Please keep in mind everything smaller than a half block like poles, plates, wedgetips etc. got massive reduced hitpoints. Poles for example have only 25% of a full or half block.
Man don't worry about explaining it for the new subs the old subs know you enough, I only have this game for ps4 and I have watched your videos for a while now lol wouldn't mind a muppet special, just a compilation of the muppet moments over the years.
Its not so good it works, it removes the fun to see if you can survive horde night and kind of removes immersion and apprehension too. Might as well turn horde night off if you build this base. I would hope that the devs could find a way to make 50 percent of horde night zombies stupid zombies that just break any blocks on the way to the player. That would make horde night unpredictable and more intense.
@@casapa9202 "I don't like it when people play the game in a way I don't agree with, everyone should have to play it the way I want to" -that's what you sound like
@@casapa9202 Cops kinda do that. Their vomit can damage blocks. Imagine a couple cops not even trying to path to you, just standing and spitting at your position.
Something to consider for this base. There is a block a lot of people are using to make floating bases. Even though it's very tiny, it has full HP, so a tiny bit of a block can have 5000 or 10k HP, yet be nearly impossible for zombies to lock on to to hit. You could use that for the pillars on the side of the corridor you're standing on, so the zombies literally have nothing to hit to cause a collapse. Combined with the endless cycle of them wanting to run the corridor, you'd be completely safe there.
Yes! A JaWoodle Park episode. JaWoodle Park is what got me started watching this channel years ago. The number of blocks that we have to work with now is crazy. I'm loving it. Good job Josh.
You could also make your platform pillar wider and have a trapdoor and ladder to enter the hollow middle to repair it. Also, covering it for the damn birds, though I think you mentioned that one
Awesome! A most effective unpowered base, as long as you have sufficient ranged weaponry. If you are really short on materials you can shorten the length of the corridor a bit, but as Josh noted, since they don't attack the structure much you could use wood for much of it. You could add electric posts in the corridor to make it a head shot shooting gallery later. A TFP counter to this would be to make bunker buster zeds that attack your horizontal position and ignore your vertical position. Imagine having to counter waves of busters going for your foundation during the horde. I do wish there was an iron material though before steel (frame, wood, cobble, cement, *iron*, steel). The lack of an iron block before steel irks me a bit since you can forge iron long before steel.
I've said for a long time that I think the best version of zombie AI would have a mix of dumb/smart. Make regular zombies have dumb AI, but then specialist zombies (like construction worker/wights/etc) have smart AI. No cheese can perfectly/easily handle both, but it would make early game more intense
I made the a19 killing corridor in a20 and in horde day 35 they tunneled under the platform and collapsed the whole build. Whole base was concrete and there was some steel in hot areas. It was nuts so we desperately need this for our multiplayer server. Maybe a future multiplayer horde base that can accommodate everyone
haha he doesn't even have to gloat, just a fact now that they haven't had an answer to the mad scientist genius that JW packin... honestly they should have hired him on well before now to do exactly what he does on the reg!
Thanks for the base building ideas. I know that a patch came out where they nerfed many blocks, so you just have to keep that in mind when building your base. Can't wait to see your future builds.
Great build for newbies and veterans alike! Easily built out of wood for the first horde and then just upgrade. Start with the critical parts like the stairs, pillars and the *tip* (giggity). Melee horde base next?
Not sure what he did, but this video is extremely misleading. Zombies are now coded to go after support pillars and walls before they come after you. So they would just break down the bottom part and everything crumbles.
I put some hay under where they drop and it seems to remove the rage from when they get hurt. Also they have reduced the strength of the pillars by 75% and I think the plates by 50% or they maybe the same as the pillars. Have a good one.
@@CapObv yeah I just watched a video and they went through and gave the figures from the developers. Just wanted to warn Jawoodle as he is relying on the poles to be safe. If he doesn't know about the changes it will be a bit of a surprise. The changes do not bother me either as I use blocks which are stronger.
The drop isn't hurting them...it's the other zombies smacking them that sets off the rage....zombies don't seem to take fall damage until around 30 blocks.
I like how two zombies at the end just decide to go running off into the desert for a minute, before realising that there's still a horde going on and they've got a job to do.
Great video You can also make the zombies fall down by themselves by making a pole or pillar bridge and, at the end, use a wedge tip 1 block high and 1 block to either right or left of pillar bridge You see, they see those wedges as a viable crawling option (instead of a normal path) and they forget their floor when they crawl
One of the first things I did when I had the mats was build a killing corridor. I'm finding some zombies get absolutely fixated with one particular block just before the drop into the pit of doom. Apart from that it works like a dream. Cheers Josh.
Nice work! I used something like this but mine was more compact and took damage from jumping/falling zombies. I just need to extend it out I think. A pit works really well with the new bevel cube block at your feet to toss pipe bombs thru and stand on. No more flipping hatches open and closed! Love the new blocks so much!
I was thinking about this, theres actually a block that is mostly solid but has a cylindrical cutout, like a straw, going through it. I believe the hit box allows you to shoot thru or toss bombs thru the cutout, but not let your body fit thru
my day 7 was something like this, with centered poles instead of wedges, so i still had a bit of challenge. they came up to my hatches like woodles fists only corridor, but a whack from a bat knocks them off :D or knocks their head off
For a bit of fun, make this base tall (16 blocks or more), and force the zombies to fall into a chute, which is lined with blade traps. I call it the zombie grinder base - zombies come in, and minced zombies come out. The only problem is powering all the blade traps. Multiple generators are usually necessary.
The Spider jumped 3 times in your face! And one made it to the platform. That jump looked really cool :D Good spidy boy, have a bonk. :D And the new hodded guy just left your party at 23:12 xD You can see him running against the cactus at 23:49. He's just done with the world. Man that's hilarious as always. Would love to see some cops and the new tumor-thingy zombie. The cops do explode, right? (I could be wrong, but every cop I came across in the Wasteland exploded on the street and I never saw a mine directly placed on the streets there so I'm not sure.) Nice video mate! :)
Great to see you testing again! Hope to see you revisit the melee base from Extinction, been having issues with the Zs beating the base instead of pathing up the steps.
Today is the morning of my wedding, but I've got to get my Jawoodle fix for today. I'd have to call the wedding off if I couldn't watch you while having my morning coffee.
