Just checked the new model Australia pricing , OUCH !! $48,000 for the Road glide in blue or green , CVO ST all yours for $63,000 thats a lot of money for a weekend Toy
@@ramapur6851 well.....from a life long biker....Indian was first and very popular....then came Harley . ..in the 50s and early 60s all makes of bikes were around.....choppers and bobbers....honda...triumph....bsa...you name it! It seems nowadays if you don't have a desire for the old days....some of the most dependable bikes ...at a much lower price point ...are not Harley-Davidsons.
A lot of people complaining about the prices, but it's not more then any other new model heavy bagger. They are all up there in price. I think you get more support with a Harley than any other brand with aftermarket and a multitude of shops to go to as well. I ride a 2018 107ci police Road king and a 2009 96ci Street Glide
The difference is HD tacks on lots of BS charges, and negotiating prices is virtually non existent. Personally, I think they will fall hard this year with sales. We will see.
@@jimmyccee1083 Go find me a dealership that doesn't tack on BS charges. Stop singling out HD like they're the only ones who do it. They don't negotiate because they're a specialty vehicle and everyone is competing with them. You don't negotiate Bentley and Lambo prices. Kawi, Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha, their markets are flooded with bikes. So yes they'll negotiate. Indian is trying to compete with HD, so they'll negotiate. It's all really simple.
Thanks Jerry. Tempting but everything went up 30% or more who can afford a new Harley. Guess I will stick with my 2022 Road King Standard its paid for. Us old farts on a fixed income you know.
Only that basic gray is free all the other colors cost $650 - 850 and with the blacked out motor another $1,350 Yikes. Don’t forget new pipes, seat, suspension, bars and potentially new windscreen. Adds up quick.
Blue burst w/blacked out motor hands down. Until I saw the racing orange scheme. You’d have to get the matching jacket and helmet with that one. What the hell I can dream can’t I?
Thank you Jerry, just traded in my 2018 RoadGlide with a little over 50k, 23 of which I put on last year for a 24 RoadGlide blacked out in Whiskey Fire yesterday, 1/29/24, pick it up today! Thank you .
Its amazing 117 engines are now standard equipment, along with ABS ect...However it would have been nice if a standard Electra Glide 107 engine would have been offered in the touring line for 2024., for a entry level touring model and lower priced unit overall. The Alpine Green and Blue looks great on new Street Glide
The "Harley orange" paint job on CVO streetglide is rockin' hot. Yeah, 6k more but as they say, "in for a penny, in for a pound", ha! Thanks for the previews.
Enjoyed your review of these bikes Jerry! I love the Golden White Pearl, Blue Burst, Alpine Green, and that Whiskey Fire really stands out! I think the CVO ST’s have a track mode as well. Not sure. 😊
Yes the CVO ST does have a track mode. According to H.D. Kyle Wyman designed that track mode so as to make the cornering ABS and the traction control less intrusive on the track.
I just purchased a 2023 heritage classic. I got one heck of a deal on it because the dealership is trying to get rid of the 23s to make more room for the 24s. For me, unless there is a huge difference that I see beneficial, I'd rather go with a prior year model if one is still available brand new.
Probably release the Icon models during Daytona Bike Week. I was hoping they were going to release the Bronx type model they showed a few years ago, but no dice.
Should probably give up on the Bronx for quite some time. Since they've pulled it there's literally been no news on it. The PanAm will have to do better before HD seriously branches out into different genres.
@@JG-ho9uz Yes the Bronx is dead for now. I would have liked it for just a second bike to ride locally. I will have to be happily ride my 2022 Electra Glide Standard or buy a metric for a second bike. I don’t like the Sportster S or the Pan Am.
@@RandyCRR Not a bad idea. I keep thinking the new Sportsters are growing on me till I see the left side of the bike lol. The Pan Am's look grew on me but I have no need for an ADV bike. So I just admire from afar.
I ride an FLHTK and while I don't intend to replace it yet, I am not impressed with the blacked out trim. But more importantly, the new 121 VVT motor has a drastically improved crankcase ventilation system. I see no evidence that this improvement extends to the 114 or the 117. As cylinder blow-by increases as the motor ages, the closed loop system currently in use will ultimately destroy the motor with carbon build up. HD knows how to fix this, they seemingly just refuse to engineer the necessary mods.
