A Brutal Loss for OnlyFangs...

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  • @TheBangBangg
    @TheBangBangg 11 місяців тому +129

    I think they should level normally and learn the basics of the game instead of power leveling to die again at high levels.

    • @neozakk_
      @neozakk_ 11 місяців тому +22

      @@SirCharlzTVif you call being given a bunch of gear, bags, enchants, periodically being mob tagged by Fangsly, etc. “leveling normally”… then sure they did that the first time. BUT-
      Neither of them are good at or claim to be good at WoW and that’s the real problem. They need to learn that how they’re currently playing the game is a complete handicap on themselves. And I don’t want either of them to die over and over. I want them both to get to 60 so they can raid and prove to themselves they can complete one of the harder gaming challenges of all time.

    • @neozakk_
      @neozakk_ 11 місяців тому +8

      @@SirCharlzTVdid you… did you even read what I typed out? I’m on their side dude. I very clearly stated they aren’t good at the game and don’t claim to be good at the game.
      But THEY BOTH WANT to be good at the game and they’re failing at doing that. And yes, getting to level 60 in classic WoW without dying is definitely a difficult task. The game was always designed to punish you over and over on your journey while you respawned and learned from your mistakes. The entire thing is an anomaly.

    • @fritzschnitzmueller3768
      @fritzschnitzmueller3768 11 місяців тому +3

      @@SirCharlzTV He's just stating his opinion, why is he over invested?

    • @neozakk_
      @neozakk_ 11 місяців тому +4

      @@fritzschnitzmueller3768who knows man..? I give up with people on the internet though.
      Thanks for not hopping down my throat at semantics and hope you have a good day. 👊🏻

    • @lukeguest300
      @lukeguest300 11 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@neozakk_I agree, they are never going to improve at HC playing the way they are. Soda said it himself last time Mizz died... he essentially made the same mistake again by going into a cave and she followed him.
      The game mode is not difficult if you play it safely, the 'hard' part is not loosing focus during the grind.
      Which he did by getting distracted with the 60 death before...

  • @timxiix3864
    @timxiix3864 11 місяців тому +49

    the most crazy thing to me is: miz just died to a cave quest, and 2 days later he runs into the next cave and dies.

    • @Fuchsfeuer
      @Fuchsfeuer 11 місяців тому +12

      If you don't learn from your mistakes, you're forced to repeat them

    • @drangus8818
      @drangus8818 11 місяців тому +5

      I have a feeling he's avoiding caves from now on. As he should. Because he doesn't have the wow sense for it yet. Learning on hardcore is not the easiest lol

  • @Avraker
    @Avraker 11 місяців тому +60

    It's on both of them for running. That was not even dangerous with over 1k mana. Sad tho!

    • @chuggynation8275
      @chuggynation8275 11 місяців тому

      She should have never lvld with that idiot he straight up does this on purpose for content its cringe

    • @v1eTsOuLx
      @v1eTsOuLx 11 місяців тому +6

      @@ziro6837 She had LOS to know if the runaway pulled more mobs or not. She easily could have made the decision to stay but the panic caused them to make mistakes. Miz did tell her to stay shortly after he realized it was fine but then Emi pulled another mob as she was trying to run out of the cave. Snowballed from there then gg

    • @TheAluvisify
      @TheAluvisify 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ziro6837 Except she's already played for like 30-40 hours at this point? She may be new to the game, but she's not new to leveling anymore.

    • @v1eTsOuLx
      @v1eTsOuLx 11 місяців тому +2

      @@ziro6837 I’m not saying emi is a veteran at the game but she has been playing for the past 6 months with Miz on Rumble. She’s not a complete beginner. And yes, the initial panic happened because of Miz. Just pointing out that it’s not as one sided fault as you think. In hindsight, Miz should have either never entered the cave as a duo or hearthed out when everyone told him to

    • @1982MaxPower
      @1982MaxPower 11 місяців тому +2

      @@ziro6837 Jeez stop defending her like a parasocial weirdo. They're both at fault. She had enough mana to get out of that situation. Yes, Miz paniced but both played that poorly after they tried to escape.

  • @Nackis
    @Nackis 11 місяців тому +22

    The sound effects kept coming at the most tense moments and it would kill me every time 😂

    • @Klax3
      @Klax3 11 місяців тому +1

      Is it an add on?

  • @MegaDK47
    @MegaDK47 11 місяців тому +35

    Man, Miz looks so defeated, he even tried to save Emi this time too, at this point levelling fresh would be preferable to me, having to sit their for hours mindlessly mob tagging just to get back to the exact point that killed you TWICE?! hopefully they both continue.

    • @gamerzss
      @gamerzss 11 місяців тому +8

      They should honestly start questing alone, so they actually learn their classes... but hardcore is not a good format to learn

    • @oneactchasm-gi3zs
      @oneactchasm-gi3zs 11 місяців тому +1

      @@gamerzssThey should just get an extra player for caves, I usually like 3 people at least for higher level caves..

