A wonderful film. I am very fascinated by it and enjoyed listening and watching it. Very interesting impressions and information about the production of Bechstein pianos and much more. Bechstein is a wonderful piano manufacturer. Thank you very much for this film, it was an enrichment for me!
While I love Bechsteins, the script of this video has to be some of the most rich and overwrought prose ever brought to screen, an advertisement that goes on for forty minutes is more than even the greatest fan of Bechstein can bear. Tell us some interesting things which set the construction of the Bechstein apart from other similar manufacturers. Tell us maybe about some historical advances and recent developments, and above all, let us hear the unadultered sound.
This is a promotional video of the c bechstein piano, not a technical explanation of the artistry that results in the bechstein sound, not the use of oscilloscopes to measure wave form, etc. For that you need to look elsewhere. If you want to hear the unadultered sound, you want to visit one of their studios and listen to your own performance on a bechstein piano. Every sound you hear will be ones that you produced with your own fingers...
Looks very impressive, the detail. Hand made and all that. But I am a big fan of the English school piano with classic school hall reverb, it is humble and bright, without losing expressiveness. But I grew up listening to these at a very tender age compliment ING the voices of Christ hyms
Folks, it's just like that C. BECHSTEIN builds the best pianos and grand pianos in the world C. BECHSTEIN wins every musician's heart ❤ ... 🎹🎼🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶❤❤❤
Sadly the key to designing and manufacturing unique pianos is not to obsess about CNC level of precision in cutting parts. Precision is necessary but not enough. What matters It is to understand processes and special processes and techniques that change the sound of a piano. That requires trial and error and constant experimenting, not small experimenting but daring innovative. Probably some golden era piano making processes were lost in WWII. This requires less computers, and more experimenting with wood and wood and iron harp acoustic engineering, not machining parts to 0.000...1 precision.
As a retired aerospace engineer, I don't think that technical precision and manual labor needs to conflict in the joint effort to produce a piano that is pleasing to the ear and to the touch. By definition, a piano is a romantic musical instrument as it is composed of 88 individual keys that together can produce an integrated and pleasing sound and melody. Such is its beauty to experience.
Please... if you want to educate yourself on this matter, then know that Jews were part of the WW2 German Nazi Army, including Jewish Nazi officers. Google Jews in Nazi Germany's Army. I believe that there were over 150,000 jews who fought in Hitler's Nazi Army, including Jewish Nazi officers. But if that makes you uncomfortable, you can always call it FAKE NEWS!
If piano were a painting medium, Bechstein would be oil painting and watercolors (clarity on all registers, singing tone, transparent) whereas Steinway would be acrylic painting (no transparence, opaque saturated colors for each key, harmony creates muddled sound, especially in lower and even mid register).
Guitarists also paint with tone, like Blur guitar player. When I staying playing guitar more seriously after 20 years of dabbling in it, I started seeing colours as melody, or a picture. I think anybody can paint using a piano or a guitar.
goognam goognws, I have owned a Steinway model D for over 44 yrs and far from making " muddled" sounds as you suggest I would not compare the brittle metalic and thin quality of the Bechstein with the golden tone of the Steinway. My Steinway offers a far reaching diversity of colour and tone, has crystal clear bright high and middle registers and a glorious sonorous bass.. Far from being " saturated/ opaque" there is a strongly defined and powerful quality in the clarity of the bass , and I would add througout the whole compass of the instrument. Proof in the pudding----- 95 percent of concert artists use the magnificent Steinway model D as the preferred instrument for their performances, it all comes down to how the instrument is understood and played as to the final poetry of sound emitted.The so called singing sound of the Bechstein is more likely to become " muddled "because it rings on ,thus overlaping previous struck chords e.t.c, however I will close now to the sound of my Steinway sining in my ears.
@@alandavies8562 Well good for you to own a model D. There is ownership bias, and as for artists "choosing" they cannot afford to not choose steinway if offered, it's business and politics.Manufacturer are on each other's throat and no professional pianist can afford to get on the bad side of the most economically successful brand, regardless of sound quality considerations. Of course Steinway are good modern pianos but if you have ever played a romantic era piano in good condition, sound aesthetics have changed and this is the reason no beautiful compositions are made on modern pianos. None that adds them as new repertoire pieces. The blame is on the modern pianos who have become too powerful and demanding on the pianist and thus changed the nature of pianism and eliminated virtuoso pianist-composers and classical piano improvisation.
@@goognamgoognw6637 Your advocacy of the fine brand that is Bechstein at the expense of the first choice of many world reknowned artists (Steinway, of course) is just "coloured" in a way that stretches credulity, it's almost as unctous as this dripping with unct narration going on in the video. Steinway is my favorite piano, piano to piano, but I also really like the Bechstein, And the Bluthner. Some of the Yamahas. There you go.
