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@@aliastheabnormal It's not 'cuz there's gonna be two main MS that it's gonna be a Stardust Memory clone. Also, Seed/Destiny were pretty well received in Japan. Seems like peeps of Europe and America are really UC purists. But even UC had its issues with things not really fitting to one another, or characters becoming suddenly super OP.
00:58 I think a better name would've been Fragile Peace. It's easy to remember and it's meta because it evokes the name of Gundam SEED's first episode False Peace.
Bandai pulled a Dio Brando with the MG... Everyone was waiting for the Gundam G Self with the mystery listing on stores, but finally that listing said : "You thought that I was the Gundam G Self Version Katoki, but it was me, the Eclipse Gundam!".
What I find interesting is an organization that specializes in covert operations, doesn't sound like an ograinaztion that was created or even approved by Cagali.
ORB had multiple ruling families. Plus she was definitely greene back then. Between her own Fater, the Sahakus and any other noble entity run by more experienced political players, they can (and have) definitely pull a lot under her nose
Honestly, I really feel like they should have made a post Seed Destiny story. Or better yet, a new timeline all together with much of the same premise just reworked.
@@darthsusanoo5149 he is invincible and ruins armies single handily ...... we should be asking why he wasnt made god king of the entire human race in the end
Orb: We need to make a peace helping team. Orb member: Let's just use a top secret gundam that we have, and help people learn how op we are. Orb: Genius!
It does, I like the concept of genetic engineering and the suits running on power cells and possibly propellantless thrusters as no fuel tanks is visible on them Stargazer is such a relief after watching Destiny. Unfortunately, Stargazer is just a small fraction of the tip of CE iceberg. If any AU needs a soft reboot it's CE.
@@Joshua_N-A "If any AU needs a soft reboot it's CE." I agree, specifically to fix that trash HD Remaster Funimation did, that was just terrible, granted I will say the animation was great, the problem I had with it was the VA's, I litterally could not sense any emotions behind the character's in the first section of the anime, saw first episode was like wtf, jumped a couple still no emotion's, jumped a few more ep's, again no emotion's, I was massively dissapointed with it, and I went and stared watching the OG Gundam Seed as at least I could feel the emotion's from the character's in that version
@@sentasuS049 I don't like the way they reanimate Nicol's death in the remaster, it makes Kira look innocent as the Blitz running into the sword. Should've keep the scene untouched. Cosmic Era got a lot of potential IMO.
The period between SEED and Destiny is like the Versailles Treaty that "ended" World War I. Everyone thinks it's done, but nobody is happy with the result, and it just triggers another one after everybody has rebuilt their forces. And the Eclipse definitely looks out of place in the Cosmic Era. Looks more Iron Blooded Orphans to me.
As much as i like revisiting the CE timeline every now and then, i wish they'd release one of these spinoffs that take place after Destiny. Just about all of them take place between the wars and i'd like to see what happened after the fustercluck that was the later parts of the 2nd war. Does the EA split up or have a civil war? Who answers for Zaft's actions? I feel there's a lot of fertile ground that never gets tapped when they make one of these spinoffs.
Or go with the Universal Soldier treatment. The 2 direct to video Brothers in Arms and Unfinished Business became non-canon after Universal Soldier: The Return was released. Then later Universal Soldier: Regeneration was released, replace The Return's canonity as direct sequel. Eclipse should made like this, rebooting Destiny softly. Extendeds is the closest thing to UniSols in Destiny due to PED they're using. Edit: Regeneration is regarded as the *true* direct sequel to the first Universal Soldier film. So by making an alternate sequel will ignore the latter Astray titles and softly reboot Destiny. Originally, SEED wasn't supposed to have a sequel. Most AUs just stop after a season or two or a movie to wrap it all up.
After Destiny? Hard to say since you know one of its creators have you know died from cancer. I feel like they can only fill in the gaps in the stories but who knows
About that protagonist, Tatsumi Hori, i guess his SEED factor automatically active when he piloting Eclipse Gundam, and it's sounds pretty interesting concept (if that's what actually happen)
or he's a Newtype like they hinted at in Seed/Destiny. which would explain why he can out match coordinators in a mobile suit. Sensing attacks before they happen gives you an edge even when going up against coordinators.
Junichi Akutsu is actually rather central to the aesthetic of Gundam SEED's mecha, as he was the one who originally created the base designs for the GAT-X series of mecha, before they were simplified by Kunio Okawara for animation.
I actually like the design of the eclipse also it's seed colour schemes in seed have been pretty damn transient and adjustable from the outset cause y'know ps armour so it likely has a stealth mode or something we know that orb has the tech for it from like 3 different sources also they have n jammer cancellers so power isn't a concern obvi cause beam shield so we have a nuclear driven suit likely with ps armour that as far as we can tell is compatible with striker packs silhouette packs and wizard packs which makes sense if they are a spec ops unit with limited funding but advanced technology so it can probably dock with a meteor unit as well but again tight budget means we won't see it very often if at all
@@powerist209 nope, Sahaku’s twins are coordinators and they could be other nobilities in Orb that May have first, second or hybrid second generation coordinator offspring.
@@lordalpharius5928 Well, Cagalli's (now ex) husband and his family are pro-OMNI, and Valentine War might have caused tensions between two groups (EA might not be happy but they also know ZAFT attack on colonies).
