Cavalcade of Woes in the Obra Dinn - SovietWomble's Supercut

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  • "I'm not gonna put bonked in the report" - Brightest insurance agent in the East India Company.
    SovietWomble's recent playthrough of Return of the Obra Dinn edited into just under 2 hours.
    Note that I cut a lot of meaningless pondering mostly from the end parts, the final 30 minutes took around 3 hours in stream.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 365

  • @rwpexpert
    @rwpexpert Рік тому +1461

    Soviet's journey through Obra Dinn.
    "Unless we get a DNA test, can we 100% conclude the person people are calling Captain is the Captain?" to "Let's throw darts at the Chinese and see what sticks."

    • @MKVProcrastinator
      @MKVProcrastinator Рік тому +161

      In fairness, the Chinese sailors are notoriously difficult to identify. When you figure out what the game intends you to do instead of just guessing, you'll be shaking your head.

    • @rwpexpert
      @rwpexpert Рік тому +79

      @@MKVProcrastinator I know but I am more referring to how far the burden of proof he needed fell.

    • @Trimmbor
      @Trimmbor Рік тому +17

      @@MKVProcrastinator idk, I didn't guess the chinese until I actually found the clue myself in-game. I don't think it's that tough to find, especially if you use the bookmark system.

    • @jeremywerner9489
      @jeremywerner9489 Рік тому +73

      @@rwpexpert Once he got comfortable with the fact that the game would confirm whether his guesses were right, he started doing a lot more guesswork combined with deductive reasoning.
      Would've taken a lot longer without that mechanic.

    • @RobinHood3000
      @RobinHood3000 Рік тому +40

      "They called him Charlie, but there's only Charleses in the crew manifest...maybe it's a term of endearment?"

  • @sargedavid
    @sargedavid Рік тому +859

    "I thought it was a murder mystery where they killed each other over some sort of trinket." Well you're not wrong...

    • @unoriginal_5
      @unoriginal_5 Рік тому +43

      goddammit Nichols this is all his fault

  • @brendanmystery
    @brendanmystery Рік тому +800

    The Game: "Captain! Open The Door!"
    Soviet when guessing who the captain was: hmm... but we don't know that this guy was the captain.

    • @clumsygarage1578
      @clumsygarage1578 Рік тому +95

      yeah it literally says "evidence is rarely conclusive" and he still waited forever to confirm that the guy who opened the door after someone said "captain open the door" was the captain.

    • @CommisarHood
      @CommisarHood Рік тому +41

      To be fair Captain can mean two things there's the rank of Captain and the position of Captain. If you're in command of a ship you are it's Captain regardless of your rank because in this case Captain means "the guy in charge of the ship" So say all the command crew died and a low ranking Ensign was left in charge he'd technically be addressed as Captain despite his rank only being Ensign. So technically that guy could've have been an officer who took over when the Captain died hence why they included his wife to make sure it was clear who his was.

    • @faded_ink3545
      @faded_ink3545 Рік тому +49

      @@CommisarHood I highly doubt Womble knew that distinction (nor did I, cool fact).

    • @TheHeavyshadow
      @TheHeavyshadow Рік тому +27

      @@CommisarHood That, and I (and possibly Womble too) wouldn't have put it past the game to pull some twist like "This guy's the Captain at the end of the journey. But he's not who's listed as Captain on the manifest that was made when the ship first started because of mutiny-related shenanigans."

    • @aoli8142
      @aoli8142 Рік тому +9

      @@CommisarHood Sailors rarely, if ever, address their comrades by actual rank. Such that the Wikipedia article barely mentions actual ranks en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Navy_ranks,_rates,_and_uniforms_of_the_18th_and_19th_centuries

  • @Cruxin
    @Cruxin Рік тому +497

    god i forget how cool the fuckin kraken reveal is

    • @silverseth7
      @silverseth7 Рік тому +67

      That's where the demo ended, and hoo boy did that set the bar.

  • @joepickup7305
    @joepickup7305 Рік тому +506

    See the shell sparkling off in the ocean the whole game is such a neat extra touch. The mermaid really kept its end of the deal

    • @quasur57
      @quasur57 Рік тому +56

      I guess thats the 3rd mermaid that guided the ship home

    • @deqalb
      @deqalb Рік тому +54

      ​@@quasur57Took her 5 years to guide the ship home. Talk about dedication.

    • @kvm6
      @kvm6 Рік тому +2

      ​@@deqalbwhen it could've just used waves to do it.

    • @pretzelbomb6105
      @pretzelbomb6105 Місяць тому +5

      @@kvm6 Probably did. Could have followed the trade winds across the Atlantic and then let it drift up the Gulf Stream.

    • @kvm6
      @kvm6 Місяць тому +1

      @@pretzelbomb6105 while that is very likely what happened it shouldn't take years like it did for Obra Dinn to show up.

  • @OmnipotentNoodle
    @OmnipotentNoodle Рік тому +241

    This is super interesting:
    - The solution to Beng's and Dahl's fates (being killed by shoving their arm in the magic chest goop) can be validly marked as either "Burned" or "Poisoned". In my playthrough, I went with poisoned on a suspicion that was later confirmed when Dahl called it "quicksilver" i.e. mercury, or something that looks like it. Since there's this ambiguity whether it was flames or magic poison, they left it open to interpretation, or just allowed both options so its not too unfair.
    - Abigail can be validly marked as either "Crushed by falling rigging" or "Clubbed by a Beast" since she was killed by the rigging, but the beast was wielding it as a huge club.

    • @youarepu3
      @youarepu3 Рік тому +49

      That's not all, the quicksilver deaths can ALSO be marked as electrocution. For my playthrough, I actually marked one as burned and one as electrocuted and it counted

    • @anthonyhovens7488
      @anthonyhovens7488 Рік тому +46

      Anyone thrown overboard by the kraken can also validly be put down as drowned or devoured.

