Remove all type of fiction.. and you have a perpetum mobile. We look 13.8 bilion years into the past (using telescope) and we find nothing stationary... everything is moving smart guy , since big ben. Voyager 1 and 2 are moving since 1978... and probably will travel a millions of years....because... no friction...
Remember those circular paper airplanes? I'm thinking he could just print a really deep outer ring, low pitch blades to hold a hub, and build a flying propeller.
Running a fly wheel latterly along the fuselage would really make the plane extremely stable acting like a gyroscope. If this was utilized on an ultralight the landings might be so stable that you could technically just land with only one wheel . You may well accomplish a most perfect safe landing. It’s good to see someone toying with these kind of ideas.
You seem like you know what you're talking about. I'm the furthest thing from an engineer but I've been imagining a fanciful glider that has flywheel powered propeller(s) which is why I found this video. what are your thoughts on the feasibility of placing turbines posterior to the propellers that rewind the flywheels using drag while cruising or when needed for air braking? It's only natural that fly wheels be used for flying and I want lowtech environmentally friendly and safe ways for normal poor people to fly.
There used to be a toy frisbee like device that used a thin cardboard tube, with a heavier leading edge, that used a form of the Magnus effect to fly. Sorry for the run on sentence.
It looks like the little stub of propellor blade left was enough to propel the ring, but didn't have very much drag and so the ring kept its speed up for much longer. I think with more optimisation (maybe a non-printed ring that could spin a lot faster) and a shallow-pitch, optimised set of short blades, you could probably get a pretty impressive flight out of one.
You can do the same thing with an empty toilet roll. Just cut it in half, wrap a layer or two of tape around it at one end and spin it forwards out of your hand (which takes some practice). Quite a fun toy if you can get it working.
We made freesbies like that when i was a kid by cutting a coke can in half and remove the top by filing the fold so it get a bit heavier in front. Throw like a american football and it flies really well, u can even do loops
Not the actual sound of a plane crashing. Movies just use that sound for planes crashing so it has become very familiar. The sound is actually the WW2 Stuka siren.
@@4ae109 While many movies for increased drama use a sound like the Jericho trumpet fitted on some Ju 87, props can create a similar sound when rotating beyond their spec, or rather when dragging the engine with them, due to the high airspeed. The Jericho was after all pretty much just a small prop fixed to the undercarriage. The difference is just in the pitch and loudness. Easier to record in a studio too.
4:57 The flywheel is creating a massive amount of torque relative to the weight of the plane. with the flywheel perpendicular to the plane, and the rotation twisting toward the nose, it puts it in the FDAU position, perfect for a broken propeller. adding a few grams to the tail may do the trick... or re-gearing to have the opposite effect, pulling the nose up and adding weight to that, but with the wings being the vertices, it would be a much larger weight increase due to proximity alone. OR you could orient the flywheel and gear for a perpendicular rotation opposite that of the propeller, using carbon fiber spindles instead of a disc to reduce drag, possibly shaped to increase thrust? I think adding weight to the tail would still be your best option with the current configuration. 5:46 I should have just kept watching lmao
Not only that, but with as much angular momentum as a flywheel has, the precession force will be absurd. So even if you manage to put enough weight on the back to counteract the momentum of the flywheel (which is also only going to work momentarily as the flywheel loses momentum to the propeller), any torque applied by the frame of the plane to the flywheel will cause a precession according to the right-hand rule (so 90-degrees deflection from the direction of angular momentum). So, if the flywheel is spinning forward, and a breeze blows the tail to the left (applying clockwise torque perpendicular to the spinning of the flywheel and parallel to the ground), the flywheel will precess counterclockwise perpendicular to the ground, causing the plane to roll to the left while it yaws to the right... and it will crash pretty much immediately. A similar effect will happen if something makes the plane roll, though if it rolls to the right, the flywheel will cause it to yaw to the right, not the left. This behavior will reverse if the flywheel is spinning backwards: a roll to the right will cause a yaw to the left, and a yaw to the right will cause a roll to the right. The only way to stop this from happening is to decouple the flywheel from the frame, like the 3-axis gimbal mount of an avionics gyroscope. You would only be able to extract energy from that type of flywheel electromagnetically.
@SmokeyPillow I rarely comment on videos, so no need to have the editor open all the time. @ELEGANTFOX, thinking more carefully about it now, I believe I typed the first part, played the video for more reference, and saw that everything I said was a moot point... So instead of removing all logical thinking, I simply added humor.
