Please stop discouraging people how they have to explain express their emotions pain happiness experience. Poets don't have to share their poems with you they share with the world and every one has their own point of views. You can't learn poetry in schools. It's from your dreams emotions experience feeling you can't get from school
What you are saying is true. One can teach all the tools of poetry to another, but you can't teach the heart, emotion, and that special magic stuff. But one also benefits from boxing themselves in, either. These were several pitfalls people walk into all the time. Though in hindsight, this younger Dimitri was a bit too on the nose, there is important permission given here with saying you don't need to commit to the usual poetry tenets.
LOL! OMG! Had to do multiple cuts and takes. She usually sprawls seductively over my papers and makes an excessive amount of crinkly noises. Thanks for the sub! And thanks for following me on IG!
I laughed because I can relate to the last one, i sometimes think I'm going to write the best poem ever...yeah, it never turns out that way lol. I'm still trying to find my style, I hope I find it.
Music Freak Lol! It is to note that I too, get bitten by the "this is awesome!" bug. It usually doesn't go over well as this usually throws me into a submissions frenzy where I try to publish poems thst are just not ready yet. This is all a part of the discipline! As for your style just keep reading and writing. You already have ine, you just haven't noticed yet!
We grieve both the living, and the dead the memories, regrets, words unsaid Missed chances, old friends, and books Dreams never spoken, chances never took Exchange blame for pain, sun and rain Making decisions on emotions we can't even name Canceled plans and unanswered questions Put up walls, paint over love with December Trying our best to relive and recapture Things we very most likely misremember Disconnect the dots, periods, the points in our lives Analyze last words, thoughts and goodbyes Deathbed confessions, and near death experiences Longed for lives they never lived Acting out parts never meant for them Come out of the dark, back into the light Take a deep breath, it will all be alright....
Since when are we "past" rhyme? We should rhyme as much as is beautiful, even if it is every other line. If you don't want to use rhyme because it comes from the past, you'll have to throw out meter, alliteration, and many other useful, timeless tools of poetry. This fear of influence and the desire to be a self-made artist, without conventions, without guides, will only produce arrogance and ghastly poetry. Imitate the masters, perfect their form first (99% of you won't because you know it is remarkably difficult), and only then step out and prove you can truly write something better and different. Otherwise your poetry will slouch into comfortable, lazy forms like free verse, and your poetry will read like everyone else's with a Tumblr "poetry" account.
I agree, rhyme as much as is beautiful, but sticking to those forms when one is dabbling in poetry may deter them from pursuing it altogether. It's hard! Generationally we have to understand that our literary sages often times learned how to read by reciting scripture, then later poetry. I wouldn't necessarily take it as far as saying that "being passed" rhyming would make one throw away meter, alliteration and other devices that make a poem a poem. But what I am pointing out for those who are seeking help as a beginner is that there is so much out there beyond the abba rhyme scheme of a Shakespearean sonnet. A few other points worthy of clarification: If you watch and listen (as openly suggest you do! 😀) to my other videos, you'll notice how much I champion the idea of researching poetic influences that are a good fit. This is an organic and (very) practiced process throughout the ages. Those antiquated masters pulled from their antiquated masters, but what proceeded those were countless generations of poets that were built on the work of the generation before them. Technically, studying your contemporaries could essentially be the study of several schools of poetry. You're right, a poet could stagnate without assistance or direction-- I've been there. And since the conception of this channel, I've experienced many poets that were lost, stumbling upon these videos in search of guidance and they're finding it. But conversations like this can also be cleared up when poets work with poets that are figuring it out. That's why I push my Patreon account.
@@DimitriReyesPoet Actually, having your students rhyme in ABBA sonnet form would be a great start. This would get them comfortable in how to execute *skillful* rhymes. Don't further the idea that all rhymes must be of the "roses are red, violets are blue" variety. Teachable students will discover how rhyme puts out a small goal for them (created by their individual choice and imagination). Rhyme is immensely pleasing to the eye and ear, and modernist poets to modern singers know this. (Even the most creative rappers rhyme!). So why on earth would contemporary poets not also frequently use rhyme?
I feel like many folks would share your same sentiment and I see that perspective. It works. I do prefer to have poets I communicate with find their own way to things, but that's just my philosophy. As you mentioned about music, chances are that popular music as well as hip hop specifically, will have poets in inevitable contact with rhyming. Generally, it's pretty natural for us to want to rhyme even in speech. I relish in that kind of poetic development rather than the rudimentary form assignments (though I do teach those as well. Especially at the university level. Rhyme is as significant as any of the other literary devices in poetry and is still a staple in contemporary poetics.)
@The Hooded Claw Thanks for commenting. Though a rhyme isn't hard to do, a skillful and a nicely placed rhyme takes a bit more skill and finesse. If you're not a beginner, much of this video may not apply to you. If you're a poet who has been writing for awhile, you still may learn something. If you're new to writing or have been writing for awhile, it's good to know that you don't need the rhyme scheme crutch to get through a poem. Write what you want to write! www.dimitrireyespoet.com/6-beginner-poetry-mistakes/
I am a spoken-word poet branching into written poetry and in the writing workshops I've been to that have talked about rhyme talk about how repetitive rhyme schemes can lull the reader/listener because it is very monotonous. I also don't think there's any right way to create art and the way poetry is created and consumed has shifted just like any other form of art throughout history. Contemporary art doesn't require the same restrictions as classical poetry, but neither does any other form of art. By definition, poetry is "literary work in which special intensity is given to the expression of feelings and ideas by the use of distinctive style and rhythm." To be poetry, it does not have to conform to specific structures, it just has to have some sort of rhythm. I don't think there's anything wrong with making poetry more accessible to the masses instead of attempting to constrict it to only literary academics. Poetry, and all art, is for the people :)
I know free prose is seen to be more grown-up...but rhyming is not a lesser style. Everything has it's place, and there shouldn't be a "form hierarchy"
Agreed. There isn't only one way to write a poem and though one doesn't need to rhyme, it is a great device! Form is great too if one chooses it out of their own will to write in form. This video is giving permission to those who don't know that poetry can go beyond rhyming & formalist poetry :-)
i always write rhymed poems, it's what i find easiest, it's what i've always done, almost like the essence of my poetry. i don't force it and do take my freedom, it just comes naturally. is it bad to (almost) always if it comes naturally?
