FINAL DOOM: THE PLUTONIA EXPERIMENT - CASALI'S WRATH | Trav Guy

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  • @ThatTravGuy
    @ThatTravGuy  2 місяці тому +23

    Use code travguy.business and Game better with Nyxi 🎮nyxigame.com/?referral_code=TLU9UY3KL3VU&source_type=sales_plugin_af&slt=sales_plugin_af)

    • @daemonspudguy
      @daemonspudguy 2 місяці тому

      Got a Nyxi Hyperion Joy-Con set. Better in most ways compared to the original Joy-Cons, except for the lack of HD rumble which I wish they could use but I get why.

    • @nftscreenshotter6436
      @nftscreenshotter6436 2 місяці тому

      The intro to this video slaps, great stuff :D

  • @HUNT3RdotME
    @HUNT3RdotME 2 місяці тому +240

    "Okay, just gotta work on this thumbnail for Plutonia. Gotta pick an iconic death pose to put myself in since, y'know, _it's Plutonia._ Family Guy one's too obvious tho, let's go with Yamcha."
    - That Trav Guy, probably

    • @KoffeeBean64
      @KoffeeBean64 2 місяці тому +7

      Yeah, I love how he did yamcha

  • @Skuttie
    @Skuttie 2 місяці тому +126

    no pistol start, no quake con girls

  • @OldFashionedLizard
    @OldFashionedLizard 2 місяці тому +182

    ah yes, the "getting sniped by a dozen chaingunners" simulator

  • @christopherwall2121
    @christopherwall2121 2 місяці тому +80

    "(Hell overwhelming the Quantum Accelerators to start another invasion) is basically Plutonia in a nutshell: When one doesn't work, send _more_ " - Civvie-11

  • @cold_soup_
    @cold_soup_ 2 місяці тому +64

    as a massive plutonia fan that intro really put a smile on my face

    • @dum5247
      @dum5247 2 місяці тому +2

      Synonymous with “a glutton for punishment”

    • @NonEmployee
      @NonEmployee 2 місяці тому +2

      People always say Trav is taking notes from Civvie, but I think Trav's Plutonia intro is not only better, but my favorite out of all his video's intros. (Nothing bad about Civvie's, to clarify)

  • @kayeplaguedoc9054
    @kayeplaguedoc9054 2 місяці тому +17

    "The UAC are good now" - eh, tbh, the UAC in the old games was more cataclysmically stupid rather than evil.

  • @befayedocrimes4751
    @befayedocrimes4751 2 місяці тому +31

    "God I wish that were me"
    Based Trav, same

  • @daemonspudguy
    @daemonspudguy 2 місяці тому +27

    That revenant just leaving is totally the correct move to make when you're a demon and you see Doomguy.

  • @GmodPlusWoW
    @GmodPlusWoW 2 місяці тому +74

    Ah yes, "Oops! All Revenants", the iconic slaughter-map experience. There are a lot of these boners in Plutonia, and much like the skeletal inhabitants of a certain pyramid in Yucatán, they've got a BONE to pick with you!
    I don't know if Quake has a Plutonia analogue, but it'd probably be mostly Vores. Believe me, I've played a lot of Quake .wads recently, and Vores are the Revenants of Quake.

    • @Morningstar91939
      @Morningstar91939 2 місяці тому +4

      Vores are my worst enemy in Quake. Their homing projectiles almost always hit me, and they’re annoyingly common in Scourge of Armagon. Even the Spawns don’t cause as much trouble for me.

    • @GmodPlusWoW
      @GmodPlusWoW 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Morningstar91939 For me it's the opposite. With Vores, I can duck-and-cover with relative ease (even though Quake 1 doesn't usually let you crouch), but Spawns are my real "that one fucking enemy".
      If you don't take out Spawns super-quick, like a second or two after they belch, they become an even deadlier nuisance than homing missiles. Partly because they're a lot smaller and faster than most enemies, and because they explode on death. Lost Souls can't even compare to that, and I'm glad that there was never a Shoggoth enemy that spawned Spawns a'la the Pain Elemental.

