Yeah good point I had many thoughts of having someone else 2. But yeah had him 1 cause of a very high pick and the stuff he did off the field. Glad you enjoyed man.
@@RilesMacca He was certainly a massive waste of talent. I saw him kick 6 from half forward in a game the Suns got smashed in. It looked like he was playing a different game to everyone else.
Would have been a fine player if not for concussion issues. Was terrific at Sydney in 2022 as an intercepting defender with a wonderful, penetrating kick. Reminded me of The Guv at West Coast …
Yeah he is a bust, I was thinking of having him in but it’s cause he’s a pick 10. The other players in this video are a higher pick and most of them played less games than Gorringe too. Glad you enjoyed the vid mate.
An interesting take. A great topic which creates a lot of debate. I just hope that all clubs have the proper support systems in place to help these fellas with life after AFL.
Might be my Melbourne bias showing through, but I genuinely feel Toupas was by far the worst of these players. Unlike other listed players injury played no part in his failure - just lack of ability. In fact, his main ability was to avoid being anywhere near the ball. Ironically, he was considered a certainty to go in the top 2 of the draft that year and it was well known that Melbourne planned to use pick 4 to draft Ollie Wines. But when Toumpas was surprisingly still there when Melbourne's pick came up they made the kneejerk decision that they couldn't pass up a pick 2 who had slipped to 4 and they drafted him. You described what Toumpas went on to achieve while Ollie Wines went on to have a successful career, even winning a Brownlow.
@@wayneperry7413 Every club took someone other than Pav, he was overlooked in that years draft, It took another year of SANFL for his talent to become clear and then went early in the next years draft before Adelaide had any chance to get him.
Nota Dockers fan but Morabito was going to be or close to be rookie of the year in his first year, the fact the kid could never get his body right doesn't make hima bust, poor selection....
Great stuff, but I feel it’s a bit harsh to call a player crippled by injuries like morabito a “bust” as it was bad luck that ended his career, not lack of talent- he finished 2nd in the 2010 rising star-
Not a bad list but you've ruined it with Bennell at 1. How can a bloke who played 88 games and at times in his career was considered a top 50 player be a bigger bust than spuds that played 4 games? Absolutely ridiculous
I stumbled across this video and thought!! There are many more names worthy of this list. I will give you just 1. 😮 Jimmy Savage, drafted to the GWS, not sure of the exact year. He kicked their (GWS) 1st goal in a competitive hitout, a practice match. Didn’t make another appearance. Was de-listed for returning home to SA, to attend a birthday party! 🎉🎉🎉
Reckon Beau Dowler was stiff to miss out being a pick 6 who played 16 games in five years considering 13 of those were in one season. Will never forget the back to back top 10 draft busts in Dowler in 05 and Thorp in 06 as a Hawks fan.
From another big hawks fan, spot on.... Clarko & Wright/Buckenara didn't get much wrong, but those 2 picks were bad. Especially when Selwood was after Thorpe.
Thorp was stuck behind Franklin, Roughead and Williams. A tough forward line to break into. Even though the Hawks midfield was strong in that era, a number 6 pick should find himself a way to earn a game.
Good vid. Would say Pickett was never a consensus top 5 pick. Was just taken thst early by Giants because they had a plethora of picks and talent around then and just did what they wanted with selections.
Could be any number of players. What this list illustrates just because they're drafted in a particular position, does not automatically infer they will go on and play 300 games. Draft day is just the beginning. Now the hard work begins, and I reckon fans often forget that point.
Was thinking of putting him in, but since he was a pick 10, the other players in this video are a higher pick and most of them played less games than Gorringe.
Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls DEFINITELY should have been in here somewhere. Plough had big raps on him but he just never got there. Stunned that Bennell is even on the list tbh.
Can't argue with your top 10. I will give you the cats top 10 bust which is a choice of 2 because of how scarce top 10 picks are for the cats. It has to be between Kane Tenace pick 7 2003 who managed 59 games in 6 seasons, & Nakia Cockatoo pick 10 2014 draft who managed 34 games in 4 seasons at the cats. I'm going to say Tenace because although injuries kept Cockatoo out of the team, Tenace skills kept him from getting a game although when he was drafted he was built up as being the next Gen running athlete built for the afl. Ultimately let cats supporters down.
