Are We Renting Out Our SHIPPING CONTAINER CABIN?

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  • @stanniemi7929
    @stanniemi7929 11 місяців тому +136

    I agree completely! Do not rent out your property. Protect your privacy. Merry Christmas!

  • @dewandat9222
    @dewandat9222 11 місяців тому +112

    I 1000% agree not to rent to the public. People do not respect other people's property. Save yourself the headache.

    • @mikebobier647
      @mikebobier647 11 місяців тому

      And everybody said AMEN

    • @daidavies6210
      @daidavies6210 11 місяців тому +2

      You Cant rent them out to the public, They have to have a structural engineer survey done on them first , Due to them being Steel the Electrical wiring has to be Armoured like in commercial premises, And looking at what they are doing they will not pass inspection already.

    • @ivanj.conway9919
      @ivanj.conway9919 4 місяці тому

      I knew I would see replies like this, to this topic. There is far, far, more concerning this issue than this alone. Far more.

  • @granjan252
    @granjan252 11 місяців тому +172

    Are you two for real??? Patient parents, supportive spouses, and killer handyman skills. Love watching.

    • @myspotmyrules3048
      @myspotmyrules3048 11 місяців тому +6

      They are real. If you are new to their page you will fell in love really quick.

    • @TheLiFeInPines
      @TheLiFeInPines 11 місяців тому +3

      I agree! They were the first channel i started watching on UA-cam years ago! I was hooked.

    • @Bmf214
      @Bmf214 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah my first subscription!I know knot from whence they came in terms of recommendation but it’s been great!

  • @britzel71
    @britzel71 11 місяців тому +51

    Not sure why anyone would think you planned to rent. It's always been clear this was for your family, making a dream property to escape to. It's incredible all you two have done.

    • @wm6549
      @wm6549 10 місяців тому +1

      I recall them mentioning it once themselves.

  • @Christ_on_the_River
    @Christ_on_the_River 11 місяців тому +55

    Kudos for letting your kiddos “help” at an early age. Honoring their intention while their capacity is low will pay off as their capacity grows. Every ounce of energy they put into your family’s pursuits is worthy of celebration. One day you’ll turn around and that little boy will be helping you lift something that makes both your faces turn red and your muscles spasm … and when you high-five each other after it’s over, try to remember these early days without the threat of tears. Blessings-Jeff

  • @rachelfranck5598
    @rachelfranck5598 11 місяців тому +16

    SO HAPPY YOU ARE KEEPING THE CABIN FOR YOUR FAMILY!!!! LOVE YOU ❤

  • @jollyrogerhobbies2386
    @jollyrogerhobbies2386 11 місяців тому +19

    AGREED, do NOT rent out the cabin. it would put a gps marker on the mountain property. Not only would you get the renters, it would also draw the looky loo's and people stopping by randomly "just to see". You would not have any privacy and neither would your renters. Also with trespassers you would get property damage that would end up destroying the property you hold dear. Some renters would be respectful and decent of the cabin and property but some would not. They could and would destroy all that you hold dear. Some people just want to watch the world burn. Do NOT open yourself up to that. No amount of money is worth all that headache. If you choose to do a rental property in the future, do not do it in a place that your care about. Because it will be a business venture, something that can come and go and something you can walk away from. Do not do it to something that is a part of your heart or that you hold dear.

  • @ld5714
    @ld5714 11 місяців тому +48

    Good morning Kinzie and Spencer. I feel your decision not to rent out the cabin is a good one. You found that mountan property and love it and it fits all your wants and desires...for you. Keeping it for you and family is wise IMO. Absolutely love the kids looking out at the rain in the vid, very special. Wishing you, Spencer and the kids a very Merry Christmas 🎄 Larry, Central Valley, Ca.

  • @flowrider5082
    @flowrider5082 11 місяців тому +33

    I love it when kids offer to help! It’s a caring motive by them as well as a learning experience! So precious! ❤️🇨🇦

  • @wendyrumbel4354
    @wendyrumbel4354 11 місяців тому +3

    Everyone’s looking great love to all of you. Can’t wait to see the cabin done. Hope your feeling well. God Bless your beautiful family.

