New SDS 1911A1 WWII era clone
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SDS Imports, the same folks who brought in the Lynx 12ga shotgun from China, is now importing a WWII era clone of the famous 1911A1 45 ACP pistol. SDS is having them made by Tisas of Turkey. The SDS 1911 A1 seems to be one of the better low cost 1911 pistols on the market. I compare the SDS 1911 A1 to an actual Colt made 1911A1 from WWII.
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Tisas. I will not trade mine at any time in the near future, that's for sure! Very dependable gun. No malfunctions so far after two years. I don't get the hammer bite. I'm happy!.
MAC reviewing an affordable firearm? Alert the press!
He's done it before. But yeah usually it's the high end stuff
Higher end is generally more interesting.
who else remembers the cheap gun challenges? he and the cameraman jason take $400 to the pawnshops looking for cheap decent firearms and then use them to compete with eachother
@@TheStraycat74 yes, need more of that.
@@bmstylee if you can afford them...
When you can buy a 1911 for less than a glock.
Its more then likely a piece of shit then.
You buy it for the Romanticism of it, not the practicality. I’m no longer a Glock guy, but I can tell you that if one wants a boring, simple, no thrills reliable as fuck pistol, send your money to Glock.
Bought a Rock Island 1911 for $620 about a month ago. Cheaper than a Glock.
@@AlexKS1992 hell no bro my brand new glock 23 was 500 after tax out the store.
@@206guy7 Where did you get a $500 Glock, because I’m interested in getting a Glock 17 or 19.
Can you please stop ruining my future purchases. Everytime I find something sweet you go and sell it out before payday.
Finally someone said it. Before a ton of old Mil Surps have been reviewed they were everywhere now I was lucky to find a Makarov at at a gun shop. Oh and I get paid next week and by then these things are definitely going to be sold out. Dammit
@@prestonsamson3674 I feel your pain guys. This happens a lot to me. I try and collect all the makarovs I can cause I adore them like crazy. Was my favorite pistol ever sense I was little. Was the first gun I ever shot. After his video they seemed to of all vanished and ive only found a few here and there locally. These SDS 1911's should be a little bit of a diffrent story. The are still being imported and have been being imported for a year or two at least. Was waiting for a decent review on one of these before I pick one up. Glad he did the video but I agree. He fucks up and makes people hide guns. So lame.
Seriously! At least give it a good month of being back in stock on the website before having a well known reviewer upload a video on it. But that's sales, guys. They don't care about giving everyone a fair chance to buy one. That's why they don't have buying limits. My local gun shop bought a big batch of Star BM 9mm's from Classic last year so I would imagine alot of other dealers did the same. And then they were selling them for $65 more than Classic was.
Yup. Comic book UA-cam vids do the same thing. Get you all excited and bam sold out
THANK YOU!! I’ve been waiting for someone to say it! Way before this video came out I’ve been waiting on my permits to be issued and I just got them today and 95% of stores or online sellers are sold out already! I’m going to go buy one tomorrow but I have to have it shipped across country instead of driving to classic firearms and buying it.... gonna cost me an extra $35 to do it...... gur
Nice. I would also like an inexpensive M1 Garand and M1 Carbine.
Exactly. We need some Tisas M1 Garand clones and carbine clones at a good price.
@@Graydog-sx6le since tooling is long gone it would have to be reengineered. Ask Hill and Mac how hard it is to redesign a 75 year old design.
Richard Lutz not possible to make one cheap
Give me a M-14 chambered for 30-06 and I will be happier than a blowfly eating a rotting carcass.
I think as close as you are going to get as far as a cheap new production m1 carbine would be an auto ordnance. I think they usually run around $750
They’re going up in price like everything else. My neighbor recently bought one at a local store for $475. For whatever reason, he didn’t like it. I got it for $200 and a Benchmade auto knife. I feel like I got a great deal.
Wtf that’s literally a damn steal
You basically stole it 👍🏻
Just seen a local company have it on sale for like 350.
I just bought mine 2 weeks ago for 559
I went into a gun store one day in 2020 to buy my first gun with nothing in particular in mind. Saw this beauty and knew I to get it. Sticker said 525$ but with tax it came out to about 560. I was prepared to pay 600$ for a gun an I'm near Chicago so I thought it was a pretty good price for this piece of history
I have been shooting the 1911 for the last 67 years, including the national matches at Camp Perry. I think it is one of the best pistols ever made. As far as hammer bite , just place a band aid over the web of your hand before you start shooting. It works for me.
Good review.
Since my comment from two years ago, I've purchased this model, along with one of the upgraded models from SDS. They are indeed an outstanding value. The supplied box is now plastic with a fitted foam insert and 2 magazines are now provided.