@@powerist209 first of is called Second PLANT-Earth War. serrans were pro-LOGUS, not pro-OMNI. They just did not want to have an invasion by AF like last time. Also Even if the Sahaku were coordinators, they had plenty of influence with other industrial powers like the BC affiliated AF. Plus I wouldn’t call them an Earth Alliance, because the Alliance were torn from within because of AF pressure and abuse toward Eurasian & REA citizens. Like we seen in Berlin, Suez, etc. I called them OMNI Enforcer or OMNI fir Short or OE. As that is their official military name.
Since this was developed by ORB I would assume that they improved the design of the blitz by adding the ability to use striker packs. Also ORB likes to use striker packs.
when I first saw this I thought this would be in the far future of Seed as Eclipse Gundam looks like something from Gundam 00, as it looks more advised then what we saw in Seed Destiny. As for the color black would be a better option, but almost if not all new main protagonist of Gundam gets the red white, and blue Gundam with gold or yellow areas as a call back to the OG Gundam of Amuro. As for what to call that time, the False Peace after that one EP.
I actually like the design (i always hate the protag color scheme) . It's unique and feels like a mishmash between the Xi and F91, add to that the flight mode actually looks good. Looking forward to the story and games.
I don't really see much of the xi in the eclipse tbh, yes they're both pointy and both mostly white but that's kinda where it ends. It might resemble the xi more thematically once there are chapters of the manga to read which would be interesting to see but I don't think that's going to happen. Also it definitely feels like it was made with the seed master grade artstyle rather than the gundam seed show artstyle if that makes any sense. If the manga uses the master grade designs for the other mobile suits I think it'll look way less out of place as a cosmic era gundam since they'll all be as detailed and sharp as the eclipse (to various degrees) but as it stands it's going to stick out a lot, for better or worse. I do like the design of the eclipse though, as a transforming mobile suit that can use all sorts of striker packs I think it's very neat since the only other transforming MS I can think of that uses striker packs is the vent saviour and even then it wasn't nearly as compatible as the eclipse is.
The Eclipse Gundam looks more like a high speed machine for an F-Zero/IGPX style race than a war machine. Especially the color scheme, I think Sunrise had a racing anime in their old library that had a car that looked like that. Also a completely average guy becoming god-like when piloting a Gundam. Split-personality or an AI doing all the actual work. Place your bets.
would also be a good way to intruduce the production of the Orb Murasume's from "Gundam Seed Destiny" as they didn't exist (in that form) yet in the original Gundam Seed
Oddly I do like it, and it's transformation. I think the colors and some of the angles remind me of the Xenogears from Xenogears, and the Siren from Xenoblade Chronicles two. And I do like that the transformation isn't rotate waist 180%, lay gundam down, spread wings, put shield or tail binder over head AGAIN. Even if I don't like a story, sometimes the suit kits can be fun. I don't know if I'll be getting it, as there's a lot of other stuff I'm interested in. However it honestly feels less like a CE design, than a Build one that used elements from a few continuities, including 00 with those swords. On the weapons... Oh hey flashing back to the X's Shield Beam Rifle, AKA the first thing everyone modified. Expect that to happen in an future Build series. I know that you stated there was a Kira clone, but Miyabi seems to have some Rei Ayanami clone in her design. Well as long as we get some nice MS designs and a solid story I'll be happy.
This should have been in the post Destiny world, showing how even after the wars, people were still fighting. It would be like the Preventers of the Cosmic Era.
Hope the manga will interwine with Destiny Astray, since lots of shit happened during the original Destiny Astray manga. Like, while Setona Winters went to meet with Prayer in a week, the events in that one week were made into a new manga. It's Destiny B iirc. C.E 72 is the year Astray gang is active the most.
They already showed pages of the manga, there the eclipse gundam was equiped with the dragon backpack the same one the new astray redframe PBandai has.
So, what do we think the odds are that this is going to be yet another part of the Ultimate Coordinator project? I feel like this has a lot of earmarks for some form of involvement, what with the 'incredible pilot who sucks at everything else, and is totally a Natural, guys, really'.
Awesome video! Didn't know this was coming to the west in July with the initial release, fingers crossed it's in English. Glad to see someone else covering the people working on it, finding the right SOW and Soga info wasn't easy.
People say the Eclipse doesn't look like it's from SEED, or at least not from that time period. The Astrays were literally being built down the hall from amd along side the G-wepons.... and I know I was like "wtf is this sexy machine way back when I first saw them, before I relized they were SEED machines. Hell! There are seriously some abominations throughout everything "Astray" if you pat attention. If there's one thing I feel the CE illustrates really well, it's sub factions within factions. And the Eclipes looks like another factions' purpose built evolution of the Blitz meets Strike/Aegis
Just to be clear are we still going to get the long awaited sequel to the seed destiny film that was canceled back in 2006. I was told that a TM revolution member asked about it back in 2019 to a staff member and said it was in pre production. I hope we can get that and my friend doesn't even believe me
Personally, I like the Gundam, it looks cool. But yeah, it's a very *busy* looking Gundam. There's a lot happening and it doesn't feel streamline. It would work in another time of Gundam Universe, but it feels out of place in the CE universe. That's because as extravagant as designs in the CE universe are, they still feel streamline. It's what allows them to have crazy add-ons like the Striker Packs, because the mechs themselves act as more formal bases for the more out there packs.