Hurray JaWoodle park is back! Also questing never felt so rewarding. I highly recommend to go towards daring adventurer 4. On day 46, after doing a shitload of T4 quests Jenny girl gave me a legendary shotgun bundle, containing a lvl 6 autoshotty and some ammo. As 2nd reward 500, yes bloody 500 steel blocks! Didn't touch any of the T5 quests so far but i will after day 50.
@@JaWoodle done my first T5 factory today, was a blast and got me almost killed. I might take the drone with me again, found the heal mod. No spoilers, but the loot was damn good, quest was in the wasteland and i couldn't resist but double loot the main stash.
@@cedricwilson1593 alright thanks. Seen someone say the quests weren’t worth a shit to upgrade but if that’s the look I will be investing perks into it.
i found a new way to wire up the garage doors for the ZOMBIE-PROOF UNDERGROUND BASE ENTRY. you built the garage door system like you did but instead on battery banks use one generator wired to the motion sensor first, then wire the motion sensor to the lights to suck up all the power. then wire the generator to the doors individually (not in series only one door will close). the doors will always be powered up and the lights off when the motion senors see you they turn the light on taking all the power and the doors will open up the passageway. or you do the same with the door but in a wall always powered open tell the motion sensor sees a zombie turning lights on and the doors losing power closing in front off them.
so excited to see you making JaWoodle park again I didn't get to see much of the old one bc I can in to watching your videos just last year but I love ever min of it
Man, I really wish I had known about this way sooner... This works so much better than any other type of horde base we've used in the past... We actually have it attached to the side of our main base now and helps with the wandering hordes that come after us
You didn't mention that the pit with stairs bringing the zambonis back up protects the pillars from rage mode completely since you choose where they come back up. Also, instead of putting a second layer of bars you could have just put poles across the top. Looks empty to you, but is full to them. Then, later, you can fill the middle in with powered hatches to bring them in for melee fun but if it gets too much, hit the switch and it turns back into the killing corridor.
0:01 Are we finally getting a JaWoodle park episode.You need build a elaborate fence out of the fancy shapes. Edit: You need to build a clock tower with spiral stairs as your plaza as well.
Good to see things working as intended, but also some of the issues that bases face in general. Like, if it's too short, the dogpile from their fall will allow them to reach you (solved by digging a pit with stairs out of it for them to fall into). Also needing a long enough drop section to prevent them from leaping at the bars, and narrow passages needing to be avoided because they jam up and start beating on stuff. All the highlights of survival on horde night. Nice one Josh!
Uhh.. Yeah I just did the same thing, but did everything the same in the video with concrete but instead of concrete bars i used iron and it collapsed in the same way.
The only addition I can think of which helps is iron bars on the pillar bases. Adds a layer of armor, used it for a a19 horde base much like this. You can also put fences along the entry path so they have to stop to jump over them, if the top of your killing area is open.
Need some help here, I tried doing the same build but they go to the corridor only once and then after falling the first time they go straight to destroy my platform. Any ideas?
Just built this base on a testing world out of steel on Alpha 20.7 and I guess it doesn't work because the zombies would smack any block on the pillars and even some in the corridor. I tried a few zombies vs dozens and if one started to smack the blocks it would stay doing it. I even added thin plates to the pillars to try and make the ai think it would take too long to break this whole pillar and instead go up the stairs but that didn't work either. Also weird note I built it out of concrete at first but when I put the bars up the whole thing fell down.
if there was a block that attaches to the rails it would be gap free. also if you closed off one side where you stand you could have a little place to duck behind to reload or apply healing
You need to watch his old woodlepark episodes. This beast is his baby, was the first to make a true killing corridor afk horde base. he has made more than 50 versions of this. Some of them are very bloody cool. My fave has a loot bag collector and he can loot in the middle of the horde whilst corridor takes care of business
i was close to finishing this with what i had available. i used cobblestone blocks, made it all the way to the part where you just need to add the bars on top.. then BAM all my hard work that i spent hours on just crumbled down.. idk why
Always loved the KC. I changed on my current playthrough to the corridor he used in Darkness Falls with the hatches. Makes it nice for a Bat and Shotgun run.
For those who are interested, there is a block named 'cube corner beveled' that is identical to the cupboard used in the video. I haven't done any tests but I assume they have the exact same amount of health and so on, the only difference is the names.
Or, if you want to melee them, maybe use the barn base method and put a pole (or similar shape) for them to run up to you on because that way, they're never going to be able to get more than a couple zombies to the end without falling off and you can easily knock them off.
Wow that works out exceptionally well josh! I have to admit though, me personally? I dont like cheese bases like this. I dont mind exploiting zombie ai for the most part, but bases where they literally cant do anything to me no matter what? Just feels a step too far. Might as well just disable horde nights at that point. But I do have to admit I find the idea of making this my home base hilarious. Setup my full base of storage and crafting tables and such and just not worry about heat production because I could call in 6 screamers and just ignore them entirely or pick them off when the noise starts to bug me. No more keeping my ear open listening to the nighttime noises and wondering if a roamer has shown up. Because it doesnt matter if they do.
I like to imagine that if this was a real life thing; would I want the zombies to get to me? No, I'd do everything I could to keep them from touching me. In A-20 I find the Stage-V POIs to be more dangerous than horde night. I feel like there should be a mix of zombie AI. Zombies that try to get to you directly like in A-17 while also going through the easiest blocks first. So there would be a bunch of zombies beating on the base you are standing on with the corridor. They wouldn't take the path. They would just get as close to you as possible and start beating crap down. While also having zombies the path of least resistance like pathing down the corridor. But as Josh says. Play how you want. There are already people complaining that the drone is game breaking... Just don't use it.
