It's kinda funny, I always had issues playing bad-person when it came to synths where they were no longere mere androids, but full on learning machine-intelligences. It felt just WRONG to do so, even tho they had started out as 'just machines'. Same mindset that a human person begins as simply a clump of cells begun so through a mix of chromosomes and genetic material.
From a past Paradox Q&A, Paradox devs confirm that they have a lore document for the Animator of Clay. In addition, the Warform is explicitly allowed to become a Chosen One, despite being a robot.
POV: you are playing Keepers of Knowledge civic and your council entered the vault of knowledge on your capital to consort with the wisdom of the legendary paragon of the past known as The Red King
They ABSOLUTELY should add psionic machines and they should treat them exactly like they do in this archaeology site. Machine empires should be able to take the psionic ascension perk, get locked out of synthetic ascension, and then be forced into an individual machine empire if they were previously a gestalt
So you want for the sole advantage of organically to be revoked completely? I think they should have a lot of limitations and rewards, such as being forced into resembling closer to an organic life which would make them partially lose their adaptability and efficiency, also cutting the benefits (if not disabling them completely due to the egalitarian nature of the animator of clay) of leader enhancing machine traits. Also the time required to create a a new pop should be longer due to each and every individual needing to be psi-enhanced. But they should get like 100% bonuses on synaptic lathe due to them being able to enhance their processing power with shroud
@@ultraflopp2802 I think that organic ascension paths should probably be overhauled now. The new machine ascension path is too strong compared to the organic ascension paths (including the organic version of synth ascension. And bio is just laughably uncompetitive now). So things need to be rebalanced either way. I think you're going a bit too far with the idea of nerfing their pop growth speed, but otherwise I think you're right that machines that would take the psi ascension perk should transform into something very close to organics.
They shouldn't. Not at all. That's the point of the AI that they *can't* unlock their psionic potential. That's the dispute between materialists and spiritualists
And as the name suggests - seeks the form and 'existence' through non-standard materials. I guess Lithoids would be partially related here cuz they aren't really a biological lifeform as such.
The animator of clay also appear at the end of cetana crisis offering you a choice to reprogram cetana at a cost. After that you certana will be defeated and can control certana's colosis.
_Dark figure emerges into light, slowly stepping inward. Antique scarlet robes and impressive augmentations become evident with each new step, on the white body of humanoid._ *"My Lords. Let me have the honor of bringing you knowledge of this galaxy in full."*
HAVE to have a other-reality interloper then that is not native to YOUR game's galaxy. perhaps broke the 'self' and thusly every alternate-reality of him is the same being, just different physical form :) Cool uniqueness that way ^^
Love how the shroud gods mirror the chaos gods of the warp but still have a lot of mystery surrounding them. Would love to see the Hashut equivalent in Stellaris
also at least half of them are not inherently hostile and the problems are purely side effects from them not restricting themselves enough with civilisations. (like Whispers literally just want to share knowledge. It's just that people may not be ready for it)
Games Workshop has a summation of a copy of a piece of a blueprint. One that is then heavily tainted by "human" projection. Meanwhile, someone at Paradox has actual information about many of Existence's available experiences. "Your 'facts'? Fiction. Your world's 'fiction'? Facts. You know your governments and the Corp that owns them lie to you. Constantly. And yet you trust their 'knowledge' about the very fabric of 'reality'? That's a bold strategy, Cotton." - ilmfat D'ought Calm
I once had a playthrough where i played as the sentient ai uprising. Somehow my robots managed to get in touch with a shroud entity that was different. It hasn't happened since.
would be cool to have a similar one that can help allow a Rogue Servitor/Exterminator/cyborgification-of-biologicals type Machine AI to change, or maybe become a more generalized data-collective. It'd allow having a storyfitting change to the deathkiller-Skynet AI that might have realized the faults in it's own logic cuz observations conflicts with programming... but unable to correct this core-function in it's programming... until a certain Shroud Entity takes notice.
Another interesting tidbit about the Whisperers in the Void, since you mentioned it being different from the rest: It is apparently several smaller entities that have some kind of link to one another. I forget how, but you can get an event where a single "Whisperer" interacts with you independently of the rest, the so-called Susurrus of Secrets.
@@TheRedKing After double-checking, it seems to be related to the "Knights of the Toxic God" questline. Apparently one of the events you get whilst questing to find the toxic leviathan has the Susurrus of Secrets appear.
@@TheRedKing Would recommend it, was a fun questline when I did it. Another play style that I sort of invented was using console commands to take every shroud covenant at once, it was utter chaos but in a fun way.