@@RilesMacca would you call DeGoey a bust if he wasn't given a million chances by Collingwood? Certain clubs will tolerate things more while others wont. Bennell proved worthy of the pick talent wise. McCartin is far more deserving of the bust label than Harley.
@@nathjohn3158 De goey is still playing first off and he has had a much better career than Bennell so I wouldn’t call de goey a bust at all. McCartin yes I would call him a bust, but he doesn’t meet the criteria of the video cause he’s still actively playing. It’s a very controversial number 1 choice I know that’s why I chose him.
@@RilesMacca sorry I didnt hear that part of the criteria, my bad I would have had Jack Martin and Schache over Bennell as a bust also despite them still playing. I just think we just define bust differently , a lot of these guys shouldn't have been picked as high as they were, thats what I define it as, where with Bennell I saw why he was. Remember the game vs Geelong when playing for the GC, something like 28 possies and 6 goals. Looked a top 3 player in the COMP that night.
As a Dees fan, great job nailing Molan and Toumpas, spot on with both, disappointed Lucas Cook missed out on a deserving spot on the list coz picked just outside the top 10 he might be the biggest bust of all Melbourne's and we have a lot of them.
Toumpas is burning it up now in SANFL, always a star at that level, but never up to the big league. Hint to recruiters, never judge a bloke just on a fantastic SANFL grand final, as Melbourne recruiters did.
The Toump was taken in the same draft that Melbourne took Jack Viney as a father son in the second round. For me when you consider who is a bust you look at who you ignored as an option. In this case surely it is Ollie Wines. The decision is even worse when you consider that Ollie and Jack Viney were great mates as kids and played Junior footy together. Unforgivable to think the Melbourne list manager was Todd Viney who surely knew the potential Ollie had. The only way this pick could be forgiven is if you think that if we got Ollie there’s a chance we don’t end up with Oliver and Petracca
@@tiborsol6376 Dees were keen on Ollie. But then saw Toump slide down the draft and took him. Toump was rated highly by everyone. I guess it's a lesson that you should go for what you see as valuable, and not necessarily what others think is good.
As an Essendon fan, I would happily go back in time to 2006 and lose the Bryce Gibbs Cup and finish with the spoon, if it meant not having to end up with Scott Fumbleton (spelling intentional) If I were to submit a name not covered here, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls was a diabolical bust. Pick 8 in 2005, played 13 games for the Tigers (and then none at West Coast) and remembered as possibly the worst Richmond player this century, which is a high bar.
I think if you excluded players still on an AFL list because they could still potentially have a good career you should also have excluded players like Morabito or Gumbleton whose careers were only ruined by serious injury. Players like Gorringe, Toumpas, Watts and Pickett who have no excuses are the biggest busts
Yeah that’s a fair point, I still included those players anyway because a bust is a bust. It’s harsh but I still reckon If a players ruined by injury they’re still a bust.
@@RilesMacca I dont necessarily disagree that they are busts but I personally think they rank lower than somebody who was given every opportunity to perform and still didnt. With a bit of injury luck who knows how good Morabito or Gumbleton could have been? Maybe they could have been Brownlow and Coleman medalists whereas we know guys like Toumpas for whatever reason just werent very good
You are kidding yourself naming Jack Watts in this group. Are you aware he had a 174 game career? Did you ever even personally watch one of them. While obviously not among the best number one picks he had a decent footy career finishing in the top 6 in the b and f regularly. In his draft year the obvious better number one pick was Nic Nat. Having said that had they picked Nic Nat, who went pick 2, it was obvious he would have done his two years then gone home to WA. Melbourne had Mark JAMAR, who went on to be All Australian in 2010. They also had a young kid they liked and had as a rookie. If they take Nic Nat they certainly don’t keep that kid. You may have heard of him, his name is Max Gawn. Jack Watts was a good player, not great but certainly not a bust. In fairness to him look what he was thrown into. Expected as an underage recruit to come straight in and carry the team, a very weak team at that. Imagine what might have been if he came in to what a player like Luke Jackson has walked into. Still not convinced? When Melbourne finally traded Watts it was to Port for their first second round pick. Pick 31 overall. With that they took a kid from Coldstream called Bailey Fritsch. He’s just kicked Six goals in a grand final and won a flag. Come on Jayden, at least have a look and educate yourself next time so you don’t make a goose of yourself
@@tiborsol6376 ok you're clearly a Dees supporter and I've hit a nerve there. Yes I am aware Watts wouldn't have fit in the less than 100 game criteria and I am also aware he had talent which just makes him a bust all the more. Watts was potentially the most hyped no. 1 pick of all time until Rowell and never delivered on half of it. Yeah he played over 150 games at Melbourne but it's mainly cos as you rightly pointed out he was unlucky enough to be drafted to an absolute basket case of a club that didn't have any depth whatsoever to put pressure on his spot. As soon as he got to Port it was very clear he was just an ok player that had coasted through his career to that point and big shock, he did nothing at Port despite the fact he should have been in his prime and was surrounded by a better side to take the pressure off him. Yeah he was thrown in the deep end but so are lots of young players, Nick Daicos already has that same level of pressure put on him when Collingwood came out halfway through last year and said hed be getting a game with them already if they were allowed, and Matt Rowell walked into the worst team since the 09 Dees and was nearly the Brownlow favourite after 4 games. You can try and justify or defend him all you like but Jack Watts was, maybe somewhat unfortunately, the most disappointing number 1 pick of all time and a massive bust. Ps. Turning the compo pick 31 from his trade into a good player is a credit to the recruiting team at the time and has less than nothing to do with Watts himself.
