I realized that Steveo was always meant to be a lawyer. If you think about. This whole movie is like a lawyer making an opening argument in a court case.
I even asked the Director if Heroin Bob was based off of that movie and bad news, he was based off of someone he knew. The director was on a live video on facebook
I lived in Utah in the late 90s. I was miserable. This movie came out when I got to high school. I cant express how liberating this movie was for me at the time. Special place in my heart for SLC punk.
He wasn't really ranting about the British. Just Americans riding the British punk wave to the point that they'd even fake the accent and clothing. When the entire point of Punk was to not conform and just do. Could have worn a raincoat, pink slippers, and a Scooby Doo decoder ring. As long as you partied hard. Fought hard. Fucked hard. And Rocked out harder.
Exactly. People call me a “punk accountant” because I would come in clothes I didn’t care about, had a harness bag with narcs and me and my friends stuff, and glasses. But all the New York hardcore legends treated me like family and no one could talk shit about me. When I saw this movie his character made me proud to not look like everyone else. I’m me expressing myself, that’s what punk is
@@PLNKYELLOWBLACK hell ya man, I NEVER dressed like a punk, shit I would have polo shirts on while thrashing and shit, just a lifstyle and a state of mind man.
@@edwarddailey21 To be fair, anyone "dressing like a punk" was just ripping off UK's street punk fashion. The American punk scene was mostly just a t-shirt and jeans.
This was such a great movie, the writers either lived here or really did their research on SLC because they had it down perfect. Too bad the second movie wasn't nearly as good. I was born and grew up in the heart of SLC and I was friends with a lot of gutter punks in downtown when I was younger. This is still my favorite movie and not just because it's about my city but because of the humor and story it tells that perfectly encapsulated salt lake and the people in it.
Omg the second movie was so horrible. The first one seemed like it was telling a real life story about a part in time that actually happened in these guys lives. I was like 20 minutes into the second movie before I had to stop because the acting was so bloody horrible and obviously just copying the exact same script style as the first one lol, and the story of the emo kids at the beginning trying to like, “take the reigns” from the punks fuckin pissed me off haha 😂 I loved Heroin Bob so much in #1… he just annoyed me in #2 lol.
@@Vikanuck his son in #2 seemed like he was trying too hard to be his dad. I only liked Shaun in the second. I was really bummed that Mathew Lillard wasn't in the second movie at all. I also noticed how they made the girl that was with them look and seem just like the girls that Mathew Lillard met in the first movie. It was just a knock off of the first one. The first one had the cottonwood mall in the opening of the movie and that mall isn't even a mall any more. It had so much of my childhood incorporated into it.
Yeah it's weird going back years and years later and realising certain characters were actually notable people, you just didn't remember they were in something this far back that you had already seen.
But at the same time. We can’t choose the environment we are born into. We can be born rich or poor and still feel like outcasts and try to break the mold in our own lives
Dudes ashing in their pockets gave me the weirdest nostalgia moment. Didn't even realize it's been forever and a gd day since I've seen anyone do that. Weird thing to remember fondly but it was the people doing it and the places it was done that remind me of fun.
@@ronnyynnor2026 lmao have you never been invited to a party at a nice house? Or been in a bar that allows smoking inside but has a nice wood floor? I'd ash in my pockets out of respect for the trees that died and the carpenter that laid the boards if it's as nice as some of the old bars around me. Rest assured it's not to be cool or anything, just taking care of other people's stuff like I'd want 'em to take care of mine if they were in it.
this is so funny 'cause I remember when I watched this as a teenager I was like "hell yeah this guy's on to something" and now I'm all "damn this guy's a jackass."
This movie was genius for its time. For a kid who grew up in a punk scene, it was important to see that it was a flawed lifestyle and that we all just need to grow up (to an extent 😉)
"This shirts illegal in several states" He was supposed to be wearing a Hawaiin shirt but that guys a huge celebrity in Germany and wouldn't be caught dead wearing a Hawaiian shirt 🤣🤣🤣 That's why that joke doesn't make sense 🤣🤣🤣
@@SpychoPete Not necessarily that he was never punk. I think it was just that punk like a lot of other things is kind of nebulous. The older you get the harder it is to keep rebelling, which is part of being punk for a lot of kids.
@@Aster_Risk To me its a combination of things but too often it's bogged down in specifics as qualifiers, a band like the Damned had it right (musically).