@@speakstheobvious5769 Ugh speaking of tier 5, I just ran the hotel of death for the first time this alpha. Wow. Its a little different, not incredibly so but noticeably. And the zombies come thick and fast. I ended the clear with a splinted arm, sprained leg, 10% infection and an abrasion. On the other hand, once I got used to the swarms I found I was able to melee a significant portion of the crowds with careful backpedaling. Must have gone through a couple dozen rounds of shotgun ammo easy for the final roof clear though. Man that got ugly. But im having a hard time finding ANY tier 5 pois. Found a couple new tier 4s but for some reason there are very few tier 5s in any of my enarby cities and ive been looking because I got what I wanted out of my first round, and now want to explore the new pois and see what old ones got changed and how. I wanted to check out dishong in particular.
i do a version of this base where the wedge tips are just centered poles with a hatch on my end so i can still fight them, and there's still a risk of them breaking through my hatch , but one good whack can knock them off so they don't pile up and beat the hell out of one block
@@speakstheobvious5769 I mean, you summed it up perfectly haha our only advantage as humans throughout our existence has been our intelligence over potential predators that are stronger, quicker, more resilient. In that sense, there is no such thing as a 'cheese base' only bases like this that perfectly leverage our intelligence advtange to counter a known and recurrent threat. However the beauty of this game is that everyone can play their own way! :) IF someone wants to paint themselves with rotting meat and run naked through the horde night for a "cHaLLeNgImNg GaMe!" then more power to them and their very short permadeath runs ;P
@@chrishubbard64 I had the new Dishong Tower as a tier 5 POI. I had to spend the night there as I almost got to the top but just didn't have enough time. I got to the top and my game locked up when all the zombies spawned. I loaded back in and got a few steps and locked up. Back in thing seemed cool but now my focus was off. All the zombies destroyed me. I should have learned my lesson. I had no stakes anymore. Once the game locks and you log back in, the mission resets. So now I had to try and get my stuff back from the top of Dishong when the game keeps locking up (it's the only place I've had any issues with A20). I placed a bed down half way up the tower on the outside as I was nerd poling up because I knew what was in store for me. I died three times trying to get my stuff back and had five more lock ups. I was finally able to get my stuff back and kill enough zombies that the game stopped locking up. It was a freaking nightmare. How many rageing feral zombies and nuclear cops do you have to throw at someone? It's tier 5 yeah, but it's only day 23. And the loot wasn't even worth all the damn trouble.
Hello dear sir, I've tried this horde base/corridor of yours and i want to let you know it worked absolutely perfectly for 80% of the hordenight, then the stairs (basic concrete with 5000hp, alpha 19) broke and the baddies started destroying everything, killed the remaining enemies on foot, which turned out well. Any tips on improving the stairs to get a better flow, so they don't get damaged as much? I'm thinking of pyramid all the way to the corridor instead of just the lower two steps.
Welcome back JaWoodle Park the king of 7d2d videos! thanks for doing this video first, i should have known what i was doing wrong and now its obvious! i actually only build half of the corridor but i didn't give it that bit to change their pathing so they were just beating on the half blocks
which blocks are considered whole blocks and which ones aren't with what has been given to us? If you could maybe set up a raised area and if the zombies drop from stupidity might have to re-do the path but are the arrow slits considered path-able now and if they aren't which other blocks are considered the same
I've been playing with this, and it can't be done with wood. Anything less than cobblestone and it just falls apart once you start to put the cupboard blocks onto the wall.
Thanks for this as I was looking for a simple horde base for A20. Unfortunately when built from wood or cobble the 6 gap is too much and structure falls down. Even a 5 gap was too far when only using wood...
Ah that's the issue I'm having as well as soon as I go to put the cupboard corners up using wood it gives me a red block. Super annoying as I want to use this in an online game.
I love that Bars are now just a standard block. The old iron bars were so much weaker. Even at cobble, the new ones 1,500 HP. Fully upgraded to steel, they're 10k HP. FYI: Spiders can now jump through 1 block gaps. Bit of a hassle in my melee heavy base.. solved easily with an electric fence. ⚡😁
Spiders also seem to be able to jump through a 1 block gap with a plate at the top (so I guess a .9 gap). I had to replace the plates with a half block to keep them out. Nothing is making it through a 1/2 block gap so far LOL
It doesnt work anymore? building collapses everytime. zombies are hitting the pillars after they fall down. some zombies are not repeatingly running to the stairs..
i bought this game in the beginning of january and already played 80 hrs. I love this game so much. Love your videos too, cant get enough of your base designs. For me my bases always fail haha, all my horde nights so far ended with my base getting broken in at a weakspots and zombies come zerging me, maybe 20 zombies per horde night is a bit too much for a "beginner". But i wont give up haha, my next base hopefully is gonna make it with your ideas being used haha :D
The first time I built this I think I made the second gap too big, it caused my entire structure to collapse when I put the roof on. Be careful when you build it and if you are starting out like I was, just use cobblestone for the columns, the rest of it can be wooden without an issue (so far)
Hey Jawoodle! Having some very different results with your killing corridor :( At first I thought it was just me building like a muppet and doing my own thing. But I tore everything down and built it block by block to an exact replica of yours. I have a Gamestage of about 340-350; as soon as the horde night begins they path like intended, but after they fall a lot of them begin berserking. Shortly after about 50% of them just pile around my support blocks and attack them until they break. No interest in pathing back up to me. If it matters, I built it on level ground inside of a town, forest biome. Everything within 15 blocks has been cleared away so I have a nice, clean area to build.
thanks for the video imma have try this build in my world i just started playing agian sence alpha 16 i think so nice to see beginner friendly horde build ! look forward to more of your vidoes
So I tried this, but I ran by a problem. I made my pillars out of steel and the pathing of the zombies seemed to be a bit messed up because the zombies would go after pillars instead of up through the path. So it seems that this base needs to be built out of concrete and no further.
So Joshy boy, the concept seems to be efed up in 20b238. I made a very similar corridor in princiapal but the zombies stop near the edge and start bashing my fff walls, after they wall they mostly go into f everything up mode no idea what's up or why or generally WTF but it's annoys the crap out of. In the vid everything magically works but not for me in the game. Ill keep working on it tho. Im sure it can be fixed.
This is the pinnacle of horde base design, but the basics are there: make the pathing predictable (get off the ground, but having a simple, small structure with a single opening also works for early hordes) and put something strong between you and the zombies (but not too strong). I do like that the new "crawl through a single block" mechanic makes us rethink and tweak base design, but if you keep things simple and follow the key principles you'll be just fine. Looking forward to more JaWoodle park!!! I'd love to see your version of the bare minimum horde base.
I just now started playing Alpha 20 and tried this corridor. Even with the very first horde I did have some "problems". Sure, they do the loopy run around thing but every time a bunch of Zs fall down, 1 or 2 start attacking either the central pillar or the one where my "base" is on. Day 7 horde is of course rather silly but if even that one managed to break blocks I am not so sure how to handle this (aside of fighting back). In that horde night I actually had to leave this base before it came crushing down since central pillar was on 1 block only at the end with the 2nd one damaged. Of course it was only cobble and next one will be concrete but there were constantly some Zs hitting exactly those critical blocks.
