5 2 години тому

      “Barely any cars” haha

  • @BrandonGiesing
    @BrandonGiesing День тому +12

    A few things I feel like mentioning after watching:
    1. I personally like they went for a more serious racer when so many other games are simply "Mario Kart but X IP" but I get why people want it.
    2. I think one of the largest reasons it fell so hard was the fact they didn't add Casual until like a half a year later and it even took a bit after that for them to make it the default when you selected the mode. Who launches a game with ONLY Ranked?!? 99% of players in any game don't play Ranked modes cause they just want to have fun, not play against sweaty tryhards. By time they added it, it was too late as the player base that was left so long down the line is the hardcore fans that would want Ranked, you would never find any players so 95% of your lobbies would be bots.
    3. Causal does make sense to have though cause before they added it, you had to pick specific tracks and sometimes, you just want to have it auto-pick from the playlist.
    4. The track selection rotates weekly (they post it in the official Discord, basically the ONLY communication we still get) so you only get like 25% of the tracks each week. That would make sense if we had literally like 200 tracks in the game or something but we have like... 50. And almost every track has both a "easy" version and a "2" hard version so really it's like half of that. Having more unique map themes would help but it's only made extra worse by the fact you only see the same like 15 maps repeating each week.
    5. TBF the player count graph is like way worse than it looks, if you compare it to Festival and LEGO too, they ALL had severe steep drops from day 1 since literally everyone who plays Fortnite checked them out initially and of course not everyone is going to enjoy every mode, but yeah Festival and LEGO have still been consistently higher since that time when you filter out that outlier data.
    So that said, personally what I would want them to do:
    1. Fortnite Crew already grants the Rocket Pass inside Rocket League just like the Music, LEGO, OG, and Battle Passes and fun fact, the Rocket Pass is already multi-game compatible! They have a unique mobile version of Rocket League called Sideswipe and they have a system in place where every time you win in Sideswipe, it sends an XP Percentage Boost over to the main RL that gets applied when you then win a "soccar" match. And vice versa (so that win in RL then sends a boost to Sideswipe that will be applied your next win there). They can very easily implement the same system with Fortnite, every RR match would send XP over to RL and every RL match would send XP over to Fortnite (hey that even encourages more Fortnite players to increase that game's playerbase as they can get more Battle Pass XP!)
    2. Like mentioned at the very top of this comment, I prefer it not being a Mario Kart clone but hey if Festival has Jam and Battle Stage and LEGO has Odyssey and Brick Life, we can definitely have Rocket Racing and "Rocket Kart".
    3. This is a Fortnite wide problem but there's some legit great Creative Rocket Racing tracks but of course they all get buried under the same slop that BR based ones have to deal with. Why not... curate great ones and put them directly in the track selection alongside the official maps? Or hell, they own Fall Guys and that has an entirely separate playlist that automatically plays through random (but still curated) creator maps only, so not do something similar here? Ranked & Casual for the official maps and Explore for Creative.
    4. Simply add all the maps to the rotation until you get way more.
    5. They clearly have a staffing issue. Multiple devs have said off the record that they had like... 10 people working on it and that was even like a few months before the "we are stopping themed updates" announcement and that it was actually **even lower** pre-launch with like the entire month up to launch being an insane crunch with like overtime and extra work days. I think that's a huge factor cause if you look at the other modes, they definitely don't have the same small amount of staff. All the Shooter modes are Epic itself obviously and they have multiple studios across the globe under that all working on it so it's like 100s of people, LEGO is partly some of those core BR devs + people at The LEGO Group and Mediatonic (who also do Fall Guys), and of course Harmonix literally has their entire studio entirely dedicated to Festival and they definitely aren't only 10 people. Psyonix however clearly has 95% of their staff focused on Rocket League which makes sense but maybe they need to like pull 10-15% more away to Racing or pull some of the BR support studios to help.
    6. The above point also helps explain why the leaked 2024 roadmap that was like 95% correct, basically the only things wrong was simply the timing of the RR updates (which did come out eventually), they clearly had so few working on it that they kept missing deadlines and well, the whole reason Fortnite is surviving is cause the constant pumping out of updates keeps people from getting bored. You gotta wonder if they simply had more manpower, could they have got those updates out on time and prevented so much drop off? Like even Festival and LEGO were kinda barren on launch but they were pumping out updates like crazy, RR basically got nothing for the first like 4 months it existed.

