125cc | Honda Grom vs. Kawasaki Z125 Pro vs. Kymco K-Pipe 125 vs. SSR Razkull 125
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2016
- What do you get when you put four morons aboard the Honda Grom, Kawasaki Z125 Pro, Kymco K-Pipe 125, and SSR Motorsports Razkull 125? You get a race, of course! Watch our group twist the throttles to the stop as we evaluate all four bikes in the slowest race ever!
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We have since improved our audio recording and mixing. Sorry if the music takes away from this video. We hope you enjoy the video! We had a lot of fun!
Looked Fun.
So Razkull huh ?
They're just being picky babies. I wonder how the benelli 135 would do
Hey Guys, can you turn off the background music on your reviews, it is useless and makes it hard to hear what the hell you are actually saying.
Agreed.
please
they have been getting that comment for last 10 years and nothing has changed. maybe they can now learn a thing or two from reviewers like Revzilla and F9 ryan.
I like ur music so haaard! Rocks!
Ya ill never get it why people ruin their videos with music like wtf
I enjoyed the review, but man the background music... shut that off while they are talking.
Agreed.
Yes, please.
I've owned a Razkull for about a month now. Absolutely love it. I upgraded the Carb, Manifold, deleted the air box, added an air filter, and went with an M4 Exhaust. Can run 70 +mph on flat ground, and I weigh 190 pounds. Would readily recommend. I find myself on the Razkull far more than I am on my ZZR600.
Razkull Rider 125 how is the razkull doing. how hard was it to do the carb and manifold.. any tips would help I'm in so.cal and thinking of going to SSR motorsports to get me a razkull..
Check out my channel, I have videos that chronicle what I did to the Razkull and how it was done! Thanks!
Would love to see an update on these 4 same bikes. They've all gotten new tech and all I believe have gone up in power a bit.
Plus add the CFMoto Pappio to the mix. I don't think SSR is selling the Razkull anymore, but the Benelli TNT135 is same company overall and could be reviewed.
The best shootout this magazine has ever had and I put my seal of approval on it
Wow, high praise. Thanks!
I concur look like fun
I also concur.
Love my grom. Do wish the tank was a bit bigger though.
Didn't even know about the razcull until now. Seems like a cool bike
I'd want that SSR just to park it next to my Monster!
Hold Fast When I saw that bike I thought Ducati got into the 125 game
Liam Arvin Me too! But it would not cost $1,800 LOL!
Get the SSR for the kids so you can be matching.
Yeah me to at first glance
Ducati Monster is just it, a MONSTER
That ssr looks exactly like a ducati monster
Kohei O. thats a ducati monster with a Harry Potter magic spell gone wrong..
same color scheme as my street triple r :D
I thought that myself, looks kinda cool
Kohei O. Yeah, looks great! But when they're trying to say how great it is based on decals...not so confident.
i think it's more like some naked mv agusta looking
Cut the generic rock music FFS.
Yep ... totally unnecessary.
1990 yes
Agree ... pet hate of mine , motorcycle=crappy rock music ... condescending B/S.
david jay you're right... sort of like sports and hip hop.... and eating a steak and country music..
I had a good time watching this review. The only bike I was aware of within these 4 was the Grom. Thanks for bringing these others to my attention. Keep up the great videos guys!
Razkull wins for the money
Looks great too!
Grom wins on quality
as a kymco owner i have to defend it. they are RELIABLE and quick after break in. i've had yamahas and hondas that were less reliable.
The Groms a great hill climb bike... 😉
Jake TheGardenSnake 😂😂
Jake TheGardenSnake don't you regret selling it now?
Jake TheGardenSnake yees
didn't expect to find you here. how are you?
jake get a 160cc yx racing engine it will fit comes from a pit bike which the grom is a carbon copy you can get up 22hp from some of the yx engines they are beastly for the size of em
shut that music off during the dialogue please
Fess up who laid down the Z125!!! That lever is fucking curled like a mustache!
Honda Grom all the way.
The SSR design is just a bit better than the Grom, but I am a still more a Grom fan.
That kymco look like a moped than a motorcycle
jason jarrell
The Kymco is still a small bike compared to regular bikes.
