VTuber Tropes: The Gremlin and the War Criminal

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  • Being one of the most popular tropes of all time, the Gremlin and the War Criminal are a very profitable, and very common trope that many VTubers embody, and in this video. We unravel that.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 107

  • @Angrenost02
    @Angrenost02 10 місяців тому +279

    The hammer of karma falling upon Pekora's smugness will always be top comical content.

  • @GameSpreePH
    @GameSpreePH 10 місяців тому +193

    Meanwhile Millie’s hat has more parasocial fans than Millie

    • @shaoronmd
      @shaoronmd 10 місяців тому +14

      RIP Millie's hat

    • @ArcaneMaiden
      @ArcaneMaiden 10 місяців тому +4

      o7

    • @Dyleniz
      @Dyleniz 10 місяців тому +2

      I miss Millies hat

    • @LGKamina
      @LGKamina 9 місяців тому +3

      That hat has very seductive curves, unlike millie😊

    • @somerandomdude3729
      @somerandomdude3729 8 місяців тому +2

      As a tf2 player I am obliged to ask for the hat.

  • @moisesfreire6408
    @moisesfreire6408 10 місяців тому +121

    It's safe to say "War Criminal trope" was specifically single handedly set by Pekora.

  • @gammathefool
    @gammathefool 10 місяців тому +153

    Actually, Jesters did run a risk of being "Graduated" if the news they brought displeased the king or got him in a foul mode, it was more the role of lovable fool that didn't know better that acted as a shield (so it is actually a very apt analogy)

    • @ifdy1361
      @ifdy1361 10 місяців тому +12

      Graduated from the face of the earth

    • @malcovich_games
      @malcovich_games 10 місяців тому +7

      The royalty's level of tolerance for a jester is much higher than the average citizen at least (otherwise they wouldn't have the job in the first place).
      An average peasant would be "graduated" much faster for a joke than the jester. Though there's still definitely a limit that depends on the jester's employer.

    • @ZAV1944
      @ZAV1944 7 місяців тому +2

      I read somewhere that Jesters often were mentally handicapped in some way. Not sure if this is true but may also contribute to why they could get away with some things, the king could be like: "The court jester doth be an idiot and a fool thus the weight of his words beith none."

  • @kilan4978
    @kilan4978 10 місяців тому +144

    Great vid, kinda shocking you didnt mention chibidoki and using her as an example of someone who is at constant war with her chat

  • @lolialf
    @lolialf 10 місяців тому +87

    think we all can agree Pekora is the peak in this archetype

    • @Chamadzero
      @Chamadzero 10 місяців тому +14

      She is the whole archetype

  • @risktorise2103
    @risktorise2103 10 місяців тому +60

    That's an interesting way to explain a gremlin troupe.
    Regarding a tomboy hag ,I wonder if Matara can be considered close to such troupe.

  • @yohannbiimu
    @yohannbiimu 10 місяців тому +30

    My favorite is Sakura Miko shouting at everyone "GO HOME!" as she snipes them, or getting upset that nobody is paying any attention to her as she's committing atrocities in broad daylight.

  • @SWIFTO_SCYTHE
    @SWIFTO_SCYTHE 10 місяців тому +58

    Shondo and Pippa are my Gremlins !

    • @VexValac
      @VexValac 10 місяців тому +10

      I find it funny that whenever she's with other gremlins, she tends to become the voice of reason, lol

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster 10 місяців тому +5

      seems like being a "gremlin" is almost the default for all female vtubers now,

    • @inendlesspain4724
      @inendlesspain4724 10 місяців тому +2

      @@VexValac True, she's the sanest gremlin in the VTuber community.

  • @yoman8027
    @yoman8027 10 місяців тому +47

    I was under the impression that a "gremlin" was just a girl with a high pitch voice. Oh, how wrong I was. Very informative video.
    Also, yeah, a hag tomboy would be interesting. Or a tomboy mommy.

    • @Solus749
      @Solus749 10 місяців тому

      a tomboy is just a female with some intrests that some consider male...there is nothing special about it...as in why should intrests be genderflagged at all?

  • @swordsman1_messer
    @swordsman1_messer 10 місяців тому +15

    War criminals, tomboy hags and gremlins?
    Nousagi, can I introduce you to Whiskey_Project, the Tactical Tomboy VTuber?

  • @kinglightning5256
    @kinglightning5256 10 місяців тому +31

    Imo Hololive have 4 of the best members when it comes to this trope. Pekora,subaru,miko,kobo. I know kobo is a brat but she has her comedian moments.

  • @RambleOn07
    @RambleOn07 10 місяців тому +60

    Tenma Maemi bullies blind people, that's why she's my oshi.