Ohh no. You don't get to do this to HD. It is not JUST Harley's engines that do this. Nearly ALL engines do this. Because it is illegal per EPA to vent the extra air pressure into the atmosphere. Just get a vented dipstick or catch can under throttle bottle or the Trask crank replacement. Do your research before you come in and dump on Harley like they're the only ones who do this.
@@JG-ho9uz I am well aware that the EPA demands engineering design that prevents crankcase venting to the environment. My issue is simply that HD still sends this refuse by the shortest possible track to the throttle body. While it cause little issue with the twin cams, it causes serious problems for the M8 and given the sophisticated engineering of the 121's crankcase ventilation path, they know how they can reduce problems to their motors.
@@rickbush2914 Like I said earlier, literally every engine does this. I agree that it seems to effect the M8 more so than the TC (probably due to the larger displacement) and others but as in all things, there are M8s that go onto 100k miles and never an issue without a vent and M8s that go out under 10k. But people are so critical of HD for whatever reason when every engine does this. While there might have been something they could have done to make it better, the problem would still persist. Do I have a solution besides the venting? No. But neither does anyone else talking about it.
@@JG-ho9uz It's fairly simple and I borrowed the idea from Solberg Manufacturing but I would like to see Harley vent crankcase pressures from another source (like maybe a large vent in the transmission case equalizer - Trask method). Those emissions could be run through an expansion chamber to cool the air and contain the oil vapors. That cooled air could now be routed back to the throttle body. Less very hot crankcase air would improve engine performance. I just have to figure out how to remove the condensed oil vapors in the expansion chamber back to the oil tank.
@@rickbush2914 I honestly think if that if it was that easy HD would just do it. Then again, we are talking about Harley here. Regardless, the main problem isn't the temperature of the air going into the throttle body. It's that there's oil in that air. I'm not aware of any way to prevent oil traveling with it, unless your proposition of cooling it prior to going back into the throttle body would significantly less the amount of it.
In 1965 my highschool auto mechanics teacher commented on how he couldn't understand why racers preferred a lot of chrome on their engines instead of painting engines flat black. He went on to explain that yes, black attracts heat and light colors like chrome reflect heat. He said if your engine temperature is hotter than the outside temperature (which it always is) you get the reverse effect and the black helps cool the engine by absorbing the outside temperature. I own a 2010 FLHTC I have blown two primary seals off the main shaft from overheating in the rear cylinder and my engine is black. Jerry, you said that you prefer the chrome engine. If these new models have the same overheating issue as my bike don't go near chrome. I proved my teacher's theory when I put my hand on my friend's 69 Bonneville, chrome oil tank and comparing it to my black Bonneville oil tank. The difference in temperature was substantial.. As Mick Jagger said Paint it Black.
Seen an atlas silver in Pensacola Fla HD in the 2023 street and road glide specials and they are one of the sharpest colors I have seen in Harley Davidson lineups
Jerry, love your videos. Some time ago you showed us a really nice jacket you bought. It was nylon, had armor but was quite light and I bought one…for under $100. Loved it…lost it and cannot remember what it was. Can you help?
The white onyx pearl is really nice. I’ve seen it on the Road King and the Ultra Limited already, earlier this year. I’m sure I’ll like it on these new Street Glides and Road Glides.
Just ran a comparison of the Road Glide and Road Glide Limited. interesting that the Limited is basically last years bike, none of the upgrades, and RDS is extra.
This is not new news. The Limiteds stayed on the website and was delivered to dealers in like, December. Everyone knew the RG and SG were gonna pick up CVO body lines. The Limiteds will follow, next year, year after that, once they redesign the trunk and lighting.
the carryovers have the better looking bodywork, the more functional controls, the same frame, better suspension, but they dont have the big tft screen. theyre the better option by a long shot.
Cost saving measure. VVT or not the redesigned bikes will have it so that they're all the same. Next year either the 114s will have it or the year after.
say goodbye to the old Harleys, these new Bikes Making the Rushmore years look Retro..I understand Harley has to Modernize but its not an upgrade for me, 12in LCD screens, 22 or so buttons, VVT in CVOs LOL, can u change the headlights? Thinner Bags. its a great price for 25k for new touring customers or people who just want something new but im good. Its almost like a Tesla without being Battery Powered.
Car makers have been slamming this tech into their vehicles for years now but when HD does it it's a problem? Poor HD and their "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" problem. They keep them the same its, "OLD TECH FOR NEW PRICES" and they change it "AWW I LIKED IT BEFORE BOYCOTT HARLEY" come on man give these guys a break.
