I think they dont want the model to be affected by the environment too much or not at all. Probably to give the anime look without the realism of environment bouncing light to the model
sometimes it's fine but sometimes it's REALLY not and wayyyyy too overexposed and it really takes away from what would otherwise be a great-looking pv :(
@@eve-chanbushido6953 exactly - in common world domination i think mega39s' shaders work great since it's such a vivid pv but in songs like meltdown where the environment is darker and has more nuanced light sources the shaders just end up looking lazy or poor. it's really disappointing :(
I like playing project mirai. I played project diva on playstation 4 at my friends house and I can't wait for project diva mega mix to come out on the Nintendo switch.
Seeing this made me finally realize what makes me so uncomfortable with MegaMix's shading choices, and it's not the fact that it's cell-shading on the models. It's the fact that it's poorly-done cell-shading, and is ONLY applied to the character models. NOTHING ELSE is stylized to match the cell-shading choice, and the cell-shading uses damn-near-white for highlights, and can't handle things with a white base color--So it all looks washed-out, and the stuff that's pure white to begin with practically GLOWS in most lighting.
I think the fact that Miku's glowing isn't that much of a problem this time, since it fits with the surreal atmosphere of the pv. I still prefer Future Tone, though
Yea , i actually dont mind the shader. I think it just gives more of a plastic robot/ virual thingy? Which is what vocaloids are , so i actually dong mind it lmao
Was playing this at a friends house and she’s so white that she looks like she doesn’t have a nose at some points and me and my friend kept making fun of it
tbh usually i prefer future’s shading but for this specific mv i think the neon look of megamix works really well, it fits the whole aesthetic of the song really well imo. mirai is obviously superior tho 👌👌
I feel like it's important to note that for a lot of songs (not all, but for a lot of them), the toon shader looks fine. It doesn't look bad particularly. But when you compare it to a more realistic shader it doesn't look as good.
anyone else feel like the tone of the original music video fits way waaaay better than project diva's mv? It felt like it had a lot of meaning and complemented the lyrics. Project Diva's doesn't make me feel anything
Interesting fact: The original MV was actually featured in Project Mirai 2 (that one Japan-only iteration of Project Mirai that was released before DX), and it was even compatible with the 3D functionality of the 3DS. That was before Sega replaced it with a Nendoroid-style real-time rendered animation for Project Mirai DX, and then adapted to Project DIVA Arcade Future Tone, which allowed the song to be featured in both Future Tone and Mega Mix, and that's pretty much where we are now with this song
You can see some footage of this animation captured through Mirai 2 right here: ua-cam.com/video/lffmB39p8FQ/v-deo.html Also, I just noticed- It surprisingly (at least to me) looks considerably different than the one from PinocchioP's official YT channel, the MV was uploaded there in Jan 10th 2014, _after_ the release of Mirai 2, which was in Nov 28th 2013, it feels like either the one from Mirai 2 one is the prototype/original version of the video or the one from the official YT channel is the main/higher quality version of the video - [Extra addition] There is also this cool upload of the animation with the 3D layers that you can see through UA-cam's toggleable stereoscopic 3D output (at least on the desktop version): ua-cam.com/video/w8hbil84djc/v-deo.html
@@noni6903 just reminding u that ppl can have opinions and it's okay if u don't agree but don't go out of ur way to comment something bad about their opinion bc u don't like it.
I honestly love the Future Tone style, it's just so unique, and i think the megamix version is not bad. It's just like everyone says, the lighting and shadows, it looks so unnatural and i now they wanted to give it an anime style or something like that, but idk i wish they could fix that problem (even though it's been two years???)
Future Tone: Great quality and has the best textures in my opinion Mega 39: Perfect for the vivid stages and the module looks better with the shade tooner. Mirai DX: It's a lil baby Miku, what more could you want?
