Makes me wonder what would happen if you did a blindfold test of three guitars of the same model from the same manufacturing batch. How consistent would they be?
The original Gibson logo was a crescent moon and star .then "the Gibson" then the prewar "Gibson" logo and finally the modern logo we know today in 1948.
@@virgilgiordano4582 Yeah, I remember seeing some current Gibson logos on 40s acoustics just a week ago. I may be poor, but I can still window shop on Reverb lol. They also reworked the logo in 70s for a bit, then came back to the old late 40s logo. Still, I'm disappointed because Gibson built it's fame on archtop acoustics, before electric guitars even existed. Yet they aren't offering a single archtop acoustic today. I want to see some L7s or something.
Thank you for your videos. Over the last year, I have been profoundly affected by Covid. In times of sorrow and stress I looked for ANY form of relief. I began watching your vIdeos several years ago…just because I found them informative and fun. Over the last year, I needed a way to escape. I love your reviews. I love the banter. I love the obvious friendships. I love the music. Thank you for a chance to set life aside for a short time and smile again!
@@stanislavmigra Personally, I prefer T-tops or Tim Shaws but I get you mean pups costing a couple of hundred, as opposed to 5-600 bucks. Still, I even prefer the 490r/498t pups to burstbuckers but I know many would disagree. It's horses for courses I guess.
@@jubei7259 money no object, I will probably go for ThroBak DS-55, but those are for price of new guitar :D 490/498 are great choice also, to me they are bit more "modern" focused pickups, but still good choice.
@@stanislavmigra it's funny that, even though Gibson claim burstbuckers are their best pups, their LPC's still come stock with 490's. For me, it's more that I bought most of my guitars in the 90's & they're what came stock so that's the tone I'm more used to. I used to get caught up in the whole 'search for the holy grail tone' stuff, swapping pups in some of my guitars regularly.... until my better half bought me an R6 with P90's for my birthday once & I realised that was it lol
@@jubei7259 I dont get Gibson politic in pups. Aftermarket, they all costs about the same, but to get Burstbuckers or 57s, you have to get the high end model. Even today, SG standard comes with 490r/t. Personaly, I like 498 bridge, but 490 is bland and lifeless for me. PS: Im on that (probably impossible) quest, to get p90 sound form hum canceling pickup, hahaha. Probably need to find a way to live with p90 with all its quirks. PPS: R6, yumiiiii
I inquired about having heritage doing a double cut like "pat travers" and they said they still had Marv Lamb in house. He built Pat's double cut and a couple more when he was with Gibson. Sounds like a good opportunity to get something special.
I had an H-150 for about 5 years. Never could bond with it and always kind of regretted it. I chose the one I thought sounded the best out of about 12 heritage H-150s hanging in the wall at Wolfe guitars in Hollywood, Florida. Something about the smaller cutaway threw the balance off and made it a bit uncomfortable to play sitting down. No biggie. But after a while of owning it, i just concluded the SOUND I was after was not there. The way long sustained notes decayed and did not "bloom" with the warm sweetness I always found in good Gibson Les Pauls was always a sour note for me. Gibson was horrific in quality control for about 20 straight years, so I let the engineer in me win the argument and bought the part by part "better" materials guitar: Heritage. However, I have come to realize that a guitar of this kind is more than the sum of its parts. The design has to be exact. I think the slight changes in scale length and thinner body make the guitar design of heritage just sound different. Not bad, just different. In the end it wasn't a Les Paul and did not SOUND like what I hear in my head when I think "Les Paul". Rob's conclusions at the end of his test are exactly how I feel about it too. I ended up selling the H-150 and got myself a Standard 60's Gibson Les Paul. Last time I handled such a great sounding and feeling instrument was when someone let me try a reissue '59 for a few minutes. No joke. In the end of you want the Les paul sound and feel, get a Les paul.
I would like to hear the hertiage with diffrent pickups like the the Alnico 2 Burstbuckers . Never cared for the Duncan 59s in a les paul . They make killer SG and explorer pickups though.
his sound brrrrr. I like Chappers but his taste of sound is not mine. If Pete plays whatever, it always sounds nice but i never find it a nice sound if Chappers plays, even on very good guitars.