@@jaydenatkin7241 Mate you would have to do a fair bit to upset a Dees supporter at the moment. Probably my main point about Jack is that for those of us that actually watched a lot of his footy we know he was actually a decent enough player. He’s probably the most maligned player in history and most people who saw for themselves rather than just co opted some harsh opinions from a few journalists and past players would know that. It was always weird that people were so negative about him. I’m not saying he was any better than a bit above serviceable but assessments like worst ever number 1 are crazy stuff. I think he might have Richard Loundner, Anthony Banik, John Parker and even Pat Mccartin covered. The crap surrounding Jack has been around from very early on. Think of his first game where everyone says he just got monstered by Collingwood players the first time he went near the ball. Interesting that nobody says he contested the ball, won it, got a free for a high tackle and then kicked it inside 50 and a goal was scored, it’s obviously a better story to say he got monstered, certainly there are enough fools around to just fall into that because they don’t know any better. When we traded Jack we got Bailey Fritsch who kicked six in a GF and is a premiership player. Nic Nat who was taken at number 2 behind Jack is more of a highlight real than a consistent player and notably is not a premiership player
A "Bust" is a high draft pick that plays a relatively healthy career like 100+ games but is only ever and average player. Nearly every single player on this list has had their career effected from injury...thats not a bust. The players career projection and expectation changes as soon as they get injured no matter where they were drafted.
I don't think the term is meant as a reflection on bad picks. A 'bust' may have been an excellent pick but it's simply a reflection on how the pick worked out in the end.
Paddy McCartin still a draft bust, as he retired from the Game for 2 years and St's got nothing from him. even if he plays 150 quality games as far as the his initial drafting he will always be a bust.
@@The_Tradie_Trainer he returned back 2022 and had his best season and was key in sydney swans backline and probably one of the best apart from lloyd and blakey in the defence last year but he got concussed this year without concusiions he would have at least 120 games to his name and st kilda should have got petracca 1st pick because he was projected 1st then Jarrod Pickett 2nd and Paddy Mccartin 3rd
@@toxicpoison-j8t 1) Sydney’s backline; not St Kilda who drafted him and got nothing in the way of players/picks from Sydney in return 2) He did get concussed though and hasn’t played 120 games As it stands St Kilda got 35(?) games out of their pick 1 (bust) while Sydney have gotten 28 games out of a rookie pick which would be considered a win. Fwiw #1 picks play an average of 157 games and Paddy has managed less than half of that in his whole career, and a quarter of that if you look at his return as a number 1 draft pick.
My pick and I don’t know if it counts in the time frame is Jared Brennan, pick 3, 2002. Why Brennan is the biggest bust, because he genuinely could’ve been great he had superstar talent when he kicked 7 goals against Collingwood at the MCG in 2003 (a year in which Collingwood were grand finalists) it was on full display. He never lived even slightly up to his potential the X-Factor was in there but it only came out one or maybe two times.