Looking at this post again, I wrote a poem about "a cat" and it was a bit under the influence of working at an animal shelter-- my fiance loved it, but I wasn't really feeling it. That bad poem helped me write other good poems, though.
Just reading how you answer and reply to everyone's comments in an open free flowing way. Made me subscribe. I feel that says a lot about who you are and your character. I have been writing poems for a while but I am always keen to learn and to keep on learning.
It can be. If the words are faster than you, this is the video that tells you that it's okay to let it get away. The rhyme will work in another piece :)
After a long time writing poetry, I've finally started rhyming. t's a different world. I tend to agree with Dimitri that beginning poets shouldn't obsess over it, and that it isn't necessary. But I also think I'm seeing that the reluctance toward rhyme is going to be increasingly seen as a "20th Century thing." Hip-hop has taken the Hoary Auld Auldness From Days Of Yore feeling rhyme used to have.
When people know, they know! And surely Todd, you're in the know. I see myself returning to rhyme, too, as time goes on. It's seen in all of my most recent spoken word videos (that yes, borrow from hip hop heavily! Where they borrow from 'ye olde ryeming' heavier!) I will say this and I stick to it-- when starting out, it's nice to pay attention to it, but it isn't the end-all, nor should it be a failsafe. "Write the poem, and rhyme will come."
Hey there!!! Great page. I only have an associates in Liberal arts in science but I want to get into freelance work. I've been writing for years but don't know how to start
Hello! The first thing I tell people when they want to freelance is to make sure that they are continuously writing. If you are doing that you are in good shape. Next, I would ask you what type of freelance writing you are looking to do. Do you want to write informational articles? More along the lines of editorials? Marketing and advertising? Or something even more creative? Like fiction, poetry, etc?
@@DimitriReyesPoet HEY! thanks for the response!!!... I was thinking more on the creative side. A few biblical messages, I written. I write poetry as well and looking to write a screen play...
@@brookbeck8102No worries, this is all great stuff. Have you seen my 10 Ways to Get Involved as a Poet video? That would be a step in the right direction. This will get you accustomed to keeping your ear to the ground for opportunities involving learning how to develop a screen play or places to share your poetry. Also, if you attend church, that'd be a perfect place to start reciting your biblical messages. I have some friends and colleagues who combine spoken work with THE WORD.
@@brookbeck8102 Wow, I'm just now seeing this comment! I hope it was helpful. If you are still interested in generating new material, my patreon page has been updated and my goal is to have an online literary community writing a new poem every week. You can watch that video here: ua-cam.com/video/W0NKYKVyBLE/v-deo.html
A lot of my inspiration comes from Charles bukowski, he's not liked by everyone but his words touch me the most and I strive to write like him, not necessarily copying him. You can be poetic by incorporating a lot of deep metaphors and vivid imagery, not just rhyming. People get offended if you say rhyming is true form of poetry or free verse is lazy.... but at the end of the day, do what works for you and that you love it. Rhyming is still good practice but not a necessity... if you hate doing it, then don't do it, the last thing you want is to be discouraged from any part of writing. It's very fascinating to see a bunch of egotistical jackasses try to dictate which form is inferior these days.
I got a spot for Bukowski. As a matter of fact, one of my poetry friends really likes Bukowski and favors him in his writing pursuits, too. There's a great article about him I read recently, too. If only we can all have that 1 patron that'll pay us to write for the rest of our lives-- that'd be great! And yeah, "the writing industry" is a sentence within itself. But the tides (and times) are changing. I can see the direction of so many poets through their conversations and their works and it's a bright future.
My question is does it 'feel' like a poem? And furthermore, can you argue it's a poem? At least even a little? If it waddles like a poem and quacks like a poem... ;-)
@@DimitriReyesPoet Thanks for the videos. I'm currently reading Ted Kooser's work. He advocates a lot for clarity and simplicity in poems, especially work from beginners. Myself, I'm trying to follow the rule that the idea is king - that language is, foremost, only the vehicle for the ideas. It doesn't matter how flowery and 'poetic' the language is - if the idea is crap or just isn't there, it's as good as worthless. So yeah, write towards an idea, develop it, and whittle it down to its most powerful, concentrated core.
@@happymaskedguy1943 Hi Andrew. Totally agree with your summation in the last line. Though as an educator and pretty open human, I have a moral obligation to myself-- I wouldn't call a piece of writing worthless :-) Usually there's at least an idea, a line or even a good few words that can come out of it. And I usually use those gems in the "dead poems" to reinvigorate something else I'm working on. Happy writing!