"Big Daddy Unlimited is like the Costco of the gun world" - Daddy Garand Thumb.
Big Daddy?? Mmm how,do I make contact with them? Are they on the net?
Tim Navarrette
Yes they are
I just picked up an SDS 1911A1 yesterday. I'm truly impressed with it. Mine is Phosphated in O.D., but a tad darker shade of it. I got it for $348 from Bud's Gun Shop, with free shipping.
Now, my Remington-Rand can go into a much-deserved retirement.
I got one about 2 months ago at least for 349 out the door. Haven't shot it yet.
@JOE SMITH Give them a week or two. They'll have them again.
I would like to see these put up against a Auto Ordnance entry level 1911A1 clone.
The thing that impresses me the most is that they got the front strap on the grip frame right. It's not all blocky and crappy like 60 or more percent of the 1911 clones out there. Well done on Tisas' part. This makes an immense amount of difference in comfort and shootability.
When you comment on the differences with the original, keep in mind that the original had MANY small variatons among the different makers, and even with the same maker depending on the year of manufacture.
As far as reliability is concerned, I'm going with Ken Hackathorn's statement on the lower ejection port (see his review of the Govt Classic). If reliability was a problem they would have lowered it before the A1 came out. It was lowered in the Govt models to allow the spent casing to eject without denting it. Reloaders had less work to do then.
Carried a 45 as a side arm while being an m60 machine gunner in Nam in 69 took it from me when i got shot 1/9 marines in the A Shau valley
Thank you for your service.
Yes, Thank you for your service.
You sir are a patriot
Thank you for your service Marine,Semper FI
I bought a SDS based on this review and have not been disappointed. It's an excellent weapon and a great value.
i bought one too aorund 2 years ago and love it never had a jam out of the 200-300 rounds i put thru it so far
You guys really arent helping me talk myself out of it
Ended up buying one today. $415 bucks after tax and shipping/transfer fee
@jordanhicks5131 the devil on your shoulder won 😂
@@JamesBritemusic and I'm very happy it did. Thing is a joy to shoot with 200 grain reloads
I just purchased one today. I was apprehensive of the low price of $417 but the excellent build quality was very apparent. I'm very happy with it
I paid $500 today the price is going up on these guns especially since they have been discontinued
@@chicagonews1878 it’s been discontinued, but there is a new model; import marks are moved to the bottom of the frame, so of the other stamping have moved, slightly, it comes with wood with the diamond, it has a plastic case instead of the box, a manual, cleaning brush, bushing tool, two magazines, and a couple of other changes. Basically, it’s improved.
@@chicagonews1878 make sure to look for deals especially during holidays, just got mine for 350 plus tax a couple days ago
Y'all paid too much if you got the bone stock A1 model, Kentucky Gun Co has em for 320 bucks free shipping
I saw one of these at a gun show 2 weeks ago, $349. Exactly $100 less than 15 bought my Rock Island Armory 7 years ago on my 45 the birthday. I guess we can thank Turkey for this little sweetie!
Sure would1like to purchase one of these1911. Can someone help me get one?
@@timnavarrette3274 I would take a look on the "gun deals" website, and ship to your local FFL so they can get the background check going with you.
It is a "straw purchase" for anyone to purchase one on your behalf and hand it to you (very very illegal).
Hopefully your legal status will allow you to get one of these nice pistols.
When I was an armored in the Army in the early '80s, I had a number of WWII era 1911s in my arms room. Some of them had the wider hammers, primarily Singers and Ithicas. I would love to have any of them today.
I think the wider hammers was the original 1910s style. The checkering on the tip of the hammer looks like something 1910s equipment would've turned out.
SINGERS!!! Seriously!!! Good god almighty, you should have hooked a couple of them like my friend that swiped an M14 when he discharged from the Marines around '70, him and my buddy's older brother used to take it up to a pond in the mountains and shoot turtles with it, they used to always tell us we were too young to take and when we got older they'd take us, but the guy wound up selling it to a class 3 dealer before we even got in high school.
@@diktatoralexander88
They had probably been through rebuilt programs and had mismatched parts, I was in the Army at the same time he's talking about and all original ones without incorrect slides and the what not were hard to come across at that point.
That's why the military started trials for new sidearms, they were faced with having to have new parts made because spares parts were pretty much exhausted at that point and it was either spend the money on new parts and initiating a massive rebuild program or updating to a more modern design.
@@dukecraig2402 One, about your M14 story, sucks he sold it before you all could experience it.
About the 1911s... yea the original intention with the interchangeability of parts was so they could put all the parts of the 1911s into a bucket and wash them, then replace them not worrying about matching them up. Odd that the very thing they wanted with the interchangeability was the same thing that nailed it's own coffin.
