Honda will price this at a premium and people will buy.... If I had the money I'd buy Skoda Rapid Rider.. And customise it a Lil... Verna too with DSG box and turbo petrol is superbly loaded when compared to City which to my eyes is only a styling exercise, given all that I heard you saying.
Had lots of respect for sirish but this one felt completely biased. He feels the age old vento is value for money when the top end turbo torque converter costs 16L on road while the Verna costs 16L as well with the same turbo engine but a DCT and has more equipment such as push button start stop, keyless entry, sunroof, ventilated seats, wireless charging pad, full digital speedometer, all disc brakes and the list goes on and on. I would pay 2 lakhs more than the vento for these features and the state of art DCT gearbox. Yes I’m an enthusiast and I should agree that the vento drives better and has the better engine but not at this cost where it’s super pricey and I get a 10 year old model from a manufacturer like VW? I can understand sirish was rallying polo so he has a soft corner for VW cars but not at the cost of being biased to a car like Honda city. Yes it may have body roll more compared to vento but Honda atleast want to give india a brand new global model and if you are fine with VW giving the same old car for 10 years then you should be fine with Honda city ew engine which you referred to as the *same* engine with a DOHC block. It’s much more fun than a turbo engine and the car is much bigger and has lots of features and as much as I love to drive, I would want a car which is also updated and Honda has given the new city so many good things which you can’t talk about but you talk about it not being great because of not getting wider tyres and having body roll and an NA engine? Atleast Honda took the efforts of bringing a brand new car unlike the brand VW for which you’re biased. Anyways I will agree that it drives better but please don’t call it value for money or don’t just talk good about vento and talk bad about city by being biased. Be fair to a car that has the best NA 1.5L engine in India.
Even 10 year old VW is better. Other brands need to work on driving feel. They know that indians don't care for that, so they give ton of features. VW will not change its focus and launch cars that are not driver oriented. Years don't matter. Still EP3 Civic type R of 2002 is amazing to drive. Age does not matter if other platforms and chassis are still rubbish. It is super easy to change exterior looks and call it a new model without working on the chassis. Honda puts huge efforts into the Civic and Accord since it sells so much. But City is a car for developing markets with lower sales figures(Accord sells 30k units PER MONTH). So there isn't much change for those who look at platform changes.
Balram Okay I agree with the fact that Vento drives better but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are better cars. They still get only 2 & 4 airbags at 2020 and don’t tell me they have build quality because they secured only a 4 star NCAP while city has secured a 5 star ASEAN NCAP. So let me shoot a question. If VW really wants to give India proper cars and not change its focus then why not give us diese engines now? Why not give us the amazing dual clutch and change it to a torque converter? They are just giving us one engine option and that’s a shame when other brands give so many. Yes you may be right that changing the design and using the same platform is still not brand new but atleast other brands take the efforts to do that atleast while VW and Skoda sell us the car rolling out of the same platform for a price equivalent to the newer models of brands. They are looting money from us which is why the sales are so low. You talk about octavia, kodiaq, Passat and Il say yes they are committed to that segment and give us all new MQB platform with amazing engines and chasis but the lower end they just loot us and there are no two ways about it.
Agreed. my dad's taking delivery of city next week. VW fans never think about after sales and reliability. VW and Skoda can never match the reliability of a Honda in any given segment.
Initially I hated the looks of the 5th gen city as I was addicted to the 4th gen. But accidentally I watched this review from evo India and I started admiring it. Once again I am forced to mention that this is the only automotive channel that can turn your dislikes to likes.... None reviews like this channel... So much energy and precision. Watching your videos is akin to feeling the cars in person. So much of emotional attachment from an enthusiastic perspective... Downloaded this one too to watch it again and again even while offline.... Lots of love, respect and support to thus channel... May you hit a million subscribers ASAP as you are worth it.... #LOVECARSLIVECARS
Hi Sirish, have some feedback on your review: You missed taking about the Boot space, dint even open. Missed talking about things like 3 point seat belt for middle passenger, hand/elbow rest front and rear, glove box, door pads, alloy design etc. You also need to talk a little more about it's design since it's an all new car. Generally ur reviews will be more skewed towards driving, engine etc since u r basically a racer, but it's better to have balance by including about all above points of an all new car which will it an holistic and detailed review. Thanks.