Are you happy with your purchase? Thats some punk ass corporate hand off type shit. Put your horns down! Go steal Fight Club or Josie and the Pussycats. Redeem yourself.
back in the 00s, i loved this movie...even dyed my hair blue (amongst many colors) because of Stevo, it was this day that i realized, holy fawk, Jason Siegel was that character in this movie! time to rewatch this as a 37 year old XD
I don't and have never lived in SLC, but I live in a strange area where the SLC punks move after they got tired of SLC. The thing that impressed me most about this movie growing up was just how accurate to the dirty ghetto kids of even my area, a fair distance away. I *knew* a stevo, I was Sean basically, and I've met. So. So. SO. many bobs.and they were all like that, really. Burnt out and fried kids who ran away to live in abandoned drug filled buildings to escape whatever was going on at home. They were angry, messed up kids with issues who were severely misunderstood by their world and family. Half the kids I would meet at these basement shows would openly admit to me, a complete stranger, that no one who cared about them had a single damn idea about where they could possibly be right now, and if they disappeared, they would never be found. They were proud of it even. A lot of those kids did disappear. One minute they would he there, rocking out in the pit, and the next they were never seen again. I tell this story if only to say, parents, please listen to your kids. Talk to them, help them with their problems. I've seen so many poor sweet babies lifeless on the floor of someone else's basement over the most minor problems at home. If your kid is doing something you don't understand, or behaving in a way you don't like, don't fight them. You will lose your child forever. RIP Heroin Bob.
I appreciate the scene that this movie grasped. It was a moment in time that has since been mimicked but never truly revived. It took a certain age during a certain time. Commercialism ran rampant and consumed people in the 80s. This was the kids reaponse to the "Just say no" "purchase purchase purchase" mentality. It cannot be revived because we are all consumed at this point. "I agree to the terms and conditions of you selling my data but I'm gonna complain about the state of things, much like these celebrities on The View" just doesn't work
@@CausticSpace Its hard when we are all consistely falling for scams and ignoring the actual conspiracys that are happening in plain sight. The modern punks seem more like activists of some sort. That all good and fine but identity politics and pc culture don't really match the punk scene of before. I'm not saying punks have to be bigots, they just shouldn't care that much and we are all selling our info to major corporations on these apps. That's very not punk
@@KarklinPumpkin I love seeing people like you who pretend that punk is only for people who hate social justice and are complete dickheads. You want it to match your views so you ignore all the punks who were against sexism, racism, and making people feel excluded from the scene. I guess you'll believe whatever you have to in order to avoid growth and responsibility.
@@KarklinPumpkin i believe it was Danzig who said Punk rock couldn't be a thing today because ppl are too sensitive. Cancel culture, identity politics all that crap goes completely against what I thought punk was supposed to be about. Granted, I was never a punk rock guy (I was more of a metal head) but I had quite a few friends who were in the punk scene and we'd have discussions about all kinds of shit (kinda like Steve-o and the one guy do later in the movie)
@@Sweeptheleg83 They also took the iconic looks like shaved and unnatural colored hair with huge tattoos and normalised it. Now nobody cares if you look like punk rockers of old, it literally means nothing.
This movie had such unique and interesting Characters. Mark and Mike are my favorites but no one person is alike and its great at adding to the story. "So Mark, whats up old man?" "FUCK!" lol...
This movie shaped the best punks IMO, was super real and didn't really hold back. And for sure instilled the better aspects of the screen you don't find in the newer generation of punks
Go read get in the van. Rollins describes how intensely violent, self destructive, and depressing the punk life was during its peak of hardcore. This movie is cool but it missed alot of realities to it
I love the focus on individuality in this movie. Each one is different like Stevo being a viewer and critic of punk and those around though he himself is a poser of sorts u til he finds his true calling in the end, Heroin Bob and his dislike of drugs being a contradiction to what people think of a punk doing in general, Mike not dressing the part but being the part, Sandy sporting a goth look and loose lifestyle fucking who she pleases, Trish being a counter to her with a reserved and more poetic personality resembling a sophisticated like attitude. The characters are so diverse and so different just like you’d find at a real punk gathering. They just all fit in their own midget way.
Thats whats so special about this movie. Not only are the graphics cool and beautiful. But this character is also breaking the fourth wall, connecting to the audience.
Remember when punk was about rebelling against authority and not bitching about posers and ranting about scenes in a mall? Damn that was a long time ago.
