@@slimcognito. The problem is that argument doesnt work here. People in the market for high end laptops like this need the portability. Even the most compact of itx builds doesnt compete with the utility provided here. I ordered one solely because of how often I travel and how convenient it would be. Seems much better than my current thinkpad!
I bought a Legion Pro 5i 16IRX8 in May 2023 for 1699USD. 13900HX, 32GB, 4070, 240HZ 16" IPS for $1699. Currently on sale for 1599USD. Pretty good laptop for work and games.
@shahzadshahzad5610 I have the same spec'd laptop, and it can run AAA just fine Hogwarts Legacy on High preset Medium RT with DLSS Quality gets ~100fps
This laptop costs almost 6000$ in Norway. I could build an RTX 4090 desktop with a good X670E motherboard with a top of the line Ryzen cpu and buy a Odyssey Neo G8 4k 240hz mini led monitor. And I would still have 1000 bucks left to spend on other things. It is a very impressive laptop that's for sure but it is extremely overpriced here.
I was able to get the Legion 9i Gen 8 priced out with Windows 11 Pro, the 4090, and 64GB of DDR5 at $3345 with multiple discounts. Damn! And the display is insane and the reason why I chose the 9i over the 7i. The 7i doesn't have an option for the miniLED display. So tempted to pull the trigger on this beast! I already have the Asus Scar 16 with 4080 and only 32GB DDR5, but it has the 2560 x 1600 miniLED HDR1000 display @ 240Hz. It's a great gaming laptop and I only paid $2800 for it, so may give it to my son if I get the 9i. Decisions decisions!
I have the 9i, the screen is fantastic and build quality is great. Turn off Nahemic and the speakers are pretty good too. The Spectrum software for the lighting is buggy but Legion Toolkit completely fixes it. If you can make the price right with discounts and coupons, go for it. Just beware of the weird keyboard position and small trackpad.
As impressive as this is, I see how Lenovo is not allowing any comparisons benchmark wise to the Legion 7i Pro with the same GPU. I imagine it's probably within a couple of percentage points and this laptop is $1000+ more.
The same argument can be made for the Razer Blade and Alienware laptops. There are cheap Acer gaming laptops that are more powerful than the legion 7i but I still bought a legion 9i because it looks awesome, is built better and has just a few more features.
I like the gestures of including 2 power bricks, with one being more compact. My main laptop has been a legion i7 y740 for years but i have been reluctant to bring it to classes or anywhere in fact that i dont absolutely need it for because of the power brick. And i could never bring myself to pay out nearly $200 for the slimmer charger.
Lenovo has been killing it the past couple years. My wife's laptop with a 3050 and ryzen 5 runs things buttery smooth and I have no idea how. I thought it was under spec for a lot of things I tried on it but somehow things run amazing.
its just that must things people do with ther laptops (including gaming) arent that demanding as we think of it. Yeah there much better video cards/cpu´s but playing most games on normal grapics will do with a lot of "weaker" hardware ps 3050 laptop actually quite nice not great but will do as you experienced
What is your opinion on the Lenovo LOQ series as it is kind of in the middle between ideapad series and legion series, coz in my country, legion is wayy overpriced.
Damn !! 75°C on Boost mode with a RTX 4090 at 171W ? That's mighty impressive. Also, on a side note, can you showcase gaming performance on Baldur's gate 3 act III ? That wouldn't be representative of the pc performance, but i still want to see what laptop can run fine on that act...
It’s only better than a MacBook Pro if you want a gaming laptop. For general purpose use and content creation, I prefer my MacBook Pro because it’s silent and remains fast even on battery and the battery life is very long. I have the Legion as well and it cannot compare in terms of performance on battery and overall battery life. Sure, it’s faster when plugged in and when gaming. MacBook Pro sets the gold standard in laptop design, build quality, speaker and webcam fidelity, trackpad comfort, screen crispness and battery life. As a package, it’s hard to beat.
@little_fluffy_clouds my gaming laptop battery when unplugged still lasts a few hours straight, it's quiet, and everything can still run 144fps+, and costed less than a MacBook cuz I got a sale on it
@@TheRedc0met I am aware of the differences, since I own two Legions (7i and 14 Slim OLED, and I will sell the 7i to get a 9i as soon as they start using the latest gen processors) and two MacBooks currently (14" Pro and 13" Air M2). I also have a ThinkPad P1 gen6, which is Lenovo's top-of-the-range 16" mobile workstation laptop. I've been collecting ThinkPads since IBM introduced them in 1990 and still have a vintage 760XL in perfect working condition. Apple Silicon Macs also have discrete GPUs, just not made by NVIDIA, Intel or AMD, it's Apple's own design. It's perfectly capable of running any game or productivity task, as well as ray-tracing in the recent models. There's just not enough support from big name gaming developers for making/porting AAA games for the Mac. For AI and ML work, MBP is actually a good choice since the GPU has access to all of the memory in the machine at full speed, whereas the 4090 is limited to 24 GB of VRAM. Magnesium vs. aluminium isn't that important for me since the build quality in a MacBook is immaculate, it's not like aircraft-grade aluminium isn't a premium material for laptop chassis. Each has strengths and weaknesses. If you just want to play the latest PC games, Legion is the better choice. For everything else, as a general purpose portable workhorse, MacBook Air or Pro are hard to beat.
I ended up ordering one September 3rd before reviews were live and am not disappointed. Anyone looking to get this I would recommend the 64GB option for more future proofing as the memory is underneath the motherboard, also double sided SSD will fit in both slots. I am using two Western Digital SN850X 4TB without issue. My machine came with the WiFi 7 card from MediaTek the website says it will be an Intel WiFi 6E when you buy it.
@ZOMBIE_WORLD Go with the 7i pro. Got one two weeks ago. Spectacular laptop. Don't see the need for water cooling especially when there's nothing to really keep the water cool in the first place. The 7i pro has great thermals, bright and vibrant screen and nice heft.
@ZOMBIE_WORLD Are your drivers updated? Is it on dgpu and performance mode? When I checked for system updates in vantage and windows I had many to deal with. 30+ at least after first turning on the laptop. Ive been playing Cyberpunk with Ray tracing on ultra with really good performance. Reach out to Lenovo if anything. Tech support will be able to walk you through stuff.
I personally love the useless water cooling loop. Like it just moves water around but the copper tubing isn't connected to any fins or something to actually cool the water, it just goes round and round with nothing to do the cooling part of the water cooling.
Man, I have a Legion Y740 with a 2080 Max-Q and it’s still kicking butt 3 years later. Obviously I ain’t playing nothing at 4K but I can still play most games at med/high settings off my 1440p monitor at about 80 fps. I do have a very high end desk top but I don’t planning on getting another gaming laptop for a long time. With all that being said, this machine looks amazing!
I almost bought this, but in the end went with a ThinkPad P1 gen 6 with a 16" OLED screen, the 13900H CPU and the RTX 4090 GPU. Portability is much more important to me in a laptop.