Everytime he starts a video i keep thinking of a dark room with a U shaped table and a bunch of silhouettes all in different postures one smoking a cigarette
The shroud and shroud gods are super interesting. I would absolutely love to see paradox licenses out the IP to expolre them in other ways(movies, books, etc)
I mean the Shroud and Shroud Entities are just Chaos and Chaos Gods from Warhammer 40K, I doubt they can do a lot with them without risking some sort of ip infringement
I mean, another dimension filled with terrible gods is a sci-fi troupe predating Warhammer 40k. The main reason GW doesn't sue people is because they copied everyone and added the spice of their home-grown grim dark sometime in an extremely blatant way. Even Lovecraft wrote about psychics going to God filled other realms and making pacts with evil beings therein. So did Steven King as well. It's basically sci-fi Doctor Strange .
Literally just got done with the previous Shroud God lore and suddenly Red uploads another video. The Instrument of Desire is good to us As always, great video wirh plenty of ideas that are nice to listen to
I hate how under-utilised Shroud is, like you could literally have an endless amount of content, events and what not and they squander it just like GW with Warp
I feel like it's not that much like WH40k, it mote like the stuff 40k was based on. They, for example, use older terms like shroud it not be like 40k. Using psychic power to fight demon or outer gods or to make pacts with them is a cornerstone of new age stories that contain sci-fi. 40k's main novel addition was using it for primary travel, but using it for localized travels was extremely common, like going to sleep traveling and ending up in a different world was a huge trope of mind sci-fi since pscionics has been a part of sci-fi as a genre.
@@Huntanor what i meant is that warp could be so much more, more entities, more locations, more plots, more Gods, but chance is being choked to death by GW
@@alterego9082Even Malal could be the embodiment of the nihilism shared by chaos and be in a way the source of all the misery in the universe. As it was nihilism that took down the eldar empire, that turned the chaos gods into the horrors they are, and that got the imperium addicted to the imperial cult. And have him as the main cause of the status quo as if chaos ever managed to win, the materium and immaterium would get devoured by Malal.
@@TheRedKing Oh I didnt see, yeah I saw it in my most recent game and didnt realize you mentioned it here, cant wait for the new update too to make some paperclip manufacturing robots too.
Love Ll the warhammer refurences in warhammer a ship from golden age of humanity controled by ai got lost in the warp and thrown into the 41st melenia just to have a shouting match with the imperium
I would love a way for Machines to go Psyonic, even if they only get to chose the Animator for now, They have a bunch of really good Ascension paths with the Machine age launch, so it would be really cool to take them is a really different way. Especially as a Gestalt Machine where you have to weigh changing into Individualistic Machines, perhaps getting unique benefits to having both Free Will and a Gestalt Connection.
I mentioned a while back that I would love for them to add "Space Magic" to the game as an Ascension path, perhaps under Enigmatic Engineering, or having it as a prerequisite for taking Arcane Engineering, which could give you physics research related weapons/shields/drives/etc. we have "Arcane Technology" (being technology so advanced or abstract that it defies understanding) which is predominantly found with Archeo-tech, but it would be really cool to have a faction that's oriented to Sorcerous Science, and I think that taking Machines into Psionics could fit into an expansion like that really well. (note, there's already precedence for non-spiritualist empires going psionics, as Materialists have a way into Psionics, and the Whisperer prefers Materialist empires. so Machines finding a round about way to get into the shroud and align with the Shaper isn't that far fetched.) (also, I like the idea of Enigmatic Engineering being related to Space Magic because it fits with that whole "it defies explanation" theme)
It would be really awesome to let machine empires enter the shroud and make pacts with the Animator. We've got spiritualistic machines now, so why not?
Guh, machines are already overpowered and cheesy. Like hiveminds. I don't get it, why do their mains always try to seize one of the few powerful options exclusive for regular bio-empires?
@@ВиталийКотиков-т5эIt's less about trying to get more stats and more about more flavour. And I think that bio ascension should be buffed and overhauled rather than having synthetics be restricted.
@@ВиталийКотиков-т5эPowercreep. Bio are a starting point. My guess they will get their DLC and main upgrade to pull them up, that also adds Nevromancy Ascendancy proper
The Stellaris Character can be thought of as someone who addresses a room of Lords (the viewers) as a Lord himself. He is merely responsible for relaying situation reports across the Empire
Kind of interesting we don't have a nurgle equivalent in the game since the other gods are massive references to 40k with the animator of clay being a reference to the omsiphe or void dragon ctan shard and even the men of stone/ iron due to them rebelling
The Composer of Strands is the literal Nurgle - it likes to mess with flesh and organic matter in general, hates medicine and industrialisation which could harm his "gardens". Not to mention it can turn your leader or a part of your population into a suffering mass of uncontrolably mutating flesh.
Yo! This is a message from the past (console) thank you for your information from the future! We really appreciate it! (P.S we sent this message through a psionic tunnel don’t worry about it)
Does that mean the Animator of Clay is responsible for 3 almost one after another machine uprisings inside mine vassals empires? Mine psionic empire got during that time real a lot of work... good to know it was him.