    • @Polytank1981
      @Polytank1981 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Morningstar91939 I find spawns far worse than Vores tbh. Vores are a funny case for me, because I just tend to avoid them by running in very tight circles on the spot so I end up orbiting a mass of like 6 Vore projectiles. Not sure if that only applies to the remaster of Quake or if it stops being true on nightmare difficulty...
      Meanwhile spawns just bounce everywhere and the only way I can consistently land a shot on spawns is via hitscan, which are either close ranged or run out of ammo in 0.25 seconds, so it just becomes hell

    • @Polytank1981
      @Polytank1981 2 місяці тому

      @@GmodPlusWoW one of the expansion packs has a spawn variant that duplicates itself, so...

    • @GmodPlusWoW
      @GmodPlusWoW 2 місяці тому

      @@Polytank1981 oh fuck me dry i forgot about those fuckers from Dissolution of Eternity

  • @Morningstar91939
    @Morningstar91939 2 місяці тому +30

    Trav Guy’s finally playing Plutonia? To quote Pinhead in Hellraiser 2, his suffering will be legendary even in Hell.

  • @Tokumastu1
    @Tokumastu1 2 місяці тому +20

    Decino would be proud of your Doom journey.

    • @thepolarphantasm2319
      @thepolarphantasm2319 2 місяці тому +14

      It's cool how zen Decino has managed to get while becoming increasingly OP in Doom
      Like that dude can basically see the code in everything like he's the Drummer from PLANETARY, ffs... oh and he's pals with friggin John Romero these days no big deal lol
      But he's just same ol' Decino... Same as it ever was.

  • @teaoftraffic
    @teaoftraffic 2 місяці тому +17

    ah yes
    REVENANT RAVE PARTY

  • @SirAsdf
    @SirAsdf 2 місяці тому +24

    Trevor will be like, "It's really easy, I swear!" As if he doesn't have the reaction speeds of a mongoose fighting a black mamba.
    Meanwhile, I'm just standing there thinking he's lying through his teeth.

  • @LizziShift
    @LizziShift 2 місяці тому +8

    1:39 patiently waiting for the metroid dread review 🙏🙏

  • @protostar5946
    @protostar5946 2 місяці тому +15

    Hell yeah, uploads from MtPain27 *AND* That Trav Guy back-to-back!!!

  • @funnyguy-qs4ho
    @funnyguy-qs4ho 2 місяці тому +14

    trab guy eats plutonium

  • @beaniewearingbastard3125
    @beaniewearingbastard3125 2 місяці тому +11

    Plutonia does actually have an original OST, which is entirely composed of Revenants screaming and Chaingunners firing.

  • @darkmessiah757
    @darkmessiah757 2 місяці тому +7

    Damn. They Yamcha'd poor Trav. I'll get the beans

  • @SGTMajorMikeGodBlessAmerica
    @SGTMajorMikeGodBlessAmerica 2 місяці тому +17

    Plutonia was the Devil's Fun, but Plutonia 2 is straight up the Devil's Work

    • @protostar5946
      @protostar5946 2 місяці тому +1

      Then what's Plutonia *3?*

    • @Triad2e4
      @Triad2e4 2 місяці тому

      @@protostar5946They skipped 3 and went straight to 7

    • @SGTMajorMikeGodBlessAmerica
      @SGTMajorMikeGodBlessAmerica 2 місяці тому

      @@protostar5946 Wait thats out now?

    • @distroya_
      @distroya_ Місяць тому

      ​@@protostar5946according to popular concensus, an abomination.