Wow, am I seriously the ONLY person to ever comment on this fucking AMAZING scene from a fucking AMAZING movie?!? That’s a major shame. This movie should be in the back of every single persons mind who grew up in the 90’s punk scene. Unfortunately, we all have to grow up though. But fuckin hell this movie still holds water and makes me just want to say fuck it all again and go back to my old ways lol.
@@iamthepapi7251 Aww I remember when losers used to use that word to try and elevate themselves above those they saw as “less punk than them” 😂 Good memories. Thanks 👍
@@Dave_Lakin well even though Converge Is considered “hardcore” to me they still resonate heavily as Punk and their music Is some of the fastest, hardest, most passionate stuff out there. That’s why most punks that are true Punk eventually get Into hardcore like Weekend Nachos and Counterparts exc… the Intensity and passion Is like Punk 2.0
I took acid and tripped sooo hard when I first watched this way back in the day. Man, I was fucked up. One of the best movies I’ve ever seen. I was tripping balls though, so it made way too much sense. You decide.
My first punk show was in a dirty little venue called The Cobalt, RIP, everyone called me a poser cos I wasn't wearing a jacket with patches all over and ripped pants. I was confused cos I always thought that there was no real punk since it was about being independent and raw, making a stand against the tide, but I was wrong. This was in 2013 long after real punk died but I still loved it, I drank, I was in every pit and started a few, I stage dived, hooked up with the hottest chick I saw, big mohawk, long legged, bruised knuckled, fuck off chick, stole whiskey for some guys who couldn't get in the show, and stopped a fight between two old dudes reliving the golden days, did my first bump of coke that night. By the end I didn't care what people thought cos I had the time of my life, went home bruised and drunk and woke up for school the next day and date with that girl.
That's what punk is all about. Not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks and living your life how YOU want to do it. Only real posers think you have to dress a certain way or act a certain way to be "punk."
My first punk show in 2001 was literally the funnest night of my entire adolescent/teenage years, not only that but it was verbal abuse who are legendary and was in the live music capitol Austin TX.
I was never Punk. But I loved this movie, because there were people that were Punk. Actual Punk, not Posers. And they saw a janked system, and they had real rage against it. And a very few of them rose up to do great things and impact change. More change is needed. There is always a place in an imperfect society for Punks.
There was a time when I went to local shows twice a week. All in all I eventually realized we're all posers looking for an easy way out. Read get in the van by henry rollins. For its peak of hardcore in early 80s it was truly violent, self destructive and depressing without all the consumerist bs. The scene today is completely stale compared to its peak.
@@MrSqurk yes that was part of the whole point of the film, being punk isnt a look or what music u listen to etc. its a mentality. Jasons character didnt need to be punk by dressing like one, he had the spirit of one and thats all that matters.
It's fun. But getting deep into it was truly self destructive and depressing as a result. I realized everyone at the scene were posers except the bands who contributed the sound week after week.
For those wondering if Steve o is a poser This is his sumnation at Harvard he tells the story in the past tense that’s why he says exhibit A. It’s lik his thesis or whatever So there for he didn’t sell out. He kept pushing the same ideas in corporate America
I realized that Steveo was always meant to be a lawyer. If you think about. This whole movie is like a lawyer making an opening argument in a court case.
good one mate
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……….son of a……
damn...
Lol he even says "final summation" in the essay about fighting
This is a really strange deleted scene from Taxi Driver
lol
This is what made Stu snap in Scream.
I even asked the Director if Heroin Bob was based off of that movie and bad news, he was based off of someone he knew. The director was on a live video on facebook
@@ianjamelske8371Heroin Bob reminds me of Travis Brickle because of the same Hairstyle and similar attitude.
b*tches need to go places. Pimp.
I lived in Utah in the late 90s. I was miserable. This movie came out when I got to high school. I cant express how liberating this movie was for me at the time. Special place in my heart for SLC punk.
I need out
Salt lake native here! It still sucks
Local black metal scene’s pretty cool tho
Where do you live now?
@@Skeptycx it pains me to hear you say that.
@@Skeptycx dont worry I'll join you.
His rant about British people aged like fine wine
He wasn't really ranting about the British. Just Americans riding the British punk wave to the point that they'd even fake the accent and clothing.
When the entire point of Punk was to not conform and just do. Could have worn a raincoat, pink slippers, and a Scooby Doo decoder ring. As long as you partied hard. Fought hard. Fucked hard. And Rocked out harder.
Jason Segal was the most punk person in this.
By far
Easily.
