As an owner of a resin head with resin eyes I agree with most of what is said. The head does heat up a fair bit and I tend to open the mouth to get some airflow when I can. The advantage of the resin base means that vision isn't that bad with the resin eyes however, because the tear ducts are very close to my eyes so I actually have some of the best vision I've seen with fursuit heads. No issue with a large muzzle blocking half my sight either. That said, this style works really well for realistic suits more then other designs.
as a previous resin base suiter i will never go back to resin unless it display i couldnt see anything i did the fursuit parade almost blind and that was bad cause i ended upwolking almost into the rail cause i didnt have a handler but my advice is if you wanna resin base PLEASE GET A HANDLER IF NEW TO IT dont do what i did
Gaming Furry perhaps more an issue with the maker? I mean that varies a lot I guess. My head is done by voodoo delicious. They're great at realistic heads but not skilled at the body parts.
I actually would love a kemono suit since it looks perfect for my fursona. Though they would cost alot of money, barely little ventilation, fogging of the eyes and maybe hard to walk in since some have thick legs but it would be worth it to have
Leo Kitsune some kemono makers like kemono-cube have made anti-fogging eyes. Plus more kemono makers are making moving jaws on foam bases so ventilation is better.
That's why I let my commissioners know they _don't_ need to have covered eyes and can request fan(s) if they want. I build with foam and put vents in my heads
You inspired me to make my very first fursuit! She's a foam bucket head style! I'll be going to my first furry con at anthro northwest, and it'll be my birthday the Saturday of the con! I'm hype!
It all depends on what are you gonna do in your suit. are you gonna move alot? are you gonna talk most of the time? Also are you more about the price or uniqueness. :)
Pocari Roo hey pocari! first of all, how to i find 3d eyes that will fit the resin base im purchasing? or how do i make them? 2nd: my giant yellow peep plush says hi >:3
Another con for expanding foam heads is it's really hard to get glue to stay. I'm working on a suit right now with a DVC headbase, and I found that the surface is really smooth, which makes dry hot glue slide off. You have to really scuff up the surface to get anything to stick.
AdrexuJellybean I've never made a fursuit head before, but I've done some other handywork, and to get glue or paint to stay on a smooth surface you'll probably have to go over it with sandpaper first
What about the suits that the wearer uses their own eyes? They’re also relatively new and pretty cool in my opinion, also the vision is better because it is your own eyes lol
They've been around for a long time actually, they're just not very popular cuz a lot of people found them creepy. I'm glad they're becoming a bit more mainstream now! I had to leave them out of this video because it's still a niche, and this vid was getting way too long. I talked about them in my 5 cool furry things vid tho!
Pocari Roo I didn’t know they’ve been around for a while, probably didn’t know about them because not a lot of people use them but makes sense you didn’t put them in the video! Keep up the amazing work love your videos so much! 💖
Yooo!! Congrats on getting enough to go to an American con!! I know how much you've been wanting to go to one so I'm happy you've finally met that dream! I'm going to MFF as well! It's my first time going to a BIG con and hopefully I'll have my suit by then so I won't be as nervous lmao.
Mff was my first big con as well it was so fun! The best con i went to!! I was still nervous there in suit cuz well everyone is so much taller than me especially in the fursuit games with everyone pushing eachother but i started pushing them to XD IT WAS SO FUN.
You're so bubbly and fun and engaging and I love your videos so much! I've learned so much from your channel over time, and your characters are absolutely gorgeous. Keep up the amazing work !!
I'm really happy that you mentioned the 3D printing method! Sadly, I don't have the setup yet to use it, but once I can, I'd really love to try it! And, seeing from one teacher of mine that has a 3D printer, I personally think that, as long as you're not dropping it from another story and you have your settings figured out, it can be much stronger than resin. Especially seeing as you'll go less for quality control and more for strength and amount of triangles. At least that's what I've gotten from what I've heard... But either way, I've actually done a head (though, of course, in foam because it's a good starter) and a few other parts, and I was wondering if anyone wanted to see!
Seems interesting to me because they can be edited and previewed without needing to make a new one, allowing you to get everything just right before you print.
Wow! These techniques are really amazing! These helped me so much for my future fursuit company, Friendly Fursuits! The reason i’m starting a company is because of you inspiring me! Thank you for being there for me even At the age of 9!
I'm actually a young fur, claustrophobic, and overheat easily, so if you're like me and have a depressing fear of fursuit heads, read on! I love the furry fandom and want to cosplay, but due to my weird body, I can't have a head. So I came up with a new idea! A new head! Just use makeup, a wig, and ears! First, paint your face and neck the colors and pattern of your character. Then, buy or make their ears, and buy a wig and a hairnet for the back of your head. Glue the ears to the wig, (or sew) and then put the hairnet on, THEN the wig! Lastly, either paint your neck or get soneyhing to hide it. I'm gonna use a bandana! Sorry for the random DIY comment :3
I personally like 3d eyes but I like the rest plus I'm thinking of making my own way to make the head and if your parents say no to being a furry I'll support you :)
Henlo Pocari! Just wanted to say that you have been a huge inspiration for me in the fandom when it comes to the basics, like handling, scammers, and pretty much anything that is related to furries. (I may or may not have referred to The Bottle as The Furry Wiki by a Blue Kangaroo OwO) Have fun at MFF, and keep up the content! Also, I’ll probably be busy working on a quadsuit and killing my back, while also knowing to get the ground well.