  • @ASLB247
    @ASLB247 2 місяці тому +14

    First: 10:54 I don’t know if you were referring to me, but if you were, I appreciate the shoutout. Also, nice to know I’m not alone with Lippeth’s “Always Watching”. Not sure if I can pick a favorite TBH, but I will bring up stewboy’s Jade Empire for map 3 which is SO FREAKING GOOD! Like…I wish you used the midi pack for map 3, because it’s such a good track! And legit, stewboy’s one of the best midi composers in the community, and if you haven’t, check out his contributions to speed of doom, ancient aliens, and especially Heartland.
    Second: man this has been a long time coming. Now just to wait for the Doom 1 and 2 re-reviews and maybe master levels? I say maybe because…legit, they aren’t the best. It has some ok levels like attack, canyon, and black tower, but for every one of them, we get 2 christen klie level, a Jim Flynn level here and there, and throw in TEETH and Mephisto for good measure.
    Much like Plutonia and Evilution, Master Levels ALSO has a midi pack, this time courtesy of Peter Lawrence meant to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the collection. If you’re ever gonna play the master levels, use the midi pack. It’ll only help make the maps better.
    Aaand as for what I think of Plutonia itself, while I still say Doom 64’s my favorite in the classic series, this is a pretty satisfying wad to play through and beat. It does slump near the end with the exception of the final frontier (judge me) and anti christ, but for the most part, it helped fine-tune the combat of doom into a punishing yet fun map pack, and the fact it took 4 months for two guys to complete is kind of impressive. Plus, without this, we wouldn’t have the legion of challenging wads like hell revealed, alien vendetta, scythe, and more.
    I’ll reply eventually with the total casali coins each casali got, unless someone else does it, in which case, yeah.

    • @ASLB247
      @ASLB247 2 місяці тому +2

      M Congo: 2
      D Well Of Souls: 1
      M Aztec: 0
      D Caged: 0
      M Ghost Town: 1
      D Baron’s den: 0
      D Caughtyard: 1
      D Realm: 1 for the archvile fight-
      M Abbatoire: 0
      D Onslaught: 2
      D Hunted: 0?
      M Speed: 2
      D The Crypt: 0
      D Genesis: 1
      M The Twilight: 0?
      D Cyberden: 1
      M GO 2 IT!: 0?
      M The Omen: 1
      D Compound: 0
      M Neurosphere: 0
      M NME: 0
      D The Death Domain: 0
      M Slayer: 1
      D Impossible Mission: 2
      M Tombstone: 1
      M The Final Frontier: 0
      D The Temple of Darkness: 0
      D Bunker: 0
      M Anti-Christ: 0?
      D The Sewers: 0
      M Odyssey of Noises: 2
      M The Gateway To Hell: 0
      Milo: 10
      Dario: 9
      Winner: Milo

  • @datsnazzyplumber3498
    @datsnazzyplumber3498 2 місяці тому +5

    Fun Fact about "Go 2 It" if anyone didn't know: It's a reimagining of Map 1 from Doom 2, which is, I assume, why the custom OST has a Doom melody for the level.
    Also I have legitimately NEVER heard of a Doom map where everything is the same across all difficulties. That's a tiny bit cursed to me that only NOW I'm learning this about Plutonia.

    • @Arivia1
      @Arivia1 2 місяці тому +3

      It actually isn’t a remake of Doom2 MAP01. It’s a rebuild of Dario Casali’s PUNISHER, which itself is based on the Doom 2 map. It’s Milo taking what’s supposed to be his brother’s hardest map and pushing it even further. (I thought DWANGO5 MAP01 was also in the family tree somewhere but I’m not sure.)

  • @Kingkool-uo1ew
    @Kingkool-uo1ew 2 місяці тому +4

    1:56 bro why not? you could’ve gotten any girl at quakecon!

  • @EpicJasonX9000
    @EpicJasonX9000 2 місяці тому +3

    Plutonia is easily one of the best titles in Classic Doom.

  • @thrillsekr2606
    @thrillsekr2606 2 місяці тому +8

    "But I'll never reach the point of 'My review was playing in the credits of a movie!' Yeah that's not happening." I'm going to make a big, high quality movie now just to get a review of yours in the credits.

    • @s.p.d.magentaranger1822
      @s.p.d.magentaranger1822 2 місяці тому +1

      In the words of Oscar the Grouch:
      "It's called a garbage can, not a garbage cannot."

  • @RikouHogashi
    @RikouHogashi 2 місяці тому +6

    Welp time to Go 2 it Trav

  • @bruh_nke5533
    @bruh_nke5533 2 місяці тому +5

    Trav be hitting the yamcha

  • @chiefhydropolis
    @chiefhydropolis 2 місяці тому +3

    petah, the chaingunners are here(shotgun sfx overlapping upon itself)

  • @serge4ntsnu5fles
    @serge4ntsnu5fles 2 місяці тому +2

    I've played doom 2 most of my life, so much so that it's ultimately helped shape me as a person and be there when I'm down. I still have yet to complete the plutonia experiment... I will climb over that mountain someday.