No, Just a weird Guy with violent Tendencies
@@oBabybbyuuuu that punk. Fighting when you need to, sticking up for friends. (Personal beliefs) + (Breaking society's traditions/beliefs) = Punk.
I’m pretty sure Lilly is going to love seeing Marshall beat up someone on stage lol
Always loved Jason segels character, just by looking at him you'd never expect him to be the most violent person in the movie lol
I love Jason Siegel in this movie, how punks came in all different looks, you didn't need to be about the look it was a way of life and lifestyle.
Everyday all day!
In the 2000s guys dressed like that at punk shows were the wildest. They'd fuck your shit up.
Exactly. People call me a “punk accountant” because I would come in clothes I didn’t care about, had a harness bag with narcs and me and my friends stuff, and glasses. But all the New York hardcore legends treated me like family and no one could talk shit about me. When I saw this movie his character made me proud to not look like everyone else. I’m me expressing myself, that’s what punk is
@@PLNKYELLOWBLACK hell ya man, I NEVER dressed like a punk, shit I would have polo shirts on while thrashing and shit, just a lifstyle and a state of mind man.
@@edwarddailey21 To be fair, anyone "dressing like a punk" was just ripping off UK's street punk fashion. The American punk scene was mostly just a t-shirt and jeans.
He stops mid bang to help out his buddy.. that's a true friend
The rewatch value of this movie is incredible
so easy to watch over and over. Also when he says 'do you fancy a SHAG?' I always lose it.
Yes. It. Is. 🤙💯❤️
Imagine if Steven was British. He’d probably be the same, just whining about Americans and overdosing on something.
This is one of those movies you have to show kids before they get old. Screw those 80s lovey dovey movies. This is about growing up
And so what?
This was such a great movie, the writers either lived here or really did their research on SLC because they had it down perfect. Too bad the second movie wasn't nearly as good. I was born and grew up in the heart of SLC and I was friends with a lot of gutter punks in downtown when I was younger. This is still my favorite movie and not just because it's about my city but because of the humor and story it tells that perfectly encapsulated salt lake and the people in it.
Omg the second movie was so horrible.
The first one seemed like it was telling a real life story about a part in time that actually happened in these guys lives.
I was like 20 minutes into the second movie before I had to stop because the acting was so bloody horrible and obviously just copying the exact same script style as the first one lol, and the story of the emo kids at the beginning trying to like, “take the reigns” from the punks fuckin pissed me off haha 😂
I loved Heroin Bob so much in #1… he just annoyed me in #2 lol.
@@Vikanuck his son in #2 seemed like he was trying too hard to be his dad. I only liked Shaun in the second. I was really bummed that Mathew Lillard wasn't in the second movie at all. I also noticed how they made the girl that was with them look and seem just like the girls that Mathew Lillard met in the first movie. It was just a knock off of the first one. The first one had the cottonwood mall in the opening of the movie and that mall isn't even a mall any more. It had so much of my childhood incorporated into it.
@@Vikanuck Same with trainspotting two, Highly disappointing for sure.
Pretty sure the guy who wrote and directed it grew up in SLC
If I remember correctly the guy who wrote it loosely based it off of his and his friend's experience growing up punk in SLC
I’ve seen this movie multiple times in my life and I never realized that’s Jason Siegel until now.
Me either, man. Haha!
Yeah it's weird going back years and years later and realising certain characters were actually notable people, you just didn't remember they were in something this far back that you had already seen.
Neither did I!
My friends and I became obsessed with this movie in high school. The most quotable movie ever.
Hey Mistress, do you fancy a shag ?
Yo, my cousin married Mathew Lillard’s first cousin. Got to meet him at the wedding reception. Chill guy. Just livin his life and raising his fam.
DOOOOOOM
Hugo stiglitz!!!! Here he is still in his rookie years yet to go pro!!! Yet to meet the bastards...
Lmfao
Much more!!
I love how a spoiled rich kid pretending to be a punk calls others "posers".
That’s the point
It’s literally the final line in the movie.
great you summed up the whole movie
But at the same time. We can’t choose the environment we are born into. We can be born rich or poor and still feel like outcasts and try to break the mold in our own lives
@@henshinagogotvlive9344 well said man
He's basically just describing himself.
I love this movie. Its about a poser who becomes a real punker. The quintessential heroes tale.
Ahuh
Punker
lmao everyone is a fucking poser at one point eventually you find your niche in your scene and stick with it is what i noticed from a lot of people
@@fuckedyourmom420 philosophy
@@fuckedyourmom420 that’s a rather good point.