I'm kinda in the opinion of since those pistols were with the USMC during their defining moments of their force (Pacific campaign) it should be the official pistol of the Corps, even if they don't use it anymore. If there's any gun that speaks Semper Fi more than any other, it's the 1911 .45.
Duke Craig
They mostly had matching frames and slides, but I’m sure many of the internal parts and barrels had been replaced. They had been through WWII, Korea and Vietnam. They were in my arms room in the 101st Airborne
It’s about time that a company made a clone of a basic 1911A1. I’m sick of the boring-looking tacticool 1911’s which comprise 100% of that market.
Auto Ordnance makes one but its illegal to purchase in California
Auto Ordnance has made a military 1911A1 clone for years. Mine shoots great, but wish it had the original short trigger - Auto Ordnance's is long and (painfully) sharply- ribbed.
@@701CPD I'd still take it. Long trigger or not. Living in California my only options for a 1911a1 style pistol would be Rock Island or Springfield
@@angelamaro3480 My RIA M1911A1 has been a pretty good gun for me. Granted, the Tisas is better.
China 🇨🇳 exported steel to Turkey 🇹🇷
Turkey turned into a firearm and sold it to USA 🇺🇸 for cost . amazing 🤦🏻♂️
His 1944 Colt may not have the wider hammer, but from 1943 on back, the originals did have the wide hammer.
The WWI 1911's had a wider spur. The A1's did away with them, but parts were mix-matched in service. My WWI Colt has a wide spur (it's not this wide but wider than the A1) and it has a longer spur than the Tisas. The knurling on the WWI is also much finer than the far more aggressive texture on the Tisas.
@@Militaryarmschannel Colt still used Wide-spur hammers on their M1911A1 pistols up until early 1944. Most of the other WWII manufacturers used the more efficient to produce, flat sided, hammer from their initial runs through completion of their contracts (Meadows, "US Military Automatic Pistols 1920-1945)
@@Militaryarmschannel when did Remington Rands come in? I had a M1911A1 U.S. army but is wasnt Colt, Remington Rand type writer company I believe
@@lucasromero9377 1942
@@shotgunsteve93 one can find all sorts of hammers on actual service pistols up until its retirement…
I carried a 60s era 1911 in the Army. I would have loved to own that pistol. It was like magic! I hit anything I pointed it at. I qualified expert with everything I got my hands on (except the M3A1) but the 1911 and I mean the one I was handed was an extension of my hand. My cousin has a Kimber, and it's a beautiful gun but it was nothing like that issue beater 1911. I used to have the serial number memorized but like everything else, it's faded away. It's probably in South America someplace now. I know a ton of them were sold to some south American armies.
Nice to see the 1911 getting some love on your channel. I just bought my 4th 1911 last week. It's a 1990's vintage Para Ord Expert in almost perfect condition. Coincidentally, I paid $349 for it.
Reminds me of my 'Ol Norinco they ran about the same price back in the '90's , and were totally compatible with Colt parts so they were easily upgraded. Wish I still had her now.
I still have mine , bought it in 1993 for $300 new.
I remember those. American Survival Guide wrote a good article about them. Damn I must be getting old.
My first pistol was a Norinco 1911... It worked but the fit and finish was garbage. You might be romanticizing it a bit.
My first pistol was also a 1911A1 by Norinco, bought 1991 or ‘92. Accurate, never jammed, but did spit off its front sight. Solid firearm otherwise. Bought a Tisas 1911A1 Army recently, so we’ll see how it runs.
Those Norincos were a gunsmiths dream. Many, many of those were used as a base for full custom builds back in the day as they were so cheap.
My Philippine and Turkish made 1911s fit and finish look nicer than any of my more expensive Colts. Add in the fact that they are about 400 bucks a pop you cant go wrong with one especially since they are series 70 design and easy to upgrade with premium quality Wilson Combat or Nighthawk parts.
Surprisingly tisas makes amazing firearms for the money. My everyday carry is a tisas zigana px-9 gen 2. I carry appendix and the gun is perfect. So many different options for optics and magazine capacity. It's a military use firearm and you just can't get much better for the price. Idk if I want the 1911... might buy a second px-9 though. Oh and many good options for a holster. Research it. I have a lot of guns and didn't expect it to be of such good quality.
Rock Island 1911's is a very good clone of the WWII 1911's. My son has one it shoots great and has had 0 issues and as a plain Jane 1911 G.I. pistol price is about $400 US.
Excellent review as always. Your review made me go out and purchase one on these to test and I am extremely impressed with just about everything.
I put about 300rds through it today and then tore it down completely and examined all the parts with the numerous original GI parts that I have.