I like all of em :D but future tone looks thr best tbh and it has toonshader, mega mix is also good but miku is LIGHTING UP LIKE THE SUN--- so if you combined future tone and mega mix you would get an epic new thing
Future Tone : Ok i take isnt that bad at all Megamix: i Love It The Brightness works this time Mirai:Just Look at That. THE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS . SEGA WHERE IS IT. AND ITS SO FRICKIN CUTEEEE
Future Tone: First twin sister MegaMix: Second twin sister which looks almost like first but with small difference Mirai DX: Their third cute lil' sister which isn't twin but wants to be
Everybody think megamix looks to bright but itcould have looked like project diva future tone but instead it was given a coulerful anime theme that i think is adorable and coulerful so megamix is definitely my favourite
One looks realistic (Future Tone), one is cel-shaded (Mega39s or MegaMix) and one's a chibi. (Project Mirai DX). But they're all singing Common World (ありふぃれたせかいせいふく)
比較 Comparison ・左上 影の演出があってリアリティ ・Upper left Reality with shadow ・右上 色使いが綺麗 ・Right Color use is beautiful ・下 色んなシーンで可愛いとこがある ・Below There are cute things in various scenes
I honestly prefer Megamix’s lighting, and project Mirai DX’s Miku, the lighting makes the game look more simple, and the Miku model in DX is just cute.
I still adore the chibi look Mirai has. As for future tone and megamix, they both have their own appeal. I can see how people prefer the more realistic look future tone has because of its texture and shading but i personally always loved how cell shading looked and i love how it came out on miku.
Well, in FT the models lool like plastic dolls and they tried to fix that with a toon shader... It's good sometimes and bad others but at least it's better than the one FT has because that is too darker like FT. Megamix shader at least gives that anime vibes, and gives the shading *almost* when it's needed
In megamix, I can't even see her mouth unless it's moving...I think thats my main complaint. But then again, the toon shader seems to me more commonly used on the switch anyways
Yeah, that was a lie. Someone turned off the toon shader (hacked the game) the day the Japanese version released and the future tone shader was underneath
With toonshader you lose all the details and the modules constantly look like they’re glowing... even though the hair looks really cool with it, I just wish there was an option to turn it off
I understand why they used toon shaders, which is to make sure it has the best performance, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't wish they kept the shaders from future tone, at least for certain songs that require more ambient lighting.
I played this song on the demo for the switch ver. and tbh even if this video is awesome, it's waaaay prettier when you play it, and some of you are saying she glows, but she actually doesn't if you watch the video at full quality, plus I personally think that the toon shader suits this song better
Future Tone is definitely the best one. Idk I might be biased because it's the only one I got a perfect on. But it's also the only one of these three games I own ;-;
this may sound stupid but I actually prefer the 3ds's version. it just has it's own charm to it. or it might because I've played this song in the mega mix demo OR I'm salty that I cant get it on future tone yet because I'm broke
I really don't like the toon shaders in mega 39's, because it makes the character really NOT fit with the background at all, but in future tone the shading looks perfectly fine. Maybe 39's is like that because it's on/for the switch? It would make sense, because the switch isn't a very powerful console for that sort of thing-- idk, let me know what y'all think in the replies
Honestly I prefer Megamix. The brightness just works really well for the PV, all of those shadows don't really work for me and it just kind of looks off.
![Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Future Tone - [PV] "Break It, Break It!" (Romaji/English Subs)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fe-39tzdbKY/mqdefault.jpg)
![Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Future Tone - [PV] "Break It, Break It!" (Romaji/English Subs)](/img/tr.png)
![1925 - Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA PV Comparison [Mirai DX, Future Tone, MegaMix]](/img/n.gif)
in megamix it looks like she is glowing...she *R A D I A T I N G*
Yeah, but I'm not sure if I like the way it looks for the song.
G L O W
maybe its a reference to the hologram concerts
Im pretty sure japan is done radiating.
@@sonikkukarafuto3424 nah its just the switch not being able to handle as much so the lighting's kinda funky lol
1:40 chibi miku has to walk a little faster to keep up😂😂
lol
Lmaooooo
I will live!