"There's a movie on there!"
Goddamn treasure this movie is
"This.... looks like a silver record. But it's not a silver record.. It's a Laser Disc."
One of the best parts of this movie is when Christopher McDonald walks in. Plus Hugo Stieglitz is there also.
"i didn't sell out, i bought in"
what? no he's not
Fuck yeah that is stiglitz!
@@gizmothehusky7676 no, you idiot. he was never in this movie
THATS A BINGO
Dudes ashing in their pockets gave me the weirdest nostalgia moment. Didn't even realize it's been forever and a gd day since I've seen anyone do that. Weird thing to remember fondly but it was the people doing it and the places it was done that remind me of fun.
Still do if there isn't a ash tray or I just rub the ash into my pants
@@PissBreakSupervisorOleHopkins lol I havnt done that since I was like 17, get yourself a fuckin ashtray man 😂
Why not the ground or floor? So radical hiding your cigarettes ash in your pocket 😂🤣
@@ronnyynnor2026 lmao have you never been invited to a party at a nice house? Or been in a bar that allows smoking inside but has a nice wood floor? I'd ash in my pockets out of respect for the trees that died and the carpenter that laid the boards if it's as nice as some of the old bars around me.
Rest assured it's not to be cool or anything, just taking care of other people's stuff like I'd want 'em to take care of mine if they were in it.
@@SirTorcharite downright decent of you
I'm still waiting for that firecracker to go off.
it was a smoke bomb
Yeah it was a smoke a bomb
this is so funny 'cause I remember when I watched this as a teenager I was like "hell yeah this guy's on to something" and now I'm all "damn this guy's a jackass."
After all, it is just a movie...
This movie and suburbia was some of my favorite movies in the 90’s
Me ranting to my wall of posters at 2am:
I feel like he was actually just going on a rant for an hour and this wasn't meant to be a scene haha
" if you USED to be a punk rocker ....then you weren't a punk rocker"...... Sammytown from FANG.
I dress in red wings not docs, and wear wranglers not levis, but the black flag still goes on every so often
I feel at some point you turn from aesthetically punk to intellectually punk, once its too much work to put on the whole get up.
@@ArmyBoiSweat why not both?
Sammytown also killed someone.
Mike is the homie you want around in any sketchy situation. Except for maybe replacing your cracked windshield.
This movie was genius for its time. For a kid who grew up in a punk scene, it was important to see that it was a flawed lifestyle and that we all just need to grow up (to an extent 😉)
I absolutely loved this movie growing up. Good ol days of the Casualties, the Unseen, the Misfits, Leftover Crack/Choking Victim, etc
Punk rock.
New York had the haircuts, London had the trousers, but Belfast.. Belfast had the reason.
Aye Stiff Little Fingers, greatest band ever
@@eamonwright7488 you know it big son.
Watching this clip makes me realize I've seen this movie way too many times...and I'm getting old.
They just don't make punx like they used to
🤬 we are not old mother f°cker!!
This is the attitude we're missing in this world. Bring it back. We need self-reliance and real disdain for authority again.
It will be the children of Gen Z they won't want to be like their parents.
What we need is to burn all capitalists
@@willywonka7812 there is still no better system. You want to burn it because youre not succesful in it!
@@damnright1968 well, billionaires did indeed tell you as much. If only you had the wherewithal to question their motivation
@@damnright1968 'No better system' huh? The middle class is vanishing completely
"This shirts illegal in several states"
He was supposed to be wearing a Hawaiin shirt but that guys a huge celebrity in Germany and wouldn't be caught dead wearing a Hawaiian shirt 🤣🤣🤣
That's why that joke doesn't make sense 🤣🤣🤣
Til Schweiger is a legend!
There was a Trish and a Mark in every HC scene across the country
You mean Trish and Hugo Stiglitz?
By the end of the movie you realize they were all posers, except for maybe Mike
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
Shaggy and Hugo stiglitz from inglorious bastards haha love his accent
Great writing, one of the pivotal films of its time
It definitely has a cult following
It’s too the bad the sequel was the biggest piece of shit ever, should’ve left it alone
Yes it does have a cult following lol. The Fuck ya smoking?
@@mickthetic We don't speak about that
@@mickthetic there's a sequel?
This movie was the very epitome of what it was attempting to criticize.
Yeah its the whole point. The whole point is for Steveo to realise he was never punk.