Don't give up, try to set up the propeller in front of the aluminum wheel. You want to make a perpetual motion device? You need more. Find ways to put capacitors in the scheme so one wheel will recharge the capacitor to give you a perpetual motion device.
I remember reading about a German (I think) early unmanned helicopter project where they basically built one of those propellers with a flywheel in big. The idea was that you could launch it near the frontlines. The helicopter would go up, shoot some pictures, and slowly come down as the rpm decrease. I looked for it a while now but can't find it again. If someone knows what I mean, please let me know.
You explore different concepts that is really great. Never imagined using compressed air , gyro based pitch control, flywheel powered plane, elastic powered plane. Awesome
I followed most of your plane propulsion designs, and the flywheel is my favorite. Thanks for taking us along on your thought processes and trials. Amazing slow-mo shots. Great production !!
This video was really great! I loved the super simplified version of the design at the end. Very ingenious! Was also really happy to see you using real safety glasses at @4:08 instead of the "safety squints" like @2:08. Stay safe Tom!
I love it how you make this super complicated and expensive plane out of carbon fiber and aluminium and stuff and it's almost a total letdown and then a 5€ plane with a 10 € launching station illustrates perfectly the point you were trying to make and also WORKS :))
Commercial pilot signing in, and I’d love to see your idea fly! By the way your first design constantly wants to fly nose down indicates that the centre of gravity may be too far forward. As well, the wing dihedral is a bit a mute point, as it helps create stability in unstable air. Having a straight wing with winglets would be more efficient at drag reduction. And a basic tail dragger landing gear forward of the CG would save the output gear overhaul every flight. Good luck!!
I notice the plane nosing down and was thinking the same thing about the weight being to far forward. It would be interesting to see if moving the weight backwards would have lead to a more successful attempt.
Have you tried mounting the flywheel on other axis ? Like maybe parallel to the ground or facing sideways like the toy ?Also the rotation direction might be important. The fact the toy's ring continues flying by itself when the propeller exploded is also interesting. Did you know some planes attempt using rotating cylindrical wings using the magnus effect to create lift.
The issue is the Center of Gravity is off aka the flywheel is to far forward causing it to be nose heavy. The centrifugal force of the flywheel can cause issue once you Roll the plane left or right.
@@Mansare94, I've watched Tom for years and know about his projects. My statement is still true. The plane nose dived into the ground. That is caused by incorrect CG and/or not enough wing surface to substain flight. The cord of that wing was narrow (but was the wing span enough?) and with the normal CG approx 25% back of the leading edge of the wing, the boom length and tail weight might not been enough to offset the weight of the flywheel. RPM can be adjusted if needed. The real test is do a glide test without the use of flywheel. It should float down not arc down. Some some food for thought.
One of the VERY few youtubers I may consider actually paying money to. You do an incredible job Mr. Stanton. Is there a UA-cam reward competition for best engineering channels and things of that nature? - I want to go put my vote in.
4:17 I instinctly dove away at this point in the video. 4:22 The engineer mantra. Was re-watching this after your bike flywheel adventure. So the second thumbs up must be stored here as the official one was already given: 👍
4:53 You can clearly see and feel the frustration, disappointment and hopelessness on Tom's face!!! That's the exact moment I remember myself from 2 years ago wandering in my thoughts about my project, failing again and again!! ☹️
*_"Unless you want a flying Hula-Loop"_* .... perfect comment for the fabulous slo-mo action on the screen. Well done. You do know that your channel is an inspiration for all the young inquisitive scientific minds out across the globe, and that you make it okay to fail, and then learn from those mistakes. It is an admirable thing that you do, and a wonderful legacy that you are leaving behind you. Even I, at age 62, enjoy your content and the way you approach your projects and present them to the world. Thank you for what you do because you do it so well and so honestly. Keep it up Tom, the world needs more minds like yours out their making it okay to be creative thru trial and error, with a reward at the end *_either way it turns out._* And for that you have earned my admiration towards excellence. So, Tally ho, and all that sort of rot! (stupid thing to say...) (Oh darn, I revealed myself as one of those damn Yankees from across the Pond... well, not all of us are full blown idiots like the one in the White House.... 🥴🤪🤑😎🤫)
6:21 The way it just flew off like that had me burst out in laughter xD FYI, it takes a LOT to make me burst out in laughter when I'm watching a video on my own.
Maybe try a helicopter design, versa a plane. The flywheel acting as a gyroscope would work a lot better on its X-axis and maybe use and/or adjust the gyroscope/flywheel angle for movement with servos and Lil RC wireless controller. I wouldn't know how to control the speed and lift of it tho lol.. but will be cool to see!