we've recently started watching and we just got to say, we love your videos, congrats on being able to make it to America for a con \0/ we also love the suit, and, you inspired us to go looking into getting our own suit, your character is just too adorable, you just earned a new subscriber ^w^
I feel like the cutest fursuit head, in my opinion, would be the foamy one. I just love how soft they look and feel, and I feel like the fact theyre oversized slightly is just.. adorable XD
I am an owner of a few suits, one is a resin skull base. His name is shark, and he’s a skull which means he’s not even protected by even a little bit of fur. Shark also inspires little ones to also get a skull, and since they don’t know how to deal with resin I see a lot of pictures of them breaking the teeth of their suit. Which upsets me a little bit. Next is my lavafox, spider. She’s way easier to see out of. (Since sharks eyes are completely black and hard to see out of) anyway, spider is a lot more loved by the normies, since she isn’t as scary as a skeleton. And that’s my two suits, I have one more but they are in the mail right now so I don’t know anything about them. This is a bit random but I feel like I need to say something.
Thank you for making this video! I was just about to make a mesh suit head, and I have now strayed away from that path and changed to a foam base. Say hi to Kiba for me!
i use canvas mesh, but i also got glue foam to it. instead of hot gluing the mesh together i use yarn and overlap it, i basically sew them together. my very first head i made is about 2-3 years old and its been through a lot >> and its still keeping together. i put some foam padding to prevent the canvas from touching. I thought i would clarify that hot gluing the canvas isn't stable and can cause injury but sewing it together makes it stronger. there are also different strengths of mesh. as a maker i thought i should inform you. I make kemono style fursuits i love your videos XD
I have a 3D printed base from sparkycando. Here in New Zealand she sold a small handful to our small community. It's extremely light and a little brittle. The moving jaw is very effective! There is defiantly a few cons but so far I've really enjoyed working with them.
Just be warned with closed vs open cell foam: closed firmer and open is squishier. However, open cell is excelent for ventilation as air permiates easily but closed cell is literaly the stuff home insulation is made from as it traps gasses in the cells, preventing the primary method of heat transfer through gasses (convection). Note that expanding foam is closed cell. Edit: with 3D printing you can have issues with delamination due to small repetitive impacts or thermal cycling ( cold closet -> hot head -> cold closet -> hot head...). An interesting developement is Ninjaflex filiment (basicly 3D printable rubber); it is very good at absorbing impacts and is very hard to delaminate. The downside is that it is VERY flexible, like colapses under it's own weight flexible; this would make it extremly hard to design a practical head with a purly Ninjaflex base. A multi-nozzle printer or a 'cut and connect' feeder could combine the benifits of ridgid filliments and Ninjaflex but it would still be a pain to design a practical hybrid base.
Awesome video! Never knew there were so many different head types! The info about the moving jaws, the eyes, and kemono suits was great too. Very informative and well put together overall. It was really well done. Keep up the great work!
Even though I’ve been a fursuit maker for a couple years now I’m only just making my own personal suit. I’ve made the decision to sacrifice ventilation by making it off a resin base and giving him kemono eyes. Wish me luck. I’m gonna be installing a lot of fans.
Cute and anime: I'm dying but I look amazing Toony/semi-toony: I look like a lovable cartoon and I can breath Realistic: kinda creepy, and I can't see but I look cool
you forgot neck vision! often used for quad suits they're also common in toony or realistic suits which are tall species such as alpacas or giraffes. A mesh that is similar colour to the fur is used, but Beastcub uses collars to disguise the mesh and it looks awesome
Yea, going by this toony would be my choice of suit/head. Thanks for that :3 Though even with the possible issues, I'd still go for a kemono suit. Any of this though would probably never be anytime soon- gotta work on that budgeting thing of course before planning on getting any kind of suit (or high priced expense in general) first.
The only head I've made was from a craft foam (a little thicker than regular foamies), and it was close enough to my real head to make a moving jaw. I don't know if it would be durable enough for some things, but I used it for a bird, Tokoyami from My Hero Academia, and it works.
Thanks for making this, Pocari! I've got a cosplay head with a working jaw that I made myself - he's my first - but I quickly learnt the ventilation sucks. When it comes time to build my fursona's head, this will be a big help. Thanks so much, and have fun at Midwest for us who can't afford to go. If you see Zombunny over there, give her a hug and let her know it's from me!
How fortunate that you're making all these Fursuit related videos, Comrade Pocari! I'm currently saving up for a Fursuit from DandyLions, and your Pros and Cons are really helping me focus on what kind of suit I'd like! ^w^
I wanted a cheap suit and wanted to make it myself so thanks for the help! I also am young so I want a cheap suit so I can feel the experience but not waste any money.