  • @spase667
    @spase667 2 місяці тому +5

    Ah yes, the best official episode of Doom 😎
    *edit: at least before the Unity port started including mods. I just played through Anomaly Report and it’s pretty easy but really fun.

  • @Ebin_Heart
    @Ebin_Heart 2 місяці тому +3

    Did you mean to trick shot yourself off the ledge when that Arch-Vile killed you at 24:17 ? 😂

  • @johndoe7270
    @johndoe7270 2 місяці тому +1

    Plutonia is my stuck on a deserted island WAD. It was hard back then but has some good action. I think my first experience with it, was on the Playstation version of Final Doom.

  • @Billious
    @Billious 2 місяці тому +4

    You should do myhouse, when you’re ready of course.

  • @thepolarphantasm2319
    @thepolarphantasm2319 2 місяці тому +3

    "Winners don't do drugs, kids." - That John Sessions Guy, Doom Enforcement Administration

  • @shlokwaghela9560
    @shlokwaghela9560 2 місяці тому +2

    Uac being Nintendo is so funny for no reason

  • @amber_rose2
    @amber_rose2 2 місяці тому +3

    Well time to add to the sleep Playlist

  • @OutbreakBoi
    @OutbreakBoi 2 місяці тому +5

    LETS GOOOOOOOO

  • @SmoothieRed
    @SmoothieRed 2 місяці тому +3

    “God I wish that were me”
    mood

  • @maxis_scott_engie_maximov_jr
    @maxis_scott_engie_maximov_jr 2 місяці тому +2

    I have unironically had easier time going through Plutonia than I had through TNT
    I don't think I was meant to have

  • @cup_noodls
    @cup_noodls 2 місяці тому +4

    Winners don't do drugs which is why I was prescribed Adderall.

  • @vhproductions
    @vhproductions 2 місяці тому +2

    Final Doom is like a Pizza. You have your classic Doom 2 cheese and pepperoni, your TNT mushroom monotony, and your Plutonia jalapeno and hot sauce spam. Either you enjoy bland, or pain. *And we like pain.*

  • @polishedcopper3017
    @polishedcopper3017 2 місяці тому +3

    Nice to see you back!

  • @BigPashPlays
    @BigPashPlays 2 місяці тому +2

    “Always Watching” by Lippeth to replace the mad bunny music in the arch vile maze has always been my favourite from the pack. Perfect level of sinister without being chainsaw your eyes out repetitive like the original

  • @CherryColaWizard
    @CherryColaWizard 2 місяці тому +2

    Plutonia is really good. What's even better are the various custom WADs that are inspired by Plutonia. If you get the chance, try Plutonia 2, Plutonia Revisted, Urania, and Cydonia. They're all a good challenge.

  • @dvader518
    @dvader518 2 місяці тому +2

    Next stop: Master Levels and No Rest for the Living (also, the bonus Xbox levels Sewers and Betray).

  • @hungryfilms3707
    @hungryfilms3707 2 місяці тому +3

    The “unkillable” archvile in map 27 can actually be killed. you’ll need to stock up on rockets first and you just have to fire a constant stream of rockets at the chain gunner and hope the splash damage is enough to kill the Archie. It’s not 100% reliable but it is possible

    • @nickblake8767
      @nickblake8767 2 місяці тому

      That's only possible in complevel 1, 2, and I believe 3.

    • @hungryfilms3707
      @hungryfilms3707 2 місяці тому

      @@nickblake8767 I’m not too familiar with the comp levels so you may be right, I think gzdoom may effect this too

  • @jcplays5831
    @jcplays5831 13 днів тому +1

    That intro feels like a trailer for plutonia

  • @romeurodrigues2075
    @romeurodrigues2075 2 місяці тому +1

    Just as my doom obsession came back, perfect timing

  • @thestephanoturtleygo
    @thestephanoturtleygo 2 місяці тому +3

    I kinda think if he want to sell people on a great opening level to try No Rest For The Living.

  • @trenth3492
    @trenth3492 2 місяці тому +2

    Now that’s some spicy editing

  • @justanantico6327
    @justanantico6327 2 місяці тому

    Hearing him talk about Doom 64 brought me inexplicable joy

  • @tackwardsfongjump1800
    @tackwardsfongjump1800 2 місяці тому +1

    Been watching since your original Doom 2 video. Its been awesome to see this channel grow.

