The Real Fake Dead George Mallory

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  • Опубліковано 10 гру 2023
  • A look at two not-so-deepfakes used in the Mallory and Irvine story of their 1924 climb of Mount Everest.
    Also looks briefly at Chinese propaganda being put out as so-called "Mallory and Irvine" content
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  • @JohnDavidHays
    @JohnDavidHays 7 місяців тому +23

    Succinct and pithy as usual, Michael. I remember a 1999 post from Tap Richards, where he states quite clearly that ALL the expedition information should be made public. This has never happened and it’s still cat and mouse with those folks today. Along with the static “Mallory & Irvine Tragic Failures Narrative” that was put out in 1999, it’s no wonder mountaineering stakeholders are frustrated and highly distrustful.

    • @getoffenit7827
      @getoffenit7827 7 місяців тому +1

      I doubt the team actually even own the video/photos entirely...somebody else owns key images/evidence...thats why very little has been released for public viewing,They cannot show what they dont own

  • @jupite1888
    @jupite1888 7 місяців тому +16

    Seen that Documentary many times and never knew that and to Fake a important event like that is unbelievable and disgusting when they say they admired Mallory and Irvine

    • @drctrs
      @drctrs 7 місяців тому

      By modern standards, it's pretty much ok. At this point, every doc is a mocumentary. Good luck finding any documentary without "re-enactment" and other "reality enhancements" these days.

  • @offlicence134
    @offlicence134 7 місяців тому +10

    I had a chuckle when Michael mentioned the increasing Chinese narratives on other channels.

    • @kamakaziozzie3038
      @kamakaziozzie3038 Місяць тому

      CCP spends significant amounts of money to keep narratives where they want them

  • @bertfairbrother7745
    @bertfairbrother7745 7 місяців тому +9

    Thank you Mr.Tracy. As straight and factualy accurate as always possible. 5*

  • @TheGotoGeek
    @TheGotoGeek 7 місяців тому +13

    Using a fake body and location makes sense to me as long as they note that it’s a re-creation in order to protect the Mallory’s remains. Oh, they didn’t? Shocking.

    • @toniwertman4818
      @toniwertman4818 7 місяців тому

      It’s all about money and book and movie deals. And protecting that ability Drone footage. The body. All of it. Theses people are constantly lying and the ones that aren’t have disassociated themselves from the main clan.

  • @opowqte
    @opowqte 7 місяців тому +6

    You are a Trail Blazer ..and are deserving of top honors. Thank you for coloring the very faintly lit black and white faded picture of what has become the very trampled upon story of two of the worlds greatest explorers. I, for one, appreciate your effort and always look forward to your videos. I know you won't comment, for your not in this for praise nor money. But I say thanks for I love Truth and Justice to come to such deserving and heroic men. And it seems to me you are dishing out both with a fairly large shovel.

  • @badcampa2641
    @badcampa2641 7 місяців тому +20

    The Chinese gov is absolutely deplorable.

    • @GopherInTN
      @GopherInTN 7 місяців тому

      Ours isn’t a whole lot better if you want a factual accounting

    • @badcampa2641
      @badcampa2641 7 місяців тому +1

      @@GopherInTN but you wont disappear for saying so

    • @GopherInTN
      @GopherInTN 7 місяців тому +2

      @@badcampa2641 tell that to the Jan 6 guys. They would call you a damn liar

    • @badcampa2641
      @badcampa2641 7 місяців тому +2

      @@GopherInTN in China they would all be executed with no Q&A

    • @kamakaziozzie3038
      @kamakaziozzie3038 Місяць тому

      Communists just doing their commie stuff.
      Nothing has changed with Marxists historically

  • @getoffenit7827
    @getoffenit7827 7 місяців тому +2

    Excellent! 00:38 tuesday morning here in Cebu,Philippines i cant sleep and the coffee pot just dinged.

  • @somjasa
    @somjasa 7 місяців тому +5

    it's not hard to understand why the exact location of Mr Mallory's body wasn't revealed. When items appear to be found all over the mountain my hair turns grey and sparse...
    Will we ever know within reason, what happened to Mr Mallory and Mr Irvine on their last climb of Mt Everest? For some reason their story affect me greatly and I so wish more question marks can be straighten regarding everyone and everything surrounding their expedition..

    • @somjasa
      @somjasa 6 місяців тому

      Yeah...@realityreviews2314

  • @jvowen6555
    @jvowen6555 7 місяців тому +2

    And I thought I was cynical BEFORE watching this video!

  • @GopherInTN
    @GopherInTN 7 місяців тому +3

    So the photos we have seen of Mallory up til now have been fakes? Confusing the hell out of me now

  • @Gundus1000
    @Gundus1000 7 місяців тому +2

    My opinion is, that You went to deep into the rabbit hole. To give up the common ground on which we stand, means You have to ask, if Mallory and Irvine ever undertook their last expedition...

    • @EFCasual
      @EFCasual 7 місяців тому

      Lol. There is no common ground. We are not one people.

