Just bought the Archer AX21. It’s a BEAST! I had absolutely NO black screens or lag from the router. Compared to the usual 39 black screens per-game ratio. From my home router.
FWIW, I bought the Nighthawk AX3000, and it didn't work great. Admittedly. I got the refurbished Amazon one. It also can't do wireless repeater. Wireless repeater allows your quest to have internet from your main router when connected to your dedicated airlink router. I then bought the Asus and it was much much better, and it can be a wireless repeater. So if you're choosing between the two, I'd recommend Asus.
I'm using a TP-Link Archer C6 (1200) as access point in my room and had no stutters or so with it. But before it, I had a Huawei AX3 that caused relly bad stuttering. The 1200 works for me (using Air Link) but I don't guarantee, that everyone else will have a flawless experiance like I do.
I use the Asus and it works great. Dear reader, if you are, for any reason, hesitant on whether you should use (a cheap) cable or one of these, just get a router. I started with cable (not Oculus, 20-30$), plus pulleys for the ceiling (20$).. And it was definitely not worth it unless you only play sims that don't require turning your body. A great and not so expensive investment, that you can use in your future headsets (plus more security and bandwidth options).
I ordered the asus one it comes in tomorrow im happy i chose the right one before i even saw this vid.i set up the router and geuss how much ping and download mbps i get.i get 12 mbps and 150 ping wow i thought this thing would be good
I am currently using the AC1750 for like 2 years and I have no issues :D ... I guess the same situation as the AX1500, some models work and some just refuse to help :D Mine easily gets to 150 Meg when the 5GHz SSID is used Exclusively and I had no issues that would be worth mentioning ... only those classic ones connected with using Wireless like occasional stutter or spike in Latency because hey, it's wireless ... otherwise I would say no issues
I managed to find the nighthawk for £75 and I have to get it right now I'm using my keyboard cable because my airlink stutters so bad its unplayable so I'm getting a personal router for me because I have a family of 4 who are constantly using the WIFI on a £30 router so yeah... getting my own router definitely is the best option for me thanks for making this video 👍
awsome guide ! Is asus ax55 still good enough for quest 3 ? what about asus ax57 ax3000?! it is important for me to get a picture close to Oculus link, and I don't have to spend too much.
@@Red_Redemption 150mbps on VD and Airlink was 200mbps fixed. Whatever your rig can run will be the graphics setting. Was able to run high on Stormlands, 1080ti. Streaming no longer being the bottleneck, it allows your PC to be the main factor, which is great
It's probably great, but my quest kept disconnecting for some reason so I didn't bother with it. Lol. Do you have it connected to the internet as like an AP or something?
Does the Nighthawk AX3000 RAX35 still hold up? I'm trying to run boneworks, blade and sorcery, and bonelab all smoothly with good quality? (Great video by the way I love your dedication!)
I bought the nighthawk router and tried everything to connect to my vr headset via ethernet cable, it just won't see the headset for some reason, anyone have thoughts on this?
Can you set the Asus router just AX? I have figured out a way to get rid of the stutters in The AX 1500 x21 but it still has terrible over all latency in the high 50s and mid to low 60s, I am seeing in the network area that I am staying in between 7and 3ms along with almost the rest of the setting in the middle there. Game and encoding are a whole different ball game, I put that on the developers, especially those that do not let you control the setting within the game..
Is there any way / software to measure the data exported from the computer to Quest 2 while playing any game or viewing any video on the computer...i just need to know if my TP-LINK AC1200 ARCHER VR400 router Enough for play....it display 866 mb in virtual desktop main menu...and that give me 60 mb maxmum in bitrate....while your first router in your video show 150 mb
ive been using a huawei wifi 6 quad core router that costsed me around 50 pounds, but whenever i move my head i get bad black bars even tho it sets my bitrate automatically to 150 because of the speeds, should i buy the nighthawk router? its so annoying because i have decent pc specs like a 2070 super and 17-9700k, but i cant play a game without black bars without having to drop my bitrate to around 80, and playing low graphics ;-(( what do u think mayn.
I'm going to get router or pcie wifi card for virtual desktop on monday, I kinda have 2 options which tp link ax1500 or fenxi ax210 pcie wifi card. Wish me luck boiss
I belive you can connect the new router (Dedicated for quest 2) with ethernet cable to your PC, and have your old router (Home Router) connected with Wifi to you PC. And then you can create a separate network dedicated for the quest 2 on the new router with no other devices connected. Or if you have the option, you can replace your old router with the new one and connect it directly to you PC with a ethernet cable. That is if your router is not too far away from your VR room or you live with multiple people, then I would suggest the option above.