I'm hoping to have my fursuit finished before MFF. 80 hour workweek sucks. I'd love to hug you and get your thoughts on my first fursuit attempt :D (doing a muscle wolf character. Not my fursona. Blue minky plush fur for the experimentation. Figured it'd help with heating issues and my budget! Since ya know... I got like 10 yards of it for $30... ) Right now the only thing I need to finish are the hands, feet and tail. The upper body took forever to do. fabric fusion> sewed foam onto a compression shirt/pants and then used elastic thread to attach the fur :3
Another technique is to model the head in 3d software then "unwrap" the polygonal mesh to a flat surface that can be cut out of foam. The edges are then glued back together to re-create the 3D form. The result is really light weight (so great for oversized heads) and not nearly as stuffy as a carved foam head while being able to take on any style you can imagine. It's also soft, and not prone to being brittle like resin and 3d printed materials. Resin heads can be patched if needed when there's a crack: drill out the ends of the crack to relieve stress, roughen the surface, bring the edges together (more holes and carpet thread seems to work) and cover with epoxy resin. I'd suggest two other categories: Rarr suits (designed to be, in part at least, to be horrifying) and mask-style heads which are much less built up than regular fursuit heads and tend to be of the use-your-own-eyes style. My Caitian partial uses this technique and is basically a stretchy antron/muppet fleece balaclava with prosthetic style forms for the nose and mouth and latex treated cardboard ears: www.furaffinity.net/view/14870494/ Super easy to transport and wear!
I was hoping you would get to the style of heads that use the wearer's eyes when you got to the realistic category, like MagpieBone's heads. I'd still like to know what you think about that style of head.
As a Kemono suit owner I can vouch for what pocari is saying :3 there are ways to help prevent fogging and makers are trying to make them more breathable by adding spots that are Directly open to fur rather than be solid foam Like mine. My wife Kitti has two heads from the same maker, ones of the newer style and one is the old one like mine :3 My head does however, have Big holes in the ears for ventilation as well as the small mouth. I do fog up within about 5 minutes at con. Going to have fans installed in my ear holes at AC and will update with more info after trying it out! Also we will be at MFF as well :D I may even have my MFL suit if I'm lucky and they catch up on all the work they have in front of them :D *crosses fingers* Any questions or concerns feel free to ask :D
are kemono fursuits really too hot? how much on average does one cost? if you can answer me, i would be happy. thanks for sharing the information is very helpful!
I’m a young furry starting out on making my first fur suit head. I didn’t know what to choose but this video definitely helped at ton! I’m going to go with a foam head and toony styles. Thanks for this! :3
As someone who dabbles in fursuit making let me say your positivity is not only refreshing, but a bit infectious. Thank you so much for sharing it with all of us!
There is a new eye type: digital. You can thank Adafruit for making it easier, but in a nutshell, the eyes are projected on a screen powered by either a micro controller or a micro processor (like a Raspberry Pi). The pro is the eye can be digitally refined to look anyway you want and if done right can be given massive level customization (emotions, blinking, color change, effects, etc). The obvious con is that vision is just as bad as kimono eyes, the eyes only work as long as you have some kind of power source (which if you use the same battery as your fan, means you have less time for that), and the fact they're very complicated if you do not have technical know how. While Adafruit's tutorial DOES help explain things, for a normal fursuit maker, it will be full of head scratching moments.
10:00 Pocari: "But... at least you look really cute while you're dying!" My brain: 'Here! Have an image of someone making a cute kawii face while bleeding out.' My traumatized, and desensitized self: * Laughing so hard my dad comes upstairs wondering what the problem is. *
sure have! I talked about use-your-own-eyes suits in my "5 cool furry things" video. I left it out of this one cuz it's a bit of a niche and this video was getting far too long ahah
Despite the fact that I could probably never get a suit for Cosmo (mainly for design and financial reasons), I really loved this two part series. Your vids are really dope, and I always look forward to them!
For kemono eyes, I like to make them openable from the back with velcro so you can access the back of the plastic and apply zclear on it so that it doesn't fog.
This really eases my anxiety about making suits for others. I feel like all I ever hear from others is "this is how a suits supposed to be and if it's not exactly like this your a scammer" and it terrifies me. I never know how creative I'm allowed to get. The fact that u say "hey this kinda suit typicallu has this issue and some people still like it anyway and it's kinda expected" makes the world feel so much closer. Thanks
I have a 3D printer, and while I do agree that there's a steep learning curve, it could still be worth the price if you use it for other things. I got mine for $150 US, and with an 8x8 inch build plate, I could print out a base in less than 6 pieces, then glue them together. You can also help guard against smash related injuries with a layer of regular towel fabric, or some other breathable fabric with reasonable padding. And with it being so cheap to make, you can just print out a new one if you ever need to. Also if you print out the pieces and just make them interlocking instead of glued, not only would it make the chances of it surviving a punch to the face much greater, but you could easily salvage the head by printing the 1 or 2 panels that broke.
7:54 this is my fursuit head type! It actually what I’m using now that I have the materials and money 😂. I LOVE this type, as it can be relatively cheaper than foam, and the hard part is done for ya! LOVE IT
Currently making my first suit and I accidentally made a working moving jaw with a Expanding Foam and Elastic and it's tough as anything!! I'm so happy about his Honored Mistake!
Me and my friend (she’s really short) we are only in elementary school and we’re furrys and my class found out because I told one of my other friend that me and my short friend are furry and my friend started cringing soooooo hard! I was sad because she was judging me about being a furry but me and my short friend are getting paws and tails and ears for Hallowen and wearing it to school so don’t cringe about your friends that are furrys they will get revenge on Hallowen by hanging out with you with their fursuit on!
I have a 3D printed with partial foam padding (bolt and elasticated jaw) which sports one way eyes. (similar stuff to interrogation room windows) It's still in the process of being built but I can't wait til I'm finally able to wear it.
