Controversial Irish REBEL Songs?

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  • @petergrossett6763
    @petergrossett6763 11 місяців тому +114

    ‘Paddy dear, did you hear, the news that’s going round?
    The shamrock is forbidden to grow on Irish ground.’

    • @nunyabiznez6381
      @nunyabiznez6381 5 місяців тому +8

      1903 my great grandfather came to America, specifically to Boston. He liked to grow things and so he brought with him a bunch of seeds of the various plants he would miss the most from Ireland. Among them were shamrock seeds. I live in Florida but my family was from Massachusetts and now are there 7 generations of the diaspora. Here in Florida there is a special spot in my garden where I have about a hundred shamrock plants all descendants from those seeds. Many in my family have grown shamrocks ever since. Should hell freeze over and shamrocks are banned on Irish ground we will keep them growing here and elsewhere (his descendants live in 11 US states, South America, Mexico, The Bahamas, Germany, Denmark, Italy, India, Indonesia and New Zealand) until hell thaws back out once again.

    • @patrickdaly5068
      @patrickdaly5068 3 місяці тому

      @@nunyabiznez6381That is very cool. I wish I had some of those seeds!

    • @BottomOfTheBarrelProductions
      @BottomOfTheBarrelProductions 3 місяці тому +2

      No man St Patrick's may keep his colour to be seen, for there a cruel law against the wearing of the green

  • @kingeatking
    @kingeatking Рік тому +271

    I've been raised around these songs and so will my son. They're not an anthem of hate but an anthem of pride for those who risked and gave up their lives so we could walk free ✊

    • @davyholden
      @davyholden  Рік тому +31

      Couldn't have put it better myself

    • @TP-om8of
      @TP-om8of 10 місяців тому +4

      Nonsense. No one died for “freedom”; they died for the stupidest of causes. If you recall your history, Home Rule was passed and received Royal Assent in 1912 and was due to take effect when WW1 ended. The 1916 rebellion was therefore unnecessary and the ensuing war a disaster. Remember too that more people were killed in the Civil War than in the war for so-called independence.
      Ireland is _not_ independent today; it is a vassal state of the EU. The Irish succumbed to materialism and happily took the cash from their EU overlords so they could have motorways and cheap holidays in Spain. The globalist politicians have encouraged immigration at the expense of ordinary people. (The recent Dublin riot will unfortunately amount to nothing.). Ireland’s morals and values and culture have gone down the toilet, thanks to the 3 main political parties that all have essentially this same agenda. And you call this freedom?

    • @kingeatking
      @kingeatking 10 місяців тому +19

      @@TP-om8of We would have still been under English rule. We would have basically been Scotland. That's not freedom. So yes I would call being part of the European Union as being free. It's not perfect but at least our economy is doing well unlike the UK. Also as bad as our government is at least they're not as bad as the UK government. If you think our government is worse than you haven't been paying attention to UK politics. And yes a lot of people lost their lives but unfortunately that's the price of freedom. As much as you hate the idea of not being under English rule we're free and I'll keep listening to those tunes that celebrate those who give up their lives so we could ALL walk free 🙏

    • @TP-om8of
      @TP-om8of 10 місяців тому

      @@kingeatking Had it not gone down the road of violence, Ireland today might indeed be like Scotland. Or it might be like Canada, or Australia. The point is, it would have chosen the path of peace and the end point most acceptable to the majority of the population. Scotland was of course once an independent nation with its own parliament; that body voted itself out of existence with the Acts of Union in 1706-7. A Scottish parliament was resurrected by referendum in 1997. I remind you that in a more recent referendum, Scotland decided _not_ to pursue independence. (To say Scotland is “under English rule” is so inaccurate it’s positively silly.) All this was done peacefully.
      Unlike Scotland, Ireland was never really an independent nation state, but by 1300 it did have its own Parliament which lasted until 1800, when it too voted to be absorbed into Westminster. The 3rd Home Rule bill, passed as I’ve said in 1912, would have peacefully re-created a Parliament for a united Ireland. But it was scuppered by the violent hotheads who fomented the 1916 rising and drove the subsequent rebellion.
      I imagine you were fed the great myth of Irish independence at school, and it’s not easy to shake off such propaganda. But a dispassionate consideration of the facts may lead you to conclude that choosing violence leads to a never ending cycle of more violence. Such is the lesson of modern Irish history.

    • @chrishilton3626
      @chrishilton3626 9 місяців тому

      @@kingeatking Scotland is under English rule It’s under Scottish rule and British it’s not a colony. Neither is Wales

  • @davyholden
    @davyholden  Рік тому +212

    With all of the controversy in the media right now, here is my take on the whole thing.
    Long live rebel songs! 🇮🇪

    • @sandidavis820
      @sandidavis820 Рік тому +15

      I agree wholeheartedly

    • @sandidavis820
      @sandidavis820 Рік тому +16

      @@beardedman2023 I am agreeing with Davy, LONG LIVE REBEL SONGS!!!