11:00 im using the similar build but im using half circular shape instead and zombie do the same thing. most of them will run off the ramp but they will attack the 1/2 block.
Yay for being back in JaWoodle Park! ^w^ I'm definitely looking forward to all the build ideas you'll come up with since there's now so, so many kinds of shapes at your disposal!
Another working method for a team. 3x3 vertical tube. 3 ladders up on opposing sides. Have a electrical wire covering each ladder set. Have a sledge turret at the top. Have a melee character at the top of each ladder playing whack-a-mole. Ranged characters shooting down. Works flawlessly. They go up, get shocked and bonked back down. Go back up again. Ours is 10blocks tall. Just tested it on day 30 (our horde days are every 10days cause math is hard.) Had 8 players in the horde base. 1 death due to a demo boy boom, but the base was unphased.
Can you try to make it a balancing act by making a walkway that doesn't have walls, but has really thin floors that curves and turns, because when they rush you and is bumping into each other, they will slide off. Especially cool if it zig zags. Also wonder if electric trap doors with floors can be utilized to trick zombies to walk over and then collapse and reset.
May i ask if the zombies suddenly decide to hit the pillars was a mistake that i did while building or is it just normal for a zombie to go mad after failing to 1)jump to me several times or 2) have aggro on the pillars after i shot it?
I had a base similar to this in a19... zombie corridor leading to main base, i had support pillars every 4 tiles in a grid, so only 3 tile gaps... worked for about 3 days til my crops grew and the entire base collapsed. Death by corn. Haven't made a platform base since... now I burrow to bedrock instead D:
If you go into setting you can access the demo build world that shows you every block laid out and you can walk around and look at them. Really great for build ideas.
I honestly use for the first hordes that broken concrete buildings they can hold easy 4-5 hordes out before you need to replace some blocks or repair some critical damage, but thats with me killing some of them and gets you a good level ups at the start. I wish hill bunkers (own build) would be more effective against hordes, instead such contraptions.
If a pit is built/dug, would it do any harm with placing some type of turret at the bottom? Or would it be better to do as you did and throw nades down?
I wonder if the wood slits still work as an invisible barrier or not. Would love to see if it still works! Glad to see that JaWoodle Park will be making a come back!
I agree completely with alot of the comments that have been posted already, I have been waiting for you to do this corridor test to see if the AI pathing still works. Thank you so much for getting to the nitty gritty in JWP again. I like the fact as well that you are helping new players to the game understand the what, how and why of this corridor horde base too. This is not any kind of negative feedback, but I noticed in your video that you are just busting out the build maybe a bit too fast for people to catch which blocks you are using. Could you maybe post a text link on your vid with a list of block shapes that you used or something like that? As you pointed out, the new block menu is freakin huge. lol Anyway, excellent work my man, you are a rockstar for 7 Days to Die content. Cheers!
Just built this base. Tested it twice to make sure. After the zombies fall they start thrashing the pillars and start attacking nearby structures as well
Hey mate, in A19 you had a no cheese melee base that you could throw up very quickly, was great for early game. Now the Zombies are crawling through the gap that you would use to melee them through. Wondering if melee during horde night is now dead because of this mechanic, hopefully not.
so im making this in survival an it falls down after getting to a certain point. i have found that making in in survival the mid needs to be beefier as it is week when building from wood. i get to ware i an placing the cupboards block an that is when it is showing purple an collapses. just wanted to let u know @JaWoodle
After this was filmed the devs released a new pathing update to specifically nerf this build... But I've fixed it 😎 New video coming very soon!
So excited for a Jawoodle Park 🏞️ episode! You're awesome Woodle much love from the US 💜!
Are you sure you are a muppet 😂😂😂
Please keep in mind everything smaller than a half block like poles, plates, wedgetips etc. got massive reduced hitpoints. Poles for example have only 25% of a full or half block.
you can rotate lanterns now ;)
Man don't worry about explaining it for the new subs the old subs know you enough, I only have this game for ps4 and I have watched your videos for a while now lol wouldn't mind a muppet special, just a compilation of the muppet moments over the years.
This is fantastic man. Well done on the explanation for those that have never built one before. Glad to see it still works.
Thanks man! It may not be the base I build for myself anymore, but I like the idea of it saving a couple new player's lives on occasion haha
Its not so good it works, it removes the fun to see if you can survive horde night and kind of removes immersion and apprehension too. Might as well turn horde night off if you build this base. I would hope that the devs could find a way to make 50 percent of horde night zombies stupid zombies that just break any blocks on the way to the player. That would make horde night unpredictable and more intense.
@@casapa9202 don't be a wet sock
@@casapa9202 "I don't like it when people play the game in a way I don't agree with, everyone should have to play it the way I want to" -that's what you sound like
@@casapa9202 Cops kinda do that. Their vomit can damage blocks. Imagine a couple cops not even trying to path to you, just standing and spitting at your position.
Something to consider for this base. There is a block a lot of people are using to make floating bases. Even though it's very tiny, it has full HP, so a tiny bit of a block can have 5000 or 10k HP, yet be nearly impossible for zombies to lock on to to hit. You could use that for the pillars on the side of the corridor you're standing on, so the zombies literally have nothing to hit to cause a collapse. Combined with the endless cycle of them wanting to run the corridor, you'd be completely safe there.
Yes! A JaWoodle Park episode. JaWoodle Park is what got me started watching this channel years ago. The number of blocks that we have to work with now is crazy. I'm loving it. Good job Josh.
You could also make your platform pillar wider and have a trapdoor and ladder to enter the hollow middle to repair it. Also, covering it for the damn birds, though I think you mentioned that one
Awesome! A most effective unpowered base, as long as you have sufficient ranged weaponry. If you are really short on materials you can shorten the length of the corridor a bit, but as Josh noted, since they don't attack the structure much you could use wood for much of it. You could add electric posts in the corridor to make it a head shot shooting gallery later.
A TFP counter to this would be to make bunker buster zeds that attack your horizontal position and ignore your vertical position. Imagine having to counter waves of busters going for your foundation during the horde.
I do wish there was an iron material though before steel (frame, wood, cobble, cement, *iron*, steel). The lack of an iron block before steel irks me a bit since you can forge iron long before steel.
Iron would be weeker then concrete.