Something I always mention when 3D printing is brought up: in the USA, if you are in a relatively urban/populated area, your local library headquarters may well have a 3D printer that you will be able to use by just paying for the filament used! My sister works at the headquarters library for a relatively small rural city and they have a 3D printer so it's more common than you might think, and most librarians are massive nerds who won't mind if you bring in some furry-related model to print out. Their technology-focused librarian on staff should be able to help you when it comes to figuring out how to work 3d printers or help you find resources to learn about the modeling for it as well! A lot of people don't realize, but to be a full librarian you need a master's degree, which involves mostly learning how to look up and find information efficiently, so if you ever need some help at the start of learning something and don't know where to turn, your local librarian is very qualified and eager to help you!
I've been making my fursuit heads out of darice plastic canvas sheets. once I cut into strips I use small wire ties to keep it in place, then I use white duck tape along with some plastic glue to hold it in place. then the rest is all foam and fur work. I'm also glade that I'm not the only one to use kickboxing helmets😋.
Good info in this one! One type of head I don't see much about is neck vision heads. I know Beastcub does really good ones, but I can't think of any other makers off the top of my head. They're really good for creatures like horses or gazelles that have long necks to really sell the illusion, and I feel like they would have pretty good vision and ventilation!
I'm so glad you talked about eyes, since they're gonna be SO important. I won't have ears or anything else to look at, since I'm making a ball python, so I need to NAIL the eyes.
hows it going your video was very informative. I am a beginner at making my own head and the information you gave helped a lot on designing my character. keep doing what you do you are awesome
Once I'm finished with my current craft project I think I'm gonna try out making myself a foam head mini partial also I have a few ideas of how to improve a couple of problems with foam heads. Peripheral vision, hearing, air flow ect it may fail but worth a shot.
Oh, do I agree about the squinty eyes. Been rocking them on my kitsune here for about 7 years now...and I still find it hard as hell to see where I'm going with his head on XD
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As an owner of a resin head with resin eyes I agree with most of what is said. The head does heat up a fair bit and I tend to open the mouth to get some airflow when I can. The advantage of the resin base means that vision isn't that bad with the resin eyes however, because the tear ducts are very close to my eyes so I actually have some of the best vision I've seen with fursuit heads. No issue with a large muzzle blocking half my sight either.
That said, this style works really well for realistic suits more then other designs.
as a previous resin base suiter i will never go back to resin unless it display i couldnt see anything i did the fursuit parade almost blind and that was bad cause i ended upwolking almost into the rail cause i didnt have a handler but my advice is if you wanna resin base PLEASE GET A HANDLER IF NEW TO IT dont do what i did
i am also the new owner of the kaylakritterz suit
Dalfox Fennec my eyes are so small and fur keeps getting in my mouth and where I can see even if I brush it
Gaming Furry perhaps more an issue with the maker? I mean that varies a lot I guess. My head is done by voodoo delicious. They're great at realistic heads but not skilled at the body parts.
Dalfox Fennec I actually bought mine off a website called vat19.com for 60$
There's a bunch of art in the background, but the most amazing piece of art is right in the middle. :D
Yea poocari move over so I can see the amazing pieces of art
That’s cute dude :)
Yay I’m so early-
NOPE JK ITS FROM 9 MONTHS AGO XD
I just checked to see which art piece was in the middle. And then I realised what you meant. That was nice.
Reese Elf THEY WERE CALLING “POO”CARI A MASTERPIECE!
Who else sees Pocari as like a big sister in the Furry community 😊
Me kinda
Yasss
somewhat artistic She's the fandom's cool gay aunt.
me
Me
9:57
Pocari: "So you can't see, you can breathe, but at least you look really cute while you're dying"
Me: "That's all I've ever wanted in life"
Lol
I actually would love a kemono suit since it looks perfect for my fursona. Though they would cost alot of money, barely little ventilation, fogging of the eyes and maybe hard to walk in since some have thick legs but it would be worth it to have
Leo Kitsune some kemono makers like kemono-cube have made anti-fogging eyes. Plus more kemono makers are making moving jaws on foam bases so ventilation is better.
I cant do them because I live in florida so its always humid here.
That's why I let my commissioners know they _don't_ need to have covered eyes and can request fan(s) if they want. I build with foam and put vents in my heads
What is your fursona? I'm curious!
You might even say its purfect
13:42 (Con: Scares kids)
It is more of a pro if you don't want kids hugging you.
Haha true!
True
Also I can imagine you getting fewer weird looks when fursuiting during Halloween if your costume is a bit 'werewolfy' :)
You inspired me to make my very first fursuit! She's a foam bucket head style! I'll be going to my first furry con at anthro northwest, and it'll be my birthday the Saturday of the con! I'm hype!
karasu hoozuki I’m going to ANW too! I’d love to meet you :)
myself too!
What's the name
Hope it was built well!
karasu hoozuki That’s the style I used, I now have my own species
Ooo heeeeyyyy derrrrrr
zomgggg who let this nerd innn
Heyyyy
SPARKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love you sparkyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.... YOUR JEX SUIT IS SOOOOO AMAZING
Ello
It all depends on what are you gonna do in your suit. are you gonna move alot? are you gonna talk most of the time? Also are you more about the price or uniqueness. :)
Absolutely! That's why I lined out as much as I could, so you can judge for yourself what is best for what you wanna do c: everyone is different!