I think it's pretty stiff to have guys who had their careers destroyed by injuries only in this list, dont get me wrong in hindsight they were obviously busts but in my opinion a player like Jimmy Toumpas, Jack Watts, Harley Bennell or Daniel Gorringe are far bigger busts than someone like Morrabito or Gumbleton cos they have no excuses to blame.
I reckon it's a bit unfair to put players on here that didn't live up to the hype due to injury. That was just something that wasn't in their control. I would've preferred to see more players that didn't live up to the hype due to just being shit or average.
Yes and no, some were just pure wastes of talents that had no injuries. It’s harsh but in my eyes a bust is still a player that kept on getting injured.
Its a harsh call but i do understand your number 1. Bennell is EASILY the most purely talented player on this list. Stats weren't as bad as some others but his career was so disappointing as a whole.
It’s hard too, but if you’re not playing cause of injury, your not playing. Sure their careers could’ve been a lot better if they weren’t injured, but they’re still technically a bust.
Toumpas would always be mucking around in warm-ups before games. Not everyone is as serious and dedicated as Brendon Goddard, but Jimmy looked unprofessional.
Sydney picking Dylan Stephens at #5 in 2019 ahead of Caleb Serong and Hayden Young is something Kinnear Beatson should never live down. A very below average player …
Geez Harley at number one bit harsh considering all the other bums before him probably didn't even poll a Brownlow vote. Have to agree to disagree with you there mate
@@scdingundaroo Fair call, Bennell had a massive amount of talent but wasted it from injuries and off the field dramas, that’s why I find him as such a significant bust. Could’ve been a great player if he didn’t make the wrong choices. That’s why I have him 1.
Great effort, I can’t agree with Bennell at number 1 though. 88 games is surely too many in comparison to others, under your criteria
Yeah good point I had many thoughts of having someone else 2. But yeah had him 1 cause of a very high pick and the stuff he did off the field. Glad you enjoyed man.
@@RilesMacca He was certainly a massive waste of talent. I saw him kick 6 from half forward in a game the Suns got smashed in. It looked like he was playing a different game to everyone else.
He would be at like 250 games already and at least a best and fairest award without injuries and off field drama
Felt for Morabito, he had some terrific games in 2010.
Yeah, good call. Morabito could really play
Yeah that was injury rather than being a flake
@@itookallthenames you can't call someone a bust due to injury when they were an obvious gun
Paddy McCattan has proved us all wrong this year
always believed in him
always believed in his early retirement@@albertmiller2electricbooga897
Now he is gone
Would have been a fine player if not for concussion issues. Was terrific at Sydney in 2022 as an intercepting defender with a wonderful, penetrating kick. Reminded me of The Guv at West Coast …
Wouldn't even have Bennell in the top 10, his career was better than all these guys combined. Agree with the rest.
Great video. I was expecting Daniel Gorringe (pick 10, 2010) on the list as he jokes about himself as a bust for Suns and Blues
Yeah he is a bust, I was thinking of having him in but it’s cause he’s a pick 10. The other players in this video are a higher pick and most of them played less games than Gorringe too. Glad you enjoyed the vid mate.
He was a hack
Pretty stiff on guys with multiple long term injuries - 3 ACLs seems out of someone’s control
Facts
Still a bust. The pick was a bust not saying the player sucks
An interesting take. A great topic which creates a lot of debate. I just hope that all clubs have the proper support systems in place to help these fellas with life after AFL.
John Butcher worth a shout..as much as i loved the bloke 31 games and no idea how a bloke with that bad a kicking action gets drafted as a fwd
Might be my Melbourne bias showing through, but I genuinely feel Toupas was by far the worst of these players. Unlike other listed players injury played no part in his failure - just lack of ability. In fact, his main ability was to avoid being anywhere near the ball. Ironically, he was considered a certainty to go in the top 2 of the draft that year and it was well known that Melbourne planned to use pick 4 to draft Ollie Wines. But when Toumpas was surprisingly still there when Melbourne's pick came up they made the kneejerk decision that they couldn't pass up a pick 2 who had slipped to 4 and they drafted him. You described what Toumpas went on to achieve while Ollie Wines went on to have a successful career, even winning a Brownlow.
Didn’t Angwin also get caught Breaking in and robbing his teammates houses?
