I just bought one on EBAY because I learned about it on your video. I have a few cool metal surplus cook sets. Awesome kit. Can't wait for it to arrive.
That wax block possibly being used as fuel is a brilliant flame extender. Have you considered attempting to burn wax inside an alcohol stove to cook larger meals?
@@MiClLC thanks for the info. I have not thought about mixing the wax with alcohol though. I think I'm going to do alcohol first when I do the cooking in the mess kit for the first video
@@OliveDrabAlliance o yes me too. I think I might steam some veggies in it and cook rice in the jungle oven on my next overnight in the foxhole. Thanks for watching and commenting 😎
The wax block could be for waterproofing the older cotton blend of fabric, it probably would burn, but I couldn't imagine it would be safe to use by our standards today. Neat kit, thanks for showing!
@@alphaomegasurvivalsupply6548 interesting that's definitely probably a possibility. I asked the seller and it's used for burning for cooking. I might have to try it. Appreciate you watching and commenting😎👍💯
Very interesting. The Chinese steam a lot of foods, so the steam grate makes sense. I've read that scouts used bar soap to rub on their pots to keep soot from making the bottom black. I never tried it. Thanks for sharing.
I was at Philmont Scout Ranch in the NM mountains in '64. Back when the cast aluminum Dutch Oven was considered the ultimate in lightweight camp gear. We had this industrial powdered soap called Tetrox. We made a paste of it with water and doped the bottom of mess kits when cooking over open fire. You didn't wanna get any inside, or everybody eating from that pot would get the ''Tetrox Trots.'' I guess bar soap would work too.
Scotty the soap is used on the bottom of the pot before cooking. Its an old way of helping to keep it from burning. There is so many things that have gotten lost because of modern tec.
@@scottysurvival your very much welcome but don't listen to everyone but from knowledgeable people with the right information to help you in the long run.
@@oldredcoonhound2182 I'm not totally sure, but was told it was for steaming I guess you could use it either way though. Thanks for watching and commenting appreciate it👍
@@tolik5929 no problem. I think the seller still has some for sale on eBay. It's really a cool.piece of kit. I can't wait to use it here soon. If you don't see any on eBay from seller you can message him. He answered my messages no problem, and tell him Scotty survival sent ya😂😂
Maybe the wax could be rubbed into sticks to help ignite them. It would work I think. I have ignited Kiwi shoe polish in the can. The wax in crayons burns when there is paper on the crayons.
@@lonnieclemens8028 ya that would work for sure. I did ask the seller he said it's used for cooking just the wax by itself, but wasn't made for my mess kit, but should work.
That Mess Kit is a new one to me. Am looking forward to a field test please. The Wax Block? Best ask the the Sender. Size? Take away the bottom Burner Section and the two Mess Kits look to be pretty similar in size. Fuel? Alcohol-based Gel or Liquid Fuel. I live in Switzerland and would in my case, just use a small metal container as the burner (the bottom of a soda pop or energy drink can works fine). Filled with Alcohol Gel Fuel ('Sicherheitsbrennpaste' / Safety Burning Paste) and popped into that receptacle in the stove section, it will provide enough heat to boil water or cook just about anything one wishes. The brand available in Switzerland is extremely clean-burning .. being the Swiss go-to for their indoor dining table cheese fondue evenings (during Winter, a Swiss National Sport 😏). Liquid Alcohol-based fuel works just as well. Fill the burner with Ceramic / Glass Wool to reduce the risk of burning fuel spillage and Bob's your Uncle. A strip of tightly-rolled Carbon Cloth stuffed into the burner works just as well. Something else .. Aluminium, Food and a High Heat don't make for good Companions. Solution .. control the Heat and Stir, Stir, Stir 😁. Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
@@thomasmusso1147 it's awesome. I only discovered it recently. A hidden gem for sure. I plan on using alcohol or trioxine fuel putting tin foil in that circle spot on stove to make clean up easier. Thanks for the info and watching 😎😎👍
Interesting. I saw a video of the modern PLA mess kit and it's pretty neat too. My guess is that the Red Chinese kit [prior to getting the stove bottom attachment] was based on the WWII Imperial Japanese Army's Han Gou, [rice cooker]. That kit was copied from the German M31 Kochgesshir, but deleted the handle on the top pan, and had shallower pans. Officer's kits were rectangular, [like the French one on your wall], while the rank and file had kidney-shaped kits. I don't own one but I've seen videos.