Pocari Roo hey pocari! first of all, how to i find 3d eyes that will fit the resin base im purchasing? or how do i make them?
2nd: my giant yellow peep plush says hi >:3
Another con for expanding foam heads is it's really hard to get glue to stay. I'm working on a suit right now with a DVC headbase, and I found that the surface is really smooth, which makes dry hot glue slide off. You have to really scuff up the surface to get anything to stick.
AdrexuJellybean I've never made a fursuit head before, but I've done some other handywork, and to get glue or paint to stay on a smooth surface you'll probably have to go over it with sandpaper first
Could you maybe use sandpaper?
Oh, sorry I thought someone didn't say that already
What about the suits that the wearer uses their own eyes? They’re also relatively new and pretty cool in my opinion, also the vision is better because it is your own eyes lol
They've been around for a long time actually, they're just not very popular cuz a lot of people found them creepy. I'm glad they're becoming a bit more mainstream now! I had to leave them out of this video because it's still a niche, and this vid was getting way too long. I talked about them in my 5 cool furry things vid tho!
Pocari Roo I didn’t know they’ve been around for a while, probably didn’t know about them because not a lot of people use them but makes sense you didn’t put them in the video! Keep up the amazing work love your videos so much! 💖
Big Pee it’s what’s used with chewbaca
I use that, but I have a paper head ;-;
They only really work with realistic, cuz toony needs toony eyes. Also super creepy :/
Yooo!! Congrats on getting enough to go to an American con!! I know how much you've been wanting to go to one so I'm happy you've finally met that dream!
I'm going to MFF as well! It's my first time going to a BIG con and hopefully I'll have my suit by then so I won't be as nervous lmao.
Mff was my first big con as well it was so fun! The best con i went to!! I was still nervous there in suit cuz well everyone is so much taller than me especially in the fursuit games with everyone pushing eachother but i started pushing them to XD IT WAS SO FUN.
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Wait where is MFF at
You're so bubbly and fun and engaging and I love your videos so much! I've learned so much from your channel over time, and your characters are absolutely gorgeous. Keep up the amazing work !!
5:57 hello i see you in the corner there.
furfear ?
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Paws & Claws Creations Leilani oh.
PEEKABOO
I thought I was the only one!
this is maaaaybe the earliest I've been to your video and I just wanna let ya know you're SUPER cool and one of the best suiters in the fandom imo
Heck yes
I'm really happy that you mentioned the 3D printing method! Sadly, I don't have the setup yet to use it, but once I can, I'd really love to try it! And, seeing from one teacher of mine that has a 3D printer, I personally think that, as long as you're not dropping it from another story and you have your settings figured out, it can be much stronger than resin. Especially seeing as you'll go less for quality control and more for strength and amount of triangles. At least that's what I've gotten from what I've heard... But either way, I've actually done a head (though, of course, in foam because it's a good starter) and a few other parts, and I was wondering if anyone wanted to see!
Seems interesting to me because they can be edited and previewed without needing to make a new one, allowing you to get everything just right before you print.
Wow! These techniques are really amazing! These helped me so much for my future fursuit company, Friendly Fursuits! The reason i’m starting a company is because of you inspiring me! Thank you for being there for me even At the age of 9!
I'm actually a young fur, claustrophobic, and overheat easily, so if you're like me and have a depressing fear of fursuit heads, read on!
I love the furry fandom and want to cosplay, but due to my weird body, I can't have a head. So I came up with a new idea! A new head! Just use makeup, a wig, and ears! First, paint your face and neck the colors and pattern of your character. Then, buy or make their ears, and buy a wig and a hairnet for the back of your head. Glue the ears to the wig, (or sew) and then put the hairnet on, THEN the wig! Lastly, either paint your neck or get soneyhing to hide it. I'm gonna use a bandana!
Sorry for the random DIY comment :3
Okay, I’ve figured out my suit/head type!
- Mini partial
- foam carved head
- 2d eyes
- toony
Now if only I was allowed to “be a furry”...
Are you allowed now?
Why wouldn't you allowed? It is such a creative hobby?
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I personally like 3d eyes but I like the rest plus I'm thinking of making my own way to make the head and if your parents say no to being a furry I'll support you :)
Can’t help but go “aww”
When you did the expressions
Henlo Pocari! Just wanted to say that you have been a huge inspiration for me in the fandom when it comes to the basics, like handling, scammers, and pretty much anything that is related to furries. (I may or may not have referred to The Bottle as The Furry Wiki by a Blue Kangaroo OwO) Have fun at MFF, and keep up the content!
Also, I’ll probably be busy working on a quadsuit and killing my back, while also knowing to get the ground well.
we've recently started watching and we just got to say, we love your videos, congrats on being able to make it to America for a con \0/ we also love the suit, and, you inspired us to go looking into getting our own suit, your character is just too adorable, you just earned a new subscriber ^w^
Thank you, it's very helpful. (Hope you are having a lovely day)
dark_lunar_dragon ....comment made 18 hours ago?