    • @rorystockley5969
      @rorystockley5969 11 місяців тому +32

      There's one guy getting shot by the cannon, and iirc you can either say the beast killed him or blame it on the gunner who lit the fuse as having 'shot' him

    • @anthonyhovens7488
      @anthonyhovens7488 11 місяців тому +41

      I love how Lucas Pope not only thought of these possibilities ss not to annoy the player, but spent two years of dev time on localization to make sure that it was still possible in every language in the game. Thats way harder than you think, not every language has the same syntaxes, word order, distinction between words, or even the same ability to simply swap out words. You cant just translate each word in the list. Like in English we have struck, clubbed, and crushed, German might have only one word for all of those that is context dependent. Or maybe English has suislide, but French has distinct words for by hanging, gun, and knife. These are not accurate examples, but they are representative of the challenges he had to solve to make it work in every language.

    • @The578unit
      @The578unit Місяць тому +7

      @@rorystockley5969 and if you blame the guy the poor man gets fined in the report

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch Рік тому +286

    I will always love the first death in this game. Having the small cutscene followed by the gunshot and you facing the captain.

    • @pedroscoponi4905
      @pedroscoponi4905 Рік тому +102

      The entire tutorial sequence is amazing. Starts with a literal bang, winds down to a somber moment of suicide and then SLAMS you over the head with an entire goddamn kraken. But yeah, that first one is _special._ "You bastards may take / exactly what I give you" is a perfect one-liner.

  • @Rotaretilbo
    @Rotaretilbo Рік тому +421

    To be fair to the Captain, the events of the Bargain are sort of asynchronous with the other chapters. Specifically, the Captain's Steward dies sometime between Unholy Captives and the Doom, the Captain kills two mermaids during the Doom, and the 3rd Mate dies either during or just before the Escape.
    The implication is that, after seeing two mermaids executed, the last one called off the kraken, and the Captain then threw the shells he'd found overboard, ordered the surviving mermaid be freed, and organized for the remaining passengers and stewards to escape on the launch, further supported by the Captain repeatedly yelling at the Russian Topman to let them go and drawing his pistol.

    • @quantumblur_3145
      @quantumblur_3145 Рік тому +60

      Bless him, he tried

    • @doopness785
      @doopness785 Рік тому +40

      Poor Paul he did everything right only to be killed moments before escaping.

    • @jordanfry5138
      @jordanfry5138 9 місяців тому +17

      Late, but the only thing he definitely did do was dump the shells, and it's implied he did that before the Bargain, since his steward comments that he didn't get rid of them all. He didn't get the surviving mermaid freed, that was the 3rd mate's dying instruction, and I don't think he arranged the passengers leaving, though he did yell at the topman not to stop them

    • @Rotaretilbo
      @Rotaretilbo 9 місяців тому +14

      @@jordanfry5138 Whose idea it was is somewhat ambiguous, but I think there's good evidence that both actions were ordered by Witterel.
      So first, any other officer making the call, either to free a captive or to give the last rowboat to the civilians, would be mutiny, and we see a bit later how Witterel responds to mutiny. One of these actions, the loading of the rowboat, was necessarily carried out in full view of Witterel without any pushback. At the very least, we can say with confidence that Witterel was aware of that action before it was carried out, and that, while it is possible that one of the other officers approached him and suggested this course of action, Witterel ultimately would have ordered it be done.
      This is further supported by the timeline. We know that the last few chapters of Bargain take place just before/during the first few chapters of Escape. In particular, Bargain 5 takes place just before Escape 1. Moss finds Evans down by the lazarette, and urges him to come up urgently, and we then see them loading the rowboat in Escape 2. We see Hoscut leaving his room in Escape 1, which indicates that he was probably getting some sleep while either Witterel or Perrott was the officer on duty. In Escape 2, we see that Witterel was on deck while Moss and the civilians were loading the rowboat; he would have necessarily seen them taking this action.
      It's also important to note that both Perrott and Moss are aware that Witterel threw the shells overboard, but Hoscut is explicitly not, and while it's unclear whether Davies knew, Wiater certainly didn't. That is, Perrott's knowledge of the fate of the shells seems to be unique, which implies that Witterel spoke with him on the matter. It's possible that Davies knew as well, whereas Hoscut had not yet been told because he was asleep at the time. This supports, but does not prove, that it was Witterel's idea to have Perrott free the remaining mermaid; it does at least heavily suggest that the two had a conversation on the subject, which ended with Witterel either giving Perrott such instructions or giving him permission to do with the mermaid as he saw fit.
      And when Perrott goes to free the mermaid and is subsequently spiked, he exclaims, "Stop! Wait! We're to set you free!" That phrasing, while not definitive, would normally be read as both Perrott and Moss being there on someone else's order. The only people with the authority to order Perrott to do anything are the captain and Hoscut, and as we see later at the start of Escape, Hoscut was asleep as this was going down. Given this phrasing, it strongly suggests that Witterel told Perrott to free the mermaid.
      Thus, between various things suggesting Witterel signed off on freeing the mermaid, and was literally watching two stewards load the rowboat ondeck, I feel relatively confident in reading these as things that Witterel ordered.

  • @RougeMephilesClone
    @RougeMephilesClone Рік тому +218

    Womble's accent and IRL knowledge combined with the descent at 19:40 merged to create a really great and immersive moment.

  • @dejEtack
    @dejEtack Рік тому +188

    Game: explicitly refers to a character by name
    Womble: Well we can't be sure that's him, can we?

    • @bondfall0072
      @bondfall0072 7 місяців тому +4

      Tbf, when you first start the game, you don't know what rules its going by. You don't know if the characters all have different costumes or if there's gonna be some identity theft schenanagans

  • @madeofmandrake1748
    @madeofmandrake1748 Рік тому +463

    Said it before, will say it again, if there was a movie on the Obra Dinn, my boys Billy Hoscut and Henry Brennan are the dynamic duo. They always seem to be where the action is.

    • @hem9483
      @hem9483 Рік тому +69

      i mean they are the two most prominent members of the little mutineering group that gets arranged (henry brennan being the one to actually aim at the bodyguard during the execution is good characterization of him, guy will perform immense violence)

    • @quantumblur_3145
      @quantumblur_3145 Рік тому +29

      I'm glad the story was told in an interactive form instead, love these dead weirdoes

    • @willmiles7978
      @willmiles7978 Рік тому +54

      Charles Miner the real badass, he's so hard to track down because where it's usually easy to see what someone's doing and work out their job, or they're the centre of the scene, he's just in the background doing everything all the time. His entry in the insurance report is the saddest as he gets fined for killing someone even though it was collateral for helping finish off a crab!