    • @johnwright7731
      @johnwright7731 Рік тому +14

      Davy love the songs and history keep them coming mo chara ✊🇮🇪✊☘️☘️☘️🍀🍀🍀🍀✊🇮🇪✊👏👏👏

    • @Dublinireland5
      @Dublinireland5 Рік тому +12

      We learn some of these songs in London in England in the Irish clubs 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

    • @wolfetonesghost
      @wolfetonesghost Рік тому +13

      Good on ye Davy.
      You are becoming a National Treasure.
      Love the channel. Keep it goin.
      Up the Rebels!!!
      🇮🇪 ⚒️ 🇮🇪
      Saoirse na hÉireann!!

  • @kylefranko6022
    @kylefranko6022 Рік тому +94

    As someone who isn't Irish I love these rebel songs because the idea of rebellion and freedom is something that connects us all. As someone who detests his own political system from all sides these songs are really my jam.

    • @havenoravioi1862
      @havenoravioi1862 11 місяців тому +3

      Tell me your an American liberal without telling me your an American liberal

  • @charlotttehogan8454
    @charlotttehogan8454 Рік тому +64

    These songs were all composed during times of our oppression, so as to act as encouragement and defiance. They are part of our history and achievementsNow our own people are trying to oppress our rights of freedom of expression. The only bans should be to ban the "banners" themselves.. I'll happily sign a petition if there is one.
    Davy, you're doing a great thing - keep up the good work! My best to all

  • @fiarro8112
    @fiarro8112 Рік тому +77

    «Let the people sing their stories and their songs
    And the music of their native land…»

  • @Jen999
    @Jen999 Рік тому +52

    Irish rebel songs tell stories of brave men and women who fought with heart and soul for the grand cause they believed in,, and way too many paid the ultimate price .. and died for it .. these songs commemorate their sacrifice .. they should be revered ,, not banned .. they are forever part of Irish history .. they help us to remember .. and never to forget .. these valiant souls .. ⚘☘
    Jen999💙

  • @williamcannon7262
    @williamcannon7262 Рік тому +78

    Irish rebel songs are part of Irish History and culture and they will remain so.

  • @ThatClanka
    @ThatClanka Рік тому +85

    I’m proud to be an Irishman

    • @seamusoreilly804
      @seamusoreilly804 11 місяців тому +6

      Of course we are! We didn't have a choice: God put us there for a reason.

    • @sinneadfert
      @sinneadfert 3 місяці тому

      Canadian grown with Irish roots. And proudly so

  • @joegravel2488
    @joegravel2488 Рік тому +25

    LOVE THE REBEL SONG*** PLEASE SING IT OUT LOUD***AND BE PROUD OF IT

  • @ohno2112
    @ohno2112 Рік тому +21

    It’s our history and never forget! Words don’t hurt people! People hurt people! No one can hurt you without your permission! Keep singing and be proud of your history!

  • @duibhiruimaolmmhauid9039
    @duibhiruimaolmmhauid9039 Рік тому +39

    These songs are about our history, about our struggles, about us as Irish people.. I play them most days. Tal.

  • @gearoid9835
    @gearoid9835 11 місяців тому +22

    The Wolfe Tones sang Unionist songs like The Sash and The Old Orange Flute. The media never mention that.

  • @anthonyoneill9053
    @anthonyoneill9053 7 місяців тому +12

    I've never heard an established rebel song when we're up to our necks in British ( protestant or any other) persons blood. I'm from the Glen's of Antrim and please protect our martyrs and Patriots deeds and proud name 🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪

  • @adelemarieish
    @adelemarieish Рік тому +30

    Well said. Don't forget the heroes who died or the songs written about them. When I was little my Mam used to sing Kevin Barry to me a very sad but true song.

    • @eilemoo3272
      @eilemoo3272 11 місяців тому

      Yes and Ilove " The Harp the Once " ( sounded)" Through Tara's Hall"

  • @BXMKE
    @BXMKE Рік тому +34

    why would they be banned? That's foolish. Sure maybe in the UK (not saying its justifiable but historically if a nation is trying to control a region like how UK in Ulster, then they oppress/propagandize any rebellion) but again why ban these songs? I've listened to quite a few of them and they're just patriotic which is a virtue to love your country.

    • @54356776
      @54356776 11 місяців тому +2

      They banned English fans from singing anti IRA songs. English fans who had nothing to do with the conflict but who suffered from terrorist attacks. These are pro ira songs, not just traditional or patriotic songs. It's like singing pro hamas songs.

    • @TP-om8of
      @TP-om8of 10 місяців тому +1

      @@54356776Exactly! @BXMKE ‘s comment was the stupidest possible characterisation of Loyalists-coming from someone who has no dog in any of these fights. The myth of England or the UK “oppressing” any part of Ireland is pure ignorant propaganda.

    • @gofriskyourself-truepacife6025
      @gofriskyourself-truepacife6025 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@TP-om8of England literally caused the Irish Potato Famine through their own policies. They stripped away land rights from the Irish and oppressed Catholics (the majority religious group of Ireland), forced the Irish to take English surnames, and worked hard to wipe out Irish culture and language.

