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- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes discuss the latest news in the NFL including Sean Payton’s “two middle fingers” response to Denver Broncos critics & Cincinnati Bengals QB Joe Burrow grabbling with football mortality after another injured plagued season.
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NOPE
Tough in that Division with TJ Watt, Myles Garrett and the Ravens defense.
@@krzykll8642 What?
😂😂 Ikr!?! @@nickbarcheck1019
@@krzykll8642how high are you
Yet Lamar has been hurt once. Burrow is just frail.
@@Mgranadosvlamar played 12 games in 2021 and 12 games in 2022. Good try, maybe next time research before you fanboy.
Andrew Luck retired because he wanted a better quality of life. Injuries took away his enjoyment of the game. I feel like Joe Burrow is in the beginning phases of that.
The game loses when these careers are cut short. Better equipment and rule changes seem to be the only answers.
@jonmartin88 Some guys are just injury prone... doesn't matter how many equipment upgrades or rules changes you make.
@@lakeozarkrei3767 Andrew Luck was injury prone and decided to retire because he wanted a better quality of life. The same thing could happen with Joe Burrow, which would be unfortunate.
@timdyer7696 Dunno if Luck was super injury prone vs the colts letting him get stuck behind a terrible online for years.
Bros in his 20's and probably wakes up sore everyday already.. I wouldn't doubt if the injuries during the season are ruining what he can do in his offseason, he can't even get a chance to relax
Completely agree with Nick. The Bengals are not handling Burrow well at all.
They've been trying hard to get him OL help the last few years. It's proven guys they brought in too long term starters on SB winners not just random draft picks but yeah it hasn't exactly solved the problem like they hoped. He's always had good weapons around him.
They have been trying at least.
What should they do cover him in bubble wrap?
Great kid and 2nd best in the league when healthy. I really hope he has a long career, the NFL need him (as long as he doesn't beat my team).
@@MarkWright4678 Josh Allen is way more talented than Burrow. So is Lamar.
Burrow's SB window is as open as his injuries will allow him. And considering how the Bengals are handling the situation, it isn't going to be long
He was hurt is college too.
Are you paying attention at all to the bengals this offseason, or just making comments without knowing the situation. Zac Taylor is holding him out of practices this offseason and he’s getting more rest days. Burrow himself is the one that was pushing himself over the limit. This isn’t a bengals organization issue
@@Mlist10nigga wen u put him behind 4 bottum 5-10 olines his first 4 years of his career that definitely is a organizational issue
Burrow is such a good QB and I hope the Bengals don't fail him. He doesn't deserve to end like Andrew Luck. Nobody does.
Bengals fan, certified Nick Wright hater, and i agree.
I actually like Nicks take here in that, you want the team and the player as well, to really look out for their health and availability. That Mahomes example makes sense.
I would say, the way Joe Burrow has played (and really low level o-lines to start his career) or has gotten qb hits. He plays a tough style in a tough division. Maybe less hits, maybe team protects player more in offense style, and in precautions. Those things go a long way in keeping a player on the field.
Sean Payton is probably the most overrated coach of all-time. He underperformed for most of the seasons in which he had one of the greatest QBs of all-time, and if not for a gutsy onside kick and Manning throwing a pick-six in; he may have never won the Super Bowl. To say he's a great coach is an insult to great coaches everywhere.
He IS a great coach. The saints won the division 7 times and went to the playoffs 9 times. Also, playing the "what if" game they should have gone to the SB in 2018 if not for that blatant missed PI call. 1 year in his Denver turn around and he massively improved Russ (stats wise) and increased their winning by three games. He's also helped get the best out of players' (Jameis, Teddy). Crazy to call him overrated.
Nick made a good point with how the Dolphins handled Tua vs what's happening with Burrow. It feels like the Bengals are just crossing their fingers and hoping they don't Luck this one up...
That just isn’t true. We’ve spent pretty much every offseason improving/trying to improve the offensive line
@@SargentS240 Sure, but he was hurt in camp, and they ended up having him play injured, and them he got hurt again. He should have spent a month or two on the bench to recover, and then come back for the 2nd hkaf of the season if he was up for it. Especially considering they have a solid backup.
But instead they tried to push him through it, and ended up in last place anyway.
Hopefully he is able to stay healthy. Hate to see injuries cut short a young, talented athlete's career.