What you need is available with channels like Autoportal and Ashish Masih Cars... This channel focuses on performance and driving dynamics which true enthusiasts love.... But your feedback was honestly valuable.... Take and drive safe.... 😊
In the 18-20 lakhs segment, in order to beat SUVs, City needs 1. Ventilated seats 2. Panoramic sunroof 3. Audio system with subwoofer. Honda cannot afford to charge a premium with skipping features in India any more. Look at Creta/Seltos. They have all these. And if city can add a sliding driver arm rest too to above list, the City will become a perfect package against these SUVs.
The AC is powerful enough so that you don't need ventilated seats. Indian climate is tropic and you don't need a panoramic sunroof as you aren't even going to drive with your windows down then how about sunroof, panaromic ones are way overrated. I test drove it. You aren't gonna shift gears given the tall ratio you are going to drive it in 3rd for most part in city traffic. Only thing it actually misses is an adjustable lumbar support.
If you look enthusiasm on driving, i prefer the tsi version of rapid or vento..Looks dated in design..but come to driving pleasure and morever the amount you are paying for the vehicle, rapid is quite value for money..
@@sirishch thanks for ths like SIRISH SIR have been following you from overdrive channel from my school days😍😍😍😍 you comparison video of suv comparison in snow with dsouza sir👍👍 was ma fav
Sirish Chandran I don’t know. It falls in a no man’s land now. If I want more driver involvement I would go with a rapid tsi. If I want more back seat comfort I would go with the new Creta. Better underthigh support and a reclinable backrest, with a good ride and more equipment. It is no longer a no-brainer as in 2011-12.
Looks good... But that's it if I have to go by your words.. I don't understand why Honda won't use wider tyres.. Their cars always come across as under tyred. But since it is a City, it'll sell, doesn't matter what price.. That's how Indian car market is..
@@swamiboo9375 Why did Innova sell even when they priced the car at 30 lakhs ? Why are these cars resale value high ? Auto channels should also tell us about after sales services, maintenance for long run and reliability ? Do enthus need reliable cars ? Why would they hate Toyotas ?! they hate hondas for the same reason and its the same reason I mentioned above which car channels dont talk about is why normal common people buy a car. They cant worry about cars all the time, buy and have low service cost, low maintenance and sell at good price, that is Indian mindset, save money and enjoy. I dont have issues with such thoughts since cars arent cheap in India like in the western nations, every rupee is hard earned money, people dont want to spend more, so reliable and low maintenance cars sell out the most.
Confused between the city and a mid sized SUV like the Seltos, primary use will be for my parents...is the ingress, egress uncomfortable in the City? What's your suggestion EvoIndia?
yes the sound is audible in ivtec when I had driven the car I asked sales executive that engine is making noise he said that you must be accelarating hard. Verna and ciaz have more silent engines
Which used car should i buy? PLS HELP ANYONE?? 1-Tata Tiago Petrol 2019 feb 8000km run xm varient at rs 3.40 lakh 2-Ford Aspire Diesel 2017 may 28000 km run titanium varient at rs 3.60 lakh 3-Renault kwid 2017 jan 14000km run rxl at rs 2.40 lakh ALL ARE IN GOOD CONDITION WHICH ONE IS GOOD DEAL??????pls rply
Honda City a good car but not ny cup of tea..front chrome grill doesn't fit my taste.. however an RS city should be considered for india..may be a city based hatchback..IS honda considering it for INDIA?..BUT ivtec kicked in yo😁
Seriously... I am disappointed. It looks like a oldies car from inside. And Honda in all its logic decided India is not fit for a turbo petrol. I tell you what it feels like City is trying to be a replacement for Ciaz. Stupids at Hyundai should be caned for not improving the space in Verna. I think they are going through a brain drain
Instead of buying this outdated sedans people will opt for SUV's which falls under same price bracket Instead gng Base n mid variants of honda city /verna they can go for higher specs of Venue/ Ecosport or kia sonet (gng to launch in August ) Which will be under 10-14lac onroad Higher spec variants of city will be around 15lac-16lac in dis price kia seltos/Creta will be a great choice
@@sirishch Honda need not launch the rs and it wont. Atleast since the stiffer 4th gen is sold along with 5th honda can give it a 205 section , make it lower to groud and give it a black treatment. Which will leave the 5th generation take care of the buyers looking for comfort and 4th gen tk take care of drivers. I also feel 4th gen has the sportier cabin. 5th gen has the sportier profile toooo. Upsizing the tyres has realy made my car sporty and sharp better than its rivals. What do you think?