@@HootOwl513 I've seen the PLA kits your talking about. Those seem to pretty nice made out of stainless steel. I'm going to have to look up that Japanese kit though. That's interesting. The mess kit is on the wall is actually part of a CZECH field kitchen set I have. Hey thanks for the info and watching 😎
@@scottysurvival Oh, OK. I thought that was the French pre-War mess tin. It was not unlike the German M31 but rectangular, not kidney shaped. After France fell, Germans issued some to their troops, before retooling for Wehrmacht gear. Must be distortion from a laptop screen. I do have that Czech Officers' kit, with a cutting board and KP utensils on the top, and three nesting Pots/Frypans, like a Russian Doll. I've been busy since I got it and haven't played with it yet. Looks about right for car camping with a Coleman 425 stove on the tailgate. There's also a French officers mess set [sold by Sportsmans' Guide as Italian] that has a giant two gallon oval bucket, lid, roaster pan with side handles, two half-span D-shaped cake pans, and another pan. One Christmas Eve, I made a Cioppino [fish stew] with vegetables, tomatos, diced potato, halibut, shrimp, clams, mussels and lobster. It was grand.
The Vietnam vs China war directly led the Chinese to start realizing that the SKS Type 56 was not quite up to snuff when the Vietnamese were general issued the AK series rifle. This led to not only some interesting firearms based on the SKS with removable magazines but more AK Type 56 being issued and the development of the Type 81 to replace both the Type 56 Rifle and Type 56 Carbine (I think the SKS was referred to as the rifle and the AK was the carbine) as well as the Type 63, among others that had been developed in small production runs.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 interesting thank you for the info. I've seen sks's with the detachable magazines on them. Wonder if because of what you said is why they made a high capacity magazine for them.
@@scottysurvival it is, the Type 63 looks like an SKS but really isn't just an SKS D and is a true experimental stop gap. They already had the Type 56 AK in full production but this era spawned some neat oddballs pre Type 81.
I am in contact with the seller and poised to buy one....the price is ridiculously high though, I need to see a field test before I make that investment. Could you film a field test for us? Nothing crazy, maybe some soup.
Cleaning your cups canteen nice and shiny is not benificial, except in the Army. Sure if its sooty and will transfer wipe it off. If not just leave it. In summer the hottest car in the sun is a black car. Blackened cookwear will boil water quicker and use less fuel. Call it BS if you want. I have trialed it, it is a little quicker. Mors Kovanski ( forgive my spelling of his surname ) also said the same
@@davidleonard1813 no it totally makes sense. I know of morse kohanski he was a great survival instructor. Thanks for commenting I really appreciate it and for watching as well 🤗💯👍
@scottysurvival Well thanks for that. I have commented this before and it started off a long winded discussion argument of hundreds of mostly nay sayers. Entertaining to watch lol
@@davidleonard1813 o yes I understand. Not on this channel. I clearly see what your saying makes sense. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the vid😎💯👍
I think the size difference is mostly because Western armies rely on compact, freeze dried foods that just require adding water and warming up. The Chinese army at that time still relied on rice with fresh vegetables added that required cooking. The wax block may have nothing to do with the mess kit. My guess is that it's for waterproofing web gear etc. Thanks for the video.
@@johnndavis7647 interesting. I did finally talked to the seller he did say that the wax is used for cooking, but was not specifically made for this mess kit but should work.
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Interesting stove and mess kit , Scotty, have a great week, thanks for sharing YAH bless brother !
@@MichaelR58 Thanks Michael it's definitely the most unique mess kit I've come across. YAH Bless brother🤗💯
You said strap on. Lol. Cool kit though. I like it.