Glad that you're back KEEP MAKING VIDEOS. I like all the other people, Danish Pete and so forth and Rebea. But Chappers and the Captain best DUO ever!🤘🏻
I bet a viewer blind player test would be cool, with Lee, Pete, Rabea, and Rob. Each maybe trying to sound like someone else. I wonder if the could capture the nuances which make them desitinctive as a player or if it'd still be easy to tell, yeah that's Lee, or Mick, or Rabea. Usually when I'm listening to these but not necessarily wasltching them I can pretty easily pick out who is in the intro jam. Anyhow just an idea guys, I know at one point you guys have discussed each other as players, it'd be interesting to see how the application of your perception of each other would be to the real deal.
How in the hell did you guys BOTH manage to miss the very obvious scratch plate difference between the Gibsons and and the Heritage? I went through the whole section with Rob playing that guitar wondering if and when he would hit the underside of the plate and feel its telltale shape. You should have taken the plates off if you wanted to conceal the guitars' identifies from touch.
He didn’t even notice it with his blindfold off when he was staring at the guitars literally looking for visual differences! 🤦🏼♂️ And neither did the Captain… off to Specsavers for those two! 😜
Yeah the 2nd one was the best sounding Les Paul although the Heritage can be improved considerably by changing the hardware and pickups. I did and i love it..
I’m not even in the market for a new guitar but I stopped by to watch The Captain and The Chappers. I’ve missed seeing your collaboration. Hope we see him more often….
Bookmatched means you cut the wood through the middle, then open it like a book. The woodgrain is a mirror image because it is the same chunk of wood. The Heritage here exemplifies this. Both Gibsons are using two different chunks for the two halves. That is why the two halves are so different.
@Mark Seymour The Gibsons in this video are case in point of exactly what you said. It is another case in point of how Epiphone is higher quality than today's Gibsons. With Gibson, you are paying for the privilege of the name. Yes, Epiphone uses veneers instead of tops, but those veneers are made from the same chunk of wood, so the grain actually matches.
Great video now I know if I ever get a Gibson les paul I need to get a 50s for sound .... but isn't the 60s neck slimmer? Yeah that doesn't matter so much to me , I have my shredder guitars ...
Standard 50s is truly great. even though i have owned many quality guitars like ESP's and fenders. the standard 50s just blew everything else away ... so resonant and easy to play.
I am so glad to see those two together again. It’s a great idea to slowly release these videos so it feels like Chappers is back. And hopefully by the time they’re out he comes back and does some more.
I liked the sound of The Heritage! Lots of growl! But considering it's the same price as the Gibson I would probably choose the Gibson for resale value. Thanks chaps!
nice to see you again on this channel sir Chapman. The vids by the two of you are funny and have some use. I watch them as i travel in bus or train and they certainly virtually reduce the ride. This one did not.
Well, if you know about Les Pauls you can recognize the Heritage easily even if the headstock is hidden. The pickguard and the cutaway reveals it. The sound too i have to admit. The tobacco burst Gibson was the best sounding one of the three.
I was able to pick out the Heritage but I did get wrong which Gibson is which. I thought 1 was the 60’s which is what I own because it sounds closer to mine.
I'd like to see a series of videos showing the best alternatives to Gibsons, not just Epiphone. In the ES335 world, how does the Sire H7 compare to the high end Epiphones. In the Les Paul standard world, does the Sire L7 or Epiphone 59 or Epiphone Lazarus get you closer to the sound, feel and playability of the Gibson LP standard or should you go with a Tribute or Studio.
I LOVE Epiphones. I've played the Sire. No comparison, the Gibson 335 is just better by miles. That said my main guitar is my Epiphone ES 355 Bonamassa. The Sire was very good but the Epiphone was just a tad better in most regards. As to Les Paul guitars. Save your money. The Gibson is exponentially better than anything not made by Heritage or PRS. Even the Tribute or Studio are better than even the highest end import Les Pauls from Epiphone or any other overseas brand.