RAVEN probably a patron
Jesus Crist ah makes sense
Yeah, I am a patron, sorry for confusing you
I feel like the cutest fursuit head, in my opinion, would be the foamy one. I just love how soft they look and feel, and I feel like the fact theyre oversized slightly is just.. adorable XD
This was so helpful! I use dino/raptor masks and then I put foam on top so then it's like your head but the mouth moves!
I am an owner of a few suits, one is a resin skull base. His name is shark, and he’s a skull which means he’s not even protected by even a little bit of fur. Shark also inspires little ones to also get a skull, and since they don’t know how to deal with resin I see a lot of pictures of them breaking the teeth of their suit. Which upsets me a little bit.
Next is my lavafox, spider. She’s way easier to see out of. (Since sharks eyes are completely black and hard to see out of) anyway, spider is a lot more loved by the normies, since she isn’t as scary as a skeleton.
And that’s my two suits, I have one more but they are in the mail right now so I don’t know anything about them.
This is a bit random but I feel like I need to say something.
A Very Puzzled Shark I LOVE YOUR VIDEOSSSSSS
Thank you for making this video! I was just about to make a mesh suit head, and I have now strayed away from that path and changed to a foam base. Say hi to Kiba for me!
my fursuit crush noticed me... *engage squealing*
i use canvas mesh, but i also got glue foam to it. instead of hot gluing the mesh together i use yarn and overlap it, i basically sew them together. my very first head i made is about 2-3 years old and its been through a lot >> and its still keeping together. i put some foam padding to prevent the canvas from touching. I thought i would clarify that hot gluing the canvas isn't stable and can cause injury but sewing it together makes it stronger. there are also different strengths of mesh. as a maker i thought i should inform you. I make kemono style fursuits
i love your videos XD
Eyyyyy the thumbnail is the same pic from your instagram ;)
it's actually a little different ;P but same shoot tho hahaha
I have a 3D printed base from sparkycando. Here in New Zealand she sold a small handful to our small community. It's extremely light and a little brittle. The moving jaw is very effective! There is defiantly a few cons but so far I've really enjoyed working with them.
Just be warned with closed vs open cell foam: closed firmer and open is squishier. However, open cell is excelent for ventilation as air permiates easily but closed cell is literaly the stuff home insulation is made from as it traps gasses in the cells, preventing the primary method of heat transfer through gasses (convection).
Note that expanding foam is closed cell.
Edit: with 3D printing you can have issues with delamination due to small repetitive impacts or thermal cycling ( cold closet -> hot head -> cold closet -> hot head...).
An interesting developement is Ninjaflex filiment (basicly 3D printable rubber); it is very good at absorbing impacts and is very hard to delaminate. The downside is that it is VERY flexible, like colapses under it's own weight flexible; this would make it extremly hard to design a practical head with a purly Ninjaflex base.
A multi-nozzle printer or a 'cut and connect' feeder could combine the benifits of ridgid filliments and Ninjaflex but it would still be a pain to design a practical hybrid base.
Should it be called hybrid base or composite base? :P
"Eyes can make or break a suit."
*Me with my fursona who has no eyes*
Awesome video! Never knew there were so many different head types! The info about the moving jaws, the eyes, and kemono suits was great too. Very informative and well put together overall. It was really well done. Keep up the great work!
I love how expressive you are! I talk with my hands a lot and it's cute that you talk with your paws so much!
For Kemono style heads, some makers put holes behind or in front of the ears for ventilation so the ventilation is better.
Even though I’ve been a fursuit maker for a couple years now I’m only just making my own personal suit. I’ve made the decision to sacrifice ventilation by making it off a resin base and giving him kemono eyes. Wish me luck. I’m gonna be installing a lot of fans.
Cute and anime: I'm dying but I look amazing
Toony/semi-toony: I look like a lovable cartoon and I can breath
Realistic: kinda creepy, and I can't see but I look cool
Toony seems to be the dominant choice here.
@@lilith3029 yeah
you forgot neck vision! often used for quad suits they're also common in toony or realistic suits which are tall species such as alpacas or giraffes. A mesh that is similar colour to the fur is used, but Beastcub uses collars to disguise the mesh and it looks awesome
Yea, going by this toony would be my choice of suit/head. Thanks for that :3
Though even with the possible issues, I'd still go for a kemono suit. Any of this though would probably never be anytime soon- gotta work on that budgeting thing of course before planning on getting any kind of suit (or high priced expense in general) first.
The only head I've made was from a craft foam (a little thicker than regular foamies), and it was close enough to my real head to make a moving jaw. I don't know if it would be durable enough for some things, but I used it for a bird, Tokoyami from My Hero Academia, and it works.
tokoyami? that's awesome!!!
Even if your not a furry you have to appreciate all the work, thought, and time that goes into making a fursuit.
Thanks for making this, Pocari!
I've got a cosplay head with a working jaw that I made myself - he's my first - but I quickly learnt the ventilation sucks. When it comes time to build my fursona's head, this will be a big help.
Thanks so much, and have fun at Midwest for us who can't afford to go. If you see Zombunny over there, give her a hug and let her know it's from me!
Kimono suiters be like: *dies, CUTELY*
*kemono
How fortunate that you're making all these Fursuit related videos, Comrade Pocari! I'm currently saving up for a Fursuit from DandyLions, and your Pros and Cons are really helping me focus on what kind of suit I'd like! ^w^
I wanted a cheap suit and wanted to make it myself so thanks for the help! I also am young so I want a cheap suit so I can feel the experience but not waste any money.