    • @Pikaton659
      @Pikaton659 Рік тому +17

      @@hem9483 Yeah, when I solved it, I actually didn't notice that Brennan was the exact one who shot the guy, I just guessed any of them would work and I just wanted to help Brennan's kill count get higher

    • @Broddiccus
      @Broddiccus Рік тому +50

      Can't forget my boy Omid Gul
      him being tossed overboard is so sadly anticlimactic for what a badass he is the whole ride. Sees eldritch deep sea crab cavalry and goes "i bet i can kill these with a scimitar"

  • @nadrewod999
    @nadrewod999 Рік тому +556

    Fun fact: there's actually an achievement for reporting the captain's death as "suicide" and everyone else's death as "killed by the captain" (easiest method is say that he Axed them all, since no one on the ship died from being Axed, so you won't have any correct answers lock in).
    Obviously, doing this blocks you from the True Ending, but if you've already beaten the game once, it's relatively simple to quickly run through the game again and reactivate all the death scenes.

    • @madeofmandrake1748
      @madeofmandrake1748 Рік тому +123

      I didn't do get the achivement for putting in axed, I put that he ate everyone XD

    • @willmiles7978
      @willmiles7978 Рік тому +218

      @@madeofmandrake1748 Same.
      Also the letter you get at the end is fantastic if you submit the book with no correct fates, it's mostly the same except that rather than being happy that you solved what happened for everyone, Dr Evans was so disappointed you fucked up so badly that he just fucking died.

    • @yetanother9127
      @yetanother9127 Рік тому +117

      Since captains in this era were considered responsible for the actions and safety of their crews, that's _technically_ an accurate assessment (though a very unhelpful one).

    • @AccordYeen
      @AccordYeen Рік тому +132

      @@yetanother9127 the description for the achievement in question is, in fact, "Loosely true, in the eyes of Company and Crown."

    • @melephs_cap
      @melephs_cap 9 місяців тому +9

      ​@@willmiles7978 that's not just for "no fates solved;" I got it when I submitted it about half-full if I remember correctly. It was very funny but also I was like "I did a lot of work already wdym he was so disappointed that he died?!"

  • @roodtoob
    @roodtoob Рік тому +870

    God, could you imagine a version of this game where you're in the middle of a death vision, and one of the sea-horrors turns their head to look STRAIGHT at you?
    Or something more subtle, like their eyes tracking you. They can't act against you, but they KNOW.

    • @nadrewod999
      @nadrewod999 Рік тому +80

      That happens more often than you might think in existential horror games, like those inspired by Lovecraft.

    • @sirtrax1586
      @sirtrax1586 Рік тому +72

      I know it‘s not a horror game and there are also no jumpscares or anything, but the game makes me feel eerie. Can‘t put a finger on it why tho

    • @drojf
      @drojf Рік тому +28

      There's a different game (not primarily horror, more a mystery game) which does something similar to this. To avoid spoilers, the game's name is "Gur Sbetbggra Pvgl" in ROT13.

    • @Cotac_Rastic
      @Cotac_Rastic Рік тому +21

      ​@@drojf Wtf did you just type

    • @doctorsnakeeater1997
      @doctorsnakeeater1997 Рік тому +36

      ​@@Cotac_Rastic Shhh, he's speaking the language of the gods.

  • @Gorfinhofin
    @Gorfinhofin Рік тому +316

    Is it just confirmation bias because we're only seeing the deaths, or is Henry Evans a terrible doctor? Almost every scene he's in he's like "Ahh, he's gonna be fine" and then the patient IMMEDIATELY dies.

    • @aimelle3
      @aimelle3 Рік тому +153

      The only time he does it is when he's talking directly to the patient or within earshot of them. Probably to reassure them and keep them calm while he works. When he's talking about the sick man who is passed out on the bed, he says he isn't sure if he'll live.

    • @synthetic240
      @synthetic240 Рік тому

      This was also a time when just about any serious medical procedure was 40% likely to kill you sooner or later. Germ theory wasn't a thing.

    • @mayz7753
      @mayz7753 Рік тому +101

      To be fair, the Helmsman took a whole ass spear to the leg during 'Murder' and lived long enough to die in the Kraken attack, so Evans must have at least a little at some point

    • @Murks33
      @Murks33 Рік тому +28

      @@mayz7753 I actually had the helmsman as killed by spear because of that, until I later realised he was one of the doom disappearances.

    • @Snowbird2701
      @Snowbird2701 Рік тому +20

      I find it interesting that Dr Evans doesn't react too badly when his mate (James Wallace) got his head pinched off by that crab rider

  • @Mahathemime89
    @Mahathemime89 Рік тому +144

    Knowing boat facts helps you immensely on this game... honestly its fun to watch Wombles surprise at the supernatural elements and the joy he gets when he deduces correctly

    • @anthonyhovens7488
      @anthonyhovens7488 Рік тому +17

      There is also a full glossary in the back of the journal to explain many common terms, like the difference between a topman and a seaman. I know Womble already knew these things, but it just goes to show how extra Lucas Pope went when making this masterpiece.

  • @doc_eh2747
    @doc_eh2747 11 місяців тому +45

    Something is truly impressive in managing to get syed as one of the first 3 fates.

  • @nadrewod999
    @nadrewod999 Рік тому +272

    20:10 "This is no cutter, it's armed to the fucking teeth!"
    So you're saying that it's an American cutter...

  • @fauxrowsdower7610
    @fauxrowsdower7610 Рік тому +72

    I love the way this game makes you think! I had a similar 49:38 moment of "wait this is stupid, I've been overthinking this" when I realized that I'd misidentified Maba because I didn't think to use his tattoos as a clue. I was literally driving to work when I was the thought "maybe I have his identity wrong because I didn't think about who would have tattoos like his in the late 1700s" popped into my head fully formed lmao

  • @stivenBermeo
    @stivenBermeo 3 місяці тому +27

    This felt like a mobile ad, I saw the premise of the game, saw him ignore clues, I bought the game and got 18-20 things right in 5 hours (I realized it’s 3am) , now I want some gameplay to sleep to

  • @madmanmortonyt4890
    @madmanmortonyt4890 Рік тому +137

    Soviet's revelation at 1:35:55 is pure gold. Return of the Obra Dinn is so good.