The 50s standard is the nicest sounding of the Bunch I think it's the A2 Burstbkckers . The 60s standard and heritage have A5 pickups and I have come to the realization that I prefer weaker magnets like A2 A3 and unoriented A5.
Cannot believe Rob and Lee BOTH didn't notice the pickguard is different on the heritage. I noticed within 2 seconds of looking.
True, but that doesn't mean it couldn't just be a gibson with a different pick guard
@@TommyJohnsen446 There are no common LP with different pickguards
Also the horn.
Almost instantly and I’m not a huge Gibson fan,
They are trying to sell you a heritage is why.. IMO
@@TheDistortionPrinciple for me that pickguard looks modern and great on it's own! Not even turning me off the brand 1%
“The only visible difference is the slightly different horn”
- Apart from the wildly different pickguard.
and the sticker on it...
My thoughts exactly.
Notice that in the heat of a challenge :P
And the toggle switch cover not being there 😅
And the poker chip.
Other fact:
The reason it’s called “The Heritage” is because the original Gibson L-5 model said “The Gibson” in the same font on the headstock.
I think its the same reason the mandolins say "The Loar." ??
I think all Gibsons before a certain year were branded “The Gibson.” My 1915 L-3 says “The Gibson” on the headstock
This Guy - I thought it had to do more with the fact Heritage is in Gibson's original Kalamazoo Michigan factory.
The redesigned pickguard on the Heritage is thinking “Am I a joke to you?!”
Great vid :) Nice to see Rob back :)
Brilliant, welcome home! Such a fun video.
Idk why I was so stoked to watch Rob’s cup disappear in the beginning
It’s been too damn long man!
I almost fell out of my chair when Lee says "I literally told you 60 seconds ago there are two Gibsons and one Heritage." 🤣
Makes me wonder what would happen if you did a blindfold test of three guitars of the same model from the same manufacturing batch. How consistent would they be?
That's a great idea
Look up the color test. An oddball snuck in, but there were three ostensibly identical guitars and a slightly higher end one being tested blindfolded.
This needs to be a video!!
Then we could finally find out if Sunburst sounds warmer than blue
Excellent idea
Put a sock over your headstock so if Gibson tries to sue you, all they sue is the sock.
Headsock
How that wildly split top veneer even got past prototype stage goes beyond my imagination.
Couldn't agree more, it's horrific to look at 😢
Gibson quality check.
The Heritage because originally Gibson's headstock logo was The Gibson. Look at early mandolins.... "The Gibson"
Yep it's a throwback. One that I appreciate. Would be cool if Heritage used the original headstock design too (no longer protected, I think).
The original Gibson logo was a crescent moon and star .then "the Gibson" then the prewar "Gibson" logo and finally the modern logo we know today in 1948.
@@virgilgiordano4582 Yeah, I remember seeing some current Gibson logos on 40s acoustics just a week ago. I may be poor, but I can still window shop on Reverb lol.
They also reworked the logo in 70s for a bit, then came back to the old late 40s logo.
Still, I'm disappointed because Gibson built it's fame on archtop acoustics, before electric guitars even existed. Yet they aren't offering a single archtop acoustic today. I want to see some L7s or something.
I was gonna say that.
Thank you for your videos. Over the last year, I have been profoundly affected by Covid. In times of sorrow and stress I looked for ANY form of relief. I began watching your vIdeos several years ago…just because I found them informative and fun. Over the last year, I needed a way to escape. I love your reviews. I love the banter. I love the obvious friendships. I love the music. Thank you for a chance to set life aside for a short time and smile again!
“He always refers to himself in the 3rd person”
Said The Captain
Nice to see Rob back... Hello Mr Chapman!
The BadCat sounds very gnarly and spiky; it would probably work well in a mix, but not quite as flattering as you'd like for the guitar all by itself.
indeed. reminds me of some of the late 70's/early 80's live sounds of super leads. Kinda rough around the edges but cutting and wonderful in a mix
Yes. It sounds awful, imo.
I think it sounds fantastic by itself
Is no one going to mention that the coffee mug appeared out of thin air @12:05? 😂
Well, first it disappeared and then it reappeared. But yes it was noticed.