I used your old video to set up with the ASUS AX1800, works great, but was recently considering redoing it so it's cool that this came out because I had a question. Right now the asus is my only router but I plan to make it an access point wired to a new primary router. Would my primary router have to be good at all, or does it not matter? The quest would only be on the access point. Also could I plug my PC into the primary router or would it have to go to the access point?
Your home wifi router doesn't matter at all. But whatever router is connected to the PC via ethernet needs to be the same one your Quest connects to for the best results.
Whatever you do do NOT get a TP link product for wireless VR streaming. I am having a lot of stuttering with the TP link AX1800/AX21 that after weeks of troubleshooting I have narrowed down the router to being the problem. After diving deep into the troubleshooting process, a lot of these TP link products have the same issue. It is most common with only a couple of models, but with any one of the AX series routers there is a random chance that you will still have stutters no matter how many router settings you change. Some people do not have this issue and some people were able to fix the stutter with changing some settings, but I'm not one of the lucky ones from this group. I have a Netgear wax202 on the way now and it was recommended by the virtual desktop community.
I swear to god they purposely make finding the right router the most aggravating thing to ever do.... It will say things like "speeds of 2.5gbps" but only in little tiny writing somewhere on the box (and nowhere on the webpages) it will point out that number means for all devices combined.... The one I bought I forget the exact speed it advertised but it maxes out at 100mbps per device, sure you can connect a ton of devices but that is literally 1/5 of my internet speed so it takes 5 times longer than it should to download a PC game. Granted it's my own fault for not researching it enough but it wouldn't kill them to show what kind of max speed you can expect PER DEVICE somewhere in their literature or on the box.
does anyone know how to reduce the "decoding" latency in virtual desktop ..? i have standard router(from the provider) placed 2 feet from pc in wooden closet with 5Ghz dedicated to quest 2 , pc connected on ethernet cable on 2.4Ghz ,RTX 3070TI ,i7 8700K, 32 GB RAM . i get stuttersand bad graphics from time to time .
@@Kurtizzz I've never tried overclocking (the one time i did it was a terrible experience). But I think there's actually a setting in VD to boost clock rates.
Yes and no. If you're only using 150mbps like in the video, absolutely. Everyone praises the Asus routers. I've personally had good luck with the tplink 1500- 1800- and especially the 3000. 'the 3000 is known to overheat. Turn the signal power to medium solved it for me' It's when you have a quest 3 and want 500mbps on h.264+ is when you need to get picky. The tplink 1500 didn't quite make it. The 1800 did, but some stutters. My 3000 is perfect.
Hey Panda. My router is downstairs, I play upstairs and my PC is in the room next to my VR room. In this scenario, would it make much more sense to get a WiFi 6 Card for my PC and connect through one wall rather than get a WiFi 6 Router and try to connect through 3-4 walls? Also, are there any other benefits that mean I should buy BOTH a WiFi 6 router AND card? Thanks for the content!
Sounds like you should use a dedicated router that isn't connected to internet. Just your PC and headset. It's not as nice, but it works if you can't connect it to your home router
@@VirtualPandaVR Is the WiFi 6 card in my pc not just a better way of doing that? That'll give out a wireless signal from my PC my headset can pick up. I forgot to mention that we run an ethernet cable along my outside wall so my PC upstairs has ethernet from my downstairs router :) Thank you for the reply also!
Just bought the Archer AX21. It’s a BEAST! I had absolutely NO black screens or lag from the router. Compared to the usual 39 black screens per-game ratio. From my home router.
I might buy that it seems like a good router
So when you set it up can you move it to your game space?
@@Jsioajkk ?
thank you for providing the stats, so that people who know don't need to watch the whole video, really saved me 1 1/2 minutes (inluding comment) ❤
The more of the video that gets watched. The more the content provider gets paid. up to 24 cents per 1k likes!
FWIW, I bought the Nighthawk AX3000, and it didn't work great. Admittedly. I got the refurbished Amazon one. It also can't do wireless repeater. Wireless repeater allows your quest to have internet from your main router when connected to your dedicated airlink router. I then bought the Asus and it was much much better, and it can be a wireless repeater. So if you're choosing between the two, I'd recommend Asus.
Good info. Thanks!
I agree, Nighthawk stutters with even 1200Mbps, the Asus AX55 in the vid works better.
I'm using a TP-Link Archer C6 (1200) as access point in my room and had no stutters or so with it. But before it, I had a Huawei AX3 that caused relly bad stuttering. The 1200 works for me (using Air Link) but I don't guarantee, that everyone else will have a flawless experiance like I do.
I use the Asus and it works great.
Dear reader, if you are, for any reason, hesitant on whether you should use (a cheap) cable or one of these, just get a router. I started with cable (not Oculus, 20-30$), plus pulleys for the ceiling (20$).. And it was definitely not worth it unless you only play sims that don't require turning your body. A great and not so expensive investment, that you can use in your future headsets (plus more security and bandwidth options).
the asus? bro shut up...