  • @DaFreezeey
    @DaFreezeey 11 місяців тому +9

    Ohh I can not WAIT for Soda's next lecture on Miz 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Valariel
    @Valariel 11 місяців тому +17

    If you’re playing with a dedicated healer and dying, you’re just making bad decisions. It’s like they tried to pull every possible mob.

  • @matthewmammothswine4395
    @matthewmammothswine4395 11 місяців тому +3

    See this is why you play Pally. Best class at STANDING YOUR GROUND BROTHER.

  • @ikuep
    @ikuep 11 місяців тому +34

    These are the growing pains of HC classic if you have little or no experience. Sad but, go agane!

  • @balvarinenz
    @balvarinenz 11 місяців тому +1

    22:01 your eyes are pointing in two different directions, thats one hard ass day gaming right there! lol keep up the great content

  • @sbarter
    @sbarter 11 місяців тому +17

    "Something happened and emi couldnt cast her spells"
    "I was out of mana" lol

    • @mr.meatsoup5639
      @mr.meatsoup5639 11 місяців тому +2

      except she was like 50% when they decided to run. They both panicked and screwed up.

    • @Notski
      @Notski 11 місяців тому

      She said that her addons bugged.

    • @sbarter
      @sbarter 11 місяців тому

      @@Notski add ons were jacked up yesterday for sure.

    • @mr.meatsoup5639
      @mr.meatsoup5639 11 місяців тому +3

      @@Notski Sure thing, except she kept using her spells like pw shield and holy nova while running. The bug in question was a bagnon error, she couldnt use items which doesnt prevent casting normal spells. Just fyi.

    • @Notski
      @Notski 11 місяців тому

      @@mr.meatsoup5639 yeah fair. What miz said doesn't make sense there

  • @SchweppesLemonIsGodTier
    @SchweppesLemonIsGodTier 11 місяців тому +18

    "I feel like I'm going to throw up... I feel so bad for them..."
    2 seconds after: "Oh he died at 43? LOOOOOOOOOL"

    • @EsfandTV
      @EsfandTV  11 місяців тому +18

      We’ll because it’s the EXACT same level he died at last time lmao

  • @AcSlaytah56
    @AcSlaytah56 11 місяців тому +27

    They died because they were trying to be too careful. Emi called out low mana, and miz didnt even look to see her mana. And because he assumed "no heals" would be happening, he decided to run through a massive train of respawns instead of just finishing off the 2 interruptible casters.

    • @Wataheadable
      @Wataheadable 11 місяців тому +2

      Being in any cave in WoW Classic is the definition of not being careful 🤣
      It is the potential reward to finishing the cave that makes it worth it - almost always being a chest in the furthest depths - that reward comes with risks.
      These two need a third person with experience guiding them - maybe just a silent third party member.

    • @Murlockingqc
      @Murlockingqc 11 місяців тому +1

      She was never out of mana, not sure what kind of weed you are smoking mate...
      The only time she went oom was when she spammed Holy Nova for no fucking reasons, she should have Shielded and Regen HoT both of them instead.. they were literally fine the whole time, even when Emi aggroed the third mob.
      The problem is, they don't know what the fuck they are doing, and clearly panicked.

    • @AcSlaytah56
      @AcSlaytah56 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Murlockingqc try reading what I said again.

    • @Murlockingqc
      @Murlockingqc 11 місяців тому +1

      @@AcSlaytah56 The way you worded it I assumed you thought Emi actually had no mana, my bad bro !

  • @DurzaOnYT
    @DurzaOnYT 11 місяців тому +3

    Hi esfand! I’m a brand new viewer and started watching because of you guys bringing back WOW. I’ve never watched or played wow but the energy and role playing you guys are putting into this makes it look like so much fun!! I bought a pc and plan to start playing wow on hardcore, only problem is that I have no idea what addons I should have? Is there any where I could find that?
    Great content and take care man I’ve been watching a lot of you stuff and I love it! Keep it up :)

  • @Meditati0on
    @Meditati0on 11 місяців тому +5

    Actually on point, its good content, enjoy it while it lasts. Made me try hardcore for the first time ! having a blast :)

  • @Trikiran
    @Trikiran 11 місяців тому +40

    They need someone with them who knows the game and who can save their butt's.

    • @vigamingde
      @vigamingde 11 місяців тому +3

      they should play retail instead.

    • @chuggynation8275
      @chuggynation8275 11 місяців тому +7

      Miz is more sooted for retail he has 0 patience while EMI would be doing fine if she didn't lvl with miz. He's the worst possible person to lvl with massive ego and listens to nobody even people who played 100 times more.