I've said for a long time that I think the best version of zombie AI would have a mix of dumb/smart. Make regular zombies have dumb AI, but then specialist zombies (like construction worker/wights/etc) have smart AI. No cheese can perfectly/easily handle both, but it would make early game more intense
I made the a19 killing corridor in a20 and in horde day 35 they tunneled under the platform and collapsed the whole build. Whole base was concrete and there was some steel in hot areas. It was nuts so we desperately need this for our multiplayer server. Maybe a future multiplayer horde base that can accommodate everyone
He's making what's called a "zwinger".
For years now whenever you make a corridor video I check the comments for the Funpimps, I bet they're lurking here somewhere.
this almost feels like gloating to the game devs like 'hey look my base still works, and now you have given me better blocks to make it look awesome.'
Give us back the barbwire......
haha he doesn't even have to gloat, just a fact now that they haven't had an answer to the mad scientist genius that JW packin... honestly they should have hired him on well before now to do exactly what he does on the reg!
TFP pushing zombie A.I. into the future just to stop the corridor
Yeah, they love to see these and patxh them out. Stupid. Not everyone loves getting thier bases destroyed every 7 days.
Thanks for the base building ideas.
I know that a patch came out where they nerfed many blocks, so you just have to keep that in mind when building your base.
Can't wait to see your future builds.
I gotchu dw, more coming
Great build for newbies and veterans alike! Easily built out of wood for the first horde and then just upgrade. Start with the critical parts like the stairs, pillars and the *tip* (giggity).
Melee horde base next?
Tried making this out of wood, then cobble and when placing the roof bars it crashes down :(
Nice to know the killing corridor still works, sometimes a classic just stays a classic!
Not sure what he did, but this video is extremely misleading. Zombies are now coded to go after support pillars and walls before they come after you. So they would just break down the bottom part and everything crumbles.
@@Raavyn18 Spot on!! pretty much any build guide gets smashed by the zmboids
I put some hay under where they drop and it seems to remove the rage from when they get hurt. Also they have reduced the strength of the pillars by 75% and I think the plates by 50% or they maybe the same as the pillars. Have a good one.
Skinny blocks have less health. 1/2 blocks seem to stay full strength, but anything smaller has much less health. Makes sense, so I'm not mad.
@@CapObv yeah I just watched a video and they went through and gave the figures from the developers. Just wanted to warn Jawoodle as he is relying on the poles to be safe. If he doesn't know about the changes it will be a bit of a surprise. The changes do not bother me either as I use blocks which are stronger.
The drop isn't hurting them...it's the other zombies smacking them that sets off the rage....zombies don't seem to take fall damage until around 30 blocks.
I like how two zombies at the end just decide to go running off into the desert for a minute, before realising that there's still a horde going on and they've got a job to do.
there was a third one in the bottom right corner that never came back
Great video
You can also make the zombies fall down by themselves by making a pole or pillar bridge and, at the end, use a wedge tip 1 block high and 1 block to either right or left of pillar bridge
You see, they see those wedges as a viable crawling option (instead of a normal path) and they forget their floor when they crawl
One of the first things I did when I had the mats was build a killing corridor. I'm finding some zombies get absolutely fixated with one particular block just before the drop into the pit of doom. Apart from that it works like a dream. Cheers Josh.
After about 14 mins in, when you added that little bit, reminds me of a shape of a Zipper for many coats/pants.
Nice work! I used something like this but mine was more compact and took damage from jumping/falling zombies. I just need to extend it out I think. A pit works really well with the new bevel cube block at your feet to toss pipe bombs thru and stand on. No more flipping hatches open and closed! Love the new blocks so much!
I was thinking about this, theres actually a block that is mostly solid but has a cylindrical cutout, like a straw, going through it. I believe the hit box allows you to shoot thru or toss bombs thru the cutout, but not let your body fit thru
@@stevdor6146 Thanks, I will try that one too!
my day 7 was something like this, with centered poles instead of wedges, so i still had a bit of challenge. they came up to my hatches like woodles fists only corridor, but a whack from a bat knocks them off :D or knocks their head off
For a bit of fun, make this base tall (16 blocks or more), and force the zombies to fall into a chute, which is lined with blade traps. I call it the zombie grinder base - zombies come in, and minced zombies come out. The only problem is powering all the blade traps. Multiple generators are usually necessary.
Look up the word 'abattoir'
How does this handle the demolition zeds? Does it trigger their explosives, or do they just die or fall through just fine?
Was looking forward to the return to the park but I'm curious on new ladder/shutter mechanics. Testing for another day I guess.
I have plans
We use a ladder setup and it works great. Described it in another post
I love killing corridors. That and the zombie forcefield are the most fun things to build.
Maybe I'm just blind but I didn't notice any cops towards the big horde end of the video? Any suggestions about the cops spitting out kabobs???
Thanks for giving instructions on how to build this, I had no idea how it was done.
You're welcome! Good luck, and have fun!
The Spider jumped 3 times in your face! And one made it to the platform. That jump looked really cool :D Good spidy boy, have a bonk. :D
And the new hodded guy just left your party at 23:12 xD You can see him running against the cactus at 23:49. He's just done with the world. Man that's hilarious as always.
Would love to see some cops and the new tumor-thingy zombie. The cops do explode, right? (I could be wrong, but every cop I came across in the Wasteland exploded on the street and I never saw a mine directly placed on the streets there so I'm not sure.)
Nice video mate! :)
Great to see you testing again! Hope to see you revisit the melee base from Extinction, been having issues with the Zs beating the base instead of pathing up the steps.
make your bars weaker than the stuff around you , they'll go for the weakest path
Today is the morning of my wedding, but I've got to get my Jawoodle fix for today. I'd have to call the wedding off if I couldn't watch you while having my morning coffee.
Hurray JaWoodle park is back!
Also questing never felt so rewarding. I highly recommend to go towards daring adventurer 4. On day 46, after doing a shitload of T4 quests Jenny girl gave me a legendary shotgun bundle, containing a lvl 6 autoshotty and some ammo. As 2nd reward 500, yes bloody 500 steel blocks! Didn't touch any of the T5 quests so far but i will after day 50.
Definitely. Questing is so satisfying now!
@@JaWoodle done my first T5 factory today, was a blast and got me almost killed. I might take the drone with me again, found the heal mod. No spoilers, but the loot was damn good, quest was in the wasteland and i couldn't resist but double loot the main stash.