Be aware-if you use your current bike as a trade-in, it's value is $3k to 6k less! Black is extra cost, colors cost even more, you need an HD headset purchase to use Car Play, there's an added dongle and charge for Vehicle Hold Control. HD maps now are subscription based. WTF!!!
Nothing is different. It's cost cutting. The redesigned bikes get it because HD isn't going to make 4 or 5 different cam covers. The 114s will get it too next year or the year after if HD keeps that engine. Either that or the 117 will be the base motor and then you'll have the 121 non VVT and the 121 VVT on the CVOs.
I hear you on the prices but remember those CVO special paint jobs are all done by hand. Which takes talent, which isn't cheap. Its not run through a machine. Go ask a paint shop that's worth anything to do that for less. For the base paint, they kept the 24 CVO within a couple grand of the pre-VVT which I is pretty good considering how much more bike the VVT ones are.
@@MarkR973 yeah I know what they’re painting. Something that still takes a lot of time to take apart, sand, prep, work by hand, etc. again, go to a good quality paint artist and talk to them about this. Talent and time costs. Hope a high-level painter or someone who legit has knowledge of this stuff might chime in.
Whiskey Fire is actually more of a burnt orange color, not red. The Harley website never does justice to any of their colors, they must be seen in person before you judge them.
I do like all the new street Glide colours with the blacked out motors. They work out aprox $44k where I live. Fast Johnny models are $50k. The new CVOs are really cool. My fav colours is the Raven metallic colour and the white with the eagle. Luv the 121 cube motor. Just carnt justify the cvo prices. They convert to $66k where I live.
They haven't redesigned the trunk yet to match the new saddlebag and tank lines. It'll come next year or year after. Might also do something new with the passing lamps to match the new fairings.
No. I think it's because you haven't shopped around enough and used the phone and google search. Watch this link ua-cam.com/video/vCpz6xuRnUo/v-deo.html
Nah, overpriced. They can keep them as far as I'm concerned;. I can afford a CVO, but I refuse to pay that much for a bike. Plus, I never buy a new-to-market design from any manufacturer. I learned that lesson with a Ford vehicle I bought years ago. Wait a while and see if the bugs get worked out. One more bike is available for someone else because I'm not buying it.
The SG and RG are literally 2k cheaper this year than in previous year. The 117 is a motor they've been making for years now and the 121 is non VVT with none of it's the previous CVO VVT issues. WTF Are you talking about?
@@kman-mi7su LMAO Fanboy? Nah. I love how you give no pushback against my factual statement against your crying on here and resort to personal attacks because you have absolutely nothing. I read your post and refuted every part of it. But you don't wanna hear it because you realized you were wrong. It's okay kid. You'll live to cry another day.
Cost cutting. Only the redesigned bikes have it. They're not gonna have 4 or 5 different cam covers. The 114 will get it eventually if they keep that engine but honestly, the 117 will probably become the base the 121 will be the upgrade and the 121 VVT will be on the CVOs.
What gimmicks? The same electronic gimmicks that cars have been putting in for several years now but it's a problem when HD does it? Harley is "Damned if you do, damned if you dont." They update their bikes "electronic gimmicks" they keep them the same "OLD TECH FOR NEW PRICES"
The 2024 Limiteds were literally delivered to HD in December and were never taken off the website. wtf Did you expect? They haven't redesigned the trunks yet to match the new bag and tank lines. They almost may do something to the passing lamps if they keep them.
I have over 1200 videos dealing with riding techniques on my Ride Like a Pro youtube channel like this one ua-cam.com/video/cCnqNzWW-9E/v-deo.html and this one ua-cam.com/video/j122r9jHQJk/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/5o0TaEUI1vg/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/o8s9T3Rvkks/v-deo.html and over 1000 more.
@@JG-ho9uz my point is that their pricey rides, that's all and when you look at the changed what is the gain to justify the cost? Their not cheaper btw for what their giving you..
i like the new features, hate the look of the bike from fender tip to fender tip though. the price isnt bad either, but im not paying that much for an ugly bike.
HD desperate to stay alive with overpriced CVO models, kinda like the boomer customers that keep buying them 😅 even basic HD will run you close to 25-30k considering all the extra shit they'll charge you at the dealership... ridiculous
The fact that you used "boomer" removes any credibility of your statement. No one is making you buy a CVO and the CVO prices have always been high. This year is no different. Milk used to be 2 dollars for a gallon. Now it's like 8 dollars. Everything is more expensive, you're just more critical of Harley because yout identity revolves are your age and how often to get to use the word boomer.