  • @johnroche7541
    @johnroche7541 Рік тому +5

    My following post has absolutely nothing to do with pro or anti anything but dealing with both historical accurate facts and the repercussions and consequences of those historical facts today. British people especially will have to realise that the birth of the modern Irish nation went through very difficult labour pains against the British Empire which were revolution and war. For the country even to be called the "Republic of Ireland" was paid in blood just like the title of "The United States of America" was. The Irishmen and women who fought for Irish independence and freedom are looked upon with the same reverence that Americans have for George Washington or Afrikaans(Boers) have for Louis Botha and Jan Smuts. There is monuments,memorials dedicated to those who gave their lives for Irish freedom. There is streets,parks,roads,motorways,housing estates and football clubs named in honour of these men and women. At their core so called "Irish Rebel" songs celebrate the exploits of brave Irishmen and women and there is ballads that lament those who paid the ultimate sacrafice for freedom. Just like there is American folk songs celebrating the American War of Independence and Afrikaan folk songs celebratibg the Boer War. The National Anthem of the Republic of Ireland is more militant than many so called "Irish Rebel" songs. The little knowledge especially among Brirish people of historic events in relation to Ireland is testament to the major chasm of of ignorance in the British education system and the gaps in it's curriculum. The two major political parties in Ireland trace their lineage to men who fought for Irish freedom. Both the Irish Army and state Garda Police Force also trace their lineage to the Revolutionary period and it's aftermath. The father of the current President of the Republic of Ireland fought for Irish independence in Co.Clare during the turbulent period 1919-1921. In Ireland today in a more woke ,snowflake and politically correct environment it is in vogue to criticise "Irish Rebel" songs even by big personalities in the media. Every country that has been involved in wars of Independence,anti colinial struggles,conflicts for liberation and freedom have every right to celebrate their founding fathers. Simple as that.

  • @davidjones6778
    @davidjones6778 11 місяців тому +10

    I'm a Brit and am just learning about Irish history (without a bias twist). As has happened over the past 30 years of my life. Why on earth wouldn't you sing such songs as loud as you can. Its YOUR HISTORY! Glad the Irish team sang it. Long may it be sung. Doesn't mean I'm anti British, pro Irish or whatever. It is history. Interpret it as you will / want. That's free speech.

  • @zellah
    @zellah Рік тому +24

    I’m American. Have you heard the other verses of our National Anthem? 😱 No song should ever be banned. It’s the people’s history.

  • @Michael-xn7ej
    @Michael-xn7ej Рік тому +19

    Longe live to Ireland and their rebel songs from a french of Nice

  • @TheIdlesurfer
    @TheIdlesurfer Рік тому +5

    I think people need to draw a distinction between the original IRA and the Provos. The original IRA would take on Crown Forces but not leave a car bomb with a shite warning in Belfast or Derry or Larne with no risk to the operatives. I'm a Republican and I'd vote for a united Ireland in a heartbeat. Maybe the Provos got their aim but they disappeared enough people in the north, but it was not the square go way of the original IRA. I'm old enough to remember mammies getting disappeared in the seventies or lads from Dublin or Derry or Belfast who joined the British Army with limited choices in life getting murdered and their bodies dumped or never recovered. Civil wars are ugly things. The Provos campaign from the seventies on was ugly and indiscriminate. I don't know what the answer is to Bloody Sunday or the Bogside Massacre but a car bomb in Derry or Belfast seems like shite answer to me. Blowing up wee girls in a dance hall or killing young lads who took the Queen's Shilling doesn't seem a good response to me but there aren't so many songs celebrating the Provos. There is a historic inevitability to a united Ireland but it's so sad so many people died or were mutilated on the way. I'm a lot older than you, but I remember the days of Provos and loyalists doing their mad shite and I'll not be singing songs for any of them.

    • @bigbird6039
      @bigbird6039 11 місяців тому

      Absolutely bang on mate. Where honour doesn’t exist then, neither will respect.

    • @Vvv-1690
      @Vvv-1690 11 місяців тому

      Even the old ira caused massacres to protestants during the 1920s like Altnaveigh.

  • @mareemccarthy3177
    @mareemccarthy3177 Рік тому +14

    These songs are the songs of my family. Those that left their homes in times of war and famine. Those who fought for our freedom and the love of their country. These songs will never be silenced.

  • @framethis
    @framethis 11 місяців тому +6

    Has anyone looked at the lyrics of "Rule Britania" Lyrics
    When Britain first, at Heaven's command
    Arose from out the azure main;
    This was the charter of the land,
    And guardian angels sang this strain:
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."
    2
    The nations, not so blest as thee,
    Must, in their turns, to tyrants fall;
    While thou shalt flourish great and free,
    The dread and envy of them all.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."
    3
    Still more majestic shalt thou rise,
    More dreadful, from each foreign stroke;
    As the loud blast that tears the skies,
    Serves but to root thy native oak.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."
    4
    Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame:
    All their attempts to bend thee down,
    Will but arouse thy generous flame;
    But work their woe, and thy renown.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."
    5
    To thee belongs the rural reign;
    Thy cities shall with commerce shine:
    All thine shall be the subject main,
    And every shore it circles thine.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."
    6
    The Muses, still with freedom found,
    Shall to thy happy coast repair;
    Blest Isle! With matchless beauty crown'd,
    And manly hearts to guard the fair.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."
    So while the Brits are entitled to be never slaves ..We Irish have the same ambitions..