    • @YoutubeDictatorship2024
      @YoutubeDictatorship2024 11 місяців тому +5

      @@chuggynation8275bro did you even watch this video? Stop simping

    • @AkiRa22084
      @AkiRa22084 11 місяців тому

      @@vigamingde Retail Hardcore is a lot harder, but way more fun.

  • @norightturn7047
    @norightturn7047 11 місяців тому +12

    I actually feel bad for both of them. It looks like Mizkif was trying to be super safe and keep them alive this time. I would say they shouldn't have run but everything is a lot easier to judge when you have hindsight and a video in front of you. Mistakes happen. I haven't played WoW for years but I do remember running out of caves can be super dangerous.

    • @Lucy-dk5cz
      @Lucy-dk5cz 11 місяців тому +1

      Mizkif and safe is an oxymoron

    • @lukeguest300
      @lukeguest300 11 місяців тому

      Just stay out of caves...

    • @Peter_Griffaaa
      @Peter_Griffaaa 11 місяців тому +1

      being a total dumbass can also be super dangerous, sadly enough for miz

    • @imyournme6632
      @imyournme6632 11 місяців тому +3

      trying to be super safe? These mobs are 4 levels above them and this is a trap cave. He pulls nonstop 3-4 mobs at a time. He is not playing safe, he is playing like a chimp.

  • @slimthecatdad
    @slimthecatdad 11 місяців тому +8

    Mizkif once again does not kill the low mob that runs away

  • @biznismilan
    @biznismilan 11 місяців тому +7

    I don't think people are calling him out over the mistake as much as his immature attitude towards it, blaming the mage when clearly you can see on the footage, he is the one who f****d up the most. So at the very least, he could've owned up to it.

    • @EsfandTV
      @EsfandTV  11 місяців тому +2

      But he literally did own up to it though. Immediately after the death

    • @biznismilan
      @biznismilan 11 місяців тому +4

      @@EsfandTV You mean when he said "The mage pulled 7 different things. That mage pulled extra s*it. It's the mage's fault. I did not pull. So you can't, chat. It was not me. It was literally the mage"
      Those were his exact words after the death. Doesn't sound like owning up to me.

    • @biznismilan
      @biznismilan 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Allan_Stone "he always shifts blame until he realizes" lol. Sounds immature and narcissistic.

    • @SystemUnderSiege
      @SystemUnderSiege 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Allan_Stone he shifts the blame until the vod is watched and his blameshifting doesn’t match the reality of what we just watched and his entire chat is calling him out

    • @SystemUnderSiege
      @SystemUnderSiege 11 місяців тому

      @@Allan_Stone thanks

  • @USMCRonin
    @USMCRonin 11 місяців тому +2

    Run at half mana and full health. This guy hasn’t played the game. In the 40s is when boosting no longer helps it’s pretty clear since he’s died at the same level twice.

  • @poundtownlegend1564
    @poundtownlegend1564 11 місяців тому +7

    Yeah I agree as a less experienced player that naga dude running away would have made me panic as well. I thought he was going to pull 2-3 more mobs than he did.

  • @Rich_Xnda
    @Rich_Xnda 11 місяців тому +7

    That was a rough one, I feel for them both.

  • @Theldanis
    @Theldanis 11 місяців тому +4

    Just count the numbers how often Miz used Hamstring, exactly 0 times. He didn't even try to get away.

    • @Whoshotmyrifle
      @Whoshotmyrifle 11 місяців тому +5

      he probably doesn't even know what hamstring is

  • @b0ne91
    @b0ne91 11 місяців тому +9

    They were completely fine. Idk why they even panicked. 3 mobs, 2 of them pretty much dead and 50% mana...

    • @robertocp50
      @robertocp50 11 місяців тому +1

      because mizkif has 0 game knowledge on how to tank... and even if he managed to hit 60, hed probably die in his first raid, because hes terrible at the game

  • @IzzetNilson
    @IzzetNilson 11 місяців тому +12

    I love your play by play and analysis of these chaotic deaths.
    My hot take:
    Over reliance of add-ons is bad.

    • @SubtleGrind
      @SubtleGrind 11 місяців тому +3

      Being spoon fed gear from the start also adds a level of over confidence. And by the time their overgearing catches up and no longer becomes nearly as OP you get this.

    • @v1eTsOuLx
      @v1eTsOuLx 11 місяців тому +3

      @@SubtleGrind Sadly Miz's gear was absolutely terrible for that character. He was using 1h maces while spec'd for ARMS (not Fury) and stacked too much stamina over strength so the damage output was very poor compared to back when he had a Whirlwind axe. The lack of hamstring for escaping mobs is also a major issue

    • @AkiRa22084
      @AkiRa22084 11 місяців тому +1

      Addons are not the issue.