  • @IrishPsycho70
    @IrishPsycho70 7 місяців тому +41

    The game: "Make sure to go back through chapters and memories to try and figure out how each person died."
    Soviet: *wanders around clicking on random bodies for several hours*

  • @Ferret440
    @Ferret440 Рік тому +113

    Honestly driving me mad how he's second guessing himself in the tutorial section lol.
    This channel is a blessing btw, been devouring so many videos here, much love.

    • @quantumblur_3145
      @quantumblur_3145 Рік тому +4

      Soviet is a total Gifted and it shows

    • @slandracon3853
      @slandracon3853 Рік тому +8

      "but IS he the captain" was annoying, but fair. even tho he was told that clear answers are rare

    • @pedroscoponi4905
      @pedroscoponi4905 Рік тому +8

      @@slandracon3853 This is the thing that gets me, though. Any notion of strict scientific rigor should go out the window (or jump off the plank, in this case) the minute the game _explictly states_ "You will not have perfect information and will need to make guesses".

    • @melephs_cap
      @melephs_cap 9 місяців тому +1

      ​​​@@pedroscoponi4905 I wouldn't say "the minute." Tutorials in games like this don't always just flip a switch in your brain. It's just a bit of human variation that he takes time to think that way. It's also perfectly valid if a person just kinda skims over a line of the tutorial and forgets it after it leaves short-term memory; that kind of thing happens.

    • @obtusemooose
      @obtusemooose Місяць тому

      @@pedroscoponi4905 but why? im sure if he had to make a decision right then and there hed have done it, but he was correctly assuming he had time to go back and figure it out with more information

  • @nahnah390
    @nahnah390 Рік тому +140

    I think it's kind of incredible how easily he's able to identify accents.

    • @Wylde483
      @Wylde483 Рік тому +53

      But then "Verdammt, what language is that?"

    • @jco_sfm
      @jco_sfm Рік тому +17

      and his extensive knowledge of 1800s seafaring

    • @scout360pyroz
      @scout360pyroz Рік тому +18

      thats how the brits are.
      they will make fun of each other for the TOWN they came from.

  • @RottenBen
    @RottenBen Рік тому +135

    39:56 It was at this point that I was finally aware that I clearly can't predict what will happen in this game.

  • @madeofmandrake1748
    @madeofmandrake1748 Рік тому +562

    Also, I find it FASCINATING that the carpenter's are both from america at this time and the carpenter's mate is the white guy. That means he's working under (almost certainly) an escaped slave, on an english ship. There's definitely a really long and interesting story about those two that I'd love to learn but simply cannot because of course not.

    • @nadrewod999
      @nadrewod999 Рік тому +60

      ...there were both "freed slaves" and "free men" among the black populations of America at that time...

    • @madeofmandrake1748
      @madeofmandrake1748 Рік тому +119

      @@nadrewod999 Oh I'm sure there were. I'm just saying that even though the carpenter's mate wasn't racist and the Carpenter was a free man, it's still interesting because the world they live in wouldn't be as accepting. I suppose that could be why they're on an english ship, because on a ship everyone's equal under the captain, and an american one would have the odd bigot aboard.

    • @quantumblur_3145
      @quantumblur_3145 Рік тому +31

      ​@@madeofmandrake1748 bold of you to assume nobody was racist and no bigots were aboard the Obra Dinn

    • @Cotac_Rastic
      @Cotac_Rastic Рік тому

      ​@@madeofmandrake1748 Its a ship poulated by rooineks, i doubt there wouldn't be racism. America just has small man sydrome trying to be as snooty as their ancestors.

    • @arandomguy8771
      @arandomguy8771 Рік тому +76

      @@quantumblur_3145 While thats true the UK had banned slavery and took out a massive loan (not paid back till 2009) to free all slaves in the empire and the crew itself seemed very diverse (most likely because its the East India trading company) so to really be racist in a crew with what 11-12 different nationalities all on one ship would not be as likely as lets say a military's ship where the entire crew would be from their own county.
      (Its also a bad idea to make be a dick to the guy who could repair your stuff if it breaks)

  • @Coinsocks
    @Coinsocks Рік тому +71

    can we talk about how the first mate got fined 25 bucks for attempted mutiny. while the Captain had his entire estate seized for (successfully, man got a 3 killstreak give him his UAV) defending himself against said mutiny

    • @marcusc9931
      @marcusc9931 Рік тому +26

      That's because back then suicide was illegal.

    • @itspaddyd
      @itspaddyd 9 місяців тому

      There's no judgements beyond "killing bad" I think

    • @jordanfry5138
      @jordanfry5138 9 місяців тому +7

      I mean, the insurance claims are dumb (if you write that the guy who fired the cannon the kraken grabbed killed the two guys who got blown up, it accepts it and then fines his estate) but I'm really not crying over captain asshole losing his money after he murdered two captive mermaids and also had a bodyguard executed for a crime he didn't commit. Plus, dude's wife died and he presumably didn't have kids, so the money may have just gone to the crown anyway.

    • @wajmgirl
      @wajmgirl 8 місяців тому +13

      @@jordanfry5138murdered the mermaids that were actively causing the death of his crew and leading an execution because he was tricked. Did you not watch the video?

    • @jordanfry5138
      @jordanfry5138 8 місяців тому +6

      @@wajmgirl Dude, I played the game. The mermaids aren't innocent and the captain got tricked, sure, but the reality is that, dumb though keeping it was, the royalty had the shell under control. It was only the greed of the shitty mate that caused the disaster in the first place, and if the captain had used his brain rather than believing an officer he could presumably have seen the fact that the bodyguard got injured and therefore probably didn't surprise a guy and stab him in the gut. And anyway, if the captain doesn't keep the mermaids and the shells after the traitors come back, the storm never comes, because there's nothing to draw them. By keeping those even after the first disaster, he's fully responsible for the kraken's arrival

  • @Xenotric
    @Xenotric Рік тому +91

    Poor Martin, always gets missed because HOLY SHIT A KRAKEN!

    • @tear4442
      @tear4442 7 місяців тому +9

      Even Abigail sometimes gets missed because of the Kraken.. somehow

    • @shark899138
      @shark899138 5 місяців тому +9

      On my first run through the other day (Finished it before I even found this VoD) and I was WRACKING MY BRAIN ON HOW COULD THE BOOK SAY HE WAS EASY (I get that he at least had to be a mate but at the point I was at 3 of the 4 were still up in the air) took my about 6 hours in until after by chance marking him as Martin I went back to Abigail's Memory to confirm something else and FINALLY heard her call him Martin. I nearly slapped myself for missing that the first time.