@@skiran69 Embarrass... Lol... Couldn't get a turbo... Build quality is fading with each iteration... The prior gen is already touching 18 lac wait for this one and that too for a NA engine.... Seriously. Honda promotes itself as a premium brand and yet apart from providing just rear space is lacking in creature comfort. The equipment offered is also not top notch quality. City is getting saved because morons at Hyundai won't work on rear bench space. Once they do that then Vtec will certainly kick itself into oblivion. By the way I am not a fan of Hyundai
Hate that chrome in the front. Honda still thinks it's name is enough and they are free to charge whatever premium they wish on their products for the Indian market. The Indian customer at the price lines expected for this car in this segment has moved on to CSUV/SUV in a big way. Wonder where this will fit in.
Most hyped car in C segment. Not at all value for money- Missing ventillated seats, puny 185 section tyres, noisy diesel, lack of diesel auto box. Sorry Honda you are in the same path as Nokia with this kind of products & mediocre dealership experience.
Do you think the Honda City has what it takes to remain the segment leader? We would love to know what you think!
Definitely. More space, comfortable, great cabin.... it has all the ingredients
It will sell well , but it’s a boring car .. it’s lost it’s heart ...
I think, touch display is tilted towards the passenger is because it should not disturb the driver view at night.
Please try and review Nissan Kicks 1.3 Turbo and if you can come up with more news on Renault Duster 1.3 Turbo.
Honda will price this at a premium and people will buy.... If I had the money I'd buy Skoda Rapid Rider.. And customise it a Lil...
Verna too with DSG box and turbo petrol is superbly loaded when compared to City which to my eyes is only a styling exercise, given all that I heard you saying.
Had lots of respect for sirish but this one felt completely biased. He feels the age old vento is value for money when the top end turbo torque converter costs 16L on road while the Verna costs 16L as well with the same turbo engine but a DCT and has more equipment such as push button start stop, keyless entry, sunroof, ventilated seats, wireless charging pad, full digital speedometer, all disc brakes and the list goes on and on. I would pay 2 lakhs more than the vento for these features and the state of art DCT gearbox. Yes I’m an enthusiast and I should agree that the vento drives better and has the better engine but not at this cost where it’s super pricey and I get a 10 year old model from a manufacturer like VW? I can understand sirish was rallying polo so he has a soft corner for VW cars but not at the cost of being biased to a car like Honda city. Yes it may have body roll more compared to vento but Honda atleast want to give india a brand new global model and if you are fine with VW giving the same old car for 10 years then you should be fine with Honda city ew engine which you referred to as the *same* engine with a DOHC block. It’s much more fun than a turbo engine and the car is much bigger and has lots of features and as much as I love to drive, I would want a car which is also updated and Honda has given the new city so many good things which you can’t talk about but you talk about it not being great because of not getting wider tyres and having body roll and an NA engine? Atleast Honda took the efforts of bringing a brand new car unlike the brand VW for which you’re biased. Anyways I will agree that it drives better but please don’t call it value for money or don’t just talk good about vento and talk bad about city by being biased. Be fair to a car that has the best NA 1.5L engine in India.
Even 10 year old VW is better. Other brands need to work on driving feel. They know that indians don't care for that, so they give ton of features. VW will not change its focus and launch cars that are not driver oriented. Years don't matter. Still EP3 Civic type R of 2002 is amazing to drive. Age does not matter if other platforms and chassis are still rubbish.
It is super easy to change exterior looks and call it a new model without working on the chassis. Honda puts huge efforts into the Civic and Accord since it sells so much. But City is a car for developing markets with lower sales figures(Accord sells 30k units PER MONTH). So there isn't much change for those who look at platform changes.