  • @tridec6326
    @tridec6326 11 місяців тому +2

    Especially with the particular creatures they're fighting that are spamming multiple types of slow (as well as being higher level), once you're inside that cave with respawns outside there is no running. You have to stay and play the fight out, however bad it might be. They clearly lack game knowledge and would really benefit from playing solo for a while to get a better feel for the game. Levelling as a Warrior + Priest duo is clearly limiting their game sense because it prevents them from having an appropriate learning experience.

    • @TehMafiaTV
      @TehMafiaTV 11 місяців тому

      Hit it perfect. So many misplays, which is acceptable, but for sure need to be reinforced learning. Like double target dummies and train running through the other 7-10 mobs in the front valley. damn.

  • @Mac_Lir
    @Mac_Lir 11 місяців тому +8

    Honestly was impressed with Miz in this, seeing him using his abilities and gear to try and survive or at least get stuff off Emi was not what I was expecting. Several points I thought "he should use this right now to try and help" and then he does really showed that he is learning the game pretty well.

    • @bukojoetheslapsoils8273
      @bukojoetheslapsoils8273 11 місяців тому +1

      Same. People still shitting on him tho. So sad to see that.

    • @minecraftminer59mineboymin38
      @minecraftminer59mineboymin38 11 місяців тому

      nah he stupid, why run from 2 mobs and pull 8 others

    • @Mac_Lir
      @Mac_Lir 11 місяців тому +1

      @@minecraftminer59mineboymin38 pretty sure if you watched the Vid then you can hear a likely reason as to why he was calling to run... But hey if you can't take the time to watch it then thats on you.

    • @minecraftminer59mineboymin38
      @minecraftminer59mineboymin38 11 місяців тому

      i dont have to watch it, i see hes stupid@@Mac_Lir

  • @justinh1589
    @justinh1589 11 місяців тому +1

    This video made me sub. Humble dude I also just started playing again after a few year break

  • @XxHrallundeadrogueXx
    @XxHrallundeadrogueXx 11 місяців тому +4

    RIP to the LionHeart Helm you shall be missed

    • @Icanabaco
      @Icanabaco 11 місяців тому

      He left it in his inventory? x_x

  • @Okami_Sengetsu
    @Okami_Sengetsu 11 місяців тому +5

    I have never really gotten into wow, but the OnlyFangs thing has given me a desire to watch more of the content. Reminds me of the old Gta rp with Kevin Whipaloo and Cornwood.

  • @nickedee99
    @nickedee99 11 місяців тому +1

    They were safe inside the cave. The big mistake was to run away and aggro all those mobs.

  • @isakelfverson9797
    @isakelfverson9797 11 місяців тому +3

    Emi was not out of mana when they where in the cave and there was only 2 mages pulled by that time, the decision to run was så BAD and so obvi not to do

  • @Aubatron
    @Aubatron 11 місяців тому +2

    Super hard to die as 2 players when you have a priest. If you get overhwlmed you spam bubble and renew while the Warrior tanks it. Shadow word pain and wand, and aoe fear if you get in trouble as a last resort. With 2 players you can kill like 8 mobs at once, especially with a Warrior. Just gotta tough it out and keep fighting, but I guess they're not that experienced with it. I was in this cave grinding for like 1 1/2 levels solo without an issue. You just gotta all-in and don't stop moving or you'll get respawns. But I mean, I died at 56 on the frozen lake in Winterspring with that damn patrolling elite elemental, so who am I to talk. 😂

  • @BigZumago
    @BigZumago 11 місяців тому +8

    I do not understand why they are not running the same way they came in and started to panic when there was just one mob alive when they started to run, this is so dumb to " run away " from 1 mob towards 12 mobs XD

    • @Murlockingqc
      @Murlockingqc 11 місяців тому

      If you feed a wild animal, they will not know how to survive in the wild.

  • @Orudos
    @Orudos 11 місяців тому

    Everyone remembers times growing up when your parents gave you some really good advice, or offered some help, and you said "I'm a big boy now, I got this". Then you proceeded to mess up, thus learning a lesson on your own instead of through your parents experience.
    This is basically Esfand being Dad pally, trying to help his 13 year old fraternal twins through WoW. He has all the wisdom, love and help to offer, but the twins want to make their own way and learn their own hard lessons. All Dad pally can do, is keep loving his level 1 twins and being their for them.

  • @sample.text.
    @sample.text. 11 місяців тому +4

    Nah I feel bad for Miz on this one. Yes he should have hearthed but that's just hindsight at this point.

  • @julianj4137
    @julianj4137 11 місяців тому +2

    Damn that suck but thats what happens when you dont play your class until lvl 40

  • @JayIngemar
    @JayIngemar 11 місяців тому +12

    W Esfand standing up for Miz and holding Emi equally accountable.

  • @OneWorldHistory
    @OneWorldHistory 11 місяців тому +3

    So true about WoW dying.
    I’m one of tens of thousands of return customers. I quit in 2009.
    Hardcore brought many of us back.
    …it is the best thing Blizzard has done in over 15 years.