Dude you're KILLING me with the wait for the field test video of it🤣🤣
@@IMDARKFIRE007 😫😫😫. I'm sorry I'm wanting to get out too....ugh..ugh...😬😩😩😩. Thanks for watching and commenting 🤗💯👍
I just bought one on EBAY because I learned about it on your video. I have a few cool metal surplus cook sets. Awesome kit. Can't wait for it to arrive.
Awesome Thank you for watching. I like it so far. Hope it comes in soon. Thanks for watching🤗
That wax block possibly being used as fuel is a brilliant flame extender. Have you considered attempting to burn wax inside an alcohol stove to cook larger meals?
@@MiClLC thanks for the info. I have not thought about mixing the wax with alcohol though. I think I'm going to do alcohol first when I do the cooking in the mess kit for the first video
Very interesting, thanks for sharing 😊
@@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 Absolutely and thank you for watching and commenting 😎
Man that’s an awesome piece for your collection! I’m glad you got it Scotty. Really looking forward to the field test video
@@GMdieselman thanks it really is. I'm pretty excited to get out and use soon. Thanks for watching as always😎👍💯
I do love me a nice mess kit. Good find! Looking forward to seeing it in action
@@OliveDrabAlliance o yes me too. I think I might steam some veggies in it and cook rice in the jungle oven on my next overnight in the foxhole. Thanks for watching and commenting 😎
The wax block could be for waterproofing the older cotton blend of fabric, it probably would burn, but I couldn't imagine it would be safe to use by our standards today. Neat kit, thanks for showing!
@@alphaomegasurvivalsupply6548 interesting that's definitely probably a possibility. I asked the seller and it's used for burning for cooking. I might have to try it. Appreciate you watching and commenting😎👍💯
The thing that makes it larger is the stove on the bottom. If you removed the stove part the two kits would be close in size.
@@kacythomas7436 Thank you I do realize that🤗. Thanks for watching
Very interesting.
The Chinese steam a lot of foods, so the steam grate makes sense.
I've read that scouts used bar soap to rub on their pots to keep soot from making the bottom black. I never tried it.
Thanks for sharing.
@@OKBushcraft that's very interesting. Thanks for the info brother 🤗💯👍
I was at Philmont Scout Ranch in the NM mountains in '64. Back when the cast aluminum Dutch Oven was considered the ultimate in lightweight camp gear. We had this industrial powdered soap called Tetrox. We made a paste of it with water and doped the bottom of mess kits when cooking over open fire. You didn't wanna get any inside, or everybody eating from that pot would get the ''Tetrox Trots.'' I guess bar soap would work too.
Dish soap rubbed on the pot before cooking will help wash the soot off.
Nice rice burner ya got there!
Pretty cool.
@@finaloption... It is I'm excited to get out and use it soon😎👍
Scotty the soap is used on the bottom of the pot before cooking. Its an old way of helping to keep it from burning. There is so many things that have gotten lost because of modern tec.
Thanks for the info. Definitely has multi-purposes from what you all are telling me. Thanks👍
@@scottysurvival your very much welcome but don't listen to everyone but from knowledgeable people with the right information to help you in the long run.
I wonder if a trangia burner will fit inside the burner area.
It's two small I did a cooking video with it, just need to find time to edit. Thanks for watching and commenting
Great review Scotty 👍 can’t wait to that thing in use 👋🏻 god speed my friend
@@foxriverbushcraft2345 thanks hope all is well. Keep it up your doing great with your channel 💯👍
I believe that grate thing goes above the stove part as a grill for the pot to sit on, not as a strainer
@@oldredcoonhound2182 I'm not totally sure, but was told it was for steaming I guess you could use it either way though. Thanks for watching and commenting appreciate it👍
Now you need a rice tube.
@@TimHarperW5TAH actually I was thinking the same. I made a cooking video With this I just need to find time to get it edited. Thanks for watching 😁
I want one now ! thaks for the heads up .