Every GI part fit perfectly in this SDS import. I agree with you about the Philippine 1911's. I refuse to work on them anymore. I just got tired of the hit and miss quality control and having to hand fit a great deal of the parts. This is much truer to form than both the Rock Island GI series and the Springfield GI series and at a savings of between $80 to $150.
I have been shooting 1911's for over 50 years and gunsmithing them for almost that long.
Your Colt 1911A1 did have the wide hammer spur up until about 1943 when Colt went with the narrow one.
I have never gotten hammer bite with any GI 1911 and I did not get it with this one either after over 300 rds. I do have small hands and that is the reason.
The magazine that came with my Tisas was a Mec-gar and was so marked and I found it to be excellent with no flex at all.
I feel that this 1911 A1 is by far the best value for the money with extremely good machine work and attention to detail.
Time and more rounds through it will tell me how it will hold up, but the quality of the steel seems just fine.
Thank you for your detailed and very honest review.
Mine came with a Mec Gar magazine, so I just bought two more. All three are identical, and are as nice as the two shipped with my Springfield Armory 1911.
Never noticed any flexing in the mags.
Also, I had a set of old walnut GI stocks that I put on mine. It makes it look a little more authentic.
I really appreciate companies that provide these wonderful guns at a price many of us can afford.
Thanks Tisas!
Old neighbor friend when I was growing up had his service 1911 Remington Rand he had in the army. I don’t know his rank but he said when they got out, the army offered to sell them the pistol they carried. He was 3rd infantry division, told me all about Audi Murphy
Exactly most people say that no one got to buy their service rifle and so on and thats it bought of the surplus market later and its not the specific one. But there where programs that let servicemen just outright buy their equipment. Much easier than to catalog everything if the soldier could just pay up for most of the stuff.
@@bluebanana6753 I've only ever heard this happen with pistols, and only for officers. Officers in the US military who were carrying "legacy" handguns, that is ones that were no longer standard issue, were historically often allowed to buy them at a deep discount upon their retirement. It was really just an extra retirement perk.
@@WardenWolf yeah no offense to this guy but 99% of the guys that say this are full of shit. You can't tell them that though or they'll immediately go on the defense since they've been eating it up since they were little kids when their granddad told them it. Apart from the CMP and some rare accounts of officers being allowed to keep their pistols and theft it's all bullshit. Serialized equipment was turned back in in the 1940's just like it still is now ( I know Camp Lejune jokes incoming). It's kind of hard to steal and take things that are issued directly to you.
@@nra4ever2011 Well, at the end of World War II where there were countless returning troops, some things DID fall through the cracks, but it was always either small things like pistols or non-standard-issue equipment that they just might not check for. So while each soldier had to go through a standardized checklist, if it hadn't been officially issued to their unit but they had acquired it on the battlefield it might not be asked about. You would occasionally hear stories from old vets where they said, "They didn't ask about it, so I didn't say anything."
@@nra4ever2011 I knew a man now deceased that fought in WWII and Korea. Amoung his " War trophies" he had his 1911 Rem Rand 1911 he took home , a Winchester M1 Carbine, a Browning 1919A3 30 cal from Korea and a battle damaged MG42. I asked how he " obtained" them . His answer was, " we just tore them down and mailed them home......lots of us did."
i have a tisas 1911 it works absolutely fantastically and i love it the best gun i have ever had and it is my favorite gun i have ever had
Heck yeah! Been looking at this for about two months. Been wanting one BADLY! Going to pick one up next week God willing! Love the review! But let me ask this, is there any concern about Turkey's steel used to make this clone, or is everything good to go?
I bought a USGI replacement slide to replace the EOM Tisas with the lowered ejection port. It's more period correct. I also replaced the slide stop, thumb safety and MSH for WWII correct parts.
I paid $375 for mine.
Got it off Atlantic for $299.99 last week they had a add to cart promo. Amazing deal. Love this pistol.
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In Poland the cheapest Tisas 1911 in the cheapest shop is for 2500 PLN (1 USD = 4 PLN). Yeah... And Turkey is not as far away from Poland as the USA are.
Now just upgrade your mags to WILLSON COMBAT or PRO MAGS to a 8rd or 10rd for increase reliability
AI3xZJE41 YT chip McCormicks are good too.
@@BigTex65 no they did work in my Springfield 1911
The magazine is made in Italy by Mcgar.
It's a good quality magazine.
I bought one of these with a box of 100 rounds for $423 out the door! I love it!! Mine is a 9mm chamber and I'm using the WC 10 round mags. Have almost 7k rounds through it so far, and I agree, the quality is amazing for such a cheap 1911. Definitely on par with my Double Star Corp .45 that cost almost twice as much USED.