@@zdogg8 Reading what i wrote, i'm not satisfied with it, i didn't find the right words, it was off what i wanted to say. But yes steinway sound is more saturated, opaque, and the lower the register the more muddled. It does not sing it wants to stun you or hammer you. Their manufacturing quality is very high (although not in par with Bosendorfer) , but that isn't the problem. Their paradigm of what is a good piano is questionable. Too much importance on power and decibels produced, not enough on being a naturally singing instrument, too much inertia in the moving parts. It seems piano designers don't understand more than static newton law. Adding metallic weight in the keys to statically balance them does not reduce inertia it increases it and with that the amount of force required to plays fast. All pianists legends of the past used tweaked lighter action to enable them to play virtuoso pieces (michelangelo Bennedeti, Horrowitz ). They could still play on a standard steinway but not for doing their recordings . What about piano competitions ? Well they rehearse the same piece for months learning micro movements of their fingers, wrist, arm that eventually allows them to play virtoso piece in a convincing way. But think about the composers virtuoso pianists who wrote those pieces, they certainly did not write music that required them 4 months to be able to play at tempo because they had music instruments (pianos) that were easier to play physically (which does not mean it did not require virtuoso technique). Steinways also are the cause for the extinction of the composer/virtuoso pianist. Those who compose for the piano are no longer virtuoso because it became so physically difficult and demanding to play difficult pieces that this alone became a full time career. But it is wrong, thanks to Steinway. Hopefully the future generation pianos will reverse the trend and be more like lean, fast classic dancers not heavyweight machines.
And there were no beautiful Chinese women working there either! The shock of it all! As an aside, most Chinese possess perfect pitch. (You can Google that too.) Which may be one reason that you see Chinese violinists in European symphony orchestras. And some of the world famous female pianists are Chinese.
À lot of french accents here, très heureux de voir ce fabricant populaire parmi tous ces pianistes talentueux
A wonderful film. I am very fascinated by it and enjoyed listening and watching it. Very interesting impressions and information about the production of Bechstein pianos and much more. Bechstein is a wonderful piano manufacturer. Thank you very much for this film, it was an enrichment for me!
Beautiful! C.Bechstein ❤️ forever...
While I love Bechsteins, the script of this video has to be some of the most rich and overwrought prose ever brought to screen, an advertisement that goes on for forty minutes is more than even the greatest fan of Bechstein can bear.
Tell us some interesting things which set the construction of the Bechstein apart from other similar manufacturers. Tell us maybe about some historical advances and recent developments, and above all, let us hear the unadultered sound.
I agree.
This is a promotional video of the c bechstein piano, not a technical explanation of the artistry that results in the bechstein sound, not the use of oscilloscopes to measure wave form, etc. For that you need to look elsewhere.
If you want to hear the unadultered sound, you want to visit one of their studios and listen to your own performance on a bechstein piano. Every sound you hear will be ones that you produced with your own fingers...
Really enjoyed this film. These pianos are aspirational and a work of art
My favorite brand of piano 😭
Looks very impressive, the detail. Hand made and all that. But I am a big fan of the English school piano with classic school hall reverb, it is humble and bright, without losing expressiveness. But I grew up listening to these at a very tender age compliment ING the voices of Christ hyms
Folks, it's just like that C. BECHSTEIN builds the best pianos and grand pianos in the world C. BECHSTEIN wins every musician's heart ❤ ... 🎹🎼🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶❤❤❤
Perfect !
Sadly the key to designing and manufacturing unique pianos is not to obsess about CNC level of precision in cutting parts. Precision is necessary but not enough. What matters It is to understand processes and special processes and techniques that change the sound of a piano. That requires trial and error and constant experimenting, not small experimenting but daring innovative. Probably some golden era piano making processes were lost in WWII. This requires less computers, and more experimenting with wood and wood and iron harp acoustic engineering, not machining parts to 0.000...1 precision.
As a retired aerospace engineer, I don't think that technical precision and manual labor needs to conflict in the joint effort to produce a piano that is pleasing to the ear and to the touch. By definition, a piano is a romantic musical instrument as it is composed of 88 individual keys that together can produce an integrated and pleasing sound and melody. Such is its beauty to experience.
Video is so impressive keep doing it 🤘❤️
I am dying to know the name of the piece playing from 0：42 to 2:20
I don't care how great their pianos are, I won't even touch one until they renounce the Bechstein's contribution to Hitler.