@@Usernotknown21 he needs portability, which may be counterintuitive, but even at 115W, it still outperformed 4070 even if you crank to the maximum 140W
Indeed, the type of work I do benefits from having as many CUDA cores as possible for parallelism, rather than higher clock speed. I have a separate Legion 7i Pro 4080 laptop which can run its GPU at max wattage, but it’s a significantly thicker and heavier machine.
@@sflxn naturally, this is highly subjective, but for me, it really didn’t. I’ve sold my ASUS to upgrade to the P1. There’s much more to a laptop than its list of specs. ASUS had a worse keyboard, trackpad, screen and customer support, but it was also cheaper, so not a like for like comparison. I just wanted a bigger screen without adding too much weight. For me, P1 is the best thin and light mobile workstation out there if you want the ultimate mix of quality and portability, not if you just want highest possible performance. Lenovo’s Legion series are a better fit purely for performance, as long as you don’t mind something thicker and heavier (so you’re trading off portability for performance). The Legion is a gaming-first machine with balls-out performance where you can also run productivity apps. The P1 is a mobile workstation where ergonomics, reliability and comfort comes first, so it has conservative tuning to tame fan noise and chassis temps. It can also happen to run games rather well on the side, but it’s not its primary purpose in life. To say the P1 is useless because it doesn’t run its GPU at a zillion watts is like saying a Rolls-Royce is useless because it can’t go at 200 mph. It was never designed to do that. It’s designed for users with different priorities and different preferences. I’m not hating on ASUS by the way, G14 was a really nice machine for the price and I have an ASUS X670E Extreme motherboard in my desktop PC with an ASUS Harpe mouse. It’s good to have options from different brands. It’s just that when it comes to Windows/Linux laptops, I prefer ThinkPads over anything else and I’m excited to finally have a thin and light ThinkPad which can run anything I throw at it at a good level of performance without sounding like a jet engine. The battery life still sucks, but that’s inevitable with any Intel laptop with comparable specs.
The Ram is accessible you just have to partially remove the motherboard, did it the other day and upgraded to 64GB. Takes a bit with all the ribbon cables, but totally doable.
$4499 is hella insane, to be honest!!! I know it's a laptop and with those components, it's going to be real fast but with that kind of money, you can actually build a 4090 desktop! To be honest I get the point! I am a big performance hoarder and I really think this kind of laptop is really useful for some people but laptops need to be good enough so you can do your tasks on the move but that's kinda it! thermals, battery usage, all the shit you have to carry for it just to plug it in and have the full performance it's going to make it ridiculous in the end!
you didn't get my point!@@EyeOfTheTiger777 I get that laptops are portable! I also have a laptop due to its portability! but I'm saying that at this price this thing is not what it should be! considering new prices on the market right now (in the UK for example) you can get a full speck computer (4090/64gbram/7959x) for a little over 3k and you still have something to get a decent laptop for "portability" I, for example, went out and got myself an Asus ROG Flow x13 and I can do whatever i would like to do on it without a problem... I get that this laptop will be much more powerful than a 1.5/2k laptop but sincerely when you get to this point these laptops are really not that portable anyway... all that weight and added stuff to the bag (plus you will need it to be plugged in to have that kind of performances) it's just reeeaaallyyy not worth it! not at that price! so I get that you can pick it up and go anywhere but is it worth it? at that price? and for how many people will it be? and then the manufacturers will be well we've offered them the most powerful laptops but they just didn't buy them! they must not want powerful portability... and they go and give you crap for more money... and you can really see in the comments that people are really not that attracted to the product because of its price!
Writing this on my new M16 Zephyrus (4080 version). Loving this machine so far. Great speakers, great screen, great customizability, great design, only wish these came with AMD CPUs so battery life could be better. Anything over 3k for a laptop would be too much for me so this is fine for now.
@@ratus the M16 is really nice. The sd card is uhs II, the ram is fully upgradable, space for extra SSD. It's a great machine. Gorgeous display, great speakers. The 4080 is sufficient for me for everything and sorta futureproof compared to the 4060/4070 versions. I haven't had any manufacturer defect which can happen with laptops and also almost zero light bleed.
I'm looking to get this laptop for traveling and gaming. Do you think the screen and 4080 are worth it? I was looking at the 4070, but I really want the better screen and obviously a 4080 is better, but costs like $700 more.
@@pludini5266 yeah I know what you mean. I had that dilema as well. The 4090 version is too over priced but at 2699 for the 4080 with 1TB storage and the miniled screen, it's not bad. Plus I went for the 4080 because of the 12gb vram so in later years I still have some buffer. Plus that miniled screen is great and so bright. Def notice the haloing on dark backgrounds when the screen is in multi zone config but it's an easy fix by changing to single zone. The laptop is fast and very well built. I'd definitely recommend it. If you feel the 4070 is enough and you want to save 700, then yeah go for the lower spec. Just a great laptop. Only gripe is AMD CPUs would have so much better impact on battery.
Idk why i keep watching these lol, 4k dollar is more than i get in 3 years of work. Yeah third country student life, no way my current pc cant even run youtube properly. Hope for me guys, so that i can get a decent job to afford a laptop 1/8 of the price. I cant have a desk pc, cuz i dont have a fixed home
I bought this laptop. In the intro to your video the Left side RGB LEDs are stuck on a random color. In your video it looks like Red. I have stuck red or completely off LEDs. I talked to support, and they are now tracking the issue. Hopefully there is a bios update, after talking to them I strongly think it's the spectrum software. If anyone else is having this issue, please let Lenovo know so we can get this situation fixed.
The problem also exists on my computer. German Lenovo Legion i9 with 4090. I also spoke to support. The rest of the notebook is 1A. Love it. Update - there is a workaround. RGB is OK if Legion Vintage Software is minimized and the RGB profiles are changed using Short tasks Fn+Spacebar. Only change and save your profile if necessary using Legion Vintage. Then minimize the program and use the short task to switch through the RGB profiles.
How's that liquid cooling system helping? It's just a small loop and when the water will get hot, that hot water will just run through the loop again and again. No radiator + fan to cool the water.
If the pump is not user replaceable then it’s a scary prospect. Also, how does that tiny volume of liquid cool on a longer run? The laptop IS pretty cool. But I have so many questions about it in the long run.
@@Usernotknown21Do note it's region dependent though. I paid for premium warranty, and got shafted _hard_ as the best Lenovo could offer me was repair times of over 30 days.
It won't unless you are able to run a freon style chiller system, (not even sure this exists) internally there is no way it is possible for this laptop to displace the heat generated by the components. Temps are probably fine for an hour after that you would probably burn your fingers. Spend 3.5k and build a badass gaming rig then spend another 1k for a lower pc and just stream your desktop to the laptop and sidestep the temp issue.
at first I was rushing to say "there no way this laptop would not have a severe cooling issues" but after I saw the new liquid cooling technology, there is a chance this might work well!!
