Checking in 2yrs after this review and the watch is now on sale for 99 USD. I purchased while I decide if I want to make a big Garmin purchase in the future.
I quite like the Coros Pace 2 for running and a while back, I decided that the Pace 2 on one wrist and the Apple Watch on the other was the ideal combination for me and great value for the combined price. The Pace 2 meets all my running needs and Apple Watch is good for music, credit card payments, urgent phone calls etc. all without having to carry your phone. Garmin or Polar watches with all of the combined features of Coros + Apple actually cost more and are not as well integrated with the Apple ecosystem (like controlling Apple TV, taking phone calls without the phone or earbuds etc), so I don’t mind wearing two watches especially since the Pace 2 is so light that it hardly feels like wearing anything.
Difference in barometric altimeter could be explained by the fact that they really on small holes in the watch case to let pressure onto the sensor. Over time dirt can build up and negatively effect performance. The Rival is new while the Polar has been your daily driver and could have holes partially clogged.
Ko, when you take this watch through the water in the steeple pit it'll calculate how far you swam. So it's worth every dollar. Great video as always Ko! BTW, I wore this watch and a Garmin this past weekend in a tri race and the Wahoo did struggle a good bit. 😬
They'll probably add sleep tracking and recovery tracking in a future update. However, I currently have a Garmin fenix 6 and I don't get any value out of either of these features. I know if I slept poorly or if I haven't recovered enough for a hard session without any tech. The fenix is especially annoying about this too, I get several popups a day to tell me how I'm recovering. Tech support tells me it's a feature and not a bug. Between this and a handful of other issues, I'm really hoping that Wahoo can provide some solid competition for Garmin and the Rival is certainly a nice looking watch.
Track mode is so nice to have (on my Coros Pace 2) on my track speed work days. Does the Wahoo allow seamlessly transitioning from road to track and back in a single workout? The Pace 2 doesn’t, so I just end up excluding the warm up and cool down runs to and back from the track.
Hello @kofuzi, would you recommend buying it in late 2022? In this price range there are a few watches that are on the same level in terms of accuracy and stuff... I just dont know if I should get it. I got to admit - I love the white/ceramic version - it looks awesome on hand.
@@kofuzi one other thing that crossed my mind, make sure you've set up your run specific FTP in TrainingPeaks. That won't be needed for the general power fields, but I think the structured workouts are specifically looking for running FTP when you do it based on %
No civilian GPS watch, phone or other unit will be accurate. The confidence interval is about 4 metres hence the sometimes the track takes you off into the fields etc. I was once told that this is to stop unfriendly folk using the civilian system to help targeting homemade cruise missiles - I have my doubts. Anyway anything about right by a tiny device I wear on my wrist gets my vote.
Mike, same question again and again: what's the point of the track mode? Don't you know exactly how much you run on a track when you do reps? The track mode is only there to please your eyes after the fact with nice lines. As a matter of fact, it is 100% useless during the workout. It brings no added value. I am doing track workouts multiple times a week. I have a Coros. I have the track mode. I tried it and frankly it is a total gimmick. Not to say that you also have a Stryd, which if properly calibrated on a track, will give you the exact distance you run.
Might it be useful if you're doing a workout but for whatever reason (super busy track maybe??) you can't use lane 1? Who knows if this was the intent by either Coros or Wahoo, but let's say you're doing a tempo in lane 8, track mode would/could give you the actual distance, rather than you having to do whatever math is necessary to figure out the distance actually covered when running X laps in lane 8. Again, totally guessing here.
if you are looking at your pace on the watch, and you do not have a track mode, your pace will be wrong. if you don't think there's value in track mode because you're on a track and you know how far you ran, then I think the argument you should be making is that you don't even need to have the watch at all, not that it is a gimmick.
@@kofuzi Are you sure about the pace being wrong? This is a valid point, but I am not sure at all that the track mode changes the way the pace is calculated and not sure at all it makes it more accurate. The GPS signal is still the same, right? Ultimately, you're right on a track a stop watch is sufficient. Having a watch allows you to record the activity though.
@@ellemarie9726 yep, if you run in lane 8 then I get the point. I have never done a workout on any other lane than lane 1. The question is: if you run to the track to warmup and use the track profile even when you're not on the track in order to record a single activity, which lane do you chose in the first place?
For those looking to buy for its heart rate measurement features - steer clear of the far! I have not seen such bad indications, if they appear at all! The workmanship of the watch is cheesy. Value for money - terrible!
Checking in 2yrs after this review and the watch is now on sale for 99 USD. I purchased while I decide if I want to make a big Garmin purchase in the future.
I've had my eye on the Coros Pace 2, but now I want to get a look at this one too - love the long GPS life on this one!
Coros pace 2 is very nice
Love my pace 2
I quite like the Coros Pace 2 for running and a while back, I decided that the Pace 2 on one wrist and the Apple Watch on the other was the ideal combination for me and great value for the combined price. The Pace 2 meets all my running needs and Apple Watch is good for music, credit card payments, urgent phone calls etc. all without having to carry your phone. Garmin or Polar watches with all of the combined features of Coros + Apple actually cost more and are not as well integrated with the Apple ecosystem (like controlling Apple TV, taking phone calls without the phone or earbuds etc), so I don’t mind wearing two watches especially since the Pace 2 is so light that it hardly feels like wearing anything.