  • @ICE_woomy
    @ICE_woomy 3 дні тому +18

    rocket racing has always been buggy feeling? boring and frustrating more than anything
    there isn't a way to pick maps, i always ended up playing on the same 3
    the game has many issues (on every map) with randomly dying or getting your car flipped backwards.
    there isn't a lot of skill involved. the only luck or mixups was people dying for no reason

    • @Evnen1
      @Evnen1  2 дні тому +2

      honestly yeah, you really do end up on the same 3-4 tracks every time and it gets boring quick

  • @shiethegal
    @shiethegal 3 дні тому +28

    Epic should've taken notes from the Hot Wheels racing games, especially Turbo Racing. A racing game based on Rocket League was _BEGGING_ for some sort of stunt system, like the one in Turbo Racing, but Epic just never came to that conclusion...

  • @TheCubest5Fret
    @TheCubest5Fret 2 дні тому +19

    Honestly, Rocket Racing is a fun mode... for about ten minutes, then it gets a bit repetitive. The tracks all feel the same (Doesn't help that they seem to loop the same four tracks) and there is way too many straight lines with nothing to do. I feel like a good solution to making RR more fun is to add the vehicle mods from Chapter 5 Season 3, and maybe add some new ones, and actually make the mods have an impact on gameplay.
    Make shortcuts for off-road tyres. Give cars health so turrets and machine guns work without being busted, same with front bumpers. It's very sad how forgotten and repetitive RR is, especially as one of the core modes for this ever-evolving game.

    • @NightDayZX
      @NightDayZX 2 дні тому

      @TheCubest5Fret you can drift on straights to go faster

  • @Lizljay757
    @Lizljay757 День тому +6

    Rocket racing really needs a death race mode; you could have duos were one player is a driver and the other can shoot guns out the passenger. driver would have to drive over creates inorder to grab a random gun for the passenger. The passenger would have to shoot enemy racers in order to blow them up. Responds enabled, winner is the first to complete 3 laps

  • @lwke1296
    @lwke1296 4 дні тому +41

    I think the biggest problem was the lack of substantial multiplayer. Like yeah you can play with your friends but like what’s the point of you being together in the same race? Especially if you’re competing for a rank

    • @orangemonks894
      @orangemonks894 2 дні тому +4

      And still no split screen… I think

    • @Sensor_Beam
      @Sensor_Beam 8 годин тому

      Just to be in the same party and race at the same time to have some decent fun. I know Mario Kart does this a lot better, but at least you don't have to pay an online subscription just to play with your buddy from across another distance.

  • @Malachite_2077
    @Malachite_2077 3 дні тому +31

    honestly giving it it's own pass or giving the player rocket league xp for it's pass could go a long way in getting more people to play the mode and giving them a "goal" to progress to.

    • @Robospy1
      @Robospy1 3 дні тому +1

      I don’t know. Just adding things to grind for doesn’t really make the game more fun.

    • @bradwhite5884
      @bradwhite5884 4 години тому

      Yeah, you should progress your Rocket Pass playing this game mode then just hop into Rocket League tbh, so yeah

  • @DodgeThatAttack
    @DodgeThatAttack 3 дні тому +28

    so glad they killed the rocket league economy for this

  • @flamaerao
    @flamaerao 2 дні тому +4

    8:51 fair point, but considering that:
    1: Each individual track has basically nobody playing it, a knock-on effect of the low player counts
    2. The majority of the Rocket Racing Discovery tab is just maps that have nothing to do with actual racing
    It kinda throws a wrench in your argument that Casual Racing is pointless, since it's effectively the only way to actually race without ranks
    Other than that, great video! It's really a shame that Rocket Racing was abandoned like this, as it was the 2023 mode that I was most hyped for
    I do think another reason that it dropped so quickly was how poorly it functioned in the first few weeks; I lost count of how many times I got lightly tapped from behind and ended up spinning completely around to face the opposite way. A lot of people probably left during this time and just... never looked back.