Balram Okay I agree with the fact that Vento drives better but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are better cars. They still get only 2 & 4 airbags at 2020 and don’t tell me they have build quality because they secured only a 4 star NCAP while city has secured a 5 star ASEAN NCAP. So let me shoot a question. If VW really wants to give India proper cars and not change its focus then why not give us diese engines now? Why not give us the amazing dual clutch and change it to a torque converter? They are just giving us one engine option and that’s a shame when other brands give so many. Yes you may be right that changing the design and using the same platform is still not brand new but atleast other brands take the efforts to do that atleast while VW and Skoda sell us the car rolling out of the same platform for a price equivalent to the newer models of brands. They are looting money from us which is why the sales are so low. You talk about octavia, kodiaq, Passat and Il say yes they are committed to that segment and give us all new MQB platform with amazing engines and chasis but the lower end they just loot us and there are no two ways about it.
Agreed. my dad's taking delivery of city next week. VW fans never think about after sales and reliability. VW and Skoda can never match the reliability of a Honda in any given segment.
Loved that you talked more about the engine characteristics, most receivers don't give enough attention to it
Really!!!! You guys are gonna be the first !!!! Great
Enjoy the video!
Initially I hated the looks of the 5th gen city as I was addicted to the 4th gen. But accidentally I watched this review from evo India and I started admiring it. Once again I am forced to mention that this is the only automotive channel that can turn your dislikes to likes.... None reviews like this channel... So much energy and precision. Watching your videos is akin to feeling the cars in person. So much of emotional attachment from an enthusiastic perspective... Downloaded this one too to watch it again and again even while offline.... Lots of love, respect and support to thus channel... May you hit a million subscribers ASAP as you are worth it.... #LOVECARSLIVECARS
Hi Sirish, have some feedback on your review:
You missed taking about the Boot space, dint even open. Missed talking about things like 3 point seat belt for middle passenger, hand/elbow rest front and rear, glove box, door pads, alloy design etc. You also need to talk a little more about it's design since it's an all new car.
Generally ur reviews will be more skewed towards driving, engine etc since u r basically a racer, but it's better to have balance by including about all above points of an all new car which will it an holistic and detailed review.
Thanks.
What you need is available with channels like Autoportal and Ashish Masih Cars... This channel focuses on performance and driving dynamics which true enthusiasts love.... But your feedback was honestly valuable.... Take and drive safe.... 😊
No way .....hope it's not a prank guys w8 for long time now for this !!!
no prank! watch the video
Why would we want to prank you? 🤔
In the 18-20 lakhs segment, in order to beat SUVs, City needs 1. Ventilated seats 2. Panoramic sunroof 3. Audio system with subwoofer. Honda cannot afford to charge a premium with skipping features in India any more. Look at Creta/Seltos. They have all these. And if city can add a sliding driver arm rest too to above list, the City will become a perfect package against these SUVs.
and electric seat adjustment too,given the high price tag !
The AC is powerful enough so that you don't need ventilated seats. Indian climate is tropic and you don't need a panoramic sunroof as you aren't even going to drive with your windows down then how about sunroof, panaromic ones are way overrated. I test drove it. You aren't gonna shift gears given the tall ratio you are going to drive it in 3rd for most part in city traffic. Only thing it actually misses is an adjustable lumbar support.
Hope it's Sirish Chandran behind the wheels
Yup it's I
No nonsense car ..... best option for families and show for driven buyers 👌
In no relation with this but who all spotted the Volkswagen tiguan at 0:41? Great review guys.
our tracking car 😂
If you look enthusiasm on driving, i prefer the tsi version of rapid or vento..Looks dated in design..but come to driving pleasure and morever the amount you are paying for the vehicle, rapid is quite value for money..
Really appreciate the way to make the review....keep going.....u people gonna top the list of automobile reviewers soon
Hearing from sirish and looking his joy during drive is love to watch 👌😊👌
Finally someone used the sentence at the right time and in the right way 😂
King of sedans 👑👑👑
Timestamps it's a good feature some people will like only engine specs rather than those gizmos
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Thanks, we'll incorporate them in our videos going ahead too.
@@sirishch thanks for ths like SIRISH SIR have been following you from overdrive channel from my school days😍😍😍😍 you comparison video of suv comparison in snow with dsouza sir👍👍 was ma fav
Honda city is the best sedan 👍🏻
Do a drag race with 1.0 tsi Rapid turbo vs City Vs Verna GDI turbo.. waiting
Which engine is it using actually?