I love my OG 2015 Grom and i had fun upgrading it to I put a intake pod filter full two brothers exhaust DCR camshaft and Power commander 5 with the Auto tune kit and had it dyno tuned and now it has 13.4 HP and i top out at 74mph without full tucking im 185LBS and i can go up hills at 65 in a tuck no problem next im going to do the oil spinner delete kit and might go up to a 16 tooth drive sprocket and if i have a extra 1200 bucks i might get the BST carbon fiber rims to see if i can get past 80mph without hitting the rev limiter. So for another 1000 bucks you can wake up this little motor to do so much more without spending 2500 buck for a big bore kit that might blow up lol.
so you bought a 125cc for $3200. put $1000 into and now it's as fast as a 250cc. you've spent the same money as if you'd just bought a 250cc to begin with. but now you've maxed out the 125 whereas if you'd started with a 250 you'd have a lot more to go.
and as usual,the reliability remains a big mystery in these tests.
someone crashed the z125 look at that bent ass clutch lever lol
daybreaK Right. They mentioned it towards the end of the video that it is fell over and bent the clutch lever.
well i commented before it finished
I never heard of that SSR Razkull, glad I found out about it.
this video needs an update! since the new grom came out, also there is Honda Monkey, Benelli TnT135 and Wolf Striker 125!
Had a Grom. Just did not like it. But I was asking too much from it. No real interest in this class of mini bike anymore, but still I watched your comparison review from beginning to end. ALWAYS love watching y'all's reviews, even when it is about something I don't have much interest in just so I can be in the know on things. Thanks for this vid and great job!
Really love the shootout videos that you guys do. Please do a middleweight sports tourer one too. 600-800 cc. Would be great
The Grom looks way better than my CBR125R lol.
Haha SSR look like Ducati Monster and the exhaust look like Grom/MSX 125 the old model :))
Zik Nguyen lol so true, looks like a white 696
Great video, loved the area you were riding at what a great place. 17 Z125 pro owner here and it’s a fun bike to play with and enjoyable when you’re with your crew. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Looked like the valley
Dude that was a great video comparing all 4 of them bikes ya'll should do a upgrade series for all those bikes and give us feedback
A friend of mine has had a Kymco K-Pipe for two years now and has had zero issues with it.
You guys at Motorcycle.com are awsome! Keep up the great work.
Thanks!
For every foreigner calling them out on this, we don't get the Aprilia RS 125, the Yamaha R15, or any of the other 125/150cc "learner bikes" in the US. These are the only 125's that we can get and ride on the street here.
SunzOffski It's the not worth it part + overpriced for what they are. BAM ! guaranteed fail on the land of bigger it's better mentality. 😂
Im not from the US but i can tell you why. You can do Car license and Motocycle License at age 16 and you can drive everything you want basically. Thats why you dont need 125's there.
It's always been that way with the US market. During the 80's, a lot of Japanese home market bikes were tested by magazines like Cycle, Cycle World, Motorcyclist and Cycle Guide. I have the November 1984 issue of CW and the September 1984 issue of CG. A lot of road test editors were just itching to have those bikes sold in your market but they would have been too expensive. Cycle had a special article on the Yamaha FZ250 Phazer and FZ400 in their March 1986 issue. Those bikes were actually owned by no less than the king himself, Kenny Roberts.
Akiimo actually it is because of California laws. They have a law where a bike has to have 17 hp to be on the highway, and they don't even like the bikes that aren't legal there to arrive at their dock, so the Asian makers don't bother since that is the port
please dont call em learning bikes #omahagromsquad
I'd choose the Kawasaki for the analogue tacho and props to the Grom for being the OG.
And in real world driving the kawi had more jam off the line Over a grom, I have both stock for stock
I'm 6'6" so i'm thinking i'd look like a bear on a unicycle. but I still want a Grom
My ranking of these four bikes would be:
1: Honda Grom
2: Kawasaki Z125
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Eightosaurus Spelunk nope...
FIRST PLACE - Z125PRO
SECOND PLACE - GROM
Especially since right now the Pro is on sale for $2189.
Great review!!! Thank you!
To the editing room, easy on the color correction there. The Grom looks like a soft yellow color, and it really isnt.
You need to include Sym Wolf Classic 150 next time. I have it for 4 years, and it's been lot's fun. Had it and Grom at the same time, and kept the Sym.
thanks. i really appreciate some "actual" reviews on these 125 bikes.
WHO DROPPED THE Z125?! lol
EN187 KAWASAKI Z125 SQUAD!!!
YEEETTT
I just bought a Z125pro pretty fun bike! I also have a GSXR 600 but the Z is all stock! I want bar end mirror cuz the stocks suck! Also a fender eliminator and probably change the handle bar. Also do you recommend changing the intake? I know I want a exshast too.
exhaust and intake will get you a little more power, i recommend! cheap-o bar end like I had on mine are 14$ on ebay go right on the stock handle bars no mods!
