Yes I agree, I tried to fit in into her shoes because like she said.....I have trans friends and trust me she must have seen probably many times her friends getting genuinely hurt and feels really sorry when they are addressed wrongly.
I actually agree with that, she was really lovely and polite. I can’t stand the radical left and trans groups but I thought she was very measured and fair
Mutations exist in every aspect of living beings The fact that it is a mental mutation doesn’t make it any less valid I feel sorry for you for not understanding that
@@amadeusofearth5373 I feel sorry for you for being brainwashed. The fact is there’s only two genders male and female. Period. It has always been that way since the beginning of time and will be until the end.
@@amadeusofearth5373 A religious belief in a soul that exists separately from the body it inhabits, and thus can somehow be in the "wrong body" is not a variation in brain structure (or "mental mutation," as you put it) but a cultural belief. Participating in a culture that promotes such views is no more valid than participating in a culture that promotes various other things we find unacceptable. The problem is not one of a lack of understanding, it is one of disagreement. Why do progressives/activists always think that the reason people don't agree with them is that they don't understand? The more I understand this ideology, the more disdainful of it I become.
It's especially a mental delusion WHICH BENEFITS HIM as a woman. He would have never got the title while he was considered as man. I guarantee if it didn't benefit him, he won't be delusional. Selective mental delusion disorder tsss......
She represented her peers better than most. She was sincere, but not righteous, or entitled. I can listen to someone like her, even if I never agree with them.
Great example of how these people should go about it. This was a good back and forth between 2 people that totally disagree, unlike most of these lunatics that just wanna shut the conversation down.
You mean being called the name your mother gave you when you were born and not a make believe fantasy one?! Isn't that the beginning of schizophrenia?!
and then her very next answer was "names really aren't that big a deal, it's not that deep". So which is it? Is a name "shattering" or is it "not that big a deal"?
Exactly. I wish Charlie had caught that. This is very typical of democrats. They don't even realize how hypocritical and self-contradictory they are. They've left reason behind.
....yep, whilst there is a level of civility and respect that everybody should automatically have, if these people want to take huge steps away from the 'norm' then they need to toughen the fuck up and take whatever comes there way.
This is the thing people can’t get their heads round…. And fine it doesn’t matter that they want to be called another name - but only if it works the other way round. Like if someone “misgenders” someone in sight or out of being used to the original gender- it shouldn’t be cause for a tantrum.
@@WoodysAR Why are you so bad at grammar? What you meant to type was: "Perforce" means "by necessity". You only use ' instead of " when you are quoting something within an already existing quotation. For example: Johnny asked, "Why did you just tell me to 'clean my filthy room' in such a rude tone"?
*“I don’t respect the unibomber.”* Anyone who’s read the dude’s manifesto would agree that he was actually spot on. I was an adult back then, whilst Charlie was a baby. *“I don’t respect the people who perform abortions.”* Charlie thinks that I, as a disabled women with a destroyed spine (as a result of a surgeon that was allowed into theUS because of ideology that Charlie supports) should be forced to birth a child if birth control failed. He thinks that the compassionate skilled doctor that would help me do that procedure in such an emergency, before the stage that the nervous system has even been formed enough to even detect pain, shouldn’t deserve respect. *AND YOU APPAUD THAT!!* Just, _WOW._ Charlie is a joke. He is someone paid to promote the GOP’s talking points and promote the false 2 party paradigm. He doesn’t even care if people that look like him no longer exist in 100-200 years, which is a reality precisely because of what he and his peers promote/enact as law!
@@bofasofa9399That depends on what country you come from. In British and Australian English, one typically uses single quotes. If you're writing in North America, double quote marks are typically used.
@@groovydespairgod5190 Oh... really? And why is that? You're bunged up that, being offended doesn't (by default) make you right? Or you're are coming unglued because you actually see the logic presented in this thread? What's the deal? Anyone can stop by by the comments, leave a childish remark, and run away. Anybody can do that. Why not back up your insult with a valid reason why you seem to think that we're all "cringe af"? I could easily say anything that would, without a doubt, get under your skin. But what's the point? You sit in the dark, and throw stones. If you're gonna remain invisible and take cheap shots at someone, at least have the common courtesy to let them know why. It's not like anyone can really get to you, much less know you.
I completely disagree with the student but am extremely impressed at the respect she showed Charlie and the way she handled herself throughout her argument. I wish more people in her generation were like her. She doesn’t agree with Charlie but she was respectful and listened to his points and vice versa.
This is the whole problem- I used to be that way about everything and everyone, I was a people pleaser but then I had kids and realised that lying to someone in order to save other their feelings is WRONG when it’s a BIG lie that facilitates a delusion. I wouldn’t tell my kid they were right about something or that because they want something they are right to want it so that they could go outside into the world and be wrong… it would cause them problems. I now don’t believe in pleasing people when it really REALLY matters that I don’t.
You are the first one I’ve seen point this out. It’s been nagging at me but I couldn’t put my finger on it. Courtesy is the proper term, not respect. Thank you.
There’s no such thing as deadnaming someone. It does not exist. You cannot make up a name to force people to call you without being 18+ and legally changing your name through the court system.
It's like "why does skin color matter so much" question after a white character was replaced by a black one in a movie... If it does not matter, why did you race swap the character?
This is a real good hearted young lady . The problem is that she is being taken advantage of by very evil people "the abc lobby" .Also her parents should explain to her that "being more acceptable " does not mean to look at inmoral, criminal and otherwise unnatural behavior to be ok .
@@wxxw-pc7qq Lying. Cheating. Insurrection. Stealing. Abusing young women. Perverting their Christian faith. Those are all Republican “virtues”, which they refuse to condemn in their own politicians.
Actually she is demonstrating just the opposite. These young people are not accepting of anything other than their own opinions based on a minority view. They turn to social media and internet sources from the last few years instead of doing true historical facts. Man was born with the ability to reason but that does not mean being reasonable. Children are taught what is right for them because harm might come if they are not both physical and mental. To turn a blind eye to the fact that some alternative thoughts are truly mental illnesses is wrong.
She has a great attitude - but unfortunately has no foundation to stand on. She keeps saying "It's not that deep" - exactly. It's not deep - it's shallow and false. I hope she can decide to stand on the truth no matter how her friends try to manipulate her.
I've been in the deliverance ministry and seen many sexually messed up people correctly get delivered from perversion! And God heals them of the genitalia mutilation. LOOK FOR THEM!
@@thisthat283 well, driving is an earned right, you've got a license that gives you the right to drive. It's not a human right though...but I think we mean the same thing.
@@oopster74 typical leftard!! Read what i wrote... everyone has the right to speak! How is that disrespecting someone??? The EVIL LEFT WING mentality is RUINING THIS WORLD!! Proof is in the pudding!!!
Well freedom of speech is the right to offending someone, if you never risk being offensive or to offend you cannot complete a journey of truth. I think it's a needed right. Just like, one shouldn't be free of consequences. If someone threatens you with physical violence you call the cops and you get it sorted. But getting in trouble for not agreeing to ones fleeting imaginations of reality distortion based on feelings is absurd.
@@extremeresponsibility her argument works against herself too lol. If it wasn't "that deep" then it wouldn't be an issue to deadname. If it's not that deep, then it's not an issue lol.
In a "decent" society - he said. Its true in every society though. Except maybe those grandmas who have this auto admiration for priests not even knowing them.
Honestly, she has been one of the most respectful people to speak with Charlie during these seminars. Props to her for being genuine and civil. We need more people like her for debates like this.
Yes, and I’m glad so many people are echoing this sentiment. We need to be respectful and honest and welcome the sane kids who have somehow managed to be honest and courageous enough to engage in a respectful conversation like this one.
Look I have nothing wrong with you being trans gay whatever you want to identify as just don’t push it onto me and we’ll be cool I wouldn’t treat you any different we need people with my mindset if we did people could agree to disagree in a healthy way but then yet again my logic on common respect and human decency doesn’t exist nor apply to everyone we just all need to respect each other and not shit on each other for opinions no matter how dumb we might think they are you earn respect by giving respect you don’t deserve it you earn it peace
I have a trans in my close family. I told this person that I will call this person whatever this person wants to be called. But, I also explained that I knew this person as one name for 16 years and it would take me some time to become accustomed to this person's new name. I also explained that I will not affirm this person's decision - if this person needs affirmations, this person will need to get those affirmations elsewhere. I also asked this person several questions in the hopes of understanding the transition better. This person made terrible comments to me about the questions - that it was not my right to question the transition or reasons behind it. After that, I won't even call this person by name nor use any sort of pronoun other than "this person" or "that person" but I will not call this person "they/them".
If you love this person then let it be known that if he or she ever needs you to come find you but on the grounds of it has to be based on how you've always known one another and not this new persona. That way you are not closing the door but are stating that you're not willing to participate in this mental delusion.