I lowkey think its the bengals for not giving him the best offensive lines
What do you mean they have spent every year to upgrade his line
@@andregriffin1203tore his ACL with a horrible oline
@@andregriffin1203and its still been trash
Nah he just isn't that mobile in the pocket. There's no way every year they spend money & he's still getting sacked lol that's on Burrow atp@@realngga0
Why does nobody ever consider maybe Joe just isn’t that great at identifying pressures? Or that he’s just injury prone and no matter how good the line is your QB is gonna take hits.
Nick is TOTALLY RIGHT is hand injury began NOV 5th on a QB sneak against the bills... a QB sneak on 2nd and 1....NEVER should have called that STUPID PLAY
As much I hate saying but nick is right look at Tom whole career in patriots he always always had a good/great oline he might’ve not had the wr but he sure was protected at all cost
As much as I love jamar chase and I acknowledge he was a huge part of bringing them to a SB, they definitely should’ve drafted Sewell. We were saying it back at the draft. Now they have to pay two too tier receivers and won’t have money to get online play
Great show, thanks 😁
Bengals need to get a real Offensive Line ‼️
What happened to the ProBowl, SB Champion, $16M/year LT? 🤔
Im not saying he isn't injury prone, but keep in perspective that the first injury was not his fault he got his leg destroyed by a defender. And you can't count when he missed some time for appendicitis, thats not an injury.
Lamar got injured in the pocket two years in a row, Did they call him Injury Prone?
Its not about what "they" call him. Just look at whether or not the injuries were caused by something beyond the qbs control. Like burrows acl.
If he had more injuries like the calf, there'd be a lot more merit in calling him injury prone.
Freaky stuff like the ACL and wrist I don't think are indicative of being injury prone, and like you say sometimes people include the appendix which is absolutely ridiculous. 2021 he was sacked the most, 2022 he was sacked the 6th most, yet he didn't miss a snap due to injury in two deep playoffs runs. That's not something that someone that is injury prone can pull off. His two season ending injuries weren't anymore likely to happen on week 1 or week 15, so I don't think pointing out the number of missed games is a great argument.
Yep, completely agree. when you really break it down, he has had 2 injuries that are abnormal, or can even be considered towards calling him injury prone.
Nick literally said that. Y’all gotta watch before you comment.
His appendix wasn’t really an injury lol..
Yeah that’s something you can’t control at all, my mom had the same thing happen to her when she was sleeping!
I am a Broncos fan who wanted Russell Wilson gone. But I also saw that Sean Payton consciously sabotaged Wilson with certain playcalls. Coaches should be able to build on their players strenght, not force players into difficult styles.
No. Wrong. Wilson plays backyard fooball. There was 0 need tp adjust for an aging, bad qb. Russ didnt listen and couldnt run the offense. Sean cut the playbook in half to help him. Gave him a wristband. He didnt sabotage him
@@BossAJShahahaha. Payton won’t make the playoffs & Russ will win playoff games
Wilson is too expensive, that’s what comes down to it. Payton clearly thinks he can get similar QB play with someone much cheaper so he wanted Wilson gone.
@@Phat-rj3jo that argument doesn’t work. They couldn’t spend the money on any players anyway. This move was purely ego that’s it, and they waisted another pick doing it. Payton won’t ever make the playoffs again
Agree…the Broncos brought in a coach that Hated the star quarterback…..couldn’t they have picked someone who Wanted to work with Russell….?
Nick had a day today good job 👍🏾
Nick is right.. He shouldnt have even played in the beginning cuz they were losijg even with him cuz he was injured
Burrow just has that naturally sickly look of a Culkin brother.
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I had to look them up and I absolutely love and adore this🎉🎉🎉 comments
😂😂
wtf is Sean Payton’s legacy tho? Getting carried by Drew Brees and bounty gate???
Right
Great kid and 2nd best in the league when healthy. I really hope he has a long career, NFL fans need him (as long as he doesn't beat my team).
He's not that great bruh
If he keeps losing in Denver lol bro just got there 😂
lol right. he improves the previous season record and they talkin about him losing
Man went 8-9 in one year with the broncos and helped raised their offensive line 14 spots to 10 thin the league. Idk people kinda wanna hate on Payton for a weird reason and not look at the Collective picture
I can tell you this. Sean Payton has been coaching for a long time. He knows what he's looking at. If he was looking at the same 5.5 win team that everyone else is projecting the Broncos to be, his behavior at the podium would be just as boorish, if not more than last year. Instead, he's happy and joking. I'd like to think that that means he's looking at a team that he sees a lot more than 5.5 wins in.