  • @shiethegal
    @shiethegal 3 дні тому +9

    I like Rocket Racing, but it's also one of the most unrefined racing games I've played. It's painfully obvious that Epic didn't have any clear idea in mind for what kind of game Rocket Racing should've been, and the game's suffered because of that.

  • @Pe_Dabliu
    @Pe_Dabliu 3 дні тому +10

    This should have been Fortnite's Mario kart, and have the racing mode separate, like they did with festival

  • @Nvshvil
    @Nvshvil 3 дні тому +16

    I don’t play Fortnite this shit just popped up on my feed. Looks dope nice video think the algorithm is about to flood this onto people’s feeds and quadruple your subs

  • @Sayori393
    @Sayori393 День тому +3

    The saddest part is that rocket league players have been asking for a racing mode since the game RELEASED. And then they get a not so good game mode released in Fortnite. Honestly tragic.

  • @fabianzimmermann9521
    @fabianzimmermann9521 3 дні тому +6

    Lol I was confused why he talked about Fortnite in this Rocket league documentary and then I read the title again.

  • @hondaaccord1399
    @hondaaccord1399 21 годину тому +1

    I think my favorite video about this game mode is someone talking about getting Unreal Felina by playing Rocket Racing, just for them to complain throughout the whole video 😂 They also made a tier list of the tracks, and rightfully Riviera is in last place 💪🏻

  • @jacopomalatesta4913
    @jacopomalatesta4913 2 дні тому +12

    The cars should feel more physics based, the tracks all feel the same, the only real gameplay feature that is not solid ground is those red low effort obstacles.
    Tracks need gimmicks, something special about them, tracks could have items (or weapon mods) that are not in random boxes but in well determined places if epic really donesn’t wanr RNG in it

    • @NightDayZX
      @NightDayZX 2 дні тому

      @@jacopomalatesta4913 not saying this applies to all tracks but Delirium is probably the main gimmick track. Players have to play most of that track upside down

  • @emeraldnext
    @emeraldnext День тому +1

    Two things that would improve Rocket Racing for me A) Seeing the victors stand next to their vehicles and being able to emote on the victory podium. A lot of modern fortnite revolves around showing off, even Black Ops 6 has a (terrible) victory podium to show off skins so people keep buying more and feeling incentivized to win. B) Why aren’t ranks shown in leaderboards? There should be some way to express ourselves in the mode other than cars. Even the trailers show the fortnite characters inside the Rocket Racing cars, so why aren’t they at least there during the victory screen besides a small little icon?

  • @greenstarfish
    @greenstarfish День тому +1

    Great video! Out of the 3 modes, I actually like Rocket Racing the most. The gameplay is fun, especially grinding ranks, and it feels a lot more fun since the matches are so short. The mode definitely has potential, but it needs two things, more memorable tracks and interesting game modes. For the game modes, they could add a knockout race, like the one that was leaked a while back or a Mario Kart-esque mode. Before it launched, I was expecting tracks themed around Fortnite, but instead, they were all very generic and had the same theming. This did improve over time and now there are a couple tracks that have unique themes, like a mine one and a snowy one, but those are exceptions and not the rule. Memorable courses could've helped the mode so much by having it stay with people longer. When you compare it to Mario Kart, each track has not only a unique theme but also unique music, which creates a stronger connection with the player.
    I do hope Rocket Racing gets another chance although I am doubtful. I'll still keep playing it either way because I genuinely like the mode. (I think I'm starting to understand what StW fans feel like.)

  • @benianyma
    @benianyma День тому

    i couldnt BELIEVE how a Fortnite racing game didnt have goofy power-ups

  • @shun2232
    @shun2232 3 дні тому +9

    I will forever be a rocket racing defender, genuinely some of the most fun I've had playing this game. Even though everyone and even epic threw you under the bus, I won't forget ya buddy 😭

  • @itsmax9535
    @itsmax9535 23 години тому

    the fact there was no progression, no free car bodies or anything, a awful ranked mode and NO quickplay on launch is sad. Imagine they actually did more stuff like the metallica track. Imagine racing around on Namek from Dragonball, Night City from Cyberpunk etc.