@@cedricwilson1593 you on alpha 20?
@@Vvapr ofc i am, done 63 horde today, currently on survivalist and 32 zeds.
@@cedricwilson1593 alright thanks. Seen someone say the quests weren’t worth a shit to upgrade but if that’s the look I will be investing perks into it.
i found a new way to wire up the garage doors for the ZOMBIE-PROOF UNDERGROUND BASE ENTRY. you built the garage door system like you did but instead on battery banks use one generator wired to the motion sensor first, then wire the motion sensor to the lights to suck up all the power. then wire the generator to the doors individually (not in series only one door will close).
the doors will always be powered up and the lights off when the motion senors see you they turn the light on taking all the power and the doors will open up the passageway.
or you do the same with the door but in a wall always powered open tell the motion sensor sees a zombie turning lights on and the doors losing power closing in front off them.
Hell yeah Jawoodle park! Been waiting for this.
so excited to see you making JaWoodle park again I didn't get to see much of the old one bc I can in to watching your videos just last year but I love ever min of it
Man, I really wish I had known about this way sooner... This works so much better than any other type of horde base we've used in the past... We actually have it attached to the side of our main base now and helps with the wandering hordes that come after us
You didn't mention that the pit with stairs bringing the zambonis back up protects the pillars from rage mode completely since you choose where they come back up. Also, instead of putting a second layer of bars you could have just put poles across the top. Looks empty to you, but is full to them. Then, later, you can fill the middle in with powered hatches to bring them in for melee fun but if it gets too much, hit the switch and it turns back into the killing corridor.
So, just to make sure I have it right. Wedge tip inside corner, wedge tips, and half blocks. Right?
0:01 Are we finally getting a JaWoodle park episode.You need build a elaborate fence out of the fancy shapes.
Edit: You need to build a clock tower with spiral stairs as your plaza as well.
Good to see things working as intended, but also some of the issues that bases face in general. Like, if it's too short, the dogpile from their fall will allow them to reach you (solved by digging a pit with stairs out of it for them to fall into). Also needing a long enough drop section to prevent them from leaping at the bars, and narrow passages needing to be avoided because they jam up and start beating on stuff. All the highlights of survival on horde night. Nice one Josh!
I was building this and a larger part of it collapsed when I placed the bars above the corridor. Only the columns was left. That was fun.
Yup I had the same thing, even with cobble. The 6 wide between pillars seems to be too far
Uhh.. Yeah I just did the same thing, but did everything the same in the video with concrete but instead of concrete bars i used iron and it collapsed in the same way.
The only addition I can think of which helps is iron bars on the pillar bases. Adds a layer of armor, used it for a a19 horde base much like this. You can also put fences along the entry path so they have to stop to jump over them, if the top of your killing area is open.
Need some help here, I tried doing the same build but they go to the corridor only once and then after falling the first time they go straight to destroy my platform. Any ideas?
For a special note, I tried this with cobblestone and the zombies would hit on the pillars. When upgraded to concrete they would path properly.
@ENG my shit collapsed btwn the pillars too. Did you figure it out??
Just built this base on a testing world out of steel on Alpha 20.7 and I guess it doesn't work because the zombies would smack any block on the pillars and even some in the corridor. I tried a few zombies vs dozens and if one started to smack the blocks it would stay doing it. I even added thin plates to the pillars to try and make the ai think it would take too long to break this whole pillar and instead go up the stairs but that didn't work either. Also weird note I built it out of concrete at first but when I put the bars up the whole thing fell down.
How do you get out of your body like that? Sorry if it’s been asked before.
if there was a block that attaches to the rails it would be gap free.
also if you closed off one side where you stand you could have a little place to duck behind to reload or apply healing
You need to watch his old woodlepark episodes.
This beast is his baby, was the first to make a true killing corridor afk horde base. he has made more than 50 versions of this. Some of them are very bloody cool.
My fave has a loot bag collector and he can loot in the middle of the horde whilst corridor takes care of business
i was close to finishing this with what i had available. i used cobblestone blocks, made it all the way to the part where you just need to add the bars on top.. then BAM all my hard work that i spent hours on just crumbled down.. idk why
Always loved the KC. I changed on my current playthrough to the corridor he used in Darkness Falls with the hatches. Makes it nice for a Bat and Shotgun run.
For those who are interested, there is a block named 'cube corner beveled' that is identical to the cupboard used in the video. I haven't done any tests but I assume they have the exact same amount of health and so on, the only difference is the names.
Or, if you want to melee them, maybe use the barn base method and put a pole (or similar shape) for them to run up to you on because that way, they're never going to be able to get more than a couple zombies to the end without falling off and you can easily knock them off.
Wow that works out exceptionally well josh! I have to admit though, me personally? I dont like cheese bases like this. I dont mind exploiting zombie ai for the most part, but bases where they literally cant do anything to me no matter what? Just feels a step too far. Might as well just disable horde nights at that point. But I do have to admit I find the idea of making this my home base hilarious. Setup my full base of storage and crafting tables and such and just not worry about heat production because I could call in 6 screamers and just ignore them entirely or pick them off when the noise starts to bug me. No more keeping my ear open listening to the nighttime noises and wondering if a roamer has shown up. Because it doesnt matter if they do.
I like to imagine that if this was a real life thing; would I want the zombies to get to me? No, I'd do everything I could to keep them from touching me. In A-20 I find the Stage-V POIs to be more dangerous than horde night.
I feel like there should be a mix of zombie AI. Zombies that try to get to you directly like in A-17 while also going through the easiest blocks first. So there would be a bunch of zombies beating on the base you are standing on with the corridor. They wouldn't take the path. They would just get as close to you as possible and start beating crap down. While also having zombies the path of least resistance like pathing down the corridor.
But as Josh says. Play how you want. There are already people complaining that the drone is game breaking... Just don't use it.
@@speakstheobvious5769 Ugh speaking of tier 5, I just ran the hotel of death for the first time this alpha. Wow. Its a little different, not incredibly so but noticeably. And the zombies come thick and fast. I ended the clear with a splinted arm, sprained leg, 10% infection and an abrasion. On the other hand, once I got used to the swarms I found I was able to melee a significant portion of the crowds with careful backpedaling. Must have gone through a couple dozen rounds of shotgun ammo easy for the final roof clear though. Man that got ugly.