The lower injection port wasn't for reliability it was to not damaging the spent brass for reloading
Picked one up when I saw it in a local gun shop. Was wanting a 1911 a1 clone to display with my M1 Garand. Haven't shot it yet but it's a beautiful gun. Can't beat for the price! Thanks for the review MAC
I wonder how the SDS would compare to the Springfield and Remington 1911A1's. They both cost a little more and are both replicas of the same firearm. I admit that my Kimber 1911 Custom has completely spoiled me to all other semi's. I absolutely hated my XD40 and Glock 23 after shooting the Kimber. It's the second nicest shooting pistol I own, right behind my retired police issued S&W 65-2. There is no better trigger on the planet than a tuned K series S&W shooting double action.
I love my model 19 but it's a newer one. I shoot magnums through it and love it, although my friend's police trade in model 10 that is decades old has a trigger that breaks like glass and he got it for $450 at a flea market. Still has most of the bluing on it too, no rust just holster wear.
The Springfield Mil-Spec Defender has a few more bells and whistles like the dovetailed non-gi sights, but the build quality is pretty darn close.
I understand that the modern Remington 1911 (R1?) Is picky with magazines in terms of getting it to feed reliably.
I have been a huge supporter of tisas for about 5 years when I purchased one of their 1911s was blown away in regards to the craftsmanship good fit and finish and fed anything I put through it was better than the rock island I had as well. I just purchased a zigana f from sds a few days ago and wow just as impressive. Dont overlook tisas. Thank you Tim for showcasing this firearm and thanks to sds imports for bring in these fabulous sidearms
How many rounds do you have through yours? Does the metal seem strong? I want to check one out for sure but would love to know how tough the materials inside are
Nice for the price.to anyone that gets this 1911 your best upgrade is to the mags WILLSON COMBAT or PRO MAGS 8rd or 10rd
Hi, Tim.
10:20 The wider hammer on the Tisas is accurate to the original WWII 1911A1s (at least the shape is). Although, you'd find 1911A1s with the thinner hammer as well, such as your original Colt.
Thanks man!
Colt used the wider hammer up until early 1944 in the 1.7 million serial range. Tim's M1911A1 dates from right when Colt switched to the narrow hammer.
Hey Mac, will you do a review of Tisas BR9 Hi Power clone? I'm still on the fence about it.
I second that.ive always wanted to try one.
If the quality of the Hi power clones are anything like the 1911A1 clones I may get one myself. I just picked my 1911 up yesterday and this is a quality pistol for the price.
Awesome! They're aren't enough of these reproductions out there... I'll definitely be picking one up
Think there may be a reason no one makes them? If I'm buying an obsolete handgun I want as many modern additions as possible. Better sites, beavertail, safety, etc.
Me too but classic firearms shipping prices are outrageous to get it up here
Alaskan Ballistics high 5 lol. I should have mine fri/ Saturday
@@reynaldorivera7641 how do I get one of these 1911,s? Ready to buy!
Tim Navarrette
I went to the web page- signed up- found the 1912 I wanted, paid for it and had it shipped to local ffl. Then it’s a matter of filling out the paperwork- paying ffl
Another difference is that with theTisas you can readily fire hollow points, whereas with the WW2 1911A1s odds are, you can't. My Remington Rand mfg'd in 1944 takes some hollow points, but most can't. Don't ask me why. When it comes to .45s, I'll take the Tisas over any other reproduction gun out there in the same chambering. Your Colt and my Rem.Rand are collectibles, so we won't be firing them much, but the Tisas is exactly what I've wanted for my carry gun. With my Baby Browning as my back-up, I think I'm covered. It's nice to know that the Tisas 1911A1 has the Colt series 70 innerds, which I'm told by those who know, that it is the best .45 that Colt ever made. To my way of thinking, aside from the parkerized coating being somewhat thin, I made the very best gun-buy of my life when I bought my Tisas.
Some people think that I'm +50 years old, because, I like 1911's but I'm actually 28.
Some people think I'm 62 because I like 1911's. I'm actually 62.
Don’t mind me. I’m 19 Years old and i love M1911 Pistol and the derivatives of it
I have been shooting a 1911 since 1967. My Great Uncle brought it back from France after WW-1. My Uncle carried it in WW-2 . I have owned it since 1972, when I was 16. I bought a Tisas recently as a stand in for my old Colt. The old Colt is just too dammed valuable to use as a truck/utility gun anymore. Dammit! But the Tisas has satisfied me in every way. It is reliable, accurate and worth every penny of the inexpensive price I paid for it. It is almost as good as a 102 year old Colt. It is more accurate and reliable than many big bucks 1911s. Get one.
Some people think I’m in my 80s because I like revolvers lol. But I’m 27.