  • @melodymiller5836
    @melodymiller5836 11 місяців тому +13

    You might want to consider murphy bunk beds that could fold up and give the kiddos a place to play, plus you could paint the undersides with chalkboard paint for the kids to color on.

  • @elsierodriguez1666
    @elsierodriguez1666 11 місяців тому +2

    I remember whennthey first started doing their home containers , it was only both of them , then baby girl , was born and then baby boy ❤
    And to watch them built their home with no experince and no help from no one , and watching Spencer , i learn a lot .

  • @joevolpe512
    @joevolpe512 11 місяців тому +9

    I and my partners bought a property a while back. The best advice we got was to enjoy it for a year plus before deciding on weather we would do any short term rentals. After a year, we knew we didn’t want to do that. We do let friends and family use it though.

  • @africanhoopoetours
    @africanhoopoetours 11 місяців тому +1

    All in south Africa love these two hardworking folks and their lovely kids ❤❤❤❤

  • @barrywhitlock141
    @barrywhitlock141 11 місяців тому +23

    you are both really great people with adorable children. I am glad that you are not going to rent out the container, It was good to see spencers little helpers, especially when Cam said " don't worry daddy I'll help you" that was so sweet. Have a wonderful Christmas and a very happy new year.

    • @wendy95953
      @wendy95953 11 місяців тому +1

      What do you think about giving one of your Patreons a chance to stay a weekend with you guys, or your cabin or something. It could be an annual event, and the winner is selected by drawing.

  • @peggyharris9284
    @peggyharris9284 11 місяців тому +15

    Love watching you & you are amazing parents, spouses, and people all the way around. You have a great life ahead of you!

  • @mamareed810
    @mamareed810 11 місяців тому +2

    I can remember helping my parents. You have instilled so much self worth in those 2 young ones. A feeling of importance to the family, helping, & that they are needed will be carried down to their own families..

  • @anna-mariepellett4362
    @anna-mariepellett4362 11 місяців тому +44

    🎄🎅🏼 Oh, starting off that video with the two of those children are wearing a little Santa hat. You guys are the best. I know you know that but I just like to say it out loud. And they are blessed to have you both as parents. Much love and many blessings, happy holidays, and a prosperous new year to you all.

  • @sgrvtl7183
    @sgrvtl7183 11 місяців тому +4

    Rental property can being a lot of work and concern and hassle. Glad you are keeping it for your family. With your third child, life will be plenty busy! Happy Holidays ‼💚❤

  • @TheZsuZsa123
    @TheZsuZsa123 11 місяців тому +11

    Enjoyable to watch. We let our daughter help too. When daddy was fixing stuff in or outside our home she had her own tool chest. I am a ceramic artist and she helped me even going to shows and acting as my clerk. She is 41, child of her own. Her guy built their house himself. She still has her tool chest. Somehow all that knowledge drew her to a career as a High School science teacher. All those basic skills your children are learning mean they will have a lot of independence and good choice making skills. Thanks for the videos.

  • @beverleymartin1881
    @beverleymartin1881 11 місяців тому +2

    Have a fabulous Christmas and new year, you are a family that appreciate together time because your helpers are the most precious to watch. Excited for the New Year and what surprises you have in store .

  • @sharongiesbrecht9079
    @sharongiesbrecht9079 10 місяців тому +1

    Love watching and seeing how they solve their problems together. Real team work. My husband and I have always solved our situations together and there for makes us strong as a family. You guys are doing it right.

  • @leslietarboxjr4287
    @leslietarboxjr4287 11 місяців тому +10

    I have watched you two now going to be five, from the very beginning and Spencer never ceases to amaze me. You two are so adorable together and always overcome all obstacles with grace. You are such loving and patient parents to two beautiful kids, and I know will be the same with number 3. I am wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

  • @จารถเนตรสุขพิศาล

    เด็กๆโตแล้วน่ารักจังเลย❤❤❤

  • @sandratweedale2579
    @sandratweedale2579 11 місяців тому +8

    We love your precious family including the 4 legged ones. Wish you all a very blessed Christmas. Hope the new year brings you great success, much joy and excellent health. God bless you on your journey 🥰🇨🇦

  • @weslennon3425
    @weslennon3425 11 місяців тому +15

    Love watching these guys, I wish I had recorded my build, I went with a three-story home, one story below ground, now that was an experience! But now that it's finished, the underground concrete section is double walled, and has an elevator to the other two upper floors. Lucked out by drilling a water well, it turned out to be an artesian well. I had to catch up here, while we were building and moving into our new home. Spencer, you have done an outstanding job, I mean that seriously. We do not have Natural Gas, I bought a Generac Whole Home Generator which runs off our 5,000 gallon LP gas.