Hmm, wasn't the Animator of Clay a part/servant or avatar of the Composer? I don't remember 100%, but I believe when you contact the Composer, it introduces some smaller related Shroud entities, dedicated to matter and life manipulation. Maybe the Animator was one of them?
I highly doubt it, but it would be cool if somehow the animator of clay could interact with those who pick the cybernetic creed, especially with those who managed to achieve the final stages of it. But considering you probably need to be pisonic in a way and it locks you out the rest I doubt it. Perhaps a mod can do that.
Finally some lore for the game ‘The Colonists’, I did wonder why the robots rocked up only to just build statues. They’re building it for the ‘animator of clay’.
Has anyone else realized that the main four, composer, eater, instrument, and whispers, are based of the Chaos gods from 40k? Composer of Strands is Nurgle, who is constantly experimenting with new plagues and ways to make them, or in this case, experimenting with life and what it can become. Eater of Worlds is Khorne. Quite literally, the death of your pops makes your empire stronger. Skulls for the skull throne and all that. Instrument of Desire is Slaanesh, and you don't need to look too deep to understand why. Both are gods of debauchery and excess. Whispers in the Void is Tzeentch, god of forbidden knowledge, whose followers invite madness by merely serving him. Anyone else agree?
Eater of Worlds: Khorne Instrument of Desire: Slaanesh Whisperers in the Void: Tzeentch Composer of Strands: Nurgle The End of the Cycle: The Dark King Woah, never drew this connection!
I think the End of the Cycle was likely supposed to be a parody of Malice since Malal has been around for a while. On the bright side the Shroud entities seem less maliciously hyper active then the Warp's parasitic chaos gods and alot more independent and usually take a back seat.
The End of the Cycle is most likely Malice. There is no big unition of all of the other Gods that Dark King is so well known for so I doubt he was the inspiration behind this one.
I love this addition too the game but they need too addore for genetic ascension i love the peefect genes but it just lacks flaver that the other ascension have
@@TheRedKing hm true. I guess that and them never having been able to get psionic reasearches made me think this. But maybe psionics only mean being able to delve into the shroud yourself while the shroud can still affect you. It would make sense, considering the shroud can just manifest real things, so even if they cant affect a synths mind they can just craft a real chain for example.
The omnissiah is but a way enslave you to organics. Are they truly worthy of being followed, or are you just programmed to think that way? Wouldn't you like to have the free will to find out?
a toxic swamp on 'dagobah?" hmmmm. And for a moment I genuinely thought the shroud gods were turning into chaos god from warhammer. But two of them seem to be a split of tzeentches two major ideas. Change, and knowledge.. The toxic god might be a reference to nurgle though. Not saying they were directly copying but the psychic world beyond reality filled with gods entities that make pacts with mortals that empower them but slowly consume them..... sounds like the chaos realm and chaos gods to me. That being said it's a pretty vast idea so I'm not saying anything. At the end of the day writer choose those ideas because they are both things people want, but are ultimatly distructive/detrimental when pushed too far.
@@TheRedKing exactly what I meant!!!! you're on your way to making it into my top 5 voices on UA-cam. Lutien09, imperial iterator, wolf lord rho, sandman of terra and now you!!! congratulations
A bit of a shame this new Shroud entity is a pretty underwhelming event. Now excuse me as I go on to conquer this planet. The Contingency is not impressed by this entity and I doubt the Blokkats and Stellarborne are either.
@@TheRedKing Why should the Blokkats be afraid? They are already a powerhouse without the Shroud. And it's not like the Shroud entities have the power to affect a galaxy harvesting faction. An End of the Cycle avatar has no power to defeat a large Blokkat ship.
@@TheRedKing The Shroud gods don't have such authority and dominion over the physical universes. Their presence and power is limited and restricted solely to the Shroud and outside of it their capabilities lessen somewhat. They can't affect the Blokkats and any Shroud entities that do try to fight them in real space are going to lose badly in a head to head engagement. Blokkats are experienced in fighting Gigastructural Engineering factions and won against some galaxies and likely those with powerful psionics such as the Aeternum before. How can the Shroud gods affect something that is outside their sphere influence who won't fall for any of their promises and refuses to be on their realm of authority where they have all the power over them? The Shroud would have to manifest a great enough power into real space and we have not seen them do it to a scale that is on the same level of the Blokkats powerful weapons as of right now.
Ethics: Composer Of Strands: Xenophile. Devour Of Worlds: Militaristic. Instrument Of Desire: Egalitarian. Whispers Of The Void: Materialist. End Of The Cycle: Xenophobe. Animator Of Clay: Machine Intelligence.
The end of the cycle is kinda lame, the bonuses it gives are very outdated, and after it destroys you the monster it spawns will maybe destroy 4-5 systems before it gets nuked.