She appears just confused because she has been exposed to these people who do not know who they are and she's trying to be empathetic . She wants to be fair, but at the same time, you could tell she just doesn't know what to make of all this
They can think and feel however they want to, but it will never change the FACT of who they really are, and that's something that will NEVER EVER change.
She also lied to try and make her point stronger. She doesn't have 'lots' of trans friends. And even if she did, if you don't have the full 'bit swap' you're not trans, you're just and old fashioned tranny.
Is this what a college education does for young people save your money parents your being ripped off it’s sad to hear this from students in college who are being indoctrinated by other’s ideologies they seem unable to accept the truth.
The world could learn from this young lady. She lost the debate and badly but she didn't act up and start being rude. She understood him and took the learning process well. This guy as well. He didn't act like a jerk. He understood where she was coming from and didn't embarrass her in the process. Respect to both.
and u have just proved the point on how respect is earned! respect can never be demanded from one party simply becos they think they are entitled to it...i like how he differentiated the right to speak from the nonexistence of a right to be respected! you have my respect too...
That is the least worrying problem. But a good feature! She is still delusional as the rest. She is not thinking for herself, she is following a trend and need to wake up.
They go and deform their bodies and go through physical pain and commit to requiring medical help for the rest of their life to maintain their deformities, but someone calling them the wrong name is shattering to them?!?!
What is wrong with calling someone the name they changed too? I havent heard anyone upset about cis people changing names, you all respect it because they arent trans. Fucking hypocrisy at its finest. This doesnt even have anything to do with being trans. Anyone with common decency will respect anothers name change. To do it just because they are trans is just plain bigoted
Just imagine their thoughts when they realize they were misguided by their “friends” who encouraged these actions instead of encouraging them to seek psychological help for their mental delusions.
"Deadnaming would shatter my thousands of trans friends" immediately followed by "well why do names matter so much?" The principles are strong with this one...
@@jonmarx7882 Psych studies in the 90s capped a given individual's ability to maintain friendships of any meaningful sense at about 150. Acquaintances are around 500. At 1000, it's people you can perhaps remember their name, but probably nothing else.
These is destroying the moral of the young people in the west. We are allowing the suicide rate to go through the roof top. Its treason. There is no disproportionate reaction to that. This is what religion and values are for. To protect children from groomers trying them to have face tattoos, to have meth and oxis, and also to have gender reafirming surgery.
Walked up to the mic with 0% logic potential and 100% emotional expression is a lose - lose. These type of people just do not get it that emotions cannot beat logical fact.
Did you know that the brain of a male and the brain of a female are different and that some people are born with a brain that doesn't match their body ? They can study a brain, not knowing where it came from, and tell you if it came from a male or a female and be right most of the time. If you are born with a male body but have a female brain, that's not insanity. That's not a mental disorder. That's just a brain doing it's job. You want them to change their brain to match their body, why can't they change their body to match their brain, they're both biological ? Even Jordan Peterson says that roughly 10% of males are feminine and 10% of females are masculine but , he doesn't explain WHY ? I believe there is a reason for everything. We all know a female that is masculine or a male that is feminine. It's very common. It's not an anomaly. Like with most things, there are different levels, different spectrums such as what we see with autism.that could explain why therapy doesn't always work. How do you change a male brain, that's physically a male brain, into a female brain, it can't be done. We are just learning these things. They didn't have MRI's in the Bible. Try to keep an open mind.
Not really. Respect is something you have that you show to other people. It is courtesy. You have it, or you don't. And, if you don't show respect, you have no right to expect others to show respect to you. It's not like a paycheck you work to get.
@@jayejaycurry5485 Respect is an earned right. What you said is basically the same thing. The quote "if you don't show respect, you have no right to expect others to show respect to you." is the same as "if you want to earn respect, you must show respect". Respect is earned.
@@chrisg6492 No, it's not the same thing. You cannot do anything to get respect from someone who has no respect to give. You can try to earn it but you'll never get it. Another way of looking at it. It is common courtesy to show respect when meeting a stranger, even though the stranger has not had the opportunity to earn that respect, as you claim. The same is true from the stranger's point of view.
@@jayejaycurry5485 You are still saying that it's being earned. "You can't get respect if..." is implying that it is something that can be earned. Earning something IS getting something. Some people have no respect to give, meaning you cannot earn respect from that person. I don't understand your point. You say that it can't be earned but then give a paragraph about earning respect from a stranger. It's something that must be earned, and you cannot earn it from some people. Also, a respectful demeanor is not the same as really respecting them on the inside.
@@chrisg6492 Your twisting my words around to make it seem like I'm agreeing with you. I'm not. And I said nothing about a stranger earning respect. You are probably right that you don't understand what I'm saying. Civilized people give respect automatically until the other person rejects it. Barbarians give no one respect until the other one shows something of value. "Respect n. Deferential esteem felt or shown towards a person." AED. What you're talking about is admiration, reverence.
I was born in the late 60's and "Respect is earned" was a basic rule that my parents drilled into my head which is why they also made it clear that "actions speak louder than words". These younger generations were never taught either of these concepts. They demand respect for doing nothing more than existing and the world does not work that way no matter how loud the shout.
The key word is entitled. Today’s young adults are way too entitled and it’s their parents fault for refusing to discipline their children at a young age. Too many participation trophies
@@puppetmaster3371 I don't. If the statement does not apply to you then great. If it does then embrace it and reflect. I work with a lot of well educated young people of all races and I see the entitlement like I have never seen before. You can't just expect people who have lived for a while to ignore their experience in order to make what we are seeing now ok as the new normal
@@puppetmaster3371 Because he can. You proved his point. You're demanding the respect that you haven't earned from him. It obviously bothered you because you relate to what he's saying. Your insecurity was exposed. If you're nothing like he said then why did it trigger you? You're in the same boat and in denial. Thanks for pointing that out. Stop being so sensitive.
We are in so much trouble as a society. Basic knowledge is out the window and we have people so bored with their pampered American life that they have to find ways to feel oppressed.
yup and the answer is simple.... Prusuit Scientific Answers for the future No mather what the cost is.... Culture, Human lifes, Feeling's and so on so on... is ALL Irrelevant.............. if bulding a spaceship to colonize another planet would Cost All the transe people in the Worlds Life..... its a Trade Worth taking for the human race........ Sounds Asshole... but its Mathemathicaly Facts............
She didn't freak out, scream, and storm off. I like that she approached the situation with a mindset to have a conversation, even if he didn't agree with her stance.
i totally agree with you. Sad thing though is that the behaviors you mentioned are not what we should EXPECT from an adult. As an adult, she should be able to calmly state her point and behave respectably when someone doesn't agree with her. It is sad that so many choose not to behave their age.
I absolutely AGREE!!! You will probably never hear me say this again... but she was SO MUCH MORE understanding and kind vs how harsh Charlie was. Usually don't see it flipped this way
@@Uouttooo yeah but for a organization and founder who pride themselves on “the truth” it kinda bothers me to see it just be an out right lie for the sake of views you know?
I think she may not have played games where she lost or there was a clear winner and loser. Everyone probably received a participation trophy while she was younger. Life isn't fair but she didn't learn this fact yet. 😕
The problem nowadays is the level of common standards. The left is trying to bring the standards down to nothing. I have a common decency to behave a certain way to you and your family and everyone else
@@ppheanix pretty mean (mean-spirited). She's trying. Nah that was a bs comment. Gonna pretend didn't hear that. Fortunately Ill-spirited criticism doesn't count (until you say something actually something I can take seriously)
@@tommychappell6359 FACT !!! This so called student and I use the term advisedly, has trouble making sense of the question she wants to ask as she fights to bring together the words that will form the question !
@@ppheanix yeah but she's pretty young. Can't rly blame her. For scrambling few words. I mean Maybe. she's got a good heart though which is I think just as important, seems like nice person, give some leg for trying. In few years she might have all questions/answers we just don't know. She flopped on her words. But I found it bit cute. Like fluffy parrot. I mean hey least some people even HAVE courage to stand up and make a flop-up. And she still managed to hold it together even when she potentially NEW she made a mistake. It was a courageous one.
@@tommychappell6359 Are you trying to kid me !? She is a college or university student, not a child and she is trying to articulate an adult topic, so please don't try to minimize her inabilities. If she is the vanguard of the trans gender debate, then they are on a hiding to nowhere AND the LBWGTOQIA+ community must be shaking their heads in disbelief. If one is gonna go up against someone like CK, one had better be prepared to go hard or get smashed.
And you know 90% are doing it to be “cool”. Today is stupid. We thought drugs were issues!? I ish you not. I rather face that, then “I wanna chop my **** off!!!!”