This is such a damn well made video. Genuinely astounding, well done mate 👏
Jarrod Pickett was a big time bust, he went one pick after Brayshaw and one pick before de Goey in 2014
Played more than 100 games but Richard Tambling at No. 4 with Buddy at No. 5 is surely the biggest bust off all time
Tambling had talent and was a good player he played in a dud side he was very good on his day not his fault buddy went 5 and Richmond picked him
Maybe, but Fremantle took Chris Groom and passed on Andrew McLeod
And the Crows took Ken McGregor instead of Matthew Pavlich
@@wayneperry7413 Every club took someone other than Pav, he was overlooked in that years draft, It took another year of SANFL for his talent to become clear and then went early in the next years draft before Adelaide had any chance to get him.
@@wayneperry7413 Richmond took Aaron Fiora before Pav as well iirc
Nice video Riles! A few good shouts in there, Bennell would be very stiff to make the list after a few good years at the Gold Coast
Players who don’t make due to injuries don’t deserve to be on this list
It could be argued that Bennell was the biggest waste rather than bust.
Keep posting, I havent come since the gf. Will look forward seeing your content as the afl starts up (:
Special mentions for Cale Morton, Beau Dowler and David Trotter?
Then there’s Jack Trengrove…
That one should be top
also Jarrad Oakley Nicholls
Nobody wants to talk about big flop #1 Jack Watts
Cant wait for josh shache to join this list 😂
Jarrod oakley Nicholls
Great Editing like always, Looks like a great video too
Nota Dockers fan but Morabito was going to be or close to be rookie of the year in his first year, the fact the kid could never get his body right doesn't make hima bust, poor selection....
Great stuff, but I feel it’s a bit harsh to call a player crippled by injuries like morabito a “bust” as it was bad luck that ended his career, not lack of talent- he finished 2nd in the 2010 rising star-
Not a bad list but you've ruined it with Bennell at 1. How can a bloke who played 88 games and at times in his career was considered a top 50 player be a bigger bust than spuds that played 4 games? Absolutely ridiculous
Johno Patton
I stumbled across this video and thought!! There are many more names worthy of this list.
I will give you just 1. 😮
Jimmy Savage, drafted to the GWS, not sure of the exact year. He kicked their (GWS) 1st goal in a competitive hitout, a practice match. Didn’t make another appearance. Was de-listed for returning home to SA, to attend a birthday party! 🎉🎉🎉
Reckon Beau Dowler was stiff to miss out being a pick 6 who played 16 games in five years considering 13 of those were in one season. Will never forget the back to back top 10 draft busts in Dowler in 05 and Thorp in 06 as a Hawks fan.
From another big hawks fan, spot on.... Clarko & Wright/Buckenara didn't get much wrong, but those 2 picks were bad. Especially when Selwood was after Thorpe.
Thorp was stuck behind Franklin, Roughead and Williams. A tough forward line to break into. Even though the Hawks midfield was strong in that era, a number 6 pick should find himself a way to earn a game.
Keep up the awesome content bro 😎 💪
Tom Boyd number 1 and 50 games
Was thinking of putting him in but I couldnt really cause he won a flag and should've won a Norm Smith.
Good vid riles and it’s sad when players retire because injuries
True man, this video should nearly be titled be people that didn’t reach their potential because got injured. Not a very catchy UA-cam title but
Great video I would have had Matt Scharenberg in there he was spoken highly before drafted as being the next big thing.
Good vid. Would say Pickett was never a consensus top 5 pick. Was just taken thst early by Giants because they had a plethora of picks and talent around then and just did what they wanted with selections.
Could be any number of players. What this list illustrates just because they're drafted in a particular position, does not automatically infer they will go on and play 300 games. Draft day is just the beginning. Now the hard work begins, and I reckon fans often forget that point.
Daniel gorange?
Was thinking of putting him in, but since he was a pick 10, the other players in this video are a higher pick and most of them played less games than Gorringe.
@@RilesMacca yeah lol
@@RilesMacca also great vid btw
Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls DEFINITELY should have been in here somewhere. Plough had big raps on him but he just never got there. Stunned that Bennell is even on the list tbh.
Mccartin about to play in a grand final ! Talk about a turn around
Still can't work out how Richard Tambling played 124 AFL games
Yeah I was thinking of putting him in.
@@RilesMacca played too many games
@@TheCleaner76 Does that matter? He played 120 odd sub standard games and was picked a head of Lewis and Franklin.