I'm guessing everyone in the comment loves poetry,I do too It's an art of emotions that u go through For those who don't know, thats a clue A clue to show your emotions When you write It takes awhile to learn but this UA-camr's right Just take Ur time,and u might.. U might become the world's famouse writer
I write poems and I have compilation but don't have a chance to publish it. One reason is, I don't have internet connection. Is there publication still accepts mailing and postage? Can I ask for your advice regarding on poetry how can I connect with you. I want to send one of my poems to you and tell me how can I improve it.
Hello Hercules, unfortunately, I no longer look at poetry for free. I will say this, there are several publications that will take mailing and postage-- they'll call it "snail mail." But I'm not so sure about which ones still do off the top of my head. From where you are in the world, is there a public library near you with internet access? That'll be a good way to get you online and searching publishers. You can also publish the work yourself :)
As a teacher I don’t think you should discourage rhyme. (I know you didn’t but you kinda did with your uncomfortable “that’s fine”)If your goal as a teacher is to make poets to be uninnovative copy/paste reprints of the current era that that’s a great way to go, but if you’re really trying to help them find their style you wouldn’t stop them from using rhyme.
I wouldn't say discouraging rhyme but I would say I'm encouraging poets that they can choose to write away from the poems they're learning in general high school/ university curricula. On the contrary, rhyming poetry inspired by an older canon can easily run the risk of reverting into copy/paste in terms of flow, meter, and form. Which IS good practice, but it can be limiting for some. In my own syllabi there are moments where we go through form but I LOOOOVE talking about how writers can break the form-- knowing the form than learning how to deconstruct it has worked wonders in the classroom. From middle schoolers up through those in grad school :)
Methinks this video points out mistakes That may with little practice be undone; A little self-awareness - all it takes To transform shitty poems into fun. *Dodges tomato*
Cheuk, I wish I could work with everyone individually! But my tips are always a great start! I'll leave my playlist here: ua-cam.com/play/PLLHmXoTVq3-BlBj6f-FEX2emaRAHBBtAM.html
I think poems can certainly have elements of rhyme in them. But often times beginners get stuck in the limerick/ abba type- style of writing-- which is okay-- but it's good for beginners to know that they can explore :)
I think for some, rhyming poems take away that mystery that comes from the way an individual can turn a line. With rhyming poems, one runs the danger of having the reader guess the line that's coming next, which takes away from the experience. I just had a conversation with a poet who writes rhyming poems fairly well and decided to break some of the rhyme schemes today because of what he thought were "cheesy turns." Which is a word Younger Me may have thrown around or definitely alluded to in this video. With time and more experience, I'd say that "cheesy" wouldn't be the word, but more appropriately, it'd be "cliche." And that feeling of 'cringe' or an 'eyeball' that someone might give can make someone say the work is "bad" while as an instructor, I'd be more inclined to call it "stale." Which still means it's fixable!
My professor some years ago also told us not to use archaic language in our poetry, and then last year I had a villanelle and a sonnet published using archaic language: One on a canto in Dante's Inferno, and the other on a character in H.G. Wells' The Invisible Man. I was paid for both poems. Yet, if your professor asks you to write using modern language, just do it! It's not worth challenging them and getting a lower grade. Save your Shakespearean flare for your personal projects, and not your assignments if your professor doesn't like it in your poetry.
A villanelle isn't the easiest thing to do! In the defense of your professor, it isn't an easy thing for students in a creative writing class (many of which aren't necessarily taking it as a requirement for a major) to do well. You may be a special case, which is a good thing! :) There's a space for everything, when people watch enough of my vids or work with me they figure that out! I'll say this-- this is probably the most sensible comments on this video. Thanks! And happy you're getting paid for your art!
Let me tell you i disagree with your concept of rhyming, some poets just like using rhyme, its just their style, yeah there are indeed people that rhyme just for the sake of many poems rhyme i should rhyme too...but turn put its more of a personal preference rather than a trendy thing
Hi Joshua, I've gotten a lot of comments about what was said about rhyming. This video was directed towards the undergraduate students I was teaching at the time as it says in my thumbnail. It was based off of the common things that they would continuously produce that would hold them back from exploring other ways to write. This was also based on a US demographic of students, also, who feel like every poem is poetry if it rhymes. I agree, some poets like to rhyme and some can do it well, though it is hard to stay away from the cliche' nature of the rhyming poem, ie the abab abba. With some practice though, I'm sure it can be done well.
@@coolpotato7633 If you are wondering my stance, I don't mind breaking regular grammar rules as long as it doesn't distract the reader from the meaning of poem. If it adds to the poem, by all means, break rules!
So, I decided literally 15 minutes ago that I want to try writing poetry. Where should I start? How does a beginner learn to write poetry properly? I don't want to just be some idiot that says he writes poetry but he really only does it as a hobby and he doesn't actually know what he's doing.
Hello! It's work for sure. The best thing to do is immerse yourself in it. Watch interviews of poets, read book reviews to pick up on the language, and find out what you like. Listen to audio books and read books, too! All kinds! The best part about being a beginner is that all you have to do is absorb. If you're being called to write, you will become inspired.
Haha, it is what it is, and poems are ambiguous. Maybe you have a style where it works or you aren't using old terms in excess. Sometimes there are situations where older terms work and some places like to publish poems like that, too.
All poets are beginners, on their death bed, a thousand lines published. They will be but amatures. Nothing is without merit, It is to "thee" a blasamy, when one carries a word away, simply because "thou" thinks age. Holds not value. after four centries, still sees them. Resurrected from the grave.
I'm a poet. Lol even if you only write one. Be true. That's the hard part. And even if only one person in the world gets it or likes it, well you suck. Just kidding. You're awesome. Keep writing. If you want to be a better writer. Write and read, and do you.