@@JG-ho9uz who made you a credibility judge? 😃 Don't like my comment? Then make an actual argument other than HDs have always been expensive, kinda my point and why their sales are tanking year after year lol
That their bike now are overpriced and not worth the money you pay for them. I have two (2) HDs. One is a 2005 Road King and the other is a 2012 FLHTP with HD sidecar. I bought them when HD was attainable. Now you need an army and a legit buy one. Plus, and the most important "cry" as you called me, is 90% of the parts are made outside the U.S. Only few things are manufactured her by the company that says "American made". My ARSE ! @@JG-ho9uz
Counting for inflation, you paid more for your 05 Road King than you'd pay for a 2024 RK Special. $17,500 in 2005 is equivalant to $27,500 today and you get a lot more bike in 2024. That's reality.
@@joelkitashima7505 Nah, I brought up a factual statement about your opinion and you immediately called me an ass. Resorting to a personal attack because you took some offense because your ego is bruised. So you made the assumption. Telling me all I need to know about the kind of person you are and how much your opinions are worth. So my original post, was in fact, true.
I’ll keep my 2014 RK. HD is now for the upper middle class and up. Unless, you want a tourer for 30K and sell your soul. I think it’s a joke. Greed at its best
@@motorman857 you never missed it. It was present in the 70’s, thru 90’s. HD price increases, have not met with increases of salaries, hence unaffordable. You might have missed the government trying to extinguish the middle class.
Have to be honest here, these prices hurt!
Watching this makes me love my paid off 2015 Ultra Classic even more 👌
My 2021 is almost paid off.
Love the ultra classic !
thank goodness my 1980 fxwg is paid for, it’s getting insane with the prices
I didn't see a single bike that made me want to rush into the dealer and trade my bike in.
Beautiful bikes and great upgrades. I wished these touring bikes had reverse for the weight like the Goldwing.
Just checked the new model Australia pricing , OUCH !! $48,000 for the Road glide in blue or green , CVO ST all yours for $63,000 thats a lot of money for a weekend Toy
way....way....too much......
I am not familiar with Harleys but know a bit about their history. Why or what maskes them so expensive?
@@ramapur6851 well.....from a life long biker....Indian was first and very popular....then came Harley . ..in the 50s and early 60s all makes of bikes were around.....choppers and bobbers....honda...triumph....bsa...you name it! It seems nowadays if you don't have a desire for the old days....some of the most dependable bikes ...at a much lower price point ...are not Harley-Davidsons.
@@arkangelnorthman thank you. They definitely retain their value.
@@ramapur6851not really
A lot of people complaining about the prices, but it's not more then any other new model heavy bagger. They are all up there in price. I think you get more support with a Harley than any other brand with aftermarket and a multitude of shops to go to as well. I ride a 2018 107ci police Road king and a 2009 96ci Street Glide
The difference is HD tacks on lots of BS charges, and negotiating prices is virtually non existent. Personally, I think they will fall hard this year with sales. We will see.
@@jimmyccee1083 Go find me a dealership that doesn't tack on BS charges. Stop singling out HD like they're the only ones who do it. They don't negotiate because they're a specialty vehicle and everyone is competing with them. You don't negotiate Bentley and Lambo prices. Kawi, Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha, their markets are flooded with bikes. So yes they'll negotiate. Indian is trying to compete with HD, so they'll negotiate. It's all really simple.
@@JG-ho9uz you have no clue what your talking about. Go away. Your a big
@@JG-ho9uz Plenty of Harley dealers don't charge BS fees that queer so many deals. Avoid the big cities and you'll find them!
@@ridgebackpilot Fair enough. I stand corrected.
Thanks Jerry. Tempting but everything went up 30% or more who can afford a new Harley. Guess I will stick with my 2022 Road King Standard its paid for. Us old farts on a fixed income you know.
Actually, the Street and Road Glide are a couple thousand less than the 2023 Specials and the ST.
Some people don’t get that fact!
Only that basic gray is free all the other colors cost $650 - 850 and with the blacked out motor another $1,350 Yikes. Don’t forget new pipes, seat, suspension, bars and potentially new windscreen. Adds up quick.
Thanks for the review! Think HD should hire you to name the colors!!
Blue burst w/blacked out motor hands down. Until I saw the racing orange scheme. You’d have to get the matching jacket and helmet with that one. What the hell I can dream can’t I?