I bought a futuristic toy plane that used a similar concept and worked really well maybe about 15 years ago. It most closely resembled the Project Zero Electric Tilt Rotor plane except it had a single central rotor. It was string pull release, when it rose off the spindle the rotor would tilt 45 degrees and it would fly forward. I did a search but I can't find it or who made it. It flew very well with that configuration. I guess now that I think about it, it didn't have much to do with storing energy in a fly wheel. They work best when they are heavy and that is best ground based. Probably some gyroscopic forces and direction of rotation that have to be taken into consideration. Good effort, really interesting experiment, seems like you get through it pretty straight forward and quick.
"FLYwheel Plane" you got my like before I even played the first second of the video, would you stop reading my mind please? edit after I've seen it: I loved the video, I love seeing how you adapt your concepts.
I’m really enjoying your videos now 🤩 A friend and I got a patent more than 20 years ago for a magnetic bearing that can be used for flywheel storage systems so we understand the challenges you face. Please keep making cool videos 👍🏽
I was thinking of other weird energy storage methods, and I was about to recommend a gravity powered plane, but..... that's just a glider isn't it. Maybe put a tank of water in the plane and have it drip through a tiny hydroelectric dam to power the propeller? ;)
My favorite thing is when I come up with a brilliant idea for a new way of doing something but realize after spending some time on it that it's already been done... 😂 As a kid I drew up a revolutionary new design for a "flying squirrel suit" only to later realize skydivers have been using something similar for decades...
I'm sorry but I laughed my ass off when the first plane crashed. And then at the second time. I wanted to cheer you, but I was laughing hard... And the you succeeded, and I was so happy for you.
@@DL6UK Please do not misunderstand me. The video is awesome, Tom is awesome. it was a smart idea. I'm not having fun because "that's foolish" or because "that's a stupid idea". I was laughing because the way the plane crashed on the ground was funny. And it remind me all the times my paper airplanes crashed right into the ground. That's juste a laugh at a comical situation, not at all a laugh on Tom "you're a fool, stop your shit". Tom makes awesome vids, I suscribed some time ago now, and I'm almost watching all his past vids. I'm a total fan.
You are trying a lot of things and very often with limited success, but I respect all this efforts. No one knows if thing work if there is not someone who tried them.
Could you used the flywheel technique at the beginning of the video but make the carbon fiber into a propeller shape and use that at the front of the plane?
@@frackcha Ever seen the original Flight of the Phoenix with jimmy Stewart? The radial engine used in that flying box car used a shot gun shell blast to spin a fly wheel that cranked the engine over. Really a unique and fascinating idea!
Hi Tom! Have you thought about the gyroscopic effect of the fly wheel on the stability of the plane? In the new design you switched the rotation axes of the flywheel to be the direction the plane is pointed in, so it's possible that could be stabilizing it. I'd be interested in seeing how it works with the heavy flywheel but rotated 90 so the rotation axis of rotation points in the forward direction.
Reminds me of those ring pull toy airplanes from when I was a kid, in the mid 70's. The plane was sat on a pistol grip mount that had a ring pull string that would automatically retract with a spring, and a similar ratcheting mechanism like you have made. When you pulled the string quickly, it would spin up the relatively heavy propeller and launch the plane off the ring pull and pistol grip holder , and launch it into the sky. I think they were taken off the, market because kids would launch them at each other's heads, but they sure were fun.
Your flywheel is gearing too slow with the propeller. Tom, you're way too smart to miss this detail. You could count your propeller RPM to determine if anything you make will fly. I look forward to see more videos about this.
2:40 Safety squint
Hi Destin
100% as effective as safety glasses 50% of the time!
how hasn’t anyone noticed you yet?
hey man love ur vidoes
This plane would have flown a lot better had he incorporated a SNATCH BLOCK !
The perpetual motion ring is fueled by crushed hopes and dreams held in a suspension of tears and anguish. Good Rage/Kg ratio
@@jasong8501 I think a lot of charlatans have historically tried to make flywheel based perpetual motion machines?
@@jasong8501 Lol dude. I'm not the original poster, I was just trying to guess his POV.
Rubber bands don’t look so bad after seeing this.
THERE IS NO FREE ENERGY DEVICE
Remove all type of fiction.. and you have a perpetum mobile. We look 13.8 bilion years into the past (using telescope) and we find nothing stationary... everything is moving smart guy , since big ben. Voyager 1 and 2 are moving since 1978... and probably will travel a millions of years....because... no friction...
Engage safety squints! haha please follow up to figure out WHY that ring flew so far and so stable all on its own, amazing.