  • @AnthonySuderley-m8h
    @AnthonySuderley-m8h 11 місяців тому

    ok when the tank says RUN you RUN dont stay in the CAVE with a add on you looking for the one that told you to RUN

  • @XcSNIPERcX
    @XcSNIPERcX 11 місяців тому +1

    OH BOY LEVEL 43!!!! TIME TO GO QUEST IN A CAVE WITH HIGHER LEVEL MOBS! - Probably Mizkif seconds before disaster

  • @xXIDanIZz
    @xXIDanIZz 11 місяців тому

    I feel like my teacher just told off the whole class for 15 minutes because one naughty kid couldnt shut the fuck up lol

  • @Zatash
    @Zatash 11 місяців тому +6

    This two deaths are result of panic and inexperience.
    You can't expect to be good at the game when you started a few weeks ago and are getting boosted.
    There's still a long way to go for them. At least you can see small improvements. Miz did the wrong call but his play was much better than the previous deaths. Emi just panicked.
    Looking at their reaction after and seing they are trying to keep up with player with 10+ years of experience as newbies is actually tanking their morale.
    Anyway it's just fun and games and winning or losing is always content. Can't wait for Soda rage
    Time to go agane!

  • @NorthzYT
    @NorthzYT 11 місяців тому +1

    There's a bunch of things to comment on for bad plays/calls but how are they so deep inside of the cave with respawns behind them? This doesn't look like playing safe at all.

  • @Dexteritas55
    @Dexteritas55 Місяць тому

    Honestly Miz Played that so well. A lack of confidence but his plays were huge until the end, and other than that one bit after the double decoy he tanked for emi several times before sacrificing himself like Gn'ar

  • @fluf0
    @fluf0 11 місяців тому +2

    The decision to run out when they only had two casters left to kill... was just bad, and the reason they died.

  • @captainrwcg3558
    @captainrwcg3558 11 місяців тому +1

    if they handled the mobs inside the cave they would`ve survived ez, but they both panicked and they were building up threat with attacks and spells on the mobs they were running from and they pursuit you even more but it`s ok it is what it is you learn from your mistakes, mistakes = experience

  • @triptriad1101
    @triptriad1101 11 місяців тому +2

    There’s a question on the form to apply for the guild that literally asks about Quests in a cave, what do you do?
    Well, guess I know what Miz put down. “Yolo”

    • @minuette1752
      @minuette1752 11 місяців тому

      Avoid them at all costs.

  • @djlovesyou8302
    @djlovesyou8302 11 місяців тому +4

    The stupid thing is that they duo and Miz thinks it's a good excuse to take more risks. Why not just take that advantage and use it to just completely ensure that you don't die? Every time I see them play together 'One red mob nearby' or 'Two red mobs nearby' always pops up on their UI. Why not just stick to farming around mobs your level and usually lower just to remove the risk? Oh, and avoid caves like that.

    • @ionutalexandru3645
      @ionutalexandru3645 11 місяців тому

      Cause if they did that chat would not spam o7 at every single pull because there would be no danger involved.

  • @Dippie60
    @Dippie60 11 місяців тому +1

    So instead of trying to beat those 4 mobs they decided to run through another 6 to try to escape frostbolting nagas

  • @skullyzYT
    @skullyzYT 11 місяців тому +8

    Something id like to understand is how do we EVER get a culture of players who except others in their groups and new players and such if we are selective on who people should shame or not for "lul dying". how many asmongold videos are there are of him calling people morons for dying and then over analyzing everything people did wrong? I get that asmongold is a friend so its obviously going to be different when somebody like you analyze his actions, but if we truly want to change mindsets, i think its important to be consistent and target all types people being toxic to those who made mistakes that anybody makes during hardcore. Asmon can obviously do what he wants and he is probably not alone, but this content breeds more and more people who are just going to nit pick and be toxic and baddger people for being "bad". and if one of the biggest wow streamers is doing this sort of thing, why on earth would a bunch of randoms ever stop?

    • @SilverSeleucid
      @SilverSeleucid 11 місяців тому +1

      sounds like you need to get good. coddling people never works

    • @djlovesyou8302
      @djlovesyou8302 11 місяців тому

      @@moroth9541 I think the most frustrating thing about the whole 'trash talk' situation, is the losers that are dishing it out are on the whole failures in every single aspect of their lives. But I guess in some ways that makes it easier to just ignore what they say and move on.