That is okay and I receive your opinion, especially the compliment about my opinions not being the standard. People appreciate this channel because I strive to not give others the standard poetry infographics and tips circulated around. And this is what poetry is about. But keep in mind that these tips are geared towards the beginners and particularly undergrads pursuing creative writing for the first time. Many people know poetry to be Shakespeare, Poe, and Frost (at least in most US school systems) and therefore they come to poetry trying to replicate this type of "poetic" song. There are ways to use archaic language and diction and I do think there is a particular space and audience for that. In the wider scope though, doing this can deter a poem that has a lot of potential as it's hard to do well.
I really appreciate your videos, however, I sense you are falling prey to the modern MFA/ literary mindset. While I understand, and mostly do agree with what you are saying (And I respect the hell outta you) I must say, as a fellow poet/writer, TOOOOOO many rules! Your "you don't have too's" are becoming gray and moving into a more "You have to" If a person desires to rhyme in a traditional meter, the poetical sentiment is achieved, and the soul is elevated from the worry of this doomed reality, that is a poem. No concern of its form should be considered in deeming it "Poetical" Too many literary magazines display resistance to any poetic form that isn't in the realm of free verse (which is ironic, because it's no longer free) I love and write mostly in free verse, but if a poem reveals itself to me in traditional/ "Poe-ish" meter and form, and corporates with me to construct a meaningful expression of myself and this world, then by God that's poetry. Please don't take this comment offensive, I love your videos and learn a lot from you. I don't have a degree and as you can probably tell, I struggle with formal grammar. However, my passion and hunger is my strength. It bothers me that publishers and literary magazines display a cold, almost snobbish disposition to traditional meter. I agree that we should not imitate (different, as you know from inspired), I don't think only TV, the internet, and cell phones are to blame for the declining number of poetry readers. I genuinely believe many people fail to be properly introduced to free verse in it's true sense. Thanks for the videos man! I say this here because of my respect for you as a writer and poet, and hope it might conjure some respectful, caring dialogue. Take care, brother!
Thank you so much for your careful response. Admittedly, I was a bit more heavy handed (and okok, maybe a bit snobbish 😵💫) here many moons ago, but this video still holds true in many aspects as a primer for a beginning writer. These days, the rules are there and I teach them. Students ca/ n take them or leave them, but should still be aware of them, y'know? All the best to you, brother!
This is totally true. But you really have to come from a place of the heart first. If you have the will to be a poet, the rest involves picking up books and engaging with the work you do. I tell everyone that the language comes with time.
He's okay. I give him is merit for what he's attributed to literature. As I read more and more, though, I realize that there isn't much new under the sun. And I'm not a classicist, but I could bet money (and I think I remember some of this from undergrad Shakespeare classes) that his templates are borrowed or inspired by his contemporaries and/or work before his.
Please stop discouraging people how they have to explain express their emotions pain happiness experience. Poets don't have to share their poems with you they share with the world and every one has their own point of views. You can't learn poetry in schools. It's from your dreams emotions experience feeling you can't get from school
What you are saying is true. One can teach all the tools of poetry to another, but you can't teach the heart, emotion, and that special magic stuff. But one also benefits from boxing themselves in, either. These were several pitfalls people walk into all the time. Though in hindsight, this younger Dimitri was a bit too on the nose, there is important permission given here with saying you don't need to commit to the usual poetry tenets.
you're right.....I love poetry but I didn't learn it in school....it came to me when I was paranoid
“...if you want to rhyme... that’s fine...” nice... 😀
Just trying to be the poet's poet. LOL!
@@DimitriReyesPoet I think that's Bob's job, isn't it?
Dimitri Reyes Poet can I rhyme every line tho
@@famoussnips1434 do it man!
@@famoussnips1434 if the poem calls for it, sure!
"I'm sorry my cats distracting"
Subscribed 😂😂😂
LOL! OMG! Had to do multiple cuts and takes. She usually sprawls seductively over my papers and makes an excessive amount of crinkly noises.
Thanks for the sub! And thanks for following me on IG!
Dimitri Reyes you're welcome! I love your content :)
I laughed because I can relate to the last one, i sometimes think I'm going to write the best poem ever...yeah, it never turns out that way lol. I'm still trying to find my style, I hope I find it.
Music Freak Lol! It is to note that I too, get bitten by the "this is awesome!" bug. It usually doesn't go over well as this usually throws me into a submissions frenzy where I try to publish poems thst are just not ready yet. This is all a part of the discipline! As for your style just keep reading and writing. You already have ine, you just haven't noticed yet!
We grieve both the living, and the dead
the memories, regrets, words unsaid
Missed chances, old friends, and books
Dreams never spoken, chances never took
Exchange blame for pain, sun and rain
Making decisions on emotions we can't even name
Canceled plans and unanswered questions
Put up walls, paint over love with December
Trying our best to relive and recapture
Things we very most likely misremember
Disconnect the dots, periods, the points in our lives
Analyze last words, thoughts and goodbyes
Deathbed confessions, and near death experiences
Longed for lives they never lived
Acting out parts never meant for them
Come out of the dark, back into the light
Take a deep breath, it will all be alright....
Wonderful! Thanks for sharing, poet!
Dimitri, i'm a poet from Perú and let me say the following: your channel is AMAZING, keep doing what you are doing, much love to you brother!
Salvador, my man! Proud that you've found your way here. I'll have more vids coming up soon. All the love and happy writing!