Might need to try 'flywheel' projectiles next haha
ua-cam.com/video/n4nZPU6L4cI/v-deo.html
It's because of gyroscopic forces
Remember those circular paper airplanes? I'm thinking he could just print a really deep outer ring, low pitch blades to hold a hub, and build a flying propeller.
Ah a fellow AVE viewer I see
Running a fly wheel latterly along the fuselage would really make the plane extremely stable acting like a gyroscope. If this was utilized on an ultralight the landings might be so stable that you could technically just land with only one wheel . You may well accomplish a most perfect safe landing. It’s good to see someone toying with these kind of ideas.
No, it actually gets instable when decelerates!
You seem like you know what you're talking about. I'm the furthest thing from an engineer but I've been imagining a fanciful glider that has flywheel powered propeller(s) which is why I found this video. what are your thoughts on the feasibility of placing turbines posterior to the propellers that rewind the flywheels using drag while cruising or when needed for air braking? It's only natural that fly wheels be used for flying and I want lowtech environmentally friendly and safe ways for normal poor people to fly.
Good luck steering. The wheel wants to keep going straight. You will never get the plane turning
@@hornetIIkite3 what about two on the wingtips with brakes
The brakes engage the propellers
Local engineer spends month reinventing a common children's toy.
@Franz Huber but how does the UI *feel*
Franz Huber As someone in middle school I can say I have learned a mix of the two.
seriously i felt the same thing. at least he could have put a flywheel on that propeller to make it store more energy if that's how it works.
That's how it works
which is the toy? pls tell me
6:21 - the ring flew surprisingly far, I'd like to see a video exploring/optimising it.
Discovered by accident
There used to be a toy frisbee like device that used a thin cardboard tube, with a heavier leading edge, that used a form of the Magnus effect to fly. Sorry for the run on sentence.
It looks like the little stub of propellor blade left was enough to propel the ring, but didn't have very much drag and so the ring kept its speed up for much longer.
I think with more optimisation (maybe a non-printed ring that could spin a lot faster) and a shallow-pitch, optimised set of short blades, you could probably get a pretty impressive flight out of one.
You can do the same thing with an empty toilet roll. Just cut it in half, wrap a layer or two of tape around it at one end and spin it forwards out of your hand (which takes some practice). Quite a fun toy if you can get it working.
We made freesbies like that when i was a kid by cutting a coke can in half and remove the top by filing the fold so it get a bit heavier in front. Throw like a american football and it flies really well, u can even do loops
idk why, but the flying hoola hoop gets me everytime!
6:20
I laughed so hard I look down on the comment to see if i was the only one !
@@bicross87 same
I thought it was awesome.
😂😂 fly amazing. that g force broken it.
It's hilarious, isn't it? 😂
4:15 okay that cut back to wide when it crashed had me hollering.
no, you didnt holler
Fancy seeing you here
The sound the plane made om the way towards the gopro was more satisfying than I expected it to be
oh hello there
same lmao
This guy motivates me that if he can make so much fail attempts to achieve one successful attempt then why should i stop
4:13 - 4:18
Thats how sounds of fighter planes in war movies are made.
Stuka jericho trumpet :)
that sounded straight like external wastage of a sport car
"Flying Hula Hoop" must be your next project!
Please, that was really cool.
@@calebsherman886 yes
Use Magnus effect to generate some lift and off we go!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_effect
LoL, googling that would likely end in a faptrap.....!
Tom Stanton give an eye to X-Zylo it's something for your super powers
4:15 That sounded like an actual plane crash
this comment is gonna get stolen or many many likes
It also looked like an actual plane crash
Lmao, i thought the same.
2:43 putting on the safety squints
@@marcus_w0 wow here comes onther one
This is great, but I'm going to build a plane powered only by Tom Stanton's accent
Get this comment more likes!!!
Tbh I don’t think his accent is very strong compared to some other British people
Accent?!? Which accent?
Joel Creates it will be stronger than vibranium
The accent is on curiosity and sheer determination. Meanwhile, he makes the full movie as well!
6:19 can you imagine walking down the park and see a flying circle like that.
I want a whole video on just that
and here we see a clickbait thumbnail out in the wild
🛸 👀 😂
@@buskingkarma2503 (x files theme)
@@theshuman100 😂
I love how when the plane crashed it sounded like an actual plane crashing
Not the actual sound of a plane crashing. Movies just use that sound for planes crashing so it has become very familiar. The sound is actually the WW2 Stuka siren.