Nice don't listen to these Fools.they a so caught up in the polymer cheap handguns till u mentioned a 1911 for around the same price as one of them polymer cheap handguns they will look at you like you're crazy
No surprised that's a good gun...the Turks make some really nice sporting shotguns too. I have a little O/U 20 bore that looks and shoots like three times its price.....
Oh yes, I love my Tri Star shotguns, never fail me on my hunts
Lowered & flared ejection port isn't a deal breaker for "most faithful clone" status. Everything else is aesthetics. Given if you took an original and evolved it, it would pretty much be exactly what tisas has made.
Designed by a mormon, produced by a Muslim, shot "presumably" by a traditional Christian.
well I fell in love with it, ordered it picked up from my FFL and it was a different pistol! still a 1911 army standard but mine is all black with 2 8 round magazines. just gonna keep it I guess, they probably ran out of them and sent me a upgraded version. I really wanted the colt copy darn it
I just got the zig m1911 by tisas for 350 last week and I absolutely love it. Only have 100 rounds through it but for the huge price difference between this and my fathers Springfield 1911, I don’t see any severe downsides for the price tag on my clone. Love that thing
thats the one thing i need to find for my ria ,an arched mainspring housing with the loop on it. ive already changed the grips when i got the pistol ,it now has double diamond grips
Thanks for reviewing this, Tim. I've been thinking about getting one. I've wanted a GI style 1911 for a while, and I saw this one recently. I think you sold it for me.
I went to buy a Rock Island after a couple months of trying to decide best value for a 1911, but saw an all black Tisas 1911A1 service on the shelf. After handling it and seeing how the quality was noticeably better than the RIA, and after some quick Google-Fu, decided to buy it. $415 before taxes.
Glad to see I made the right choice. Saved about $70 which I can spend on ammo instead and got the better gun. I’ll probably upgrade the beaver tail to prevent the hammer bite and might paint the front sight, but other than that I’m just gonna enjoy it.
Never had a 1911 or a 45 in my fleet, so I feel like this is an amazing value.
Two World Wars, two Police Actions, over seventy years of military service!
Kevin Baker Still in use by the US Marines.
@Sheldon RobertsonYes it is.
@Sheldon Robertson Yes ua-cam.com/video/Y1xJHDwG5do/v-deo.html
Think the worst part is the ejection port. Everything else thats different you can add like marking and the slide stop and hammer you can also change. But you cant make the ejection port smaller.
As a swede that shoot pistol i am somewhat limited on how many i can have (every pistol needs to be motivated shooting a specific type of shooting and class) i would like to se a 1911 reprduction but with match grade fit and barrel. I like the style of the classic military 1911 but i need one that will shoot almost one hole at 25 yards for my shooting.
What I’d like to know is if these 1911’s are made of quality forged steel, like the old Norinco imports which were used to make high end custom sidearms. The 1911’s from the Philippines are usually made from cheap MIM castings, although so are the majority of handguns these days. 😔
@@pennywisdom9435 hey man, thanks for the info!
@@misterlukang Springfield armory mil spec 1911 is Brazil made if I am not mistaken
@@pennywisdom9435 Springfield armory 1911 mil spec is Brazil made if I am not mistaken
I have a 1911 made in 1927. Has all its original parts. 😁
Lucky guy
Honestly, this looks like a perfect project gun.
lowell houser by project gun what do you mean exactly? Like making it even more original than it is? Getting correct grips, changing the slide out for a correct one and so on?
@@memygunsandI Nooooooo. Cheap fodder to learn how to fit beavertails and do trigger jobs. Or fit new barrels, cut Novak sights, etc. Screw it up and you're only out a few hundred bucks. Also work well for anyone building a cheap 2011.
That used to be what Rock Island Armory was best for, but now it's whichever you can get cheaper. Loads cheaper than an 80% build kit.
lowell houser ohhhh makes sense now! Thanks for the explanation!
I'd rather just keep it looking original. I like the older style.
@@MeTaLISaWeSoMe95 I understand that, but for the price you can buy 2 and keep one original as sort of a historical tribute and modify the other. I agree it would be a perfect starting point for learning how to fit more modern components. Has the advantage that you're not molesting an irreplaceable original as well.
I just got an email notification from Classic Firearms.
They have the SDS Imports Tisas M-1911A1 full size government model
back in stock.
Price $399.99.
That looks pretty good 👍, and the price looks good, but I can't help it, I'm STILL partial to Rock Island Armory when it comes to 1911's.
I would like to hear more about the low end of guns like this and others. I mean is you hear low end lever or starter guns of all kinds.
This would be a great show piece for this channel to explain, Is it the kinds of materials used, The skill level and Machines and Tools brought to bare for the manufacturing of the guns?