If they were all like her then more people would probably be open to accepting it. But when you sit there and try to yell and scream and cry about someone not calling you what you want when it’s biologically wrong, nobody is going to listen or respect you. Hopefully these people will take notes from this woman.
She rambled and said a bunch of nothing and more delusion. Yes, she was respectful but that doesn't change that her entire talking points were all over the place and didn't make one bit of sense
@@dannyblaq9433 I agree, sadly that seems to be the norm with people who have a leftist view point. But I personally think that those who are respectful like herself have a higher chance of seeing the light and coming to understand the truth behind ideals of the right
@@bethanybrakebill3599 These types of leftists and liberals ONLY exists in the first world as they are the product of entitlement and privilege. No where in the world where people deal with real problems such as hunger, poverty, war, etc do they care about what the left cares in the West. Their entire existence is pretty much only possible because they were afforded such an easy life where they had to fight for nothin. The No Bullying campaigns, etc from where I come from "bullying" built character, it made you have to deal and navigate difficult situations. You don't see this in the East like Asia, India, Africa, Russia, Middle East that's where life is real. The same thing with the "respect" you earn it every day, you can't demand respect or make someone respect you when they don't. That's a delusion as well. People like her really turn my stomach to believe that this is how the world really works.
As Charlie himself said in his debate with the communist a while back.... "Maybe there's a good reason for censoring certain speech" He literally said that. LOL
Not just with people they do not like. Even if you simply disagree with them they want to cancel, sanction etc you but then they Demand respect. As Charlie said respect is earnt and can never be demanded. How can I respect someone who does not know what gender they are? Am in my 70's now and never thought I would live to see the day when mental patients ran the asylum but that is what we have today and most of the so-called normal population are trying to convince us this is normal and desirable. WTF?
This young woman is ridiculous God bless Charlie Kirk he has a lot of patience Patience I would never have keep up the good work Charlie God bless you and yours
I like this kid, she is sincerely trying to be respectful to everyone. It is clear she is searching for the answers and struggling with her questions. I salute her actually because she is open to consider his argument. If only more youngsters followed her lead, and I hope she gains the understanding she is striving for.
Someone who has a "feeling" isnt always correct. To be a woman from a man it takes more than outer makeup to be a woman and dangerous thing about transition can make actual women vulnerable.
@@peace9265 A few years ago when the transgender thing first became so visible, my daughters were in middle school. I watched in horror as it almost became a "trend" for the kids to start changing their genders and names, etc. One of my daughters close friends was begging to transition and I'm so glad her mother got her some psychological help because it ended up (to no one's surprise) being a phase. She wont even talk about or address that time in her life now. These poor kids that are finding their way in life, struggling with their identity and being accepted, peer pressure. I always tell my kids if this would have happened when I was young I probably would have made a terrible mistake. I was so confused as an adolescent and went through every phase and stage imaginable. Children don't have the brain development to make such choices. It's so sad.
@@karenmilford7809 Parents need to be able have authority over children. When that right is forced from them then it becomes harder to discipline them as well as explaining them in the nicest way. Children gets more power and they learns nothing except that they want it and they gets it. There are Boys looking like girls but they ain't and vice versa
Like ... Can people stop saying like for no reason at all ... One can be telling me the most serious of topics . But as soon as they say like ... It's over , I'm staring off into the distance . I speak a few languages , and I understand a few more . Sorta like literally bro , dude .
That's a really good point. I think trans people know they are living in deep delusion and sin, and they have to avoid that thought at all costs, so they strike out in violence and anger when questioned. It's really very pitiable. I feel for them. Many of them have been abused as children.
@@wandertree it hit me yesterday . Gays and Lesbians can't reproduce ... But these same gays and Lesbians vote for abortion ... I thought they want to adopt ...
Yeah well when you try to make yourself more important than you are by people pleasing, that snowballs into something else. Subservience even with facts laid out.
She definitely was more respectful and calmer than most leftist many she is the very rare liberal that is actually liberal. I give her credit for being calm and respectful. But her argument has no logic. She said names aren't a big deal and at the same time said her Trans friends would be devastated if you called them by their given name. Plus if be called any name devastates you he are going to have problems making it in this world.
She actually sounds not like these angry ideologues but actually like someone who’s a sweetie and cares, it’s just sad cause those type of people can actually be manipulated by the overzealous political ideologues some times
Yeah I'm actually giving some kudos to the girl. She does seem slightly naive, but she's at least honest. She's not overly emotional about it. She's not irrational by any means. And she genuinely seems like a decent person. This is what a conversation of conflicting views should look like
@@redneckrambo9626 I agree, she seems like she has a very kind heart. I'm also guessing because her kind nature, she's been confused and taken advantage of by the "trans community."
"Respect" means different things to different people. Some people believe that not being afraid them is disrespect. Many people, including "trans" act out violently toward anyone they believe has "disrespected" them.
She honestly just seems like the sort of girl who wants everyone to be happy. She disagreed with him but she wasnt even coming at him try attack him in a sense. Just trying to get an understanding of it all and where he was coming from. Shes a very good person at the core you can just tell hey
People who support the same position as she does are generally more respectful than the ones who firmly condemn what they hate as "delusional" or "insane." Many comments in this thread notice how respectful she was- as if they actually weren't expecting that in the first place. I think that explains enough how the other side has played this out- making it all about respect for trans when it isn't. It's about respecting the fact that THERE IS ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW that exists- that whether you agree that there are only two biological sexes is NOT the issue. If we can agree that the term "God" can be used whether God really exists or not is the same as agreeing on the terms for trans whether we agree with their reality or not. The only perspective that doesn't deserve respect is one that creates public harm and poses a DIRECT, PHYSICAL threat (clear and present danger) to the well-being of society (e.g. cult ideology that justifies crime).
@@turquoisemoon3654 truth is not hate. Mutilating children is hate. Allowing a person to fall into a community that has incredibly higher rates of suicide, depression, and psychiatric episodes AFTER transition is Hate- If he doesn't call it what it is then we all live in delusion. He is direct and unapologetic as he should be. I did not see him attack anyone. There is a reason why people are pointing out her sincerity. She listened to him, and he listened to her- that was an honest debate/conversation- people yelling and refusing to listen to what he is talking about IS the MAJORITY. I have seen this stuff for 5 decades. I used to be on the side of liberal thought- however, in the liberal world-it was their constant insane, incoherent, and flat-out lies that made me realize I was living in an echo chamber and I wasn't allowing truth to penetrate.
@@TheLionTheLambRom1221 We blame transitioning as the cause of depression- but aren't these debates contributing? Society's persecution complex runs deep. We argue that biological sex must be the basis of one's identity- therefore justifying mutilation as well since those who want to change their biological sex are thinking along the same lines- I feel, think, and have desires no different from a woman, I should have a vag*na kind of thinking. Mainstream society establishes the NORM, causes confusion among those who don't fit in the norm- even tolerates harassment of those who don't fit in- then condemns those who try to do exactly that. Persecution simply creates its own structures of oppression that generate even more confusion and chaos. Perhaps if we didn't have the condemnation to begin with, gays would have chosen to be as they are instead of trying to adapt to the NORM of your biological sex as the absolute determinant of identity. We can speak of truths and blame others as delusional- but aren't the ones pointing fingers and speaking about mutilation and truths only trying to escape the fact that THEY'RE part of the problem to begin with? Without condemnation of others whose decisions don't impact us, we'd be saving more lives. It's the truth-tellers who ARROGANTLY PRETEND they understand EVERYTHING that's causing the most misunderstandings to begin with. Keep on judging others as delusional. That helps. As if that solves anyone's problems.
@@turquoisemoon3654 it is delusional. It is truth. If you find truth hateful then you are messed up. Nobody should hate anyone, however we cannot let mental illness be the standard. Obviously suicide stats and depression stats fall flat on someone like you. As far as treatment of homosexuality, again nobody should be mistreated. But every society before it fall allowed such practices, Persian, Greek, roman empires. We need to protect society. That is not subjective thought. We all have crosses on life. They need to hear their cross like everyone else. It is mental illness.. Again you preach love but in practice it is hate.
She is a kind soul, young and naive, and shows she is educated. I hope she learns earlier rather than later that accepting all things that are happening is not the safest way.
I actually see her point though. I don’t believe men can be women, and I also don’t think deadnaming is “shattering” and that’s snowflake BS, but a name change is a totally different thing. If I changed my name tomorrow it wouldn’t be unrealistic to expect to be called by my new name with the exception of people who already knew me as something else and forget because of habit. A little disappointed with him on this video… not offended just, think he’s not making sense.
Kudos for this young woman who doesn't run around the world with her agenda and push everyone into a corner with her theories. It's hard to stand up to Charlie Kirk and brave enough to face him. It is even braver to enter into a discussion and be open to the arguments of the other person, which Charlie is not always able to do.