That 50's model had an amazing sound. A real classic rock tone, compared to the others
courtesy of beautifull Burstbuckers 1 and 2. Best pickups (for human money) for Les Paul for me.
@@stanislavmigra Personally, I prefer T-tops or Tim Shaws but I get you mean pups costing a couple of hundred, as opposed to 5-600 bucks. Still, I even prefer the 490r/498t pups to burstbuckers but I know many would disagree. It's horses for courses I guess.
@@jubei7259 money no object, I will probably go for ThroBak DS-55, but those are for price of new guitar :D
490/498 are great choice also, to me they are bit more "modern" focused pickups, but still good choice.
@@stanislavmigra it's funny that, even though Gibson claim burstbuckers are their best pups, their LPC's still come stock with 490's. For me, it's more that I bought most of my guitars in the 90's & they're what came stock so that's the tone I'm more used to. I used to get caught up in the whole 'search for the holy grail tone' stuff, swapping pups in some of my guitars regularly.... until my better half bought me an R6 with P90's for my birthday once & I realised that was it lol
@@jubei7259 I dont get Gibson politic in pups. Aftermarket, they all costs about the same, but to get Burstbuckers or 57s, you have to get the high end model. Even today, SG standard comes with 490r/t. Personaly, I like 498 bridge, but 490 is bland and lifeless for me.
PS: Im on that (probably impossible) quest, to get p90 sound form hum canceling pickup, hahaha. Probably need to find a way to live with p90 with all its quirks.
PPS: R6, yumiiiii
Who needs Chappers when we have Pete who is a much better player as well as Lee's substantially improved and very enjoyable playing.
WELCOME BACK!!!
Welcome back!!!!
Great video, blind tests are the best. I've become a real fan of the Alico 2 magnet PAF style sound. Especially the Gibson '57 and SD Seth Lover.
Awesome to have you both back, on screen chemistry and wit - the best of the last 15 years on Andertons was your sparky schoolboy scoffs
Capt. Lee and Rob: my discovery of the guitars UA-cam game.
Good to see you back pal. Looking well
Welcome back my man!
I inquired about having heritage doing a double cut like "pat travers" and they said they still had Marv Lamb in house. He built Pat's double cut and a couple more when he was with Gibson.
Sounds like a good opportunity to get something special.
Love it so glad you're back 👍🎸
I had an H-150 for about 5 years. Never could bond with it and always kind of regretted it. I chose the one I thought sounded the best out of about 12 heritage H-150s hanging in the wall at Wolfe guitars in Hollywood, Florida. Something about the smaller cutaway threw the balance off and made it a bit uncomfortable to play sitting down. No biggie. But after a while of owning it, i just concluded the SOUND I was after was not there. The way long sustained notes decayed and did not "bloom" with the warm sweetness I always found in good Gibson Les Pauls was always a sour note for me. Gibson was horrific in quality control for about 20 straight years, so I let the engineer in me win the argument and bought the part by part "better" materials guitar: Heritage.
However, I have come to realize that a guitar of this kind is more than the sum of its parts. The design has to be exact. I think the slight changes in scale length and thinner body make the guitar design of heritage just sound different. Not bad, just different. In the end it wasn't a Les Paul and did not SOUND like what I hear in my head when I think "Les Paul". Rob's conclusions at the end of his test are exactly how I feel about it too. I ended up selling the H-150 and got myself a Standard 60's Gibson Les Paul. Last time I handled such a great sounding and feeling instrument was when someone let me try a reissue '59 for a few minutes. No joke. In the end of you want the Les paul sound and feel, get a Les paul.
Glad to see Rob!!!! Also, I have a Heritage H-140 from 1986. Killer guitar in every way.
Rob good to see you back!
I sincerely missed Chaps blindfolded challenges.
The middle guitar looks weird with such different pieces of maple on the top. Looks like two half guitars glued together.
I would like to hear the hertiage with diffrent pickups like the the Alnico 2 Burstbuckers . Never cared for the Duncan 59s in a les paul . They make killer SG and explorer pickups though.
Prefer the Heritage shallower cut-out and once binded that headstock looks so much better!
Can't lie, they all look and sound great to me!
