That gun is a perfect example of real innovation, that could have resulted in one of the best shotguns in the market. Unfortunately it was "killed" by over-engineering, and by engineers not listening to the right expert/shooters. I think Beretta should bring the 2.0 version.
The problem was already solves, about 150 years ago. Its called a over under double barrel. I'm guessing they wanted to save money by having the same but with a single barrel. Just get a pump.
My absolute favorite semi automatic. I can shoot it in any discipline, even Olympic Trap, and I love that it is a break open, which to me means it's much safer than the usual semi auto especially if you have a new shooter. As I am not a fan of recoil I can also shoot heavier loads than with any other gun.
@@Albrtd3 maybe safer in sense of easy visual confirmation that it is in an unshootable safe condition, so you know the other guy's gun is safe, similar to a break action.
Never heard of it, never seen one, none of my friends know of one. I love it! I really like the look of this enigmatic shooter. Looks like on overengineered concept but it looks great. Would not mind a few shots on it. Well done TGS team very informative and entertaining...
Kid I shot trap with back in highschool had one. Absolute unicorn gun, was extremely cool to see. Apparently was extremely common for his to be in the shop due to mechanical issues though so I doubt that the price tag is worth the cool factor vs the upkeep
Reminds me of the Ljutic space gun or the Browning Recoilless Or even the Browning Double auto. Gun before it's time or a gun made for societies with strict gun laws that limit the capacity of shotguns. I've never seen one in the US but I do enjoy different, some would say strange guns
Looks worthy of consideration to me. I wonder if they considered making the opening lever swappable L/R. Side ejection and walking about with an unbroken gun are pet peeves of some shooters. They generally won't voice it to you publicly, but they will semi-anonymously in a forum. Although it lacks the break-open feature, the Butler is another autoloader with the barrel on the bottom.
Just hold on a moment. I have one of these, the trap version, and totally love it. It is funky and odd I'll grant you but it is always a talking point and people who fire it say what I expect, that it is fun and easy to point and shoot. Oh and by the way they are very rare and prices are rising. The 'why' is a good question but I am glad they did. I bought mine for a very reasonable 1800 euros here in France nearly four years ago. It was and is like new and I have been asked to sell it many times over. The original price for my model back in 2008 was I think 7000 euros which was the main reason it died at the box office. I would hold you up on the claim that they are unreliable and some don't work. Mine is a 2009 model and I regularly put 24g and 28g shells through it. I have never, not once, never had a shell jam or the gun not cycle. Some people don't understand that the second shell on the outside must be pushed right forward into the cradle.
@@tgsoutdoors Yes wow. The kit it comes with and the box too are things of beauty and the materials of the gun are very high quality. When I shoot ball trap comps here I always get a crowd watching because the cycling of the second shell, as you know, is mega quick. My French shooting mate Daniel who is a left hander likes to borrow my UGB and nearly always shoots better with it than his 692. The bottom line is it is a Marmite gun but secretly I think a lot of people, when they see one, would love it in their collection. I do use mine sparingly and normally shoot a Browning Ultra XTR.
Yes that was the original retail price, that killed the gun more than anything else. That was just arrogance on Beretta’s part. They should have lowered the price, looked after the disgruntled customers and perfected the product and continued selling the gun. It would still be selling today.
this gun is VERY innovative, honestly love the idea and makes me think of how to make it more innovative, the system to insert the next shell makes me wonder if one could custom install something like Alof's Reloading system to the side to give it a larger "magazine" either way, think it's dope!
Like it - I’ve never seen a break-open semi before, but can see it would stop the suspicious glances people using a “normal” semi-auto seem to get a clay grounds! Looks great as well.
@@mr.randomperson9900 Aversion to innovation is a reflex you'll find in literally every niche sport that's been around for long enough to develop its own "traditions".
Since it came up, there is a rule in American trap to prevent semiautos from throwing empties in a “distracting” manner. There’s also an American gun builder, Butler, that currently makes a two-shot, bottom-ejecting, “unsingle” semiauto that would be a fun review. Love the channel!
You should find an old Browning Double Auto and test - it was not a break action gun, but the short inertia action and the second cartridge sitting on the side of the action is pretty similar. It was a much earlier gun off course
Armalite had a 2 shot semi-auto shotgun in the mid-60s called the AR-17. The spokesman for it was Robert Stack because the AR-17 was marketed to skeet shooters.
I almost bought one of these at auction a few months ago but got outbid. I still want one, just because I like odd and rare things and it's a cool piece of engineering.
the UGB was named after Ugo Gusali Beretta, which is why it had to work as they couldn't release a gun named after a member of the family and it not work, as soon as it did work then they stopped making it.
I had the opportunity to shoot a friends UGB and it was a lovely gun to shoot. soft shooting and well balanced. Its as if someone at beretta had decided to make an auto that has none of the autos drawbacks---with the break barrel its easy to see its safe and the way it gently "poops" out the empties in front of you so no fear of pelting the next guy in the squad with your empties. Sadly his gun broke and there is pretty much no support for spares on these so instantly became a wall hanger.