"Cheapskate Gray" 🤣🤣
Thank you Jerry, just traded in my 2018 RoadGlide with a little over 50k, 23 of which I put on last year for a 24 RoadGlide blacked out in Whiskey Fire yesterday, 1/29/24, pick it up today! Thank you .
Very nice!
Its amazing 117 engines are now standard equipment, along with ABS ect...However it would have been nice if a standard Electra Glide 107 engine would have been offered in the touring line for 2024., for a entry level touring model and lower priced unit overall. The Alpine Green and Blue looks great on new Street Glide
The "Harley orange" paint job on CVO streetglide is rockin' hot. Yeah, 6k more but as they say, "in for a penny, in for a pound", ha! Thanks for the previews.
Enjoyed your review of these bikes Jerry! I love the Golden White Pearl, Blue Burst, Alpine Green, and that Whiskey Fire really stands out! I think the CVO ST’s have a track mode as well. Not sure. 😊
Yes the CVO ST does have a track mode. According to H.D. Kyle Wyman designed that track mode so as to make the cornering ABS and the traction control less intrusive on the track.
I just purchased a 2023 heritage classic. I got one heck of a deal on it because the dealership is trying to get rid of the 23s to make more room for the 24s. For me, unless there is a huge difference that I see beneficial, I'd rather go with a prior year model if one is still available brand new.
The road glide looks a little out with the bars sticking way up there. Takes a lot of the flow out of it on the profile view.
I was thinking the same thing. I’ll keep my 2023.
Probably release the Icon models during Daytona Bike Week. I was hoping they were going to release the Bronx type model they showed a few years ago, but no dice.
Should probably give up on the Bronx for quite some time. Since they've pulled it there's literally been no news on it. The PanAm will have to do better before HD seriously branches out into different genres.
@@JG-ho9uz Yes the Bronx is dead for now. I would have liked it for just a second bike to ride locally. I will have to be happily ride my 2022 Electra Glide Standard or buy a metric for a second bike. I don’t like the Sportster S or the Pan Am.
@@RandyCRR Not a bad idea. I keep thinking the new Sportsters are growing on me till I see the left side of the bike lol. The Pan Am's look grew on me but I have no need for an ADV bike. So I just admire from afar.
The green would look sweet with the blacked out... Wait.... Is that the challenger fairing on that road glide? 😁
Priced well beyond my consideration.
I ride an FLHTK and while I don't intend to replace it yet, I am not impressed with the blacked out trim. But more importantly, the new 121 VVT motor has a drastically improved crankcase ventilation system. I see no evidence that this improvement extends to the 114 or the 117. As cylinder blow-by increases as the motor ages, the closed loop system currently in use will ultimately destroy the motor with carbon build up. HD knows how to fix this, they seemingly just refuse to engineer the necessary mods.
Ohh no. You don't get to do this to HD. It is not JUST Harley's engines that do this. Nearly ALL engines do this. Because it is illegal per EPA to vent the extra air pressure into the atmosphere. Just get a vented dipstick or catch can under throttle bottle or the Trask crank replacement. Do your research before you come in and dump on Harley like they're the only ones who do this.
@@JG-ho9uz I am well aware that the EPA demands engineering design that prevents crankcase venting to the environment. My issue is simply that HD still sends this refuse by the shortest possible track to the throttle body. While it cause little issue with the twin cams, it causes serious problems for the M8 and given the sophisticated engineering of the 121's crankcase ventilation path, they know how they can reduce problems to their motors.
@@rickbush2914 Like I said earlier, literally every engine does this. I agree that it seems to effect the M8 more so than the TC (probably due to the larger displacement) and others but as in all things, there are M8s that go onto 100k miles and never an issue without a vent and M8s that go out under 10k. But people are so critical of HD for whatever reason when every engine does this. While there might have been something they could have done to make it better, the problem would still persist. Do I have a solution besides the venting? No. But neither does anyone else talking about it.
@@JG-ho9uz It's fairly simple and I borrowed the idea from Solberg Manufacturing but I would like to see Harley vent crankcase pressures from another source (like maybe a large vent in the transmission case equalizer - Trask method). Those emissions could be run through an expansion chamber to cool the air and contain the oil vapors. That cooled air could now be routed back to the throttle body. Less very hot crankcase air would improve engine performance. I just have to figure out how to remove the condensed oil vapors in the expansion chamber back to the oil tank.