  • @froggyminionpind4877
    @froggyminionpind4877 День тому

    Rocket racing is one of those modes more fit for competitive players, I used to be top 50, but started to move away because people were getting too good. I wish this mode got more love o7

  • @playstation.e7703
    @playstation.e7703 13 годин тому

    3:08 yo hold on is that chaos island act 2 Music?

  • @DraconicAux
    @DraconicAux 3 дні тому +3

    I just want the Rocket Pass from Rocket League to be added to Rocket Racing. Fortnite Crew already gives you the Rocket Pass, but I absolutely hate Rocket League. There are some cosmetics that transfer to Fortnite, so why not just let Rocket Racing players progress the pass?

  • @NightDayZX
    @NightDayZX 4 дні тому +4

    I think your perspective is valid coming from a outsider looking in. In your research did you talk to any Rocket Racing players about the state of the game from their perspective?

    • @Evnen1
      @Evnen1  4 дні тому +2

      i am definitely an outsider, i didnt even know if there was a substantial rocket racing community 😭, ive only seen it for lego and festival

    • @YeeticusRR
      @YeeticusRR День тому +1

      ​@@Evnen1theres a dedicated group that grind ranked or some world records. Coming from someone in said dedicated group its dying. Nothing really gets fixed and good players are dropping the game left and right. Mechanically the game is still fun especially the advabced stuff. But the game is gonna get glitchier and glitchier

    • @YeeticusRR
      @YeeticusRR День тому +1

      ​@@Evnen1 the game also has a high skill cieling so alot of people get turned away from that. Epic never gave the tools or even gave the mechanics like mag flips or bunnyhops names. Its all been from the community

  • @shartmasterYT
    @shartmasterYT 2 дні тому +1

    Small nitpick i've always found weird with this mode, I remember playing the big bang event when Rocket racing got revealed for the first time and the first thing that happened was seeing your Fortnite skin pretty much surf on of the car while it was driving. When the mode actually came out and it just looked like a generic arcade racer with none of the flare from neither Rocket League nor Fortnite I was pretty disappointed, Epic for some reason made this a Fortnite metaverse mode instead of a rocket league game, you're not even able to use all the rocket league cosmetics like toppers and antennas. Why not use that to your advantage and do the same thing as the event where your chosen skin is surfing on top of the car? It would make the game visually way more interesting, Cosmetics would be way more synergized across different modes and maybe you could even use emotes after the match and do air trick animations so people would be inclined to actually play Fortnite for the racing mode and buy cosmetics instead of it just being an afterthought for battle royale players who want some free new wheel colours for their car. It obviously wouldn't be much of a fix for the core issues of the mode but it would add some much needed identity to such a bland mode in a game where you can play as Spider-man, Peter Griffin, Hatsune Miku and a Humanoid banana.

  • @DashFN69
    @DashFN69 20 годин тому

    The amount of money epic wastes on this game for no reason at all is baffling

  • @Sensor_Beam
    @Sensor_Beam 8 годин тому

    Geez where is that Cars collab that happened in Rocket League? Should it also be here in Rocket Racing too? Think of all the people who want to be Lightning McQueen or Mater.
    Good video, yeah this game needs a massive overhaul if it's going to compete against Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. I wish it can outshine it.
    Also, where the hell are the competitive tournaments with prize pools? Sheesh I'd like to see pro racers go up against each other for money other than seeing smelly Aura skins all the dang time.
    On the bright side, at least the game is free to play and doesn't require a monthly online membership just to play with others.

  • @12bubbylove345
    @12bubbylove345 День тому +1

    calling a failed game mode in fortnite a tragedy is so funny

  • @RARITYNS
    @RARITYNS День тому

    The biggest problem is that rocket league shoukd have just been treated and asvertised as a minigame. It felt too bare to be its own game like lego odyssry or festival

  • @thatfallenone
    @thatfallenone Годину тому

    Tbh what i really love about rocket racing is that it took skill instead of luck to win. I guess I'm the only one. Also, based on your rocket racing game play, you're pretty much doing the bare minimum if you even care to read this, you want to use your rocket dodge to flip downwards to the track a bit more.