@@SpychoPete Not necessarily that he was never punk. I think it was just that punk like a lot of other things is kind of nebulous. The older you get the harder it is to keep rebelling, which is part of being punk for a lot of kids.
@@Aster_Risk To me its a combination of things but too often it's bogged down in specifics as qualifiers, a band like the Damned had it right (musically).
@@omghai2u Fuck you punks don't care about what is cool. Punk is anarchy.
@@isaiahdaniels5643 definitely agree
I forgot halfway through I wasn't watching the movie and got pissed when it was over.
Grew up in Edmonton Alberta Canada and we had this same vibe growing up. Punks & preps dishing it back n forth
Steveo really was a poser
The biggest one of all lol
Shooter Mcgavin the real hero of this story
haha,this is shooters year,i want that jacket
Lol, it's shooter's tour...
He eats pieces of shit for breakfast.
One of my favs! I bought it on VHS when it came out, I still have it! 🤘☠
Are you happy with your purchase? Thats some punk ass corporate hand off type shit. Put your horns down! Go steal Fight Club or Josie and the Pussycats. Redeem yourself.
back in the 00s, i loved this movie...even dyed my hair blue (amongst many colors) because of Stevo, it was this day that i realized, holy fawk, Jason Siegel was that character in this movie! time to rewatch this as a 37 year old XD
I don't and have never lived in SLC, but I live in a strange area where the SLC punks move after they got tired of SLC. The thing that impressed me most about this movie growing up was just how accurate to the dirty ghetto kids of even my area, a fair distance away. I *knew* a stevo, I was Sean basically, and I've met. So. So. SO. many bobs.and they were all like that, really. Burnt out and fried kids who ran away to live in abandoned drug filled buildings to escape whatever was going on at home. They were angry, messed up kids with issues who were severely misunderstood by their world and family. Half the kids I would meet at these basement shows would openly admit to me, a complete stranger, that no one who cared about them had a single damn idea about where they could possibly be right now, and if they disappeared, they would never be found. They were proud of it even. A lot of those kids did disappear. One minute they would he there, rocking out in the pit, and the next they were never seen again. I tell this story if only to say, parents, please listen to your kids. Talk to them, help them with their problems. I've seen so many poor sweet babies lifeless on the floor of someone else's basement over the most minor problems at home. If your kid is doing something you don't understand, or behaving in a way you don't like, don't fight them. You will lose your child forever. RIP Heroin Bob.
Lol ill tell my children dont listen to punks go to school and listen to METAL instead
"We did it harder"
Discharge: "hold my gritty distortion and d-beat drumming"
*Laughs in D.R.I.*
Lol
Suicidal Tendencies, Cryptic Slaughter, S.O.D., M.O.D, Crumbsuckers, The Accused, Corrosion Of Conformity. Need I go on?
@@mr.wallstreet718 napalm death
siege.
I saw this movie so long ago... I just realized the tall guy in the polo shirt with glasses is Jason Segel! Holy crap...
I appreciate the scene that this movie grasped. It was a moment in time that has since been mimicked but never truly revived. It took a certain age during a certain time. Commercialism ran rampant and consumed people in the 80s. This was the kids reaponse to the "Just say no" "purchase purchase purchase" mentality.
It cannot be revived because we are all consumed at this point. "I agree to the terms and conditions of you selling my data but I'm gonna complain about the state of things, much like these celebrities on The View" just doesn't work
We need that mindset now more than ever
@@CausticSpace Its hard when we are all consistely falling for scams and ignoring the actual conspiracys that are happening in plain sight. The modern punks seem more like activists of some sort. That all good and fine but identity politics and pc culture don't really match the punk scene of before. I'm not saying punks have to be bigots, they just shouldn't care that much and we are all selling our info to major corporations on these apps. That's very not punk
@@KarklinPumpkin I love seeing people like you who pretend that punk is only for people who hate social justice and are complete dickheads. You want it to match your views so you ignore all the punks who were against sexism, racism, and making people feel excluded from the scene. I guess you'll believe whatever you have to in order to avoid growth and responsibility.
@@KarklinPumpkin i believe it was Danzig who said Punk rock couldn't be a thing today because ppl are too sensitive. Cancel culture, identity politics all that crap goes completely against what I thought punk was supposed to be about. Granted, I was never a punk rock guy (I was more of a metal head) but I had quite a few friends who were in the punk scene and we'd have discussions about all kinds of shit (kinda like Steve-o and the one guy do later in the movie)
@@Sweeptheleg83 They also took the iconic looks like shaved and unnatural colored hair with huge tattoos and normalised it. Now nobody cares if you look like punk rockers of old, it literally means nothing.