When she said she was losing her thoughts, I immediately imagined comparing it to a child is certain that Santa exists, but wondering why then he has the same hand writing has mom or dad
She was very calm and respectful, and it was nice to see her maybe starting to question the narrative she has been told. But the refusal of people to actually answer factual questions that might cause their argument to fall apart is so damn irritating. Props to Charlie for keeping his annooyance with that part in check.
I hate how in our attempts to be so open minded as a society we lose the truth. This girl seems to be a kind person, but she is mistaken in thinking that lies are harmless.
It's called the Paradox of Tolerance: the one thing we can't afford to tolerate is the intolerant. Her compassion is the very weak point gender ideology systematically targeted to gain authoritarian control, which was it's teleological aim from the start. This is just the current stage in the perpetual battle between authoritarians who will wear ANY ideological mask to gain power over others, and those who seek to safeguard the error correcting mechanisms of free society, discovered in the enlightenment. Like the endless, spinning, magnetic attraction and repulsion of Yin and Yang, Eros and Logos, Chaos and Order.
She reminds me of how we were in the 70s. Discussing things calmly and without rancor helps. I once wrote to Sen. Rudy Boschwitz (R-MN) asking him to vote for something. He sent me a return letter. In three pages he explained logically why he disagreed with me. I was convinced.
Refreshing to see a student actually be respectful and not scream.
Yes I agree, I tried to fit in into her shoes because like she said.....I have trans friends and trust me she must have seen probably many times her friends getting genuinely hurt and feels really sorry when they are addressed wrongly.
@@florenceofoma5646 if she cared about them she would be urging them to get mental help not supporting their psychosis.
@@florenceofoma5646 addressed and dressed wrongly,
I actually agree with that, she was really lovely and polite. I can’t stand the radical left and trans groups but I thought she was very measured and fair
@fedupamerican296 but not so easy when that's now the new norm.
But I do agree with you and as more people stand up to it things might get better.
"I'm not going to accept someone's mental delusion as reality." I totally agree.
Mutations exist in every aspect of living beings
The fact that it is a mental mutation doesn’t make it any less valid
I feel sorry for you for not understanding that
@@amadeusofearth5373 I feel sorry for you for being brainwashed. The fact is there’s only two genders male and female. Period. It has always been that way since the beginning of time and will be until the end.
Is it because their gender challenged?
@@amadeusofearth5373 A religious belief in a soul that exists separately from the body it inhabits, and thus can somehow be in the "wrong body" is not a variation in brain structure (or "mental mutation," as you put it) but a cultural belief. Participating in a culture that promotes such views is no more valid than participating in a culture that promotes various other things we find unacceptable.
The problem is not one of a lack of understanding, it is one of disagreement. Why do progressives/activists always think that the reason people don't agree with them is that they don't understand? The more I understand this ideology, the more disdainful of it I become.
It's especially a mental delusion WHICH BENEFITS HIM as a woman.
He would have never got the title while he was considered as man.
I guarantee if it didn't benefit him, he won't be delusional.
Selective mental delusion disorder tsss......
She represented her peers better than most.
She was sincere, but not righteous, or entitled.
I can listen to someone like her, even if I never agree with them.
This is very true.
Great example of how these people should go about it. This was a good back and forth between 2 people that totally disagree, unlike most of these lunatics that just wanna shut the conversation down.
Agreed. Both sides presented reasonable arguments without name calling.
name calling is important. it makes you tough,,, if you never get name called then we end up exactly where we are@@mtbkev8935
Same, she didn’t yell, scream or did anything dumb.
QUICK!!! SOMEONE SAVE THIS GIRL!!! SHE'S NOT TOO FAR GONE YET!!!
Absolutely
😁😁😁😁
Imagine being so fragile that being called the wrong name is “shattering”
You mean being called the name your mother gave you when you were born and not a make believe fantasy one?! Isn't that the beginning of schizophrenia?!
That the trans community
Right ? Good luck if we ever have to fight a enemy. The enemy can just call them by the wrong gender 😆
@@bobduce5705 brilliantly said hahahah respect.
and then her very next answer was "names really aren't that big a deal, it's not that deep". So which is it? Is a name "shattering" or is it "not that big a deal"?
She states “why do names matter so much?” After saying, “my trans friends would be shattered if you called them by their old names.”
Exactly. I wish Charlie had caught that. This is very typical of democrats. They don't even realize how hypocritical and self-contradictory they are. They've left reason behind.
....yep, whilst there is a level of civility and respect that everybody should automatically have, if these people want to take huge steps away from the 'norm' then they need to toughen the fuck up and take whatever comes there way.
Shatter away...we will miss you....
This is the thing people can’t get their heads round…. And fine it doesn’t matter that they want to be called another name - but only if it works the other way round.
Like if someone “misgenders” someone in sight or out of being used to the original gender- it shouldn’t be cause for a tantrum.
That is the US education at its finest haha
"I'm not gonna accept mental delusions with force" was a golden statement, salute!!
_'Perforce'_ (means 'by necessity'...)
@@WoodysAR Why are you so bad at grammar?
What you meant to type was: "Perforce" means "by necessity".
You only use ' instead of " when you are quoting something within an already existing quotation.
For example: Johnny asked, "Why did you just tell me to 'clean my filthy room' in such a rude tone"?
Exactly. I don't want to deal with anyone who is, delusional, violent and dangerous.
*“I don’t respect the unibomber.”*
Anyone who’s read the dude’s manifesto would agree that he was actually spot on. I was an adult back then, whilst Charlie was a baby.
*“I don’t respect the people who perform abortions.”*
Charlie thinks that I, as a disabled women with a destroyed spine (as a result of a surgeon that was allowed into theUS because of ideology that Charlie supports) should be forced to birth a child if birth control failed. He thinks that the compassionate skilled doctor that would help me do that procedure in such an emergency, before the stage that the nervous system has even been formed enough to even detect pain, shouldn’t deserve respect.
*AND YOU APPAUD THAT!!* Just, _WOW._
Charlie is a joke. He is someone paid to promote the GOP’s talking points and promote the false 2 party paradigm. He doesn’t even care if people that look like him no longer exist in 100-200 years, which is a reality precisely because of what he and his peers promote/enact as law!
@@bofasofa9399That depends on what country you come from. In British and Australian English, one typically uses single quotes. If you're writing in North America, double quote marks are typically used.
"Why do names matter?", she says. She destroyed her own argument!
She actually sounds like a nice caring girl who is trying to figure it all out. Hopefully she learns from this interaction.
I completely agree with you and Liverpool sucks
@@glennlongoria9952 Lol. I completely agree with you! Liverpool does suck
She's brainwashed. No helping her.
@@genocidecrusade6534 ok fed
Agreed.
*Being offended doesn't make you right!*
facts dont care about feeling!!
Exactly. Good post.
Correct
Y’all cringe af
@@groovydespairgod5190 Oh... really? And why is that? You're bunged up that, being offended doesn't (by default) make you right? Or you're are coming unglued because you actually see the logic presented in this thread?
What's the deal? Anyone can stop by by the comments, leave a childish remark, and run away. Anybody can do that. Why not back up your insult with a valid reason why you seem to think that we're all "cringe af"?
I could easily say anything that would, without a doubt, get under your skin. But what's the point? You sit in the dark, and throw stones. If you're gonna remain invisible and take cheap shots at someone, at least have the common courtesy to let them know why. It's not like anyone can really get to you, much less know you.
I completely disagree with the student but am extremely impressed at the respect she showed Charlie and the way she handled herself throughout her argument. I wish more people in her generation were like her. She doesn’t agree with Charlie but she was respectful and listened to his points and vice versa.
My grandmother used to say respect is hard to earn but easy to lose
The same with trust!
Agreed!!!
I'll give it to this woman, she cares but her willingness to give up basic facts just to make someone happy is the problem.
This is the whole problem- I used to be that way about everything and everyone, I was a people pleaser
but then I had kids and realised that lying to someone in order to save other their feelings is WRONG when it’s a BIG lie that facilitates a delusion.
I wouldn’t tell my kid they were right about something or that because they want something they are right to want it so that they could go outside into the world and be wrong… it would cause them problems.
I now don’t believe in pleasing people when it really REALLY matters that I don’t.
making someone happy is just her camouflage for making herself more important
The biggest part that is the problem that they do not realize it admitt is that person is NOT happy.
As much as I disagree with a lot of what she said, she was cordial, and far from radical.
this is why women shouldn't vote
And I think she’s confusing respect with courtesy.
You are the first one I’ve seen point
this out. It’s been nagging at me but I couldn’t put my finger on it.
Courtesy is the proper term, not respect. Thank you.