  • @zeno1122
    @zeno1122 6 місяців тому +29

    I watched this with my Mom because she loves murder mysteries. She spent the video alternately being intrigued and yelling at Soviet for his terrible sleuthing skills.

    • @true.creatorJ
      @true.creatorJ Місяць тому +2

      excuse me, BOTH intrigued and yelling at THE sleuthing skills???

  • @imbetterthanyou6927
    @imbetterthanyou6927 Рік тому +32

    It makes sense that this merchant ship would be armed with a gun deck. This ship belongs to the East India Trading Company and the UK was then at war with France. These ships had to travel to India without an escort and so armed themselves and were known as “Indiamen” and “Merchantmen”

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop Рік тому +56

    I love how he keeps calling that one guy a boy toy just cos he's always with another crewmate.

  • @sitemoth
    @sitemoth Рік тому +120

    A reminder that every name and cause of death in this game can be determined with the evidence the game gives you. If you pay attention, you don't have to guess anything

    • @jamesgreen6106
      @jamesgreen6106 Рік тому +8

      How was I supposed to know all the Chinese Topmen were wearing different socks

    • @sitemoth
      @sitemoth Рік тому +53

      @@jamesgreen6106 Well by looking at their socks of course.
      Another small detail I find quite cool are the two women who escape. In the passenger list, one is called Ms and one Mrs, and only one can be seen wearing a wedding ring. That's how you figure out who's who...

    • @basedeltazero714
      @basedeltazero714 Рік тому +40

      ​@@sitemoth Unfortunately the stylization works against that kind of thing, it's hard to read those small details when everything is distorted.

    • @WyvernWolfe
      @WyvernWolfe Рік тому +6

      Unless you don't know culture significance and regionalisation of body tattoos

    • @weneedaladder8384
      @weneedaladder8384 Рік тому +7

      ​@@WyvernWolfe if you're referring to Maba, you can identify him by process of elimination once you have the rest of the topmen figured out.

  • @anthonyhovens7488
    @anthonyhovens7488 Рік тому +29

    One of my favourite parts of this game is how much effort Lucas Pope put into the localization. I mean seriously, he wanted the game to be playable in like 10 languages, and translation is not as simple as change the words in the menus for selecting fates to be the equivalent in another language. They have wildly different syntaxes, meanings of words, and sentence structures. He basically had to make the game in full in English, then send a finished version off to each localization team so they could accurately translate it and rework the menus and fate confirming to work for each language individually.
    Btw, Lucas Pope also made Papers Please which is also really really good. It's about being a border checkpoint officer in alternate cold war era world. Look up the trailer and you'll know if it's your thing. Glory to Arstotzka.

  • @Jezzared
    @Jezzared Рік тому +309

    I remember identifying the chinese topmen by their shoes and thinking "surely this isnt how you're supposed to do it".
    I cannot believe that was the actual solution.

    • @MasterVanoi
      @MasterVanoi Рік тому +32

      That honestly was my one negative of an otherwise great game, you're like putting people down for where they stand in a scene and what they say all of a sudden we're looking at number tags and shoes.

    • @Zeliek
      @Zeliek Рік тому +28

      I remember someone with a female avatar mentioning that she honed on that detail because of foot fetish...

    • @weneedaladder8384
      @weneedaladder8384 Рік тому +65

      ​@@MasterVanoi I kinda liked that. The way you solve the puzzles changes as the game goes on. Sometimes you hear someone say something in an unusual accent, sometimes they're in a bunk with a number on it. It makes sure you're not just doing the same thing over and over.

    • @MasterVanoi
      @MasterVanoi Рік тому +2

      @@weneedaladder8384 honestly wouldn't have had that much issue with it if it wasn't just all shoved at the end, like it was gently sprinkled throughout the game.

    • @thaynedye1292
      @thaynedye1292 Рік тому +20

      Honestly I felt really clever when I thought to try using their shoes. I usually have trouble with puzzle games but this one I had a blast with.

  • @jesustyronechrist2330
    @jesustyronechrist2330 Рік тому +97

    The amount of people playing who just bruteforce quessed the Chinese is actually hilarious.
    I should know. I did so too.

    • @gJonii
      @gJonii Рік тому +1

      Are there any ways to know them? There were plenty of low rank folk I thought game was just set to accept your first guess because there's just nothing else you can use.

    • @knocked_for_six
      @knocked_for_six Рік тому +12

      @@gJonii For the most part, you can deduce them via their shoes, as they're initially identified via hammock tags.

    • @vincentlelong3106
      @vincentlelong3106 11 місяців тому +14

      @@gJonii You can beat the game with 0 guessing, but it's usually very subtle (like their shoes or the wedding ring for the 2 women passengers)

    • @knyt0
      @knyt0 3 дні тому

      @@knocked_for_six when i played the game i noticed the numbers on the hammocks and thought "huh, numbers" and then never thought about them again lol, i didn't know they were useful

  • @Amalgam03
    @Amalgam03 Рік тому +31

    One thing I find very interesting is that there are multiple answers for vague deaths. For instance, Abigail was crushed by falling rigging, but clubbed by a terrible beast is also a valid deduction.

    • @Cassius40k
      @Cassius40k Рік тому +13

      Wolff the Gunner and seaman George Shirley can be marked as exploded or shot by a beast, but if instead you say they were shot with a cannon by Abraham Akbar who lit the fuse, then Akbar's estate gets fined instead of being awarded exceptional duties.

  • @AndrewWhise
    @AndrewWhise Рік тому +37

    I cant believe he got all that having never seen the numbers on the hammocks. That's like 10 dudes he made soo much harder to solve than they were supposed to be.

  • @superdot9513
    @superdot9513 Рік тому +75

    52:41 i very much appreciate the annotation about the steam notification, very rare youll find a video that actually clarifies these when they happen. thank you!

  • @Becca-bm8rt
    @Becca-bm8rt Рік тому +113

    I'm glad I'm not the only person who was thrown off by Alexander Booth's accent.
    Also I had the exact same reaction when I realised they put the Frenchman in horizontal stripes.