He was playing in a very poor side. I reckon I would have got close to a game. Certainly would have put my head closer to the ball than him
Can't argue with your top 10. I will give you the cats top 10 bust which is a choice of 2 because of how scarce top 10 picks are for the cats. It has to be between Kane Tenace pick 7 2003 who managed 59 games in 6 seasons, & Nakia Cockatoo pick 10 2014 draft who managed 34 games in 4 seasons at the cats. I'm going to say Tenace because although injuries kept Cockatoo out of the team, Tenace skills kept him from getting a game although when he was drafted he was built up as being the next Gen running athlete built for the afl. Ultimately let cats supporters down.
This is very very interesting Riles! Would love to see some similar stuff
Aaron Fiona? Tambling? Waterhouse? Xavier Clarke? Freeman?
Outside of Freeman, they all played over a hundred… so they don’t fit the criteria here yeah?
Ridiculous call to have Bennell on this list, he proved many times to have star quality in the AFL, unlike everyone else named.
He just wasted his talent by making wrong decisions that’s why I have him on there.
@@RilesMacca would you call DeGoey a bust if he wasn't given a million chances by Collingwood? Certain clubs will tolerate things more while others wont. Bennell proved worthy of the pick talent wise. McCartin is far more deserving of the bust label than Harley.
@@nathjohn3158 De goey is still playing first off and he has had a much better career than Bennell so I wouldn’t call de goey a bust at all. McCartin yes I would call him a bust, but he doesn’t meet the criteria of the video cause he’s still actively playing. It’s a very controversial number 1 choice I know that’s why I chose him.
@@RilesMacca sorry I didnt hear that part of the criteria, my bad I would have had Jack Martin and Schache over Bennell as a bust also despite them still playing. I just think we just define bust differently , a lot of these guys shouldn't have been picked as high as they were, thats what I define it as, where with Bennell I saw why he was. Remember the game vs Geelong when playing for the GC, something like 28 possies and 6 goals. Looked a top 3 player in the COMP that night.
As a Dees fan, great job nailing Molan and Toumpas, spot on with both, disappointed Lucas Cook missed out on a deserving spot on the list coz picked just outside the top 10 he might be the biggest bust of all Melbourne's and we have a lot of them.
Love your work mate.
Toumpas is burning it up now in SANFL, always a star at that level, but never up to the big league. Hint to recruiters, never judge a bloke just on a fantastic SANFL grand final, as Melbourne recruiters did.
The Toump was taken in the same draft that Melbourne took Jack Viney as a father son in the second round. For me when you consider who is a bust you look at who you ignored as an option. In this case surely it is Ollie Wines. The decision is even worse when you consider that Ollie and Jack Viney were great mates as kids and played Junior footy together. Unforgivable to think the Melbourne list manager was Todd Viney who surely knew the potential Ollie had. The only way this pick could be forgiven is if you think that if we got Ollie there’s a chance we don’t end up with Oliver and Petracca
@@tiborsol6376 Dees were keen on Ollie. But then saw Toump slide down the draft and took him. Toump was rated highly by everyone. I guess it's a lesson that you should go for what you see as valuable, and not necessarily what others think is good.
Or a NAB league highlight video ala Sam Blease
Good video mate.
Who the heck is luke Molan wow we really had a bad era of drafting
great vid u should do a draft steal vid
Not a complete bust ,but Jonathon Patton,,,never really got going..well not on the field ..he did in other pursuits....
As an Essendon fan, I would happily go back in time to 2006 and lose the Bryce Gibbs Cup and finish with the spoon, if it meant not having to end up with Scott Fumbleton (spelling intentional)
If I were to submit a name not covered here, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls was a diabolical bust. Pick 8 in 2005, played 13 games for the Tigers (and then none at West Coast) and remembered as possibly the worst Richmond player this century, which is a high bar.
Paddy McCartin certainly hasn't been a bust for us at the swans
Pronunciation on point
Nathan Freeman from Collingwood would have to be up there
I think if you excluded players still on an AFL list because they could still potentially have a good career you should also have excluded players like Morabito or Gumbleton whose careers were only ruined by serious injury. Players like Gorringe, Toumpas, Watts and Pickett who have no excuses are the biggest busts
Yeah that’s a fair point, I still included those players anyway because a bust is a bust. It’s harsh but I still reckon If a players ruined by injury they’re still a bust.