9/11
@@4ae109 While many movies for increased drama use a sound like the Jericho trumpet fitted on some Ju 87, props can create a similar sound when rotating beyond their spec, or rather when dragging the engine with them, due to the high airspeed. The Jericho was after all pretty much just a small prop fixed to the undercarriage. The difference is just in the pitch and loudness. Easier to record in a studio too.
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4:57 The flywheel is creating a massive amount of torque relative to the weight of the plane. with the flywheel perpendicular to the plane, and the rotation twisting toward the nose, it puts it in the FDAU position, perfect for a broken propeller. adding a few grams to the tail may do the trick... or re-gearing to have the opposite effect, pulling the nose up and adding weight to that, but with the wings being the vertices, it would be a much larger weight increase due to proximity alone. OR you could orient the flywheel and gear for a perpendicular rotation opposite that of the propeller, using carbon fiber spindles instead of a disc to reduce drag, possibly shaped to increase thrust? I think adding weight to the tail would still be your best option with the current configuration.
5:46 I should have just kept watching lmao
Were you watching the video while typing? You didn't edited it
This was 2 months ago, I don't know how to answer your question.
@@ELEGANTFOX Probably just had the comment editor open during the whole video
Not only that, but with as much angular momentum as a flywheel has, the precession force will be absurd. So even if you manage to put enough weight on the back to counteract the momentum of the flywheel (which is also only going to work momentarily as the flywheel loses momentum to the propeller), any torque applied by the frame of the plane to the flywheel will cause a precession according to the right-hand rule (so 90-degrees deflection from the direction of angular momentum). So, if the flywheel is spinning forward, and a breeze blows the tail to the left (applying clockwise torque perpendicular to the spinning of the flywheel and parallel to the ground), the flywheel will precess counterclockwise perpendicular to the ground, causing the plane to roll to the left while it yaws to the right... and it will crash pretty much immediately. A similar effect will happen if something makes the plane roll, though if it rolls to the right, the flywheel will cause it to yaw to the right, not the left. This behavior will reverse if the flywheel is spinning backwards: a roll to the right will cause a yaw to the left, and a yaw to the right will cause a roll to the right. The only way to stop this from happening is to decouple the flywheel from the frame, like the 3-axis gimbal mount of an avionics gyroscope. You would only be able to extract energy from that type of flywheel electromagnetically.
@SmokeyPillow I rarely comment on videos, so no need to have the editor open all the time. @ELEGANTFOX, thinking more carefully about it now, I believe I typed the first part, played the video for more reference, and saw that everything I said was a moot point... So instead of removing all logical thinking, I simply added humor.
6:20
Hula hoop must return to his home planet. His people need him.
This one got me so hard
r/mypeopleneedme
Yeah the gyro effect keeping it straight and flying in the same direction it was propelled was a real surprise.
6:14 That propeller flew far away when it broke ...wow.
Weeeeeeeee !
Flew
Like a plastic vortex ring or something :p
The MAGNUS effect
Yeah that surprised me as well
Don't give up, try to set up the propeller in front of the aluminum wheel. You want to make a perpetual motion device? You need more. Find ways to put capacitors in the scheme so one wheel will recharge the capacitor to give you a perpetual motion device.
I remember reading about a German (I think) early unmanned helicopter project where they basically built one of those propellers with a flywheel in big. The idea was that you could launch it near the frontlines. The helicopter would go up, shoot some pictures, and slowly come down as the rpm decrease.
I looked for it a while now but can't find it again. If someone knows what I mean, please let me know.
The flying hoop has stolen my heart ❤️
6:21 Next project, Magnus effect aeroplane with a spinning outer fuselage and no wings?
LMAOOOOOO
Hey Tom! I wounder if your original design would have problems anyways due to gyroscopic effects.
At more than 20k rpm the whole plane has such a vibration that gyroscopic effect is not that important ;)
Good point, going up or down would cause left or right turns. But it would be fun piloting hahaha
That is what I was thinking. At 4:40 it looks really odd. I don't know if that is gyroscopic force or just weird stalling.
@@ka-50withsaams36 click on that timestamp it sounds like a burp! :') but it's just the tail end of Tom saying "propeller"
@LueLou Forgive the ignorance. I'm not familiar with aeronautic terminologies, but I am with the mechanics of rotating bodies.
My friend, you will make a lot of kids happy with that.
You explore different concepts that is really great. Never imagined using compressed air , gyro based pitch control, flywheel powered plane, elastic powered plane. Awesome
I followed most of your plane propulsion designs, and the flywheel is my favorite.
Thanks for taking us along on your thought processes and trials. Amazing slow-mo shots. Great production !!