0:44 same here, she's running faster with her lil tiny leggies ;v;
bless her
These may all be different, but that doesn’t change the fact this song is a *BOP*
Pinocchio-P has a lot of bangers, y'know?
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yeah! Pinocchio-P is awesome
My main problem with MegaMix is that there’s no ambient lighting. Shes so bright and the lighting/colours aren’t adjusted to the environment she’s in
I think they dont want the model to be affected by the environment too much or not at all. Probably to give the anime look without the realism of environment bouncing light to the model
sometimes it's fine but sometimes it's REALLY not and wayyyyy too overexposed and it really takes away from what would otherwise be a great-looking pv :(
@@eve-chanbushido6953 exactly - in common world domination i think mega39s' shaders work great since it's such a vivid pv but in songs like meltdown where the environment is darker and has more nuanced light sources the shaders just end up looking lazy or poor. it's really disappointing :(
Apparently, without the toon shader, the model is exactly the same as the future tone model
Hikigaya Hachiman and the lighting is probably also easier on the switch’s weaker hardware
This is one of these songs that use Miku's normal to low-ish range, which I really enjoy because it sounds so unique and different.
it uses an append- the Dark append to be specific
@@cherryzombiezz It sounds really good! also thanks for the correction, I didn't know that.
It sounds calmer almost like she’s murmuring it. Very earthy. I like
I think that's because it uses the dark voicebank
Let's appreciate how expressive the faces in Project Mirai are
Her eyes are so dead in mirai
I always like the bit at 3:02
The mirai one is so damn cute
I agree I love the chibi models of Mirai-
I like playing project mirai. I played project diva on playstation 4 at my friends house and I can't wait for project diva mega mix to come out on the Nintendo switch.
I wonder if there will be another chibi vocaloid game ever
I don't know
@@alanbrito141 I don't think so, but it would be great tbh
Seeing this made me finally realize what makes me so uncomfortable with MegaMix's shading choices, and it's not the fact that it's cell-shading on the models. It's the fact that it's poorly-done cell-shading, and is ONLY applied to the character models. NOTHING ELSE is stylized to match the cell-shading choice, and the cell-shading uses damn-near-white for highlights, and can't handle things with a white base color--So it all looks washed-out, and the stuff that's pure white to begin with practically GLOWS in most lighting.
it’s like botw’s shading but really bad
I swear the Megamix’s visuals makes them all look like a damn glow stick
Project Diva Mega 39s: Too bight, looks good otherwise.
Project Diva Future Tone: Shading looks good. Looks nice.
Project Mirai: *Adorable. Just adorable.*
Dar the Star I think you meant bright
I don’t like Mira I that much, idk why. I just d o n t
Lois The Gacha Freak the modules? They remind me of mikudayos haha
Viex yeah like the default of Miku looks like a Mikudayo mixed with a Hachune Miku (yes Hachune Mikus exist)
Lois The Gacha Freak Yea true, but yea I did know hachune miku exist lol
I think the fact that Miku's glowing isn't that much of a problem this time, since it fits with the surreal atmosphere of the pv. I still prefer Future Tone, though
ok i actually like the megamix one for this
Same
Yea , i actually dont mind the shader. I think it just gives more of a plastic robot/ virual thingy? Which is what vocaloids are , so i actually dong mind it lmao
it looks really out of place sometimes. like in the disappearance of hatsune miku and sadistic music factory
The background already flat looking, so the megamix shading kinda works here, if only it wasnt that bright
*I like the Mirai Version the most*
I prefer Future Tone's shading over MegaMix's one. In MegaMix, she's so white, she's a holy light.