Honestly yeah, same. I was kinda hyped by the prospect of something that might be a bit more thoughtful and less aggressively disregarding of the worldbuilding than Astray, but considering that the whole premise of the manga goes against the entire foundation that Orb is built on, I don't see that happening.
Tatsumi Looks at name, ODR, looks at gundam with a band stealth system, and something that seems to be enhancing his performance. Tatsumi: "Hey Miyabi are we the badess." Miyabi: Internal screaming abounds.
I hope they introduce us to how the eclipse gundam is develop And i would also like to see the first half being the main character piloting a grunt suit rather than a gundam already
The Eclipse Gundam Design looks really sleek. The combo rifles/sabers look cool, but having the rifles mount a beam jitte (like the Gp04) or have the saber extended from the barrel (Like the Zeta) would also be neat (get the enemy in a blade lock. then drop the rifle part and just stab them with the saber). If ORB's involved I would love to see some of the nobility, maybe Rondo Mina Sakahu from SEED Astray, though I'd imagine that they'd want it to stand on it's own.
I like the look and concept of the Eclipse Gundam, but do they have to use another anagram for the "Orb Disaster Relief" Agency? Because you can't take a team seriously when their name is shorthand for ODOR.
Not sure if anyone answered this but the only mobile suit that comes right off the top of my head that uses green beam sabers is the Sword Calamity Gundam.
The eclipse kinda looks like a small Xi or the Penelope gundams. I wonder if the main guys unit have something like the exam or hades system in his eclipse. I could be wrong.
The obvious translation of course would be "the calm before the storm". I don't think those terms are meant to be used as title nouns (i.e. "Bloody Valentine War"), but simply descriptions of what the period was.
The 2nd eclipse gundam looked much better imo since it has that big sensor can like the justice and aegis. Make me wonder if the 2nd machine is red or if it’s a different color
...The only thing I ask for is for either a soft Reboot of Seed Destiny, more solid backstory to clear the more confounding aspects of GSD, or worst-case, give it the ZZ treatment. I feel like the lack of any solid sequels to GSD may be because of how much damage it caused because of fan/creator mishaps. (Edited) From what I heard, the upcoming movie is precisely for satiating the need for a Destiny sequel, so I'm certainly looking forward to that.
just a speculation, I think the Eclipse Gundam is the basis for the Murasame later seen in SEED Destiny, Orb didn't just develop their own transformable MS out of thin air, lol.
@Neo Hyperion They could have simplified the design of the Eclipse's transformation for the Murasame. Just like they did with the Strike and the Strike Dagger. We will know more when the manga drops.
Not sure if you missed it but the second Eclipse Gundam was partially shown in the manga snippet of the SEED Eclipse PV. There was a point where two Eclipse was fighting/training and then showed the head of the second Eclipse Gundam. It has the tall head sensor similar to Aegis or Saviour.
A lot of people seem to complain about Eclipse design a lot which reminds me of the people who complained about Barbatos waist when it was first revealed. At the end of the day, it really didn't matter coz Barbie simply kick-ass.
"Orb foreign affairs intervention branch" Ummm.... what happened to the whole "Orb does not interfere with other nations as long as they don't attack?" Wasn't that kinda the singular defining feature?
in the first series. then their country got nearly wiped out. in Seed Destiny, Cagalli tried to follow in her fathers footsteps but that was thrown out the window pretty quickly and a rival family threw their lot into the Earth Forces.
Ordinators I think would have been way better than being called ODRers, I mean if they really have to give their personnel a name in the first place, which I feel isn't really needed. That being said, it does sound like an interesting premise, just hope it is executed well, seems like they definitely have the talent to make good on this at least.
CE gundams fall into 2 types: practical and gimmicky. I.e. Blitz and Aegis. 1 has a cloaking system for stealth attacks, while the other turns into a crab/squid that has a beam cannon for a mouth. And don't even get me started on the Impulse(let's launch the MS in 3 separate parts. Won't the enemy just shoot down the legs? No way dude the legs have ZAFTs cutting edge Plot Armor system, they're basically indestructible)
I honestly like the design of the Eclipse Gundam. The Mobile Armor mode looks like a Star Destroyer. I'm also a sucker for sheilds and and beam sabers being installed directly into the arm.
I’m torn. As much as I like Seed, did we really need another spin off? I probably would have preferred getting an actual anime on the Astray line that isn’t a single one off ova. Oh well, here’s to hoping this isn’t bad
I really wish there'd be a gundam seed series where we can see kira, athrun & shinn being a team. Just as kira invited shinn to join their fight at the end of seed destiny.