  • @drevic9699
    @drevic9699 11 місяців тому +19

    We get so excited when we see a notification for Life Uncontained!! Love you guys! Have a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!

  • @lisatingley8953
    @lisatingley8953 11 місяців тому +1

    Merry Christmas and blessings for 2024!! Love you growing family 🙏🎄❤️

  • @marjohoureld8599
    @marjohoureld8599 11 місяців тому +2

    Love them like my own children, and Bear is still the center piece of the family. Be blessed.

  • @ramonadowning6102
    @ramonadowning6102 11 місяців тому +1

    Merry Christmas!!! God Bless You All!

  • @ivan.1923
    @ivan.1923 11 місяців тому +1

    Happy holidays everyone ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @MargaretCaldera
    @MargaretCaldera 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm very happy sharing their experiences. They are both talented in their own ways. 😊

  • @patchmack4469
    @patchmack4469 11 місяців тому +1

    wishing you all an amazing Christmas

  • @gilbertmercado462
    @gilbertmercado462 11 місяців тому +6

    Wow Spencer you are such a MacGyver guy always figuring work arounds way to go. Loved seeing the kids assisting you on your projects that is how they learn. I thought the new cabin for the mountain resort spot for you, your family and friends would not be a rental spot. Kendra smart move. The build continues and should be ready next spring to move it up to the mountain property. Thanks for bringing us all along on your journey and have a Very Merry Christmas. Have a great week and be blessed.

  • @maddieadams75
    @maddieadams75 11 місяців тому +1

    Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a Blessed New Year 🎄🛷🎅❤️🦌⛄️🫎🎁❄️🙏🤶

  • @ncdave4
    @ncdave4 11 місяців тому +1

    Merry Christmas to your whole family... and Blessings for the New Year..

  • @michaelwilliams7481
    @michaelwilliams7481 11 місяців тому +7

    More progress being made, at the mercy of the weather on what can be done.
    Have a great Christmas and New Year with your children & the future one. Love from Mike. ❤🌲

  • @andrewsimmons9717
    @andrewsimmons9717 11 місяців тому +11

    Looking forward to seeing what you have in store for 2024 . Have a very Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year.

  • @gayebickle1725
    @gayebickle1725 11 місяців тому +1

    Been with these guys from the start of their container home. Just looove your videos. Your cheeky personalities, your cute kids, and especially your dogs (cos I’m a dog person) 😉

  • @donnafuller3029
    @donnafuller3029 11 місяців тому +1

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all 😊

  • @moniquevelasco20
    @moniquevelasco20 11 місяців тому +5

    Love seeing the kids helping out their dad. Have a beautiful Merry Christmas!🎄🎁 Love and be safe!🤗😘❄️🇻🇪

  • @missybekind5022
    @missybekind5022 11 місяців тому +1

    I was happy to see you got some nice weather! 🌞
    Wishing you guys a Blessed 2024! 🙌 many new adventures to come! ❤

  • @sarahaugustine4185
    @sarahaugustine4185 11 місяців тому +2

    Merry Christmas, friends. I can hardly wait for the finished home. You two rock.

  • @MysteryValleyRanch
    @MysteryValleyRanch 11 місяців тому

    I can’t believe you guys have taken the time to clean out the old barn, fix any structural issues, add power, and concrete the floor as a workshop.

  • @jason4039
    @jason4039 11 місяців тому +331

    Who else loves these guys!?!???