I just bought this gun a few days ago and Want to know yes it's put together well, But will it hold as long as a colt original?
Each episode should once they bring in a starter gun and The host says it's a great gun to own, Tell us the long term short ends. I hear rock island 1911's new out of the box works great, But taken to training sites like thunder ranch and They fall apart, EXPLAIN?
I do own several Rock islands by the way!
Interesting you call the trigger "really nice." My Tisas had a snaggy and heavy trigger. I replaced the hammer for $15 and remedied the trigger creep and hammer bite. Oh, the pins wiggle out - nothing holds them in place. It's such a nice shooting gun, though.
Tisas has redone these GI replicas. Now they have genuine parkerizing, small ejection port, smaller hammer, etc. etc. They also have 100% milled from billet hardened before machining internals. NO MIM OR CAST PARTS. I have 500 rounds through mine and it’s awesome.
Should I get the SDS or Tisas? Both on sale on PSA
I was issued M1911A1s in the 80s by Uncle Sam. One of my USAF match guns had a Remington slide and Colt frame. I looked at a SDS/Tisas 9mm 1911 and it looked very well made. Fully chromed bbl with ramp and Cerakote finish and Mec-Gar mags for $450. It's as good/better than what I was issued, or any of the others issued in WWI,WWII, Korea, or Vietnam.
I wanted to buy one but it was not in California’s list and ended buying an RIA 1911 tactical which is also a great handgun!!
I recently bought an Auto-ordnance 1911A1 and I love it. It's very similar to this SDS 1911 but it's made right here in the USA.
Best classic handgun
I did notice the lanyard loop is visibly larger on the Tisas.
These Tisas 1911s are a good choice for making low budget movies that take place in the era where this type of 1911s were used. Just like the Cimarron's Uberti revolvers and rifles are perfect for Western movies.
Hey Tim, do you have any experience with the current production Auto Ordnance 1911s? If so, any preference between those versus this? This was a great review but as far as affordable GI style 1911s go, I'd still probably lean towards an Auto Ordnance just for the sake of having a cooler name stamped on the side.
I have both, no difference whatsoever, the Tisas is actually tougher, cold hammer forged barrel slide and frame….auto ordnance is probably forged, but not sure which parts exactly, and likely not the barrel
And Auto Ordnance 'probably' cost a lot more too ?!?! @@dasboot9471
For the price , you can use it to mount an original Colt 22 conversion unit and have a designated 22 .
The magazine clearly reads "Made in Italy" Mec-Gar maybe?
They are Mec-Gar but have been re=parked.
Mine is marked mecgar.
@@Rumpleskin mine too.
I got one yesterday, the mags are Mec Gar. Are Wilson Combat mags worth the $30+ price, or should I just by 2 more Mec Gars?
@@thecouldntbe Depends, if it is a carry gun, get the Wilson Combat, by far the best 1911 magazines. If it is a range gun, Mec Gar are great
Would be nice if they offered , at least as an option, a 1911 parkerized, period correct ambi safety
I picked one of these up about a week ago. The GI model. I have a grand total of nine 1911s now. And I got to say SDS Imports has done one hell of a good job with the craftsmanship and cloning it properly. Mine is the strange battleship gray color. Parkerized but I've never seen one in this color before. Battleship Gray is the best way I can describe it. I don't know what the technical name for the color would be.
Mine looks green in low light and gray in bright light. Really different finish...
In 1963 I purchased a 1917 Colt revolver with half moon clips for $ 35.00 , Colt 45 were going foe $ 45 this was a surplus gun shop on the Washington DC / Maryland boarder line . The owner said he was making $ 15 per pistol.....Wow !
The The goal at my house, where I target shoot in the backyard, is to have so many shell casings on the ground that I could walk to the target without actually touching the dirt because of all the shell casings. it looks like you’re almost there. Ha ha!
I got that "It's not a slide release" lecture just a few days ago from some guy on a forum. Yea...yea...whatever. Good review. I've got two of the Tisas 1911's, a 1911A1 (45), and a Tanker (9MM). Really nice guns.
i hope its also true with the psa dagger...high hopes for it
Still out of stock
Got my CMP 1911A1 1943 Ithaca Mixmaster since we can’t get those Tisas 1911a1’s in CA. Love shooting mine with a modern slide. I save the original slide for show. Great stuff.
Battle of the budget 1911s: Rock Island Armory GI 1911A1 vs this.
Romeo Quach I would love to see this and a torture test
I love my Rock Island. Any issues I've had with it was the ammo and not the gun (I'm looking at you, Tulammo!).