I'd absolutely love a machine like this for Blender and video editing. I can't afford it though which sucks. Maybe in like five years when they're not that expensive anymore lol
Love your videos and your channel . Great reviews as always !! FYI if you will be reviewing the updated version with the 14000HX or revisit the gen 8 legion 9i there has been an update on the legion AI , now after hitting balanced and check boxing the AI self tuning box , the CPU is hitting 95 to 120 wright off without going into manual mode . Also temps have been reduced don’t know what exactly they did but my temps went down by 9 degrees . Just a heads up !
Oh wow, the cooling is truly much better than the 7i My 7i overheats with the i7 13700HX and 4060. I hope the cooling tech will trickle down to the 7 series at some point Edit: it's 5i Pro, I mixed it up sorry. Lack of sleep
Neither. My lenovo legion 5 died after a year and a half. I used to be a big lenovo fan but not now. Unacceptable. Surfed the net and I find I am not alone. Look up issues for lenovo buyers beware. Also see what they are saying about customer service.
@@little_fluffy_clouds Lucky you. I got a lemon. I had a lenovo before and was very satisfied. I just took it to the shop and will find out if they can fix it or not. In the meantime I picked up and ASUS and am happy with that so far.
Your passion for the tech world really shines through in this video. I appreciate the attention to details and the insights that often go unnoticed. I hope to convey the same passion in my videos
That is damn impressive performance and internal tech. But holy shit, that is EXPENSIVE. Almost impractically expensive imo... Like, there's the top tier of gaming laptops in terms of price, and then there's this thing. But if they're doing unique, hand-made exteriors, I guess they don't expect to sell that many anyways...
I absolutely love this laptop. Lenovo has been absolutely doing everything right in the past few years. They're knocking it out of the ballpark. I know Lenovo was struggling for a few years. But it seems like lately they're coming out with some really awesome stuff awesome stuff. The legion go also looks amazing
7:06 Honestly maybe I doubt something like sound dampening would be something people would do on laptop keyboard unless they made a way to easily to take out the keyboard from the top but hey maybe if there was a laptop that could do that then still probably not unless the laptop is cheap cause laptop keyboards just don't sound hollow usually. I could see people hand lubing everything if they wanted to go that far.
Can someone please explain, why this laptop is so much more expensive in europe? Base price in the US is 3800 dollars, in europe it's 4600€. How can this be? Euros are worth more than dollars, so it should be more like 3600€ over here. The 4090 model is 5500€ dude😂
As a current Legion 7 2021 user, this Legion 9 seems to be stepping in an interesting direction for the flagship Legion lineup, but not quite there yet. While I appreciate the effort making the top lid unique, it needs to be cleaner. This design is not edgy enough to compete with MSI, or classy enough to compete with the Blade, and the Legion audience tends to prefer a more lowkey look. Maybe this design can be reserved for special editions. Port placement also seems weird, both the sides and even the back, like they're not evenly spaced out, which is definitely an eye sore for OCD people like me. The internal water-cooling system looks cool, but I have doubts when this is put into long term usage. Lenovo could even consider implementing an additional removable cooler like those XMGs. Soldered RAMs is another turn-off for me. Removability of parts has always been part of Lenovo laptops, maybe this a temporary solution for that internal cooling, but hopefully they'll figure out another way without soldering the RAMs in later versions. Perhaps when RTX5000 series arrive, I'll jump on one of these Legion 9s if they've made these improvements.
agree with pretty much everything except for the design, i think it looks absolutely cool and way better than msi titan, but such things are subjective.. all i can do is look at these luxury laptops, hyper expensive toys
Yeah! It kinda looks like it. Been comparing it with the Razer Blade16 like forever. Only thing I don't like about it is the trackpad. Not great. Razer's is way better here but the performance on the Legion is better.
@TheDude50447 Tests are coming out. Same specs but Legion is running higher performance numbers, with cooler temperatures, and significantly less fan noise compared to the Blade 16. Lenovo has a winner here
Different people value different things. As a former legion 7i and now a razer blade 16 owner I can assure you both brands are great in their own way, but focus on different things. You normally don't buy razer if you want absolute best performance or the best price. You do it if you value a certain look. Lenovo on the other hand offers a much better cooling solution and normally a better price to perfomance value (questionable with current legion 9 prices though...) My point: I would not change my blade 16 for a legion 9, even though it certainly performs much better. I don't want the 'gamer look' of a legion. Simple as that.
@@UrdnotAkongo Yeah. Obviously Im purely talking about the pricing. Imo price to performance is still horrible for both. The Asus Scar 18 with 4080 and 13980hx was recently on sale here for 3000€. For the same specs the blade 16 is 1000 and the legion 9 1400€ more expensive.
i have been looking at this laptop for a while now and i think your review has made my mind up about the purchase. I currently run a Lenovo P1 but there are some things left to desire from that deck, though its supposed to be my work computer. I appreciate your time and your review.... keep up with the good content.
I have the P1 gen6 with a 4090 and it’s the perfect form factor and lightweight, but it means it has to power limit the GPU and the fans get noisy even in quiet mode. The 9i is bigger and heavier but has the room for quietly cooling those components without power limiting them too severely. Highly recommended if price is no issue (then again, the P1 was $6K, so the 9i is a bargain in comparison)
Right, you can build a SFF in 10-11 L cases like Fractal Terra or H2O with 4070Ti or 4080 have better performance and have money left to get a decent Legion for portable gaming
You did not talk about battery power and how long it lasts! i use Legion 5 and its just 2/3hours and won't mind upgrading to something with more power!
Really wish that these high end “gaming” laptops just ship without a trackpad entirely. Who in their right mind would use this as a “productivity tool” on the go, these devices are designed to be used with a mouse, if you absolutely had to quickly click something add a touch screen. I’ve never used a touchpad with a laptop over the years, unless you’re literally in a basement or crawlspace installing network gear or servers (and if u do that on the regular u can use a none gaming laptop for this). Having the full chassis for the keyboard makes so much more sense, both how it looks and comfort level. Whenever i have to opt for a laptop as my daily driver i have it in a stand with a dock plugged in for my peripherals so its not an awkward af typing experience.
Gaming laptops are a waste of money. Unless you literally live on the road all the time and must be a PC gamer, it is a waste of money. Double the money for half the performance. A laptop 4090 is just a desktop 4080. You are paying $4500 for a 4080, a nerfed CPU whatever it is, a crappy tiny monitor that is unergonomic to use, a keyboard that is worse than almost all budget keyboards on the market, all in an unrepairable package that will become a paper weight when something breaks. Just buy a desktop gaming PC desktop(far better performance) and a cheap laptop to use as a word processor) for the on the go, or a Mac mini and a portable monitor.
The next version just needs the 240Hz Oled screen that razer has, and a haptic trackpad....maybe slide the keyboard up half an inch too. It's sooooo close to being perfect.