Since when are we "past" rhyme? We should rhyme as much as is beautiful, even if it is every other line. If you don't want to use rhyme because it comes from the past, you'll have to throw out meter, alliteration, and many other useful, timeless tools of poetry. This fear of influence and the desire to be a self-made artist, without conventions, without guides, will only produce arrogance and ghastly poetry. Imitate the masters, perfect their form first (99% of you won't because you know it is remarkably difficult), and only then step out and prove you can truly write something better and different. Otherwise your poetry will slouch into comfortable, lazy forms like free verse, and your poetry will read like everyone else's with a Tumblr "poetry" account.
I agree, rhyme as much as is beautiful, but sticking to those forms when one is dabbling in poetry may deter them from pursuing it altogether. It's hard! Generationally we have to understand that our literary sages often times learned how to read by reciting scripture, then later poetry.
I wouldn't necessarily take it as far as saying that "being passed" rhyming would make one throw away meter, alliteration and other devices that make a poem a poem. But what I am pointing out for those who are seeking help as a beginner is that there is so much out there beyond the abba rhyme scheme of a Shakespearean sonnet.
A few other points worthy of clarification:
If you watch and listen (as openly suggest you do! 😀) to my other videos, you'll notice how much I champion the idea of researching poetic influences that are a good fit. This is an organic and (very) practiced process throughout the ages. Those antiquated masters pulled from their antiquated masters, but what proceeded those were countless generations of poets that were built on the work of the generation before them. Technically, studying your contemporaries could essentially be the study of several schools of poetry.
You're right, a poet could stagnate without assistance or direction-- I've been there. And since the conception of this channel, I've experienced many poets that were lost, stumbling upon these videos in search of guidance and they're finding it.
But conversations like this can also be cleared up when poets work with poets that are figuring it out. That's why I push my Patreon account.
@@DimitriReyesPoet Actually, having your students rhyme in ABBA sonnet form would be a great start. This would get them comfortable in how to execute *skillful* rhymes. Don't further the idea that all rhymes must be of the "roses are red, violets are blue" variety. Teachable students will discover how rhyme puts out a small goal for them (created by their individual choice and imagination). Rhyme is immensely pleasing to the eye and ear, and modernist poets to modern singers know this. (Even the most creative rappers rhyme!). So why on earth would contemporary poets not also frequently use rhyme?
I feel like many folks would share your same sentiment and I see that perspective. It works. I do prefer to have poets I communicate with find their own way to things, but that's just my philosophy. As you mentioned about music, chances are that popular music as well as hip hop specifically, will have poets in inevitable contact with rhyming. Generally, it's pretty natural for us to want to rhyme even in speech. I relish in that kind of poetic development rather than the rudimentary form assignments (though I do teach those as well. Especially at the university level. Rhyme is as significant as any of the other literary devices in poetry and is still a staple in contemporary poetics.)
@The Hooded Claw Thanks for commenting. Though a rhyme isn't hard to do, a skillful and a nicely placed rhyme takes a bit more skill and finesse. If you're not a beginner, much of this video may not apply to you. If you're a poet who has been writing for awhile, you still may learn something. If you're new to writing or have been writing for awhile, it's good to know that you don't need the rhyme scheme crutch to get through a poem. Write what you want to write! www.dimitrireyespoet.com/6-beginner-poetry-mistakes/
I am a spoken-word poet branching into written poetry and in the writing workshops I've been to that have talked about rhyme talk about how repetitive rhyme schemes can lull the reader/listener because it is very monotonous. I also don't think there's any right way to create art and the way poetry is created and consumed has shifted just like any other form of art throughout history. Contemporary art doesn't require the same restrictions as classical poetry, but neither does any other form of art. By definition, poetry is "literary work in which special intensity is given to the expression of feelings and ideas by the use of distinctive style and rhythm." To be poetry, it does not have to conform to specific structures, it just has to have some sort of rhythm. I don't think there's anything wrong with making poetry more accessible to the masses instead of attempting to constrict it to only literary academics. Poetry, and all art, is for the people :)
You are helping me get out of my writing block. thanks a bunch.
Saving folx from Writer's Block one video at a time
Thank you for all your videos! You're such a great person, you really help a lot of poets out there 💕💕
Hi, you're welcome! Thank you for the kind words, that is the mission here. Let me know if there is anything else you struggle with.
I know free prose is seen to be more grown-up...but rhyming is not a lesser style. Everything has it's place, and there shouldn't be a "form hierarchy"
Agreed. There isn't only one way to write a poem and though one doesn't need to rhyme, it is a great device! Form is great too if one chooses it out of their own will to write in form. This video is giving permission to those who don't know that poetry can go beyond rhyming & formalist poetry :-)
Actually, to be clear-- I think rhyming poetry is THE mature poet's poem as well.
Literally all those reasons are why I like writing poetry
Lalo, and this is totally fine if it works for you and if you like it! This is just to let people know that you don't have to stay in that box :)
💌 Very encouraging 👍👍👍💝. Many thanks ❤❤❤💐💐💐.
Glad this helped, Bell!
Thank you! And thanks for sharing your knowledge. 🙏
No problem Jake, it's my pleasure. Keep on writing!
i always write rhymed poems, it's what i find easiest, it's what i've always done, almost like the essence of my poetry. i don't force it and do take my freedom, it just comes naturally.
is it bad to (almost) always if it comes naturally?
This is how it should be. If it's flowing naturally and you do take your freedoms, write on!
Write a poem about the cat ❤️
I should totally do that. She deserves one.
Looking at this post again, I wrote a poem about "a cat" and it was a bit under the influence of working at an animal shelter-- my fiance loved it, but I wasn't really feeling it. That bad poem helped me write other good poems, though.