Hi Chappers, welcome back!
Soo good to see you back together again!!!
What good about this guitar channel. It make me happy 😃 ❤️ 🎸
Rob is back wowza
"Non-crusty ones..." Lee is such a comedy act HAHAHA
No question that the '50s sounded better to my ear. This was a very useful comparison for me. Thanks, guys!
his sound brrrrr. I like Chappers but his taste of sound is not mine. If Pete plays whatever, it always sounds nice but i never find it a nice sound if Chappers plays, even on very good guitars.
Totally agree. Same when compared to Rabea, his shredding sounds so much nicer!
Same
Hell yeah, it's great to see Rob and Lee back together as the classic Chappers and the Captain duo
Glad that you're back KEEP MAKING VIDEOS. I like all the other people, Danish Pete and so forth and Rebea. But Chappers and the Captain best DUO ever!🤘🏻
The pick gaurd and the covering over the headstock isn't hiding the truss rod cover😂😂😂
Rob’s first riff back is UFO’s “Rock Bottom” - what is he trying to tell us?!?
Was just about to say!! First riff... SCHENKER!!! ❤❤
The rock is back and the bottom is not near! Idk! Lol! Always cool to see him back,
You are hilarious… the give away is the pick guard of course lol !
Glad to see Rob back on the channel. The blindfold challenges are great 👍
Number 2 was barky quacks in a good way tone wise 😊my favorite
Didn't watch your videos for a while :)
I was hoping that the mug will disappear at 2:14 and I was not disappointed 😂
Woo Hoo! Super Jazz Hands!
Nailed it. And never noticed the pickguard actually, just by the sound.
two lovely fellows !
Rob good to see you!
Welcome back Rob"online power" Chapman.
All is right with the world again to have The Captain and Chappers back for a blind fold challenge. No more viruses please!
There are the same stickers on the gibson pick guards 😊
As soon as he said “wow that’s a loud pickup” I knew it was the heritage
I bet a viewer blind player test would be cool, with Lee, Pete, Rabea, and Rob. Each maybe trying to sound like someone else. I wonder if the could capture the nuances which make them desitinctive as a player or if it'd still be easy to tell, yeah that's Lee, or Mick, or Rabea.
Usually when I'm listening to these but not necessarily wasltching them I can pretty easily pick out who is in the intro jam.
Anyhow just an idea guys, I know at one point you guys have discussed each other as players, it'd be interesting to see how the application of your perception of each other would be to the real deal.
How in the hell did you guys BOTH manage to miss the very obvious scratch plate difference between the Gibsons and and the Heritage? I went through the whole section with Rob playing that guitar wondering if and when he would hit the underside of the plate and feel its telltale shape. You should have taken the plates off if you wanted to conceal the guitars' identifies from touch.
He didn’t even notice it with his blindfold off when he was staring at the guitars literally looking for visual differences! 🤦🏼♂️ And neither did the Captain… off to Specsavers for those two! 😜
Helllllll !!!! Yeahhhhhhh!!!!!!!The Chappers and the Captain!!!!!!!!I miss this 🤘😈🤘😎🤘🎸🎸🎸🍻
Yeah the 2nd one was the best sounding Les Paul although the Heritage can be improved considerably by changing the hardware and pickups. I did and i love it..
I’m not even in the market for a new guitar but I stopped by to watch The Captain and The Chappers. I’ve missed seeing your collaboration. Hope we see him more often….
I only watch for exploding coffee cups. 😎
Look at the two halves of the tops. As expected, both Gibsons have completely mismatched halves, while the Heritage top matches both halves perfectly.
Bookmatched means you cut the wood through the middle, then open it like a book. The woodgrain is a mirror image because it is the same chunk of wood. The Heritage here exemplifies this.
Both Gibsons are using two different chunks for the two halves. That is why the two halves are so different.
@Mark Seymour The Gibsons in this video are case in point of exactly what you said. It is another case in point of how Epiphone is higher quality than today's Gibsons. With Gibson, you are paying for the privilege of the name.
Yes, Epiphone uses veneers instead of tops, but those veneers are made from the same chunk of wood, so the grain actually matches.