I worker for the New Zealand Beretta Agents when this gun first came out in prototype form . I enjoyed shooting DTL with it as I could stand with the shells in it and just close it like a under/over , not having to wait until it was my turn to shoot to put the shells in and not having to unload the unfired shell kept the rhythm of the squad moving nicely along . The problem was I only have 2 hands and taking the gun apart was just a confusion , then again it was a prototype .
Sorry for not commenting on this topic! I discovered your channel just a few weeks ago. I’m really into it. Being myself a forester in Germany you opened a door to a rather different culture of hunting and my boys and I really love the music you choose for your videos. Just one small note: I’d love to see more of the dog’s retrieving work. Owning terriers myself I’m considering getting a retriever myself since I seriously started hunting geese in my new additional hunting area. My shotgun came back to work at last.
Just stumbling onto this video. I have the Excel Trap and love shooting it. I obtained it well used (and abused) and aside from having to replace a broken spring it has run flawlessly with every cheap load I have given it. Until this video I never even knew it had a reputation for poor reliability. One thing to point out around recoil is that there was an optional kit to install an internal inertial buffer, pretty much a counterweight on a spring inside the stock. I sourced one piecemeal over a few years and can't say that it improved recoil but it changed the feel and added almost an AR-15's spring noise to the action while firing. Definetely a lot of "new" in this gun. Sadly I don't shoot it as much as I'd like knowing I might never find parts for it if something else fails.
I remember when these first came out and were in the Beretta booth at the larger shoots. Honestly, thought they were weird as hell. Never messed with them at the time. Having shot one of these and messed with it a bit since though, they are certainly both neat, and do shoot quite well. Sort of shockingly well actually. I don't think we got it to run 1 ounce light loads well unless it was really pulled in tight and lubed up. My 1 1/8 ounce light reloads seems to run fine. Factor 3 dram 1 1/8th ounce loads ran without an issue. Kinda sad they didn't make them for long, they are interesting and there part of me that likes having a weird gun at the range. Lord knows it sometimes gets boring seeing a rack of nothing but krieghoffs where I am at.
LOL I Just pictured the looks of disdain from Krieghoff and Perazzi shooters. I used to love putting my 11-87 Trap or Beretta 390 super trap next to 10-20,000 Dollar trap guns and watching their owners cringe.
@@richardsveum8452 Coming from someone who owned a Krieghoff, naw, the 390 and 391s were always pretty well regarded. I still look around hoping to stumble on a good deal on one for.... well reasons. Now, them goofy perazzi shooters, they might take offense at another pizza blaster being on the rack with their guns. lol.
Interesting video I had a Browning Recoilless Trap Gun That was also a strange trap gun It tried to get rid of the recoil But mine had problems , so I sold it and went back to shooting my 686
I love the way it looks. A break-open semi-auto shotgun with a capacity of 1+1. It's mechanically interesting. The "magazine" is on the outside and you get to watch the shell move. Does it offer any sort of advantage over your conventional double-barrel? Not really. Pure novelty. Really cool. Feels video-gamey.
So, it has a 1 round magazine on the side instead of the bottom in order to specifically regulate recoil and bottom eject. Just make the gas system variable or add different springs that can be dropped in. Use any ammo you want.
Definitely mechanically interesting. Also I don't see what you mean by military look. the m500 and M4 shotguns we had don't have barrels like that they are more simplistic and lightweight.
My 2009 model is still working well but requires extra attention around cleaning and light gun grease. I have never owned another gun that smashes clays like it, thats its best feature. Its worse feature is annoyingly small screws on the forend that keep working free, but it remains a keeper for sure.
that is such a cool shotgun, it like when you buy a watch and chose one where you can see the cogs and spring on the back through the glass. i think this will be my first gun when the time comes, it so fascinating piece of engineering and that is part of the magic with guns
I work at a trap/skeet range and one of our fairly regulars brings this with him and he was kind enough to let me shoot it. Ever since then I’ve been completely enamored with it
The trap version is far better being adjustable in every way also I was told it was renamed ultimate gun beretta after the 1st batch which I also owned failed 😀 now had 3 2 where absolutely fine still own 1
Perfect gun for Countries that want to severely limit mag size for scary semi autos... Yes looking at you Mr Trudeau grrrr. This would skirt that nicely and no need for a mag plug when hunting. If the side load mag could've been extended for an extra shell then even better. I think it's kinda cool.
I'm not a "gun guy." I have a few. 1911 .45 acp 12 gauge and a 9mm.. Basics. I've never felt the need to spend over 500 dollars for any firearm, as they are just tools. This is ART.