Just reading how you answer and reply to everyone's comments in an open free flowing way. Made me subscribe. I feel that says a lot about who you are and your character. I have been writing poems for a while but I am always keen to learn and to keep on learning.
Lee, thank you SO MUCH for this comment. I appreciate you as a subscriber, commenter, and a poet! This is a safe space. Happy writing!
That's part of the chase is to find the words your looking 4 and make them flow and rhyme!
It can be. If the words are faster than you, this is the video that tells you that it's okay to let it get away. The rhyme will work in another piece :)
After a long time writing poetry, I've finally started rhyming. t's a different world. I tend to agree with Dimitri that beginning poets shouldn't obsess over it, and that it isn't necessary. But I also think I'm seeing that the reluctance toward rhyme is going to be increasingly seen as a "20th Century thing." Hip-hop has taken the Hoary Auld Auldness From Days Of Yore feeling rhyme used to have.
When people know, they know! And surely Todd, you're in the know. I see myself returning to rhyme, too, as time goes on. It's seen in all of my most recent spoken word videos (that yes, borrow from hip hop heavily! Where they borrow from 'ye olde ryeming' heavier!)
I will say this and I stick to it-- when starting out, it's nice to pay attention to it, but it isn't the end-all, nor should it be a failsafe. "Write the poem, and rhyme will come."
@@DimitriReyesPoet I'd say free verse : rhyme & meter :: engine propulsion : sailing.
@@toddjacksonpoetry Sounds about right!
Can you make a vid on some poems you made😊
Hahaha! Okay, I can do that.
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Thanks sir.
You're welcome Sourav!
UA-cam suggested this to me. Thanks UA-cam. Subbed. 🌞
Yessss! Thanks so much for finding me and subbing!
Hey there!!! Great page. I only have an associates in Liberal arts in science but I want to get into freelance work. I've been writing for years but don't know how to start
Hello! The first thing I tell people when they want to freelance is to make sure that they are continuously writing. If you are doing that you are in good shape.
Next, I would ask you what type of freelance writing you are looking to do. Do you want to write informational articles? More along the lines of editorials? Marketing and advertising? Or something even more creative? Like fiction, poetry, etc?
@@DimitriReyesPoet HEY! thanks for the response!!!... I was thinking more on the creative side. A few biblical messages, I written. I write poetry as well and looking to write a screen play...
@@brookbeck8102No worries, this is all great stuff. Have you seen my 10 Ways to Get Involved as a Poet video? That would be a step in the right direction. This will get you accustomed to keeping your ear to the ground for opportunities involving learning how to develop a screen play or places to share your poetry.
Also, if you attend church, that'd be a perfect place to start reciting your biblical messages. I have some friends and colleagues who combine spoken work with THE WORD.
@@DimitriReyesPoet wow thanks!!! Very much! Heading over to the video now!
@@brookbeck8102 Wow, I'm just now seeing this comment! I hope it was helpful. If you are still interested in generating new material, my patreon page has been updated and my goal is to have an online literary community writing a new poem every week. You can watch that video here: ua-cam.com/video/W0NKYKVyBLE/v-deo.html
A lot of my inspiration comes from Charles bukowski, he's not liked by everyone but his words touch me the most and I strive to write like him, not necessarily copying him. You can be poetic by incorporating a lot of deep metaphors and vivid imagery, not just rhyming. People get offended if you say rhyming is true form of poetry or free verse is lazy.... but at the end of the day, do what works for you and that you love it. Rhyming is still good practice but not a necessity... if you hate doing it, then don't do it, the last thing you want is to be discouraged from any part of writing. It's very fascinating to see a bunch of egotistical jackasses try to dictate which form is inferior these days.
I got a spot for Bukowski. As a matter of fact, one of my poetry friends really likes Bukowski and favors him in his writing pursuits, too. There's a great article about him I read recently, too. If only we can all have that 1 patron that'll pay us to write for the rest of our lives-- that'd be great!
And yeah, "the writing industry" is a sentence within itself. But the tides (and times) are changing. I can see the direction of so many poets through their conversations and their works and it's a bright future.
My problem is I’m not sure I’m even writing poetry. Which seems a bit common in what I read as well
My question is does it 'feel' like a poem? And furthermore, can you argue it's a poem? At least even a little? If it waddles like a poem and quacks like a poem... ;-)
I prefer rhyme. It seems more authentic.
That's fine, too.
Agreed 🙈
A very interesting and informative interview! Congratulations!
Thank you, Reinaldo. Let me know if you have any questions.
Dude is still responding to comments even after 4 years
Gandalf, it’s an honor! I respond to about 95% of them. The other ones get lost somewhere in the depths of Mordor 🧙🏽♂️⚔️🧝🏽♂️🏰
Write towards clarity.
Yes! This needs to be in a future video! Write. For. Your. Audience. To. Understand. You! It's very simple, but overlooked for sure. Thanks!
@@DimitriReyesPoet Thanks for the videos. I'm currently reading Ted Kooser's work. He advocates a lot for clarity and simplicity in poems, especially work from beginners. Myself, I'm trying to follow the rule that the idea is king - that language is, foremost, only the vehicle for the ideas. It doesn't matter how flowery and 'poetic' the language is - if the idea is crap or just isn't there, it's as good as worthless.
So yeah, write towards an idea, develop it, and whittle it down to its most powerful, concentrated core.