I agree THANK you
Was playing this at a friends house and she’s so white that she looks like she doesn’t have a nose at some points and me and my friend kept making fun of it
Well it's nintendo swwitch
People make fun of mega mix toon shaders that's it even tho they don't have Mega mix I like the game and I have it
Ohhhhh nice
Ft and mega39s: 😐
Mirai: ☺
Mega39s ☺
Mirai 😍😍😍
More like
Ft and Megamix: 😐
Mirai DX: 😆
Ps4: s h a d i n g
DX: *that skull looks like a ball*
Switch: ok it looks good in the chorus part we can all agree on that
3DS: ...
Miku's eyes kinda looks like Luka's eyes in Future Tone and Megamix.
alex smith I think it’s because she’s having a relaxed expression in this song in particular
@@minhsongdinh2144 Yeah that could be it.
alex smith just in this model
@@alexsmith6347 It's the thick blue eyelashes combined with the relaxed expression.
@@drjoverlord Also, did anyone else notice Miku's head move a little in the Mirai version and kept it still in the DIVA version?
1:31 Project Mirai definitely the best one
tbh usually i prefer future’s shading but for this specific mv i think the neon look of megamix works really well, it fits the whole aesthetic of the song really well imo. mirai is obviously superior tho 👌👌
0:45 Mirai her little legs running
Switchさいこー！！！！！！！！この彩度クソ高背景と空間がSwitchのモデルと合っててめっちゃ好き
アニメみたい
I love this song so much! Please keep uploading these ;u;
2:25 ITS SO CUTE THE MIRAI MIKU
I love the chibi one
Switchは単体で見るとめちゃくちゃ可愛く見える。比較すると白っぽいのが目立つけど、比較しなければそんなことない気がする。
I feel like it's important to note that for a lot of songs (not all, but for a lot of them), the toon shader looks fine. It doesn't look bad particularly. But when you compare it to a more realistic shader it doesn't look as good.
anyone else feel like the tone of the original music video fits way waaaay better than project diva's mv? It felt like it had a lot of meaning and complemented the lyrics. Project Diva's doesn't make me feel anything
A lot of them seem awkward to me, honestly.
Interesting fact: The original MV was actually featured in Project Mirai 2 (that one Japan-only iteration of Project Mirai that was released before DX), and it was even compatible with the 3D functionality of the 3DS. That was before Sega replaced it with a Nendoroid-style real-time rendered animation for Project Mirai DX, and then adapted to Project DIVA Arcade Future Tone, which allowed the song to be featured in both Future Tone and Mega Mix, and that's pretty much where we are now with this song
You can see some footage of this animation captured through Mirai 2 right here:
ua-cam.com/video/lffmB39p8FQ/v-deo.html
Also, I just noticed-
It surprisingly (at least to me) looks considerably different than the one from PinocchioP's official YT channel, the MV was uploaded there in Jan 10th 2014, _after_ the release of Mirai 2, which was in Nov 28th 2013, it feels like either the one from Mirai 2 one is the prototype/original version of the video or the one from the official YT channel is the main/higher quality version of the video
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[Extra addition] There is also this cool upload of the animation with the 3D layers that you can see through UA-cam's toggleable stereoscopic 3D output (at least on the desktop version):
ua-cam.com/video/w8hbil84djc/v-deo.html
3DSが最強
I feel like for brighter pvs the toon shaders really work ! It's just for darker pvs that it starts to look weird.
The toon shader looks disgusting. Stop lying.
@@noni6903 just reminding u that ppl can have opinions and it's okay if u don't agree but don't go out of ur way to comment something bad about their opinion bc u don't like it.
I honestly love the Future Tone style, it's just so unique, and i think the megamix version is not bad. It's just like everyone says, the lighting and shadows, it looks so unnatural and i now they wanted to give it an anime style or something like that, but idk i wish they could fix that problem (even though it's been two years???)
I think mega39's look quite good here, the background has a lot of flat colours so the more matte look suits it a bit better for this song
Kind of off topic but I absolutely adore the module for this song
I love the facial expressions in the Mirai PV. Like the >.< 2:32 and @.@ 3:00.