So glad you've reviewed this gun. Have wanted one ever since I see one at beretta world this year. Cool looking gun but was put off after seeing some bad reviews. Like all my gun purchases After seeing it in your hands and your honest reviews think I might actually pull the trigger on buying one when the right one comes along. Tyvm tgs. Keep em coming.
its basically a browning double auto with extra steps. I think the two design features that I like thee most are the bottom eject and the low bore axis. there arent any bottom eject auto loaders in common use today. I think Berretta fell into the trap trap a lot of designers fall into when trying to come up with a revelatory product, they went a few steps too far, and ended up with a very technically impressive failure. Its kinda sad it got the axe because I see a lot of potential.
As someone who as only ever heard about guns I think for it's purpose it seems there is little need to use anything but the two barrel setup. mean if the shells stay in the gun until you pull them out you don't have to worry about them beeing ejected while shooting. Also the gun having a breach and a sideloading function adds too many moving parts.
I like the concept, Ive never been any good at over unders because I just have so much trouble making that on the fly elevation adjustment. So this would be super nice
I think the point of that second round shelf-thing is that you load 2, fire one, reload the shelf, fire one, reload the shelf, and so on. Of course, when you're shooting clays, that feature is useless.
Before everything,this gun is soooo unique,and it's sexy,inspite the fact that is heavy,and the unusual feeling,it's in the same category of feeling like the Chiappa Rhino revolver,wich is also an unique gun,the UGO needs to be fine tune into a race gun type of functionality,the greatest thing i can see is that you can load externally after each shot without breaking open until the night fall and beyond and still keep shooting that marvel until you run out of clays or shells,the weight and that coustomisable but pad looks sooo friendly to my flimsy shoulder,and i can belive i can also fast reload one shell on the side at every shot quite with ease,in the POV of a non experienced shotgun user,the system itself is indeed overengeneered but the low recoil and fast follow up shot possibility is just superb for a gun that peoples just don't understand,lucky those who got it and enjoy it ! Best wishes from Romania 😀
It's like Beretta wanted to make a more complex and fragile take on the Armalite AR-17, which also had extremely limited market appeal. Hell, and that wasn't even a break action.
I handled one in about 2010, really liked the feel, i like interesting equipment , it's different, it works if used correctly apparently. Id have one as a second gun to shoot when I fancy a change for the day.
I wonder how much would it take to engineer and attach a contraption to the side that would feed new shells to that holder like a WW2 anti-aircraft gun.
@@tgsoutdoors The difficult constrution of the gun made the cleaning quite tricky. When you were shooting like 400 shots in a day, you really needed to clean your gun every day. I bought the gun just because I was mostly interested in the mecahnics, and I got it just for 600€. I didnt have the actual need for sporting shotgun, but for that price its (just a bit) better than Baikal IJ-18. The clay shooting was fun, but with Saga 24g trap shots it wasnt working as it should. It was fine gun with fine wood stocks and everything, but it wasnt a gun made for everyone.
This has the same "what are they gonna do, call the cops?" energy of the Zip-22's very cool and not illegal underslung rail. Like this really feels like it was supposed to get a "aftermarket" drum mag.
It's cool, but it seems like a solution looking for a problem. I'm sure there are other ways of implementing downward ejection. There are pumps that eject downwards.
I own a Beretta 1301 and Beretta's subsidiary makes the Benelli M4, two GREAT shotguns. Not to mention their A series guns. I can't believe Beretta made this horror. I guess the idea was to have a lighter, handier version of the double barreled skeet and duck gun by removing that heavy extra barrel. While keeping it legal for competitions and some hunting restrictions with 2 rounds. But damn. It would be better to get an automatic shotgun with an unremovable plastic follower restricting it to 2 rounds.
That’s one gun i’ve always wanted to try it would be great if Benelli or beretta could come up with a gun like this again with a conventional loading port in a 3 shot or more !
This gun was expressely made for clay shot, so it intentionally only had only two rounds, to have the masses very centred (no second barrel, no tubular magazine).
UGB actually stands for ugly gun Berretta. That being said I love mine. Great semi for left handed shooters. You soon get used to the release lever with either hand. Bought mine in 2013 and never had a problem with it. I shoot 10 sets of trap twice a week.
I mean, a tube mag does the same thing for cheaper. This looks cool though which is probably the selling point. I'd imagine this gun is also annoying to use during a trap league since you can't catch your shells and need to pick them up. A semi auto shell catcher for a normal gun is $10 but probably doesn't work on this thing.
thats true but for a left handed shooter a shell catcher is really a pain. even so, just getting a left handed gun would be more economical than this but I really like Ambi stuff
As a guy who understands things like a low bore centerline, recoil impulse and paranoia at a shooting range, that could well have been a winner with a little more of an elegant exterior and some refinement. But it wasn’t going to impress anyone other than a top level competition shooter so it needed to be a top level design that was highly customizable for the end user and 100% reliable. The average recreational shooter isn’t likely to appreciate its potential benefits. Back before market share and profitability became everything, I think the right company could have made it a winner fifty years ago. Today it either needs to be elegant for the discriminating sportsman or tacticool and being a double shooter only, no chance the tacticool crowd is going to be interested
I sold guns for a living for 15 years. This is the only gun I ever had to look at the manual to assemble out of the box. I honestly didn't have any idea what I was looking at. It is just that different.
