Video Notes: 1) This video has chapters if you'd like skip around. 2) Check out the pulling test at 9:55! 3) There's a blooper at the very end of the video.
Outstanding power on this engine. 100% agree this probably the best pulling steam engine lines made that has a single motor. I was able to pull 49 cars today- no issues - to lazy to get 10-12 more. Comb of Atlas, MTH, Lionel 36 & 40 ft box cars.
@@daivdwalker2374 not everyone come with the elephant ears / smoke deflectors The 614 I just got did not. You should probably refer to the 2022 Vol 2 catalog as they described the features. The one Eric has, the 612, I didn’t know that Lionel provided them.
Fun fact: C&O No. 614 (612's sister locomotive) was originally intended to receive a similar streamline package and paint scheme to pull the 'Chessie' passenger trains with a front cowling similar to that seen on C&O no. 490. However, the streamline package was removed from 614 prior to her leaving Lima in June 1948 since the 'Chessie' passenger service was cancelled by the C&O. This saved roughly 5,000 additional pounds on 614 and saved an additional 3,000 pounds on 614's tender. I found this information in the C&O Archives when researching my new book released this year on 614 in honor of her 75th anniversary (June 1948 - 2023): 'The Chesapeake & Ohio No. 614 Legacy: The Rise and Fall of an American Railroad Legend"
I wish I had the curves for this. I think Lionel should do a LionChief 2.0 model for every Legacy full scale engine they bring out or at least the bigger ones
I'm glad C&O named their 4-8-4 locomotives after a hotel that is a part of their history. That hotel shares its name with my hometown, and is even spelled the same. 5 pounds, five ounces of PULLING POWER? That's NUTS!
After doing about 5 minutes worth of research on your channel, I came to the conclusion that this locomotive is tied for first place as the strongest rigid frame locomotive you've tested on your channel. The other locomotive being a Union Pacific 4-12-2 9000 class.
This a very pretty engine and the passenger cars are great. My son has the MTH Greenbrier which is a very nice running engine. Great detail. Orange silver is great combination. Nice shot on the camera riding on top. It gives a nice view. Jh
Well congratulations 🍾on this major acquisition. So this locomotive is my favorite Steam Engine Lionel has done in recent years. Was so hoping that you ordered one and would do a deep dive and you didn’t disappoint! Absolutely beautiful engine. The silver color really showcases all of the glorious detail . I think the pipe detail under the cab is just amazing. So thank you for the video on this model. Can’t wait to see how the special consist looks when it arrives for this engine. What a beautiful locomotive!
Just got the 614 version and it pulled my 7 K Line KCC K441521C Streamlined Heavyweight Passenger cars with ease. I added just for kicks the Lionel NYC ESE 4 car set and found the same results. Killer power. Well done by Lionel. My cover was also taped on as I think Lionel didn’t want it bouncing around.
I'm with you - the paint scheme is the BFIMO. Thanks for sharing. Will also be interesting to compare the MTH to the Lionel passenger cars when they arrive.
What a gorgeous locomotive!! Like you said, the orange and silver colors pop! I look forward to when you get the matching passenger cars that go along with it and see the train in its entirety. The nighttime shots are absolutely amazing. Seeing all of the lights on the locomotive and passenger cars all lit up looks very cool. You get to see it in a whole new look. Great stuff Eric!
Gorgeous execution of color, detail, sound, and pulling power. Congrats to Lionel for what will probably be one of the most iconic locomotives they have ever produced. I would think that most purists would have bought this loco in one of its black liveried versions, so this unique fantasy item will most likely prove to be rare and much sought after in fifty or a hundred years hence. This unusual Greenbriar is a spectacular blend of the model maker's art, and the fantasy niche of our hobby, resplendent in its exotic make believe paint scheme that just screams "toy train". Thanks, Eric for another well done video. The pure joy you effused as you put this engine on the rails for the first time was truly heartwarming. Your enthusiasm for our hobby strikes a pure chord for all of us that love three rail O scale trains. See you at October York. ColoradoBear
Note: While today we mainly call 4-8-4's "Northern's" after the Northern Pacific which was the first railroad to operate 4-8-4's. During the era these engines ran they were usually not named Northern's with most railroads having their own names for the wheel arrangement. This ranged from the D&RGW and Santa Fe calling their 4-8-4's Mountains like their 4-8-2's to railroads like the NYC, SP, and C&O with names like "Niagara" "Golden State" and "Greenbrier" just to name a few.