    • @SteveV2023
      @SteveV2023 11 місяців тому +13

      Just you

    • @BORDERSSAFARISTRAVEL
      @BORDERSSAFARISTRAVEL 11 місяців тому +3

      Me😂

    • @karengossett1475
      @karengossett1475 11 місяців тому +6

      Merry Christmas Jason 🌲🎅🏼 I always look forward to your comment 😂 And yes I love them 💞

    • @jason4039
      @jason4039 11 місяців тому +3

      @@SteveV2023 there he is! Missed you man

    • @karengossett1475
      @karengossett1475 11 місяців тому +1

      @@SteveV2023oh don’t be a downer 😂

  • @phillully4472
    @phillully4472 11 місяців тому +2

    I sure do enjoy watching your journey. From non builders, to construtction inovators. Keep
    Building your dreams!

  • @zaporahboyd31
    @zaporahboyd31 11 місяців тому +1

    I love watching you guys do y'all thang. I bet living in nature like that brings a form of peace verses living in the city.

  • @Martina-vv3wk
    @Martina-vv3wk 11 місяців тому +1

    Dear lovely family, I wish you a Merry Christmas and a happy new year. Love, Martina from Germany ❤

  • @rosalynjohnson2295
    @rosalynjohnson2295 11 місяців тому +2

    It's always fun to watch you all mature and grow as a family. Your relationship and children are beautiful. When you are done with the mountain home, how about that barn? It looks dangerous and possibly snake infested. I would love to see yall improve on that. I worry whenever Spencer goes in there, but I am so happy when he comes out. WHEW.

  • @BORDERSSAFARISTRAVEL
    @BORDERSSAFARISTRAVEL 11 місяців тому +13

    WATCHING LIVE FROM 🇰🇪 KENYA 🇰🇪

  • @lizdelagarza8025
    @lizdelagarza8025 11 місяців тому

    I DO been watching FOREVER!!!
    GREAT PEOPLE!!♥️🎄♥️

  • @elainejuan2563
    @elainejuan2563 11 місяців тому +15

    That's a great decision, my family and I would certainly love our privacy as well!!! By the way, can you please share how you were able to find your mountain property? Is the a website or websites to look into mountain properties? My husband and I are also interested!Thanks in advance!

  • @francisbaker9366
    @francisbaker9366 11 місяців тому

    Hi, hope your having a great Christmas.
    When the container is being moved up to the mountain I would suggest you remove the vent and weatherproof the opening its just lending itself to be damaged during transit.

  • @markstevens1729
    @markstevens1729 11 місяців тому

    On the door trim: two pieces of smart trim, milled to half of your needed width, biscuit join to bond, butt joint is pre-sealed with the exterior glue, done.

  • @johnlegere478
    @johnlegere478 11 місяців тому

    Real neat idea with the magnets holding up the cloth to cover the window❤

  • @pathamm5834
    @pathamm5834 11 місяців тому +2

    I don’t blame you for not renting out your cabin, not in today’s world.
    Unfortunately too many people disrespect others property plus you would have to pack up personal stuff every time you rented it out .
    Plus one fire not properly doused and you could lose all , trees, home and everything you worked so hard to build.
    Enjoy your getaway house

  • @pamelastokes2964
    @pamelastokes2964 11 місяців тому +1

    I hope y'all had a wonderful Christmas 🎄 💓! Y'all do fantastic things with everything and everyone you touch! Have a safe and Happy New Year 😊!

  • @TeresaOneill-h2m
    @TeresaOneill-h2m 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, as always, for sharing! A good call to keep your mountain get-a-way a special private place, in my estimation. The insurance of renting it out might have been high. ENJOY!! ❤

  • @elaineriley4863
    @elaineriley4863 11 місяців тому +1

    I haven't seen you guys in a long time. It's so nice to see you and your children. Congratulations

  • @Druac
    @Druac 11 місяців тому +5

    Quality videos…you do a great job with the editing…and telling a story.

  • @lentongrovetrust5201
    @lentongrovetrust5201 11 місяців тому

    Wishing you all a merry Christmas and may 2024 bring you all happiness, laughter and joy.

  • @dreamerjs
    @dreamerjs 11 місяців тому +7

    Even on the road I see this notification I b line to it! Love all the kiddos! The gate with the 3 cubs so cute! I see why hiding it till y'all announced! 🌸✌️💜

  • @jeffreylocke8808
    @jeffreylocke8808 11 місяців тому

    Years ago my uncle and my dad developed a living area near the strip pit we boated and fished on. I completely understand why you all want to have your mountain oasis.