@@happymaskedguy1943 Hi Andrew. Totally agree with your summation in the last line. Though as an educator and pretty open human, I have a moral obligation to myself-- I wouldn't call a piece of writing worthless :-) Usually there's at least an idea, a line or even a good few words that can come out of it. And I usually use those gems in the "dead poems" to reinvigorate something else I'm working on.
Happy writing!
so good bro, i still write poetry right on my channel
Thank you, and nice! Happy writing, poet!
Thanks heaps for this. 😊
No problem!
I'm guessing everyone in the comment loves poetry,I do too
It's an art of emotions that u go through
For those who don't know, thats a clue
A clue to show your emotions
When you write
It takes awhile to learn but this UA-camr's right
Just take Ur time,and u might..
U might become the world's famouse writer
Thank you so much for these words Jamil. Blessings!
I write poems and I have compilation but don't have a chance to publish it. One reason is, I don't have internet connection. Is there publication still accepts mailing and postage? Can I ask for your advice regarding on poetry how can I connect with you. I want to send one of my poems to you and tell me how can I improve it.
Hello Hercules, unfortunately, I no longer look at poetry for free. I will say this, there are several publications that will take mailing and postage-- they'll call it "snail mail." But I'm not so sure about which ones still do off the top of my head. From where you are in the world, is there a public library near you with internet access? That'll be a good way to get you online and searching publishers.
You can also publish the work yourself :)
As a teacher I don’t think you should discourage rhyme. (I know you didn’t but you kinda did with your uncomfortable “that’s fine”)If your goal as a teacher is to make poets to be uninnovative copy/paste reprints of the current era that that’s a great way to go, but if you’re really trying to help them find their style you wouldn’t stop them from using rhyme.
I wouldn't say discouraging rhyme but I would say I'm encouraging poets that they can choose to write away from the poems they're learning in general high school/ university curricula. On the contrary, rhyming poetry inspired by an older canon can easily run the risk of reverting into copy/paste in terms of flow, meter, and form. Which IS good practice, but it can be limiting for some. In my own syllabi there are moments where we go through form but I LOOOOVE talking about how writers can break the form-- knowing the form than learning how to deconstruct it has worked wonders in the classroom. From middle schoolers up through those in grad school :)
Methinks this video points out mistakes
That may with little practice be undone;
A little self-awareness - all it takes
To transform shitty poems into fun.
*Dodges tomato*
LOL thank you for this!
Wow, what an amazing teacher, poet, and person!
Elizabeth Barahona Thanks Lizzie! You're starting to sound like Antonio 😁
Awww! Hehehe!
great video.
Thanks Gerry!
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Thanks Jordanish!
The moment you were distracted by your cat I subscribed
She's in the way All. The. Time! Thanks for the sub!
i wish you could be my poetry teacher
Cheuk, I wish I could work with everyone individually! But my tips are always a great start! I'll leave my playlist here:
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Poetry (songs) book of Satan by Dr Zaid Kasim Ghazzawi.😍😊
There are few books I won't read. I'm intrigued on why you like this one so much.
i disagree poems rhyme andfreeverse has a flow a messure and melody. so poems have to rhyme
I think poems can certainly have elements of rhyme in them. But often times beginners get stuck in the limerick/ abba type- style of writing-- which is okay-- but it's good for beginners to know that they can explore :)
Why people hate fully rhyming poems. I don't get it.
I think for some, rhyming poems take away that mystery that comes from the way an individual can turn a line. With rhyming poems, one runs the danger of having the reader guess the line that's coming next, which takes away from the experience. I just had a conversation with a poet who writes rhyming poems fairly well and decided to break some of the rhyme schemes today because of what he thought were "cheesy turns." Which is a word Younger Me may have thrown around or definitely alluded to in this video. With time and more experience, I'd say that "cheesy" wouldn't be the word, but more appropriately, it'd be "cliche." And that feeling of 'cringe' or an 'eyeball' that someone might give can make someone say the work is "bad" while as an instructor, I'd be more inclined to call it "stale." Which still means it's fixable!
My professor some years ago also told us not to use archaic language in our poetry, and then last year I had a villanelle and a sonnet published using archaic language: One on a canto in Dante's Inferno, and the other on a character in H.G. Wells' The Invisible Man. I was paid for both poems. Yet, if your professor asks you to write using modern language, just do it! It's not worth challenging them and getting a lower grade. Save your Shakespearean flare for your personal projects, and not your assignments if your professor doesn't like it in your poetry.
A villanelle isn't the easiest thing to do! In the defense of your professor, it isn't an easy thing for students in a creative writing class (many of which aren't necessarily taking it as a requirement for a major) to do well. You may be a special case, which is a good thing! :)
There's a space for everything, when people watch enough of my vids or work with me they figure that out! I'll say this-- this is probably the most sensible comments on this video. Thanks! And happy you're getting paid for your art!
Let me tell you i disagree with your concept of rhyming, some poets just like using rhyme, its just their style, yeah there are indeed people that rhyme just for the sake of many poems rhyme i should rhyme too...but turn put its more of a personal preference rather than a trendy thing
Hi Joshua, I've gotten a lot of comments about what was said about rhyming.
This video was directed towards the undergraduate students I was teaching at the time as it says in my thumbnail. It was based off of the common things that they would continuously produce that would hold them back from exploring other ways to write. This was also based on a US demographic of students, also, who feel like every poem is poetry if it rhymes.
I agree, some poets like to rhyme and some can do it well, though it is hard to stay away from the cliche' nature of the rhyming poem, ie the abab abba. With some practice though, I'm sure it can be done well.
Grammar (or the lack thereof) drives me nuts and writers who don't use them. That is the largest and most common mistake by far.