@Asian Mansplainer It just took me a bit to get used to it because it was the most profound handgun I've ever owned. But I love it and the more I take it to the range the more I fall in love with it.
This gun is honestly a nicer finished and closer copy of the original than the Rock Island GI.
He mentions this being better than the Phillipine models, aka Rock Island Armory.
I am not an expert on 1911A1s, nor do I pretend to be. But I do think the hammer on the TISAS is actually technically correct as they had a few different variations of hammers on wartime guns. Its very close from what I can tell in the video to my Remington original. So swings and roundabouts
Mine shoots great also. Just wish it had a more positive safety like MAC’s.
My safety is loosely fitted too.plenty of "clearance" in the slide to frame fit too. I'm putting a wilson spring kit in it today.i put them in all my 1911s.i like the gun.after the springs and some rubber grips it will be a great truck gun.my best fitted 1911s are my 2 American classics.
I love my Tisas 1911, quality firearm at a great price.
If you can't make a halfway decent 1911, you shouldn't be making firearms, period.
Looking at you Kimber...
Ain't that the truth...
The hammer on the Tisas is exactly like the original 1991. Not the 1911A1. Otherwise this is a really close copy. Browning invented the slide on auto pistols! So almost every single auto pistol ypu see today except a clone Luger and the Ruger No. 1 and 2s will have a slide on it. I am sure there are other pistols that have a different system but most have a slide.
At that price it would be a good candidate to customize and have a reliable pistol that is not going to brake the bank
I lived in Turkey. My Turkish friends told me that Turkey always exports ONLY their best quality Manufactured Goods.
I bought a CMP 1911 last year, but might have to jump on one of these so I can shoot it a lot more than I want to shoot my original 1911.
Seen one for 450 not sure if I wanna get it for that price
is it rated out of the box for +P ammo? if not, then i assume there are plenty of after-market +P rated barrels that will replace the factory barrel ??
I have a 1911 made in 1913. Still shoots great
i have always thought the 1911 platform is overrated.....
dont get me wrong, the originals all the way through WWII have good history, but i genuinely think that most modern firearms are just better overall.... plus, i want more than just 7rds per full mag.
MAC, can we start calling you Grey Beard?
The legend of graybeard!
It's $330 for sale @ Turner's right now. Cheaper than even the Filipino RIA 1911s.
I miss the good old days when people just called them .45s, not 1911s. Back then, everyone knew what you were talking about when you said you have a .45
I have one of the SDS Tisas 1911 Duty with upgraded performance features . Is suppose to have a more comp trigger system and hammer and mainspring I guess. Mine is the black one and I put some pearl grips on it. Its a really nice gun. They are making some really nice guns in Turkey. Of course with the pandemic everyone is buying these up so the price has went up a touch but they are great guns. Now I would say if you can afford it id get a US product like a Springfield or Colt but if your on a budget or like me just wanted to see if you will like a 1911 something like this is a great value to learn on :). Oh and get the .45 . I'm a woman and do not let people scare you thinking these guns have tons of recoil because they shoot very smooth and very easy . Everyone that likes guns should really own a 1911 just to experience the history :).
Been looking for something like this for a long time, thanks for showing me!
I bought one for $349 on Grab-A-Gun. They were sold out on Bud's and Classic Firearms. Also the price is rising, finding them for $339 is getting harder.
Thank God some else address the 'slide stop' comments. I keep telling other people the same thing. Damn serrations are on the top meant to pull it down, and they did it 100 years ago!
Alexander Guzman word to the wise though I’ve seen actual colts slide notches round with excessive use not just the poorer quality slides. When that happens say bye to last round hold open.
@@dustyak79 I'm not exactly sure what you even mean. If you mean that the notches on the slide release lever itself will wear out on old colts, well I have two response for that. One I don't buy colt 1911's everything I have seen except the m45 in recent years have been fit like hot garbage. Two, the slide release lever is about $35 for a new. If I shot my gun so much that I wore out the slide stop so badly that I lost the last round hold open, I could likely afford to buy a new slide release and get it up and running no issue. For most guns that is a non issue.
Alexander Guzman not the release leaver itself. But the notch in the slide so you would have to replace the whole slide itself not a big deal on modern quality steel but older or cheaper guns.
@@dustyak79 that sounds like it would only be an issue on the most early production 1911's made of the softest metal. Just looking at my own 1911 and how the slide stop is operated I cannot see how this would ever be a serious issue even if thay corner of the slide where to somehow be rounded enough that it would no longer catch, the slide has enough travel past that point thay any reasonable gun Smith should be able to mill a square notch back into the slide at that spot and restore the spot. Again this sounds like something that would never happen o many modern gun and would still only be an issue on very high round count 1911's. This is not a reason to avoid using the slide release as intended.