  • @theblobconsumes4859
    @theblobconsumes4859 2 місяці тому +1

    Finally, been waiting for this forever.
    Also, how open would you be to make a video on Going Down or Sunlust, or Sunder? IMO, Going Down is the greatest, most creative and engaging classic Doom experience there is.

  • @dadude001
    @dadude001 2 місяці тому +2

    Wake up babe, new Trav Guy video just dropped

  • @ShadesMan
    @ShadesMan 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice video! ... And Plutonia's pretty good too!
    Loved the end with your improvised intertext, he'll can pound ya anytime I suppose! 😅

  • @AkiDave
    @AkiDave 2 місяці тому +2

    Trav is cooking again 🔥

  • @JamesPaddockMusic
    @JamesPaddockMusic 2 місяці тому

    What I'm learning from this video above all else is:
    Drugs are really really cool.

  • @neroheart34
    @neroheart34 2 місяці тому +1

    Just from the thumbnail, my immediately thought was somecallmejohnny's review of Doom game, especially final doom

  • @DeputyDexin
    @DeputyDexin 2 місяці тому +2

    Trav man returns with peak content

  • @CricetoFunni
    @CricetoFunni 2 місяці тому +1

    20:12 I can confirm, it does.
    Seemingly not on mobile though, only on desktop. Probably the only cool feature UA-cam has added in years.

  • @ayyyyph2797
    @ayyyyph2797 2 місяці тому

    15:29 I do wonder if the Casalis ever did Q1/Q2 mapping now that you brought that up

  • @backslash9736
    @backslash9736 2 місяці тому +2

    Cool, now do the master levels

  • @anitabath8315
    @anitabath8315 2 місяці тому +1

    Cool sponsor. I might have to play princess peach showtime with a nixi. Idk.

  • @Arivia1
    @Arivia1 2 місяці тому

    Trav that intro animation was a work of art.

    • @ThatTravGuy
      @ThatTravGuy  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks! I spent too long on it

  • @thepressotm5048
    @thepressotm5048 2 місяці тому

    Plutonia for me it's one of the best Doom campaigns along Doom 1's and Doom 64

  • @zaphtal
    @zaphtal 2 місяці тому +3

    trav upload YIPPEE

  • @amydoesart3724
    @amydoesart3724 2 місяці тому +1

    The thumbnail perfectly illustrates my feelings toward plutonia

  • @lozmaster6441
    @lozmaster6441 2 місяці тому

    20:17 TravGuy, I can confirm that the like button does jump when you press it, though idk if that's just a mobile thing or not

  • @roolz272
    @roolz272 2 місяці тому

    the best thing about this video is that learning that trav likes pikmin

  • @bujilou
    @bujilou 2 місяці тому +1

    MORE DOOM?! YES PLEASE

  • @Shellshock39
    @Shellshock39 2 місяці тому +10

    TNT Evilution: DOOM 2 but make it bigger.
    Plutonia Experiment: DOOM 2 but make it harder.

    • @beaniewearingbastard3125
      @beaniewearingbastard3125 2 місяці тому

      More like "DOOM 2 but make it cruel and replace 85% of the monsters with revenants, chaingunners and archviles"

  • @meggubravo8373
    @meggubravo8373 2 місяці тому +2

    Ah yes
    The Pain Experiment
    I played through this while making dumb jokes with a friend
    Edit: Run 'Em Gun 'Em Kill 'Em is my favourite track

  • @eljaminlatour6633
    @eljaminlatour6633 2 місяці тому +1

    In map 27: anti-Christ, you can kill the Arch-vile that endlessly respawns the Heavy Weapons Dude, you need the rocket launcher for it. Sure the rocket wouldn't touch him, but the splash damage will.

  • @Zelgados
    @Zelgados 2 місяці тому

    Picking one song from this pack to be my favorite is a tough call. It would definitely be one of bucket's songs or stewboy's songs. Death's Toll always stuck out to me, but bucket's midis are really high energy and fun to shoot demons to.