i agree the MS design is weird and like, simultaneously too basic and too busy, but my first thought when i saw it was "oh noooo i told myself i was gonna stop buying seed MGs"
Hmmm... I cannot help but wonder how ODR will get around the globe during their missions. Since this is SEED and I doubt the Eclipse Gundam has a nuclear reactor, therefore, it would need some sort of mothership or at least a mobile base of some sort during its mission. I am guessing either a similar transport plane we see Cagalli and company use to retrieve the Strike after the Marshall Island Battle during the series, or maybe some sort of an actual landship of some sort. There is also the possibility of ODR sporting more then just one plane or ship for different missions. For example, in one mission we could see the organization using a modified Aegis Class ship as a mothership while another mission would see a large transport plane of some sort. Also, I cannot help but wonder on the rest of the story's cast for I seriously doubt ODR just has three people it and I cannot help but wonder how and the means the rest of the cast is going to be introduced. Granted the Astray cast had four people operating a transport ship by themselves while the Serpent Tail sported only a pair of mobile suit pilots and three support members so I can see the main cast being similarly small. Then there is whoever is going to be the "bad" guy in this story, which I am guessing is going to most likely go to be related to LOGOS in some form or even an early appearance of the Patrick Zala Loyalists which will be interesting. Other then that, I must say I am quite excited for this manga and the rest of the Project Ignited stuff we are going to get over the next year or so I am sure. I wonder if whatever the movie happens to be is going to be released on the actual 20th anniversary of the series which is sometime next year. I am also quite excited that this manga will be available here in the states especially after the more recent Astray Mangas not being seen in the states. Meanwhile the new video game I really hope we get more about it soon for I would love to have another Gundam video game. For I haven't had an actual good Gundam game that I enjoyed playing since the AEUG vs the Titans game. Everything else either was released on a platform I did not have at the time or was just released in Japan. Okay. Those are my current thoughts on this news. Thank you Kakarot for bringing all of this to our attention.
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I'll be waiting for P-Bandai release of Unit 2 (Dark color scheme )
Sadly this Stardust Memory clone won't turn SEED into a MEN OF DESTINY.
@@aliastheabnormal It's not 'cuz there's gonna be two main MS that it's gonna be a Stardust Memory clone. Also, Seed/Destiny were pretty well received in Japan. Seems like peeps of Europe and America are really UC purists. But even UC had its issues with things not really fitting to one another, or characters becoming suddenly super OP.
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00:58 I think a better name would've been Fragile Peace. It's easy to remember and it's meta because it evokes the name of Gundam SEED's first episode False Peace.
What we know:
Eclipse Gundam is like Xi Gundam of Cosmic Era with Musai mobile armor mode.
Not Valhawk?
@@Madao_Aniki The MA mode is definitely Valhawk but the MS mode is a bit of Xi there.
Eclipse Gundam is the son of XI gundam
It looks like Seed wants Hathaways Flash Gundams.
Or Advance of Zeta
I think Sword Calamity had green beam saber blades
It did
It does and I do believe that's the only one that had green anti-ship swords
Correct :) and kakarot failed to know that
Me: Sweet more CE content I can't wait to see what happens after se-
*Story takes place between Seed and Seed Destiny*
Me: GOD DAMMIT!
It is after Seed.
@@nikoladedic6623 he meant after seed destiny.
@@darkkira1332 There's a movie for that. I'm surprised so many people are confused about this.
god damn it indeed
At least the Eclipse doesn't look like a buckle down Gundam underneath when it transforms.
I'd rather have the EMS-Tc02 Phantom as its transformation is simpler.
@Neo Hyperion was about to say that too XD
"Off brand Kira Yamato" lolz x3
This guy is already the third coming of Jesus in the Seed universe.
False Jesus kun
Bandai pulled a Dio Brando with the MG... Everyone was waiting for the Gundam G Self with the mystery listing on stores, but finally that listing said : "You thought that I was the Gundam G Self Version Katoki, but it was me, the Eclipse Gundam!".
Mu la flaga tactics
If it is to be pronounced as order shouldn't they have made the acronym ORDR not ODR which seems like it would be pronounced as odor.
Japanese pronounce Order as 'Oda'.
Same as they would with ODR.
@@mechasatsu6214 Who else thinks this is a waste of a perfectly good Nobunaga reference?
I have a gut feeling we'll be pronouncing it "odor" once it comes out. Hope I'm wrong though.
Personally I'd rather just call them "The ODR" as the acronym. Trying to make an acronym into an actual word just seems kinda tacky to be honest.
got an Eclipse Gundam between two Bloody Valentines? gotta be the Total Eclipse Of The Heart era
I just might be old, but i just loved the pun.
What I find interesting is an organization that specializes in covert operations, doesn't sound like an ograinaztion that was created or even approved by Cagali.
ORB had multiple ruling families. Plus she was definitely greene back then. Between her own Fater, the Sahakus and any other noble entity run by more experienced political players, they can (and have) definitely pull a lot under her nose
Honestly, I really feel like they should have made a post Seed Destiny story. Or better yet, a new timeline all together with much of the same premise just reworked.
I wanna know how kira became a zaft white.
@@darthsusanoo5149 he is invincible and ruins armies single handily ...... we should be asking why he wasnt made god king of the entire human race in the end
That is what the Seed Movie is for.
A new timeline will defeat the purpose of the SEED Ignited anniversary project.
You want a new timeline, go play Super Robot Wars Z.
Suggestion for a better Title: The Calm Before the Storm...and for something more 'comical'....'Half-Time'
Half-Time: Full-Time Consequences
@@DashsChannel holy shit I almost died because of you, nearly killed meself laughin. good shit
Orb: We need to make a peace helping team.
Orb member: Let's just use a top secret gundam that we have, and help people learn how op we are.
Orb: Genius!
