Thanks Colin, I'm going to try and use them instead of my current control system in order to prove them so to speak, just working on the adaptor wire loom
I quite liked the "aftermarket fit" red warning bulbs: the sort of thing we used to do to our cars, along with "go-faster-stripes" and additional brake lights.
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited Well, it's achieved Mike. Nicely done. Extra smoothing capacitor is a particularly interesting idea. Begin to wonder what other filtering improvements could be done to take out another level of ripple. Might I ask why you'd consider swapping out the current controllers? Just for the retro feel (I can relate to that), or do you think the performance is actually better?
@kellypaws lots of good questions there. Don't forget most motors other than coreless types respond better to some ripple. The reason I'm considering swapping out my Gaugemaster controller is two fold, one I want to prove these old controllers are up to the job and two I want to prove to myself that I can do it
The temperature test doesn't prove much, as you said near the end, it was off-load. Try it again with a small fan or something (model aircraft prop?) on the motor shaft to give it some load.
Hi Mike, another informative, (over my head), video. So am I'm right in thinking that you can run older locomotives, good old 60's and 70's and newer locomotives, with cordless motors without having to modify the controller? Also I've got a couple of H&M clippers with a wave switch and a resistance switch, are they safe to use? Lastly how is it possible to run DCC fitted locomotives on ordinary track, ie just variable 12v track, when I thought that they needed a individual wakeup signal? Lawrence
Hi Lawrence. Yes the output of the serviced Safety Minor is OK for those older motors. But not on half wave. In order to be safe for coreless motors it's best to have the smoothed output as shown. As for dcc I think the chip in the loco has to be set for normal dc operation. Clippers use resistance control and I'm not sure that would do any good to coreless motors and or DCC chips, however I don't know this for a fact.
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited My ESU Lokpilot decoders switch automatically between DCC and DC as do most decoders. The Brawa steam loco I have also has sound on DC but with less control than DCC. Variable resister controllers like the H&M clipper or Duette. should never be used for any DCC or coreless loco. Take them to the recycling centre the matts contain asbestos and the casings are not airtight.
Most informative video Mike - thank you! 👍
One of those to add to the 'reference' library..... 🙂
Thanks Colin, I'm going to try and use them instead of my current control system in order to prove them so to speak, just working on the adaptor wire loom
I quite liked the "aftermarket fit" red warning bulbs: the sort of thing we used to do to our cars, along with "go-faster-stripes" and additional brake lights.
Haha lol yes, it all seemed like high tech back then, especially the trip warning, but I much prefer the look now
Excellent. Nice to see it reverting to standard appearance. Sympathetic improvements.
Thanks exactly what I am trying for
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited Well, it's achieved Mike. Nicely done. Extra smoothing capacitor is a particularly interesting idea. Begin to wonder what other filtering improvements could be done to take out another level of ripple.
Might I ask why you'd consider swapping out the current controllers? Just for the retro feel (I can relate to that), or do you think the performance is actually better?
@kellypaws lots of good questions there. Don't forget most motors other than coreless types respond better to some ripple. The reason I'm considering swapping out my Gaugemaster controller is two fold, one I want to prove these old controllers are up to the job and two I want to prove to myself that I can do it
Wonderful work Mike I like it keep up the good work 👍❤❤ 4:26
Thank you very much!
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited You're welcome
Very sound job. Very brave to go inside a controller. Good result.
Thanks kindly
Great test on the STEAM railcar, great info & content. Wonder what part 3 could involve? Cheers Mike.
Coming soon! hahah glad you enjoyed
The temperature test doesn't prove much, as you said near the end, it was off-load. Try it again with a small fan or something (model aircraft prop?) on the motor shaft to give it some load.
Thanks, I believe the test done would have shown some heating even off load, I was not expecting a temperature drop lol somust be ok
Hi Mike, another informative, (over my head), video. So am I'm right in thinking that you can run older locomotives, good old 60's and 70's and newer locomotives, with cordless motors without having to modify the controller? Also I've got a couple of H&M clippers with a wave switch and a resistance switch, are they safe to use? Lastly how is it possible to run DCC fitted locomotives on ordinary track, ie just variable 12v track, when I thought that they needed a individual wakeup signal? Lawrence
Hi Lawrence. Yes the output of the serviced Safety Minor is OK for those older motors. But not on half wave. In order to be safe for coreless motors it's best to have the smoothed output as shown. As for dcc I think the chip in the loco has to be set for normal dc operation. Clippers use resistance control and I'm not sure that would do any good to coreless motors and or DCC chips, however I don't know this for a fact.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited Well, Mr Dyson has a lot to answer for, that's all I can say!
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited My ESU Lokpilot decoders switch automatically between DCC and DC as do most decoders.
The Brawa steam loco I have also has sound on DC but with less control than DCC.
Variable resister controllers like the H&M clipper or Duette. should never be used for any DCC or coreless loco. Take them to the recycling centre the matts contain asbestos and the casings are not airtight.
Lol, Dyson?
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited Didn't he invent the coreless motor?
I was hoping you'd test a steamy, then again it's up to you what gets a test run first.
glad you enjoyed