I’m wanting to by this as my gaming setup driver and daily laptop. I’ve spent years with a MacBook Pro and then my own PC build, but after seeing the performance and features… I feel like I can toss my MacBook and pc and get this with a thunderbolt 4 dock. Should still handle my 3 monitors and gaming/capturing from my console without a hiccup. I love my Mac and my pc but this laptop is just too damn cool
I love the new tech coming out with laptops. However I am always discouraged on splurging that much money on a laptop for two reasons - Hardware is barely interchangeable for the sake of upgrades and laptops go dated really quickly. Imagine spending that amount of money on a desktop, that is an absolute beast. I would rather have a beast of a desktop for all powerful function and a mid range laptop for work and other mundane tasks.
1:0010:27 Dave2D did an awesome video on this video especially for the water cooling. Here's the video title "When a Laptop Tries TOO Hard" Partial rough transcript "But then, I realized I can physically disable the liquid cooling. I can unplug that pump, and it will no longer circulate the liquid around. So now, I should be able to test to see if it's actually doing anything. I unplugged it, and the laptop performed almost the exact same way. The only difference that I could spot is..." Go watch the video 😂
Dave2D literally dropped a video disconnecting the tiny water pump power to see if it has any effect on the temp, and you are just casually guessing it's doing the heavy lifting and not the 3 fan setup...
Bought slim 7 2023 and within one month got a black screen issue. Needed to take it apart about 4 times to fix it. My 7 year old hp pavillion with i5-7200u never failed to turn on. Legion laptops look good but can't say reliable.
Incredible and good qualiti but cant it reach the cooling Quality like XMG Neo 17 with a Oasis? I mean is it possible to use the full 175 Watt Boost constantly?
It's not a laptop, it's a transportable desktop though. And that sucks by itself, if I plan to move I use an ultrathin and ultralight 13.3". If I plan to stay I use a 34" UW monitor.
Definitely sound portable to me, coming from a massive 3.4kg 17" HP Omen (make it 4.5kg with the charger) Considering that it packs a 4090 it's quite impressive!
It make my wallet look pathetic
Real 😂
@@Dr_Bullones Lmao
I really love what these manufacturers are doing with the tech.... just wish it didn't cost as much as a used car...
then buy used. Technology are not simple dead giveaways
Then don’t buy new, windows machines can be bought used/refurbished now since the tech is good enough to last for years.
It's cheaper to build a pc
don't worry, used cars will go up in price :)
@@slimcognito. The problem is that argument doesnt work here. People in the market for high end laptops like this need the portability. Even the most compact of itx builds doesnt compete with the utility provided here. I ordered one solely because of how often I travel and how convenient it would be. Seems much better than my current thinkpad!
Dang. Those temps at that power level, boost freq and noise level is amazing. Incredible accomplishment.
The Lenovo 9i is one of the most unique looking computer's I've seen in a while, Kudos to the Design Team!
i use it to play solitaire
8K 500FPS HDR RTX DLSS solitaire
@@mikelisteral7863iibkinioo o nioijiib to h
@@mikelisteral7863that’s some damn good looking solitaire
most unique looking laptop is acer predator x21
Asus Rog Zephyrus Duo 16!
I bought a Legion Pro 5i 16IRX8 in May 2023 for 1699USD. 13900HX, 32GB, 4070, 240HZ 16" IPS for $1699. Currently on sale for 1599USD. Pretty good laptop for work and games.
Can you please AAA games on it? how many hours straight?
That cpu is a monster. Great buy
@@TheDataArchitect I only play world of tanks and cityes: skylines. What AAA games do you have in mind?
call of duty modern warfare 3@@What_Other_Hobbies
@shahzadshahzad5610 I have the same spec'd laptop, and it can run AAA just fine
Hogwarts Legacy on High preset Medium RT with DLSS Quality gets ~100fps
Imagine traveling with this to the airport and you see security throw this around as it goes through the X-ray 💀💀
This laptop costs almost 6000$ in Norway.
I could build an RTX 4090 desktop with a good X670E motherboard with a top of the line Ryzen cpu and buy a Odyssey Neo G8 4k 240hz mini led monitor.
And I would still have 1000 bucks left to spend on other things.
It is a very impressive laptop that's for sure but it is extremely overpriced here.
Same here in UK.
yea you could buy a really good handheld pc for that price.
But can you carry it in your bag?
The point of laptops is portability. That’s what you’re paying for.
@@slecuyer21but 4 years ago a laptop of this equivalence would be half the price
I was able to get the Legion 9i Gen 8 priced out with Windows 11 Pro, the 4090, and 64GB of DDR5 at $3345 with multiple discounts. Damn! And the display is insane and the reason why I chose the 9i over the 7i. The 7i doesn't have an option for the miniLED display. So tempted to pull the trigger on this beast! I already have the Asus Scar 16 with 4080 and only 32GB DDR5, but it has the 2560 x 1600 miniLED HDR1000 display @ 240Hz. It's a great gaming laptop and I only paid $2800 for it, so may give it to my son if I get the 9i. Decisions decisions!
I have the 9i, the screen is fantastic and build quality is great. Turn off Nahemic and the speakers are pretty good too. The Spectrum software for the lighting is buggy but Legion Toolkit completely fixes it. If you can make the price right with discounts and coupons, go for it. Just beware of the weird keyboard position and small trackpad.
Just picked up the 4090 config for $2500 on ebay! Brand spankin' new!
@@mrmuffins4224can you give the spec I’m kind of tempting
As impressive as this is, I see how Lenovo is not allowing any comparisons benchmark wise to the Legion 7i Pro with the same GPU. I imagine it's probably within a couple of percentage points and this laptop is $1000+ more.
yeap, diminishing return it is! But you got carbon fiber tho 😂😂
the cooling system is a gimmick.
its negligeable. really.
The same argument can be made for the Razer Blade and Alienware laptops. There are cheap Acer gaming laptops that are more powerful than the legion 7i but I still bought a legion 9i because it looks awesome, is built better and has just a few more features.
@@Nbdy18dawg what are you yapping about
My last laptop was Lenovo and I remember the speakers were very good, loud and clear with pretty decent bass.
just use EQ and add virtual surround and lower treble and increase bass
I like the gestures of including 2 power bricks, with one being more compact. My main laptop has been a legion i7 y740 for years but i have been reluctant to bring it to classes or anywhere in fact that i dont absolutely need it for because of the power brick. And i could never bring myself to pay out nearly $200 for the slimmer charger.
think of the enviroment impact if most people end up not using 1 or the other...
Subbed because THAT was a Master Class in how to review a laptop.
Lenovo has been killing it the past couple years. My wife's laptop with a 3050 and ryzen 5 runs things buttery smooth and I have no idea how. I thought it was under spec for a lot of things I tried on it but somehow things run amazing.
its just that must things people do with ther laptops (including gaming) arent that demanding as we think of it. Yeah there much better video cards/cpu´s but playing most games on normal grapics will do with a lot of "weaker" hardware
ps 3050 laptop actually quite nice not great but will do as you experienced
gaming laptops are kinda eww. would rather buy a pimped out desktop, huge monitor, and a steam deck.