@@rickbush2914 I honestly think if that if it was that easy HD would just do it. Then again, we are talking about Harley here. Regardless, the main problem isn't the temperature of the air going into the throttle body. It's that there's oil in that air. I'm not aware of any way to prevent oil traveling with it, unless your proposition of cooling it prior to going back into the throttle body would significantly less the amount of it.
Liking the red road glide with the black out
In 1965 my highschool auto mechanics teacher commented on how he couldn't understand why racers preferred a lot of chrome on their engines instead of painting engines flat black.
He went on to explain that yes, black attracts heat and light colors like chrome reflect heat.
He said if your engine temperature is hotter than the outside temperature (which it always is) you get the reverse effect and the black helps cool the engine by absorbing the outside temperature.
I own a 2010 FLHTC I have blown two primary seals off the main shaft from overheating in the rear cylinder and my engine is black.
Jerry, you said that you prefer the chrome engine.
If these new models have the same overheating issue as my bike don't go near chrome.
I proved my teacher's theory when I put my hand on my friend's 69 Bonneville, chrome oil tank and comparing it to my black Bonneville oil tank.
The difference in temperature was substantial..
As Mick Jagger said Paint it Black.
Seen an atlas silver in Pensacola Fla HD in the 2023 street and road glide specials and they are one of the sharpest colors I have seen in Harley Davidson lineups
Thanks Jerry.
Jerry, love your videos. Some time ago you showed us a really nice jacket you bought. It was nylon, had armor but was quite light and I bought one…for under $100. Loved it…lost it and cannot remember what it was. Can you help?
I like the colors and the new faring and dash
The white onyx pearl is really nice. I’ve seen it on the Road King and the Ultra Limited already, earlier this year. I’m sure I’ll like it on these new Street Glides and Road Glides.
Just ran a comparison of the Road Glide and Road Glide Limited. interesting that the Limited is basically last years bike, none of the upgrades, and RDS is extra.
This is not new news. The Limiteds stayed on the website and was delivered to dealers in like, December. Everyone knew the RG and SG were gonna pick up CVO body lines. The Limiteds will follow, next year, year after that, once they redesign the trunk and lighting.
the carryovers have the better looking bodywork, the more functional controls, the same frame, better suspension, but they dont have the big tft screen. theyre the better option by a long shot.
The cam cover looks the same as the one on the 121 motor with vvt.
Cost saving measure. VVT or not the redesigned bikes will have it so that they're all the same. Next year either the 114s will have it or the year after.
say goodbye to the old Harleys, these new Bikes Making the Rushmore years look Retro..I understand Harley has to Modernize but its not an upgrade for me, 12in LCD screens, 22 or so buttons, VVT in CVOs LOL, can u change the headlights? Thinner Bags. its a great price for 25k for new touring customers or people who just want something new but im good. Its almost like a Tesla without being Battery Powered.
Car makers have been slamming this tech into their vehicles for years now but when HD does it it's a problem? Poor HD and their "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" problem. They keep them the same its, "OLD TECH FOR NEW PRICES" and they change it "AWW I LIKED IT BEFORE BOYCOTT HARLEY" come on man give these guys a break.
Be aware-if you use your current bike as a trade-in, it's value is $3k to 6k less! Black is extra cost, colors cost even more, you need an HD headset purchase to use Car Play, there's an added dongle and charge for Vehicle Hold Control. HD maps now are subscription based. WTF!!!
I'll advise H.D. to list you as a ''MAYBE'' for a 2024 CVO.🤣
Like the price of the SG in Billard Grey in Chrome for 25,999 MSRP
Wander why the VVT cover when there’s no VVT? Something must be different?
Nothing is different. It's cost cutting. The redesigned bikes get it because HD isn't going to make 4 or 5 different cam covers. The 114s will get it too next year or the year after if HD keeps that engine. Either that or the 117 will be the base motor and then you'll have the 121 non VVT and the 121 VVT on the CVOs.
I hear you on the prices but remember those CVO special paint jobs are all done by hand. Which takes talent, which isn't cheap. Its not run through a machine. Go ask a paint shop that's worth anything to do that for less. For the base paint, they kept the 24 CVO within a couple grand of the pre-VVT which I is pretty good considering how much more bike the VVT ones are.
Their painting a bike not an suv…
@@MarkR973 yeah I know what they’re painting. Something that still takes a lot of time to take apart, sand, prep, work by hand, etc. again, go to a good quality paint artist and talk to them about this. Talent and time costs. Hope a high-level painter or someone who legit has knowledge of this stuff might chime in.