I'm hoping to have my fursuit finished before MFF. 80 hour workweek sucks. I'd love to hug you and get your thoughts on my first fursuit attempt :D
(doing a muscle wolf character. Not my fursona. Blue minky plush fur for the experimentation. Figured it'd help with heating issues and my budget! Since ya know... I got like 10 yards of it for $30... )
Right now the only thing I need to finish are the hands, feet and tail. The upper body took forever to do. fabric fusion> sewed foam onto a compression shirt/pants and then used elastic thread to attach the fur :3
What about "Use Your Own Eyes" heads? The ones where you just paint your face around your eyes?
also vizors
That sounds kinda creepy doe lol
Varaform is actually pretty sturdy! It bounces back from hits and makes for an amazing combo with Worbla!
Never clicked a video faster XD Hello my favorite blue roo!
Another technique is to model the head in 3d software then "unwrap" the polygonal mesh to a flat surface that can be cut out of foam. The edges are then glued back together to re-create the 3D form. The result is really light weight (so great for oversized heads) and not nearly as stuffy as a carved foam head while being able to take on any style you can imagine. It's also soft, and not prone to being brittle like resin and 3d printed materials.
Resin heads can be patched if needed when there's a crack: drill out the ends of the crack to relieve stress, roughen the surface, bring the edges together (more holes and carpet thread seems to work) and cover with epoxy resin.
I'd suggest two other categories: Rarr suits (designed to be, in part at least, to be horrifying) and mask-style heads which are much less built up than regular fursuit heads and tend to be of the use-your-own-eyes style. My Caitian partial uses this technique and is basically a stretchy antron/muppet fleece balaclava with prosthetic style forms for the nose and mouth and latex treated cardboard ears:
www.furaffinity.net/view/14870494/
Super easy to transport and wear!
I was hoping you would get to the style of heads that use the wearer's eyes when you got to the realistic category, like MagpieBone's heads. I'd still like to know what you think about that style of head.
I’m working on my first fursona rn and I’m excited!
Realistic suit con: It scares kids
I mean, that’s a pro in my opinion.
I enjoy watching this silly community. It is fun and some how relaxing.
Sameeee
As a Kemono suit owner I can vouch for what pocari is saying :3 there are ways to help prevent fogging and makers are trying to make them more breathable by adding spots that are Directly open to fur rather than be solid foam Like mine. My wife Kitti has two heads from the same maker, ones of the newer style and one is the old one like mine :3 My head does however, have Big holes in the ears for ventilation as well as the small mouth. I do fog up within about 5 minutes at con. Going to have fans installed in my ear holes at AC and will update with more info after trying it out! Also we will be at MFF as well :D I may even have my MFL suit if I'm lucky and they catch up on all the work they have in front of them :D *crosses fingers*
Any questions or concerns feel free to ask :D
are kemono fursuits really too hot?
how much on average does one cost?
if you can answer me, i would be happy.
thanks for sharing the information is very helpful!
I’m a young furry starting out on making my first fur suit head. I didn’t know what to choose but this video definitely helped at ton! I’m going to go with a foam head and toony styles. Thanks for this! :3
I love kemono style, I really want a Kemono suit really badly lmao
This is the reason I decided to learn how to make them lol
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that tiger fursuit looks sooo cute!
I am getting pre-made expanding foam headbase and fur it! :D
You can also use a dino mask as a base and you can make mods with foam or a exsacto knife and then just fur it and BAM you have a suit
Your fur suit is so cute!
I love how far you came, I hope you will get even more attention in the future
You deserve ittt
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"at least you look cute while you're dying" Lol
xD
As someone who dabbles in fursuit making let me say your positivity is not only refreshing, but a bit infectious. Thank you so much for sharing it with all of us!
There is a new eye type: digital. You can thank Adafruit for making it easier, but in a nutshell, the eyes are projected on a screen powered by either a micro controller or a micro processor (like a Raspberry Pi). The pro is the eye can be digitally refined to look anyway you want and if done right can be given massive level customization (emotions, blinking, color change, effects, etc). The obvious con is that vision is just as bad as kimono eyes, the eyes only work as long as you have some kind of power source (which if you use the same battery as your fan, means you have less time for that), and the fact they're very complicated if you do not have technical know how. While Adafruit's tutorial DOES help explain things, for a normal fursuit maker, it will be full of head scratching moments.
These can look very cool, especially on augmented / cyberpunk species like protogens.
they are Creepy and Gross
Expanding foam is so fun to work with, if you ever get the chance to use it film it in slow motion it looks really cool
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Pocari: "But... at least you look really cute while you're dying!"
My brain: 'Here! Have an image of someone making a cute kawii face while bleeding out.'
My traumatized, and desensitized self: * Laughing so hard my dad comes upstairs wondering what the problem is. *
edgy
Omfg the tiger with follow-me eyes absolutely murdered my heart
Pocariiii, have you seen that half mask going around twitter of that real-eyes fox? its p rad
sure have! I talked about use-your-own-eyes suits in my "5 cool furry things" video. I left it out of this one cuz it's a bit of a niche and this video was getting far too long ahah
can i just say that the design of your fursona/suit is really pretty!! it’s just very aesthetically pleasing to me :p
10:12 I'm watching you wazowski. ALWAYS WATCHING
Finally found a comment that mentions this.