  • @avgriffin
    @avgriffin Рік тому +6

    Newstalk called the wole tones terrorists. Feel like I'm in clown world.

  • @unusedsub3003
    @unusedsub3003 11 місяців тому +17

    I'm from rural Yorkshire, basically a farm lad and my brother is in the Army. I don't have a drop of Irish blood in me. Banning these songs makes me want to down some beers and sing them at them top of my voice. You have a responsibility to record your culture and history through song. Good on ya 👍

  • @assassin1756
    @assassin1756 Рік тому +6

    Rebel songs my offend people but they shall not be banned

  • @petermurphy4428
    @petermurphy4428 11 місяців тому +7

    In our house in Liverpool, we were brought up on irish rebel songs, Aunties, Uncles and visitors would have a knees up every weekend ( accompanied by a few Guinness). I was born in Liverpool with an Irish Father, also Irish Grandparents both sides, so i know my heritage and am proud of it as most Liverpool Irish are. I have mixed views of Irish rebels and Orange songs, purely from the point of view of their ability to stir "the hate"! There was plenty from both sides years ago, thankfully all but gone!! I have to say there are some beautiful and powerful songs from all Ireland's history, agree that these songs maintain a story and indicate Irelands long and troubled times.

  • @carown
    @carown 11 місяців тому +7

    The English try to make us feel ashamed of these songs and our freedom fighters, every Irish person should be proud of the rebel songs.

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      It ain't the English, it is the left, the woke, the globalist, the socialist the open borders blue haired

  • @jofasable
    @jofasable Рік тому +40

    Back in the late 1970s we bought Irish rebel Vinyl records outside the GPO, these records were made in England (Dolphin Records) and they threatened to arrest anyone in possession of such songs.
    I was in the Irish Army 1978/81 with my James Connelly badge and this was also illegal, so they said. i proudly wore it through the gates at Cahill Brugha Bks Rathmines. every day.
    !Up The Rebels!"

    • @JDH-1888
      @JDH-1888 6 місяців тому +1

      I love the rebel songs and I’m Welsh born and bred , regarding the playing of rebel tunes my father and a few of his mates were travelling back from Glasgow to South Wales one time in a minibus in the mid 80’s when they stopped near Carlisle for fuel when they saw a hitchhiker , so they offered him a lift as he was going to Bristol, within 30 minutes he asked to be let out so my father and his mates stopped and said farewell to the guy and carried on to South Wales . My dad says that within 30 minutes of dropping the fella off they got pulled over by 4 police cars and were all held for over 12 hours , the crime playing REBEL TUNES it seems that when the fella got in the bus he absolutely shite himself hearing the songs being sung in the bus and when he got out he called the police , my father just laughed it off

    • @jofasable
      @jofasable 6 місяців тому

      @@JDH-1888 a very good story 🙋‍♂👍 thank you for sharing.

  • @DannyBhoy88
    @DannyBhoy88 11 місяців тому +5

    Why were the Irish freedom fighters called rebels, and French freedom fighters called the resistance?

    • @RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420
      @RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420 3 місяці тому

      The Irish freedom fighters were revolutionaries and heroes

    • @DannyBhoy88
      @DannyBhoy88 3 місяці тому

      @@RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420 I know, but you're missing my point, both fighting for their country yet being called different things. The Irish weren't rebels, they were freedom fighters as were the French

  • @pauls.2526
    @pauls.2526 7 місяців тому +5

    RTE and irish independent should do some real broadcasting and reporting. Not more WOAK crap. I am proud of those irish girls.

  • @michaelmaher8668
    @michaelmaher8668 Рік тому +6

    A bit ironic that this fuss started after a game in Scotland. The song is about a Scottish football team. Its not an Irish Rebel song. The writer of the song will tell you that. As for the real rebel songs they are ballads about people and events in Irish history. Other countries have similar songs too. I don't see anyone wanting to ban Flower of Scotland or the Ballad of William Wallace. Those songs are pretty much about challenging the same foe as the Irish songs are. Why pick on the Irish ones only?

  • @MCKevin289
    @MCKevin289 11 місяців тому +6

    I just played the fields of Athenry and Skibbereen for my students yesterday as a way to introduce immigration to the USA.

  • @MyrddnWllt
    @MyrddnWllt Рік тому +7

    As an Englishman descended of modest northern stock, I whole hearted deplore such a notion.

  • @peterallison-ex4yy
    @peterallison-ex4yy Рік тому +16

    Its my History and events in ballads and songs and i am pround to sing and listen to Rebel songs. No-one can take our history away from us. Our whole Country like you said Davy is based on the men and women who fought for Irish freedom and i for one will never forget them. They sacrificed everything for us and for that i will be eternally grateful 🙏 🇮🇪💚✊

    • @PhilShnider
      @PhilShnider Рік тому

      I wish Roy Keane was there instead of this gentlemen.