Difference in barometric altimeter could be explained by the fact that they really on small holes in the watch case to let pressure onto the sensor. Over time dirt can build up and negatively effect performance. The Rival is new while the Polar has been your daily driver and could have holes partially clogged.
I had not thought of that
Ko, when you take this watch through the water in the steeple pit it'll calculate how far you swam. So it's worth every dollar. Great video as always Ko! BTW, I wore this watch and a Garmin this past weekend in a tri race and the Wahoo did struggle a good bit. 😬
hmmm. that's a bummer. I was planning on using this during my tri.
@@kofuzi - Might work perfectly for you. I don't know how you feel about wearing two watches. 🤷♂️
Is there any possibility of upload hiking mode into watch?
Does watch suit for any hiking workouts?
They'll probably add sleep tracking and recovery tracking in a future update. However, I currently have a Garmin fenix 6 and I don't get any value out of either of these features. I know if I slept poorly or if I haven't recovered enough for a hard session without any tech. The fenix is especially annoying about this too, I get several popups a day to tell me how I'm recovering. Tech support tells me it's a feature and not a bug. Between this and a handful of other issues, I'm really hoping that Wahoo can provide some solid competition for Garmin and the Rival is certainly a nice looking watch.
I have to take my Garmin off at night and put my FitBit on because Garmin sleep tracking is really bad.
Track mode is so nice to have (on my Coros Pace 2) on my track speed work days. Does the Wahoo allow seamlessly transitioning from road to track and back in a single workout? The Pace 2 doesn’t, so I just end up excluding the warm up and cool down runs to and back from the track.
Hello @kofuzi, would you recommend buying it in late 2022? In this price range there are a few watches that are on the same level in terms of accuracy and stuff... I just dont know if I should get it. I got to admit - I love the white/ceramic version - it looks awesome on hand.
I don’t know what pricing is like for it these days, but I think it may be best suited for multi-sport athletes who are deep in the Wahoo ecosystem
What about strava live segments?
goodluck on your first triathlon
Stryd Power does work, I always have power displayed on it during my runs. You just have to pair it as a power meter in the sensors section
The thing that is missing is footpod support so you can't use it for pace/distance.
ah, thanks for the tip
@@kofuzi one other thing that crossed my mind, make sure you've set up your run specific FTP in TrainingPeaks. That won't be needed for the general power fields, but I think the structured workouts are specifically looking for running FTP when you do it based on %
What are you using to overlay multiple runs together?
No civilian GPS watch, phone or other unit will be accurate. The confidence interval is about 4 metres hence the sometimes the track takes you off into the fields etc. I was once told that this is to stop unfriendly folk using the civilian system to help targeting homemade cruise missiles - I have my doubts. Anyway anything about right by a tiny device I wear on my wrist gets my vote.
as long as it's about right (or about wrong) consistently, I'm happy.
Exited!
Third. Podium finisher !
Fugly Fenix clone, great vid as always dude🤘🏽
Mike, same question again and again: what's the point of the track mode? Don't you know exactly how much you run on a track when you do reps? The track mode is only there to please your eyes after the fact with nice lines. As a matter of fact, it is 100% useless during the workout. It brings no added value. I am doing track workouts multiple times a week. I have a Coros. I have the track mode. I tried it and frankly it is a total gimmick. Not to say that you also have a Stryd, which if properly calibrated on a track, will give you the exact distance you run.
Might it be useful if you're doing a workout but for whatever reason (super busy track maybe??) you can't use lane 1? Who knows if this was the intent by either Coros or Wahoo, but let's say you're doing a tempo in lane 8, track mode would/could give you the actual distance, rather than you having to do whatever math is necessary to figure out the distance actually covered when running X laps in lane 8. Again, totally guessing here.
if you are looking at your pace on the watch, and you do not have a track mode, your pace will be wrong. if you don't think there's value in track mode because you're on a track and you know how far you ran, then I think the argument you should be making is that you don't even need to have the watch at all, not that it is a gimmick.
@@kofuzi Are you sure about the pace being wrong? This is a valid point, but I am not sure at all that the track mode changes the way the pace is calculated and not sure at all it makes it more accurate. The GPS signal is still the same, right? Ultimately, you're right on a track a stop watch is sufficient. Having a watch allows you to record the activity though.
@@ellemarie9726 yep, if you run in lane 8 then I get the point. I have never done a workout on any other lane than lane 1. The question is: if you run to the track to warmup and use the track profile even when you're not on the track in order to record a single activity, which lane do you chose in the first place?
Go get it at your meet, Ko!
For those looking to buy for its heart rate measurement features - steer clear of the far! I have not seen such bad indications, if they appear at all! The workmanship of the watch is cheesy. Value for money - terrible!
I use an external HR monitor. I don’t know if it’s the wrist position or my skin tone.
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