As a long time legion user, these are excitingggg. I just hope they're easier to open LMAOO
Fr I broke lile 4 cards tryna open my Legion 7 to clean it. That mf is strong af
What is your opinion on the Lenovo LOQ series as it is kind of in the middle between ideapad series and legion series, coz in my country, legion is wayy overpriced.
My 7i Pro wasn't too hard to open, I fitted a second SSD. We'll see how this 9i Pro fares.
@@abcdefgh6121no. The LOQ series replaces the Ideapad Gaming series.
you really gonna buy that thing?
i like how lenovo started this design with y530 model and keeps this design alive and just tweaks it. looks premium
Damn !! 75°C on Boost mode with a RTX 4090 at 171W ? That's mighty impressive.
Also, on a side note, can you showcase gaming performance on Baldur's gate 3 act III ? That wouldn't be representative of the pc performance, but i still want to see what laptop can run fine on that act...
Not impressive using Intel ...
Not the same as a desktop 4090 tho, just nomenclatures, this might perform like a 3070 or less.
@@Tressie13laptop 4090 performs on par with desktop 3090ti lmao
@Tressie13 no tf is doesn't it 5 % better than a 3090 ti
@@Angelowalker. 5% is on par
bro really said "it's better than my macbook pro" like I'd be suprised or something
It’s only better than a MacBook Pro if you want a gaming laptop. For general purpose use and content creation, I prefer my MacBook Pro because it’s silent and remains fast even on battery and the battery life is very long. I have the Legion as well and it cannot compare in terms of performance on battery and overall battery life. Sure, it’s faster when plugged in and when gaming.
MacBook Pro sets the gold standard in laptop design, build quality, speaker and webcam fidelity, trackpad comfort, screen crispness and battery life. As a package, it’s hard to beat.
@little_fluffy_clouds my gaming laptop battery when unplugged still lasts a few hours straight, it's quiet, and everything can still run 144fps+, and costed less than a MacBook cuz I got a sale on it
@@TheRedc0met I am aware of the differences, since I own two Legions (7i and 14 Slim OLED, and I will sell the 7i to get a 9i as soon as they start using the latest gen processors) and two MacBooks currently (14" Pro and 13" Air M2). I also have a ThinkPad P1 gen6, which is Lenovo's top-of-the-range 16" mobile workstation laptop. I've been collecting ThinkPads since IBM introduced them in 1990 and still have a vintage 760XL in perfect working condition.
Apple Silicon Macs also have discrete GPUs, just not made by NVIDIA, Intel or AMD, it's Apple's own design. It's perfectly capable of running any game or productivity task, as well as ray-tracing in the recent models. There's just not enough support from big name gaming developers for making/porting AAA games for the Mac.
For AI and ML work, MBP is actually a good choice since the GPU has access to all of the memory in the machine at full speed, whereas the 4090 is limited to 24 GB of VRAM.
Magnesium vs. aluminium isn't that important for me since the build quality in a MacBook is immaculate, it's not like aircraft-grade aluminium isn't a premium material for laptop chassis.
Each has strengths and weaknesses. If you just want to play the latest PC games, Legion is the better choice. For everything else, as a general purpose portable workhorse, MacBook Air or Pro are hard to beat.
I ended up ordering one September 3rd before reviews were live and am not disappointed. Anyone looking to get this I would recommend the 64GB option for more future proofing as the memory is underneath the motherboard, also double sided SSD will fit in both slots. I am using two Western Digital SN850X 4TB without issue. My machine came with the WiFi 7 card from MediaTek the website says it will be an Intel WiFi 6E when you buy it.
Congrats! Which graphics card did you go with? The 4080 or 4090?
@@411sponge72 4090 of course :) when you are paying this much for a machine no sense in going second best. Enjoy your purchase
Also got the Wi-Fi 7 card on mine. Thanks for the info re double sided SSDs.
Did yours come with the new lac3 ai chip?
Also, what region are you guys in?
I have the Legion Pro 7i and I love the ceramic keys on mine! They look nice, stay cooler to the touch and just feel nice.
@ZOMBIE_WORLD Go with the 7i pro. Got one two weeks ago. Spectacular laptop. Don't see the need for water cooling especially when there's nothing to really keep the water cool in the first place. The 7i pro has great thermals, bright and vibrant screen and nice heft.
@ZOMBIE_WORLD Are your drivers updated? Is it on dgpu and performance mode? When I checked for system updates in vantage and windows I had many to deal with. 30+ at least after first turning on the laptop. Ive been playing Cyberpunk with Ray tracing on ultra with really good performance. Reach out to Lenovo if anything. Tech support will be able to walk you through stuff.
I personally love the useless water cooling loop. Like it just moves water around but the copper tubing isn't connected to any fins or something to actually cool the water, it just goes round and round with nothing to do the cooling part of the water cooling.
Man, I have a Legion Y740 with a 2080 Max-Q and it’s still kicking butt 3 years later. Obviously I ain’t playing nothing at 4K but I can still play most games at med/high settings off my 1440p monitor at about 80 fps. I do have a very high end desk top but I don’t planning on getting another gaming laptop for a long time. With all that being said, this machine looks amazing!
Same but with 2070 max Q XD
I almost bought this, but in the end went with a ThinkPad P1 gen 6 with a 16" OLED screen, the 13900H CPU and the RTX 4090 GPU. Portability is much more important to me in a laptop.
4090 is useless in that machine online 115 watts
@@Usernotknown21 he needs portability, which may be counterintuitive, but even at 115W, it still outperformed 4070 even if you crank to the maximum 140W
Indeed, the type of work I do benefits from having as many CUDA cores as possible for parallelism, rather than higher clock speed.
I have a separate Legion 7i Pro 4080 laptop which can run its GPU at max wattage, but it’s a significantly thicker and heavier machine.
TGP of 80w was why I stopped looking at the P1. I bet an asus g14 will run rings around the p1.
@@sflxn naturally, this is highly subjective, but for me, it really didn’t. I’ve sold my ASUS to upgrade to the P1. There’s much more to a laptop than its list of specs. ASUS had a worse keyboard, trackpad,
screen and customer support, but it was also cheaper, so not a like for like comparison. I just wanted a bigger screen without adding too much weight.
For me, P1 is the best thin and light mobile workstation out there if you want the ultimate mix of quality and portability, not if you just want highest possible performance. Lenovo’s Legion series are a better fit purely for performance, as long as you don’t mind something thicker and heavier (so you’re trading off portability for performance).
The Legion is a gaming-first machine with balls-out performance where you can also run productivity apps. The P1 is a mobile workstation where ergonomics, reliability and comfort comes first, so it has conservative tuning to tame fan noise and chassis temps. It can also happen to run games rather well on the side, but it’s not its primary purpose in life.
To say the P1 is useless because it doesn’t run its GPU at a zillion watts is like saying a Rolls-Royce is useless because it can’t go at 200 mph. It was never designed to do that. It’s designed for users with different priorities and different preferences.