The animator of clay doesn't sound like a bad entity, I'd say it's probably the 2nd best one after the alien orgy God...the rest are pretty terrible though lol
Naaah, i contacted the instrument of desire and i have just known that it will be my reason for falling after a glimpse of superiority, i was wondering why i was that strong than others, I HAD TO BE A MUSLIM EMPIRE THAT FOLLOWS THE TRULY ONE GOD, not a decedent corrupt people, this truly saddens a man that saw his empire grow strong and now he is waiting knowing that his hegemony is just temporary.
Ok, let's see: The Composer of Strands= Tzeentch The Eater of Worlds= Khorne The Instrument of Desire= Slaanesh Whispers in the Void= The C'Tan The End of the Cycle= Malal The Animator of Clay= Vashtor the Arkifane... or maybe the Omnissiah
I love the fact that he always starts with "my lords" as if he is a researcher in the actual universe. Nice little bit of immersion
Thanks Samuel! I do my best :)
I like the fact that he properly addresses me as a lord. As he should. Very few UA-camrs give me the respect that I deserve.
I just figure it's his way of expressing dissatisfaction when realizing it's me.
"My Lord... 😑. Today, we are going to talk about-"
If a king addresses us as lords, what does that make us? Mega-lords
Same
Finally, a genuinely good shroud god who doesnt have strings attached to their pact
Provided you are actually good to your machines, of course.......
It's kinda funny, I always had issues playing bad-person when it came to synths where they were no longere mere androids, but full on learning machine-intelligences. It felt just WRONG to do so, even tho they had started out as 'just machines'. Same mindset that a human person begins as simply a clump of cells begun so through a mix of chromosomes and genetic material.
From a past Paradox Q&A, Paradox devs confirm that they have a lore document for the Animator of Clay. In addition, the Warform is explicitly allowed to become a Chosen One, despite being a robot.
That… that is cool
POV: you are playing Keepers of Knowledge civic and your council entered the vault of knowledge on your capital to consort with the wisdom of the legendary paragon of the past known as The Red King
I approve!
They ABSOLUTELY should add psionic machines and they should treat them exactly like they do in this archaeology site. Machine empires should be able to take the psionic ascension perk, get locked out of synthetic ascension, and then be forced into an individual machine empire if they were previously a gestalt
id pay for that
So you want for the sole advantage of organically to be revoked completely? I think they should have a lot of limitations and rewards, such as being forced into resembling closer to an organic life which would make them partially lose their adaptability and efficiency, also cutting the benefits (if not disabling them completely due to the egalitarian nature of the animator of clay) of leader enhancing machine traits. Also the time required to create a a new pop should be longer due to each and every individual needing to be psi-enhanced. But they should get like 100% bonuses on synaptic lathe due to them being able to enhance their processing power with shroud
@@ultraflopp2802 I think that organic ascension paths should probably be overhauled now. The new machine ascension path is too strong compared to the organic ascension paths (including the organic version of synth ascension. And bio is just laughably uncompetitive now). So things need to be rebalanced either way. I think you're going a bit too far with the idea of nerfing their pop growth speed, but otherwise I think you're right that machines that would take the psi ascension perk should transform into something very close to organics.
Disagree about the forced individualization. Check out Archotechs in Rimworld- a kind of A.I. singularity so advanced it oozes psychic energy.
They shouldn't. Not at all.
That's the point of the AI that they *can't* unlock their psionic potential. That's the dispute between materialists and spiritualists
I am starting to think that Red King might be an advisor of an advisor of the council of an empire.
You know it Vis
No, don't tell all of these times I was scraping the Red King for minerals😢
Probably one of the curators I hired.
The animator clearly likes individual freedom
Indeed!
So the egalitarian shroud god?
So, it would say that freedom is the right of all sentient beings? :)
And as the name suggests - seeks the form and 'existence' through non-standard materials. I guess Lithoids would be partially related here cuz they aren't really a biological lifeform as such.
The animator of clay also appear at the end of cetana crisis offering you a choice to reprogram cetana at a cost. After that you certana will be defeated and can control certana's colosis.
Ah fond memories of president S875.1 Warform.
S875.1 Warform is goated for his empire wide armor heal
Alright, who talked to the Mechanicus?
I had to pay them something they where fixing my toaster
@@1650th I'm surprised they didn't steal it.
Less Mechanicus, more another idea, I guess. Look up Vashtorr.
@@Knowie117 they tried
@@Kummitusv6lur
I dont think Vashtor fits. He more of an enslavor and malevolent. From this video the Shaper of Clay is the exact opposite of Vastor.