3:18 Me getting out of bed, ready to take on the world.
😂😂😂
This video was really great! I loved the super simplified version of the design at the end. Very ingenious! Was also really happy to see you using real safety glasses at @4:08 instead of the "safety squints" like @2:08. Stay safe Tom!
When the title said, “flywheel powered plane”
Then i saw the first part, I immediately went,
“So you’re gonna fly a plane using a bike?”
Flywheel powered locomotives are still used in mining in the former Soviet Union. The "Gyroz" HUNOSA the Spanish coal combine used them as well.
That hoop sailing off into the horizon was beautiful.
That sure gave me a good laugh when that prop assembly came apart in slo-mo, accompanied by your droll commentary! Nice work, sir.
6:02 that could very well be an amazing toy. Toy makers should carry that 😍
Toy makers today; Poopsie slime surprise
I love it how you make this super complicated and expensive plane out of carbon fiber and aluminium and stuff and it's almost a total letdown and then a 5€ plane with a 10 € launching station illustrates perfectly the point you were trying to make and also WORKS :))
Love the slow mo shots! Amazing to see how the whole airframe moves with the spinning prop
Commercial pilot signing in, and I’d love to see your idea fly!
By the way your first design constantly wants to fly nose down indicates that the centre of gravity may be too far forward. As well, the wing dihedral is a bit a mute point, as it helps create stability in unstable air. Having a straight wing with winglets would be more efficient at drag reduction. And a basic tail dragger landing gear forward of the CG would save the output gear overhaul every flight.
Good luck!!
I notice the plane nosing down and was thinking the same thing about the weight being to far forward. It would be interesting to see if moving the weight backwards would have lead to a more successful attempt.
Nice that you show the failures as well the successes :)
Engineering 101: K.I.S.S. Keep it simple Stanton. Well done mate.
Fortunately for the Allies the Germans had trouble with that concept in WW2.
@@kennyg1358 German guy here.
We still haven't figured that out
great quality high detail crystal clear communication, no pissing about, and.. ZERO FKN MUZAK .. this guy's a stone genius ---- subscribed big time
Extremely precious footage of a flywheel propeller breaking up.
Have you tried mounting the flywheel on other axis ? Like maybe parallel to the ground or facing sideways like the toy ?Also the rotation direction might be important. The fact the toy's ring continues flying by itself when the propeller exploded is also interesting.
Did you know some planes attempt using rotating cylindrical wings using the magnus effect to create lift.
the flywheel is spinning in a way that's forcing the plane to go down nose 1st probable solution 2 flywheels spinning in counter-rotation ?
The issue is the Center of Gravity is off aka the flywheel is to far forward causing it to be nose heavy. The centrifugal force of the flywheel can cause issue once you Roll the plane left or right.
@@gregoetker1389 This guy has built a plane before, I'm sure he's got the centre of mass right...
@@Mansare94 You spelled "center" wrong. (lol)
@@Mansare94, I've watched Tom for years and know about his projects.
My statement is still true. The plane nose dived into the ground. That is caused by incorrect CG and/or not enough wing surface to substain flight.
The cord of that wing was narrow (but was the wing span enough?) and with the normal CG approx 25% back of the leading edge of the wing, the boom length and tail weight might not been enough to offset the weight of the flywheel.
RPM can be adjusted if needed.
The real test is do a glide test without the use of flywheel. It should float down not arc down.
Some some food for thought.
@@melcrose
Center is Americanized spelling and Centre is British spelling, like color and colour.
His style of video is progressively becoming more like that of veritasium's. Pretty cool
Great outtakes Tom. Superb video and congrats on succeeding with flywheel flight.
One of the VERY few youtubers I may consider actually paying money to. You do an incredible job Mr. Stanton.
Is there a UA-cam reward competition for best engineering channels and things of that nature? - I want to go put my vote in.
Love the plane at the end based on the toy, will we be seeing a giant version with radio control?
Peter Sripol wants your number!
Well, that flying hoop looks rather awesome too
6:15 that was incredibly satisfying...for some odd reason.
I must go my people need me
4:17 I instinctly dove away at this point in the video.
4:22 The engineer mantra.
Was re-watching this after your bike flywheel adventure. So the second thumbs up must be stored here as the official one was already given: 👍
6:19 the propeller taking off into the distance made me lose my shit, I was laughing so hard.
"Later, Gator!"
@ 6:22 "I must go, my people need me"
If it still flew into a twig ..
I'm still convinced your elon musks son
@@octaviusgalacticus2253 xaebps-12
I'm so easily amused.