I wonder If Bandai will make a new universe anytime soon.
Maybe
Honestly i think the eclipse gundam would fit more a new au rather then the cosmic era
Under the Double Fake and Revival of Zeon would nake GREAT animated series.
I mean, it's been six years since IBO premiered, so...
@@algernonilfracombe
Was that the last new universe they made?
CE Is a timeline with great potential
I'm happy that they bring more stuff to this timeline
It does, I like the concept of genetic engineering and the suits running on power cells and possibly propellantless thrusters as no fuel tanks is visible on them Stargazer is such a relief after watching Destiny. Unfortunately, Stargazer is just a small fraction of the tip of CE iceberg. If any AU needs a soft reboot it's CE.
@@Joshua_N-A "If any AU needs a soft reboot it's CE." I agree, specifically to fix that trash HD Remaster Funimation did, that was just terrible, granted I will say the animation was great, the problem I had with it was the VA's, I litterally could not sense any emotions behind the character's in the first section of the anime, saw first episode was like wtf, jumped a couple still no emotion's, jumped a few more ep's, again no emotion's, I was massively dissapointed with it, and I went and stared watching the OG Gundam Seed as at least I could feel the emotion's from the character's in that version
@@sentasuS049 I don't like the way they reanimate Nicol's death in the remaster, it makes Kira look innocent as the Blitz running into the sword. Should've keep the scene untouched. Cosmic Era got a lot of potential IMO.
@@Joshua_N-A didn't go that far into the remaster
The period between SEED and Destiny is like the Versailles Treaty that "ended" World War I. Everyone thinks it's done, but nobody is happy with the result, and it just triggers another one after everybody has rebuilt their forces.
And the Eclipse definitely looks out of place in the Cosmic Era. Looks more Iron Blooded Orphans to me.
I agree on the Eclipse looking out o place. It looks kinda like an IBO machine crossed with a 00 machine to me.
Agreed. The features do not match with the designs of both Seed and Destiny
@Neo Hyperion you guys look like you haven't seen the Aegis?
@@wanderingbufoon agreed
@@rdraken to me looks like advance of zeta
CE is one of the coolest Gundam settings, glad to see it making a comeback.
Great potential but it didn't materialized due to writing in GSD. Stargazer was a relief after watching GSD.
Could just call the between wars period as "Interwar"
The Eclipse Gundam feels like a 00 suit that got lost along the way. Even has a GN Sword II thing going on.
As much as i like revisiting the CE timeline every now and then, i wish they'd release one of these spinoffs that take place after Destiny. Just about all of them take place between the wars and i'd like to see what happened after the fustercluck that was the later parts of the 2nd war. Does the EA split up or have a civil war? Who answers for Zaft's actions? I feel there's a lot of fertile ground that never gets tapped when they make one of these spinoffs.
Or go with the Universal Soldier treatment. The 2 direct to video Brothers in Arms and Unfinished Business became non-canon after Universal Soldier: The Return was released. Then later Universal Soldier: Regeneration was released, replace The Return's canonity as direct sequel. Eclipse should made like this, rebooting Destiny softly. Extendeds is the closest thing to UniSols in Destiny due to PED they're using.
Edit: Regeneration is regarded as the *true* direct sequel to the first Universal Soldier film. So by making an alternate sequel will ignore the latter Astray titles and softly reboot Destiny. Originally, SEED wasn't supposed to have a sequel. Most AUs just stop after a season or two or a movie to wrap it all up.
After Destiny? Hard to say since you know one of its creators have you know died from cancer. I feel like they can only fill in the gaps in the stories but who knows
@@BeyondDaX They are making a movie that takes place after Destiny.
@@NYSportsfan4 I find that X to doubt on that one chief. But we'll see
@@BeyondDaX director said its in production, whether it is completed and released is another story
The Sword Calamity had green beams for its Anti Ship Swords. The Hyperion also had green beam knives.
About that protagonist, Tatsumi Hori, i guess his SEED factor automatically active when he piloting Eclipse Gundam, and it's sounds pretty interesting concept (if that's what actually happen)
or he's a Newtype like they hinted at in Seed/Destiny. which would explain why he can out match coordinators in a mobile suit. Sensing attacks before they happen gives you an edge even when going up against coordinators.
What I know:
-I don't particularly care about CE and its story.
-Eclipse Gundam looks dope as hell.
The Eclipse Gundam has those retro Dragonar colors.
I agree, the Eclipse Gundam looks a bit too busy for a SEED universe MS. A bit of streamlining will make it better tho
The Eclipse is gonna get GP'd at the end. So it never happened anyways.
@manny022 Main OG Mecha.
Valhawk is not a Mobile Suit.
The Eye of the Storm or The Peacetime are two potential ideas
Oh and I am buying one or two of the Eclipse Gundams.
This seems to be one of the few designs that look better in kit form than in line art form
True, It's less busy looking in the physical form than on paper, oddly enough.
Junichi Akutsu is actually rather central to the aesthetic of Gundam SEED's mecha, as he was the one who originally created the base designs for the GAT-X series of mecha, before they were simplified by Kunio Okawara for animation.