I’m not hating on ASUS by the way, G14 was a really nice machine for the price and I have an ASUS X670E Extreme motherboard in my desktop PC with an ASUS Harpe mouse. It’s good to have options from different brands. It’s just that when it comes to Windows/Linux laptops, I prefer ThinkPads over anything else and I’m excited to finally have a thin and light ThinkPad which can run anything I throw at it at a good level of performance without sounding like a jet engine. The battery life still sucks, but that’s inevitable with any Intel laptop with comparable specs.
very impressive laptop, but my only concern is in a long term how reliable that water pump is, and how hard it would be to find replacement
The Ram is accessible you just have to partially remove the motherboard, did it the other day and upgraded to 64GB. Takes a bit with all the ribbon cables, but totally doable.
$4499 is hella insane, to be honest!!! I know it's a laptop and with those components, it's going to be real fast but with that kind of money, you can actually build a 4090 desktop! To be honest I get the point! I am a big performance hoarder and I really think this kind of laptop is really useful for some people but laptops need to be good enough so you can do your tasks on the move but that's kinda it! thermals, battery usage, all the shit you have to carry for it just to plug it in and have the full performance it's going to make it ridiculous in the end!
for real. for that much you could buy a maxed out speced PC and A rogally or lenovo legion go or steam deck or switch, your handheld of choice really
You can just pick it up and take it anywhere tho 😅
@@ultimatebreak827have fun playing 4K games at a coffee shop with your 45 pound desktop pc.
you didn't get my point!@@EyeOfTheTiger777 I get that laptops are portable! I also have a laptop due to its portability! but I'm saying that at this price this thing is not what it should be! considering new prices on the market right now (in the UK for example) you can get a full speck computer (4090/64gbram/7959x) for a little over 3k and you still have something to get a decent laptop for "portability" I, for example, went out and got myself an Asus ROG Flow x13 and I can do whatever i would like to do on it without a problem... I get that this laptop will be much more powerful than a 1.5/2k laptop but sincerely when you get to this point these laptops are really not that portable anyway... all that weight and added stuff to the bag (plus you will need it to be plugged in to have that kind of performances) it's just reeeaaallyyy not worth it! not at that price!
so I get that you can pick it up and go anywhere but is it worth it? at that price? and for how many people will it be?
and then the manufacturers will be well we've offered them the most powerful laptops but they just didn't buy them! they must not want powerful portability... and they go and give you crap for more money...
and you can really see in the comments that people are really not that attracted to the product because of its price!
@@viezurelepanykt Its almost like these companies are hinting at modern LAN parties lol. Hey bro bring your laptop over so we can COD/CS party!
I’m glad they offer a smaller charger. Having to carry around a freaking brick to charge was my biggest complaint with the previous versions.
Writing this on my new M16 Zephyrus (4080 version). Loving this machine so far. Great speakers, great screen, great customizability, great design, only wish these came with AMD CPUs so battery life could be better. Anything over 3k for a laptop would be too much for me so this is fine for now.
Thinking about this variant right now (Legion i9 4090 vs M16 4090) and it gives me headache what is better xD
@@ratus the M16 is really nice. The sd card is uhs II, the ram is fully upgradable, space for extra SSD. It's a great machine. Gorgeous display, great speakers. The 4080 is sufficient for me for everything and sorta futureproof compared to the 4060/4070 versions. I haven't had any manufacturer defect which can happen with laptops and also almost zero light bleed.
I'm looking to get this laptop for traveling and gaming. Do you think the screen and 4080 are worth it? I was looking at the 4070, but I really want the better screen and obviously a 4080 is better, but costs like $700 more.
@@pludini5266 yeah I know what you mean. I had that dilema as well. The 4090 version is too over priced but at 2699 for the 4080 with 1TB storage and the miniled screen, it's not bad. Plus I went for the 4080 because of the 12gb vram so in later years I still have some buffer. Plus that miniled screen is great and so bright. Def notice the haloing on dark backgrounds when the screen is in multi zone config but it's an easy fix by changing to single zone. The laptop is fast and very well built. I'd definitely recommend it. If you feel the 4070 is enough and you want to save 700, then yeah go for the lower spec. Just a great laptop. Only gripe is AMD CPUs would have so much better impact on battery.
@@theompman yea true it’s a shame there’s no amd option
Legion Pro 7i with RTX 4080 🔥
Idk why i keep watching these lol, 4k dollar is more than i get in 3 years of work. Yeah third country student life, no way my current pc cant even run youtube properly. Hope for me guys, so that i can get a decent job to afford a laptop 1/8 of the price. I cant have a desk pc, cuz i dont have a fixed home
Awesome review. Thanks for adding the detail on the palm rest. I wish the palm rest was bit bigger to place my palm.
Great showcase for this laptop! and thank you for including real numbers on different games and applications, does help a lot. A beast! cheers!
Looks great! I do wonder how the liquid cooling will perform over time - hopefully well!
Lenovo is seriously picking up their game with their recent releases. Man this laptop is cool
3 fans so it must cool bro
Half price in 3 years
@@Troonielicious
Like most non Apple laptop
cool now talk about price
It’s nice… but liquid cooling? How long will that last? 2-3 years? What happens then when it worn out?
That’s why i still haven’t buy this laptop,i am worried about this liquid cooling,maybe i get the i7 pro instead can’t decide yet
I bought this laptop. In the intro to your video the Left side RGB LEDs are stuck on a random color. In your video it looks like Red. I have stuck red or completely off LEDs. I talked to support, and they are now tracking the issue. Hopefully there is a bios update, after talking to them I strongly think it's the spectrum software. If anyone else is having this issue, please let Lenovo know so we can get this situation fixed.
Edit: I saw in the video that you mentioned this. 100% have the exact same issue that you mentioned.
The problem also exists on my computer. German Lenovo Legion i9 with 4090. I also spoke to support. The rest of the notebook is 1A. Love it. Update - there is a workaround. RGB is OK if Legion Vintage Software is minimized and the RGB profiles are changed using Short tasks Fn+Spacebar. Only change and save your profile if necessary using Legion Vintage. Then minimize the program and use the short task to switch through the RGB profiles.
Having the exact same issue I thought I was going crazy
Are you still having these issue's?
@@d0Nova0b yes I am I check daily for a update through legion and have yet to see anything.
How well do you think this layout would work if they went southpaw with the keyboard?
How's that liquid cooling system helping? It's just a small loop and when the water will get hot, that hot water will just run through the loop again and again. No radiator + fan to cool the water.
Why do I keep watching videos on 5000$ computers, I will never be able to afford one
So here is the question...what is a better option: 64 Gb of Ram or 32Gb of the faster ram (both are options for the 4090 config).
I like your videos. The way you explain is brief and informative.
If the pump is not user replaceable then it’s a scary prospect. Also, how does that tiny volume of liquid cool on a longer run?
The laptop IS pretty cool. But I have so many questions about it in the long run.
No because they actually have excellent warranties. They have next day at your home repair services
@@Usernotknown21Do note it's region dependent though. I paid for premium warranty, and got shafted _hard_ as the best Lenovo could offer me was repair times of over 30 days.