I ordered the asus one it comes in tomorrow im happy i chose the right one before i even saw this vid.i set up the router and geuss how much ping and download mbps i get.i get 12 mbps and 150 ping wow i thought this thing would be good
I am currently using the AC1750 for like 2 years and I have no issues :D ... I guess the same situation as the AX1500, some models work and some just refuse to help :D
Mine easily gets to 150 Meg when the 5GHz SSID is used Exclusively and I had no issues that would be worth mentioning ... only those classic ones connected with using Wireless like occasional stutter or spike in Latency because hey, it's wireless ... otherwise I would say no issues
I've used the AX3000 for 2 years now and no issues.
I use TPL AX1500, i got it on sale for around 70$, and it's great
I have the same router, mine sadly stutters on airlink and vd.
Why external routers for AirLink? Why not ASUS PCE-AXE5400 for 50 EUR?
I managed to find the nighthawk for £75 and I have to get it right now I'm using my keyboard cable because my airlink stutters so bad its unplayable so I'm getting a personal router for me because I have a family of 4 who are constantly using the WIFI on a £30 router so yeah... getting my own router definitely is the best option for me thanks for making this video 👍
awsome guide !
Is asus ax55 still good enough for quest 3 ? what about asus ax57 ax3000?!
it is important for me to get a picture close to Oculus link, and I don't have to spend too much.
ASUS RT-AX55, 65mhz channel. ZERO lag spikes. Flawless on Airlink and Virtual Desktop
What settings did you play the games on?
@@Red_Redemption 150mbps on VD and Airlink was 200mbps fixed. Whatever your rig can run will be the graphics setting. Was able to run high on Stormlands, 1080ti. Streaming no longer being the bottleneck, it allows your PC to be the main factor, which is great
Can you do video on the d-link vr bridge and the asus router you mentioned in the video?
Also dlink isn't off brand. They been around since cisco was a thing
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Odd, I’ve used the TP link AC1200 (archer c6) for over a year now, I can do 150mbps and rarely ever get stutters.
It's probably great, but my quest kept disconnecting for some reason so I didn't bother with it. Lol. Do you have it connected to the internet as like an AP or something?
Yh it’s an access point in my room to my main router that’s in the living room.
@@JAYZ999 that's why it's working for you. Lol
I have Asus last gen high end gaming router the ac86u and it works fine in virtual desktop. Would i see and bigger gain in goin to a AX asus model?
Get the Netgear Nighthawk R7000 - AC1900 second hand if you live in the Netherlands. It works superb.
Really good video mate!
I use a Netduma R2. You think it would work well? Thinking for the future 👀
Does the Nighthawk AX3000 RAX35 still hold up? I'm trying to run boneworks, blade and sorcery, and bonelab all smoothly with good quality? (Great video by the way I love your dedication!)
can you use a range extender?
What about tp link archer ax 23 is that good for air link ax1800
What about the TP-LINK RE205 AC750. Is that any good?
I bought the nighthawk router and tried everything to connect to my vr headset via ethernet cable, it just won't see the headset for some reason, anyone have thoughts on this?
Can you set the Asus router just AX? I have figured out a way to get rid of the stutters in The AX 1500 x21 but it still has terrible over all latency in the high 50s and mid to low 60s, I am seeing in the network area that I am staying in between 7and 3ms along with almost the rest of the setting in the middle there. Game and encoding are a whole different ball game, I put that on the developers, especially those that do not let you control the setting within the game..
Is there any way / software to measure the data exported from the computer to Quest 2 while playing any game or viewing any video on the computer...i just need to know if my TP-LINK AC1200 ARCHER VR400 router Enough for play....it display 866 mb in virtual desktop main menu...and that give me 60 mb maxmum in bitrate....while your first router in your video show 150 mb
ive been using a huawei wifi 6 quad core router that costsed me around 50 pounds, but whenever i move my head i get bad black bars even tho it sets my bitrate automatically to 150 because of the speeds, should i buy the nighthawk router? its so annoying because i have decent pc specs like a 2070 super and 17-9700k, but i cant play a game without black bars without having to drop my bitrate to around 80, and playing low graphics ;-(( what do u think mayn.
I'm going to get router or pcie wifi card for virtual desktop on monday, I kinda have 2 options which tp link ax1500 or fenxi ax210 pcie wifi card. Wish me luck boiss
has anyone used these routers to airlink multiple PC's to multiple headsets? I am trying to look for a solution for 4 laptops and 4 quest 2s
Do I need to connect the router to my old router and my PC or just PC?