But im having a hard time finding ANY tier 5 pois. Found a couple new tier 4s but for some reason there are very few tier 5s in any of my enarby cities and ive been looking because I got what I wanted out of my first round, and now want to explore the new pois and see what old ones got changed and how. I wanted to check out dishong in particular.
i do a version of this base where the wedge tips are just centered poles with a hatch on my end so i can still fight them, and there's still a risk of them breaking through my hatch , but one good whack can knock them off so they don't pile up and beat the hell out of one block
@@speakstheobvious5769 I mean, you summed it up perfectly haha our only advantage as humans throughout our existence has been our intelligence over potential predators that are stronger, quicker, more resilient. In that sense, there is no such thing as a 'cheese base' only bases like this that perfectly leverage our intelligence advtange to counter a known and recurrent threat. However the beauty of this game is that everyone can play their own way! :) IF someone wants to paint themselves with rotting meat and run naked through the horde night for a "cHaLLeNgImNg GaMe!" then more power to them and their very short permadeath runs ;P
@@chrishubbard64 I had the new Dishong Tower as a tier 5 POI. I had to spend the night there as I almost got to the top but just didn't have enough time. I got to the top and my game locked up when all the zombies spawned. I loaded back in and got a few steps and locked up. Back in thing seemed cool but now my focus was off. All the zombies destroyed me. I should have learned my lesson. I had no stakes anymore. Once the game locks and you log back in, the mission resets. So now I had to try and get my stuff back from the top of Dishong when the game keeps locking up (it's the only place I've had any issues with A20).
I placed a bed down half way up the tower on the outside as I was nerd poling up because I knew what was in store for me. I died three times trying to get my stuff back and had five more lock ups. I was finally able to get my stuff back and kill enough zombies that the game stopped locking up. It was a freaking nightmare. How many rageing feral zombies and nuclear cops do you have to throw at someone? It's tier 5 yeah, but it's only day 23. And the loot wasn't even worth all the damn trouble.
Just built this today. Horde night was so much better. Thank you!
Hello dear sir, I've tried this horde base/corridor of yours and i want to let you know it worked absolutely perfectly for 80% of the hordenight, then the stairs (basic concrete with 5000hp, alpha 19) broke and the baddies started destroying everything, killed the remaining enemies on foot, which turned out well. Any tips on improving the stairs to get a better flow, so they don't get damaged as much? I'm thinking of pyramid all the way to the corridor instead of just the lower two steps.
so Josh, how well is this going to work against the new Zombie? ran into them in the Wastelands and they are no fun.
All zombies use the same AI, so exactly the same as the others :)
14:00 your name sounds like a limp noodle, your confidence and commentary implies that that might be accurate. Great content!
I appreciate you covering the basics! As a new player I found the whole building part confusing and time consuming to figure out!
Welcome back JaWoodle Park the king of 7d2d videos! thanks for doing this video first, i should have known what i was doing wrong and now its obvious! i actually only build half of the corridor but i didn't give it that bit to change their pathing so they were just beating on the half blocks
which blocks are considered whole blocks and which ones aren't with what has been given to us? If you could maybe set up a raised area and if the zombies drop from stupidity might have to re-do the path but are the arrow slits considered path-able now and if they aren't which other blocks are considered the same
I've been playing with this, and it can't be done with wood. Anything less than cobblestone and it just falls apart once you start to put the cupboard blocks onto the wall.
SAME!
Thanks for this as I was looking for a simple horde base for A20. Unfortunately when built from wood or cobble the 6 gap is too much and structure falls down. Even a 5 gap was too far when only using wood...
Ah that's the issue I'm having as well as soon as I go to put the cupboard corners up using wood it gives me a red block. Super annoying as I want to use this in an online game.
I love that Bars are now just a standard block. The old iron bars were so much weaker. Even at cobble, the new ones 1,500 HP. Fully upgraded to steel, they're 10k HP.
FYI: Spiders can now jump through 1 block gaps. Bit of a hassle in my melee heavy base.. solved easily with an electric fence. ⚡😁
Spiders also seem to be able to jump through a 1 block gap with a plate at the top (so I guess a .9 gap). I had to replace the plates with a half block to keep them out. Nothing is making it through a 1/2 block gap so far LOL
Haven’t seen you in forever and I feel your voice have grown 😍 thanks for this.
The burning campfires under the hole where they are dropping makes the work done by themself :D
It doesnt work anymore?
building collapses everytime.
zombies are hitting the pillars after they fall down.
some zombies are not repeatingly running to the stairs..
Welcome back JaWoodle Park!
i bought this game in the beginning of january and already played 80 hrs. I love this game so much.
Love your videos too, cant get enough of your base designs.
For me my bases always fail haha, all my horde nights so far ended with my base getting broken in at a weakspots and zombies come zerging me, maybe 20 zombies per horde night is a bit too much for a "beginner".
But i wont give up haha, my next base hopefully is gonna make it with your ideas being used haha :D
The first time I built this I think I made the second gap too big, it caused my entire structure to collapse when I put the roof on. Be careful when you build it and if you are starting out like I was, just use cobblestone for the columns, the rest of it can be wooden without an issue (so far)
I had the same issue, it must be built out of cobblestone or higher as wood isnt strong enough to support it
Josh, Try to make a 1.5 block AKA 4.5M Killing corridor and see if the zeds move slower crouched than upright.
Not much slower....the crawling speed animation is super creepy...Liz has tested a 'crawl base' on her channel.
Hey Jawoodle! Having some very different results with your killing corridor :(
At first I thought it was just me building like a muppet and doing my own thing. But I tore everything down and built it block by block to an exact replica of yours. I have a Gamestage of about 340-350; as soon as the horde night begins they path like intended, but after they fall a lot of them begin berserking. Shortly after about 50% of them just pile around my support blocks and attack them until they break. No interest in pathing back up to me.
If it matters, I built it on level ground inside of a town, forest biome. Everything within 15 blocks has been cleared away so I have a nice, clean area to build.
He uploaded a new video addressing this issue and he fixes it in said video
Fascinating to see so many different kinds of horde bases...and it makes me grin not seeing my style of base anywhere else.
thanks for the video imma have try this build in my world i just started playing agian sence alpha 16 i think so nice to see beginner friendly horde build ! look forward to more of your vidoes
Lol did you notice Arlene's name tag, I just spit out my drink laughing xD
So I tried this, but I ran by a problem. I made my pillars out of steel and the pathing of the zombies seemed to be a bit messed up because the zombies would go after pillars instead of up through the path. So it seems that this base needs to be built out of concrete and no further.