  • @karukun0212
    @karukun0212 Рік тому +4

    Lord, the Irish fought 700 years for freedom, and then you can't sing those songs or celebrate that achievement? I hope that my cousins get some gonads and stand up for their rights to express national pride, which does not exclude others from expressing their same pride. Embrace who you are.

  • @x1heisenberg427
    @x1heisenberg427 Рік тому +6

    As an American with mainly English ancestry the Irish rebel songs are a big part of History and has made a big impact all over the world no part of History, no matter how horrible should never be tossed to the side. God save Ireland

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      Ireland is lost, the woke and globalists have destroyed Ireland in favour of iz slime and the third world

  • @darrellmcallister6047
    @darrellmcallister6047 Рік тому +6

    No Irish rebel song should b banned who ever bans these songs are anti Irish and a threat to a free society of Ireland

  • @arthurgoodness7865
    @arthurgoodness7865 11 місяців тому +17

    When in national school (many years ago) we were taught “The Foggy Dew”. There were Catholics and Protestants in our class and no one was offended.
    These songs are part of our culture and we should not be embarrassed about singing them.
    Good luck to anyone if they think that they can ban these songs.

    • @verali164
      @verali164 11 місяців тому

      No one got offended then,

  • @TheEudaemonicPlague
    @TheEudaemonicPlague Рік тому +5

    Life without rebel songs would be very, very dull. One thing I've noticed about rebel songs, is that they're generally really happy or sad...but not so much angry. Most of them are great fun to sing along with.

  • @helenfay8179
    @helenfay8179 11 місяців тому +5

    You have been very balanced in your views. We should always have national pride in our country, our songs and stories, that's what makes our culture.

  • @WeeManSham
    @WeeManSham 11 місяців тому +6

    Songs of love and hope and freedom! 🇮🇪 ☘️ 💚

  • @johnsmith-xr1uh
    @johnsmith-xr1uh 11 місяців тому +7

    One of the first songs I learned to play was boys of the old brigade

    • @newshades7009
      @newshades7009 3 місяці тому

      I am irish decent the first tune I was taught on the box was Sean south

  • @Dublinireland5
    @Dublinireland5 Рік тому +9

    They are rebel songs that represent a free and independent Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

    • @williamwallace4924
      @williamwallace4924 11 місяців тому

      With the globalisation that is happening there soon all those things irish will be eroded?. It will be a different mind set.

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      Yes the yanks were funding the killing of children....then 9/11 made you think !!!🤔

    • @RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420
      @RobairtO-Dhoilingta-n16420 3 місяці тому

      To a 32 county socialist republic! 🇮🇪

  • @hughcampbell463
    @hughcampbell463 Рік тому +7

    I will sing Irish renal songs with pride in my heart them songs tell the story’s of irelands greatest sons and daughters of Ireland and must always be remembered no matter who disagrees 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

    • @pauldunneska
      @pauldunneska 11 місяців тому +3

      I love songs about the kidney as well 😅

  • @olieahern1318
    @olieahern1318 Рік тому +5

    Remember going to the wolfetones years ago and the special branch taking our photos as we queued up to get into the concert happy days great memories 🇮🇪 32

    • @verali164
      @verali164 11 місяців тому

      I bet you thought you were famous.

  • @britnatzaredemocracydenier5922
    @britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 Рік тому +10

    Loving your history bad or good is something to be proud of.
    I'm a Scottish independence campaigner and I can't stand the butchers apron 🇬🇧🤮 I am Scottish and as an O'Neill I love the republic of Ireland..
    I love black and tan and the man from the daily mail

    • @christianwithers7335
      @christianwithers7335 11 місяців тому

      Should your national anthem's second verse singing about crushing the Jacobites continue to be banned?

    • @anthonyferris8912
      @anthonyferris8912 11 місяців тому

      @@christianwithers7335 The second verse that's never sung?

  • @rosss825
    @rosss825 6 місяців тому +2

    I was in a well known dublin establishment last week when my little armalite came on the sound system, shortly after come out ye black and tans came on 😂

  • @michaelodonnell2570
    @michaelodonnell2570 11 місяців тому +2

    Irish rebel music honors Irish Independence and the deplorable way England split Ulster. Ulster as the North Orange Order likes to call itself consists of 9 counties not 6. The song Let the People Sing says it all

  • @ianduncan4143
    @ianduncan4143 11 місяців тому +2

    What there is violonce in rap music and death because of gang rap and yet it gets created Irish rebel songs is there history there great songs and music

  • @kaitlynslaymaker1343
    @kaitlynslaymaker1343 9 місяців тому +3

    The majority of my Spotify wrapped was Irish rebel songs!