    • @liettdyved8633
      @liettdyved8633 10 місяців тому +10

      I can't see how that's funny

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja 10 місяців тому

      @@liettdyved8633 Then gid gud eyesight, scrub

    • @muzummilkhan7713
      @muzummilkhan7713 10 місяців тому

      ​@@liettdyved8633i do

    • @goldopals557
      @goldopals557 10 місяців тому +1

      @@liettdyved8633 it’s because you’re soft

    • @drakonemperor144
      @drakonemperor144 10 місяців тому +5

      ​@@liettdyved8633you can't even see in the first place

  • @viljamtheninja
    @viljamtheninja 10 місяців тому +13

    While I do absolutely love it when karma bites Pekora in the ass, I usually find it even funnier when her nefarious plans succeed. It's like South Park episodes where Cartman wins just by being absolutely horrible and never learns anything.

    • @soasertsus
      @soasertsus 10 місяців тому +6

      That's the duality of Pekora. It's fun to see her succeed and be unapologetically smug and toxic about it while laughing like a gremlin, and then that smug attitude makes it equally fun when she fails in dramatic ways because she had it coming for being such a sore winner all the other times.

    • @Nyartatouille
      @Nyartatouille 6 місяців тому

      Like that time when she 1 vs the World in Rust 😂

  • @lianaverwood9810
    @lianaverwood9810 10 місяців тому +13

    Much of the Subsets of the Tropes you cover are generally created from Synergistic Combinations of Tropes: In this case, the Hobgoblin is the Gremlin Trope usually comboed with the Tomboy or Menhua Trope; and the War Criminal is Gremlin comboed with Schizo or Hag; other combinations can create similar Subsets, though not all are suitable for the VTubing Scene; still, with extremely skillful Performance, potentially any Trope Combo could be given justice...
    For Instance, Hololive's Akai Haato originally fell under the Seiso Idol Trope, before an event Isolated her somewhere she couldn't effectively do her Job from. She took this as an opportunity to Reimagine her Character, and implemented the Schizo Trope to unleash a Second Persona of the Gremlin-Schizo War Criminal Trope named HAACHAMA - she used the Dual Persona Gimmick to combine many more Tropes than the average VTuber could handle, and pulled it all off Flawlessly, leading to both Personas to each have their own Dedicated Fanbases and eventually requiring her to Merge the Two for Balance!
    This is evidence that with enough Skill, a VTuber could pull off almost any Set of Tropes in a way Fans can appreciate...

  • @SergioLeonardoCornejo
    @SergioLeonardoCornejo 10 місяців тому +17

    The blue gremlin who got eaten by a shark is one of the few people who could make jokes at the expenses of her target audience (and by extension herself) without gaining animosity. Her weeaboo song is literally mocking us all.

  • @Razorcarl
    @Razorcarl 10 місяців тому +7

    PEKORA LETS GOOOOOOOOO

  • @yohannbiimu
    @yohannbiimu 10 місяців тому +4

    0:26 I love this scene from Monty Python And The Holy Grail.

  • @TheAHuman
    @TheAHuman 10 місяців тому +6

    It is pretty clear that the gremlin modifier is the most popular vtuber trait given its prevalence in the top vtubers.

  • @chrisgonzalez2744
    @chrisgonzalez2744 10 місяців тому +4

    Love the monogatari music in the background it oddly fits the theme of the video

  • @Ookami9035
    @Ookami9035 10 місяців тому +5

    gremlin is the best vtuber tropes
    imagine pekora, kobo, tenma, chibidoki, filian, and shondo in one stream

    • @Aereto
      @Aereto 10 місяців тому +2

      Pekora is in the Looney Tunes tier of comedy, where schemes tend to blow up in their faces while they gloat when they win and apologize when they lose.
      She didn't create that trope, but very well is a great example of it.

  • @joemommaoramma7090
    @joemommaoramma7090 10 місяців тому +1

    bruh i hate it when people intentionally try and be gremlins. YOU ARE NOT THERE TO BE "Teehee, I'm so silly and goofy" YOU ARE HERE TO BE ARRESTED FOR AGGREVATED SHABOINGERY. BE THE PROBLEM. If you can't fully commit to it, then just don't.
    Also if you're an aspiring gremlin then come up with original jokes. your mom jokes arent funny, hell, arson jokes are so incredibly cringe because they are so oversused. Please play it smart people.

  • @dragonvich2007
    @dragonvich2007 10 місяців тому +5

    Tomboy and hag…yeah that’s actually a good point. We don’t have that combination

    • @conspiracyspider
      @conspiracyspider 10 місяців тому +2

      I mean technically we do but the models that are used are on the teenage side rather than the traditional hag.