This is a new pathing update they brought out after this was filmed. Updated video coming soon :)
So Joshy boy, the concept seems to be efed up in 20b238. I made a very similar corridor in princiapal but the zombies stop near the edge and start bashing my fff walls, after they wall they mostly go into f everything up mode no idea what's up or why or generally WTF but it's annoys the crap out of. In the vid everything magically works but not for me in the game.
Ill keep working on it tho. Im sure it can be fixed.
This is the pinnacle of horde base design, but the basics are there: make the pathing predictable (get off the ground, but having a simple, small structure with a single opening also works for early hordes) and put something strong between you and the zombies (but not too strong). I do like that the new "crawl through a single block" mechanic makes us rethink and tweak base design, but if you keep things simple and follow the key principles you'll be just fine.
Looking forward to more JaWoodle park!!! I'd love to see your version of the bare minimum horde base.
I just now started playing Alpha 20 and tried this corridor. Even with the very first horde I did have some "problems". Sure, they do the loopy run around thing but every time a bunch of Zs fall down, 1 or 2 start attacking either the central pillar or the one where my "base" is on.
Day 7 horde is of course rather silly but if even that one managed to break blocks I am not so sure how to handle this (aside of fighting back). In that horde night I actually had to leave this base before it came crushing down since central pillar was on 1 block only at the end with the 2nd one damaged. Of course it was only cobble and next one will be concrete but there were constantly some Zs hitting exactly those critical blocks.
A worm tube with the curved blocks!
11:00 im using the similar build but im using half circular shape instead and zombie do the same thing. most of them will run off the ramp but they will attack the 1/2 block.
I'd never tried a killing corridor before, so I just tried your design in my game and it worked GREAT. They barely did any damage to it at all.
Yay for being back in JaWoodle Park! ^w^ I'm definitely looking forward to all the build ideas you'll come up with since there's now so, so many kinds of shapes at your disposal!
Another working method for a team. 3x3 vertical tube. 3 ladders up on opposing sides. Have a electrical wire covering each ladder set. Have a sledge turret at the top. Have a melee character at the top of each ladder playing whack-a-mole. Ranged characters shooting down.
Works flawlessly.
They go up, get shocked and bonked back down. Go back up again.
Ours is 10blocks tall. Just tested it on day 30 (our horde days are every 10days cause math is hard.) Had 8 players in the horde base. 1 death due to a demo boy boom, but the base was unphased.
Can you try to make it a balancing act by making a walkway that doesn't have walls, but has really thin floors that curves and turns, because when they rush you and is bumping into each other, they will slide off. Especially cool if it zig zags.
Also wonder if electric trap doors with floors can be utilized to trick zombies to walk over and then collapse and reset.
Could also knock out the lowest block at higher game stage and put some blades along the main runway. Dunno. I like the tire-spinners.
May i ask if the zombies suddenly decide to hit the pillars was a mistake that i did while building or is it just normal for a zombie to go mad after failing to 1)jump to me several times or 2) have aggro on the pillars after i shot it?
Ahhhh, man how I miss JaWoodle Park..I remember watching you build that beautiful place up base by base, idea by idea..you’re still the best Josh..
I had a base similar to this in a19... zombie corridor leading to main base, i had support pillars every 4 tiles in a grid, so only 3 tile gaps... worked for about 3 days til my crops grew and the entire base collapsed. Death by corn. Haven't made a platform base since... now I burrow to bedrock instead D:
If you go into setting you can access the demo build world that shows you every block laid out and you can walk around and look at them. Really great for build ideas.
if you go into setting.
uh.
no.
If you go into level editor and load up the poi that shows the blocks, you can.
I honestly use for the first hordes that broken concrete buildings they can hold easy 4-5 hordes out before you need to replace some blocks or repair some critical damage, but thats with me killing some of them and gets you a good level ups at the start. I wish hill bunkers (own build) would be more effective against hordes, instead such contraptions.
If a pit is built/dug, would it do any harm with placing some type of turret at the bottom? Or would it be better to do as you did and throw nades down?
I wonder if the wood slits still work as an invisible barrier or not. Would love to see if it still works! Glad to see that JaWoodle Park will be making a come back!
wonder if the forcefield works
nice one mate. just getting back into 7Days after 4-5 months off and this video helped alot. thanks alot boss :)
I agree completely with alot of the comments that have been posted already, I have been waiting for you to do this corridor test to see if the AI pathing still works. Thank you so much for getting to the nitty gritty in JWP again. I like the fact as well that you are helping new players to the game understand the what, how and why of this corridor horde base too. This is not any kind of negative feedback, but I noticed in your video that you are just busting out the build maybe a bit too fast for people to catch which blocks you are using. Could you maybe post a text link on your vid with a list of block shapes that you used or something like that? As you pointed out, the new block menu is freakin huge. lol Anyway, excellent work my man, you are a rockstar for 7 Days to Die content. Cheers!
I can't figure out how you got it solid underneath the base of the steps. I don't have enough hair left to just pull it all out.
Large dome pillar tips make the best floating balls. Balls and a Sammie makes you an any level/gamestage afk base
Adding smg turrets to the front facing in is a good way to not hit demo buttons
Does the arrowslits still work? As in the zombies cant see them, so you can make a path around the corridor, so you have easy access to your cage?
Just built this base. Tested it twice to make sure. After the zombies fall they start thrashing the pillars and start attacking nearby structures as well
You tested that base against everything except.... COPS and Vultures!!! Those pesky spitters can really ruin your day Josh :D
This killing corridor is even more flawless than all of the previous alphas. How perfectly quaint, I'll be using this soon in my streams ❤
Hey mate, in A19 you had a no cheese melee base that you could throw up very quickly, was great for early game. Now the Zombies are crawling through the gap that you would use to melee them through. Wondering if melee during horde night is now dead because of this mechanic, hopefully not.
aaaah Jawoodle Park, my favourite episodes!
so im making this in survival an it falls down after getting to a certain point. i have found that making in in survival the mid needs to be beefier as it is week when building from wood. i get to ware i an placing the cupboards block an that is when it is showing purple an collapses. just wanted to let u know @JaWoodle
The return of JaWoodle Park, doesn't get any better!
when placing the concrete bars on top the whole structure collapses?? only the bars are causing this. help please