  • @reo-julie8865
    @reo-julie8865 7 місяців тому +1

    Years ago i had a tape (yeah a tape 😆 🤣 😂) it was called "songs from the irish revolution" wish i could find it again 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 ❤❤❤

  • @BradBrassman
    @BradBrassman 11 місяців тому +2

    Ive liked these songs ever since I found an early 1960's album of them at a car boot sale back in the late 90's (Foggy Dew, My Old Fenian Gun, Rody McCorley, Barry's Column, Soldiers Song, etc) and it started me on a lifelong interest in the War of Independance. If we ban these Irish songs, which are really folk songs, should we ban ours like High Germany, and Over the Hills and Far Away? I think there are far too many fragile egos these days just looking for things to get offended over!

  • @dogstar5572
    @dogstar5572 Рік тому +2

    If there were no oppression, there would be no rebel songs. They should be a permanent reminder, like the oppression by the British. The IRA adopted the songs, they didn’t write them.
    Do the Americans ban blues music? No. Don’t ban history. It’s an uncomfortable truth. In a time when people couldn’t read and write, they had songs, music, sagas, poems and a whole culture about struggle and a promise of a better time. Ban the songs and erase an important part of history.

  • @BlackCircle25
    @BlackCircle25 11 місяців тому +2

    I think I've got a problem... I'm a very proud Brit but I'm addicted to Irish rebel songs.

  • @elismamma
    @elismamma Рік тому +12

    I’m an American with Irish ancestry. I was recently introduced to Irish rebel songs and I absolutely love them! And they provoke me to go look up the history behind the songs and I’ve learned so very much about Irish history by doing that. Thank you for what you’re doing!

    • @davyholden
      @davyholden  Рік тому +2

      Delighted you're enjoying them! Thank you 😁🇮🇪

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      You along with Biden are not irish, you are English and Scottish, stop hating the U.K. for building your country and giving you everything

  • @webmouse3
    @webmouse3 11 місяців тому +2

    Irish and Scots both have strong histories of rebel songs. The Brits just haven't got songs to match. Sing on, my friends, sing on.

  • @CeilidhMac
    @CeilidhMac 11 місяців тому +4

    I'm a descendant of the Celtic Diaspora, with my strongest connections being to Ireland and Scotland. Learning rebel songs informs my practices as a Celtic Witch following the Old Ways. As a US-born US Citizen living in the US, these songs are my only connection to my history. They are the only foundation of my identity. Without the Irish rebel songs and Scottish Jacobite Rebellion tunes, someone who knows not one word of my ancestral languages is rootless and unmoored. To see them attacked like this.... Well, it is very personal and brings a very ancestral sort of bodily memory to mind. These songs getting all this judging reminds me of all the reasons why I don't speak languages that by every birthright I deserve to know at least a little of. Censorship is very personally threatening to me for good reason. It's why my only fluent language is English, a language I've always stuttered and struggled with-meanwhile I studied German in college and became somewhat fluent rapidly with zero speech production struggles. My heart and my mouth just have a habit of resisting being forced (by linguistic limitations) to speak English.

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 11 місяців тому

      Greetings from a Gael, born in England. I'm 55% Irish, 40% Scots. 5% German DNA.

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      Why are yanks clowns, you speak English very well, you are not German 😂and you fail to realise those yank settlers from Ireland were mainly prods from the north, from lowland Scotland and North England i.e. Anglo saxon, you are therefore Danish. Your mother tongue is old English

    • @Guyfaulkes1605
      @Guyfaulkes1605 3 місяці тому

      But you've written a comment in English!!!!!

  • @Gonosen
    @Gonosen 27 днів тому +1

    I learned them in the house, on the school bus and at Celtic Park.
    I still listen to them and sing them and my boys are now learning them. 🍀🇮🇪💚
    These songs got me reading and learning Irish history and culture.
    "If you know your history" 🎵🎶🎵

  • @Nick-rs5if
    @Nick-rs5if 2 місяці тому +1

    Imagine telling an American that Battle Hymn of the Republic and When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again got banned because they was performed during the Civil War.
    Or that Yankee Doodle was banned because it was written during the revolution... The above-mentioned scenario would probably cause another Civil War.
    For Christ's sake, Ireland fought for their independence and recognition to statehood. Just let the Irish sing their own songs in peace.
    And I have to say while I'm at it. Irish folk music in general are made like it's none other's business. Absolute emeralds! 💚

  • @markzunk8576
    @markzunk8576 11 місяців тому +3

    As an Irish-American, I cherish my heritage of brave freedom fighters.

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      No such thing, you are American. Biden is ethnically English, but American by nationality

  • @JoanKirk-jm5lh
    @JoanKirk-jm5lh 2 місяці тому +1

    I believe in freedom of speech. Banning people from singing whatever they want is despotic. It makes me want to listen to them more and sing them from a roof top. In addition in my opinion songs sung to celebrate throwing off 800 years of appalling colonisation of our ancestors is something to be proud of, I love them ❤❤❤

  • @krisgriffen6290
    @krisgriffen6290 Рік тому +10

    I'll keep singing them from across the pond

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      Even though you are an angloscot

  • @John-om6ld
    @John-om6ld 2 місяці тому

    Seventy five thousand people at Electric Picnic last year and fifty thousand at Finsbury Park last week agree with you. It pissed down at the final London show for the Wolfe Tones last week, but it was the best night.