This movie had such unique and interesting Characters. Mark and Mike are my favorites but no one person is alike and its great at adding to the story.
"So Mark, whats up old man?"
"FUCK!"
lol...
Mike was the coolest of them all.
This movie shaped the best punks IMO, was super real and didn't really hold back. And for sure instilled the better aspects of the screen you don't find in the newer generation of punks
Go read get in the van. Rollins describes how intensely violent, self destructive, and depressing the punk life was during its peak of hardcore. This movie is cool but it missed alot of realities to it
It’s more punk being a fn trump supporter today then what all these stinky hippies at punk shows all follow 😂
6:03 I love the "reveal" that the venue is the SLC Indian Center.
I'll always love the fact that it's Cereal Killer from Hackers doing an existential piece on Posers lol
I love the focus on individuality in this movie. Each one is different like Stevo being a viewer and critic of punk and those around though he himself is a poser of sorts u til he finds his true calling in the end, Heroin Bob and his dislike of drugs being a contradiction to what people think of a punk doing in general, Mike not dressing the part but being the part, Sandy sporting a goth look and loose lifestyle fucking who she pleases, Trish being a counter to her with a reserved and more poetic personality resembling a sophisticated like attitude. The characters are so diverse and so different just like you’d find at a real punk gathering. They just all fit in their own midget way.
Misfit not midget lmao auto correct
Mark was my favorite character.
Mine was Sean and he was the only character in the second movie that I liked. Sean and Bob remind me of friends I had growing up here in SLC.
The genuine fucking feeling in this scene.. I really vibe with it
7:11 that quick palm to the ribcage was an american welcome. gg’s
Thats whats so special about this movie. Not only are the graphics cool and beautiful. But this character is also breaking the fourth wall, connecting to the audience.
This was Matthew Lillard expressing his true feelings 😂
Remember when punk was about rebelling against authority and not bitching about posers and ranting about scenes in a mall? Damn that was a long time ago.
The whole point about this movie is that they're all posers, they were just to young, dumb and naive to know it...
... Nah...
The whole point is bob is a badass and shut your mouth
@@topogigio7031 yes that was literally the point of the movie
in the grand scheme of life, we're nothing but posers.
Wow, am I seriously the ONLY person to ever comment on this fucking AMAZING scene from a fucking AMAZING movie?!?
That’s a major shame.
This movie should be in the back of every single persons mind who grew up in the 90’s punk scene.
Unfortunately, we all have to grow up though.
But fuckin hell this movie still holds water and makes me just want to say fuck it all again and go back to my old ways lol.
Your a fn poser!!
@@iamthepapi7251 Aww I remember when losers used to use that word to try and elevate themselves above those they saw as “less punk than them” 😂
Good memories. Thanks 👍
@@Vikanuck Punk bitch
@Socio Pathetic clearly you haven’t seen “Punk Isn’t Dead”... 🤨
Best way I've ever heard that out. I feel exactly the same way, born in 94" even
Holy shiz, glasses guy is how I met your mother guy! Bet he says "I didn't sell out, I bought in" too.
“I looove LIVIN’ IN THE CITY!!”
Beef! Beef! Beef! Beef bologna!
THERE'S SO MANY OF US! THERE'S SO MANY OF US! THERE'S SO MANY OF US! THERE'S SO MANY OF US! LET'S HAVE A WAR!!!
I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU
This nailed it
"no, its too violent". 'thank you".
as someone that was in the scene in late 90s/early 2000s, this isnt even satire.
it was this, Snatch and Fight Club in my early highschool years within my friend's circle. Ooh boy.
Yes!!! Same !! 👏👏
And then there’s “Converge”… most people will never know
What do you know about "Converge?"
@@Dave_Lakin well even though Converge Is considered “hardcore” to me they still resonate heavily as Punk and their music Is some of the fastest, hardest, most passionate stuff out there. That’s why most punks that are true Punk eventually get Into hardcore like Weekend Nachos and Counterparts exc… the Intensity and passion Is like Punk 2.0
Converge !! 👏👏👏 my first hardcore show when I was a kid!! Still listen to them! Seeing them live for the first time was life changing 😆🤙
Severely underappreciated movie.