I actually like the design of the eclipse also it's seed colour schemes in seed have been pretty damn transient and adjustable from the outset cause y'know ps armour so it likely has a stealth mode or something we know that orb has the tech for it from like 3 different sources also they have n jammer cancellers so power isn't a concern obvi cause beam shield so we have a nuclear driven suit likely with ps armour that as far as we can tell is compatible with striker packs silhouette packs and wizard packs which makes sense if they are a spec ops unit with limited funding but advanced technology so it can probably dock with a meteor unit as well but again tight budget means we won't see it very often if at all
I don’t think it’s because she a coordinator, but more to do being an orb nobility. As we seen in astray
I though Orb nobilities are mostly Natural, assuming if they start purges in Destiny but Cagalli isn’t one.
@@powerist209 nope, Sahaku’s twins are coordinators and they could be other nobilities in Orb that May have first, second or hybrid second generation coordinator offspring.
@@lordalpharius5928 Well, Cagalli's (now ex) husband and his family are pro-OMNI, and Valentine War might have caused tensions between two groups (EA might not be happy but they also know ZAFT attack on colonies).
@@powerist209 first of is called Second PLANT-Earth War. serrans were pro-LOGUS, not pro-OMNI. They just did not want to have an invasion by AF like last time.
Also Even if the Sahaku were coordinators, they had plenty of influence with other industrial powers like the BC affiliated AF.
Plus I wouldn’t call them an Earth Alliance, because the Alliance were torn from within because of AF pressure and abuse toward Eurasian & REA citizens. Like we seen in Berlin, Suez, etc. I called them OMNI Enforcer or OMNI fir Short or OE. As that is their official military name.
Since this was developed by ORB I would assume that they improved the design of the blitz by adding the ability to use striker packs. Also ORB likes to use striker packs.
I love the pointy boi design and it can transform too? *chef's kiss*
it can also mount strike/zaku backpack
Am i the only one who loves the eclipse design? Also looking very forward for it
The time name should Reload & Rearm.
when I first saw this I thought this would be in the far future of Seed as Eclipse Gundam looks like something from Gundam 00, as it looks more advised then what we saw in Seed Destiny.
As for the color black would be a better option, but almost if not all new main protagonist of Gundam gets the red white, and blue Gundam with gold or yellow areas as a call back to the OG Gundam of Amuro.
As for what to call that time, the False Peace after that one EP.
I actually like the design (i always hate the protag color scheme) . It's unique and feels like a mishmash between the Xi and F91, add to that the flight mode actually looks good. Looking forward to the story and games.
the character art reminds me of the devil survivor games on ds/3ds
I don't really see much of the xi in the eclipse tbh, yes they're both pointy and both mostly white but that's kinda where it ends. It might resemble the xi more thematically once there are chapters of the manga to read which would be interesting to see but I don't think that's going to happen.
Also it definitely feels like it was made with the seed master grade artstyle rather than the gundam seed show artstyle if that makes any sense. If the manga uses the master grade designs for the other mobile suits I think it'll look way less out of place as a cosmic era gundam since they'll all be as detailed and sharp as the eclipse (to various degrees) but as it stands it's going to stick out a lot, for better or worse. I do like the design of the eclipse though, as a transforming mobile suit that can use all sorts of striker packs I think it's very neat since the only other transforming MS I can think of that uses striker packs is the vent saviour and even then it wasn't nearly as compatible as the eclipse is.
Also also,
Why can't we get any of the Astray mangas animated?
We gotta wait at least 20-30 years before they even ponder that lol
The Eclipse Gundam looks more like a high speed machine for an F-Zero/IGPX style race than a war machine. Especially the color scheme, I think Sunrise had a racing anime in their old library that had a car that looked like that.
Also a completely average guy becoming god-like when piloting a Gundam. Split-personality or an AI doing all the actual work. Place your bets.
Funny i thought the same thing but it does resembled to Villkiss
I did not except this and please make a review video when it come up. I am kinda excited and could be a little better.
would also be a good way to intruduce the production of the Orb Murasume's from "Gundam Seed Destiny" as they didn't exist (in that form) yet in the original Gundam Seed
I just finished rewatching Seed & Seed Destiny today to prepare for Seed Eclipse.
Oddly I do like it, and it's transformation. I think the colors and some of the angles remind me of the Xenogears from Xenogears, and the Siren from Xenoblade Chronicles two. And I do like that the transformation isn't rotate waist 180%, lay gundam down, spread wings, put shield or tail binder over head AGAIN. Even if I don't like a story, sometimes the suit kits can be fun. I don't know if I'll be getting it, as there's a lot of other stuff I'm interested in. However it honestly feels less like a CE design, than a Build one that used elements from a few continuities, including 00 with those swords.
On the weapons... Oh hey flashing back to the X's Shield Beam Rifle, AKA the first thing everyone modified. Expect that to happen in an future Build series.
I know that you stated there was a Kira clone, but Miyabi seems to have some Rei Ayanami clone in her design.
Well as long as we get some nice MS designs and a solid story I'll be happy.
I guess a better name would be The collapsing peace? Idk I think it nice. Lol
This should have been in the post Destiny world, showing how even after the wars, people were still fighting. It would be like the Preventers of the Cosmic Era.
Hope the manga will interwine with Destiny Astray, since lots of shit happened during the original Destiny Astray manga. Like, while Setona Winters went to meet with Prayer in a week, the events in that one week were made into a new manga. It's Destiny B iirc. C.E 72 is the year Astray gang is active the most.