  • @Huckle777
    @Huckle777 11 місяців тому +5

    It's insane that they can't hit 60 even after being hard carried and handed bis gear and enchants

  • @Wowluvn101
    @Wowluvn101 11 місяців тому +1

    At least they made it that far. Ive died 3 times at level 10. Im psyched that I got a lock to 11 and im being super cautious lmfao

  • @BebopHero
    @BebopHero 11 місяців тому +1

    Holy fuck is that a lionsheart helm on his bar? PLEASE don't tell me he died with that

    • @champa342
      @champa342 11 місяців тому

      He had a lions heart helm and Kang the decapitor axe in his bags.

  • @f.kproductions3155
    @f.kproductions3155 11 місяців тому +4

    I think most people shitting on miz are not serious but there will always be some that actually hate him and would still say fuck miz even if he cured cancer

  • @Mikey.M.V.P.1
    @Mikey.M.V.P.1 11 місяців тому +1

    They died together RIP they both go again together

  • @blubblubwhat
    @blubblubwhat 11 місяців тому

    A bigger truth has never been tuthed! Good statement at the end of video.. watch till the end!

  • @Lucy-dk5cz
    @Lucy-dk5cz 11 місяців тому +1

    Emi has never had to cleanse because she was carried to level 40......

  • @CommanderTurner
    @CommanderTurner 11 місяців тому +1

    They could have made it if they continued killing in the cave, Emi had plenty of mana.

  • @StandYourGround69
    @StandYourGround69 11 місяців тому

    The Dumb Ways to Die song was very apropos.

  • @bobbo201
    @bobbo201 11 місяців тому +1

    Asmon prolly going to tell them to man up also. Cause some times running is the worst thing you can do. They ran in to so much getting out of that cave.

  • @iPodTouchTweaks
    @iPodTouchTweaks 11 місяців тому +2

    Running from two mobs with 1,3k mana…

  • @martintrudel2523
    @martintrudel2523 11 місяців тому

    dude all the hit he received in the back might explain his death XD

  • @Bigfootuss
    @Bigfootuss 11 місяців тому +1

    they just didnt have the skill and experience to determine the situation accordingly, since miz could have just deleted those 2 caster mobs

  • @itsChrisUlmer
    @itsChrisUlmer 11 місяців тому +3

    It's just two people who are fairly casual WoW players... Nbd, shit happens. It's all just content for them anyways. They'll have new characters with full BiS shit every level rinse and repeat. I feel worse for the bozo's funding them with gear and gold lol.

  • @BrandynTK
    @BrandynTK 11 місяців тому

    Yo after watching you guys all do that irl guild meeting stuff... I about died laughing when you would stand be standing next to soda and he would scream at you to get the fuck away from him.... And you would just be like "yes sir" shit had me laughing... I'm calling it now... You all need to make a TV show like "The Guild".... But call it "OnlyFangs" or something... I swear to God it would make you all movie stars.

  • @jefferyhamilton7207
    @jefferyhamilton7207 11 місяців тому +3

    i agree with you miz doesn't have the exp to understand that if you have a healer you need to try and make sure your heler has line of sight on you. when he ran out of the cave he broke Los and did it again after that second bottleneck if your healer can't see you they cant heal you

    • @sterowentUS
      @sterowentUS 11 місяців тому +3

      Not only this, but emiru called out low mana with around 30-35% a available. Mizkif didn't confirm by looking. And emiru dropped her dummy after mizkif, neither of which were called out. They both panicked, and they both made really bad calls.
      Esfand or soda need to organize a panic boot camp for all the newcomers

    • @oliverxhmll
      @oliverxhmll 11 місяців тому +2

      @@sterowentUS if he doesn't have the exp to understand he can kill 3 mobs when he's warrior and has a healer then what's the point. These people getting mob tagged when 1-40 is a good time to actually learn how to play. I think the weirdest thing is that he's not a new player.

    • @jefferyhamilton7207
      @jefferyhamilton7207 11 місяців тому +1

      @@sterowentUS i think your right lack of exp is why this happened

    • @sterowentUS
      @sterowentUS 11 місяців тому

      @@oliverxhmllbecause when esfand essentially sat down will and cyr and taught them keybinds and movement and technique you could tell right away how much better they got, how much more confident they became. Yes, the mob tag leveling is bad, but that doesn't mean a lot of players, such as emiru as well, don't want to enjoy themselves or enjoy the game, or be good at it. Their unique circumstance presses them forward without the key experience is all

    • @TheHollowBlade
      @TheHollowBlade 11 місяців тому +1

      @@oliverxhmlli used to play with a very casual guild, most players were ok at the game enough to complete heroic raids back in legion. We had a guy who has played non stop since vanilla and even had server first achievement for naxx in wotlk, you would figure he was at least alright at the game by then. This dude was the worst player ive ever seen. Every single pull he would die, he was always the first to die and always had low to mid dps. Eventually i stopped playing but another bud told me they had to bench him from heroic what ever raid in bfa, he rage quit that the guild lol saying it was bs he was being benched. Playtime =/= skill..