@@tolik5929 no problem. I think the seller still has some for sale on eBay. It's really a cool.piece of kit. I can't wait to use it here soon. If you don't see any on eBay from seller you can message him. He answered my messages no problem, and tell him Scotty survival sent ya😂😂
@@scottysurvival Thanks man , I know I will love it , the way I loved the Soviet VDV mess kit .
@@tolik5929 o ya.
Maybe the wax could be rubbed into sticks to help ignite them. It would work I think. I have ignited Kiwi shoe polish in the can. The wax in crayons burns when there is paper on the crayons.
@@lonnieclemens8028 ya that would work for sure. I did ask the seller he said it's used for cooking just the wax by itself, but wasn't made for my mess kit, but should work.
never seen one of these looks great
@@philliplewis-pm1ln I believe it's a hidden gem for sure 😃
That Mess Kit is a new one to me. Am looking forward to a field test please.
The Wax Block? Best ask the the Sender.
Size? Take away the bottom Burner Section and the two Mess Kits look to be pretty similar in size.
Fuel? Alcohol-based Gel or Liquid Fuel.
I live in Switzerland and would in my case, just use a small metal container as the burner (the bottom of a soda pop or energy drink can works fine). Filled with Alcohol Gel Fuel ('Sicherheitsbrennpaste' / Safety Burning Paste) and popped into that receptacle in the stove section, it will provide enough heat to boil water or cook just about anything one wishes. The brand available in Switzerland is extremely clean-burning .. being the Swiss go-to for their indoor dining table cheese fondue evenings (during Winter, a Swiss National Sport 😏).
Liquid Alcohol-based fuel works just as well. Fill the burner with Ceramic / Glass Wool to reduce the risk of burning fuel spillage and Bob's your Uncle. A strip of tightly-rolled Carbon Cloth stuffed into the burner works just as well.
Something else .. Aluminium, Food and a High Heat don't make for good Companions. Solution .. control the Heat and Stir, Stir, Stir 😁.
Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
@@thomasmusso1147 it's awesome. I only discovered it recently. A hidden gem for sure. I plan on using alcohol or trioxine fuel putting tin foil in that circle spot on stove to make clean up easier. Thanks for the info and watching 😎😎👍
Interesting. I saw a video of the modern PLA mess kit and it's pretty neat too. My guess is that the Red Chinese kit [prior to getting the stove bottom attachment] was based on the WWII Imperial Japanese Army's Han Gou, [rice cooker]. That kit was copied from the German M31 Kochgesshir, but deleted the handle on the top pan, and had shallower pans. Officer's kits were rectangular, [like the French one on your wall], while the rank and file had kidney-shaped kits. I don't own one but I've seen videos.
@@HootOwl513 I've seen the PLA kits your talking about. Those seem to pretty nice made out of stainless steel. I'm going to have to look up that Japanese kit though. That's interesting. The mess kit is on the wall is actually part of a CZECH field kitchen set I have. Hey thanks for the info and watching 😎
@@scottysurvival Oh, OK. I thought that was the French pre-War mess tin. It was not unlike the German M31 but rectangular, not kidney shaped. After France fell, Germans issued some to their troops, before retooling for Wehrmacht gear. Must be distortion from a laptop screen. I do have that Czech Officers' kit, with a cutting board and KP utensils on the top, and three nesting Pots/Frypans, like a Russian Doll. I've been busy since I got it and haven't played with it yet. Looks about right for car camping with a Coleman 425 stove on the tailgate.
There's also a French officers mess set [sold by Sportsmans' Guide as Italian] that has a giant two gallon oval bucket, lid, roaster pan with side handles, two half-span D-shaped cake pans, and another pan. One Christmas Eve, I made a Cioppino [fish stew] with vegetables, tomatos, diced potato, halibut, shrimp, clams, mussels and lobster. It was grand.
@@HootOwl513 o yes I did some cooking with and show n tell with the kit in my last overnight video. I've seen those Italian mess kits look pretty nice
The Vietnam vs China war directly led the Chinese to start realizing that the SKS Type 56 was not quite up to snuff when the Vietnamese were general issued the AK series rifle.