Please... if you want to educate yourself on this matter, then know that Jews were part of the WW2 German Nazi Army, including Jewish Nazi officers.
Google Jews in Nazi Germany's Army. I believe that there were over 150,000 jews who fought in Hitler's Nazi Army, including Jewish Nazi officers.
But if that makes you uncomfortable, you can always call it FAKE NEWS!
Why narrator's voice is so near?!
If piano were a painting medium, Bechstein would be oil painting and watercolors (clarity on all registers, singing tone, transparent) whereas Steinway would be acrylic painting (no transparence, opaque saturated colors for each key, harmony creates muddled sound, especially in lower and even mid register).
Guitarists also paint with tone, like Blur guitar player. When I staying playing guitar more seriously after 20 years of dabbling in it, I started seeing colours as melody, or a picture. I think anybody can paint using a piano or a guitar.
goognam goognws, I have owned a Steinway model D for over 44 yrs and far from making " muddled" sounds as you suggest I would not compare the brittle metalic and thin quality of the Bechstein with the golden tone of the Steinway. My Steinway offers a far reaching diversity of colour and tone, has crystal clear bright high and middle registers and a glorious sonorous bass.. Far from being " saturated/ opaque" there is a strongly defined and powerful quality in the clarity of the bass , and I would add througout the whole compass of the instrument. Proof in the pudding----- 95 percent of concert artists use the magnificent Steinway model D as the preferred instrument for their performances, it all comes down to how the instrument is understood and played as to the final poetry of sound emitted.The so called singing sound of the Bechstein is more likely to become " muddled "because it rings on ,thus overlaping previous struck chords e.t.c, however I will close now to the sound of my Steinway sining in my ears.
@@alandavies8562 Well good for you to own a model D. There is ownership bias, and as for artists "choosing" they cannot afford to not choose steinway if offered, it's business and politics.Manufacturer are on each other's throat and no professional pianist can afford to get on the bad side of the most economically successful brand, regardless of sound quality considerations. Of course Steinway are good modern pianos but if you have ever played a romantic era piano in good condition, sound aesthetics have changed and this is the reason no beautiful compositions are made on modern pianos. None that adds them as new repertoire pieces. The blame is on the modern pianos who have become too powerful and demanding on the pianist and thus changed the nature of pianism and eliminated virtuoso pianist-composers and classical piano improvisation.
@@goognamgoognw6637 Your advocacy of the fine brand that is Bechstein at the expense of the first choice of many world reknowned artists (Steinway, of course) is just "coloured" in a way that stretches credulity, it's almost as unctous as this dripping with unct narration going on in the video. Steinway is my favorite piano, piano to piano, but I also really like the Bechstein, And the Bluthner. Some of the Yamahas. There you go.
@@zdogg8 Reading what i wrote, i'm not satisfied with it, i didn't find the right words, it was off what i wanted to say. But yes steinway sound is more saturated, opaque, and the lower the register the more muddled. It does not sing it wants to stun you or hammer you. Their manufacturing quality is very high (although not in par with Bosendorfer) , but that isn't the problem. Their paradigm of what is a good piano is questionable. Too much importance on power and decibels produced, not enough on being a naturally singing instrument, too much inertia in the moving parts. It seems piano designers don't understand more than static newton law. Adding metallic weight in the keys to statically balance them does not reduce inertia it increases it and with that the amount of force required to plays fast. All pianists legends of the past used tweaked lighter action to enable them to play virtuoso pieces (michelangelo Bennedeti, Horrowitz ). They could still play on a standard steinway but not for doing their recordings . What about piano competitions ? Well they rehearse the same piece for months learning micro movements of their fingers, wrist, arm that eventually allows them to play virtoso piece in a convincing way. But think about the composers virtuoso pianists who wrote those pieces, they certainly did not write music that required them 4 months to be able to play at tempo because they had music instruments (pianos) that were easier to play physically (which does not mean it did not require virtuoso technique).
Steinways also are the cause for the extinction of the composer/virtuoso pianist. Those who compose for the piano are no longer virtuoso because it became so physically difficult and demanding to play difficult pieces that this alone became a full time career. But it is wrong, thanks to Steinway. Hopefully the future generation pianos will reverse the trend and be more like lean, fast classic dancers not heavyweight machines.
Any discussion in this about the Bechsteins' enthusiastic support for Adolph Hitler and the Nazis?
No
i guess only beautiful women work for Bechstein
And there were no beautiful Chinese women working there either! The shock of it all!
As an aside, most Chinese possess perfect pitch. (You can Google that too.) Which may be one reason that you see Chinese violinists in European symphony orchestras. And some of the world famous female pianists are Chinese.