Bingo. Courtesy is every person's due. Respect must be earned. But it is still possible to be courteous, and to disagree.
EXACTLY!
I was gonna comment the same thing
Yes. This. Kirk was totally right about respect, but he should have suggested a substitute word. Courtesy is good.
There’s no such thing as deadnaming someone. It does not exist. You cannot make up a name to force people to call you without being 18+ and legally changing your name through the court system.
She literally said “why do names matter so much?” but yet it shatters them to be called their old name. 😂
The hypocrisy of the trans community is insane.
It's like "why does skin color matter so much" question after a white character was replaced by a black one in a movie... If it does not matter, why did you race swap the character?
Ikr - exactly, I noticed that too
@Nikolaus Moll and again they did so why are people so mad?
Bingo !
I transitioned from baby to adult, but I don't get upset when people recognize I was a baby once.
And your sex didn’t change otw lol
Good one
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But still, you are the same, your identity, gender and name has not changed..
This is a real good hearted young lady . The problem is that she is being taken advantage of by very evil people "the abc lobby" .Also her parents should explain to her that "being more acceptable " does not mean to look at inmoral, criminal and otherwise unnatural behavior to be ok .
The last part of your statement seems to be that her parents should teach her not to accept republicans.
@@Traitorman..Proverbs26.11 It has nothing to do with parties , and last I checked republicans do not advocate for immorality
@@wxxw-pc7qq
Lying. Cheating. Insurrection. Stealing. Abusing young women. Perverting their Christian faith.
Those are all Republican “virtues”, which they refuse to condemn in their own politicians.
She seems to have her heart in the right place but is totally lost on reality. It's a shame so many young people are stuck in a fantasy world.
I agree, Warren... the girl is salvageable... I hope someone gets to her fast...
She’s not salvageable she’s a western world modern woman. It doesn’t get any worse than that
It may help her think about the probable contradictions in her thinking. Feelings don't equate to facts.
Because the "cool" kids are accepting
I don't like her progressive views but I like her and I like the way she engages in comversation.
Her parents should be proud.
"as generations go on, we become more accepting of things" Exactly, that's the problem.
It really is. Not everything needs acceptance. Most things DON'T.
That was the PLAN right from the start!
Actually she is demonstrating just the opposite. These young people are not accepting of anything other than their own opinions based on a minority view. They turn to social media and internet sources from the last few years instead of doing true historical facts. Man was born with the ability to reason but that does not mean being reasonable. Children are taught what is right for them because harm might come if they are not both physical and mental. To turn a blind eye to the fact that some alternative thoughts are truly mental illnesses is wrong.
When you become accepting of insanity, you are only hurting people.
Yep eventually she will be on the panel to approve gas chambers "for the greater good".
She has a great attitude - but unfortunately has no foundation to stand on. She keeps saying "It's not that deep" - exactly. It's not deep - it's shallow and false. I hope she can decide to stand on the truth no matter how her friends try to manipulate her.
I've been in the deliverance ministry and seen many sexually messed up people correctly get delivered from perversion! And God heals them of the genitalia mutilation. LOOK FOR THEM!
Hi Marionette, don't be deceived by her "niceness", she belongs to the scariest people on the planet, in "White Liberals"
That's how they start and after a few months they get fully lost.
She keeps saying "it's not that deep" "name is just a label". And to that I say yeah exactly so go tell your trans friends to stop crying about it.
You're confused. She means it's "not that deep" that you can't simply call someone by the name they want to be called.
100% SPOT ON!!!! "You don't have the right to be respected, you have the right to speak.... RESPECT IS EARNED!!!!!!!!!"
Just as driving is a privilege not a right
@@thisthat283 well, driving is an earned right, you've got a license that gives you the right to drive. It's not a human right though...but I think we mean the same thing.
Just as you don't have the right to disrespect someone.
@@oopster74 typical leftard!! Read what i wrote... everyone has the right to speak! How is that disrespecting someone??? The EVIL LEFT WING mentality is RUINING THIS WORLD!! Proof is in the pudding!!!
Well freedom of speech is the right to offending someone, if you never risk being offensive or to offend you cannot complete a journey of truth. I think it's a needed right. Just like, one shouldn't be free of consequences. If someone threatens you with physical violence you call the cops and you get it sorted. But getting in trouble for not agreeing to ones fleeting imaginations of reality distortion based on feelings is absurd.
I truly like the way you speak to the young lady, you are polite and truthful.
The quote "you don't have the right to respect, you have to earn it in this society" is absolutely on point.
She said... it's not that deep.
Actually, it is.
@@extremeresponsibility her argument works against herself too lol. If it wasn't "that deep" then it wouldn't be an issue to deadname. If it's not that deep, then it's not an issue lol.
In a "decent" society - he said. Its true in every society though. Except maybe those grandmas who have this auto admiration for priests not even knowing them.
@@szymongrabarczyk3561 You went somewhere, way out there to the left with that comment!
@@Calvin375 You think?
"You don't have a right to being respected. You have a right to speak." Thank you!
❤
Honestly, she has been one of the most respectful people to speak with Charlie during these seminars. Props to her for being genuine and civil. We need more people like her for debates like this.
Yes, and I’m glad so many people are echoing this sentiment. We need to be respectful and honest and welcome the sane kids who have somehow managed to be honest and courageous enough to engage in a respectful conversation like this one.
Look I have nothing wrong with you being trans gay whatever you want to identify as just don’t push it onto me and we’ll be cool I wouldn’t treat you any different we need people with my mindset if we did people could agree to disagree in a healthy way but then yet again my logic on common respect and human decency doesn’t exist nor apply to everyone we just all need to respect each other and not shit on each other for opinions no matter how dumb we might think they are you earn respect by giving respect you don’t deserve it you earn it peace
@@trippieleaks2631well said
I agree 100%
Shes respectful despite that he hasnt EARNED her respect.
I have a trans in my close family. I told this person that I will call this person whatever this person wants to be called. But, I also explained that I knew this person as one name for 16 years and it would take me some time to become accustomed to this person's new name. I also explained that I will not affirm this person's decision - if this person needs affirmations, this person will need to get those affirmations elsewhere. I also asked this person several questions in the hopes of understanding the transition better. This person made terrible comments to me about the questions - that it was not my right to question the transition or reasons behind it. After that, I won't even call this person by name nor use any sort of pronoun other than "this person" or "that person" but I will not call this person "they/them".
If you love this person then let it be known that if he or she ever needs you to come find you but on the grounds of it has to be based on how you've always known one another and not this new persona. That way you are not closing the door but are stating that you're not willing to participate in this mental delusion.
"All we want is respect!" While being absolutely awful to anyone that even asks questions. Because it's not about respect, it's about control.
You're a lousy relative. You should have gotten it some help.
Here, here!!
You should tell them to self unalive themselves
I am so glad we have people like Charlie that are THIS articulate and can state facts on a dime 👏🏻
The death of a persons birth name probably shattered the parents who bestowed that name
Nah I would just stop acknowledging the person entirely cause apparently my kid died.
@Jeff Monk: And you should mind your business and stay out of other people’s lives. Worry about your loser self stuck in Mommy’s basement.
@@marccovitz5289 seems like someone hit a sore spot
Amen to that statement !!!
Its nice to see a calm person he can talk with. She’s actually having a conversation and not screaming
But everything she said is ridiculous at best.
She was a respectful M0R0N
She appears just confused because she has been exposed to these people who do not know who they are and she's trying to be empathetic . She wants to be fair, but at the same time, you could tell she just doesn't know what to make of all this
to respect others for what they are not, is trickery really, and not respectfull at all if you really think about it.@@leonblack2651
Huh?!?
"Calm" does not equate to knowledge and understanding.
Delusion is still delusion.
They can think and feel however they want to, but it will never change the FACT of who they really are, and that's something that will NEVER EVER change.
That young lady is right at the “turning point”. She actually appears to be someone who thinks. Nice to see some manners.
But she is very, very, very wrong.
She's just lost because she cares about her mentally ill friends. Nothing wrong with that.
@@Fr6
A man is a man, and always will be.
A woman is a woman and always will be
And nobody can change that.
She also lied to try and make her point stronger.
She doesn't have 'lots' of trans friends.
And even if she did, if you don't have the full 'bit swap' you're not trans, you're just and old fashioned tranny.
Turning Point back to the dark ages 😅 it's just a far right group
I hope she is OK, she is a prime target for narcissists.
Is this what a college education does for young people save your money parents your being ripped off it’s sad to hear this from students in college who are being indoctrinated by other’s ideologies they seem unable to accept the truth.
True, poor soul. May God protect her
@serbaserbi666 maybe she needs to find God...