    • @fissilewhistle
      @fissilewhistle 2 місяці тому +1

      Plummeting is my favorite. What a banger.

  • @lavenzavantas
    @lavenzavantas 2 місяці тому

    playing Plutonia on UV was one of the most painful gaming experiences I've ever been through.
    10/10 it's my favorite classic Doom game

  • @novanebulous1999
    @novanebulous1999 2 місяці тому

    The like button lit up when you said "smash that like button"

  • @cjtheboi1918
    @cjtheboi1918 2 місяці тому +1

    Ok, real talk, for half a second I thought the beginning song was Chemical Plant from Sonic 2

  • @muizzsiddique
    @muizzsiddique 2 місяці тому

    I like the HD Plutonia Experiment logo. Obviously it isn't 100% faithful but it is really cool.

  • @The_Nametag
    @The_Nametag 2 місяці тому

    Final Doom (and the Master Levels) are included in the purchase of Doom II on Steam now. You get the Unity version, as well as the original DOS versions.

  • @SkoobyDooBop
    @SkoobyDooBop 22 дні тому

    Came for the CIVVIE 11 reference.
    Wasn't disappoint.

  • @doomslayer539
    @doomslayer539 2 місяці тому

    i hope you continue these doom reviews with some custom wads

  • @LezzyMania_02
    @LezzyMania_02 2 місяці тому

    This is where my Chaingunner PTSD comes from.

  • @noot4622
    @noot4622 2 місяці тому

    Your humor is always great. Great job on Go 2 It with only 4(?) deaths.
    May I ask which player created wads you've played? What's your experience with 'slaughter'?

  • @imkindadumb5351
    @imkindadumb5351 2 місяці тому

    I searched for “chain gunner asmr” and this came up (nah but excited for the video)

  • @CommanderBroShep
    @CommanderBroShep 2 місяці тому

    20:10
    Saying Like in a video seems to make the Like Button glow all rainbow-y. So yeah, it does something.

  • @tomasmichaels642
    @tomasmichaels642 2 місяці тому

    Uh oh! Trav got his fingers burned off with plutonia from the Casali brothers. Womp womp

  • @ZomBro_BOSS
    @ZomBro_BOSS 2 місяці тому +1

    Holy Mary mother of Joseph, it's here

  • @gamestation6988
    @gamestation6988 2 місяці тому +2

    The like button jumps

  • @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160
    @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 Місяць тому

    14:26 the explanation for the weapons cube
    There’s a second player start added 2nd in the map put outside the playable space on a lowering floor to touch weapons with lines around the cube that when walked over by doom by lower the floor and make the extra player body grab the weapons.
    If the alternate player start was placed first the map wouldn’t work as it makes that where the player enters from and the body the player gets to control.
    TNT does that for that puzzle that instantly kills doomguy for getting the sequence wrong by making each incorrect spot have a line placed to teleport the player onto an extra body added after the one in the normal play area to telefrag themselves.
    If I put 2 player 1 starts the one that player 1 actually gets to use is the first one in the map.

  • @joshjames582
    @joshjames582 2 місяці тому

    Final Doom gave me irrational trust issues in video games.

  • @ScootsLounge
    @ScootsLounge 2 місяці тому

    I have a Nyxi controller myself, and genuinely it's really really nice. I should toy around with mine a bit more, but it's really smooth, very clicky which I like, and most importantly it just fucking works. And no drifting so far, which is why I bought one.

  • @SohakmetGameplay
    @SohakmetGameplay 2 місяці тому

    It's funny how you rate maps like Onslaught as decent mainly because you're not pistol starting. When you have all your weapons, that whole beggining portion isn't a big deal. Just clean up the chaingunners and cacos, nbd. Pistol start it and suddenly you're just forced to run because you cannot stay around for long, making that whole starting portion a mess until you finally get the SSG after going through the sewers.
    My fav track from this pack is Cry of Desperation from MAP31. I like moody tracks and that hits all the right spots.