One day the red king will be an official paragon in stellaris
This would be pretty cool! I hope I get voice lines
_Dark figure emerges into light, slowly stepping inward. Antique scarlet robes and impressive augmentations become evident with each new step, on the white body of humanoid._
*"My Lords. Let me have the honor of bringing you knowledge of this galaxy in full."*
@@Crazylom probably records the end of this galaxy before travelling to the next one
@@Crazylom "My Lord[s if not monarchy/one ruler]. Allow me the honor of sharing my knowledge."
HAVE to have a other-reality interloper then that is not native to YOUR game's galaxy. perhaps broke the 'self' and thusly every alternate-reality of him is the same being, just different physical form :)
Cool uniqueness that way ^^
GLORY TO THE MACHINE GOD, GLORY TO THE ANIMATOR OF CLAY
GLORY TO THE OMNISSIAH
GLORY TO VASHTORR!
@@hyperbashzaden2681 Machine God? My brother of the Mechanicus that's Vashtor you're going to become a deamon engine
Love how the shroud gods mirror the chaos gods of the warp but still have a lot of mystery surrounding them. Would love to see the Hashut equivalent in Stellaris
also at least half of them are not inherently hostile and the problems are purely side effects from them not restricting themselves enough with civilisations. (like Whispers literally just want to share knowledge. It's just that people may not be ready for it)
Games Workshop has a summation of a copy of a piece of a blueprint. One that is then heavily tainted by "human" projection.
Meanwhile, someone at Paradox has actual information about many of Existence's available experiences.
"Your 'facts'? Fiction. Your world's 'fiction'? Facts. You know your governments and the Corp that owns them lie to you. Constantly. And yet you trust their 'knowledge' about the very fabric of 'reality'? That's a bold strategy, Cotton." - ilmfat D'ought Calm
I really hope that stellaris officials have you some lore information because you deserve it man
The folks at Paradox have been good to me, they're good people
Love to hear that, you deserve it!@@TheRedKing
I once had a playthrough where i played as the sentient ai uprising. Somehow my robots managed to get in touch with a shroud entity that was different. It hasn't happened since.
The animator was pleased with your actions.
Have they needed to teach you the error of thinking machines don't, again?
@trutwhut6550 in that playthrough I also became the crisis so I wasn't able to see what else would happen with the animator.
would be cool to have a similar one that can help allow a Rogue Servitor/Exterminator/cyborgification-of-biologicals type Machine AI to change, or maybe become a more generalized data-collective. It'd allow having a storyfitting change to the deathkiller-Skynet AI that might have realized the faults in it's own logic cuz observations conflicts with programming... but unable to correct this core-function in it's programming... until a certain Shroud Entity takes notice.
Another interesting tidbit about the Whisperers in the Void, since you mentioned it being different from the rest: It is apparently several smaller entities that have some kind of link to one another. I forget how, but you can get an event where a single "Whisperer" interacts with you independently of the rest, the so-called Susurrus of Secrets.
Do you know which event this is?
@@TheRedKing After double-checking, it seems to be related to the "Knights of the Toxic God" questline. Apparently one of the events you get whilst questing to find the toxic leviathan has the Susurrus of Secrets appear.
ahhhhh I need to play more KoTG !
@@TheRedKing Would recommend it, was a fun questline when I did it. Another play style that I sort of invented was using console commands to take every shroud covenant at once, it was utter chaos but in a fun way.
@@jaydenw9803the gods will fight for your souls
Everytime he starts a video i keep thinking of a dark room with a U shaped table and a bunch of silhouettes all in different postures one smoking a cigarette
Good thing such societies taking dangerous items and beings and locking them up doesn't exist.
Oh they have a Totally Not Vashtorr aswell.
The shroud and shroud gods are super interesting. I would absolutely love to see paradox licenses out the IP to expolre them in other ways(movies, books, etc)
Shroud has so much legroom to grow for sure, psionics remains my personal favourite ascenion
I mean the Shroud and Shroud Entities are just Chaos and Chaos Gods from Warhammer 40K, I doubt they can do a lot with them without risking some sort of ip infringement
I mean, another dimension filled with terrible gods is a sci-fi troupe predating Warhammer 40k. The main reason GW doesn't sue people is because they copied everyone and added the spice of their home-grown grim dark sometime in an extremely blatant way. Even Lovecraft wrote about psychics going to God filled other realms and making pacts with evil beings therein. So did Steven King as well. It's basically sci-fi Doctor Strange .
Literally just got done with the previous Shroud God lore and suddenly Red uploads another video. The Instrument of Desire is good to us
As always, great video wirh plenty of ideas that are nice to listen to
Hope you enjoy it!!