  • @deathknight161
    @deathknight161 11 місяців тому

    "I feel like im going to puke"
    Why is he so invested in their deaths?

    • @Icanabaco
      @Icanabaco 11 місяців тому

      Aren't we all? And he's their friend

    • @deathknight161
      @deathknight161 11 місяців тому

      @@Icanabaco its a videogame who gives a shit

  • @kylesmith987
    @kylesmith987 11 місяців тому

    the sad part is that the biggest mistake they made was attempting to run. They obviously could have done things a lot better when attempting to run but they didn't need to run in the first place. There was only 2 mobs left a live when they decided to run. Miz had nearly full life and EMI still had 1500 mana which is more then enough for a couple of heals. They could have easily just fought it out and been fine. They were also on a corner vs 2 casters so it would not have been that difficult to just corner peak the casts the mitigate damage not that they would even have needed to do that to survive.

  • @vic7o2
    @vic7o2 11 місяців тому

    Rule #1 always clear the front if your going to do a cave.

  • @dontmindme64
    @dontmindme64 11 місяців тому +3

    damnn, its sucks, but from what i see from the vods, miz letting go 1 low nagas with very low hp (classic), emi back then literally had 1.4k mana jesus christ its not "out of mana" or "i dont have enough mana" thats literally enough, miz told emi to run, but after they killed 2 nagas, they literally shouldve just stay and i think miz knew it, so miz told emi to "stay here, stay here" but i think shes panicking, so emi still run and pull another one and miz knows whats gonna happen so yeah they just run with all the respawn outside, but still whyyy, ahhh theyre just bad like bad bad

  • @timeless1882
    @timeless1882 11 місяців тому +2

    They honestly need to just learn how to play their classes and what's their classes limitations, instead of getting boosted to level 40 after they die. As someone new to wow and learning the mechanics as well, going at things at your own pace and watching guides would really help these two a lot, and they have so many good wow players who would help them learn their class too. They both fucked up here and I can't wait to see Soda's reaction to them dying AGAIN lol

  • @ajaykalpalli7066
    @ajaykalpalli7066 11 місяців тому +4

    Good on Esfand for calling it as it is. It's not her fault but the Emi simps have been unbearable lately.

    • @ferocis2255
      @ferocis2255 11 місяців тому

      They are always unbearable.

  • @Taegreth
    @Taegreth 11 місяців тому

    1:50 it's because it was entirely Miz's fault they died.

  • @partricksterling182
    @partricksterling182 11 місяців тому +6

    Damn dude, and they worked so hard to level up again. I feel so bad for them

  • @Meech_CV
    @Meech_CV 11 місяців тому

    Hardcore for Diablo makes sense but for WoW, it's sooo much time lost to just wipe a character and die to something stupid in a raid or something. is going to die at 60 to either people hatching too many Whelps on Onyxia, or some dumb bug charge in AQ that one shots people. There are just too many mechanics in the game that are cheese.
    Everyone should just get excited for Season of Discovery.

  • @wonderduck2345
    @wonderduck2345 11 місяців тому

    "If they had hamstringed". Bro, hamstring does not exist in this dojo to miz. He has NEVER used it that i've seen. Not once.

  • @Eaglebrace
    @Eaglebrace 11 місяців тому +3

    I agreed the toxic simpleton BS has to seriously stop.
    From constan shitting to people backseating how people should play it.
    Freaking wierdos are ruining everything.
    Some people doesnt realize how brutal places like caves in HC classic is + the rng mob spawns.

    • @gamerzss
      @gamerzss 11 місяців тому +1

      It's so fucking easy to avoid though, and he died at the same level at the exact same spot where he died just a couple of days ago. So there's 0 signs of improvement in his decision making. This wasn't all his fault, but he was pushing for them to go there and emi didn't really want to, he's too stubborn to learn

  • @gamerandy1810
    @gamerandy1810 11 місяців тому +1

    Miz pulling without finishing one is the issue

  • @tyrrand
    @tyrrand 11 місяців тому +2

    6:10 not that much of a risk????? Dude he was in a cave with mobs 2 levels above him as a warrior

    • @Notski
      @Notski 11 місяців тому

      Brotherman bill there's a big difference with doing that alone as a warrior vs having a priest with you.

    • @Notski
      @Notski 11 місяців тому

      @@moroth9541 the point was that it wasn't really risky. They died due to multiple unfortunate but significant mistakes.

  • @ringrev
    @ringrev 11 місяців тому

    Emiru should have insisted HARD that she get her addon situation sorted before continuing on, with ANYTHING.

  • @XeLYoutube
    @XeLYoutube 11 місяців тому

    1:12 bro what the... OOOOO

  • @nicoyourcousin
    @nicoyourcousin 11 місяців тому

    at this point they might as well just duo with miz on druid and emi as warrior. at least miz would have some knowledge of his character, and it wouldn’t really matter for emi since she’s new anyway.