The world could learn from this young lady. She lost the debate and badly but she didn't act up and start being rude. She understood him and took the learning process well. This guy as well. He didn't act like a jerk. He understood where she was coming from and didn't embarrass her in the process. Respect to both.
and u have just proved the point on how respect is earned! respect can never be demanded from one party simply becos they think they are entitled to it...i like how he differentiated the right to speak from the nonexistence of a right to be respected! you have my respect too...
@@emmaafa4210 why thank you. I deeply appreciate it. I subscribed to your channel as a way of showing appreciation. Respect for you as well.
No one can learn from a dumb child tgat was never taught right from wrong.
That is the least worrying problem. But a good feature!
She is still delusional as the rest.
She is not thinking for herself, she is following a trend and need to wake up.
I'm generally polite to people. But I don't respect people unless they've earned that respect. That's the difference.
She’s confusing common courtesy with respect. One is the norm the other is earned.
Yes, exactly.
💯 #Truth
This girl was a breathe of fresh air at least. She was actually there to debate, not just shout at him.
Agreed. But she still got destroyed
I liked that girl. She was actually trying to be fair and just wanted to be nice.
Can we get this comment as a like button
Agreed! She was polite and eloquent. I disagreed with her main point, but she represented herself very well.
She could do voice acting, like a fluffy rabbit in a Disney film.
So if a name is “not that deep” then why is it “shattering” to be called a different name? She’s eating her own argument
I agree
the contradiction...deal with my shit because it's not a big deal. If it's not a big deal then why do you get pissed when I don't do it?
The speed it went from shattering to not that deep was amazing.
perfect description of liberalism
Respect is earned, not given.
That's a literal & societal TRUTH.
I've heard it put this way. Respect is commanded, not demanded.
That concept while true is now racist.
Absolutely correct, but people do not like to be told that.😁🤣
Exactly!
They go and deform their bodies and go through physical pain and commit to requiring medical help for the rest of their life to maintain their deformities, but someone calling them the wrong name is shattering to them?!?!
Must not have been confident w their choices. The fact that this says so much more about them than anyone else is crazy
What is wrong with calling someone the name they changed too?
I havent heard anyone upset about cis people changing names, you all respect it because they arent trans. Fucking hypocrisy at its finest.
This doesnt even have anything to do with being trans. Anyone with common decency will respect anothers name change. To do it just because they are trans is just plain bigoted
Just imagine their thoughts when they realize they were misguided by their “friends” who encouraged these actions instead of encouraging them to seek psychological help for their mental delusions.
"Deadnaming would shatter my thousands of trans friends" immediately followed by "well why do names matter so much?"
The principles are strong with this one...
Does anyone really have thousands of friends, let alone trans friends?
Hmmm...indeed.
@@jonmarx7882 Psych studies in the 90s capped a given individual's ability to maintain friendships of any meaningful sense at about 150. Acquaintances are around 500.
At 1000, it's people you can perhaps remember their name, but probably nothing else.
Nobody on earth has ever had 150 real friends. I'd be surprised if someone was able to manage 15 close friends.
@@jonmarx7882 Some people have a lower valuation of friendship than others. Either that, or an overinflated valuation of acquaintanceship.
She seems like a decent person, with a lot of potential, who sadly has been sucked in by all the poison and trash.
Sucked in by liberalism.
These is destroying the moral of the young people in the west. We are allowing the suicide rate to go through the roof top. Its treason. There is no disproportionate reaction to that. This is what religion and values are for. To protect children from groomers trying them to have face tattoos, to have meth and oxis, and also to have gender reafirming surgery.
Walked up to the mic with 0% logic potential and 100% emotional expression is a lose - lose.
These type of people just do not get it that emotions cannot beat logical fact.
YUP 🗣️
I am so grateful for Charlie Kirk and others who are fighting this insanity!
Shattering to be called by the name your loving parents chose for you 😂
Find someone with a higher intelligence rather, your bar is pretty low.
Did you know that the brain of a male and the brain of a female are different and that some people are born with a brain that doesn't match their body ? They can study a brain, not knowing where it came from, and tell you if it came from a male or a female and be right most of the time. If you are born with a male body but have a female brain, that's not insanity. That's not a mental disorder. That's just a brain doing it's job. You want them to change their brain to match their body, why can't they change their body to match their brain, they're both biological ? Even Jordan Peterson says that roughly 10% of males are feminine and 10% of females are masculine but , he doesn't explain WHY ? I believe there is a reason for everything. We all know a female that is masculine or a male that is feminine. It's very common. It's not an anomaly. Like with most things, there are different levels, different spectrums such as what we see with autism.that could explain why therapy doesn't always work. How do you change a male brain, that's physically a male brain, into a female brain, it can't be done. We are just learning these things. They didn't have MRI's in the Bible. Try to keep an open mind.
Me too
Well said! Respect is not a right, it is earned.
Not really. Respect is something you have that you show to other people. It is courtesy. You have it, or you don't. And, if you don't show respect, you have no right to expect others to show respect to you. It's not like a paycheck you work to get.
@@jayejaycurry5485 Respect is an earned right. What you said is basically the same thing. The quote "if you don't show respect, you have no right to expect others to show respect to you." is the same as "if you want to earn respect, you must show respect". Respect is earned.
@@chrisg6492 No, it's not the same thing. You cannot do anything to get respect from someone who has no respect to give. You can try to earn it but you'll never get it.
Another way of looking at it. It is common courtesy to show respect when meeting a stranger, even though the stranger has not had the opportunity to earn that respect, as you claim. The same is true from the stranger's point of view.
@@jayejaycurry5485 You are still saying that it's being earned. "You can't get respect if..." is implying that it is something that can be earned. Earning something IS getting something. Some people have no respect to give, meaning you cannot earn respect from that person.
I don't understand your point. You say that it can't be earned but then give a paragraph about earning respect from a stranger. It's something that must be earned, and you cannot earn it from some people.
Also, a respectful demeanor is not the same as really respecting them on the inside.
@@chrisg6492 Your twisting my words around to make it seem like I'm agreeing with you. I'm not. And I said nothing about a stranger earning respect. You are probably right that you don't understand what I'm saying. Civilized people give respect automatically until the other person rejects it. Barbarians give no one respect until the other one shows something of value.
"Respect n. Deferential esteem felt or shown towards a person." AED.
What you're talking about is admiration, reverence.
Old school men with morals like this man should start to show up and stand again. Respect is earned and not a right.
I agree; however, it’s difficult when the liberals in America call people like this man racist and homophobe when they are not.
I was born in the late 60's and "Respect is earned" was a basic rule that my parents drilled into my head which is why they also made it clear that "actions speak louder than words". These younger generations were never taught either of these concepts. They demand respect for doing nothing more than existing and the world does not work that way no matter how loud the shout.
The key word is entitled. Today’s young adults are way too entitled and it’s their parents fault for refusing to discipline their children at a young age. Too many participation trophies
Why do you put every one in the same boat?
@@puppetmaster3371 I don't. If the statement does not apply to you then great. If it does then embrace it and reflect. I work with a lot of well educated young people of all races and I see the entitlement like I have never seen before. You can't just expect people who have lived for a while to ignore their experience in order to make what we are seeing now ok as the new normal
@@puppetmaster3371 Because he can. You proved his point. You're demanding the respect that you haven't earned from him. It obviously bothered you because you relate to what he's saying. Your insecurity was exposed. If you're nothing like he said then why did it trigger you? You're in the same boat and in denial. Thanks for pointing that out. Stop being so sensitive.
Thats a fact. And also, i was taught to respect my elders.
Which apparently doesnt apply any more.
We are in so much trouble as a society. Basic knowledge is out the window and we have people so bored with their pampered American life that they have to find ways to feel oppressed.
yup and the answer is simple.... Prusuit Scientific Answers for the future No mather what the cost is.... Culture, Human lifes, Feeling's and so on so on... is ALL Irrelevant.............. if bulding a spaceship to colonize another planet would Cost All the transe people in the Worlds Life..... its a Trade Worth taking for the human race........ Sounds Asshole... but its Mathemathicaly Facts............
Great comment. Totally utterly agree!
Yes. 100% true.
Oh you think it's just Americans? Best keep up with world events, bub.
Dumb students sure are attracted to microphones
It was refreshing to see a student act sincerely and not aggressive or condescending.
“You have a right to speak. You have to earn respect in a civilized Society” That’s one heck of a good point!!!
He said "you have to earn respect in a decent society".
But yes it's a great point.
This was a very level headed debate. Respect to both parties for keeping it civil
She didn't freak out, scream, and storm off. I like that she approached the situation with a mindset to have a conversation, even if he didn't agree with her stance.
i totally agree with you. Sad thing though is that the behaviors you mentioned are not what we should EXPECT from an adult. As an adult, she should be able to calmly state her point and behave respectably when someone doesn't agree with her. It is sad that so many choose not to behave their age.