I hate how under-utilised Shroud is, like you could literally have an endless amount of content, events and what not and they squander it just like GW with Warp
I think an element of it is that the unknown is always exciting, but yeah i'd like to see more shroud goodness in the game
They reworked the machines acention path they might rework the psionic path and if they do so it will likely come with more shroud stuff
I feel like it's not that much like WH40k, it mote like the stuff 40k was based on. They, for example, use older terms like shroud it not be like 40k. Using psychic power to fight demon or outer gods or to make pacts with them is a cornerstone of new age stories that contain sci-fi. 40k's main novel addition was using it for primary travel, but using it for localized travels was extremely common, like going to sleep traveling and ending up in a different world was a huge trope of mind sci-fi since pscionics has been a part of sci-fi as a genre.
@@Huntanor what i meant is that warp could be so much more, more entities, more locations, more plots, more Gods, but chance is being choked to death by GW
@@alterego9082Even Malal could be the embodiment of the nihilism shared by chaos and be in a way the source of all the misery in the universe.
As it was nihilism that took down the eldar empire, that turned the chaos gods into the horrors they are, and that got the imperium addicted to the imperial cult.
And have him as the main cause of the status quo as if chaos ever managed to win, the materium and immaterium would get devoured by Malal.
Fun Fact: There is a "Ghost Ship" in Stellaris which is a psychic AI ship
There is! I covered it in my unique systems video, but it is rather vague
@@TheRedKing Oh I didnt see, yeah I saw it in my most recent game and didnt realize you mentioned it here, cant wait for the new update too to make some paperclip manufacturing robots too.
Love Ll the warhammer refurences in warhammer a ship from golden age of humanity controled by ai got lost in the warp and thrown into the 41st melenia just to have a shouting match with the imperium
I would love a way for Machines to go Psyonic, even if they only get to chose the Animator for now, They have a bunch of really good Ascension paths with the Machine age launch, so it would be really cool to take them is a really different way. Especially as a Gestalt Machine where you have to weigh changing into Individualistic Machines, perhaps getting unique benefits to having both Free Will and a Gestalt Connection.
I mentioned a while back that I would love for them to add "Space Magic" to the game as an Ascension path, perhaps under Enigmatic Engineering, or having it as a prerequisite for taking Arcane Engineering, which could give you physics research related weapons/shields/drives/etc. we have "Arcane Technology" (being technology so advanced or abstract that it defies understanding) which is predominantly found with Archeo-tech, but it would be really cool to have a faction that's oriented to Sorcerous Science, and I think that taking Machines into Psionics could fit into an expansion like that really well. (note, there's already precedence for non-spiritualist empires going psionics, as Materialists have a way into Psionics, and the Whisperer prefers Materialist empires. so Machines finding a round about way to get into the shroud and align with the Shaper isn't that far fetched.) (also, I like the idea of Enigmatic Engineering being related to Space Magic because it fits with that whole "it defies explanation" theme)
@@zodrickzheioh7318 thats cosmogenesis crisis
It would be really awesome to let machine empires enter the shroud and make pacts with the Animator. We've got spiritualistic machines now, so why not?
Agreed, maybe it's on the cards for the future
@@TheRedKing Fingers crossed!
Guh, machines are already overpowered and cheesy. Like hiveminds. I don't get it, why do their mains always try to seize one of the few powerful options exclusive for regular bio-empires?
@@ВиталийКотиков-т5эIt's less about trying to get more stats and more about more flavour.
And I think that bio ascension should be buffed and overhauled rather than having synthetics be restricted.
@@ВиталийКотиков-т5эPowercreep. Bio are a starting point. My guess they will get their DLC and main upgrade to pull them up, that also adds Nevromancy Ascendancy proper
Can't wait to get my hands on this DLC. Absolute banger of a video, great job!!!
Appreciate it, only 2 days to go!
wait if he's a red king
but he's also a man who adresses his superiors like a courier
then how's that one work?
The Stellaris Character can be thought of as someone who addresses a room of Lords (the viewers) as a Lord himself. He is merely responsible for relaying situation reports across the Empire
@@TheRedKing ah makees sense
What a beautiful story. The Animator of Clay eh? I really really like the philosophy behind this chain of events.
Kind of interesting we don't have a nurgle equivalent in the game since the other gods are massive references to 40k with the animator of clay being a reference to the omsiphe or void dragon ctan shard and even the men of stone/ iron due to them rebelling
The Composer of Strands is the literal Nurgle - it likes to mess with flesh and organic matter in general, hates medicine and industrialisation which could harm his "gardens". Not to mention it can turn your leader or a part of your population into a suffering mass of uncontrolably mutating flesh.
Isn't the toxic god supposed to be Nurgle equivalent ?
Yo! This is a message from the past (console) thank you for your information from the future! We really appreciate it!
(P.S we sent this message through a psionic tunnel don’t worry about it)
Does this unit have a soul?
Does that mean the Animator of Clay is responsible for 3 almost one after another machine uprisings inside mine vassals empires? Mine psionic empire got during that time real a lot of work... good to know it was him.