  • @hmt702
    @hmt702 11 місяців тому +5

    I’m glad you’re not renting it out. It’s what you’ve always wanted! So excited to follow along this journey. We consider y’all friends. We tell everyone about “Our friends on UA-cam!!” 😂

  • @cynthiawilliamson5905
    @cynthiawilliamson5905 11 місяців тому +2

    Happy to hear that one of those dreams that y’all had has come true!❤

  • @Jazz1959
    @Jazz1959 11 місяців тому

    I have been watching you from the start. Your family has come a long way. I agree about not renting. You don’t want someone trashing your place you worked so hard on.

  • @dondamon443
    @dondamon443 11 місяців тому +2

    Merry Christmas to your whole family. Spenser is the Man. Figuring out little things that won't become big things. I also think keeping the cabin as a vacation location will be the smart move. You always run the risk of some "renter", creating a situation. The trim around the door, is a nice touch, a little shiny, but looks nice. See you next year. Happy New Year too. 2024!!

  • @GrettaThol
    @GrettaThol 11 місяців тому +1

    I can't wait for you guys to re do the barn so we see more of your work. I feel like I'm growing with yall since the start. I feel like I live there too. Lol

  • @shonie0124
    @shonie0124 11 місяців тому

    Things are coming together so great and congrats to you guys on everything and your dream property.
    I’ve got the mountains in the palms of my hands. . So I get it.

  • @PegAMurphy
    @PegAMurphy 11 місяців тому

    happy holidays y'all the lil mountain cabin is looking great I know y'all are going to have lots of memories started in there also it's great having a change of scenery every now and then 💖

  • @dcampbell4079
    @dcampbell4079 11 місяців тому

    Have a wonderful Christmas guys. I will be forever grateful for the joy your family brings me and my family.

  • @geoffcharlton2711
    @geoffcharlton2711 11 місяців тому +2

    you haven't mention your pond for a long time just wandering if the water is any clearer now since you put the pump in?

  • @TheHavasu_77
    @TheHavasu_77 11 місяців тому

    I hope that you all have a wonderful and magical very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year! 🎉🎄✨❤️🥰

  • @markoconnell804
    @markoconnell804 11 місяців тому

    When you get it to the property build some amazing patio/porch/something like that

  • @joleenleroux5279
    @joleenleroux5279 11 місяців тому +2

    Love your videos. It's my weekly joy to watch you guys create this amazing dream and to see your family grow. Blessing for this Christmas season.

  • @debbiecustard5225
    @debbiecustard5225 11 місяців тому +1

    We have been watching your videos since the beginning you are definitely one of our favorites. We love you and wish you a blessed Christmas.❤❤❤❤❤

  • @wileycoyotesr8623
    @wileycoyotesr8623 11 місяців тому

    You are so fortunate having two brutes to help carry foam board. 😄 👍👍👍

  • @deesmith3207
    @deesmith3207 11 місяців тому +1

    Just started watching you and have been binge watching to catch up. You guys are a riot to watch. I laugh and learn at the same time! Just want to thank you for all you do! ❤

  • @tonycummings5427
    @tonycummings5427 11 місяців тому

    Hey friends, I don’t blame you for not wanting to rent your place out, its not all a simple thing to rent out your property. My Mom and Dad rented out houses years ago and its a constant hassle. Use the property and new cabin for your own use and enjoy it for yourselves. Oh yea I told you a while back when the kidos was just getting to walk that they would be luring how to help Spencer to build things , and you see ? They are beginning to be a lot of help. Lol !! I love to watch them want to help Spencer. Give Beau and Cam a big hug for me and tell Bear and Io I said Hi. God bless you all. Ps. Can't wait to meet the new addition to the family !!

  • @davidbingham7404
    @davidbingham7404 11 місяців тому +4

    Kinzie & Spencer great video , love seeing the children helping Dad on the project's around the cabin. Have a wonderful Christmas day together on the homestead. David B., Utah. ♥♥♥.