Jonny thanks for the review. Having never seen much less shot one, I can only a comment based on you review. It looks like a Frankingun with a good disposition. Or a prototype that escaped the R&D department. I wonder how much of a pain it is to clean.
The concept was a move in the right direction. If successful it would have decimated the over/under and autoloader market. Beretta should have poured $$$ into Research and Development. I shot a round of skeet with a UGB using an 1-1/8oz 1180fps load. I believe it had 30” with a modified choke. I literally smoked 25 targets, I’m not kidding every shot produced smoke. But in my opinion it did have some recoil. They shouldn’t have discontinued this gun.
Re shotkam. Just looked at the pricing and as im in Australia it gave an option to view pricing in Au $. But if ordering from the uk you dont have to pay vat. I ordered pilla glasses in uk and saved $300, shotkam adjust your pricing minus vat.
That's the trouble with recoil operated guns, they only work well in a narrow range of ammo power, unlike well designed gas operated ones that just dump excess gas with the more powerful rounds. That's an interesting gum though, but one wonders why they bothered really... :-)
well it's only and sole purpose is clay shooting, and at that i think it's pretty darn great. low recoil, low weight from having a single barrel, ... pretty neat at what it's made for imho.
Honestly seems like something you’d see in some near-future sci fi series. High-quality break-barrel sporting shotgun but instead of just being a double barrel its a semi-auto, purely for the sake of “because we can”
I searched this gun mid video hoping it would be cheap as an unpopular, discontinued gun but I was rudely surprised by a $4,000 price tag I can understand completely people being unhappy paying so much money for a gun to not work perfectly. If a $500 shotgun can run any shells you can find, one that costs thousands plural should definitely have a high degree of reliability.
That gun is a perfect example of real innovation, that could have resulted in one of the best shotguns in the market. Unfortunately it was "killed" by over-engineering, and by engineers not listening to the right expert/shooters. I think Beretta should bring the 2.0 version.
No, it is an overcomplicated piece of junk.
@@jon1801 what a smart and well said argument
@@jon1801 Can you elaborate, or is that the full depth of your analysis?
I like the idea of an AN-94 style feed system in a 2-3 round sporting shotgun.
The problem was already solves, about 150 years ago. Its called a over under double barrel. I'm guessing they wanted to save money by having the same but with a single barrel. Just get a pump.
Looks like they were designing a belt fed shotgun but then realized last minute you only get two shots per position in clays.
😂😂
Would be pretty interesting to convert it into a belt fed semi auto
God I would nut for a belt fed shotgun.
to be quite honest, it was kind of rude of clay pigeon shooting to not change the rules to account for this
@@midshipman8654 ikr
I bought one of these secondhand about a year ago. Fell in love with how the action works and how strange it is. Great video!
My absolute favorite semi automatic. I can shoot it in any discipline, even Olympic Trap, and I love that it is a break open, which to me means it's much safer than the usual semi auto especially if you have a new shooter. As I am not a fan of recoil I can also shoot heavier loads than with any other gun.
How is that safer?
@@Albrtd3 Right, it is still semi auto.
@@Albrtd3 maybe safer in sense of easy visual confirmation that it is in an unshootable safe condition, so you know the other guy's gun is safe, similar to a break action.
@@Albrtd3 if the break is open the gun cannot fire in any circumstance
@@Albrtd3 ass
Never heard of it, never seen one, none of my friends know of one. I love it! I really like the look of this enigmatic shooter. Looks like on overengineered concept but it looks great. Would not mind a few shots on it. Well done TGS team very informative and entertaining...
I like everything except the price tag, but that's what you get with guns like this.
Kid I shot trap with back in highschool had one. Absolute unicorn gun, was extremely cool to see. Apparently was extremely common for his to be in the shop due to mechanical issues though so I doubt that the price tag is worth the cool factor vs the upkeep
Reminds me of the Ljutic space gun or the Browning Recoilless Or even the Browning Double auto. Gun before it's time or a gun made for societies with strict gun laws that limit the capacity of shotguns. I've never seen one in the US but I do enjoy different, some would say strange guns
Looks worthy of consideration to me. I wonder if they considered making the opening lever swappable L/R.
Side ejection and walking about with an unbroken gun are pet peeves of some shooters. They generally won't voice it to you publicly, but they will semi-anonymously in a forum.
Although it lacks the break-open feature, the Butler is another autoloader with the barrel on the bottom.
Hard to say what their future plans were, since the project got discontinued.