I bought one as well, beautiful locomotive. My locomotive and tender came wrap in the clear plastic wrap not the lionel plastic wrap, I wonder if was manufactured in a different factory 🤔. Thanks for sharing
10:52 In 1991, N&W 1218 pulled a short mixed train from Cincinnati to Portsmouth, Ohio consisting of its auxiliary tender, a baggage car, a vista dome car, a hi-cube boxcar and 4 autorack cars
That Greenbrier is absolutely stunning! I do appreciate how Lionel gives you the options of whistles because I don’t think the hooters fit the Greenbriers at all. That being said Lionel might finally produce a prototypical C&O Kanawha using MTH’s tooling, and I think the hooters would be perfect for that. I’d love it if they made a few different versions of 2716!
Now I kinda wish I pre-ordered one. They are stunning for sure. Not that I have any c&o passenger cars, nor a pile of money left over from the Challenger hahaha 😌
Eric, I would recommend you use an Ontario knife next time. They recently got bought out, and closed up their shop in NY, and they're moving business to Virginia.
Just got my preorder in and the dome came off scratched the paint on the hand rails but thankfully nothing broken going to get sliver paint to touch it up
3:12 I swear Lionel’s steamers are getting “smaller” every so often. This Greenbrier looks like a 1:68 scale model in this shot. I just took delivery of my USSF ES44AC from Legacy Station and it feels like a true 1:48 scale model. Even my weathered Commodore Vanderbilt 777 (6-18067) feels like a true 1:48 scale steamer.
@@EricstrainsI figured it out. I recently took delivery of a Marklin 85509 Museum Prussian T3 in 1-Gauge and I haven’t ran 1-Gauge in a while, so when I took the engine out of its box, I realized how larger 1-Gauge was to O-Scale. I had to place it next to my Lionel 777 Commodore Vanderbilt to understand how larger things have gotten. 🤣
Beautiful Mr Eric of Eric trains you so beautiful videos I have almost done making payments only a few left an I bring it home I love you videos an you have a awesome layout GOD bless you an your family an chessi
Great video! Is that buck knife made from volarian steel? I have just received my Lionel 612 Greenbrier and I see that there was just a piece of clear plastic wrapping on the engine and tender, just like your engine, not the regular Lionel wrapping.
Nice engine but the paint scheme is not my cup of tea. Hey Eric, I noticed a couple of exposed phillips head screws on the top of the smoke box, right next to the marker lights. Seems weird Lionel would leave these exposed like that.
Hi Eric! I'm Josh and I'm using my mom's account. I noticed that your orange BNSF auto-carriers match the Greenbrier! Maybe there are unlettered ones with the orange paint available? Then you could letter those to be C&O! Anyways I'm a HO scale modeler and I got an old U36b Bicentennial diesel that was said to never run working again and I was wondering if you have a Bicentennial. Thanks. Josh
11:02 even in model form, a single steam locomotive has the power of three diesels Under less light, the MTH yellow stripe cars match this orange stripe loco a bit better
I did some research on the real life 612 while it was a 4-8-4 in real life it was classified as a j-3a greenbrier i don’t say this to be nitpicey or anything i just wanted to point out a slight mistake that was made
Video Notes:
1) This video has chapters if you'd like skip around.
2) Check out the pulling test at 9:55!
3) There's a blooper at the very end of the video.
Is there other smoke stacks attachments with this engine too?
It's beautiful wished I ordered it
Outstanding power on this engine. 100% agree this probably the best pulling steam engine lines made that has a single motor. I was able to pull 49 cars today- no issues - to lazy to get 10-12 more. Comb of Atlas, MTH, Lionel 36 & 40 ft box cars.
@@daivdwalker2374 not everyone come with the elephant ears / smoke deflectors The 614 I just got did not. You should probably refer to the 2022 Vol 2 catalog as they described the features. The one Eric has, the 612, I didn’t know that Lionel provided them.