It's baffling that no one brings up. Carson Palmer when talking about Joe burrows and his injury history in Cincinnati
Pretty sure kc ran the qb option play in the 2020 playoffs vs the browns where mahomes got choked out and was mistaken for a concussion. To nicks point though, they dont call those plays often and will probably never call a qb sneak again. I do think we'll see it but patrick will have to audible into it.
*choked out
@@jenniferaceste8823 there you go, idk how a c got added to that. I can assure you I am a good speller but i am impatient on a cellphone keyboard.
@@scottrowlandrowland1098
Something about AutoCorrect that does weird stuff like that sometimes. All good brother.
Crazy as heel that burrow is treated like this when Lamar Jackson has only finished two seasons as well and had a fraction of his success
Glass joe !!!!!!!
And to compare burrow to mahomes is Ludacris Speed.....mahomes missed two games in his 6 years uhhhh yea stop comparing burrow to ma'homeboy
He was injury prone at Ohio State.
Crazy we praised him for getting hit so much first two years
No excuses. Mahomes is on the verge of 3 peating. If he can survive this league, JB should be able to. I think he expects to get hurt. Therefore, he gets hurt.
Btw, Classic 1 Sir Nick
He also in same soundbite that he's built for it when it comes down to making a deep run
I brought up Burrows injuries like a week or so ago & was ridiculed for it lol
Sean Peyton should be playing golf somewhere with Bill Belicheck
Yea cause he only helped Denver beat KC and win the most games they have in the last 7 seasons.
Man the Chiefs have it great every year and especially this year. Chargers lost all their offensive weapons, the Broncos don’t have a QB and the Raiders are always a question mark. What a division🤦🏾
Burrow, Lawrence and Tua have all talked about life being more than just football, aren't obsessive competitive myopic intense types like the generation before... Andrew Luck was the forerunner of the coming trend....
Joe, is injury prone and missed a lot of his early football career, yet everybody tried to say Lamar Jackson was going to always be injury prone and always hurt. How wrong you all have been.
Nick is spot on with the Burrow take
Bengals acting like he isnt made of glass
He's fixing the QB situation...
Lamar has missed more games in last two years than Burrow. Burrow had 50 in a row before freak wrist injury. Has been unfortunate for sure.
They’ve missed the exact same number….9 each lol
@NewYorkRave
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Watch the video. JOEVERATED missed 13 games in 4 years.
he's missed his 2 seasons what are u talking about!!!!
I'm niners fan no dog in race but I've thought burrow was second best qb for long time but to talk about Lamar injuries as comparison is disingenuous if burrow played how Lamar plays he be broken forever by now, come on be real Lamar is going to miss games how much he runs around and refuses to slide.
Theres more to blame than the oline. Yea the oline hasn’t been top 10 for much of his career but 1’ Joe burrow holds on to the ball way too long at times & 2. They need to run the ball more.
Joe's known for the quickest processing in NFL. Lol
As a Chiefs fan, I think a healthy Burrow is Mahomes biggest threat. I think the Bengals front office isn’t great but is getting better. You gotta protect your franchise which is obviously Burrow. Continue drafting/trading for offensive linemen.
I feel like it’s watching Andrew Luck over again.
He hit his hand on Jadeveon clowney helmet in the midst of a throw the surgery wasn't because the "wrist injury" he supposedly had before
Joe Burrow needs to take two years off let the Bengals get to number one picks come back and win the Super Bowl
I aspire to be as bold as Rome O saying he’s gunna beat Pukas record as a 3rd option
He better have Stafford throwing him the ball lol
Joe Glass is nothing like Brady...not never in his wildest DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!
i would not blame Joe Burrow if he requests a trade and puts the bengals in a pickle if they don’t address the O-line. he is looking more and more like Andrew Luck’s career every season. Luck at one point was a top 3-5 QB in the NFL. but he would get hurt all the time
I was a fan of luck and I’m a huge fan of burrow. Gotta say, this is looking super familiar
Well the bengals let his entire lower body get shredded to pieces his rookie year. Maybe that’s having some impact on this calf injury he had last year.
If you toss the knee shred injury the 1st year on Burrow, then ya kinda have to toss the appendicitis. So then that leaves you with 2 wtf injuries that are legit durability/smart training question marks. Meaning..but for those injuries, "injury prone" should only just now be entering the convo, js.