Okay but can we talk about this module? her eyelashes are super cute!!
the toon shader actually fits this pv quite well imo
Makes sense why they added this song in the demo of MegaMix....
*it's one of the very few one's that looks good.*
💖
it's so cute in megamix!! i love it!!!!
I kinda like megamix the best because the shading actually goes pretty well and she doesn’t look so depressed
Future Tone: Great quality and has the best textures in my opinion
Mega 39: Perfect for the vivid stages and the module looks better with the shade tooner.
Mirai DX: It's a lil baby Miku, what more could you want?
3DS isn't so powerful
Let's be honest, we're all here for Chibi Miku / Mikudayo.
I A no its not
@@yanfeimain9135 It may not be Mikudayo, but Mikudayo is way better than Chibi Miku
You guys happy now
Azusako But chibi miku is better for sexualization. That's the main purpose of Love live and Bang dream.
2:24 I like to switch between the models to look funny
You really gotta respect the graphics that the 3ds could actually pull off (like in mirai), like it actually looks comparable in a way to future tone
one of the few where the megamix lighting looks better imo
The robots fit so well with chibi Miku 😍
I like all of em :D but future tone looks thr best tbh and it has toonshader, mega mix is also good but miku is LIGHTING UP LIKE THE SUN--- so if you combined future tone and mega mix you would get an epic new thing
Future Tone : Ok i take isnt that bad at all
Megamix: i Love It The Brightness works this time
Mirai:Just Look at That. THE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS . SEGA WHERE IS IT. AND ITS SO FRICKIN CUTEEEE
You gotta love how little they held back on Mirai. System limitations? Never heard of her. They shot for the moon regardless
Damn, I must have the 3ds even I have play it on emulator, but still the feels playing in 3ds will be epic! I got both ps4 and switch version tho
its mor epic playing or seeing the mirai mv with the 3D of the 3ds active
I like the version the version of Project Mirai DX.
I actually like megamix's style for this pv
Megamix looks really cute on this song! Sometimes it doesn’t go nice unless it’s the right song. Like this song and Lots Of Laugh!
I saw you in the ad and I accidentally walked through it, but I found it =D
i got into vocaloid from mirai Dx and looking at it now compared to the other games... Chile...
この曲にはアニメ調で影の濃淡が少ないSwitchが合ってていいですね〜好みだけど
Looove this song
Mirai is the best BECAUSE SHE DOESNT MOVE SO WEIRDLY
1:44 HUGE difference
Toon shader works well for this song, at least.
Future Tone: First twin sister
MegaMix: Second twin sister which looks almost like first but with small difference
Mirai DX: Their third cute lil' sister which isn't twin but wants to be
MiRaI oBvIoUsLy LoOkS tHe NiCeSt
1:16 did she just do the Club Penguin dance??!!!
I NEVRE NOTICED WEDFGH
Ah yes, A.S.S my favorite song.
I own all 3 of these games, with mirai being my introduction to diva. But the loading tines. Ooooh boy. Still better then f
Everybody think megamix looks to bright but itcould have looked like project diva future tone but instead it was given a coulerful anime theme that i think is adorable and coulerful so megamix is definitely my favourite
La versión de MegaMix me recuerda mucho al PV original de PinocchioP
One looks realistic (Future Tone), one is cel-shaded (Mega39s or MegaMix) and one's a chibi. (Project Mirai DX). But they're all singing Common World (ありふぃれたせかいせいふく)
下可愛すぎか
Future tone : cool graphics
MegaMix 39 : glowy skin and hair
Project mirai : chibi miku
Milena Kupis DT and FT's model is too uglier than Other models.
比較
Comparison
・左上
影の演出があってリアリティ
・Upper left
Reality with shadow
・右上
色使いが綺麗
・Right
Color use is beautiful
・下
色んなシーンで可愛いとこがある
・Below
There are cute things in various scenes
I vote Mirai DX because it’s cute and more expressive
I'm surprised with how good the Mirai PV looks considering its on the 3DS.