Just hold on a moment. I have one of these, the trap version, and totally love it. It is funky and odd I'll grant you but it is always a talking point and people who fire it say what I expect, that it is fun and easy to point and shoot. Oh and by the way they are very rare and prices are rising. The 'why' is a good question but I am glad they did. I bought mine for a very reasonable 1800 euros here in France nearly four years ago. It was and is like new and I have been asked to sell it many times over. The original price for my model back in 2008 was I think 7000 euros which was the main reason it died at the box office.
I would hold you up on the claim that they are unreliable and some don't work. Mine is a 2009 model and I regularly put 24g and 28g shells through it. I have never, not once, never had a shell jam or the gun not cycle. Some people don't understand that the second shell on the outside must be pushed right forward into the cradle.
7000 euro!! Wow!
@@tgsoutdoors Yes wow. The kit it comes with and the box too are things of beauty and the materials of the gun are very high quality. When I shoot ball trap comps here I always get a crowd watching because the cycling of the second shell, as you know, is mega quick. My French shooting mate Daniel who is a left hander likes to borrow my UGB and nearly always shoots better with it than his 692. The bottom line is it is a Marmite gun but secretly I think a lot of people, when they see one, would love it in their collection. I do use mine sparingly and normally shoot a Browning Ultra XTR.
70mm cartridges good quality no problems. Don't forget about the Kirsten bolt on a semi ‐ auto 👌 and I believe Giugiaro designed its looks.
Yes that was the original retail price, that killed the gun more than anything else. That was just arrogance on Beretta’s part. They should have lowered the price, looked after the disgruntled customers and perfected the product and continued selling the gun. It would still be selling today.
this gun is VERY innovative, honestly love the idea and makes me think of how to make it more innovative, the system to insert the next shell makes me wonder if one could custom install something like Alof's Reloading system to the side to give it a larger "magazine"
either way, think it's dope!
Like it - I’ve never seen a break-open semi before, but can see it would stop the suspicious glances people using a “normal” semi-auto seem to get a clay grounds! Looks great as well.
People should not get weird looks for using certain firearms. They’re doing the same thing everyone else is doing, just using a different tool.
@@mr.randomperson9900 Aversion to innovation is a reflex you'll find in literally every niche sport that's been around for long enough to develop its own "traditions".
Surrounding people can’t see if a semi-auto is safe or not. Not everyone is trained like a soldier.
Since it came up, there is a rule in American trap to prevent semiautos from throwing empties in a “distracting” manner.
There’s also an American gun builder, Butler, that currently makes a two-shot, bottom-ejecting, “unsingle” semiauto that would be a fun review. Love the channel!
But thats the best part of a semiauto was to just have it chuck a spent shell at the guy over
And I always thought that in the US, yellow warning signs on every screw were enough. 😂
You should find an old Browning Double Auto and test - it was not a break action gun, but the short inertia action and the second cartridge sitting on the side of the action is pretty similar. It was a much earlier gun off course
Not to mention that it also is an extremely soft shooting shotgun. With the handling of a side-by-side.
Armalite had a 2 shot semi-auto shotgun in the mid-60s called the AR-17. The spokesman for it was Robert Stack because the AR-17 was marketed to skeet shooters.
I almost bought one of these at auction a few months ago but got outbid. I still want one, just because I like odd and rare things and it's a cool piece of engineering.
the UGB was named after Ugo Gusali Beretta, which is why it had to work as they couldn't release a gun named after a member of the family and it not work, as soon as it did work then they stopped making it.
I had the opportunity to shoot a friends UGB and it was a lovely gun to shoot. soft shooting and well balanced. Its as if someone at beretta had decided to make an auto that has none of the autos drawbacks---with the break barrel its easy to see its safe and the way it gently "poops" out the empties in front of you so no fear of pelting the next guy in the squad with your empties. Sadly his gun broke and there is pretty much no support for spares on these so instantly became a wall hanger.
I worker for the New Zealand Beretta Agents when this gun first came out in prototype form . I enjoyed shooting DTL with it as I could stand with the shells in it and just close it like a under/over , not having to wait until it was my turn to shoot to put the shells in and not having to unload the unfired shell kept the rhythm of the squad moving nicely along . The problem was I only have 2 hands and taking the gun apart was just a confusion , then again it was a prototype .
One of my all time favorite guns, love the way it shoots. Mine shoots and cycles like a champ.
Lucky man
@@Doommarine91870mm cartridges.
Sorry for not commenting on this topic! I discovered your channel just a few weeks ago. I’m really into it. Being myself a forester in Germany you opened a door to a rather different culture of hunting and my boys and I really love the music you choose for your videos. Just one small note: I’d love to see more of the dog’s retrieving work. Owning terriers myself I’m considering getting a retriever myself since I seriously started hunting geese in my new additional hunting area. My shotgun came back to work at last.
Have you ever considered a large/small munsterlander as a gun dog?
I love how the side shell just *floop* goes into the chamber after shooting, this gun looks like so much fun
Absolutely love mine!!!