  • @pockalock4764
    @pockalock4764 2 місяці тому

    Babe wake up he finally made the plutonia video

  • @crimson7204
    @crimson7204 2 місяці тому

    Duuuuude I do the same thing when I'm high! I'll write down random stuff and it's the funniest shit I've ever seen lmao

  • @jimboanimations4041
    @jimboanimations4041 2 місяці тому +3

    I played Plutonia recently and sadly didn't enjoy it. While I don't mind difficulty in my Doom WADs, the combination of confusing level layouts and trial and error encounters burned me out quickly. I never ended up completing the last level.

    • @jasonyesmarc309
      @jasonyesmarc309 2 місяці тому +1

      The trial and error problem is HUGE. I understand that a lot of people like the challenge, but I also think people who enjoy it have also played it before, enjoyed the REplays, and forgot their first time.
      This entire WAD seems like the poster child of "nobody but the authors tested these levels".
      90% of the enjoyment comes from already knowing the maps beforehand. If it's your first time playing, absolutely nothing makes any damn sense, and your only hope is to save-scum your way through.
      And you cannot convince a lot of Plutonia fans that this WAD is filled to the brim with this critical game design flaw, because they all know the levels already, so their POV inherently robs them of the ability to see this.
      I beat Plutonia and took design notes as I went, and it was horrendous. Felt like a hazing.
      Fun fact: Extreme/sadistic challenge does not require broken design to exist.

    • @jimboanimations4041
      @jimboanimations4041 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jasonyesmarc309 As someone who loves extreme challenges and enjoys making them even more? I agree massively. It is one thing to make a game that frequently requires a player to take a few tries to figure things out, but it is not fun when the majority of the difficulty comes from hazards appearing without warning. One of the biggest things I have learned with designing such challenges is to always give the player a chance to see something is coming *before* they get hit, rather than sucker-punching them immediately. Even if the telegraph too short for most to act on pure reaction, being able to spot a threat coming and still run into it feels much more fair and potentially memorable than something coming out of the blue.

    • @jasonyesmarc309
      @jasonyesmarc309 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@jimboanimations4041EXACTLY. If a player is not given any information before being punished, then it's just meaningless randomness, and the punishment is hollow and a waste of time.
      In Plutonia, most of the information is only provided after death. There is nothing for the player to do with that, except load from a save, which directly rewards and promotes save-scumming.

    • @jimboanimations4041
      @jimboanimations4041 2 місяці тому +2

      @@jasonyesmarc309 Definitely. I felt like the last couple levels in Plutonia amplified this issue, given how large they were and how open some ended up being. I honestly had more fun with Go 2 It than Odyssey of Sounds for that reason. While Go 2 It is harder in almost all regards, it also has a simple goal, is reasonably short, and gives you some reaction-time for most encounters.
      I have been getting into Doom mapping myself, and while I am trying to be careful with difficulty on my first maps, I am still taking what I have learned and holding it closely for making this campaign. Everyone loves a surprise in Doom, but few enjoy having to reset because of something you could not have dodged without preemptive action.

    • @jasonyesmarc309
      @jasonyesmarc309 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jimboanimations4041 100% Go 2 It is the gem of Plutonia and where things were done well. It is a brutal and amazing challenge and doesn't lock away necessary information.
      Wishing all the resolve for making your own maps. It's a super fun and satisfying process, but requires a lot of ideas! It sounds like you have an excellent understanding of game design, though, so I'm certain you'll do great!

  • @aanproduction1516
    @aanproduction1516 2 місяці тому

    I've wasted an ice-cream on this review. I want my ice-cream back

  • @NonEmployee
    @NonEmployee 2 місяці тому

    20:13 Not in this video, but yes, I have seen it happen before in other videos. Not just the like button either, the subscribe button can too if you say "subscribe."

  • @jackandcoffee1145
    @jackandcoffee1145 2 місяці тому

    "Winners don't use drugs. Except steroids. In which case, use lots of drugs!"

  • @8-BallBlues
    @8-BallBlues 2 місяці тому

    BABE WAKE UP NEW TRAV VIDEO
    Also 1:35 holy shit hi :)

  • @kesshinton2129
    @kesshinton2129 2 місяці тому +3

    What was the intro music? Please.

    • @Cyberkaiju
      @Cyberkaiju 2 місяці тому

      Plusfort by Bucket for the Plutonia MIDI pack

    • @kesshinton2129
      @kesshinton2129 2 місяці тому

      Thanks.@@Cyberkaiju