Yes!
She didn't literally bark. That's an achievement
“I have a lot of trans friends” 😂
America is Not going to accept mental delusions with force! Well Said Charlie! 🎉❤
"I'm NOT going to accept Mental Delusions with force"
BOOM!
She's not aware of it. Does she know that. Respect is earned.
You can tell she's an outlier from many, as she actually seems to have a heart....and someone you could have a conversation with. Good on her.
Absolutely. I totally respect everything she said and especially the way she said it. She should be very proud.
The fact that we as a society are even having this discussion shows just how far we have our heads up our ass.
It's like a Southpark episode that never ends. I think.covid melted people's brains!
The title exclaims that this girl is “RADICAL” but she’s probably one of the most level headed and reasonable examples of a left leaning student.
I absolutely AGREE!!! You will probably never hear me say this again... but she was SO MUCH MORE understanding and kind vs how harsh Charlie was. Usually don't see it flipped this way
Yea she's just an empath.
No she's not. She's indoctrinated and brainwashed.
Clickbait title of course!
@@Uouttooo yeah but for a organization and founder who pride themselves on “the truth” it kinda bothers me to see it just be an out right lie for the sake of views you know?
She wasn’t delusional, she realised the faults in what she was saying but was stubborn enough to stick with it. She doesn’t believe it deep down.
“I am not going to accept mental delusions with force.”
Powerful statement
You can't always get what you want. You can't make people do what you want. The sooner you're okay with this, the happier you'll be.
AWESOME STATEMENT!!!!
Boy you said a mouthful here.
I think she may not have played games where she lost or there was a clear winner and loser. Everyone probably received a participation trophy while she was younger. Life isn't fair but she didn't learn this fact yet. 😕
The problem nowadays is the level of common standards. The left is trying to bring the standards down to nothing. I have a common decency to behave a certain way to you and your family and everyone else
@@hgib3 thank you!
Respect to the girl for not getting flustered or upset. A lot of people would freak out when people clapped for Kirk's argument but she kept her cool.
She is actually too illiterate to do anything else but keep her cool.
@@ppheanix pretty mean (mean-spirited). She's trying. Nah that was a bs comment. Gonna pretend didn't hear that. Fortunately Ill-spirited criticism doesn't count (until you say something actually something I can take seriously)
@@tommychappell6359 FACT !!!
This so called student and I use the term advisedly, has trouble making sense of the question she wants to ask as she fights to bring together the words that will form the question !
@@ppheanix yeah but she's pretty young. Can't rly blame her. For scrambling few words. I mean Maybe. she's got a good heart though which is I think just as important, seems like nice person, give some leg for trying. In few years she might have all questions/answers we just don't know. She flopped on her words. But I found it bit cute. Like fluffy parrot. I mean hey least some people even HAVE courage to stand up and make a flop-up. And she still managed to hold it together even when she potentially NEW she made a mistake. It was a courageous one.
@@tommychappell6359 Are you trying to kid me !?
She is a college or university student, not a child and she is trying to articulate an adult topic, so please don't try to minimize her inabilities.
If she is the vanguard of the trans gender debate, then they are on a hiding to nowhere AND the LBWGTOQIA+ community must be shaking their heads in disbelief.
If one is gonna go up against someone like CK, one had better be prepared to go hard or get smashed.
Its refreshing to see how calmly both expressed their points 👍
"I have alot of trans friends"
Ahhhh my fave argument, good for you hunny a round of applause
And you know 90% are doing it to be “cool”.
Today is stupid. We thought drugs were issues!? I ish you not. I rather face that, then “I wanna chop my **** off!!!!”
I have a color TV
@cindybin2001 lol right? Everyone is trans bow lol
And if she claims that no one goes around saying their trans, how does she know she has trans friends?
@@annealcorn105 FACTS!
She was very respectful and she was a breath of fresh air. If more could be like her that would be great
If they were all like her then more people would probably be open to accepting it. But when you sit there and try to yell and scream and cry about someone not calling you what you want when it’s biologically wrong, nobody is going to listen or respect you. Hopefully these people will take notes from this woman.
She rambled and said a bunch of nothing and more delusion. Yes, she was respectful but that doesn't change that her entire talking points were all over the place and didn't make one bit of sense
@@dannyblaq9433 I agree, sadly that seems to be the norm with people who have a leftist view point. But I personally think that those who are respectful like herself have a higher chance of seeing the light and coming to understand the truth behind ideals of the right
@@bethanybrakebill3599 These types of leftists and liberals ONLY exists in the first world as they are the product of entitlement and privilege. No where in the world where people deal with real problems such as hunger, poverty, war, etc do they care about what the left cares in the West. Their entire existence is pretty much only possible because they were afforded such an easy life where they had to fight for nothin. The No Bullying campaigns, etc from where I come from "bullying" built character, it made you have to deal and navigate difficult situations. You don't see this in the East like Asia, India, Africa, Russia, Middle East that's where life is real. The same thing with the "respect" you earn it every day, you can't demand respect or make someone respect you when they don't. That's a delusion as well. People like her really turn my stomach to believe that this is how the world really works.
She is someone you can talk to and learn unlike someone who tries to explain but angry at same time.
Demanding respect and acceptance all the while refusing to offer it to anyone who they don’t like.
As Charlie himself said in his debate with the communist a while back.... "Maybe there's a good reason for censoring certain speech" He literally said that. LOL
Not just with people they do not like. Even if you simply disagree with them they want to cancel, sanction etc you but then they Demand respect. As Charlie said respect is earnt and can never be demanded. How can I respect someone who does not know what gender they are? Am in my 70's now and never thought I would live to see the day when mental patients ran the asylum but that is what we have today and most of the so-called normal population are trying to convince us this is normal and desirable. WTF?
Exactly! Respect is earned, not just randomly given out. When are these children going to grow up?
I got lectured by ppl like this growing up only to find out as an adult that I was logical my whole life.
This young woman is ridiculous God bless Charlie Kirk he has a lot of patience Patience I would never have keep up the good work Charlie God bless you and yours
I like this kid, she is sincerely trying to be respectful to everyone. It is clear she is searching for the answers and struggling with her questions. I salute her actually because she is open to consider his argument. If only more youngsters followed her lead, and I hope she gains the understanding she is striving for.
It's not respectful to buy into someone's mental delusion
@@Trump.2024-qy8pe It's not normal to consider buying into someone's mental delusion especially if that mentality is left inspired.
I can agree with that
But she is wrong.
Very, very, very wrong.
she'll outgrow her marshmallow guilt sooner or later
Props to the young lady for at least listening and behaving respectfully. Maybe there's hope for her 🙏🏻
+1
She didn't annoy me the way so many others do in these discussions.
Someone who has a "feeling" isnt always correct. To be a woman from a man it takes more than outer makeup to be a woman and dangerous thing about transition can make actual women vulnerable.
@@peace9265 A few years ago when the transgender thing first became so visible, my daughters were in middle school. I watched in horror as it almost became a "trend" for the kids to start changing their genders and names, etc. One of my daughters close friends was begging to transition and I'm so glad her mother got her some psychological help because it ended up (to no one's surprise) being a phase. She wont even talk about or address that time in her life now. These poor kids that are finding their way in life, struggling with their identity and being accepted, peer pressure. I always tell my kids if this would have happened when I was young I probably would have made a terrible mistake. I was so confused as an adolescent and went through every phase and stage imaginable. Children don't have the brain development to make such choices. It's so sad.
@@karenmilford7809 Parents need to be able have authority over children. When that right is forced from them then it becomes harder to discipline them as well as explaining them in the nicest way. Children gets more power and they learns nothing except that they want it and they gets it. There are Boys looking like girls but they ain't and vice versa
She can't make up her mind, it's just respect, not that deep- but it's shattering.
The only way to EARN respect from other is... respecting others. Someone should teach him that.
She’s a sweet heart and sincere but Charlie did own her.
Yep! He's very principled, and sadly she isn't.
No he did not own her. He own the stupid ideas that she has been brainwashed to belive.
Sorry for my english
I bet she has a nice hairy gash as well.
When you are seriously unsure of yourself, especially your feelings, any criticism thereof will infuriate you!!
Like ... Can people stop saying like for no reason at all ... One can be telling me the most serious of topics . But as soon as they say like ... It's over , I'm staring off into the distance . I speak a few languages , and I understand a few more . Sorta like literally bro , dude .
Too many people are emotionally broken.
Totally demoralized people fall easily for Queer Theory Sexual Behavior Instruction.
@@santosmadrigal3702 funny! Agree.
That's a really good point. I think trans people know they are living in deep delusion and sin, and they have to avoid that thought at all costs, so they strike out in violence and anger when questioned. It's really very pitiable. I feel for them. Many of them have been abused as children.