Money, money, money. I’m glad to see extra’s are now standard, but one way or another you’re gonna pay.
Whiskey Fire is actually more of a burnt orange color, not red. The Harley website never does justice to any of their colors, they must be seen in person before you judge them.
I do like all the new street Glide colours with the blacked out motors. They work out aprox $44k where I live. Fast Johnny models are $50k. The new CVOs are really cool. My fav colours is the Raven metallic colour and the white with the eagle. Luv the 121 cube motor. Just carnt justify the cvo prices. They convert to $66k where I live.
66K is nothing compared to Zimbabwe. There, it's 23 trillion, 885 billion, 400 thousand dollars.
Not sure why they didn't do all that to the RG Limited. No new fairing, no RDRS standard. What is up with that?
They haven't redesigned the trunk yet to match the new saddlebag and tank lines. It'll come next year or year after. Might also do something new with the passing lamps to match the new fairings.
they didnt want to alienate people who care about styling.
We are seeing prices of $45,000 for the 2024 models. Haven't seen a $25,000 sticker in about 5 years. Is this because prices in Florida are that low?
No. I think it's because you haven't shopped around enough and used the phone and google search. Watch this link ua-cam.com/video/vCpz6xuRnUo/v-deo.html
I say "Battleship Grey"!
No stretched bags ?
The bag stretcher tool is available from the accessory catalog.😉
Thanks for not saying "Standard" 77 times like every other reviewer.
I’ve ridden Harleys for decades, but the prices are just too much.
I currently ride a 2018 road king, and I don’t see me purchasing another Harley.
They just reduced the price of the St Glide and Road Glide by 2 to 5000 dollars! That's not enough?
I looked at a new CVO recently, I believe the salesman said it was over $40,000.
Nice bike but not worth that to me
Any color with chrome looks better imho
Wow they look like 🚀 spaceships…
Glad they parted ways with the stretched bags, awful they were!
The icon models are nicer… although I do like the cvo road glide st look in black and I prefer chrome…
Nah, overpriced. They can keep them as far as I'm concerned;. I can afford a CVO, but I refuse to pay that much for a bike. Plus, I never buy a new-to-market design from any manufacturer. I learned that lesson with a Ford vehicle I bought years ago. Wait a while and see if the bugs get worked out. One more bike is available for someone else because I'm not buying it.
The SG and RG are literally 2k cheaper this year than in previous year. The 117 is a motor they've been making for years now and the 121 is non VVT with none of it's the previous CVO VVT issues. WTF Are you talking about?
@@JG-ho9uz WTF are you talking about upset fanboy? Reading comprehension ain't your strong point, is it? You a paid spokesperson for HD?!?!
@@kman-mi7su LMAO Fanboy? Nah. I love how you give no pushback against my factual statement against your crying on here and resort to personal attacks because you have absolutely nothing. I read your post and refuted every part of it. But you don't wanna hear it because you realized you were wrong. It's okay kid. You'll live to cry another day.
Where is the tooth fairy when you need one?
Hmmmm...
VVT covers... why do that if not equipped???
Cost cutting. Only the redesigned bikes have it. They're not gonna have 4 or 5 different cam covers. The 114 will get it eventually if they keep that engine but honestly, the 117 will probably become the base the 121 will be the upgrade and the 121 VVT will be on the CVOs.
Which one is your favorite
The Road Glide ST in white.
Sounds like a whole lot of electronic gimicks that are sure to have issues the dealership will have problems dealing with
What gimmicks? The same electronic gimmicks that cars have been putting in for several years now but it's a problem when HD does it? Harley is "Damned if you do, damned if you dont." They update their bikes "electronic gimmicks" they keep them the same "OLD TECH FOR NEW PRICES"
I was waiting for an Ultra Limited in the new design, CVO or not, very disapointed
The 2024 Limiteds were literally delivered to HD in December and were never taken off the website. wtf Did you expect? They haven't redesigned the trunks yet to match the new bag and tank lines. They almost may do something to the passing lamps if they keep them.
@@JG-ho9uz troll
@@jimmyccee1083 Ohh a second one that you posted and can't say anything against the facts I put down. Go find another one.
@@JG-ho9uz tiny troll. I heard your job is to put air in the tires at the HD plant. True?
Your not doing training anymore? 🤔
I have over 1200 videos dealing with riding techniques on my Ride Like a Pro youtube channel like this one ua-cam.com/video/cCnqNzWW-9E/v-deo.html and this one ua-cam.com/video/j122r9jHQJk/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/5o0TaEUI1vg/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/o8s9T3Rvkks/v-deo.html and over 1000 more.