  • @cubeman6639
    @cubeman6639 22 години тому

    They should have made rocket racing a separate game

  • @mrfrogyeet
    @mrfrogyeet 2 дні тому +3

    They need to cancel Lego and ballistic too

    • @Wildfire115-hd6yv
      @Wildfire115-hd6yv Годину тому

      If I see Epic cutting support for LEGO in general, it would surprise me. But if it happened to Brick Life then is the opposite, like who even plays it? I still haven't gave a try yet 😂

  • @m4rcyonstation93
    @m4rcyonstation93 День тому +1

    0:56 SEKAAAAAI IDE

  • @SeySenpai
    @SeySenpai Годину тому

    Rocket racing is the only game mode i play in FN every day nowadays and i can say the game would have been so much better if it had its current game mode as well as some others say a death race mode (one where someone dies after every lap done or time done). Personally though id like if epic scrapped the cosmetics grant no advantage idea so we could have a game mode like forza or NFS or The Crew something where you can grind for car parts and tune your cars but say if you got enough customization and a good enough tune you could still compete pretty well against people in a lambo while youre in a lower class car obviously the cosmetic advantage would only count for this mode thiugh because its the only way to make a top tier racing game. I think if they did these ideas to start off with and make more tracks they could easily get more people interested in the game its my favorite mode in fortnite id love to see the game succeed but epic wont let it succeed and reach the potential it has.

  • @WaifuDealer
    @WaifuDealer День тому

    I rlly wanted this gamemode to work to. I imagined it to one be compare to ready player one

  • @theYNG_D
    @theYNG_D День тому +1

    If You Really Want To Deep Dive On Rocket Racing Downfall Check Out Broz Video On He Wraps Up Everything Wrong Abt RR And Shows How It Can Comeback

  • @EJTMK7
    @EJTMK7 День тому

    I’m top 100 in rocket racks and I have been playing since the beginning and I think the main things were just a lack of updates and changes to the mechanics and new gamemodes lack of fair ranked play and track rotations and just feeling very stale to play kinda took away the games popularity I ask of everyone who reads this comment to play rocket racing and give some new light to the gamemode

  • @TheyCallMeReo420
    @TheyCallMeReo420 3 дні тому

    not to mention even though its also a more niche racer hot wheels unleashed is just a better version with more personality and if i remember correctly their second game (with jumping like rocket racing) came out around the same time

  • @davidhuapaya4450
    @davidhuapaya4450 День тому

    Can we all just agree that Creative killed these gamemodes?

  • @KompadoodleLEL
    @KompadoodleLEL 3 дні тому +1

    Rocket racing is fun but just needs a few easy fixes to make it actually fun

  • @atinofspam3433
    @atinofspam3433 3 дні тому +3

    Just more epic games slop

  • @thomased22legoyodagaming
    @thomased22legoyodagaming 3 дні тому +3

    I love this mode. It has way more depth than Mario Kart. It was let down by the tracks and player on player collisions being demented.

    • @Evnen1
      @Evnen1  2 дні тому

      track designs really do not take advantage of the control of the cars at all

  • @void_cozmo5424
    @void_cozmo5424 2 дні тому

    Im so glad you said that the creative 2.0 stuff is slop like absolutey brain rotted garbage

  • @cjdonks
    @cjdonks День тому +3

    Rocket racing is my favourite game. And going by your video, with all due respect, your not the best at it. You make it look boring. If you understood the mechanics you'd enjoy it more and so would others and im not talking about bhoping

  • @bradwhite5884
    @bradwhite5884 4 години тому

    I like and play Rocket Racing, but they kinda fumbled the bag here and should of done better, should of been on Rocket League or its very own game tbh, should be battle racing or something, also all the hazards are annoying too and unnecessary at times, but yeah

  • @adammakes6673
    @adammakes6673 День тому

    Just make it a mario kart knock off

  • @lgame900
    @lgame900 23 години тому

    No bhops your lines are boof , stick to the sticks

  • @lullypawp3479
    @lullypawp3479 2 дні тому

    They could have made a Kart style racer but went with a boring racing mode

  • @jamiekosch2562
    @jamiekosch2562 2 дні тому

    Your info as to how maney play it is in the worrnying the fame sate at 25k in players its not die as you put it and ther is stell work being done to add into it thay hav not fulley give up on rocket acrsing hav a nices day this has ben the devinen ken omage the hads fo god