@@RilesMacca I dont necessarily disagree that they are busts but I personally think they rank lower than somebody who was given every opportunity to perform and still didnt. With a bit of injury luck who knows how good Morabito or Gumbleton could have been? Maybe they could have been Brownlow and Coleman medalists whereas we know guys like Toumpas for whatever reason just werent very good
You are kidding yourself naming Jack Watts in this group. Are you aware he had a 174 game career? Did you ever even personally watch one of them. While obviously not among the best number one picks he had a decent footy career finishing in the top 6 in the b and f regularly. In his draft year the obvious better number one pick was Nic Nat. Having said that had they picked Nic Nat, who went pick 2, it was obvious he would have done his two years then gone home to WA. Melbourne had Mark JAMAR, who went on to be All Australian in 2010. They also had a young kid they liked and had as a rookie. If they take Nic Nat they certainly don’t keep that kid. You may have heard of him, his name is Max Gawn.
Jack Watts was a good player, not great but certainly not a bust. In fairness to him look what he was thrown into. Expected as an underage recruit to come straight in and carry the team, a very weak team at that. Imagine what might have been if he came in to what a player like Luke Jackson has walked into.
Still not convinced? When Melbourne finally traded Watts it was to Port for their first second round pick. Pick 31 overall. With that they took a kid from Coldstream called Bailey Fritsch. He’s just kicked Six goals in a grand final and won a flag.
Come on Jayden, at least have a look and educate yourself next time so you don’t make a goose of yourself
@@tiborsol6376 ok you're clearly a Dees supporter and I've hit a nerve there. Yes I am aware Watts wouldn't have fit in the less than 100 game criteria and I am also aware he had talent which just makes him a bust all the more. Watts was potentially the most hyped no. 1 pick of all time until Rowell and never delivered on half of it. Yeah he played over 150 games at Melbourne but it's mainly cos as you rightly pointed out he was unlucky enough to be drafted to an absolute basket case of a club that didn't have any depth whatsoever to put pressure on his spot. As soon as he got to Port it was very clear he was just an ok player that had coasted through his career to that point and big shock, he did nothing at Port despite the fact he should have been in his prime and was surrounded by a better side to take the pressure off him. Yeah he was thrown in the deep end but so are lots of young players, Nick Daicos already has that same level of pressure put on him when Collingwood came out halfway through last year and said hed be getting a game with them already if they were allowed, and Matt Rowell walked into the worst team since the 09 Dees and was nearly the Brownlow favourite after 4 games. You can try and justify or defend him all you like but Jack Watts was, maybe somewhat unfortunately, the most disappointing number 1 pick of all time and a massive bust.
Ps. Turning the compo pick 31 from his trade into a good player is a credit to the recruiting team at the time and has less than nothing to do with Watts himself.
@@jaydenatkin7241 Mate you would have to do a fair bit to upset a Dees supporter at the moment. Probably my main point about Jack is that for those of us that actually watched a lot of his footy we know he was actually a decent enough player. He’s probably the most maligned player in history and most people who saw for themselves rather than just co opted some harsh opinions from a few journalists and past players would know that. It was always weird that people were so negative about him. I’m not saying he was any better than a bit above serviceable but assessments like worst ever number 1 are crazy stuff. I think he might have Richard Loundner, Anthony Banik, John Parker and even Pat Mccartin covered. The crap surrounding Jack has been around from very early on. Think of his first game where everyone says he just got monstered by Collingwood players the first time he went near the ball. Interesting that nobody says he contested the ball, won it, got a free for a high tackle and then kicked it inside 50 and a goal was scored, it’s obviously a better story to say he got monstered, certainly there are enough fools around to just fall into that because they don’t know any better. When we traded Jack we got Bailey Fritsch who kicked six in a GF and is a premiership player. Nic Nat who was taken at number 2 behind Jack is more of a highlight real than a consistent player and notably is not a premiership player
Nice vid
Tambling and McCartin are surely 1 and 2?
Both players didn’t meet the criteria.
Mitch Thorp is a player coach for launceston footy club in the TSL and is a fkn gun
A "Bust" is a high draft pick that plays a relatively healthy career like 100+ games but is only ever and average player. Nearly every single player on this list has had their career effected from injury...thats not a bust. The players career projection and expectation changes as soon as they get injured no matter where they were drafted.