What I meant was did it come with different smoke stack attachments some steam engines come with different smoke stacks
Fun fact: C&O No. 614 (612's sister locomotive) was originally intended to receive a similar streamline package and paint scheme to pull the 'Chessie' passenger trains with a front cowling similar to that seen on C&O no. 490. However, the streamline package was removed from 614 prior to her leaving Lima in June 1948 since the 'Chessie' passenger service was cancelled by the C&O. This saved roughly 5,000 additional pounds on 614 and saved an additional 3,000 pounds on 614's tender. I found this information in the C&O Archives when researching my new book released this year on 614 in honor of her 75th anniversary (June 1948 - 2023): 'The Chesapeake & Ohio No. 614 Legacy: The Rise and Fall of an American Railroad Legend"
I wish I had the curves for this. I think Lionel should do a LionChief 2.0 model for every Legacy full scale engine they bring out or at least the bigger ones
How about just a freaking Northern in lioncheif 2.0? I feel you on the tight curves though
Wow! One of the most impressive steam engines of all time for both looks and performance!
This has just become one of my favorite locos in your collection Eric.
Mine too!
that pulling power is insane!!!
This was an awesome review Eric, love that paint scheme!
You and James are without peer with regard to O gauge and HO gauge reviews. Absolutely excellent job as always! Thanks for being there!
Thank you!
This engine is very impressive!
your cat is adorable. I love mine she makes me smile every day!
Mine too!
I love how the lights flicker at the beginning of startup simulating the dynamo spooling up!
Oh, yeah, good point
Wow one of the coolest of all time up to now. Mine is on the way. Can’t wait to get it.
The detail on the tender's Buckeye trucks is stunning. Great locomotive, well done!
I'm glad C&O named their 4-8-4 locomotives after a hotel that is a part of their history. That hotel shares its name with my hometown, and is even spelled the same. 5 pounds, five ounces of PULLING POWER? That's NUTS!
Very cool!
@@Ericstrains Amen to that. Would buy something like that, but don't have track handy to run it.
That’s a great looking engine. The fantasy/could have been paint jobs just keep getting better!
Yep!
I got mine a couple of days ago-gorgeous engine. I love these fantasy locomotives!
Very cool!
After doing about 5 minutes worth of research on your channel, I came to the conclusion that this locomotive is tied for first place as the strongest rigid frame locomotive you've tested on your channel. The other locomotive being a Union Pacific 4-12-2 9000 class.
Saw that too
The second whistle is the same whistle to the Vision line N&W 1218!
Got mine about 2 months ago and the cars are all coming now. Legacy Station had the best prices all around on these. Cannot wait to run this set!!!
Love seeing chessie
So do I!
Love the creativity of lionels fantasy schemes, beautiful engine
Yep!
Great video, the engine is beautiful. That's some pretty impressive pulling power, but so was the prototype. Thanks for taking us along
Glad you enjoyed it
That nighttime shot was amazing and I would love to see of it. 👍
Thanks!
God I love that gorgeous orange 🍊 engine.
Orange Blossom Special!
This a very pretty engine and the passenger cars are great. My son has the MTH Greenbrier which is a very nice running engine. Great detail. Orange silver is great combination. Nice shot on the camera riding on top. It gives a nice view. Jh
She's got some serious 'oomph' there Eric! Very nice addition to your collection.
That is a beauty!!!
Beautiful engine in person looks amazing
I agree!
Enjoyed this video Eric !!! Beautiful model !!¡
I love the orange color
Me too!
Well congratulations 🍾on this major acquisition. So this locomotive is my favorite Steam Engine Lionel has done in recent years. Was so hoping that you ordered one and would do a deep dive and you didn’t disappoint! Absolutely beautiful engine. The silver color really showcases all of the glorious detail . I think the pipe detail under the cab is just amazing. So thank you for the video on this model. Can’t wait to see how the special consist looks when it arrives for this engine. What a beautiful locomotive!
Thanks!
Eric, Wow! That train looks awesome. The northern type is my favorite steam locomotive. Thank you for posting.
No, thank you for watching!
What an incredible Locomotive!
Thank you Sir, for such a great presentation! Nice work!
Thanks!!
Just got the 614 version and it pulled my 7 K Line KCC K441521C Streamlined Heavyweight Passenger cars with ease. I added just for kicks the Lionel NYC ESE 4 car set and found the same results. Killer power. Well done by Lionel. My cover was also taped on as I think Lionel didn’t want it bouncing around.
Good thing the engine drive shaft didn't break. Nice looking too.