  • @SheepShade
    @SheepShade 3 місяці тому +1

    Biboo is the gremlinest Gremlin to ever gremlin

  • @k-CapoXXIV
    @k-CapoXXIV 10 місяців тому +2

    There is a concerning lack of Laplus in this video in my honest opinion. She couldn't be a more perfect choice for the gremlin who's both a massive troll and gets trolled in response by the fans, but also has proven to be really funny, endearing and easy to empathize with. The gap moe truly is strong with this one.

  • @nathanmccarthy7910
    @nathanmccarthy7910 10 місяців тому +4

    You know those play-by-play breakdowns/analyses of books/movies? I would love to watch one treating Pejora’s entire history/lore as one story

  • @assaulthetz
    @assaulthetz 10 місяців тому +5

    Pekora literally kicked that trope by herself, with sacrifices of the MC villagers.

  • @ArcaneMaiden
    @ArcaneMaiden 10 місяців тому +3

    About time DN talked about his Primarch, Usadius Pekoman :p
    Jokes aside, this is well-thought out 😮

  • @zomfgroflmao1337
    @zomfgroflmao1337 10 місяців тому +3

    Here is my main problem with Gremlins, on the example of Selen, because she is one of my favorites, it really hurts the enjoyment when they play or do something serious, but they are not able to take something serious. Like when playing a story game that has heavy themes, they might just laugh over it, which some people might find nice because it makes the topic lighter to digest, but I think, because being a gremlin is that easy, there are too few that actually take stuff seriously.
    So, while I enjoy some goofy game with a gremlin streamer, when it comes to serious stuff I find it destructive to the enjoyment when a gremlin can't take stuff seriously.

  • @hamaskuy6416
    @hamaskuy6416 10 місяців тому +3

    Everyone wake up, DN just uploaded new video

  • @NinaMarieNPianoKeys
    @NinaMarieNPianoKeys 10 місяців тому +1

    Pekora. Enough Said.

  • @do811
    @do811 10 місяців тому +1

    4:22 UUUUOOOOOGGGHHH gura is so hydrodynamic 😭😭😭

  • @stevemanart
    @stevemanart 10 місяців тому +1

    >Usada Pekora
    >Pipkin Pippa
    >Punkalopi
    >Laran Bonnie
    All bnuuys are warcrimes

    • @k-CapoXXIV
      @k-CapoXXIV 10 місяців тому +1

      Let's be real for a sec, Bugs Bunny IS the quintessential war criminal wabbit for 80+ years and counting.

    • @stevemanart
      @stevemanart 10 місяців тому

      @_zapatoz_ The Joke > [here]
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      Your head >[Here]

    • @stevemanart
      @stevemanart 10 місяців тому

      @_zapatoz_ thank you for proving me right

  • @NyanaBanyana
    @NyanaBanyana 10 місяців тому +1

    Gremlin Vtuber represent 🙌
    Really indept video , cool.

  • @amstrad00
    @amstrad00 10 місяців тому +1

    This video has me thinking about Zentreya. I feel like she could easily fit into the war criminal category as discussed in this video.. but she overall doesn't feel like a gremlin as she doesn't have the cute thing going on.

  • @Digsidian
    @Digsidian 10 місяців тому +1

    I remember the halcyon days of Overwatch's community, when Gremlin Dva memes were plentiful.

  • @cw666thebeast
    @cw666thebeast 10 місяців тому +1

    I see a deadly amount of Shondo in this video.

  • @xXxS3ph1r0thxx420xXX
    @xXxS3ph1r0thxx420xXX 10 місяців тому +1

    "You're the Vtuber documentary expert??? Well i didn't vote for you!"

  • @grialinfo4426
    @grialinfo4426 10 місяців тому +1

    I only want to say one thing: I really love this terrible and evil war criminal.

  • @PaulBen19
    @PaulBen19 10 місяців тому +1

    Talk about the menhera trope next

  • @ZynkOxhyde
    @ZynkOxhyde 10 місяців тому +1

    Wonder where Uto now 😢

  • @ig33ku
    @ig33ku 8 місяців тому

    Hobgoblin example Creeprys x Bae

  • @autismandgaming4532
    @autismandgaming4532 10 місяців тому +2

    Oh sweet Arson

  • @VictorOng99
    @VictorOng99 10 місяців тому +1

    Man, imagine time travel back to ww2 and tell everyone War Criminal is a goofy quirky tropes.

    • @oak..
      @oak.. 8 місяців тому +1

      the law isn't gon take that too well..

  • @Doom_Guy__
    @Doom_Guy__ 10 місяців тому +1

    We need a tomboy vtuber tropes video next.

  • @RyuClaudius
    @RyuClaudius 9 місяців тому

    Pekora's last stand during the Rust S2's season finale forever will be etched as Pekora's best war criminal act.