As you say cartridge fussy but as long as you feed her quality carts it’s absolutely fine!!!
Just stumbling onto this video. I have the Excel Trap and love shooting it. I obtained it well used (and abused) and aside from having to replace a broken spring it has run flawlessly with every cheap load I have given it. Until this video I never even knew it had a reputation for poor reliability. One thing to point out around recoil is that there was an optional kit to install an internal inertial buffer, pretty much a counterweight on a spring inside the stock. I sourced one piecemeal over a few years and can't say that it improved recoil but it changed the feel and added almost an AR-15's spring noise to the action while firing. Definetely a lot of "new" in this gun. Sadly I don't shoot it as much as I'd like knowing I might never find parts for it if something else fails.
I remember when these first came out and were in the Beretta booth at the larger shoots. Honestly, thought they were weird as hell. Never messed with them at the time.
Having shot one of these and messed with it a bit since though, they are certainly both neat, and do shoot quite well. Sort of shockingly well actually. I don't think we got it to run 1 ounce light loads well unless it was really pulled in tight and lubed up. My 1 1/8 ounce light reloads seems to run fine. Factor 3 dram 1 1/8th ounce loads ran without an issue. Kinda sad they didn't make them for long, they are interesting and there part of me that likes having a weird gun at the range. Lord knows it sometimes gets boring seeing a rack of nothing but krieghoffs where I am at.
LOL I Just pictured the looks of disdain from Krieghoff and Perazzi shooters. I used to love putting my 11-87 Trap or Beretta 390 super trap next to 10-20,000 Dollar trap guns and watching their owners cringe.
@@richardsveum8452 Coming from someone who owned a Krieghoff, naw, the 390 and 391s were always pretty well regarded. I still look around hoping to stumble on a good deal on one for.... well reasons. Now, them goofy perazzi shooters, they might take offense at another pizza blaster being on the rack with their guns. lol.
Interesting video
I had a Browning Recoilless Trap Gun
That was also a strange trap gun
It tried to get rid of the recoil
But mine had problems , so I sold it and went back to shooting my 686
I love the way it looks. A break-open semi-auto shotgun with a capacity of 1+1. It's mechanically interesting. The "magazine" is on the outside and you get to watch the shell move. Does it offer any sort of advantage over your conventional double-barrel? Not really. Pure novelty. Really cool. Feels video-gamey.
I've ALWAYS wanted to try one of these. Thanks for showing it off.
One thing that i love is that brake open sound and closing sound
So, it has a 1 round magazine on the side instead of the bottom in order to specifically regulate recoil and bottom eject.
Just make the gas system variable or add different springs that can be dropped in. Use any ammo you want.
Definitely mechanically interesting. Also I don't see what you mean by military look. the m500 and M4 shotguns we had don't have barrels like that they are more simplistic and lightweight.
love the early access H3VR content showcase, keep up the good work
The sound it makes when you open and close it is so satisfying.
Interesting idea; reminds me of both the DB-12 trigger system and the AN-94 action.
Actually, not so much either of those by the end of the video.
My 2009 model is still working well but requires extra attention around cleaning and light gun grease. I have never owned another gun that smashes clays like it, thats its best feature. Its worse feature is annoyingly small screws on the forend that keep working free, but it remains a keeper for sure.
that is such a cool shotgun, it like when you buy a watch and chose one where you can see the cogs and spring on the back through the glass. i think this will be my first gun when the time comes, it so fascinating piece of engineering and that is part of the magic with guns
I work at a trap/skeet range and one of our fairly regulars brings this with him and he was kind enough to let me shoot it. Ever since then I’ve been completely enamored with it
The trap version is far better being adjustable in every way also I was told it was renamed ultimate gun beretta after the 1st batch which I also owned failed 😀 now had 3 2 where absolutely fine still own 1
Perfect gun for Countries that want to severely limit mag size for scary semi autos... Yes looking at you Mr Trudeau grrrr. This would skirt that nicely and no need for a mag plug when hunting. If the side load mag could've been extended for an extra shell then even better. I think it's kinda cool.
1:46 keep those eyes open ha! Great content as always, much love from Texas!
I'm not a "gun guy."
I have a few.
1911 .45 acp
12 gauge
and a 9mm..
Basics.
I've never felt the need to spend over 500 dollars for any firearm, as they are just tools.
This is ART.
So glad you've reviewed this gun. Have wanted one ever since I see one at beretta world this year. Cool looking gun but was put off after seeing some bad reviews. Like all my gun purchases After seeing it in your hands and your honest reviews think I might actually pull the trigger on buying one when the right one comes along. Tyvm tgs. Keep em coming.
its basically a browning double auto with extra steps. I think the two design features that I like thee most are the bottom eject and the low bore axis. there arent any bottom eject auto loaders in common use today. I think Berretta fell into the trap trap a lot of designers fall into when trying to come up with a revelatory product, they went a few steps too far, and ended up with a very technically impressive failure. Its kinda sad it got the axe because I see a lot of potential.