@@wandertree it hit me yesterday . Gays and Lesbians can't reproduce ... But these same gays and Lesbians vote for abortion ... I thought they want to adopt ...
This girl "lost her thought" the minute she tried arguing about a mental delusion that needs reaffirming... Shattering !!!!
I have a great deal of respect for this young lady. She disagreed with him, but she was willing to listen and have a dialogue with him.
Much respect to this girl. She was calm, not interrupting, not cussing or giving the finger.
Yeah well when you try to make yourself more important than you are by people pleasing, that snowballs into something else. Subservience even with facts laid out.
She definitely was more respectful and calmer than most leftist many she is the very rare liberal that is actually liberal.
I give her credit for being calm and respectful. But her argument has no logic. She said names aren't a big deal and at the same time said her Trans friends would be devastated if you called them by their given name. Plus if be called any name devastates you he are going to have problems making it in this world.
@@ronaldfloyd9396 True
Still wrong.
she was wrong anyway...
good manners, but wrong ideas
She actually sounds not like these angry ideologues but actually like someone who’s a sweetie and cares, it’s just sad cause those type of people can actually be manipulated by the overzealous political ideologues some times
Indeed, they need to learn to not allow people to bully them into particular ways of thinking.
A young person shouldn't even have this on his or her radar. Should be enjoying good health and freedom from all the life setbacks coming later.
So he can disrespect everybody before they earn his respect?
What a huge bag of BS
She is having a great genuine conversation without getting overly emotional and abusive...
No, "I mean"...
Yeah I'm actually giving some kudos to the girl. She does seem slightly naive, but she's at least honest. She's not overly emotional about it. She's not irrational by any means.
And she genuinely seems like a decent person. This is what a conversation of conflicting views should look like
@@redneckrambo9626 I agree, she seems like she has a very kind heart. I'm also guessing because her kind nature, she's been confused and taken advantage of by the "trans community."
This young lady is not fully gone. May God bless her and help her find the truth.
I can appreciate the way this lady challenged him. She was respectful and sincere with her questions.
Decency should be given. Respect should be earned.
I have always taught my children and my grandchildren, that respect is not given it is earned.
More power to you Charlie! this is a crazy world we live in.
He lives in a country where millions of kids are strapped down to have their genitals cut in two and he says nothing. First order hypocrite.
Totally agree.
She was great expressing her opinion with out the attitude you so often get. I give her props for that.
Yes, and now reread the click bait title of the video again xD
By her logic that means that any woman who gets married and changes their last name didn’t exist or had biography prior to her marriage.
"Respect" means different things to different people. Some people believe that not being afraid them is disrespect.
Many people, including "trans" act out violently toward anyone they believe has "disrespected" them.
Anything that is subjective is meaningless and therefore worthless.
You're not losing your thoughts, you're losing the argument!
This guy can speak for me 99.7% of the time.
Same!
The other .30% it's because you're trans
@@tyronefranco9180transgender crap is overly confusing.
I see what you did there 👍🏻
She is just an adorable little girl who is confused from being fed with trash
She honestly just seems like the sort of girl who wants everyone to be happy. She disagreed with him but she wasnt even coming at him try attack him in a sense. Just trying to get an understanding of it all and where he was coming from. Shes a very good person at the core you can just tell hey
People who support the same position as she does are generally more respectful than the ones who firmly condemn what they hate as "delusional" or "insane." Many comments in this thread notice how respectful she was- as if they actually weren't expecting that in the first place. I think that explains enough how the other side has played this out- making it all about respect for trans when it isn't. It's about respecting the fact that THERE IS ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW that exists- that whether you agree that there are only two biological sexes is NOT the issue.
If we can agree that the term "God" can be used whether God really exists or not is the same as agreeing on the terms for trans whether we agree with their reality or not. The only perspective that doesn't deserve respect is one that creates public harm and poses a DIRECT, PHYSICAL threat (clear and present danger) to the well-being of society (e.g. cult ideology that justifies crime).
@@turquoisemoon3654 truth is not hate. Mutilating children is hate. Allowing a person to fall into a community that has incredibly higher rates of suicide, depression, and psychiatric episodes AFTER transition is Hate- If he doesn't call it what it is then we all live in delusion. He is direct and unapologetic as he should be. I did not see him attack anyone. There is a reason why people are pointing out her sincerity. She listened to him, and he listened to her- that was an honest debate/conversation- people yelling and refusing to listen to what he is talking about IS the MAJORITY. I have seen this stuff for 5 decades. I used to be on the side of liberal thought- however, in the liberal world-it was their constant insane, incoherent, and flat-out lies that made me realize I was living in an echo chamber and I wasn't allowing truth to penetrate.
@@TheLionTheLambRom1221 We blame transitioning as the cause of depression- but aren't these debates contributing? Society's persecution complex runs deep. We argue that biological sex must be the basis of one's identity- therefore justifying mutilation as well since those who want to change their biological sex are thinking along the same lines- I feel, think, and have desires no different from a woman, I should have a vag*na kind of thinking. Mainstream society establishes the NORM, causes confusion among those who don't fit in the norm- even tolerates harassment of those who don't fit in- then condemns those who try to do exactly that.
Persecution simply creates its own structures of oppression that generate even more confusion and chaos. Perhaps if we didn't have the condemnation to begin with, gays would have chosen to be as they are instead of trying to adapt to the NORM of your biological sex as the absolute determinant of identity.
We can speak of truths and blame others as delusional- but aren't the ones pointing fingers and speaking about mutilation and truths only trying to escape the fact that THEY'RE part of the problem to begin with?
Without condemnation of others whose decisions don't impact us, we'd be saving more lives. It's the truth-tellers who ARROGANTLY PRETEND they understand EVERYTHING that's causing the most misunderstandings to begin with.
Keep on judging others as delusional. That helps. As if that solves anyone's problems.
@@turquoisemoon3654 it is delusional. It is truth. If you find truth hateful then you are messed up. Nobody should hate anyone, however we cannot let mental illness be the standard. Obviously suicide stats and depression stats fall flat on someone like you. As far as treatment of homosexuality, again nobody should be mistreated. But every society before it fall allowed such practices, Persian, Greek, roman empires. We need to protect society. That is not subjective thought. We all have crosses on life. They need to hear their cross like everyone else. It is mental illness.. Again you preach love but in practice it is hate.
I’ll take her. She’s kinda cute. Might hafta put a sock or something in her mouth if she goes on too long
She is a kind soul, young and naive, and shows she is educated. I hope she learns earlier rather than later that accepting all things that are happening is not the safest way.
I actually see her point though. I don’t believe men can be women, and I also don’t think deadnaming is “shattering” and that’s snowflake BS, but a name change is a totally different thing. If I changed my name tomorrow it wouldn’t be unrealistic to expect to be called by my new name with the exception of people who already knew me as something else and forget because of habit. A little disappointed with him on this video… not offended just, think he’s not making sense.
I can appreciate that she’s willing to have a calm discussion and doesn’t go into a rage if you disagree as so many do.
Kudos for this young woman who doesn't run around the world with her agenda and push everyone into a corner with her theories. It's hard to stand up to Charlie Kirk and brave enough to face him. It is even braver to enter into a discussion and be open to the arguments of the other person, which Charlie is not always able to do.
She’s losing her thoughts, because it is as it’s always been. Indefensible. You can’t defend insanity.
When she said she was losing her thoughts, I immediately imagined comparing it to a child is certain that Santa exists, but wondering why then he has the same hand writing has mom or dad
She was very calm and respectful, and it was nice to see her maybe starting to question the narrative she has been told. But the refusal of people to actually answer factual questions that might cause their argument to fall apart is so damn irritating. Props to Charlie for keeping his annooyance with that part in check.
I hate how in our attempts to be so open minded as a society we lose the truth.
This girl seems to be a kind person, but she is mistaken in thinking that lies are harmless.
White people they think it’s their duty to force. Relief onto people
It's called the Paradox of Tolerance: the one thing we can't afford to tolerate is the intolerant. Her compassion is the very weak point gender ideology systematically targeted to gain authoritarian control, which was it's teleological aim from the start. This is just the current stage in the perpetual battle between authoritarians who will wear ANY ideological mask to gain power over others, and those who seek to safeguard the error correcting mechanisms of free society, discovered in the enlightenment. Like the endless, spinning, magnetic attraction and repulsion of Yin and Yang, Eros and Logos, Chaos and Order.
She reminds me of how we were in the 70s. Discussing things calmly and without rancor helps. I once wrote to Sen. Rudy Boschwitz (R-MN) asking him to vote for something. He sent me a return letter. In three pages he explained logically why he disagreed with me. I was convinced.
Respect is earned!!! No truer words said…..