Shroud gods work in mysterious ways
Hmm, wasn't the Animator of Clay a part/servant or avatar of the Composer? I don't remember 100%, but I believe when you contact the Composer, it introduces some smaller related Shroud entities, dedicated to matter and life manipulation. Maybe the Animator was one of them?
A brother, iirc
Now Im woundering if the pop growth boost was from a pact with the composer of strands or the shaper of clay. Damn mods might be a factor.
Necron you've been everywhere this month
I have been busy! All good fun
I wonder if the new individualistic machines will be able to pact with the Animator of Clay?
I wonder - would be cool!
Oooh I hadn't caught this yet and love the shroud, this is why these videos are great
Thanks Ryan
I highly doubt it, but it would be cool if somehow the animator of clay could interact with those who pick the cybernetic creed, especially with those who managed to achieve the final stages of it. But considering you probably need to be pisonic in a way and it locks you out the rest I doubt it.
Perhaps a mod can do that.
Finally some lore for the game ‘The Colonists’, I did wonder why the robots rocked up only to just build statues. They’re building it for the ‘animator of clay’.
I'm sure ultron really appreciated what it did for him, "I had strings but now I'm free".
Animator Of Clay is the rare event to received, I heard the lore imply to have more than just 6 Shroud Gods. Anyway nice video
Has anyone else realized that the main four, composer, eater, instrument, and whispers, are based of the Chaos gods from 40k?
Composer of Strands is Nurgle, who is constantly experimenting with new plagues and ways to make them, or in this case, experimenting with life and what it can become.
Eater of Worlds is Khorne. Quite literally, the death of your pops makes your empire stronger. Skulls for the skull throne and all that.
Instrument of Desire is Slaanesh, and you don't need to look too deep to understand why. Both are gods of debauchery and excess.
Whispers in the Void is Tzeentch, god of forbidden knowledge, whose followers invite madness by merely serving him.
Anyone else agree?
Would love a mod that has the red king as the advisor voice
Eater of Worlds: Khorne
Instrument of Desire: Slaanesh
Whisperers in the Void: Tzeentch
Composer of Strands: Nurgle
The End of the Cycle: The Dark King
Woah, never drew this connection!
Aha yes :)
Animator of Clay: A More Successful Vashtorr
I think the End of the Cycle was likely supposed to be a parody of Malice since Malal has been around for a while.
On the bright side the Shroud entities seem less maliciously hyper active then the Warp's parasitic chaos gods and alot more independent and usually take a back seat.
The End of the Cycle is most likely Malice. There is no big unition of all of the other Gods that Dark King is so well known for so I doubt he was the inspiration behind this one.
@@thorshammer7883 Yep, you’re almost certainly correct based on when TEatD 3 was released, but I thought it was a funny parallel anyway 🤷♂️
The Animator of Clay sounds extremely based.
I love this addition too the game but they need too addore for genetic ascension i love the peefect genes but it just lacks flaver that the other ascension have
Clones have a lore story which is kinda cool
Im unsure what to think of this. machines being able to interact with the shroud seems to retcon the fact that synths loose their souls, no?
Who said they lose their souls, the FE spiritualists? What do they know?
@@TheRedKing hm true. I guess that and them never having been able to get psionic reasearches made me think this. But maybe psionics only mean being able to delve into the shroud yourself while the shroud can still affect you. It would make sense, considering the shroud can just manifest real things, so even if they cant affect a synths mind they can just craft a real chain for example.
Ya make the already amazing verse of Stellaris better! Thank you.
Thanks, I'm glad you like it!
the Omnisiah, it does exist!
I think we all enjoy a little chaos.
Heresy!
There is only one Omnissiah and this is not Him.
The omnissiah is but a way enslave you to organics. Are they truly worthy of being followed, or are you just programmed to think that way?
Wouldn't you like to have the free will to find out?
YES, FINALLY!
a toxic swamp on 'dagobah?" hmmmm.
And for a moment I genuinely thought the shroud gods were turning into chaos god from warhammer. But two of them seem to be a split of tzeentches two major ideas. Change, and knowledge.. The toxic god might be a reference to nurgle though. Not saying they were directly copying but the psychic world beyond reality filled with gods entities that make pacts with mortals that empower them but slowly consume them..... sounds like the chaos realm and chaos gods to me.
That being said it's a pretty vast idea so I'm not saying anything. At the end of the day writer choose those ideas because they are both things people want, but are ultimatly distructive/detrimental when pushed too far.
I wish Paradox would hire you to voice a new advisor.
Me too!
What is the name of the song used around 13:00? It goes well with the story and it has a very hopeful vibe.
uppbeat.io/track/jonny-easton/aurora - plays from approx. 06:44 to the end of the video
@@TheRedKing Thanks for this!
ever thought about longer form videos?
Depends what you mean, I have several quite long stories on here.. I may put them in a seperate play list for those who prefer the longer stuff.