Theoretically could you load the chamber, then always be able to just top up that side shell holder?
As someone who as only ever heard about guns I think for it's purpose it seems there is little need to use anything but the two barrel setup. mean if the shells stay in the gun until you pull them out you don't have to worry about them beeing ejected while shooting.
Also the gun having a breach and a sideloading function adds too many moving parts.
I like the concept, Ive never been any good at over unders because I just have so much trouble making that on the fly elevation adjustment. So this would be super nice
I think the point of that second round shelf-thing is that you load 2, fire one, reload the shelf, fire one, reload the shelf, and so on.
Of course, when you're shooting clays, that feature is useless.
Before everything,this gun is soooo unique,and it's sexy,inspite the fact that is heavy,and the unusual feeling,it's in the same category of feeling like the Chiappa Rhino revolver,wich is also an unique gun,the UGO needs to be fine tune into a race gun type of functionality,the greatest thing i can see is that you can load externally after each shot without breaking open until the night fall and beyond and still keep shooting that marvel until you run out of clays or shells,the weight and that coustomisable but pad looks sooo friendly to my flimsy shoulder,and i can belive i can also fast reload one shell on the side at every shot quite with ease,in the POV of a non experienced shotgun user,the system itself is indeed overengeneered but the low recoil and fast follow up shot possibility is just superb for a gun that peoples just don't understand,lucky those who got it and enjoy it ! Best wishes from Romania 😀
It's like Beretta wanted to make a more complex and fragile take on the Armalite AR-17, which also had extremely limited market appeal. Hell, and that wasn't even a break action.
That's actually quite the neat piece; love the action of it.
The sound it makes is just phenomenal
I handled one in about 2010, really liked the feel, i like interesting equipment , it's different, it works if used correctly apparently. Id have one as a second gun to shoot when I fancy a change for the day.
GREAT VIDEO!!!!!!JIMMY THIS GUN IS THE BEST EXAMBLE OF A GREAT MANUFACTURING COMPANY!!!
I wonder how much would it take to engineer and attach a contraption to the side that would feed new shells to that holder like a WW2 anti-aircraft gun.
I owned one in 2014-2016, never again. The development (or marketing) team never asked, why this kind of gun is needed?
You didn’t like it?
@@tgsoutdoors The difficult constrution of the gun made the cleaning quite tricky. When you were shooting like 400 shots in a day, you really needed to clean your gun every day. I bought the gun just because I was mostly interested in the mecahnics, and I got it just for 600€. I didnt have the actual need for sporting shotgun, but for that price its (just a bit) better than Baikal IJ-18. The clay shooting was fun, but with Saga 24g trap shots it wasnt working as it should. It was fine gun with fine wood stocks and everything, but it wasnt a gun made for everyone.
never heard of this but now I want one, seems perfect for a left handed double trap/sporting shooter like me
This has the same "what are they gonna do, call the cops?" energy of the Zip-22's very cool and not illegal underslung rail. Like this really feels like it was supposed to get a "aftermarket" drum mag.
Not sure what's more controversial, the Beretta or those red trainers 😂
Definitely the runners
I know which one I would rather own.
It's cool, but it seems like a solution looking for a problem. I'm sure there are other ways of implementing downward ejection. There are pumps that eject downwards.
Also has the advantage of making a nice sound. Like a movie gun.
*CLUNK!*
That would look cool as hell in a video game. Get a bunch of moving parts on the outside. A few lights and a wacky sight and you would be good to go
I own a Beretta 1301 and Beretta's subsidiary makes the Benelli M4, two GREAT shotguns. Not to mention their A series guns. I can't believe Beretta made this horror. I guess the idea was to have a lighter, handier version of the double barreled skeet and duck gun by removing that heavy extra barrel. While keeping it legal for competitions and some hunting restrictions with 2 rounds. But damn. It would be better to get an automatic shotgun with an unremovable plastic follower restricting it to 2 rounds.
Hey man, thanks for your video, what cartridge do you recon should be used best for this gun ?
That’s one gun i’ve always wanted to try it would be great if Benelli or beretta could come up with a gun like this again with a conventional loading port in a 3 shot or more !
But then it wouldn’t be ‘like this.
@@johnnunn8688 pretty sure you could make something better with a bit of time and effort !
3 shot sounds a bit low. I'll take 8
This gun was expressely made for clay shot, so it intentionally only had only two rounds, to have the masses very centred (no second barrel, no tubular magazine).
This is like... something I'd think an Alien would make after being told what a shotgun was.
As soon as i saw how this works i couldn't help but think what benefits does this provide over a sect 2 semi automatic?
Same problem as the Remington 105 CTI, issues with downward ejection and fussy with shells
70mm cartridges.