Mirai is one of the best looking 3DS games, they really took advantage of the chibi nendroid style
Yes, I fancy Project Mirai's PV
the 3ds version is so cute
It's weird, I put the lyrics through google translate and it just came back as, "DAB DAB DAB" over and over again.
Ironically how the actually dabs in the PV...
I honestly prefer Megamix’s lighting, and project Mirai DX’s Miku, the lighting makes the game look more simple, and the Miku model in DX is just cute.
I still adore the chibi look Mirai has.
As for future tone and megamix, they both have their own appeal. I can see how people prefer the more realistic look future tone has because of its texture and shading but i personally always loved how cell shading looked and i love how it came out on miku.
Well, in FT the models lool like plastic dolls and they tried to fix that with a toon shader... It's good sometimes and bad others but at least it's better than the one FT has because that is too darker like FT. Megamix shader at least gives that anime vibes, and gives the shading *almost* when it's needed
Mirai's is my favorite
its just so CUTE
The thing about mirai is that Miku fits perfectly with aimaina and doushite-chan when they dance together
In megamix, I can't even see her mouth unless it's moving...I think thats my main complaint. But then again, the toon shader seems to me more commonly used on the switch anyways
Yeah, that was a lie. Someone turned off the toon shader (hacked the game) the day the Japanese version released and the future tone shader was underneath
@@noni6903 wait rlly?
@@sta._rina yep ua-cam.com/video/feK9mpwDdts/v-deo.html
With toonshader you lose all the details and the modules constantly look like they’re glowing... even though the hair looks really cool with it, I just wish there was an option to turn it off
the toon shader makes it look like Miku is glowing
I understand why they used toon shaders, which is to make sure it has the best performance, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't wish they kept the shaders from future tone, at least for certain songs that require more ambient lighting.
2:08 minecraft soupside
I played this song on the demo for the switch ver. and tbh even if this video is awesome, it's waaaay prettier when you play it, and some of you are saying she glows, but she actually doesn't if you watch the video at full quality, plus I personally think that the toon shader suits this song better
I have the full game and no. It does not look any better when you play it.
I think this is one of the pvs that MegaMix's toon shaders really improves. Miku was far too shadowy in some parts of the Future Tone version
i completely forgot for a moment that white diamond takes miku's place in megamix lmao shes got a brighter future than i do
this is one of those that kinda works with toonshader. I don't think it's as bad as most people say it is but I think it could be better
Future Tone is definitely the best one. Idk I might be biased because it's the only one I got a perfect on. But it's also the only one of these three games I own ;-;
Has anyone else realized that the bottom miku’s hair doesn’t move a lot like the other miku’s?
The backgrounds are much more complicated in future tine and Mega mix 39 due to the low screen res of the 3ds and its nature less powerful as a whole.
I think the toon shader added a cartoony style in this song in mega mix... I actually love how it looks with toon shader
Subtitles: [Music] [Applause]
I really like MM39 now.
Maybe the 3ds version is not the best one, but watching it with 3d is stunning!
this may sound stupid but I actually prefer the 3ds's version. it just has it's own charm to it. or it might because I've played this song in the mega mix demo OR I'm salty that I cant get it on future tone yet because I'm broke
I really don't like the toon shaders in mega 39's, because it makes the character really NOT fit with the background at all, but in future tone the shading looks perfectly fine. Maybe 39's is like that because it's on/for the switch? It would make sense, because the switch isn't a very powerful console for that sort of thing-- idk, let me know what y'all think in the replies
I think Mega39's just because of that vibrant tone. Mirai fits the motion better, as the original.
Honestly I prefer Megamix. The brightness just works really well for the PV, all of those shadows don't really work for me and it just kind of looks off.
I just want the F PVs back the toon shaders would look so good on the F Models
in my personal opinion this pv looks much better with the toon shader (megamix shader/shader for certain ft songs)
Megamix is nice, but some parts feel, off. Like someone cranked the brightness up