It won't unless you are able to run a freon style chiller system, (not even sure this exists) internally there is no way it is possible for this laptop to displace the heat generated by the components. Temps are probably fine for an hour after that you would probably burn your fingers.
Spend 3.5k and build a badass gaming rig then spend another 1k for a lower pc and just stream your desktop to the laptop and sidestep the temp issue.
Cool is the keyboard attached with plastic rivets, thereby making it impossible to replace?
at first I was rushing to say "there no way this laptop would not have a severe cooling issues" but after I saw the new liquid cooling technology, there is a chance this might work well!!
The liquid cooling doesn't do anything to help.
@@YISTECHnoise
@@YISTECHdude, it reduce noise significantly
it aint do no shit.
@@whitegoose-k4git done did do some shit
0:52 Huge missed oppurtunity. You should've said "But there's more to the 9 than meets the i".
I'd absolutely love a machine like this for Blender and video editing. I can't afford it though which sucks. Maybe in like five years when they're not that expensive anymore lol
then there will be a much high end gpu in maket
in 5 years you will get the same performance from budget rtx 6060
Love your videos and your channel . Great reviews as always !! FYI if you will be reviewing the updated version with the 14000HX or revisit the gen 8 legion 9i there has been an update on the legion AI , now after hitting balanced and check boxing the AI self tuning box , the CPU is hitting 95 to 120 wright off without going into manual mode . Also temps have been reduced don’t know what exactly they did but my temps went down by 9 degrees . Just a heads up !
Dave2D debunked this laptops watercooling.
Would love to see this laptop on a Llano cooling pad. I wonder if the built-in liquid cooling plus the Llano would be a good combination.
Oh wow, the cooling is truly much better than the 7i
My 7i overheats with the i7 13700HX and 4060. I hope the cooling tech will trickle down to the 7 series at some point
Edit: it's 5i Pro, I mixed it up sorry. Lack of sleep
It overheats even in balanced mode?
@@NGT4LIFE it will overheat while booting into windows
there is no 13700hx 4060 sku's i guess your confusing the 5i pro with the pro 7i, haven't seen anyone with cooling issues with an legion pro 7..
a 7i doesnt ship with 4060, u mean a 5i? and thats just ur unit issue. many people in Legion series discord dont have this issue at all
bro's confused but he got the spirit!@@melmito
I thought it was all covered with fingerprints in the video cover🤣
Neither. My lenovo legion 5 died after a year and a half. I used to be a big lenovo fan but not now. Unacceptable. Surfed the net and I find I am not alone. Look up issues for lenovo buyers beware. Also see what they are saying about customer service.
I have three Legions with zero issues: this 9i with 4090, a 7i with 4080 and a 14s OLED with 4060. All going strong
@@little_fluffy_clouds Lucky you. I got a lemon. I had a lenovo before and was very satisfied. I just took it to the shop and will find out if they can fix it or not. In the meantime I picked up and ASUS and am happy with that so far.
0:28 Kudos to the editor for mentioning the price immediately, I'll be leaving now😂
Your passion for the tech world really shines through in this video. I appreciate the attention to details and the insights that often go unnoticed. I hope to convey the same passion in my videos
The price tag made me Pathetic 💀💀
That is damn impressive performance and internal tech. But holy shit, that is EXPENSIVE. Almost impractically expensive imo...
Like, there's the top tier of gaming laptops in terms of price, and then there's this thing. But if they're doing unique, hand-made exteriors, I guess they don't expect to sell that many anyways...
your creativity and passion shine through every project!
I absolutely love this laptop. Lenovo has been absolutely doing everything right in the past few years. They're knocking it out of the ballpark. I know Lenovo was struggling for a few years. But it seems like lately they're coming out with some really awesome stuff awesome stuff. The legion go also looks amazing
Anyone can make a great laptop for 4 grand. Did you expect mediocrity in that price range?
7:06 Honestly maybe I doubt something like sound dampening would be something people would do on laptop keyboard unless they made a way to easily to take out the keyboard from the top but hey maybe if there was a laptop that could do that then still probably not unless the laptop is cheap cause laptop keyboards just don't sound hollow usually. I could see people hand lubing everything if they wanted to go that far.
Can someone please explain, why this laptop is so much more expensive in europe? Base price in the US is 3800 dollars, in europe it's 4600€. How can this be? Euros are worth more than dollars, so it should be more like 3600€ over here. The 4090 model is 5500€ dude😂
Taxes
They're exactly the same price, the US v4090 costs like $4400, add 20%VAT then convert to €
5500 euros 0_0 even worse than I thought .. Asus rog strix or legion 7 seems to be our only budget choice
20+ % VAT in most Eu countries
Top one (4090 ,dual nvme,32 GB 5600 ddr5) is 6600 EUR🤔😂🤣 1000 over the One specced with a single ssd (but twice the ram)
0:53 u missing the opportunity to say there's more to the 9i than what meets the i
Almost had a heart attack when he said the price
I like how every tech youtuber is like look at this new innovation! knowing barely any of the viewers will be able to afford one
As a current Legion 7 2021 user, this Legion 9 seems to be stepping in an interesting direction for the flagship Legion lineup, but not quite there yet.
While I appreciate the effort making the top lid unique, it needs to be cleaner. This design is not edgy enough to compete with MSI, or classy enough to compete with the Blade, and the Legion audience tends to prefer a more lowkey look. Maybe this design can be reserved for special editions.
Port placement also seems weird, both the sides and even the back, like they're not evenly spaced out, which is definitely an eye sore for OCD people like me.
The internal water-cooling system looks cool, but I have doubts when this is put into long term usage. Lenovo could even consider implementing an additional removable cooler like those XMGs.
Soldered RAMs is another turn-off for me. Removability of parts has always been part of Lenovo laptops, maybe this a temporary solution for that internal cooling, but hopefully they'll figure out another way without soldering the RAMs in later versions.
Perhaps when RTX5000 series arrive, I'll jump on one of these Legion 9s if they've made these improvements.
I agree, but the RAM isn't soldered; it's just flipped on the other side of the motherboard.
agree with pretty much everything except for the design, i think it looks absolutely cool and way better than msi titan, but such things are subjective.. all i can do is look at these luxury laptops, hyper expensive toys
thanks for brightening my day with your upbeat video!
For anyone cross shopping with the Razer Blade 16, Lenovo suddenly made is a much easier choice. Legion is the no-brainer here
Depends if the 500€ the Blade 16 is cheaper (at least here in germany) with the same specs is nothing to you. Then its a no brainer yes.
Yeah! It kinda looks like it. Been comparing it with the Razer Blade16 like forever. Only thing I don't like about it is the trackpad. Not great. Razer's is way better here but the performance on the Legion is better.