    • @reptiliannoizezz.413
      @reptiliannoizezz.413 Рік тому +1

      True!! I was certain he was American till I figured out his identity

    • @Amalgam03
      @Amalgam03 Рік тому +25

      I dunno why, but the fact that the Frenchman wasn’t declared identifiable in the game as soon as you see him in French maritime garb, but Maba is considered immediately identifiable by his tattoos kinda always strikes me as odd.

    • @basedeltazero714
      @basedeltazero714 Рік тому +6

      I first thought he was Russian, because they had (have?) a similar striped shirt.

    • @fauxrowsdower7610
      @fauxrowsdower7610 9 місяців тому +7

      @@Amalgam03 I mean I had no idea what 18th century French maritime garb looked like before interacting with the Obra Dinn fandom lol

    • @arahelis2038
      @arahelis2038 9 місяців тому +10

      @@Amalgam03 I miss identified him as the Scottish because I though those were Celtic tatoos... Maba was the last one I identified

  • @Dorsidwarf
    @Dorsidwarf Рік тому +59

    Wombles frustration with the capricious watch is always funny

  • @barleysixseventwo6665
    @barleysixseventwo6665 Місяць тому +6

    Womble when two separate people call a man in the captain’s room “Captain”:
    “Well there’s no way we can be absolutely sure…”

  • @lollypopfiend
    @lollypopfiend Рік тому +83

    Thanks so much for putting in all the effort it takes to cut these! Love your work ❤

  • @ladnie9454
    @ladnie9454 Рік тому +51

    “Our principal antagonists” Take it back Womble! Brennan and Hoscut are heroes!

    • @unoriginal_5
      @unoriginal_5 Рік тому +5

      ayo dont forget winston, the most gigachad person on the ship

    • @MinorLife10
      @MinorLife10 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@unoriginal_5and Martin

  • @liluziintrovert
    @liluziintrovert 6 місяців тому +10

    “Abigail. I shot your brother” hmm so this might be Abigail, and the person who this man, possibly the captain, shot would be her brother…we can’t determine anything yet so I won’t put it in the book yet”

  • @laodie6665
    @laodie6665 Рік тому +34

    I cant express how much I am thankful for you to make these cuts. I don’t have time to catch streams and watch vods so these are super needed. Again tyvm

  • @S0RGEx
    @S0RGEx Рік тому +34

    I'm honestly surprised how much Womble knows about the Age of Sail

  • @Scytherman
    @Scytherman Рік тому +80

    I just watched the Outer Wilds supercut yesterday and thought, would be nice if they do one for Obra Dinn too lol.

  • @trifontrifonov4297
    @trifontrifonov4297 Рік тому +44

    The adventures of the worst detective.
    Following Womble's stream of thoughts is a treat. Thank you this upload.

    • @nadrewod999
      @nadrewod999 Рік тому +36

      It's not even that he's completely wrong, it would be more accurate to say that he started out not willing to make reasonable inferences based on the information immediately available (not immediately locking in the Captain, the First Mate, and Abigail, since you lack info to identify the other two attackers until later), making guesses later that are slightly off the mark, not going back to double-check his early work when later guesses get verified, and then using those early inaccurate assumptions to guess several things down the line, causing a lot of slow and painful backtracking later on.

    • @nmeister007
      @nmeister007 Рік тому +16

      @@nadrewod999 His issue was him overthinking and believing the game was trying to deceive him from the get go, when the game really isn't trying to deceive you at any point. It can be a little obtuse with its hints, but it never does outright deception to trick you into thinking someone isn't who they're saying they are.

    • @vincentlelong3106
      @vincentlelong3106 11 місяців тому

      @@nmeister007 *but it never does outright deception to trick you into thinking someone isn't who they're saying they are.*
      "Where is my frenchman"

    • @nmeister007
      @nmeister007 10 місяців тому +9

      @@vincentlelong3106 "Where is my Frenchman?"
      > Mate in question is French
      > He's the only Frenchman onboard
      > Is wearing a French Mariner's shirt at all times
      > Is frequently standing beside the Bosun or accompanying him
      > Can be seen directing Seamen around at one point, which is the Bosun's job and would be his job as the Bosun's Mate if the Bosun isn't around
      > Is last seen stabbing a tentacle that's ripping off the Bosun's arm
      Again, the game's very honest in the information it gives you. It's Womble's fault for convincing himself the game was out to fool him when it every tooltip is trying to help.

    • @vincentlelong3106
      @vincentlelong3106 10 місяців тому +1

      @@nmeister007 I never said there are no clues to identify him, I just implied that this line was very misleading. It happen at the begining of the game, so early that, if I'm not mistaken, you haven't yet completed a chapter that have crew members dying "offscreen" (aka you don't find their corpse) so you're not aware this is even a thing in the game at that point. Of all the info you listed, at the moment you hear that line you only know the first 3, and you don't consider the third one to be a decisive argument (because, again, this is the begining of the game and you expect more direct clues like name dropping). So the only things you are sure are: he is the bosun's mate, he is french, and he got ripped by the kraken. And there is only one crew member you've seen dying like this
      Idk if this is intentionally misleading or just a coincidence, but I've seen a lot of players tagging Maba as the frenchman after this dialogue.

  • @wiiuandmii7619
    @wiiuandmii7619 Рік тому +41

    Yooo, another Obra Dinn cut! Thank you so much for making all of these

  • @NoNameAtAll2
    @NoNameAtAll2 Рік тому +43

    37:48 magical watch
    not only can show stuff through time, but also accurately annotate its sources!

    • @remliqa
      @remliqa Рік тому +1

      If they have the watch, the how come they executed that Formosan guard for a murder he didn't commit? Can't they just check the victims' last memory?

    • @naplockblubba5369
      @naplockblubba5369 Рік тому +2

      @@remliqa Good question actually. Maybe he didn't bother checking since Signor Nichols seemed reputable?
      EDIT: Also, since Li Hong lied and said Hok-Seng Lau confessed to the murder, maybe Henry just didn't feel the need to look into his death, since the murderer allegedly just owned up to it

    • @pirig-gal
      @pirig-gal Рік тому

      @@remliqa I thought the watch is a one-of-a-kind artifact, and that WE have it.