6:20 these flying loops would made a real exotic plane or at least exotic propellant system.
Look up marvel q-ship mate. It'd be awsum if its real
4:53
You can clearly see and feel the frustration, disappointment and hopelessness on Tom's face!!! That's the exact moment I remember myself from 2 years ago wandering in my thoughts about my project, failing again and again!! ☹️
Albert Einstein once said that there aren't any failures. It's just a collection of experiments of how not to do something.
I dont know why but watching the red prop plane made me smile especially during the high RPM explosion lol. Great work my dude!!
its great to see all the failures and problem solving.
That hula hoop slowmotion footage is priceless! 😂😁😁😃😂😁😃😂
5:14 duuuuuude that was teh toy of my childhood, you really maked up my day ;D
Thecracktroll999 Productions, You play Roblox you are still a kid no adult plays roblox.
*_"Unless you want a flying Hula-Loop"_* .... perfect comment for the fabulous slo-mo action on the screen.
Well done.
You do know that your channel is an inspiration for all the young inquisitive scientific minds out across the globe, and that you make it okay to fail, and then learn from those mistakes. It is an admirable thing that you do, and a wonderful legacy that you are leaving behind you.
Even I, at age 62, enjoy your content and the way you approach your projects and present them to the world.
Thank you for what you do because you do it so well and so honestly.
Keep it up Tom, the world needs more minds like yours out their making it okay to be creative thru trial and error, with a reward at the end *_either way it turns out._*
And for that you have earned my admiration towards excellence.
So, Tally ho, and all that sort of rot! (stupid thing to say...)
(Oh darn, I revealed myself as one of those damn Yankees from across the Pond... well, not all of us are full blown idiots like the one in the White House.... 🥴🤪🤑😎🤫)
That was satisfying to see that thing take off so well once the right concept was put into use 🤘
admire your unwaning enthusiasm!! ...and the analytical mind !!
For a tip I’d recommend to make a test throw first without power to see which glides better, flatiron or actual plane 😄
6:21 The way it just flew off like that had me burst out in laughter xD
FYI, it takes a LOT to make me burst out in laughter when I'm watching a video on my own.
Your own video?
Ive said it before ill say it again this is the most underated science channel on UA-cam
Maybe try a helicopter design, versa a plane. The flywheel acting as a gyroscope would work a lot better on its X-axis and maybe use and/or adjust the gyroscope/flywheel angle for movement with servos and Lil RC wireless controller. I wouldn't know how to control the speed and lift of it tho lol.. but will be cool to see!
I bought a futuristic toy plane that used a similar concept and worked really well maybe about 15 years ago. It most closely resembled the Project Zero Electric Tilt Rotor plane except it had a single central rotor. It was string pull release, when it rose off the spindle the rotor would tilt 45 degrees and it would fly forward. I did a search but I can't find it or who made it. It flew very well with that configuration. I guess now that I think about it, it didn't have much to do with storing energy in a fly wheel. They work best when they are heavy and that is best ground based. Probably some gyroscopic forces and direction of rotation that have to be taken into consideration. Good effort, really interesting experiment, seems like you get through it pretty straight forward and quick.
the flying ring interests me the most, as it took off and was able to fly really far although been so simple
"FLYwheel Plane" you got my like before I even played the first second of the video, would you stop reading my mind please?
edit after I've seen it: I loved the video, I love seeing how you adapt your concepts.
Oh man I'd love to see a flywheel-as-prop plane like the second one, with a machined and balanced metal flywheel like the first.
That will bring the centre of gravity too far forward
@@MichaelThompson94 Could always have some ballast, electronics, or other stuff in a fairing ahead of the propeller...
@@MushVPeets could do, but ideally you want the weight to be minimal... It would be better to do a mid prop mount or something.
Had my coffee coming out my nose when I saw the ring separating from the propeller - and it even flew better than the glider it was intended for! xD
I’m really enjoying your videos now 🤩 A friend and I got a patent more than 20 years ago for a magnetic bearing that can be used for flywheel storage systems so we understand the challenges you face.
Please keep making cool videos 👍🏽
What slow-mo camera are you using brother?
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Awesome content! Would love to see more experimentation with flywheel energy storage :)
i was exactly trying to build this kinda stuff on www.algodoo.com/
I was thinking of other weird energy storage methods, and I was about to recommend a gravity powered plane, but..... that's just a glider isn't it.
Maybe put a tank of water in the plane and have it drip through a tiny hydroelectric dam to power the propeller? ;)
My favorite thing is when I come up with a brilliant idea for a new way of doing something but realize after spending some time on it that it's already been done... 😂
As a kid I drew up a revolutionary new design for a "flying squirrel suit" only to later realize skydivers have been using something similar for decades...