Is it still R series iVTEC?
Is it a all new platform?
Pretty sure all Honda Citys have been using the L series for the past few years.
It's finally here, the new Honda City. Has the wait been worth it?
Sirish Chandran I don’t know. It falls in a no man’s land now. If I want more driver involvement I would go with a rapid tsi. If I want more back seat comfort I would go with the new Creta. Better underthigh support and a reclinable backrest, with a good ride and more equipment.
It is no longer a no-brainer as in 2011-12.
Loved the speedmaster moonwatch 😎
Looks good... But that's it if I have to go by your words.. I don't understand why Honda won't use wider tyres.. Their cars always come across as under tyred. But since it is a City, it'll sell, doesn't matter what price.. That's how Indian car market is..
@@swamiboo9375 Why did Innova sell even when they priced the car at 30 lakhs ? Why are these cars resale value high ? Auto channels should also tell us about after sales services, maintenance for long run and reliability ? Do enthus need reliable cars ? Why would they hate Toyotas ?! they hate hondas for the same reason and its the same reason I mentioned above which car channels dont talk about is why normal common people buy a car. They cant worry about cars all the time, buy and have low service cost, low maintenance and sell at good price, that is Indian mindset, save money and enjoy. I dont have issues with such thoughts since cars arent cheap in India like in the western nations, every rupee is hard earned money, people dont want to spend more, so reliable and low maintenance cars sell out the most.
A DOHC?? Hell yeah!! Sounds really good too.
it does!
The car do a 0-100 faster than the vento tsi.
Nice Omega Speedmaster Sirish!
😁👍
Is Ground clearance sufficient enough for Indian road
Always look forward to your reviews
So what is ur take as best drivers’ car with a balance on features - City MT or Vento or Rapid ....... eager to know
Vento
Good review brother. My best wishes
I love Hondas.. May .. I have a one!!
If you are to choose a car between 2020 models of Verna, city and Creta based on interior passenger comfort what would you choose???
@evo India Sirish couldn't help but notice your Omega Speedmaster. Great watch ;)
I’m confused about which one I should opt between verna and City or should I continue with my Honda Grazia.😹
Confused between the city and a mid sized SUV like the Seltos, primary use will be for my parents...is the ingress, egress uncomfortable in the City? What's your suggestion EvoIndia?
City isn't all that low. Manageable. The Civic(RIP) was very low.
8:22 Maybe talking about kids (Faisal Khan) 😂
Is it just me or did the ivtec sound more audible than idtec?
yes the sound is audible in ivtec when I had driven the car I asked sales executive that engine is making noise he said that you must be accelarating hard. Verna and ciaz have more silent engines
Can someone explain how's it better then TURBO petrol engines...
What's the point in just rev rev rev
I like to drive around 2200 rpm so should i opt for manual or cvt petrol :?
Seems like you bought it.hows the ownership experience and high-speed stability??
Which used car should i buy?
PLS HELP ANYONE??
1-Tata Tiago Petrol 2019 feb 8000km run xm varient at rs 3.40 lakh
2-Ford Aspire Diesel 2017 may 28000 km run titanium varient at rs 3.60 lakh
3-Renault kwid 2017 jan 14000km run rxl at rs 2.40 lakh
ALL ARE IN GOOD CONDITION
WHICH ONE IS GOOD DEAL??????pls rply
Ford Aspire Diesel
I have already answered you on another channel. Saying it again go for Ford.
No second thought go for Ford Aspire 👌😍
Sirish spoke, spoke, spoke, and spoke a little more and did not inform the capacity of the trunk, something that is essential in a sedan.
at what revs does the limiter kick in? for the petrol.
7200
kya ab city, in sagement, mein sabse good looking/luxury/premium ho gayi hai ..................................?
That’s all the review anyone needs. Brilliant.
thanks!
The Tyre sizes ,dimensions are larger than before
Honda City a good car but not ny cup of tea..front chrome grill doesn't fit my taste.. however an RS city should be considered for india..may be a city based hatchback..IS honda considering it for INDIA?..BUT ivtec kicked in yo😁
Is there going to be black interior?
It’s time for Rapid TSI vs Honda city VTEC vs Verna 1.0 Turbo?!! Tricky one!!!