    • @ll-rh4kn
      @ll-rh4kn Рік тому +6

      ​@@pirig-gal It is a one of a kind artifact, that Evans gives us at the start of the game, but he already had it while he was on the obra dinn, the case which contains the watch can be seen in several scene I believe. And Evans also knew how to use it, considering he killed the monkey to give us access to the lazarrette

    • @pirig-gal
      @pirig-gal Рік тому +2

      @@ll-rh4kn I see. That makes sense. Although it's not necessarily known to the crew, maybe Evans decided to keep it a secret?

  • @zmaj12321
    @zmaj12321 Рік тому +19

    Don't like how much he guessed, but it was worth it for that Nathan Peters moment.

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 Рік тому +24

    “Okay so there’s been a murder!” - or a few hundred 🤭

  • @doctorsnakeeater1997
    @doctorsnakeeater1997 Рік тому +20

    I love that he still calls it 'the boogh'

  • @blisslen
    @blisslen Рік тому +167

    These womble cuts are really next level. Womble is remarkably smart and his discovery process makes me feel so dumb in comparison 😅

    • @Justnotoverthink
      @Justnotoverthink Рік тому

      There are some dumb changes to the book tho

    • @maskedknight_0725
      @maskedknight_0725 Рік тому +21

      imma be so real dawg, you and Soviet would be some terrible detectives
      like it fr took him a full 6 hours to get 9 guesses

    • @TheSteve_1992
      @TheSteve_1992 Рік тому +10

      No, his conclusions were about as precise as a watch that was trodden on

    • @WingMaster562
      @WingMaster562 Рік тому

      Were these womble cuts approved by womble himself?

  • @LePLusCoolDesCools
    @LePLusCoolDesCools Рік тому +7

    Soviet is both a very smart guy and a monstrous overthinker.

  • @QuintonMurdock
    @QuintonMurdock 3 дні тому +1

    The fact Soviet knows about sailing ships makes this incredibly fun watch

  • @lewisvanhugten
    @lewisvanhugten Рік тому +20

    😅😅😅😅 I should have just waited for you to do the supercut! I watched all of the streams thinking **will they or when will they do a supercut I'll just watch it now just skipping the lulls and risk missing good bits.**
    You're an absolute legend. Thanks for making these cuts. They're on point and don't miss the best bits.

  • @Coinsocks
    @Coinsocks Рік тому +11

    1:39:06 "Oh my god Womble, you can't just ask somebody if they're African"

  • @sanddry738
    @sanddry738 23 дні тому +1

    I feel like this game would break my brain but I’m glad Soviet is how I experienced it.
    The crab creatures were horrifying. Also the way the story is told and the ending tying up the last points. Hats of to Soviet and especially the devs.

  • @TheMrVengeance
    @TheMrVengeance Рік тому +23

    Rewatching this, it's kind of wild that the tutorial marks the tattooed guy as the first unblurred person that's able to be guessed. Unless you have the very specific knowledge to link his tattoos to his culture and his nationality, he's a pretty hard guess. Especially that early. I know I didn't get him until much later.

    • @ProjectThunderclaw
      @ProjectThunderclaw Рік тому +7

      Even if you're not familiar with the tattooing traditions of New Guinea, it's still pretty easy to eliminate the vast majority of the crew. Like he's clearly NOT English or Chinese or Indian or whatever. In fact, he's the only person who looks remotely like he does, so he's probably the only crewmember from whereever he's from. There are plenty of one-off nationalities, but most of them are European and that's clearly not him, which only leave Maba and Hamadou. If you're completely unfamiliar with the nations in question I suppose you could be forgiven for thinking he's from Sierra Leone, but otherwise it's not a tremendously risky guess at that point.

    • @TheMrVengeance
      @TheMrVengeance Рік тому +4

      @@ProjectThunderclaw - No but you say it, it's a guess. Perhaps not "risky" but it's still fully a guess, while this is the first person the game unblurs to tutorial you on the fact that _this person should NOT be a guess anymore._
      Abigail would've been a much more obvious pick for that tutorial. When you know that she's married to the captain and has a brother on board, and she's one of only three women and has the last names Witterel Hoscut, the same as the captain and another officer. That's 100% clear. But she's not unblurred.

    • @scout360pyroz
      @scout360pyroz Рік тому

      you don't need any of that.
      you look at the nationalities and pick the guy from new guinea since he is the obvious tribal from a "backwards" culture that might put massive torso tattoos on display.

    • @scout360pyroz
      @scout360pyroz Рік тому

      @@TheMrVengeance no. the tutorial using him was perfectly fine, because it forced you to try and look more deeply and profile him properly.

    • @TheMrVengeance
      @TheMrVengeance Рік тому +5

      @scout360pyroz - You're making my point, the whole idea behind the face unblurring is that you DON'T need to do more digging and profiling. It's supposed to be the sign that you're done with that. And there are multiple better targets to tutorial that on earlier on, Abigail for instance.
      Also take your racist logic elsewhere.

  • @christopherlopes4258
    @christopherlopes4258 11 місяців тому +4

    I am obsessed with the fact that you beat the whole game without the numbers on the hammocks lmao

  • @WhiteKnuckleRide512
    @WhiteKnuckleRide512 Рік тому +12

    I just want to say that judging by your channel’s history you have fantastic taste in games and content creators

  • @Shugaka
    @Shugaka Рік тому +10

    HE PLAYED THIS?!?! OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE EDIT ❤

  • @hmmmmmmh2997
    @hmmmmmmh2997 Рік тому +4

    19:50 Thank you so much Eelis for adding this :')

  • @Birthday888
    @Birthday888 Рік тому +4

    Ah... One of my favorite games played by one of my favorite youtubers. You have my thanks for editting this all together.

  • @mixednarwhal
    @mixednarwhal 2 місяці тому +5

    11:59 Kraken revealed.
    39:56 Crab soldier revealed.
    53:18 Finding the mermaids in the boats.
    1:49:54 Insurance Assessment.
    1:51:18 The monkey paw.
    1:56:22 Credits.

  • @indigoglass
    @indigoglass Рік тому +1

    great edit, thank you! I wouldn't have minded getting to see more of his struggle/thought process towards the end but overall a great video. Fun to see his nautical/historical expertise as well, I think Lucas Pope would enjoy watching this one!