I took acid and tripped sooo hard when I first watched this way back in the day. Man, I was fucked up. One of the best movies I’ve ever seen. I was tripping balls though, so it made way too much sense. You decide.
fav movie after all these yrs
This is 💯 where Marshall Eriksen came from.
"It pains me to hear you say that Mark, it really does."
The characters in this movie were 10/10
My first punk show was in a dirty little venue called The Cobalt, RIP, everyone called me a poser cos I wasn't wearing a jacket with patches all over and ripped pants. I was confused cos I always thought that there was no real punk since it was about being independent and raw, making a stand against the tide, but I was wrong. This was in 2013 long after real punk died but I still loved it, I drank, I was in every pit and started a few, I stage dived, hooked up with the hottest chick I saw, big mohawk, long legged, bruised knuckled, fuck off chick, stole whiskey for some guys who couldn't get in the show, and stopped a fight between two old dudes reliving the golden days, did my first bump of coke that night. By the end I didn't care what people thought cos I had the time of my life, went home bruised and drunk and woke up for school the next day and date with that girl.
legend
That's what punk is all about. Not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks and living your life how YOU want to do it. Only real posers think you have to dress a certain way or act a certain way to be "punk."
My first punk show in 2001 was literally the funnest night of my entire adolescent/teenage years, not only that but it was verbal abuse who are legendary and was in the live music capitol Austin TX.
Did it work? Are y'all married?
@@zacharymorgan9526 verbal abuse are sick I saw them with mdc in dallas
Bob was so sweet
whoever wrote this script is hilarious
Every character in this movie was a poseur.
I'm really pleased to see that there's at least one comment that spells the word correctly.
imagine a punk talking like that in 2021
Right? Those Nazis would lynch him. All speech is policed with current punks
That's why it's called a script...
They're asking for Vax pass and what you're pronouns are. Punk is dead
I was never Punk.
But I loved this movie, because there were people that were Punk. Actual Punk, not Posers. And they saw a janked system, and they had real rage against it.
And a very few of them rose up to do great things and impact change.
More change is needed. There is always a place in an imperfect society for Punks.
There was a time when I went to local shows twice a week. All in all I eventually realized we're all posers looking for an easy way out. Read get in the van by henry rollins. For its peak of hardcore in early 80s it was truly violent, self destructive and depressing without all the consumerist bs. The scene today is completely stale compared to its peak.
3:28 Everyone in the punk scene has heard of Hugo Stiglitz
"There's more?" "MUCH more!"
Jason segel character in this movie was great
Seemed like the only non-poser in the video haha
@@MrSqurk yes that was part of the whole point of the film, being punk isnt a look or what music u listen to etc. its a mentality. Jasons character didnt need to be punk by dressing like one, he had the spirit of one and thats all that matters.
Mathew Lillard is a genius actor!!! This movie made me wanna be punk... I don't think I ever got to that point.
Man, you missed out!
Same! I used to hang out every so often but never really was on the scene.
It's fun. But getting deep into it was truly self destructive and depressing as a result. I realized everyone at the scene were posers except the bands who contributed the sound week after week.
Didnt happen. No punk would ever say what you just said.
Lol Iggy Pop was punk WAY before either the Ramones or the Sex Pistols.
Gather around folks, anarchy for sale! Watch this GREAT movie about your happy little "punk" scene! Whats punk, you ask? Never heard of it either!
It's a camp classic.
For those wondering if Steve o is a poser
This is his sumnation at Harvard he tells the story in the past tense that’s why he says exhibit A. It’s lik his thesis or whatever
So there for he didn’t sell out. He kept pushing the same ideas in corporate America
lmfao I forgot Til Schweiger was in this movie... It's so awkward watching him in this after watching him in Inglourious Basterds.
I got to see this movie and believe I passed it up when it came out
yeah, well, my gutterpunk friends thought everyone in SLC Punk was a poser lol
Yeah well I think your friends are posers! So there! 😠
@@psychotropictraveler514 triggered much?
Gutterpunks are just fake homeless people.
Probably one of my fave clips from this movie..heroin bob saying i gotta do something then proceeds to cause mayhem.. priceless
Dude, those posers are such posers.
The last part of this video is so fucking spot on; there's hardly any writing that captures a vibe or a feeling of being in utah better.
It’s kinda crazy that his style is current again. Gen z, the poser generation
i saw this at the movies back in the day
I love how the squad immediately forms up
it's funny how he talks about american punk being louder and faster, but the band is playing with a british amp