@@motorman857 I enjoy watching your training videos 🙏 I have been riding since 1986 and still learning 🤗
I’ve never been fan of these Japanese style farings on Harleys
Guess I'll have to trade in my 23 street glide for the rdrs😢
Kinda expensive for a pretty plain ride… yikes…. I thought my highway king was pricey (129 of 750) but at least it’s pretty and limited in numbers…
The SG and RG are literally 2k cheaper this year and everything else is a CVO wtf are you talking about?
@@JG-ho9uz troll go away
@@jimmyccee1083 lol Nothing constructive to say I see. Just call names and don't add anything.
@@JG-ho9uz go away. Your a 🐛
@@JG-ho9uz my point is that their pricey rides, that's all and when you look at the changed what is the gain to justify the cost? Their not cheaper btw for what their giving you..
Hot bikes, colors and prices, apart from the "primer grey" lol 🙄
I WOULDN'T PAY NO 6 THOUSAND DOLLARS
i like the new features, hate the look of the bike from fender tip to fender tip though. the price isnt bad either, but im not paying that much for an ugly bike.
Very very cheap😮😮😮. Here in cheese country we oay $43.500,00 for RG blck/blck😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
HD desperate to stay alive with overpriced CVO models, kinda like the boomer customers that keep buying them 😅 even basic HD will run you close to 25-30k considering all the extra shit they'll charge you at the dealership... ridiculous
I'll tell H.D. to list you as a ''maybe'' for a 2024 CVO.
@@motorman857 no need sir, I'm not a 60 Year old retired lawyer 🤷🏻♂️😅
The fact that you used "boomer" removes any credibility of your statement. No one is making you buy a CVO and the CVO prices have always been high. This year is no different. Milk used to be 2 dollars for a gallon. Now it's like 8 dollars. Everything is more expensive, you're just more critical of Harley because yout identity revolves are your age and how often to get to use the word boomer.
@@giorgigvinianidze2824 don’t listen to the comment by JG… He works for HD putting air in the tires after final assembly
@@JG-ho9uz who made you a credibility judge? 😃 Don't like my comment? Then make an actual argument other than HDs have always been expensive, kinda my point and why their sales are tanking year after year lol
Yeah ..... Now you can spend $ 50K on an ugly colored bike.
You can, but you don't have to. No one is forcing you to buy anything. So what are you crying about?
@@JG-ho9uz dude get a life. Your like a big on someone’s neck
That their bike now are overpriced and not worth the money you pay for them. I have two (2) HDs. One is a 2005 Road King and the other is a 2012 FLHTP with HD sidecar. I bought them when HD was attainable. Now you need an army and a legit buy one. Plus, and the most important "cry" as you called me, is 90% of the parts are made outside the U.S. Only few things are manufactured her by the company that says "American made". My ARSE ! @@JG-ho9uz
Counting for inflation, you paid more for your 05 Road King than you'd pay for a 2024 RK Special. $17,500 in 2005 is equivalant to $27,500 today and you get a lot more bike in 2024. That's reality.
I hate it!
Opinions are like assholes.
Sounds like you’re one of them
@@joelkitashima7505 You know what they say about assumptions right?
I didn’t bring up any assumptions at all. You’re making an ass out of yourself
@@joelkitashima7505 Nah, I brought up a factual statement about your opinion and you immediately called me an ass. Resorting to a personal attack because you took some offense because your ego is bruised. So you made the assumption. Telling me all I need to know about the kind of person you are and how much your opinions are worth. So my original post, was in fact, true.
I’ll keep my 2014 RK. HD is now for the upper middle class and up. Unless, you want a tourer for 30K and sell your soul. I think it’s a joke. Greed at its best
When was Harley Davidson geared to the poor and middle class? I must have missed that era.
@@motorman857 you never missed it. It was present in the 70’s, thru 90’s. HD price increases, have not met with increases of salaries, hence unaffordable. You might have missed the government trying to extinguish the middle class.
The SG and RG are literally 2k less than they have been. Go get a Kawi Vaquero if you want a bagger under mid 20k.
@@JG-ho9uz why would I? Already have a HD. If you learn how to read, please respond with a comment that makes sense.
@@jimmyccee1083 If that's the case, why come on here crying? Let me get you some cheese and crackers to go with that whine.
No stretched bags?
Nope they are gone
They're also a gimmick. Buy aftermarket.