I belive you can connect the new router (Dedicated for quest 2) with ethernet cable to your PC, and have your old router (Home Router) connected with Wifi to you PC. And then you can create a separate network dedicated for the quest 2 on the new router with no other devices connected.
Or if you have the option, you can replace your old router with the new one and connect it directly to you PC with a ethernet cable. That is if your router is not too far away from your VR room or you live with multiple people, then I would suggest the option above.
I used your old video to set up with the ASUS AX1800, works great, but was recently considering redoing it so it's cool that this came out because I had a question.
Right now the asus is my only router but I plan to make it an access point wired to a new primary router. Would my primary router have to be good at all, or does it not matter? The quest would only be on the access point. Also could I plug my PC into the primary router or would it have to go to the access point?
Your home wifi router doesn't matter at all. But whatever router is connected to the PC via ethernet needs to be the same one your Quest connects to for the best results.
Whatever you do do NOT get a TP link product for wireless VR streaming. I am having a lot of stuttering with the TP link AX1800/AX21 that after weeks of troubleshooting I have narrowed down the router to being the problem. After diving deep into the troubleshooting process, a lot of these TP link products have the same issue. It is most common with only a couple of models, but with any one of the AX series routers there is a random chance that you will still have stutters no matter how many router settings you change. Some people do not have this issue and some people were able to fix the stutter with changing some settings, but I'm not one of the lucky ones from this group. I have a Netgear wax202 on the way now and it was recommended by the virtual desktop community.
is it good and are the graphics good
I swear to god they purposely make finding the right router the most aggravating thing to ever do.... It will say things like "speeds of 2.5gbps" but only in little tiny writing somewhere on the box (and nowhere on the webpages) it will point out that number means for all devices combined.... The one I bought I forget the exact speed it advertised but it maxes out at 100mbps per device, sure you can connect a ton of devices but that is literally 1/5 of my internet speed so it takes 5 times longer than it should to download a PC game. Granted it's my own fault for not researching it enough but it wouldn't kill them to show what kind of max speed you can expect PER DEVICE somewhere in their literature or on the box.
does anyone know how to reduce the "decoding" latency in virtual desktop ..?
i have standard router(from the provider) placed 2 feet from pc in wooden closet with 5Ghz dedicated to quest 2 , pc connected on ethernet cable on 2.4Ghz ,RTX 3070TI ,i7 8700K, 32 GB RAM .
i get stuttersand bad graphics from time to time .
The decoding latency is your Quest 2. Might be able to decrease it by overclocking the Quest 2, but then you're gonna run hotter and use more battery
@@VirtualPandaVR overclocking with the debug tool? Can you recommend some good settings? Battery is no problem with the bobovr m2 pro headstrap
@@Kurtizzz I've never tried overclocking (the one time i did it was a terrible experience). But I think there's actually a setting in VD to boost clock rates.
Is this still correct?
Yes and no.
If you're only using 150mbps like in the video, absolutely. Everyone praises the Asus routers. I've personally had good luck with the tplink 1500- 1800- and especially the 3000. 'the 3000 is known to overheat. Turn the signal power to medium solved it for me'
It's when you have a quest 3 and want 500mbps on h.264+ is when you need to get picky. The tplink 1500 didn't quite make it. The 1800 did, but some stutters. My 3000 is perfect.
@@tatsumaru12345 What do you recommend for quest 3?
I get 22 - 33ms latency with a BT hub bog standard router connected via ethernet to my main PC, router in same room as VR.
Hey Panda.
My router is downstairs, I play upstairs and my PC is in the room next to my VR room. In this scenario, would it make much more sense to get a WiFi 6 Card for my PC and connect through one wall rather than get a WiFi 6 Router and try to connect through 3-4 walls? Also, are there any other benefits that mean I should buy BOTH a WiFi 6 router AND card?
Thanks for the content!
Sounds like you should use a dedicated router that isn't connected to internet. Just your PC and headset. It's not as nice, but it works if you can't connect it to your home router
@@VirtualPandaVR Is the WiFi 6 card in my pc not just a better way of doing that? That'll give out a wireless signal from my PC my headset can pick up. I forgot to mention that we run an ethernet cable along my outside wall so my PC upstairs has ethernet from my downstairs router :) Thank you for the reply also!
@joshuariddellski you can try it, but generally, a wifi card will not be as good as a dedicated router.
@@VirtualPandaVR yo is the guide up to date if not can you please put your new top picks in the description?
I use starlink
d-link is not offbrand, althougfh is trash
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they literally went up 25 inb price to 70 bucks used
“D-Link”
ok
10th like :)
windows hotspot works fine if you’ve got a new wifi card
D-Link is not Off Brand
Don't trash talk about a brand without any proper research
just use ethernet
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