Great! Thank you do you recommend any fender eliminator ?
WAIT. Is that the most interesting man in the world?
tukayo these
looks like him...(but without a beer)
I have a Kawasaki Z125 pro and it is phenomenal. I love this thing. God willing I will never sell it.
Would it be possible for you guys to make a review on Benelli tnt series
I think your missing out on that one and it just might becomes an attraction
how do I cut out the music
@Greg Myers people who like metal like harleys and these arent sport bikes
I didn't believe that "a gust of wind" made the bikes fell haha
anyone noticed the kawi clutch handle bent?
Thrillseeker if you payed attention they spoke about that lol
I'd go with the Honda, reliability is important.
You assume that's better than the Kawasaki? I wouldn't. It isn't like the cheap Hondas are even made by Honda half the time, and certainly are not made in Japan. But that's true for the others also.
Great video, it's really nice to see how 4 similar motorcycles made in 4 different countries compare.
Kawasaki and Honda are both Japan
@@YourLocalRaccoon not made there, neither of of them
@@bens6865 I didn't say they were made there. I said the companies themselves are Japanese
SSR deserves to sell a ton of those bikes!
it's just me or looks like you guys have a "different" video quality now, not that the videos before are bad, but this feels like have a filter or something. nice.
and one great-funny video, nice!
When are you guys going to do a Honda Rebel 300 & 500 review?
Watching this again and actually paying more attention, they really shat on the k-pipe.
every review should include a drop test to see how the clutch survives
Have y'all ever tested the hyosung gt250r? I am looking for another fun bike for the stable. I currently still own my first street bike (2003 SV650) and my 2014 Victory XC. I would like to see an honest shootout comparison similar to this video, only in the 250/300cc sport bike class. Is something like this in the works?
I think that they should have mentioned the reliability of SSR's pit bikes that have been around for awhile; frame breaks, swing arm breaks, etc. No way I would drop my money on something that will most likely cause you issues, and is also likely to be gone once Ducati sues them for design infringement. They should have also mentioned that Kawasaki and Kymco have a partnership now. They don't share designs, yet, but manufacturing. The Kawasaki, although a Japanese design and brand, is built in China. Luckily though, it is to Kawasaki's standards from my understanding.
I wonder if they'll do another one of these vids next year when Suzuki and Ktm bring their 125s to the US.
How does the Razkull perform under braking and handling, between the Grom or Z125? In the vid, I noticed the Razkull seems to have less ground clearance than the Grom, true?
There's something amazing about four lads in full leathers riding around on some tiny bikes.
Awesome! These are so much fun!
I bought the Z125pro over the grom! It looks cleaner and the handling was way better for me!
I bought a Grom a few years back before the Kawi came out, thought about trading it for the Kawi but I'm already too far modded to go back lol
Sell the grom and get a kawai! The kawai is only 2,999 sell your grom!
Check out my channel I made a video of why. lol happy New Years
Would love to see a re-comparison with the spade 150
This is how fun 125s should be, tiny, lightweight and fun. Not fake sportsbikes/cruisers which are just 11-14hp commuters in frocks.
This type of bike plays to the strengths of the 125 making them fun even after you have a full licence to ride a 'real' sports or cruise bike.
I live in Cambodia where almost everyone rides 125cc because you don't need any sort of licence for it. I have a z125 but will be switching to a grom sf (marketed here as msx125 sf) in the near future. The only thing that annoys me about both bikes is that they are slower than the Honda Click 125i, which is a popular scooter for schoolgirls/teenagers here. I don't get it. Why are these bikes slower than some of the cheaper 125 scooter counterparts?
Scooters are lighter and CVTs accelerate faster
Because these are show bikes or stunt bikes primarily. Not fast sport bikes.
Monsta Munch Whack a bigger front sprocket on if you want more top speed :)
Damn thank you for this video but are any of them good for a commute to work 24 miles everyday ?
what i wouldn't give to have a YSR50..... back in the day, those bikes had great aftermarket support. these bikes will probably get the same attention. the prices for the honda and kawi are ridiculous, though.
I have a grom and I have to be honest I absolutely love it, things a blast!
Yea you gotta figure the aftermarket support for the grom and z125 are alot better than the others also cause that is a massive deal with these things they are all about the mods and is part of what makes them so fun
Constructive note: the sound mix on this video needs to be rebalanced, the fill/background is overlapping the reviewers voices.... peace
Buying an fz07 as my first motorcycle soon. Thinking about buying an ssr for my younger brothers to learn on soon after now.