Stay tuned!
Rapid doesn't have automatic yet.. so comparison between rapid vs verna turbo won't be apples to apples.
evo India Popcorn’s ready!!
What's that black dot in the rear seat behind the driver seat? It's there in all 3 cars reviewed.🧐
Anumod I S isofix child mounts. Very important for child safety and also getting 5 star ratings. Without it no car can get 5 stars in safety.
How tall is Sirish, when he says he's adjusted the seat to his driving position...? I'd like a better idea of space.
5'9"
8 Ads in a 14 min video, seriously?
sad still no turbo petrol or diesel automatic
yup, no turbo ☹️
Could have kept turbo petrol...I think they didn’t introduce diese automatic since idtec engine is not as refined and Ivtec
It's 121bhp engine right?
121PS not bhp
Only advantage of honda is their new 10 year warranty policy
How is performance as compared to skoda rapid petrol 1.0 TSI
Rapid TSI is quicker
It revs out better, but doesn't accelerate as quickly as the TSI engine
Which means rapid would be more convenient to drive in city limit on lower rpm than city
Has Honda deleted Auto Rain sensing wipers in new city???
I don’t think so not sure
Ahah, the coffin shaped AC vents!!
Honda city 2020 thailand india
👍🏻
ok
Seriously... I am disappointed. It looks like a oldies car from inside. And Honda in all its logic decided India is not fit for a turbo petrol. I tell you what it feels like City is trying to be a replacement for Ciaz. Stupids at Hyundai should be caned for not improving the space in Verna. I think they are going through a brain drain
Couldn't agree more
Instead of buying this outdated sedans people will opt for SUV's which falls under same price bracket
Instead gng Base n mid variants of honda city /verna they can go for higher specs of Venue/ Ecosport or kia sonet (gng to launch in August )
Which will be under 10-14lac onroad
Higher spec variants of city will be around 15lac-16lac in dis price
kia seltos/Creta will be a great choice
Thailand honda city turbo
yeah 😭
@@sirishch Honda need not launch the rs and it wont. Atleast since the stiffer 4th gen is sold
along with 5th honda can give it a 205 section , make it lower to groud and give it a black treatment. Which will leave the 5th generation take care of the buyers looking for comfort and 4th gen tk take care of drivers. I also feel 4th gen has the sportier cabin. 5th gen has the sportier profile toooo. Upsizing the tyres has realy made my car sporty and sharp better than its rivals. What do you think?
121 ps and not 119!
And..... It seems Honda begged to Sirish to not name the competitors and draw comparisons because this model is just a lemon.
Nope. Honda didn't want to embarrass it's competitors.
@@skiran69 Embarrass... Lol... Couldn't get a turbo... Build quality is fading with each iteration... The prior gen is already touching 18 lac wait for this one and that too for a NA engine.... Seriously. Honda promotes itself as a premium brand and yet apart from providing just rear space is lacking in creature comfort. The equipment offered is also not top notch quality. City is getting saved because morons at Hyundai won't work on rear bench space. Once they do that then Vtec will certainly kick itself into oblivion. By the way I am not a fan of Hyundai
I Love Diesel
I Love Petrol
I Love Manual
I Love Automatic
I Love SUV
I Love Sedan
Overall great car interior not so great
It's actually a rather well put together, functional interior!
@@evoIndia hmmm but the rear view camera looks pixelated and the Verna it's competition gets ventilated seats and air purifier
City has the most spacious interior in the class, that counts for a lot!
If we observe while he is talking and car is shaking
That's the Go Pro shaking....
Is the manual City 1.5 L petrol engine gear and clutch as smooth as the Hyundai Verna ?
You should have got in diff colors :)
Hate that chrome in the front.
Honda still thinks it's name is enough and they are free to charge whatever premium they wish on their products for the Indian market.
The Indian customer at the price lines expected for this car in this segment has moved on to CSUV/SUV in a big way.
Wonder where this will fit in.
Fake sound
Most hyped car in C segment. Not at all value for money- Missing ventillated seats, puny 185 section tyres, noisy diesel, lack of diesel auto box. Sorry Honda you are in the same path as Nokia with this kind of products & mediocre dealership experience.
Run of the mill ,, lost its character ... boring interiors specially ..