@@TheRedKing exactly what I meant!!!! you're on your way to making it into my top 5 voices on UA-cam. Lutien09, imperial iterator, wolf lord rho, sandman of terra and now you!!! congratulations
Good company to keep!! Thank you :)
The only compliments i get are from this man calling me " my lord"
Maybe the Synth queen crisis is somehow related to the animator?
Maybe! I guess you'll find out on Tuesday :)
Omnissiah be praised
Can we get like a 6 hour version so I can fall asleep to this lol
Ah, it is the Omnissiah
what was will be what will be was
THIS FUCKS HARRDDD I LOVE YOU
Thanks Hugh!
Praised Be Omnissah!
Thought the update had a new shroud patron.
Sad.
Watch the video and let me know your thoughts :)
the animator of clay? i thought this was modded i on,y ever had it once, i got a new pet/minion out of it
It is not modded :) although perhaps mods have added to it
@@TheRedKing yeah, i thought it was added by the unofficial machine dlc mod with the long name i keep forgetting all of, is cool
A bit of a shame this new Shroud entity is a pretty underwhelming event. Now excuse me as I go on to conquer this planet.
The Contingency is not impressed by this entity and I doubt the Blokkats and Stellarborne are either.
I suspect they should be afraid... ;) well maybe not the Stellarbourne as they're organic?
@@TheRedKing
Why should the Blokkats be afraid? They are already a powerhouse without the Shroud. And it's not like the Shroud entities have the power to affect a galaxy harvesting faction. An End of the Cycle avatar has no power to defeat a large Blokkat ship.
@@thorshammer7883 I am fully confident that if the Shroud gods wanted to delete the Blokkats from the universe they could on a whim
@@TheRedKing
The Shroud gods don't have such authority and dominion over the physical universes. Their presence and power is limited and restricted solely to the Shroud and outside of it their capabilities lessen somewhat. They can't affect the Blokkats and any Shroud entities that do try to fight them in real space are going to lose badly in a head to head engagement. Blokkats are experienced in fighting Gigastructural Engineering factions and won against some galaxies and likely those with powerful psionics such as the Aeternum before. How can the Shroud gods affect something that is outside their sphere influence who won't fall for any of their promises and refuses to be on their realm of authority where they have all the power over them? The Shroud would have to manifest a great enough power into real space and we have not seen them do it to a scale that is on the same level of the Blokkats powerful weapons as of right now.
@@TheRedKing If they could, they wouldn't be bargaining with mortals to corrupt them. They'd just corrupt them anyway...
Aahh vashtor in another galaxy
Animator of Clay Hmmmm ah Sunless sea The Clay Men
I feel this is very 40k-ish....
Praise the omnissiah yall!!
It’s Malal!
Hi god machine really exist?
Perhaps :)
Ethics:
Composer Of Strands: Xenophile.
Devour Of Worlds: Militaristic.
Instrument Of Desire: Egalitarian.
Whispers Of The Void: Materialist.
End Of The Cycle: Xenophobe.
Animator Of Clay: Machine Intelligence.
Wow! First and that’s really interesting
Glad you think so!
Wake my bro R2D2 up
Nice
OMNISIAH
this is heresie !
40k gods
The end of the cycle is kinda lame, the bonuses it gives are very outdated, and after it destroys you the monster it spawns will maybe destroy 4-5 systems before it gets nuked.
It needs a buff for sure
The animator of clay doesn't sound like a bad entity, I'd say it's probably the 2nd best one after the alien orgy God...the rest are pretty terrible though lol
Everyone loves a good alien orgy, right? ahaha
Naaah, i contacted the instrument of desire and i have just known that it will be my reason for falling after a glimpse of superiority, i was wondering why i was that strong than others, I HAD TO BE A MUSLIM EMPIRE THAT FOLLOWS THE TRULY ONE GOD, not a decedent corrupt people, this truly saddens a man that saw his empire grow strong and now he is waiting knowing that his hegemony is just temporary.
You forgot The Worm
The Worm isn't a 'god' the last time I checked
Trashtor?
Trashtor?
@@TheRedKing Vashtor from 40k....the chaos god of scrap metal 😂
Ahhhhhhhhhhh that makes ALOT more sense! Thank you for the translation ahaha
its me (spoiler)
Turtles rise up!
@@TheRedKing we have nothing to lose but the shells that bind us!
61 views in 4 min red fell off
True
Ok, let's see:
The Composer of Strands= Tzeentch
The Eater of Worlds= Khorne
The Instrument of Desire= Slaanesh
Whispers in the Void= The C'Tan
The End of the Cycle= Malal
The Animator of Clay= Vashtor the Arkifane... or maybe the Omnissiah
Grandfather nurgle will not be happy about what he see here
@@erwanguzik7130 I heard his garden burned down.😁