  • @THINKTVTIME
    @THINKTVTIME 11 місяців тому

    They need another 2 healers for miz. Keeping miz alive is too OP

  • @RunicTitan
    @RunicTitan 11 місяців тому +1

    1000% agree with you. Really cringe seeing people hate on Miz for these deaths.
    I do want to add though; I dont think HC is the best way to enter WoW. Especially when other peoples lives depend on you in some situations.
    This is different for streamers who play with other streamers though of course.

    • @poundtownlegend1564
      @poundtownlegend1564 11 місяців тому

      It's just a hype thing since so many other people are playing it. And classic WoW non-hardcore is just watching multiboxed mages kill every camp. Theres also no one to do groups with in classic vanilla WoW.

  • @jstuwu
    @jstuwu 11 місяців тому +2

    great video man, always love your positivity

  • @TheATFshotmyGerbil
    @TheATFshotmyGerbil 11 місяців тому +1

    Why are they so deep in a fucking cave??!!?! content genious back to lvl 0 OMEGALUL

  • @oli_just_sayin
    @oli_just_sayin 11 місяців тому +1

    All those wow stream made me want to start playing for the first time, but didn't want to go crazy so classic not hardcore... really good decision I'm lvl 13 an died 20+ times !!!

  • @Lucy-dk5cz
    @Lucy-dk5cz 11 місяців тому

    Breakdown of mistakes. Didn’t pull humanoids back. Didn’t hamstring humanoids. Bad call to run

  • @RadialSeeker113
    @RadialSeeker113 11 місяців тому +5

    Miz and Emi should play with Simply and one more player whos actually good to level. Both Emi and Miz haven't learned enough about the game to go all in on HC.

    • @SavantAudiosurf
      @SavantAudiosurf 11 місяців тому

      They can do whatever they want, it's a game but people like Soda or other streamers shouldn't have high expectations for them, pressuring them to rush to 60 to raid.

  • @ChrisG_90
    @ChrisG_90 11 місяців тому +6

    "Not that much of a risk man"
    Kinda wild since theyre dead now, could say it was the ultimate risk.

  • @ChrisTomatoPie
    @ChrisTomatoPie 11 місяців тому +2

    i cant wait to see soda poppin about this

  • @emsax
    @emsax 11 місяців тому +2

    Runs against 2 mobs?! He can just LOS both casters and win easily. Not to mention he calls to run and doesn't hamstring a single mob on the way out? This class is too hard for him.

  • @pepi0o338
    @pepi0o338 11 місяців тому +3

    The amount of comments in this video that only blames miz for what happens makes me question if these ppl even watched the video at all.

  • @JoshHolden-Aka-evani
    @JoshHolden-Aka-evani 11 місяців тому +1

    definetly shouldn't have run out but like esfand said these guys aren't good at wow they just enjoy it, shit happens

    • @voodoohex72
      @voodoohex72 11 місяців тому

      yeah so they have no business playing hardcore. Hardcore is for wow players that actually have a clue.

    • @JoshHolden-Aka-evani
      @JoshHolden-Aka-evani 11 місяців тому

      @@voodoohex72 everyone is welcome to play any version of wow.

  • @Cynicv2
    @Cynicv2 11 місяців тому +5

    I know you are already gonna give Season of discovery a try, but i hope everyone else does as well. Would be great conent

  • @Sotanath86q
    @Sotanath86q 11 місяців тому

    It sucks for both but it's miz pulling being an idiot. Emi doesn't really have much control over that so ofc she gets more sympathy. They literally were fine but Miz decided to run through respawns out of a cave for no reason.

  • @Isaac-hm5ef
    @Isaac-hm5ef 11 місяців тому

    This is a game knowledge/sense gap. Making the decision to run and then pulling way more mobs than they would've dealt with if they had just stood and fought. Livable.

  • @MoirIV
    @MoirIV 11 місяців тому

    Order some pizza, it's level up party time.

  • @Murlockingqc
    @Murlockingqc 11 місяців тому +1

    They are both equally bad, they never been in stressful situations.
    As Esfand said, no gamer sense.
    Miz could have been in Defense stance and equip his shield, if he actually wanted to survive and run away.
    I hope they go again, but they need to take it more seriously... even a pro player could die in that cave...

    • @drangus8818
      @drangus8818 11 місяців тому

      that's the kind of cave that as a warrior, I'm not going in there until 48 even with a healer, and never without one lol

    • @Murlockingqc
      @Murlockingqc 11 місяців тому +1

      @@drangus8818 On HC, I don't think I would ever go in this quest.
      I also feel a bit of guilt, because I told Mizkif that Tanaris was boring and everyone was questing there, but it's probably because it's the easiest zone to not fuck up... not sure why he decided to go back to the same zone he died to tho... and do another cave...