  • @merklingassoc
    @merklingassoc 11 місяців тому +1

    Lol While you were talking about the framing and the notch you needed to cut, all could think was, WOW, the ceilings are going to be so low. The next frame is u standing on a gal bucket. 😂😂😂😂
    Mackenzie, the way you get tickled by everything around you, your laughter is so heartwarming.
    Especially when it's about the kiddos. You two are such great parents. ❤❤❤
    Wishing you and your wonderful family a very Merry Christmas and a safe and joyous New Year. ☃️🎄🎅🤶🦌🎶👼⭐🎉🥂🍾❤️🤗

  • @phyllisbrostrom7348
    @phyllisbrostrom7348 11 місяців тому

    Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year ❤

  • @lukecasper3670
    @lukecasper3670 11 місяців тому

    Looks like the old barn could use some love.

  • @saintracheljarodm.holy-kay2560
    @saintracheljarodm.holy-kay2560 11 місяців тому +1

    Making progress, have a Merry Christmas and God bless amen.

  • @janmurphree152
    @janmurphree152 11 місяців тому

    The kids...then the dog...so cute....love yall....Merry Christmas!!!

  • @edmo43
    @edmo43 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for the new episode. Good decision to keep the unit as a recreation cabin for the family to enjoy. I wish you, Spencer and the children a very Merry Christmas. 🎄 🎅

  • @johnrogers6291
    @johnrogers6291 11 місяців тому

    Wishing you all a Blessed Christmas Season.❤

  • @Hollybank5
    @Hollybank5 11 місяців тому

    Everything is coming together ❤!!!
    Merry Christmas to all of you !!! 🎄💕

  • @adriancox-thesantjordigolf3646
    @adriancox-thesantjordigolf3646 11 місяців тому

    Your children are delightful I hope they have a lovely christmas and you take care.

  • @zaz4667
    @zaz4667 11 місяців тому +1

    Keep showing up for the builds! Keep coming back for the music!

  • @macsterguy
    @macsterguy 11 місяців тому +2

    Spencer = top quality craftsman!!
    I think it would be great to use the PVC anywhere possible.
    Merry Christmas!🎄🎁

  • @rotaryperfection
    @rotaryperfection 11 місяців тому

    Try to use an adhesion promoter spray when painting plastics. Keeps the paint from pealing over time. We use this in the automotive world to paint the plastic front and rear bumpers on cars.

  • @juanitawebb1703
    @juanitawebb1703 11 місяців тому

    Good for y'all....keeping this for yourselves. Truly admire you for that! Merry Christmas!

  • @donnamullins2089
    @donnamullins2089 11 місяців тому

    Wishing you and you family a very Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year.

  • @teresaslovingcare4444
    @teresaslovingcare4444 11 місяців тому

    Merry Christmas to all of you!!! Thank you for all the videos you put out each year. I live vicariously through you. All the best in the year ahead! 😍🥰❤🎅🤶🌲

  • @mikerobbins5049
    @mikerobbins5049 11 місяців тому

    I don’t blame you a bit about not renting out the Mountain Cabin. I have a small cabin on my old farm that I hunt out of and I wouldn’t want other people using the place. For one, I’d have to have insurance that I don’t have now and another thing is that I wouldn’t be able to leave a lot of my stuff there that I do now...

  • @Mayasoflya
    @Mayasoflya 11 місяців тому +5

    Love that you two are living your dreams! the kids ADORBS!!

  • @kdjat
    @kdjat 11 місяців тому

    Been watching since day one, watching your wonderful family grow! As a painter and decorator recommend you fill the drill holes around your window and door trim, will stop the screw heads rusting or rot developing if rain sits in there over time! Merry Xmas!

  • @Siankhaslam
    @Siankhaslam 11 місяців тому

    Well I for one am glad they're not giving up the farm property and are using the cabin build as a holiday home for themselves and eventually family and friends, I know kenz didn't use the actual words "holiday home", but you get that it was implied

  • @waylonhartwell
    @waylonhartwell 11 місяців тому

    What about angling the vent downward on the outside so that the pipe will have a little bit of an upward angle on the inside earlier so that your event pipe won't have such a big build-out on the inside of the ceiling. I know it's not how the vent is typically supposed to be installed, but having it tilted downwards on the outside will angle that pipe on the inside up a little bit and might give you an inch of clearance so that when you have to do your build out on it, you'll have to just do the build out enough to cover it part of the pipe instead of all of the plastic pipe before getting to the elbow. Sending it to the Erv