Pretty cool Eric & nice cat you have there as well 🙂🙂
Love the paintjob on this one, orange has been my favorite color for a long time.
Awesome!
wow amazing pulling power
Extraordinary !!! What an engine and what a layout !
Very nice train Eric
The hobo union called. They said that you keep forgetting the hobo camp.❤
Didn't you already say that on another video? lol
@@Ericstrains I may have.
That’s stupendous! Chessie was not impressed! LOL
Haha
I'm with you - the paint scheme is the BFIMO. Thanks for sharing.
Will also be interesting to compare the MTH to the Lionel passenger cars when they arrive.
Great point!
That thing is so beautiful. And the pull test was my favorite
Glad you liked it!
another nice loco man that thing was moving
I'm amazed at the pulling power. I wonder what brand of motors has Lionel been using lately?
What a gorgeous locomotive!! Like you said, the orange and silver colors pop! I look forward to when you get the matching passenger cars that go along with it and see the train in its entirety. The nighttime shots are absolutely amazing. Seeing all of the lights on the locomotive and passenger cars all lit up looks very cool. You get to see it in a whole new look. Great stuff Eric!
Thank you very much!
Very nice stuff Eric!
Thanks!
Gorgeous execution of color, detail, sound, and pulling power. Congrats to Lionel for what will probably be one of the most iconic locomotives they have ever produced. I would think that most purists would have bought this loco in one of its black liveried versions, so this unique fantasy item will most likely prove to be rare and much sought after in fifty or a hundred years hence.
This unusual Greenbriar is a spectacular blend of the model maker's art, and the fantasy niche of our hobby, resplendent in its exotic make believe paint scheme that just screams "toy train".
Thanks, Eric for another well done video. The pure joy you effused as you put this engine on the rails for the first time was truly heartwarming. Your enthusiasm for our hobby strikes a pure chord for all of us that love three rail O scale trains. See you at October York. ColoradoBear
Thanks!
You are the best Gen X Railfan.
Awesome engine, also love to see your kitty enjoy your diorama too!
What a powerfully attractive consist - absolutely gorgeous!
It really is!
Beautiful steam engine, love the colors, very colorful. Love steam engines in other colors besides just black. Great video
Wow 🎉🎉🎉 you topped your collection simply amazing Lionel steamer
🎉
The very best! My only issue is that they didn’t include a Hancock, or a Nathan 3 chime, the ladder being what the J3’s were delivered with.
Awesome locomotive!!
Note:
While today we mainly call 4-8-4's "Northern's" after the Northern Pacific which was the first railroad to operate 4-8-4's.
During the era these engines ran they were usually not named Northern's with most railroads having their own names for the wheel arrangement.
This ranged from the D&RGW and Santa Fe calling their 4-8-4's Mountains like their 4-8-2's to railroads like the NYC, SP, and C&O with names like "Niagara" "Golden State" and "Greenbrier" just to name a few.
Indeed
1 you can't go wrong with a buck 119!
2 that is a beautiful locomotive
Great video. Thats a really nice engine.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
The 3 diesels pulling the autoracks: no one is better then us
The greenbrier: hold me beer 🍺
That is a neat locomotive entender pretty cool in the paint job is really fantastic and very realistic
Glad you like it
I bought one as well, beautiful locomotive. My locomotive and tender came wrap in the clear plastic wrap not the lionel plastic wrap, I wonder if was manufactured in a different factory 🤔. Thanks for sharing
I do love your lighted coaches! You know just for fun, these could pull 30 coaches at 100mph on troop transport trains.
True
10:52 In 1991, N&W 1218 pulled a short mixed train from Cincinnati to Portsmouth, Ohio consisting of its auxiliary tender, a baggage car, a vista dome car, a hi-cube boxcar and 4 autorack cars
Common 1218 W
Extraordinary impressive locomotive the paint scheme is very unique ✨️✨️✨️✨️👍🏻
Glad you like it!
Beautiful C&O steam engine 🚂👍
It sure is!
Truly a gorgeous engine I love it!
Thanks!
That Greenbrier is absolutely stunning! I do appreciate how Lionel gives you the options of whistles because I don’t think the hooters fit the Greenbriers at all. That being said Lionel might finally produce a prototypical C&O Kanawha using MTH’s tooling, and I think the hooters would be perfect for that. I’d love it if they made a few different versions of 2716!