  • @localbod
    @localbod 7 місяців тому +3

    It astounds me that people would go to such lengths to create fake content. There is obviously a reason for it.

  • @the_card_closet
    @the_card_closet 7 місяців тому +2

    Either Conrad is 4 feet tall or the body is 8 feet long. Maybe the yellow suit just makes Conrad look shorter.

  • @kiwicory100
    @kiwicory100 7 місяців тому +1

    Why let the truth get in the way of a good story right? Anyway thanks so much for your perseverance.

  • @denverfletcher9419
    @denverfletcher9419 7 місяців тому +1

    If you need to use fakes to make your argument, it's a good bet that you KNOW your argument is wrong.

  • @Nic-bd6bj
    @Nic-bd6bj 7 місяців тому +2

    nice thumbnail 😅

  • @viruk78
    @viruk78 5 місяців тому

    There is a possibility that Mallory’s family employed lawyers to put a gag order on allowing photographs or video footage of their deceased family member being released for public consumption. This would mean that the crew might need to use a deep fake to recreate the scene in order to release their finding. It might also explain the different jacket Anker was wearing. I’m not saying this is what happened but it may be a possibility.

    • @michaeltracy2356
      @michaeltracy2356  5 місяців тому +1

      You can buy a photo of Mallory's dead body from Jake Norton's website, so it is not likely there is some "gag" order in place. You can see video of his dead body on UA-cam, so their attorneys would be pretty bad ones if they did get a gag order that applied to only 1 person while letting everyone else share the photos and videos.
      There are a number of reasons they could have used the fake footage. The main criticism is they didn't just put "recreation" down at the bottom and that they sanitized the "find."

    • @viruk78
      @viruk78 5 місяців тому

      @@michaeltracy2356 thanks for the clarification, Michael. Appreciated.

  • @rogjackson
    @rogjackson 7 місяців тому

    I must admit that a negative inference must be drawn if they failed to label the faked body as a recreation. Sketchy indeed. And yet, still interesting.

  • @scorpio4080
    @scorpio4080 7 місяців тому +1

    Instead of re-creating any of it, why not just talk about it. I've watched that show several times and there is no mention this is a re-creation, though I suspected it looked odd at the time. This stunt just discredits that group of individuals. What else is fake ?

  • @jackharle1251
    @jackharle1251 7 місяців тому

    Be careful, UA-cam loves shutting down accounts that are negative about China. Friends of mine are on their fourth account. Peronalky,I love Winnie the Pooh

  • @rodbelding9523
    @rodbelding9523 Місяць тому

    Wait, so that "Discovery of Mallory's Body" video that has millions of views is fake, and no one knows it's fake? Wow.

    • @michaeltracy2356
      @michaeltracy2356  Місяць тому

      The video doesn't have "millions" of views. And it is more like Santa Clause -- many people know it is fake and they just go there to watch the idiots who still believe it is real. But if you read the comments, you'll see a good number of people who are smart enough to figure out that Santa Clause is not real and they think they are the first ones to figure it out.

  • @roden70
    @roden70 7 місяців тому +2

    So Mallory and Irvine are both still somewhere on Everest? Why did they fake it? It's not a game and there are still family members of those 2 men alive today! It's disgusting to fake a whole documentary on "finding" George Mallory.

    • @nellyx1x493
      @nellyx1x493 7 місяців тому +7

      Just to avoid any confusion... they did find Mallory in 1999, real video and 100's of photos were taken at the time (most of which have never been released to the public). They faked this particular scene for the film narrative, for effect... and probably more practical reasons. More pertinently we need to ask why the original film wasn't used, and also why those original photos need to remain hidden from view.

    • @bertfairbrother7745
      @bertfairbrother7745 7 місяців тому

      Exactly..
      @@nellyx1x493

    • @somjasa
      @somjasa 7 місяців тому

      With regards to their families maybe?@@nellyx1x493

    • @roden70
      @roden70 7 місяців тому

      @@nellyx1x493 Okay, thank you. But those a good questions indeed. What are they hiding?

    • @GopherInTN
      @GopherInTN 7 місяців тому

      @@roden70 my guess is that the chinese want to be the mover and shaker on everest, hence all the shoddy reports and lies about their 1960”summit” which i doubt even happened.

  • @toniwertman4818
    @toniwertman4818 7 місяців тому

    Is there no shame !!!?

    • @michaeltracy2356
      @michaeltracy2356  7 місяців тому

      None: ua-cam.com/video/tL_RpVe9aXk/v-deo.html

  • @tonynew3047
    @tonynew3047 7 місяців тому

    A fake George Mallory ? Give me a break.

  • @lezo9429
    @lezo9429 5 місяців тому

    well, we can easily find Conrad Anker's credentials but yours is hard to come by, and you want us to believe you.

    • @michaeltracy2356
      @michaeltracy2356  5 місяців тому +5

      It's pretty easy. Just click this link: apps.calbar.ca.gov/attorney/Licensee/Detail/237779