  • @kitsunesden8085
    @kitsunesden8085 10 місяців тому

    I want to follow Pekora and Pippa's path

  • @deftteacher87
    @deftteacher87 5 місяців тому

    What da dog doin?

  • @bansaiboy
    @bansaiboy 10 місяців тому

    So.. we talking about gremlin and chibi not getting mentioned ONCE? brother do you even do your homework?!

  • @GamingDreamer
    @GamingDreamer 10 місяців тому

    What tropes Selen Tatsuke is?

  • @Jyukenmaster95
    @Jyukenmaster95 10 місяців тому

    5:06 Tomboy Hag? I think it would've been Callie, if she were older & ppl didn't already call her Daddy

  • @nonsense0000
    @nonsense0000 10 місяців тому

    Why is this guy still making video lol😂bro lied about quiting

  • @undercovertakodachi4301
    @undercovertakodachi4301 10 місяців тому

    5:05 you are up to something with that tomboy Hag.....

  • @Riley26
    @Riley26 10 місяців тому

    Tenma my beloved lolibaba war criminal chihuahua

  • @simshengvue4642
    @simshengvue4642 10 місяців тому

    Horrible video. Not enough Pekora

  • @Bam_Bizzler
    @Bam_Bizzler 10 місяців тому

    Gremlins gotta be one of my favorite genders

  • @zetroll0372
    @zetroll0372 10 місяців тому

    0:52 why not both at the same time and tap that clussy.

  • @AndrewS-vu4ji
    @AndrewS-vu4ji 10 місяців тому

    HOB GOBBLIN DEEZ NU-

  • @hunlepto2239
    @hunlepto2239 10 місяців тому

    Oh boy, can't wait for you to tackle the menhera trope.

  • @AtelierGod
    @AtelierGod 10 місяців тому

    5:17 cause they fear it.

  • @kushantaiidan
    @kushantaiidan 10 місяців тому

    Did you say Loli type chuubas can't do GFE? Or shouldn't?

    • @DepressedNousagi
      @DepressedNousagi  10 місяців тому +1

      Not recommended, but if you can make yourself look like such and dont give a shit what twitter thinks or can take the screaming or even revel in it, then you can

    • @sambuddy4465
      @sambuddy4465 10 місяців тому

      @@DepressedNousagibroooooooo… may pipino na sa holostars…
      LMAO

  • @SunnyKimDev
    @SunnyKimDev 10 місяців тому

    6:47

  • @cakeCrumbzz
    @cakeCrumbzz 10 місяців тому

    👍🏾

  • @Korgmeister
    @Korgmeister 10 місяців тому

    "Why isn't there a Tomboy hag in HoloEN?"
    Excuse me, what the fuck is Nerissa meant to be, then?

  • @chrismath149
    @chrismath149 10 місяців тому +6

    You don't actually think peasants had no access to art, do you? I mean, passing stories on by mouth was the first way by which we were entertained. Richer peasants (yes, they existed) also owned very decorative pieces of furniture. Folk story tellers memorized entire ballads while in antiquity, literacy was often defined by being able to recite works of arts while reading was only a way to store it (reading by yourself was a later invention). Maybe don't take historic information presented by entertainment companies at face value.
    Also, a king had no way to figure out what peasants said about him. The centralized structure required to execute defamation laws would only be reached later on (absolutism). Medieval administration was very localized and concentrated on other things (getting taxes).

    • @ThePrastomo
      @ThePrastomo 10 місяців тому

      Huh?😺

    • @chrismath149
      @chrismath149 10 місяців тому +6

      @@ThePrastomo Content creator is wrong about the prevalence of entertainment in older times. How did you pass elementary?

    • @hunlepto2239
      @hunlepto2239 10 місяців тому +4

      @@ThePrastomo Man, if you have nothing useful to add to a discussion, don't even talk

    • @nkyfong
      @nkyfong 10 місяців тому

      Ok, chill. This is a video on Vtuber gremlins, not a historical essay.

    • @ThePrastomo
      @ThePrastomo 10 місяців тому

      I imply the message I tell here is, why this commentator above brings the minor topic of the videos in vtuber videos with vvtuber audiences.
      I'll consider my comment has same nuance as "r/whoosh". You know what, my bad, for giving this comment a stage.

  • @SofaLights
    @SofaLights 10 місяців тому +3

    How do I differentiate a gremiln vtuber from a child?

    • @hang_kentang6709
      @hang_kentang6709 10 місяців тому

      easy, one of them is going to invite some guys in a tactical gear to your house.

    • @SofaLights
      @SofaLights 10 місяців тому

      @@hang_kentang6709 Is it the child?

    • @nkyfong
      @nkyfong 10 місяців тому

      Depends.

  • @monterasta47
    @monterasta47 10 місяців тому

    Much prompt, no real substance 🫠