  • @PaulRGauthier
    @PaulRGauthier 10 місяців тому +1

    Irish rebel songs ring true to oppressed and disenfranchised peoples across the world.
    And those days are NOT long gone. There are still people alive who lived through the occupation. And globally the oppression has never ended. Because it's the same bastards still doing the same thing everywhere.
    Free Palestine!

  • @bmac3093
    @bmac3093 11 місяців тому +1

    If we ban rebel songs we will forget the disgraceful way the Irish were treated by the British occupiers
    Maybe it should be remembered particularly now with the oppression of Palestinians now
    Those songs were about the original ira in the main who fought of an oppressive, cruel and militarily vastly superior occupation to win their freedom. Britain and Ireland should never forget the atrocities carried out by the occupier and the language of British politicians in the last few days about the Israeli occupation of Palestine shows they have already forgotten the cruelty that country inflicted
    The language of Israel mirrors the language of trevelyan and Palmerston as they try to diiminisgnthe humanity of the occupied to justify their oppression

  • @PadraigGrimes
    @PadraigGrimes 2 місяці тому +1

    Jeeese lad, a bit of commonsense like yours is rare today, sing the sing lads, sing them loud.

  • @Mr-Foad
    @Mr-Foad 8 місяців тому +1

    Would make more sense if they sang it after playing England but Scotland is kinda in the same boat as Ireland used to be. In any case people should be able to sing what ever they want...

  • @overlordnat
    @overlordnat 11 місяців тому +1

    As an English socialist Corbynite who vehemently opposes capitalism and imperialism and as a small r Republican (though it’s not up to me what happens in ‘Northern Ireland/the North of Ireland’ of course, it would require a border poll) I love protest songs, very much including Irish Republican ones - along with pro-union songs and some Jamaican songs like ‘The System’ (by Vybz Kartel). Freedom of speech should be absolute, pretty much, and these songs should NOT be banned!

  • @hjmccallister6449
    @hjmccallister6449 11 місяців тому +2

    Kevin Barry is one of my favourites.
    Up the rebels!!

  • @cathydrinkwater1099
    @cathydrinkwater1099 11 місяців тому +3

    And if this were to happen then Rebel songs will be sang all the more.Always the case

  • @benc6252
    @benc6252 Рік тому +1

    Its just pearl clutchers and west brits who just want to get uo on their high horses and act all enlightened.

  • @mnguy98
    @mnguy98 11 місяців тому +3

    American here, I find a lot of Irish rebel music to be really interesting the more I read into the history behind them. Even some of the arguably _more_ controversial ones dating to the Troubles have some interesting backstory behind how and why they came to be. As someone else stated, it's also sort of that spirit of rebellion and independence (which founded us as well) that drives my interest as well. ... that, and they all just happen to have really catchy tunes.

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      Biden, keep your ignorant nose out, by the way you are ethnically English

  • @markoneill9346
    @markoneill9346 2 місяці тому

    I served this country for 36 years, my father, his brothers and his father spend their lives in the military as well, nobody is going to tell me that I can't sing any bloody song I want about our history of liberty and resistance.

  • @theliamofella
    @theliamofella 8 місяців тому

    I am an amateur musician and play guitar and tenor banjo and 5 string banjo and mandolin, my father who recently passed away was my biggest influence on Irish music, he taught me everything from the meaning of songs and who wrote and played them etc,
    He explained to me the difference between playing rebel songs and songs that cause division and separatness and playing rebel music that has hate as the emotional backdrop to playing music that has simply good musicianship and songs that have historical significance but without the condemnation of people who have not a bad bone in their body but maybe are just British (my father was a 100% patriotic nationalist)and since that day I have stopped being playing rebel music as much as I did before

  • @gilbertmoyes2918
    @gilbertmoyes2918 11 місяців тому +2

    So will the Orange Walks also be band ! You can't ban one and not the other.. Maybe the song "There'll Always Be An England" is offensive to the people off Wales, Scotland, Kenya, India and a number of other countries.

  • @michealcushnahan3510
    @michealcushnahan3510 11 місяців тому +1

    Songs keep our history alive they could never ban those songs.

  • @gerrybrown1043
    @gerrybrown1043 11 місяців тому +1

    Not rebels they are freedom fighters look at the history

  • @Polfeck21
    @Polfeck21 10 місяців тому +2

    You can’t forget your history, you need to cherish and celebrate it

  • @GreenLantern1916
    @GreenLantern1916 Рік тому +4

    The idea of banning a song, any song, is ridiculous. If you don't believe in free speech for people who you disagree with, you don't believe in free speech.

  • @MaximusOfTheMeadow
    @MaximusOfTheMeadow Рік тому +3

    Sorry for barging in, dutch anthem is also a rebel song
    The guys who fought against spain sang it on the march

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому +1

      Bloody papists

    • @overlordnat
      @overlordnat 11 місяців тому +1

      The line about being ‘of Germanic blood’ is an odd one as it causes people to think of you as essentially German rather than a people in your own right. Catchy tune though!