@@C.Sharpe Ahh, that's always fun! But at least, it shows that your ideas are feasible, which is reassuring :P
solid fuel rocket plane.
Toy companies are often very good at finding simple, yet effective (and cost effective) engineering solutions.
Love your back yard mate ....looks like a winner for the summer.
I'm sorry but I laughed my ass off when the first plane crashed. And then at the second time. I wanted to cheer you, but I was laughing hard...
And the you succeeded, and I was so happy for you.
Great content...
Pity that a lot of inventers have been laughed at by silly people but later they were millionairs.
@@DL6UK Please do not misunderstand me. The video is awesome, Tom is awesome. it was a smart idea. I'm not having fun because "that's foolish" or because "that's a stupid idea". I was laughing because the way the plane crashed on the ground was funny. And it remind me all the times my paper airplanes crashed right into the ground. That's juste a laugh at a comical situation, not at all a laugh on Tom "you're a fool, stop your shit".
Tom makes awesome vids, I suscribed some time ago now, and I'm almost watching all his past vids. I'm a total fan.
4:15 That sounds like plane crashing in movies
Ouch
Nice comment copying
4:16 has some meme potential with that amazing sound
You are trying a lot of things and very often with limited success, but I respect all this efforts. No one knows if thing work if there is not someone who tried them.
I give you a applause for trying.
Keep on trying hopefully you get there
Could you used the flywheel technique at the beginning of the video but make the carbon fiber into a propeller shape and use that at the front of the plane?
You definitely could make one like he made later but out of carbon fiber and steel. It sounds pretty dangerous though.
gajbooks all in the name of Science 🤣
Might be hard to get the cg right with all that mass in the front.
Maybe put the propeller in the middle of the plane?
I just posted suggesting this but giving you the up-doot so hopefully tom sees this! :-)
This is exactly how some WWII carrier aircraft were started. Crank the flywheel, drop the clutch, and start the engine with no electricity.
I believe a tiger tank is also started with a hand cranked flywheel.
@@frackcha Ever seen the original Flight of the Phoenix with jimmy Stewart? The radial engine used in that flying box car used a shot gun shell blast to spin a fly wheel that cranked the engine over. Really a unique and fascinating idea!
How I start my car when people are asleep lol (Hill roll start)
@@frackcha it was.
What about the conservation of angular momentum? Shouldn't the plane tend to pitch one way while the flywheel is slowing down?
Like the spitfire's radial engine. Actually gave it an advantage in dog fights.
I appreciate your choice to plug the sponsor at the end.
I admire your never give up attitude.
Hi Tom! Have you thought about the gyroscopic effect of the fly wheel on the stability of the plane? In the new design you switched the rotation axes of the flywheel to be the direction the plane is pointed in, so it's possible that could be stabilizing it. I'd be interested in seeing how it works with the heavy flywheel but rotated 90 so the rotation axis of rotation points in the forward direction.
Great... Now my recommended videos are going to be "Flywheel Anti-Gravity! Perpetual Motion Machine! Zero Point Energy!"
4:16
nyyyyooOOOOOOOOMMM * crunch *
Reminds me of those ring pull toy airplanes from when I was a kid, in the mid 70's. The plane was sat on a pistol grip mount that had a ring pull string that would automatically retract with a spring, and a similar ratcheting mechanism like you have made. When you pulled the string quickly, it would spin up the relatively heavy propeller and launch the plane off the ring pull and pistol grip holder , and launch it into the sky. I think they were taken off the, market because kids would launch them at each other's heads, but they sure were fun.
The spinning hoop had me burst out in laugher. Well done! :D
6:19 And she said, "Daddy, I want a hula-hoop flyer now!" (Charlie and the Chocolate Factory quote).
Next video: Turning lead into gold
You need magnetic bearings if you wanna reduce friction!
Tenacity pays off, great work! The "hula hoop" all by itself, flew beautifully.......speaking of simplicity.
You know you a good engineer when you build a literal fly-wheel
Your flywheel is gearing too slow with the propeller. Tom, you're way too smart to miss this detail. You could count your propeller RPM to determine if anything you make will fly.
I look forward to see more videos about this.
It only flew because you used a flywheel instead of a groundwheel
6:21 what the hell is that voodo magic
This guy really pushes the limits on energy transfer in an ingenious and interesting way. SUBSCRIBED
Your like a young Barnes Wallace - I'm fascinated by your range of entertaining expeiments