Burrow is not the best QB …
Lamar has a higher winning percentage, better head to head wins , more Pro Bowls , More All Pro selections, and 2 MVPs ….
1 Super Bowl appearance and losing doesn’t trump all that much
And only 2 playoff wins against ryan tannahill and a rookie cj stroud and an over achieved texans team
Lamar vs. Burrow playoffs….
Lamar: 2-4 record with only 6 TD/6 INT, 1324 yards and 75 passer rating ( 2 game losing INTs including a pick 6 in close games that Ravens could have won)
Burrow: 5-2 record with 9 TD/ 4 INT, 1826 yards and 94 passer rating
Ravens have had FAR superior teams than the Bengals. Multiple Super Bowl rosters since 2018 but 0 appearances and only 1 afc champ appearance. Elite rosters. Harbaugh elite Top 3 Head Coach. Multiple #1 defenses. Best Front Office of this generation. Common denominator holding team back: Lamar.
Burrow was drafted by the worst team in the league that had the #1 pick and turned that sorry franchise around in only 2nd season with Super Bowl trip while playing behind the worst O-line in the league! A no name head coach and a top prospect ruble franchise. Burrow has exceeded expectations. Lamar has underachieved.
Burrow is better
Lamar doesn't have a Lamar hunt trophy 😂
@@slimvickins5059
Jalen Hurst went to a Super Bowl and lost too .., yet i never see anyone ranking him in the top 5
Bo Nix is 24. In what way is that too old to be a high draft pick? As far as Sean Payton - not thrilled with him so far.
No, nah, nope. The owner tried to get Joe to sit with the calf injury & Joe got furious.
It was Joe himself that wanted Chase. They should have drafted Sewell.
Peyton better hope Wilson doesn’t cook this year.
He won't 🤷🏾♂️
Sean Payton gonna light it up Nix.
Laughable. I can’t wait to see this circus. I’ll get to see it up close I live in Denver. 😂😂😂😂
he says this after reports of Zach Wilson lookin good in Minichamps 😂😂😂😂
I give props to Nick for this, he really played this great as Chiefs fan. Last year he trashed Wilson so hard, trying to make him as problem and not awful coaching stuff, which dumb owners and GM bought. And he was giving credit to Payton when it was obvious his coaching didn't change or do anything. And now he's is paving the way to unleash all wrath at Payton so he could be fired soon as possible leaving Broncos in mess for probably very long period (although they are already in mess for last 8 years, probably at least next 5 years), leaving his Chiefs very safe, since Raiders and Chargers are similar mess like Broncos. Well done Nick, well done 👏👏👏👏
I wouldn’t call the Chargers a mess.
Huh? They literally just traded 70% of their offense this off season and they're still in salary cap purgatory.
The Bengals also run an insane amount of empty sets where burrow is just left out to the wolves
I mean nobody that wants to win a Super Bowl wants just a serviceable quarterback🙄😂
What makes Sean Payton a “Great” head coach? Like what separates him from guys like Tomlin and McCarthy
Sean Payton having one good qb doesn't make him a qb fixer. He's a good offensive coach but nothing says he can develope a qb
Jameis Winston
Teddy Bridgewater
It’s broncos Steelers week two Wildes.
You’re welcome
Imagine Joe Burrow in Philadelphia
The legend of Sean Payton should be paying his players to injure other players. Should've been banned from the league for life.
Russ sucks, get over it
On the one hand, Nick said Russell was washed last year. And on the other, Wright said it has been a failure for Payton winning 8 games with the Broncos. Payton won 8 games with a washed QB, which was the most in 7 years, and was in playoff contention with 3 weeks left in the season. Given all of that, how is he a failure after 1 season? Make it make sense.
Keep cope alive! 😂
Montana is Joe Cool 😎 not burrow 😂😂😂
How come Mahomes was allowed to "play through" his ankle sprain though? Am I missing something?
Because it was the AFCCG and the super bowl.
@jonmcintyre And so they would've definitely lost without him and nobody would've cared if he wasn't playing, so it was to preserve the chiefs legacy and the league's monetary gain???
@@cameronbatterton5900 he played to give his team the best chance at winning a Superbowl; it's not a tin foil hat theory or any form of rocket science..
@hurricanestarang You misunderstand me. I'm not here wondering why Mahomes chose to play. There are injury protocols and medical teams that step in and determine whether a player is safe to play or not and I think it's pretty obvious that, at least to Some extent, they looked the other way
Is nick hiding in shame today for his insane celtics mavs pick? Come with that same energy now, buddy.