@TheDude50447 Tests are coming out. Same specs but Legion is running higher performance numbers, with cooler temperatures, and significantly less fan noise compared to the Blade 16. Lenovo has a winner here
Different people value different things. As a former legion 7i and now a razer blade 16 owner I can assure you both brands are great in their own way, but focus on different things. You normally don't buy razer if you want absolute best performance or the best price. You do it if you value a certain look.
Lenovo on the other hand offers a much better cooling solution and normally a better price to perfomance value (questionable with current legion 9 prices though...)
My point: I would not change my blade 16 for a legion 9, even though it certainly performs much better. I don't want the 'gamer look' of a legion. Simple as that.
@@UrdnotAkongo Yeah. Obviously Im purely talking about the pricing. Imo price to performance is still horrible for both. The Asus Scar 18 with 4080 and 13980hx was recently on sale here for 3000€. For the same specs the blade 16 is 1000 and the legion 9 1400€ more expensive.
i have been looking at this laptop for a while now and i think your review has made my mind up about the purchase. I currently run a Lenovo P1 but there are some things left to desire from that deck, though its supposed to be my work computer. I appreciate your time and your review.... keep up with the good content.
I have the P1 gen6 with a 4090 and it’s the perfect form factor and lightweight, but it means it has to power limit the GPU and the fans get noisy even in quiet mode. The 9i is bigger and heavier but has the room for quietly cooling those components without power limiting them too severely. Highly recommended if price is no issue (then again, the P1 was $6K, so the 9i is a bargain in comparison)
man, this is extreme next level compared to last year's top of the line Legion 7i
what does he mean by "you can only replace the typewriter keys"
if you wanna go gaming....just go for pc
Are the fans user replaceable if they fail or are they riveted to the cooling assembly?
4000 dollars. I rather build a desktop.
Well , nobody cares
Right, you can build a SFF in 10-11 L cases like Fractal Terra or H2O with 4070Ti or 4080 have better performance and have money left to get a decent Legion for portable gaming
Exactly, money much better spent than blowing so much on a laptop
Such a dumb thing to say. Obviously this laptop is not for you. Try taking the desktop with you on the plane 🤦
for 4500usd. id buy a 3080 used laptop for 1500usd and get myself a few months of rent
You did not talk about battery power and how long it lasts! i use Legion 5 and its just 2/3hours and won't mind upgrading to something with more power!
5:23 "just feel cramped when moving windows around the desktop", uh mate, been like that since Laptops were invented.
Really wish that these high end “gaming” laptops just ship without a trackpad entirely. Who in their right mind would use this as a “productivity tool” on the go, these devices are designed to be used with a mouse, if you absolutely had to quickly click something add a touch screen. I’ve never used a touchpad with a laptop over the years, unless you’re literally in a basement or crawlspace installing network gear or servers (and if u do that on the regular u can use a none gaming laptop for this). Having the full chassis for the keyboard makes so much more sense, both how it looks and comfort level. Whenever i have to opt for a laptop as my daily driver i have it in a stand with a dock plugged in for my peripherals so its not an awkward af typing experience.
I already see how it will gonna suck dust from that bottom vents. But design is awesome.
When is it ever this 4500 laptop over a 1500 laptop and a 3000 proper pc, im genuinely curious about the use case
Gaming laptops are a waste of money. Unless you literally live on the road all the time and must be a PC gamer, it is a waste of money. Double the money for half the performance. A laptop 4090 is just a desktop 4080. You are paying $4500 for a 4080, a nerfed CPU whatever it is, a crappy tiny monitor that is unergonomic to use, a keyboard that is worse than almost all budget keyboards on the market, all in an unrepairable package that will become a paper weight when something breaks.
Just buy a desktop gaming PC desktop(far better performance) and a cheap laptop to use as a word processor) for the on the go, or a Mac mini and a portable monitor.
Best review ..keep the hard work
Thanks for the great video. Please reduce beat in the background music.
No Amazon link for this. Just the Lenovo main page link
The next version just needs the 240Hz Oled screen that razer has, and a haptic trackpad....maybe slide the keyboard up half an inch too. It's sooooo close to being perfect.
0:28 What in the actual fudge?!
I’m wanting to by this as my gaming setup driver and daily laptop. I’ve spent years with a MacBook Pro and then my own PC build, but after seeing the performance and features… I feel like I can toss my MacBook and pc and get this with a thunderbolt 4 dock. Should still handle my 3 monitors and gaming/capturing from my console without a hiccup. I love my Mac and my pc but this laptop is just too damn cool
I have zero desire to have a watercooled desktop, my desire to do with a laptop is even lower.
Wait, you don't normally use your thumbs for the touchpad? 😲
Bro, you've sold me on this. Thanks for the comprehensive review.
I love the new tech coming out with laptops. However I am always discouraged on splurging that much money on a laptop for two reasons - Hardware is barely interchangeable for the sake of upgrades and laptops go dated really quickly. Imagine spending that amount of money on a desktop, that is an absolute beast. I would rather have a beast of a desktop for all powerful function and a mid range laptop for work and other mundane tasks.
0:18 cool but what's the upgradability like? cause lenovo works actively against it. Lenovo's thinkpad line are the anti-ibm model
9:55 skipped to it aaaaand yeah no thank u.
1:00 10:27
Dave2D did an awesome video on this video especially for the water cooling.
Here's the video title "When a Laptop Tries TOO Hard"
Partial rough transcript
"But then, I realized I can physically disable the liquid cooling. I can unplug that pump, and it will no longer circulate the liquid around. So now, I should be able to test to see if it's actually doing anything. I unplugged it, and the laptop performed almost the exact same way. The only difference that I could spot is..." Go watch the video 😂
Wonder what happens when the water cooler fails
Dave2D literally dropped a video disconnecting the tiny water pump power to see if it has any effect on the temp, and you are just casually guessing it's doing the heavy lifting and not the 3 fan setup...
Bought slim 7 2023 and within one month got a black screen issue. Needed to take it apart about 4 times to fix it. My 7 year old hp pavillion with i5-7200u never failed to turn on. Legion laptops look good but can't say reliable.
Incredible and good qualiti but cant it reach the cooling Quality like XMG Neo 17 with a Oasis? I mean is it possible to use the full 175 Watt Boost constantly?
What do u think
Which is more beautiful to the eye looking
Is it the 9i or zenbook pro 14
I saw the nothing phone 2 in the thumbnail, are you enjoying it? I think it has the best phone software right now. Will you review it
Stay tuned
less than 1" thin basically means 100 celsius on cpu under load most of the time
Just curious, could you bring this liquid cooled laptop on a plane?
It's not a laptop, it's a transportable desktop though. And that sucks by itself, if I plan to move I use an ultrathin and ultralight 13.3". If I plan to stay I use a 34" UW monitor.
Definitely sound portable to me, coming from a massive 3.4kg 17" HP Omen (make it 4.5kg with the charger)
Considering that it packs a 4090 it's quite impressive!
bro is running a marathon with a laptop, of course you need a tiny sheet of metal as one
Really good webcam and microphone too
If they had classic Thinkpad style keyboard keys with the blue enter key and stuff!!! Omg that'd be awesome!