The shield is reminiscent of those effects from build diver and Gundam 00.. it kind of follow the design aspects of xi and Penelope..yes looks busy..
They already showed pages of the manga, there the eclipse gundam was equiped with the dragon backpack the same one the new astray redframe PBandai has.
So, what do we think the odds are that this is going to be yet another part of the Ultimate Coordinator project? I feel like this has a lot of earmarks for some form of involvement, what with the 'incredible pilot who sucks at everything else, and is totally a Natural, guys, really'.
Awesome video! Didn't know this was coming to the west in July with the initial release, fingers crossed it's in English. Glad to see someone else covering the people working on it, finding the right SOW and Soga info wasn't easy.
as far as I know, Eclipse unit 2 shares the same color scheme as the Blitz (or Aegis) and it had a horn/forehead antenna similar to the Aegis/Justice.
People say the Eclipse doesn't look like it's from SEED, or at least not from that time period.
The Astrays were literally being built down the hall from amd along side the G-wepons.... and I know I was like "wtf is this sexy machine way back when I first saw them, before I relized they were SEED machines.
Hell! There are seriously some abominations throughout everything "Astray" if you pat attention. If there's one thing I feel the CE illustrates really well, it's sub factions within factions. And the Eclipes looks like another factions' purpose built evolution of the Blitz meets Strike/Aegis
I concur with the Black paintjob for stealth. But the Blue/white gives you plot armour.
Just to be clear are we still going to get the long awaited sequel to the seed destiny film that was canceled back in 2006. I was told that a TM revolution member asked about it back in 2019 to a staff member and said it was in pre production. I hope we can get that and my friend doesn't even believe me
I thought it was canceled in 2016 after Morisawa's death.
@@shdghost8872 sorta when she passed away but they decided to restart it again. I hope we still get it
@Emperor Maoh Shin Chandelier Mirage I hope it comes through
Personally, I like the Gundam, it looks cool. But yeah, it's a very *busy* looking Gundam. There's a lot happening and it doesn't feel streamline. It would work in another time of Gundam Universe, but it feels out of place in the CE universe. That's because as extravagant as designs in the CE universe are, they still feel streamline. It's what allows them to have crazy add-ons like the Striker Packs, because the mechs themselves act as more formal bases for the more out there packs.
I was excited at first and then grew into disappointing.
Honestly yeah, same. I was kinda hyped by the prospect of something that might be a bit more thoughtful and less aggressively disregarding of the worldbuilding than Astray, but considering that the whole premise of the manga goes against the entire foundation that Orb is built on, I don't see that happening.
Tatsumi Looks at name, ODR, looks at gundam with a band stealth system, and something that seems to be enhancing his performance.
Tatsumi: "Hey Miyabi are we the badess."
Miyabi: Internal screaming abounds.
I hope they introduce us to how the eclipse gundam is develop
And i would also like to see the first half being the main character piloting a grunt suit rather than a gundam already
The Eclipse Gundam Design looks really sleek. The combo rifles/sabers look cool, but having the rifles mount a beam jitte (like the Gp04) or have the saber extended from the barrel (Like the Zeta) would also be neat (get the enemy in a blade lock. then drop the rifle part and just stab them with the saber). If ORB's involved I would love to see some of the nobility, maybe Rondo Mina Sakahu from SEED Astray, though I'd imagine that they'd want it to stand on it's own.
It looks like a Gundam 00 design with a few design elements borrowed from IBO.
I like the look and concept of the Eclipse Gundam, but do they have to use another anagram for the "Orb Disaster Relief" Agency? Because you can't take a team seriously when their name is shorthand for ODOR.
Bee craft. Man his works on classic mg manuals are gold.
Not sure if anyone answered this but the only mobile suit that comes right off the top of my head that uses green beam sabers is the Sword Calamity Gundam.
The eclipse kinda looks like a small Xi or the Penelope gundams. I wonder if the main guys unit have something like the exam or hades system in his eclipse. I could be wrong.
The obvious translation of course would be "the calm before the storm". I don't think those terms are meant to be used as title nouns (i.e. "Bloody Valentine War"), but simply descriptions of what the period was.
If you get to read the SEED Eclipse manga, please make a video on summarising the story.
The 2nd eclipse gundam looked much better imo since it has that big sensor can like the justice and aegis. Make me wonder if the 2nd machine is red or if it’s a different color
I'll call the break
"Before Shinn HAHHHHHH!"
Needs work unless this is some meme
The Eclipse Gundam reminds me of the Build series of Gundams.
Love your vids man
...The only thing I ask for is for either a soft Reboot of Seed Destiny, more solid backstory to clear the more confounding aspects of GSD, or worst-case, give it the ZZ treatment.
I feel like the lack of any solid sequels to GSD may be because of how much damage it caused because of fan/creator mishaps.
(Edited) From what I heard, the upcoming movie is precisely for satiating the need for a Destiny sequel, so I'm certainly looking forward to that.
just a speculation, I think the Eclipse Gundam is the basis for the Murasame later seen in SEED Destiny, Orb didn't just develop their own transformable MS out of thin air, lol.
They both have similar model #s. MVF-X08 Eclipse Gundam. MVF-M11C Murasame.