Good to see you again, Rob.
Great video now I know if I ever get a Gibson les paul I need to get a 50s for sound .... but isn't the 60s neck slimmer? Yeah that doesn't matter so much to me , I have my shredder guitars ...
Standard 50s is truly great. even though i have owned many quality guitars like ESP's and fenders. the standard 50s just blew everything else away ... so resonant and easy to play.
I am so glad to see those two together again. It’s a great idea to slowly release these videos so it feels like Chappers is back. And hopefully by the time they’re out he comes back and does some more.
I've enjoyed the time without Rob. Danish Pete and The Captain are the shit together
Hilarious: That happens when you get older Rob, you become a real man, you start liking guitars form the 50's.
Glad to see Rob back in the chair for a bit!
I liked the sound of The Heritage! Lots of growl! But considering it's the same price as the Gibson I would probably choose the Gibson for resale value. Thanks chaps!
In USA, The Heritage is 200 bucks cheaper, but I agree with you about resale value..
The first thing I noticed was the pickguard difference. How did they not notice this?
Will I be able to buy a guitar Anderton’s Head Sock?
The dynamic duo is back!
#2 should be called the Two-face burst since it looks like mismatched finish pieces from mist angles and only matches straight on .
It's called 'run out'. It happens when the wood is not properly quarter sawn and so reflects the light differently..
I could tell by the pickguard! Great video
Will Chappers and Cap jam together? I always liked their jams in the beginning back in the day.. always cool chord progressions
You need to redo this video with Danish Pete. Would be much better.
I knew which was the Heritage because there was a sticker on the pickward on the Gibsons so I guessed the only one without one was other brand 😛👍
This was a much needed video love the chappers captain duo and love the demonstrations they are just two friends having fun demonstrating hear
What with the blindfold... what's the Orange thing over Lee's right shoulder?
So neither noticed that the pick guard on the heritage is quite different .
At last! Great to see you both back :)
Man, I really liked that THE Heritage.
I just purchased a heritage custom core, prefer it over my Gibson
Great to see the Rob Chapman back 🤘🔥🤘
nice to see you again on this channel sir Chapman. The vids by the two of you are funny and have some use. I watch them as i travel in bus or train and they certainly virtually reduce the ride. This one did not.
I LOVE the SOX OVER THE HEADSTOCK
Well, if you know about Les Pauls you can recognize the Heritage easily even if the headstock is hidden. The pickguard and the cutaway reveals it. The sound too i have to admit. The tobacco burst Gibson was the best sounding one of the three.
The sock is a great idea! Keeps us playing as well.
I just bought a Chapman guitar. Love it
Unlucky
Rob has repeatedly dominated the blindfold challenges, but isn't the no poker chip on the Heritage a dead give away?
What is the number running behind the Lee's shoulder, please?
I was able to pick out the Heritage but I did get wrong which Gibson is which. I thought 1 was the 60’s which is what I own because it sounds closer to mine.
I'd like to see a series of videos showing the best alternatives to Gibsons, not just Epiphone. In the ES335 world, how does the Sire H7 compare to the high end Epiphones. In the Les Paul standard world, does the Sire L7 or Epiphone 59 or Epiphone Lazarus get you closer to the sound, feel and playability of the Gibson LP standard or should you go with a Tribute or Studio.
I LOVE Epiphones. I've played the Sire.
No comparison, the Gibson 335 is just better by miles. That said my main guitar is my Epiphone ES 355 Bonamassa. The Sire was very good but the Epiphone was just a tad better in most regards.
As to Les Paul guitars. Save your money. The Gibson is exponentially better than anything not made by Heritage or PRS. Even the Tribute or Studio are better than even the highest end import Les Pauls from Epiphone or any other overseas brand.
The 50s standard is the nicest sounding of the Bunch I think it's the A2 Burstbkckers . The 60s standard and heritage have A5 pickups and I have come to the realization that I prefer weaker magnets like A2 A3 and unoriented A5.
That's why Chappers stays in Indo... cause every time he comes back you put that crazy blindfold on him and make him do circus tricks :-D
Awesome to see Chappers back!!