This led to not only some interesting firearms based on the SKS with removable magazines but more AK Type 56 being issued and the development of the Type 81 to replace both the Type 56 Rifle and Type 56 Carbine (I think the SKS was referred to as the rifle and the AK was the carbine) as well as the Type 63, among others that had been developed in small production runs.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 interesting thank you for the info. I've seen sks's with the detachable magazines on them. Wonder if because of what you said is why they made a high capacity magazine for them.
@@scottysurvival it is, the Type 63 looks like an SKS but really isn't just an SKS D and is a true experimental stop gap. They already had the Type 56 AK in full production but this era spawned some neat oddballs pre Type 81.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 Nice 👍. Thanks for the info. Hope all is well over and up your way😎
@@scottysurvival things are as well as they can be!
Full steam ahead and damn the torpedoes!
I suspect you should be able to use one of the plates with the cooker.
I am in contact with the seller and poised to buy one....the price is ridiculously high though, I need to see a field test before I make that investment. Could you film a field test for us? Nothing crazy, maybe some soup.
@@IMDARKFIRE007 my plan is and my next video I'm going to do an overnight and I'll be cooking with it in my foxhole or just doing a cooking vid 😎💯🤗
@@scottysurvival Earns a sub😁
Very expensive. I o ly could buy it because there are 3 paydays in August instead of 2......
@@TimHarperW5TAH I want it...but I'm not paying that until I see him use it in the field. Dragging his feet with that video too🤣
I got the cooking video done 😬. Just trying to find time to edit😫. Thank you for your patience
Just send it to me we'll figure it out later LOL
@@mikeyoung7086 I'll get back to you on that,🤔..well maybe or 🤔 not😁
Cleaning your cups canteen nice and shiny is not benificial, except in the Army. Sure if its sooty and will transfer wipe it off. If not just leave it.
In summer the hottest car in the sun is a black car. Blackened cookwear will boil water quicker and use less fuel.
Call it BS if you want. I have trialed it, it is a little quicker. Mors Kovanski ( forgive my spelling of his surname ) also said the same
@@davidleonard1813 no it totally makes sense. I know of morse kohanski he was a great survival instructor. Thanks for commenting I really appreciate it and for watching as well 🤗💯👍
@scottysurvival Well thanks for that. I have commented this before and it started off a long winded discussion argument of hundreds of mostly nay sayers. Entertaining to watch lol
@@davidleonard1813 o yes I understand. Not on this channel. I clearly see what your saying makes sense. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the vid😎💯👍
The chinese text says
The government gives the new mahinery speed and control
😂🤔🤔🤔
This guy looks like Paul Harrell
NAH...more like tom cruise from the side😎
Join the Chinese army, they'll tell you all that you want to know about it.😂
@@jimcy1319 🤔
The wax is probably shaved off with a knife and is used for cooking
I'm going to try that for sure. Thanks 👍
Please just get to it.
@@taunbeddes7055 lol you should go check out my Altoids video it's even better😂😂😂😂😂
Does it come with rocket fuel?
@@jw8567 lol..no. I have read though somewhere where the PLA we're using rocket fuel too cook with
Just say no to drugs 😮
@@dirtyscoundrel2013 😬
Boil test....
@@mr.somebody1493 👍💯😁
I think the size difference is mostly because Western armies rely on compact, freeze dried foods that just require adding water and warming up.
The Chinese army at that time still
relied on rice with fresh vegetables added that required cooking.
The wax block may have nothing to do with the mess kit. My guess is that it's for waterproofing web gear etc.
Thanks for the video.
@@johnndavis7647 interesting. I did finally talked to the seller he did say that the wax is used for cooking, but was not specifically made for this mess kit but should work.
The MK. 2 Model is simply a kick in the guts and a bowl of rice
Nice. Ya I have also liked those, but never have pulled the trigger on one.
What is the Mk.2 model?
The writing on the side translates to one unit per hundred men
Ahhhh interesting thank you 💯🤗
@scottysurvival Pretty sure that was supposed to be a joke.
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 hummmm🤔 I can neither confirm or deny if it was