@Neo Hyperion They could have simplified the design of the Eclipse's transformation for the Murasame. Just like they did with the Strike and the Strike Dagger. We will know more when the manga drops.
Not sure if you missed it but the second Eclipse Gundam was partially shown in the manga snippet of the SEED Eclipse PV. There was a point where two Eclipse was fighting/training and then showed the head of the second Eclipse Gundam. It has the tall head sensor similar to Aegis or Saviour.
The calm before the second storm.
The Commercial Break Between Shows!
Lets not forget about there is going to be a new Gundam Seed movie coming out next year.
I wonder what acronym for G.U N.D.A.M will be this time when thats start button is pushed..
The Cold Churn.....knowing that peace will never hold.
So the kira clone has as last name "Suse"
Suse -> Sus
Is that a Among us reference
seems sus to me XD
I say we vote him out into space.
Suse as in Je-Suse
A lot of people seem to complain about Eclipse design a lot which reminds me of the people who complained about Barbatos waist when it was first revealed. At the end of the day, it really didn't matter coz Barbie simply kick-ass.
"Orb foreign affairs intervention branch" Ummm.... what happened to the whole "Orb does not interfere with other nations as long as they don't attack?" Wasn't that kinda the singular defining feature?
in the first series. then their country got nearly wiped out. in Seed Destiny, Cagalli tried to follow in her fathers footsteps but that was thrown out the window pretty quickly and a rival family threw their lot into the Earth Forces.
8:50 write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!!!!!!!!!
Ordinators I think would have been way better than being called ODRers, I mean if they really have to give their personnel a name in the first place, which I feel isn't really needed. That being said, it does sound like an interesting premise, just hope it is executed well, seems like they definitely have the talent to make good on this at least.
Too close to Coordinators.
I’ll probably get the kit and customize it a bit but the eclipse looks a lot like something from the Build series
the calm before the storm
The Calm between two wars
CE gundams fall into 2 types: practical and gimmicky. I.e. Blitz and Aegis. 1 has a cloaking system for stealth attacks, while the other turns into a crab/squid that has a beam cannon for a mouth. And don't even get me started on the Impulse(let's launch the MS in 3 separate parts. Won't the enemy just shoot down the legs? No way dude the legs have ZAFTs cutting edge Plot Armor system, they're basically indestructible)
The "Akito the Exiled" of Gundam SEED
I honestly like the design of the Eclipse Gundam. The Mobile Armor mode looks like a Star Destroyer. I'm also a sucker for sheilds and and beam sabers being installed directly into the arm.
I’m torn. As much as I like Seed, did we really need another spin off? I probably would have preferred getting an actual anime on the Astray line that isn’t a single one off ova. Oh well, here’s to hoping this isn’t bad
Eclipse is absolutely a ValHawk with Hyperion tech as its also used green energy for shield and weapons
I really wish there'd be a gundam seed series where we can see kira, athrun & shinn being a team. Just as kira invited shinn to join their fight at the end of seed destiny.
play SRW V, it has post destiny story, unlike srw Z where shinn is friendly with kira, in V he is totally awkward when meeting with kira again
Let's just call it Gundam: Peace at our time.
I remember a Gundam in Never ending tomorrow using green shields
i agree the MS design is weird and like, simultaneously too basic and too busy, but my first thought when i saw it was "oh noooo i told myself i was gonna stop buying seed MGs"
When you see unit 2 head. Your mind will resemble unit eclipse 1 & 2 as strike-aegis or freedom-justice
YES another MS design from Cosmic Era
5:41
that make him newtype
Hmmm... I cannot help but wonder how ODR will get around the globe during their missions. Since this is SEED and I doubt the Eclipse Gundam has a nuclear reactor, therefore, it would need some sort of mothership or at least a mobile base of some sort during its mission. I am guessing either a similar transport plane we see Cagalli and company use to retrieve the Strike after the Marshall Island Battle during the series, or maybe some sort of an actual landship of some sort. There is also the possibility of ODR sporting more then just one plane or ship for different missions. For example, in one mission we could see the organization using a modified Aegis Class ship as a mothership while another mission would see a large transport plane of some sort.
Also, I cannot help but wonder on the rest of the story's cast for I seriously doubt ODR just has three people it and I cannot help but wonder how and the means the rest of the cast is going to be introduced. Granted the Astray cast had four people operating a transport ship by themselves while the Serpent Tail sported only a pair of mobile suit pilots and three support members so I can see the main cast being similarly small. Then there is whoever is going to be the "bad" guy in this story, which I am guessing is going to most likely go to be related to LOGOS in some form or even an early appearance of the Patrick Zala Loyalists which will be interesting.
Other then that, I must say I am quite excited for this manga and the rest of the Project Ignited stuff we are going to get over the next year or so I am sure. I wonder if whatever the movie happens to be is going to be released on the actual 20th anniversary of the series which is sometime next year. I am also quite excited that this manga will be available here in the states especially after the more recent Astray Mangas not being seen in the states. Meanwhile the new video game I really hope we get more about it soon for I would love to have another Gundam video game. For I haven't had an actual good Gundam game that I enjoyed playing since the AEUG vs the Titans game. Everything else either was released on a platform I did not have at the time or was just released in Japan.
Okay. Those are my current thoughts on this news. Thank you Kakarot for bringing all of this to our attention.