    • @MaximusOfTheMeadow
      @MaximusOfTheMeadow 11 місяців тому +2

      @@overlordnat
      Tnanks😂
      It's a reference about our royal family not the dutch people overal. They're of german decent, somewhere waaay back
      What I think is funny is that nobody thinks it's special we have a king. His nickname was PrinsPilsje, That kinda means PrinceShotje. In the sense of a shot of alcohol

  • @davehurley8239
    @davehurley8239 8 місяців тому +2

    It's a part of our history

  • @CountryLifeEngland
    @CountryLifeEngland 11 місяців тому +1

    The songs are songs of freedom and victory. It’s all about culture.

  • @theblackcelt
    @theblackcelt Рік тому +2

    history should never be canceled doesn't matter what is was.

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      Wait until the migrants take over rep Ireland

  • @JimCaputoMusic
    @JimCaputoMusic Рік тому +2

    Rebel songs are an important part of our Irish heritage. Sing them proud and sing them loud!
    And before someone mentions it, don't let my surname fool ya... I've Irish ancestors from all over the island, from Donegal down to Cork and Kerry, with stops in Armagh, Dublin, and Wicklow. I'm very much in tune (pun intended) with my Irish side and Irish culture.

  • @scorpionofallah
    @scorpionofallah 11 місяців тому +1

    too much snowflakes nowadays

  • @MarieRyan-ym3bv
    @MarieRyan-ym3bv 2 місяці тому +1

    Good man Davy 🇮🇪🙏🇮🇪🙏

  • @sisi2484
    @sisi2484 6 місяців тому +1

    West brits and blueshirts ..

  • @ciaranflanagan-g9q
    @ciaranflanagan-g9q 11 місяців тому +1

    They should ban rebel songs said 'The man from the daily mail'

  • @lizm4580
    @lizm4580 8 місяців тому +1

    Keep singing guy's 👏🇮🇪🇬🇧

  • @johnboland6509
    @johnboland6509 11 місяців тому +1

    Long may the rebel songs be played.So proud of them,from irish Boland.

  • @scottishbhoy1987
    @scottishbhoy1987 11 місяців тому +1

    Love Irish rebel songs 🇮🇪 keep on singing ladies and gents from a Scot 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @TheOhioDude
    @TheOhioDude 8 місяців тому +1

    Im an American and I love rebel songs 🇺🇲❤🇮🇪

  • @janAlekantuwa
    @janAlekantuwa 2 місяці тому

    With the English government preparing to tear up the Good Friday Agreement, I'd say that these songs are just as relevant nowadays as they were during the Troubles

  • @goldenbrown0
    @goldenbrown0 11 місяців тому +1

    It could have been worse the manager could have give one of em a kiss! I’m a Brit with a Scottish (Rangers) mum and I for one couldn’t care less . Tbh I think you shouldn’t stop it as you may end up like us Brits…..hanging the Union flag is frowned upon here 😂

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      Woke globalisation fueling the third world take over all that your ancestors built

  • @lynnomara7652
    @lynnomara7652 11 місяців тому +1

    Rebel songs make people think about how people fought for freedom and are very compelling, seems that freedom to express how some cultures evolved is no longer allowed.

  • @ethankerr05
    @ethankerr05 Рік тому

    If irish rebel songs are to be banned then so should any pro british song comparing the worst of the british empire to the worst of the IRA is like comparing the local gang of yobs to john gotti look up what the brits did in kenya india or ireland

  • @BananaPlayzzzz
    @BananaPlayzzzz Рік тому +3

    I love this channel I followed you on tiktok but I got banned from my brother 😂😂

  • @stevendone5493
    @stevendone5493 11 місяців тому +2

    Love Irish rebel songs ! Play them every day and I’m English ! Great songs about brave men and women who fought and died for their country!!!

    • @frankklein4872
      @frankklein4872 11 місяців тому

      That's just weird

    • @stevendone5493
      @stevendone5493 11 місяців тому +1

      @@frankklein4872 why weird ? They are great songs that tell a story about history . Nothing wrong with that . What is wrong is that England had no right in Ireland

    • @anthonyferris8912
      @anthonyferris8912 11 місяців тому

      @@stevendone5493' Play them every day'...that's more than weird.

    • @stevendone5493
      @stevendone5493 11 місяців тому +1

      @@anthonyferris8912 not weird at all . Not really bothered about other people’s opinions anyway . I like Irish Rebel songs and that’s what counts not what other people think

    • @verali164
      @verali164 11 місяців тому +2

      You keep playing them because at the end of the day you dont have to be irish to enjoy those songs. Goes to show you have good taste in music.

  • @kirankumar9434
    @kirankumar9434 6 місяців тому

    I always love the Irish Rebel Songs for the fact that they make the Irish proud of their country and its culture, heritage, history, music and traditions, and for the fact that these are also the songs that ingrain meaning and spirit into the Irish national identity and character and have thus made the Irish into the brave, resilient people (To quote the Wolfe Tones’ “Hibernia”) of today.
    Happy St. Patrick’s Month to all of you!
    ☘️🇮🇪🍀💪💚🤍🧡💪🍀🇮🇪☘️