The chiefs have run options with Mahomes in games. That's just not true
I swear if Nick has jinxed Patrick Mahonmes by saying hes not injury prone😅
M-A-H-O-M-E-S
Burrow has missed more games in 4 years than Tua, maybe by 1 game but you don't want to be in that conversation.
Did Nick just infer that most NFL players retire below the age of 24…? What does that mean? 7:48
Isnt the avg NFL career like 4--5ish years?
Bengals need to draft OL
are we comparing russel with peyton now???
Ok nick you’re wrong, there has been qb designed runs for mahomes, plenty of them, just not a QB sneak
And for some mysterious reason he's the highest paid quarterback, but they don't want to pay Dak Prescott, his money
It wasn’t until Mahomes came into the league that Nick Wrong became smug and a football guru
If Russell Wilson has a good year and Sean Payton has a bad year, the result will be simple. Pittsburgh will have undermined not only their disvision rivals with their great deal, but also they will have destroyed a competitive coach. The real pressure is in Denver. Russell can have a poor year, and no one will be surprised. It will be huge if he is successful. Denver is expected to be better, because their annoited coach whisperer has come in to turn the toxic Denver environment around. I know where my betting money is going.
--- so ...not Joe Cool ??? Lotta hype
AFC north is going to flip this year on everyone’s expectations. Bengals will come last and the Steelers will finish top you heard it here first
😂😂😂 Steelers fan much
😂😂😂😂
Not the Steelers. The Ravens
@@stephjl401 Colts actually
This sounds like some cowboys fan stuff 😅😂 Russell Wilson and Justin Fields aren't very likely to take you far.
Why exactly does Burrow get 2nd best QB credit? Take a look at his numbers, even taking out last year, Josh Allen has always been better than him.
Since no one is going to say it, I’ll say it for you. When y’all talk about Russell Wilson and everything that he’s been through under Sean Payton, with the disrespect of Sean Payton. You do know that the Denver Broncos could have made the playoffs last year right but being that Sean Payton wanted to control the narrative. He sat Russell Wilson for two games because he couldn’t sell that to the organization if they would have made the playoffs and he definitely couldn’t sell that to the organization if they would have made the playoff and won a playoff game that Russell Wilson was washed up so to control the narrative he sat him for two games. But the Bible says you reap what you sow so now that Russell Wilson is in Pittsburgh. Sean Peyton is banking on them not making the playoffs and please don’t let them go to the Super Bowl because now you have to explain to the organization why they ate $36 million dollars and this player is playing at a high level. Now let’s see how this plays out.
How did Payton have a great career in New Orleans? Bounty gate was disgusting... he's a terrible human being and shouldn't even be allowed in the NFL
I think calling Joe injury prone is a stretch
He's constantly injured.
@@nickbarcheck1019lol Lamar played 12 games in 2021, 12 games in 2022, 16 games last year, 16 games first year, and 15 games his second and 3rd
Joe has played 16 games in 2021 and 2022
10 games in 2020 and 2023
Either Lamar and Joe are both injure prone or neither is
@@GKA11111 Lamar is absolutely injury prone. But he's more talented than Burrow imo.
What has Peyton done without Drew Breeze? He was , failed cowboys assistant and coordinator.. That's it. That's the list.. 😂 why b is he held is such high regard? He failed everywhere offensively until drew brees.. And guess what, he's falling now.. Look it up.. He's a failure atv every level besides Brees
This injury prone thing is just not cutting the grass for me.
I mean he was injured in college and half his time in the league if not that what is it
Good thing they play on turf 🤭
He needs to get with Tom Brady and learn to stay healthy
Burrow is another Andrew Luck. He's going to take his $250m and walk. He knows deep down he can't beat Mahomes and he can't stay healthy. He'll be out of football in 3 years.
Can’t beat Mahomes? Lol 😂
Burrow is like Stockton and that with the man Patrick Mahomes on the field burrow will never win a Super Bowl
Is Lamar injury prone? he missed as many games than Burrow past 4 seasons.
They called him that before though … the when he missed that time
Show the mf clips!
But they DID get an indoor practice facility.
Mahomes isn’t an iron man like farve and manning? Huh?? Manning an iron man? Maybe the 🐐 but manning??
Eli manning started every game in his career except one
Burrow is nothing special. I don’t get it.