Tbh, I thought I was the one after rewatching Bottle episodes.
Despite the fact that I could probably never get a suit for Cosmo (mainly for design and financial reasons), I really loved this two part series. Your vids are really dope, and I always look forward to them!
today i noticed my toothbrush looks like you!
I have the same toothbrush
For kemono eyes, I like to make them openable from the back with velcro so you can access the back of the plastic and apply zclear on it so that it doesn't fog.
Hi pocari I love your videos!
This really eases my anxiety about making suits for others. I feel like all I ever hear from others is "this is how a suits supposed to be and if it's not exactly like this your a scammer" and it terrifies me. I never know how creative I'm allowed to get. The fact that u say "hey this kinda suit typicallu has this issue and some people still like it anyway and it's kinda expected" makes the world feel so much closer. Thanks
how are you?
procrastinating from sleeping 😂 yourself?
same lol
I know this was uploaded so long ago buy I’m making my first fur suit and this was very helpful thank you 💙
Awesome vid!!
I have a 3D printer, and while I do agree that there's a steep learning curve, it could still be worth the price if you use it for other things. I got mine for $150 US, and with an 8x8 inch build plate, I could print out a base in less than 6 pieces, then glue them together. You can also help guard against smash related injuries with a layer of regular towel fabric, or some other breathable fabric with reasonable padding. And with it being so cheap to make, you can just print out a new one if you ever need to.
Also if you print out the pieces and just make them interlocking instead of glued, not only would it make the chances of it surviving a punch to the face much greater, but you could easily salvage the head by printing the 1 or 2 panels that broke.
"3d eyes, like my eyes no matter where i put my head they're always watching"
*closes all windows and doors hiding under blanket* •_•
7:54 this is my fursuit head type! It actually what I’m using now that I have the materials and money 😂. I LOVE this type, as it can be relatively cheaper than foam, and the hard part is done for ya! LOVE IT
Hi, Pocari, how're you today?
Currently making my first suit and I accidentally made a working moving jaw with a Expanding Foam and Elastic and it's tough as anything!! I'm so happy about his Honored Mistake!
*10:08** I'M WATCHING YOU WAZOWSKI, AAALWAYS WATCHING...*
Congratulations! I sadly am nowhere near Chicago, but I hope you have fun. Maybe someday you'll come to Fur the More in VA.
Emerald.Black I would love if she could come to VA.....that would be amazing!!!
Me and my friend (she’s really short) we are only in elementary school and we’re furrys and my class found out because I told one of my other friend that me and my short friend are furry and my friend started cringing soooooo hard! I was sad because she was judging me about being a furry but me and my short friend are getting paws and tails and ears for Hallowen and wearing it to school so don’t cringe about your friends that are furrys they will get revenge on Hallowen by hanging out with you with their fursuit on!
I have a 3D printed with partial foam padding (bolt and elasticated jaw) which sports one way eyes. (similar stuff to interrogation room windows)
It's still in the process of being built but I can't wait til I'm finally able to wear it.
WHATS THE DIFFERENCE.
oh wait...
Something I always mention when 3D printing is brought up: in the USA, if you are in a relatively urban/populated area, your local library headquarters may well have a 3D printer that you will be able to use by just paying for the filament used! My sister works at the headquarters library for a relatively small rural city and they have a 3D printer so it's more common than you might think, and most librarians are massive nerds who won't mind if you bring in some furry-related model to print out.
Their technology-focused librarian on staff should be able to help you when it comes to figuring out how to work 3d printers or help you find resources to learn about the modeling for it as well! A lot of people don't realize, but to be a full librarian you need a master's degree, which involves mostly learning how to look up and find information efficiently, so if you ever need some help at the start of learning something and don't know where to turn, your local librarian is very qualified and eager to help you!
I've been making my fursuit heads out of darice plastic canvas sheets. once I cut into strips I use small wire ties to keep it in place, then I use white duck tape along with some plastic glue to hold it in place. then the rest is all foam and fur work. I'm also glade that I'm not the only one to use kickboxing helmets😋.
Super helpful!! Thanks for the advice, Pocari!! Hope you're having an awesome day!!
Good info in this one! One type of head I don't see much about is neck vision heads. I know Beastcub does really good ones, but I can't think of any other makers off the top of my head. They're really good for creatures like horses or gazelles that have long necks to really sell the illusion, and I feel like they would have pretty good vision and ventilation!
I'm so glad you talked about eyes, since they're gonna be SO important. I won't have ears or anything else to look at, since I'm making a ball python, so I need to NAIL the eyes.
This is such a nice video to watch after I got out of work
I actually mastered the normal carved foam bases lol 😂 I like it the best
hows it going your video was very informative. I am a beginner at making my own head and the information you gave helped a lot on designing my character. keep doing what you do you are awesome
Once I'm finished with my current craft project I think I'm gonna try out making myself a foam head mini partial also I have a few ideas of how to improve a couple of problems with foam heads. Peripheral vision, hearing, air flow ect it may fail but worth a shot.
Oh, do I agree about the squinty eyes. Been rocking them on my kitsune here for about 7 years now...and I still find it hard as hell to see where I'm going with his head on XD
Watching the bottle episodes while finishing up the last touches on my first fursuit head^^ I think your videos kept me alive during the last week XD