I've ridden all of these bikes. I bought the kymco k-pipe. Have had it about 8 months now and beat the piss out of it. It's a good bike for the money and can defiantly take a beating on or off road. Also k-pipes have been around in the philipeanes for a long time now it's tried n true bike. Fact: kymco makes Kawasaki and hondas small engine castings.
crono72000 opinion on the razkull? Local dealer sells and services them. Seems nice for a secondary beat around bike
I want to know more about the k-pipe! How does it handle cruising trails off road? I live right beside some big mountains
with the 2 little mods i did on my vader 125 i love it!
+motorcycle.com where can I buy the razkull because the shops in their store locator doesn't seem to have them based on the website inventory. I live in Los Angeles and I would like to buy one to ride around
lovey video. subscribed!
Great... now I want a Razskull as a pit bike to go along my Monster 1200 now ....
do you think you guys could do a 650cc sports bike shootout Kawasaki just came out with their new 650 be awesome to see
I like the Grom and z125 the best
Kawasexy! I love Honda as well!
anybody know where this video was shot, what road they were on more specifically?
I'm 6.2
Do you think the small ones, with a good set of tires would give confidence and provide enough fun in a go kart racetrack (do they scrape the pegs easily?)
As long as you set the suspension up for the weight of who is riding it and the environment, should be fun, don't see the problem.
That's what inspires confidence first and foremost. Even if you have the best tires for that environment, if the bike wobbles, squats instantly, bounces and dives instantly when a moderate amount of brakes are applied, doesn't matter what tires you have.
Hey when you guys doing a 2018 125 cc shoot out ?
Another plus for the Kymco is it doesn't have an underslung exhaust, so much higher ground clearance. You could put knobbies on it (plenty of motard options with 17 inch rims) and go offroad.
Just got my Z125. Love it.
Do you know the weight capacity on the vader??? thinking of getting one but im 285lbs.
We got plenty of cheap used very low mileage Cbr125 here in Canada for less than 1000 $ , want to know how it will outperform all of these horizontal clone (or not ) cub motor .
That SSR looks like like a mini version of the Ducati Monster
I put a 181cc big bore kit on my grom pro taper bars and T rex crash cage 50 stunt axle pegs out of all my bikes its the most fun
beautifully shot! great boys toys
If you had the money to buy the grom or the Razkull, which one would you buy? I really like the design of the Razkull and is also $1k cheaper, but I know the fuel injection will probably be better.
the rascall looks the bestput together to me, I see videos of people breaking there groms all the time, the foot pegs come off really easy
The SSR Razkull is a direct Ducatti Monster rip in styling lol
After watching more of the video, I realise now, they actually say that...
You'll end up paying as much as the grom in mechanic charges and parts of you buy either the kymco or rascal 😂
jerkBT kymco is actually great on quality, kymco is a honda subsidiary you muppet xD
Kymco is actually an extremely reliable brand for scooters. AND they made Honda Engines for years.
I may not like the styling of the Kymco but their quality is right there next to Honda
Mate I have a k pipe 125 for almost 3 years. 27.000 k done :) never stopped. Excellent bike.
Francisco Pais Teixeira man you're lucky, mines got just over 2k miles and its left me on the side of the road at least 5 times haha
Is the Ssr bike also sold in Europe? i really like it
5:27 What did you guys do to the Z125 clutch lever!?
SSR stands for "Super Safe Rides" but i've seen their engines snap in half and SSR refused to warranty manufacture defects. After years of selling their products I had to stop because they left customers with broken and dangerous vehicles. When you buy one, just remember the "Warranty" is useless. Great looking bike otherwise!
I have a Grom and love it. I also have a vmax and a drz. The grom is my favorite.
If you're older and looking for a utility bike? The K is the only choice. Normal size and pretty good top speed (70) even for single exit freeway trips to the store or work. I'm 52, 5'11" and 205 and felt like a mouse on the Honda and Kawasaki. Silly for adults...
How did the SSR land on the clutch lever side falling off the kickstand? Physically impossible unless the kickstand was folded up....
If u want one of those bikes in norway you can multiply the price in the states with x2,3 :/
Jaeta only x2 or x3?? Its about $3300 here in the states. Times that by 2 or 3 that's only $6600 or $9900. $3300 usd in Norwegian kron is $27,700! Its way cheaper there!
I can’t decide between these bikes they’re all new from the dealership. The 2018 Grom at $3900 OTD, 2017 Razkull at $2500 OTD, or 2017 Hellcat $1000 Shipped.
How nice! I have a K-pipe 50 myself! :D
James Counye same, its practical for collage..