  • @Banzai_AWOS
    @Banzai_AWOS Рік тому +15

    Shit, I just finished the outer wilds supercut and immediately get a new video after?

  • @cheefmahogany
    @cheefmahogany Рік тому +4

    i find it amazing that womble is fine with these crabs but still so freaked by spiders

  • @mrjoe332
    @mrjoe332 10 днів тому

    11:58 this moment is an amazing example of how this game perfected the Dramatic Reveals.
    You hear the storm, the screaming, the image opens and you see the falling mast.
    The shock of this tragic death hits you, a poor soul lost during a storm at sea.
    But then you look around... And there it is, sprawling in all directions, a thing you cannot comprehend taking over the ship. And now you know, things are much stranger than you expected

  • @UseZapCannon
    @UseZapCannon Рік тому +26

    It's a weakness of the game that if you miss the hammock tags, there are like 20 fates that are pure guess-and-check

    • @ZippydaSquirl
      @ZippydaSquirl Рік тому +3

      20??? Like, three. I got most everyone except the Chinese guys and never knew about the hammocks until after I beat the game.

    • @UseZapCannon
      @UseZapCannon Рік тому +5

      @@ZippydaSquirl All the Indians except Syed, the Peters brothers, all the Russians except Volkov, and the topman with the anchor tattoo come to mind

    • @ZippydaSquirl
      @ZippydaSquirl Рік тому +2

      @@UseZapCannon damn it, now you’re making me second guess myself. It’s been years, but my gut tells me I only struggled with the Chinese guys… maybe I did some name swapping on the Peters brothers? Surely not TWENTY people, though. I wonder if there’s a guide or wiki that details how many hints are available per person.

    • @Davenzoid
      @Davenzoid 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ZippydaSquirlit is absolutely not 20

  • @zachanikwano
    @zachanikwano Місяць тому

    The reveals/twists are always so fun
    Pope really framed your first moments in those memories to be all normal, and then you look up or to your right and blows your damn mind

  • @jpgdotexe
    @jpgdotexe Рік тому +11

    “IS THIS GUY BLACK????!! Is he the African?????”
    1:39:09

  • @russellmlfranklin
    @russellmlfranklin Рік тому +2

    The quality of editing here is first class.

  • @realizeyourparadise
    @realizeyourparadise Рік тому +2

    Love these videos, thank you so much! :)

  • @Murks33
    @Murks33 Рік тому +3

    Homie really thought he meant friend when saying mate

  • @5ilver42
    @5ilver42 Рік тому +13

    Completing this game efficiently requires you to tap into assumptions, stereotypes, and judgements,... ancient empirical rules of thumb to figure out who is who. If you catch all of the clues which play into these, then no "wild guessing" of any kind is actually needed.

    • @scout360pyroz
      @scout360pyroz Рік тому

      ancient empirical rule of thumb?????
      buddy that sort of thing NEVER went away, even in the 1st world countries.
      and it is used for exactly the same purposes.

  • @flamshiz
    @flamshiz 29 днів тому +2

    "the helm! you're at the helm! you're the helmsman!"

  • @stanislav_skorobogatov
    @stanislav_skorobogatov Рік тому +3

    Hey man, appreciate the montage. A big chunk of the game is spent wandering around, now we don't haveto watch all of it

  • @aidendavid1123
    @aidendavid1123 Місяць тому +1

    First time ever seeing someone get Solomon Syed in their first three 💀

  • @ursulcx299
    @ursulcx299 Рік тому +1

    Obra din is such a great game. Thank for reminding me to try it again now that most answers were far away in my memory

  • @mixednarwhal
    @mixednarwhal Рік тому +3

    After stumbling upon this channel and seeing the views compared to the amount of subscribers I feel obligated to subscribe

  • @jmcauley650
    @jmcauley650 11 днів тому +1

    40:45 this music (Soldiers of the Sea) is the best

  • @Drjd-yq4bl
    @Drjd-yq4bl Рік тому +3

    This game always makes me say “What the hell happened here!?”

  • @TranClanYT
    @TranClanYT 8 місяців тому

    Always love rewatching this cut, Obra Dinn has such a unique design and atmosphere. Womble's pretty good too xD

  • @JohnDickinson
    @JohnDickinson 9 місяців тому +2

    Soviet : What's with the Monkey?
    Answer: He's dating the Goat.

  • @TurquoizeGoldscraper
    @TurquoizeGoldscraper 6 днів тому

    12:51 - "sack in, get a better fucking insurance agent"

  • @slavengineering8344
    @slavengineering8344 8 місяців тому +1

    1:38 Womble, the word you're looking for is "skeletonised"

  • @Queqs_
    @Queqs_ Рік тому +3

    You make such great compilations! Super excited whenever I see you upload!

  • @thefurryinyourwalls
    @thefurryinyourwalls 8 місяців тому +1

    Dang, when he says he's thick in the head he bloody means it

  • @mixednarwhal
    @mixednarwhal Рік тому

    I have rewatched this video 4 times and I think it’s because of the smooth editing mixed with wombles voice

  • @MKVProcrastinator
    @MKVProcrastinator Рік тому

    I didn't even know he played this game! Thanks for this supercut!

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop Рік тому +2

    17:11 There's the thumbnail/description quote.

  • @herusolares5320
    @herusolares5320 26 днів тому

    1:56:10 I just realized that the scarab next to the book, is a reference to "The amulet of seven stars", by Bram Stoker

  • @flamshiz
    @flamshiz 29 днів тому

    i cant believe syed was the first time anything was confirmed lmaooo

  • @cola98765
    @cola98765 Рік тому +1

    36:45 ah yes... the "boog" of the ship.

  • @buttonasas
    @buttonasas Рік тому +4

    Haha, should've seen this video coming.

  • @marcusc9931
    @marcusc9931 Рік тому +1

    I love everyone's reaction to the kraken attack

  • @silverswordsmith5424
    @silverswordsmith5424 Місяць тому

    You know, since he seems to have enjoyed this game so much, I feel like he should do a playthrough of The Case of the Golden Idol as well. Same type of game.

  • @Cassius40k
    @Cassius40k Рік тому

    I didn't expect him to get so far without noticing the numbers.

  • @Orange_Tree_
    @Orange_Tree_ Рік тому +2

    1:15:30 Womble sure knows ways around indians