Enjoyed your video on 0 scale train
Glad you enjoyed it
Man running that passenger set with that steam engine. It’s just awesome looking that is totally cool and it’s awesome. How many cars it’ll. Pull!!!
I can't wait to see the new challenger.
Amazing video Eric!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow Beautiful steam engine Eric!!!
Thanks!
@@Ericstrains You're welcome!!
Now I kinda wish I pre-ordered one. They are stunning for sure. Not that I have any c&o passenger cars, nor a pile of money left over from the Challenger hahaha 😌
Eric, I would recommend you use an Ontario knife next time. They recently got bought out, and closed up their shop in NY, and they're moving business to Virginia.
I have numerous OKC knives in my collection. Good stuff.
That's the most powerful 4-8-4 in existence.. I'm getting one!!
Just got my preorder in and the dome came off scratched the paint on the hand rails but thankfully nothing broken going to get sliver paint to touch it up
Pretty train
19:09 612'z whistle!
Jeeeeze! Nearly 15 pounds?!
I have 1/16 scale RC Battle Tanks with metal wheels, tracks and chassis' that barely weigh that much!
3:12 I swear Lionel’s steamers are getting “smaller” every so often. This Greenbrier looks like a 1:68 scale model in this shot. I just took delivery of my USSF ES44AC from Legacy Station and it feels like a true 1:48 scale model. Even my weathered Commodore Vanderbilt 777 (6-18067) feels like a true 1:48 scale steamer.
They're not getting smaller at all.
@@EricstrainsI figured it out. I recently took delivery of a Marklin 85509 Museum Prussian T3 in 1-Gauge and I haven’t ran 1-Gauge in a while, so when I took the engine out of its box, I realized how larger 1-Gauge was to O-Scale. I had to place it next to my Lionel 777 Commodore Vanderbilt to understand how larger things have gotten. 🤣
Layout Kitty #1 is definitely a handful
Yes!
I love the chessie system
Beautiful Mr Eric of Eric trains you so beautiful videos I have almost done making payments only a few left an I bring it home I love you videos an you have a awesome layout GOD bless you an your family an chessi
Very sharp!!
Nice haircut brah! 🚂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥✊
Thanks!
Great video! Is that buck knife made from volarian steel? I have just received my Lionel 612 Greenbrier and I see that there was just a piece of clear plastic wrapping on the engine and tender, just like your engine, not the regular Lionel wrapping.
Probably make in a different factory. That's why the box was a bit different than usual as well.
I think I like it better without the smoke deflectors.
Hey Eric! Are you going to review the lionel Class-A?
This thing said
“Oh 3 diesels to pull this train, watch this.”
Yep!
Boy, some do, and some don't. I could never afford one of those Lionel engines.
This is their top of the line stuff. They make plenty of more affordable stuff as well.
Nice engine but the paint scheme is not my cup of tea. Hey Eric, I noticed a couple of exposed phillips head screws on the top of the smoke box, right next to the marker lights. Seems weird Lionel would leave these exposed like that.
thanks
Sweet 👍👍
Thanks 👍
Hi Eric! I'm Josh and I'm using my mom's account. I noticed that your orange BNSF auto-carriers match the Greenbrier! Maybe there are unlettered ones with the orange paint available? Then you could letter those to be C&O! Anyways I'm a HO scale modeler and I got an old U36b Bicentennial diesel that was said to never run working again and I was wondering if you have a Bicentennial. Thanks. Josh
Yes I do!
11:02 even in model form, a single steam locomotive has the power of three diesels
Under less light, the MTH yellow stripe cars match this orange stripe loco a bit better
Yep. Steam didn't lose the diesel because of a lack of power, it lost simply because diesel was cheaper to operate and more modular.
Can you kinda make a video showing 1 ES44 pulling the 20 auto racks then go up to 3 ES44’s
Well, 1 ES44 simply won't pull all those cars. The wheels on the engine just spin.
I did some research on the real life 612 while it was a 4-8-4 in real life it was classified as a j-3a greenbrier i don’t say this to be nitpicey or anything i just wanted to point out a slight mistake that was made
cool
gotta add to the fleet cnr 6060 and cpr 2816 and 2860
can you drive this train using whistle 2
Awesome engine Eric. How’s Chessie doing?
He's great...6 years old now.