As someone who loves firearms with strange/complex actions I can see my self getting one if I could afford it.
UGB actually stands for ugly gun Berretta. That being said I love mine. Great semi for left handed shooters. You soon get used to the release lever with either hand. Bought mine in 2013 and never had a problem with it. I shoot 10 sets of trap twice a week.
Me ha parecido excelente, si el mecanismos no se atasca es perfecta, ayuda mucho un solo cañón a mejorar los disparos, gracias
reminds me of early HMGs/MGs that used those 30 round pan/clip things
I mean, a tube mag does the same thing for cheaper. This looks cool though which is probably the selling point. I'd imagine this gun is also annoying to use during a trap league since you can't catch your shells and need to pick them up. A semi auto shell catcher for a normal gun is $10 but probably doesn't work on this thing.
thats true but for a left handed shooter a shell catcher is really a pain. even so, just getting a left handed gun would be more economical than this but I really like Ambi stuff
Side lever should be made much bigger, so if it jams shut, it can be stood on to force it open.
As a guy who understands things like a low bore centerline, recoil impulse and paranoia at a shooting range, that could well have been a winner with a little more of an elegant exterior and some refinement. But it wasn’t going to impress anyone other than a top level competition shooter so it needed to be a top level design that was highly customizable for the end user and 100% reliable. The average recreational shooter isn’t likely to appreciate its potential benefits. Back before market share and profitability became everything, I think the right company could have made it a winner fifty years ago. Today it either needs to be elegant for the discriminating sportsman or tacticool and being a double shooter only, no chance the tacticool crowd is going to be interested
I sold guns for a living for 15 years. This is the only gun I ever had to look at the manual to assemble out of the box. I honestly didn't have any idea what I was looking at. It is just that different.
Jonny thanks for the review. Having never seen much less shot one, I can only a comment based on you review. It looks like a Frankingun with a good disposition. Or a prototype that escaped the R&D department. I wonder how much of a pain it is to clean.
I like it! Definitely different, hats off to Beretta! I'd love to have one.
The concept was a move in the right direction. If successful it would have decimated the over/under and autoloader market. Beretta should have poured $$$ into Research and Development. I shot a round of skeet with a UGB using an 1-1/8oz 1180fps load. I believe it had 30” with a modified choke. I literally smoked 25 targets, I’m not kidding every shot produced smoke. But in my opinion it did have some recoil. They shouldn’t have discontinued this gun.
I could tell it was Barbury SS in the first second. I love that place!
Neat. Does it come in 10 gauge?
Reminds me of the funky Browning Twelvette.
I like it 👍.
Very good video as usual. Love it 👍👍
Isn't this Val Browning's Double Automatic Shotgun just tweaked a bit and updated?
What I want to know is, once you shoot the first round, can you load another round in the side, shoot the second round, and will that 3rd round load?
I was super confused why a two-shot break action would be considered 'semi-automatic' for a bit there.
Re shotkam. Just looked at the pricing and as im in Australia it gave an option to view pricing in Au $. But if ordering from the uk you dont have to pay vat. I ordered pilla glasses in uk and saved $300, shotkam adjust your pricing minus vat.
The idea that a $2,000 shotgun is not overpriced is crazy
You must be new here
Could you do a video on the Baretta AL 390/400 series that stop ejecting/cycling?
That's the trouble with recoil operated guns, they only work well in a narrow range of ammo power, unlike well designed gas operated ones that just dump excess gas with the more powerful rounds. That's an interesting gum though, but one wonders why they bothered really... :-)
well it's only and sole purpose is clay shooting, and at that i think it's pretty darn great. low recoil, low weight from having a single barrel, ... pretty neat at what it's made for imho.
Interesting, Now thats what i call Innovation.
I wonder if you can constantly top off shells from the side and keep shooting.
Remember when this came out. One of your best vids for a while.
Honestly seems like something you’d see in some near-future sci fi series. High-quality break-barrel sporting shotgun but instead of just being a double barrel its a semi-auto, purely for the sake of “because we can”
You got to ask yourself, why. Why reinvent the over and under trap or skeet gun?
From an engineering perspective, this is super awesome and so different. Thats exactly why I want one!
I searched this gun mid video hoping it would be cheap as an unpopular, discontinued gun but I was rudely surprised by a $4,000 price tag
I can understand completely people being unhappy paying so much money for a gun to not work perfectly. If a $500 shotgun can run any shells you can find, one that costs thousands plural should definitely have a high degree of reliability.
How about a Browning Double Automatic review? Even better would be a side by side comparison!
This kinda reminds me of the ar17 that also was a 2 round semi auto. Totaly different but still
We had one in the shop.
I can tell you exactly why they stopped making it.
We never sold the one we had, and thus never ordered another.
Why?
That's a really cool and unique action!
Never seen it but before probably its just for urope market it's cool
Not sure how useful but for collection and showoff it's must have ..
These are awesome guns held the trap model was really impressive