Edit, edit, edit. It makes a poem a VIP (very important poem)
Dimitri Reyes Poet huh good or bad
@@coolpotato7633 If you are wondering my stance, I don't mind breaking regular grammar rules as long as it doesn't distract the reader from the meaning of poem. If it adds to the poem, by all means, break rules!
Looking for some extra tips? Check one of these never vids out:
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Great stuff thanks for the tips lad, brilliant.
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So, I decided literally 15 minutes ago that I want to try writing poetry. Where should I start? How does a beginner learn to write poetry properly? I don't want to just be some idiot that says he writes poetry but he really only does it as a hobby and he doesn't actually know what he's doing.
Hello! It's work for sure. The best thing to do is immerse yourself in it. Watch interviews of poets, read book reviews to pick up on the language, and find out what you like. Listen to audio books and read books, too! All kinds! The best part about being a beginner is that all you have to do is absorb. If you're being called to write, you will become inspired.
It's art, there's no wrong or right. Just start, see where it takes you
@@hugodelacroix3076 I like this answer too. Your art is your art.
I like using old terms haha
Haha, it is what it is, and poems are ambiguous. Maybe you have a style where it works or you aren't using old terms in excess. Sometimes there are situations where older terms work and some places like to publish poems like that, too.
Discover poetry & songs from Dr Zaid Kasim Ghazzawi.😊
Send me a link to his work :)
@@DimitriReyesPoet Poetry (songs) book of Satan. By Dr. Zaid Kasim Ghazzawi.🤗
All poets are beginners, on their death bed, a thousand lines published. They will be but amatures. Nothing is without merit, It is to "thee" a blasamy, when one carries a word away, simply because "thou" thinks age. Holds not value. after four centries, still sees them. Resurrected from the grave.
Nicely said. I agree, artists are in a constant state of learning. One is always the student!
I'm a poet. Lol even if you only write one. Be true. That's the hard part. And even if only one person in the world gets it or likes it, well you suck. Just kidding. You're awesome. Keep writing. If you want to be a better writer. Write and read, and do you.
Lol. Cody, thank you for these words. This is true, owning it is the hardest part. Peace and poet on
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I love that part!
Don’t agree art can use old words if everyone did the same art wouldn’t be art, all is needed and loved by someone, your opinions are not the standard
That is okay and I receive your opinion, especially the compliment about my opinions not being the standard. People appreciate this channel because I strive to not give others the standard poetry infographics and tips circulated around. And this is what poetry is about.
But keep in mind that these tips are geared towards the beginners and particularly undergrads pursuing creative writing for the first time. Many people know poetry to be Shakespeare, Poe, and Frost (at least in most US school systems) and therefore they come to poetry trying to replicate this type of "poetic" song.
There are ways to use archaic language and diction and I do think there is a particular space and audience for that. In the wider scope though, doing this can deter a poem that has a lot of potential as it's hard to do well.
Dimitri Reyes Poet I hear ya 👍🏻
I really appreciate your videos, however, I sense you are falling prey to the modern MFA/ literary mindset. While I understand, and mostly do agree with what you are saying (And I respect the hell outta you) I must say, as a fellow poet/writer, TOOOOOO many rules!
Your "you don't have too's" are becoming gray and moving into a more "You have to"
If a person desires to rhyme in a traditional meter, the poetical sentiment is achieved, and the soul is elevated from the worry of this doomed reality, that is a poem. No concern of its form should be considered in deeming it "Poetical" Too many literary magazines display resistance to any poetic form that isn't in the realm of free verse (which is ironic, because it's no longer free) I love and write mostly in free verse, but if a poem reveals itself to me in traditional/ "Poe-ish" meter and form, and corporates with me to construct a meaningful expression of myself and this world, then by God that's poetry.
Please don't take this comment offensive, I love your videos and learn a lot from you. I don't have a degree and as you can probably tell, I struggle with formal grammar. However, my passion and hunger is my strength. It bothers me that publishers and literary magazines display a cold, almost snobbish disposition to traditional meter. I agree that we should not imitate (different, as you know from inspired), I don't think only TV, the internet, and cell phones are to blame for the declining number of poetry readers. I genuinely believe many people fail to be properly introduced to free verse in it's true sense.
Thanks for the videos man! I say this here because of my respect for you as a writer and poet, and hope it might conjure some respectful, caring dialogue. Take care, brother!
Thank you so much for your careful response. Admittedly, I was a bit more heavy handed (and okok, maybe a bit snobbish 😵💫) here many moons ago, but this video still holds true in many aspects as a primer for a beginning writer. These days, the rules are there and I teach them. Students ca/ n take them or leave them, but should still be aware of them, y'know?
All the best to you, brother!
Lusty poems 0/10 lol
Yes, many lusty poems go South quickly. I've heard a few good ones at open readings.
I’m sorry but this man has no idea what he’s talking about
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What exactly makes you think you are a poet? You need to at least learn the language before you start fooling yourself that you are a poet.
This is totally true. But you really have to come from a place of the heart first. If you have the will to be a poet, the rest involves picking up books and engaging with the work you do. I tell everyone that the language comes with time.
mistake numer 7: don't listen to advices from unknown or bad poets
Couldn't agree more.
I never liked Shakespeare.
Shakespeare is not as good as the Europeans make him out to be.
He's okay. I give him is merit for what he's attributed to literature. As I read more and more, though, I realize that there isn't much new under the sun. And I'm not a classicist, but I could bet money (and I think I remember some of this from undergrad Shakespeare classes) that his templates are borrowed or inspired by his contemporaries and/or work before his.