Yeah that’s a fair call. But in my opinion even though it’s harsh, a talented player who kept on getting injured for me is still a bust.
I don't think the term is meant as a reflection on bad picks. A 'bust' may have been an excellent pick but it's simply a reflection on how the pick worked out in the end.
What about Tambling?
Doesn't meet the criteria for the video
Tambling and Dowler?
Tambling played over 100 games
Paddy McCartin still a draft bust, as he retired from the Game for 2 years and St's got nothing from him. even if he plays 150 quality games as far as the his initial drafting he will always be a bust.
say that again because your comment aged well
@@toxicpoison-j8t aged quite well. Saints invested pick 1 for him and got 35 games with no draft/trade return
@@The_Tradie_Trainer he returned back 2022 and had his best season and was key in sydney swans backline and probably one of the best apart from lloyd and blakey in the defence last year but he got concussed this year without concusiions he would have at least 120 games to his name and st kilda should have got petracca 1st pick because he was projected 1st then Jarrod Pickett 2nd and Paddy Mccartin 3rd
@@toxicpoison-j8t
1) Sydney’s backline; not St Kilda who drafted him and got nothing in the way of players/picks from Sydney in return
2) He did get concussed though and hasn’t played 120 games
As it stands St Kilda got 35(?) games out of their pick 1 (bust) while Sydney have gotten 28 games out of a rookie pick which would be considered a win.
Fwiw #1 picks play an average of 157 games and Paddy has managed less than half of that in his whole career, and a quarter of that if you look at his return as a number 1 draft pick.
Tambling doesn’t get a mention?
Doesn't meet the criteria for the video.
Lol How did Tambling 108 games of footy for the tiges? I did not realise that
My pick and I don’t know if it counts in the time frame is Jared Brennan, pick 3, 2002.
Why Brennan is the biggest bust, because he genuinely could’ve been great he had superstar talent when he kicked 7 goals against Collingwood at the MCG in 2003 (a year in which Collingwood were grand finalists) it was on full display.
He never lived even slightly up to his potential the X-Factor was in there but it only came out one or maybe two times.
Chris Yarran, Dursma, Stack
Paddy McCartin? Richard Tambling? Aaron Fiora?
Those players didn't meet the criteria for the video.
@@RilesMacca McCartin is in the thumbnail. Great video.
@@TomMarvan part of the clickbait mate 😉 glad you enjoyed
I think it's pretty stiff to have guys who had their careers destroyed by injuries only in this list, dont get me wrong in hindsight they were obviously busts but in my opinion a player like Jimmy Toumpas, Jack Watts, Harley Bennell or Daniel Gorringe are far bigger busts than someone like Morrabito or Gumbleton cos they have no excuses to blame.
Watts played 174 games. Hardly a bust. And he was probably given the worst introduction to AFL in the worst possible side in the last 23 years.
Melbourne got a quick 2 in the top 10 🤣
We were the champs of draft busts
Bennell was let go from the Dees at the end of 2020, not 2021.
Good video took me down memory lane with some of these
I reckon it's a bit unfair to put players on here that didn't live up to the hype due to injury. That was just something that wasn't in their control. I would've preferred to see more players that didn't live up to the hype due to just being shit or average.
Basically a list of Top 10 draft picks that were always injured and couldnt improve themselves.
Yes and no, some were just pure wastes of talents that had no injuries. It’s harsh but in my eyes a bust is still a player that kept on getting injured.
Before this time,,,but Richard Lownder,,,at Rich ,,courtesy of coaching and Rules of Game committee genius???? Kevin Bartlett...in early 90's
Its a harsh call but i do understand your number 1. Bennell is EASILY the most purely talented player on this list. Stats weren't as bad as some others but his career was so disappointing as a whole.
Richard Tambling is the biggest bust ever in my opinion
I was thinking of putting him in but he played over 100 games.
as soon as you said Morabito it stung 😫
Sadly, Travis Tuck. With all respect.
Morabito was cruelled by injury felt sorry for him
Don't consider players who's career's were ruined by injuries a failures.
It’s hard too, but if you’re not playing cause of injury, your not playing. Sure their careers could’ve been a lot better if they weren’t injured, but they’re still technically a bust.
Don't agree with the no 1 pick for bust.
Good vid though. I enjoyed that one !
Mccartain was a bust in terms of value, but he really couldn’t help it, and hes going great for the swannies
Toumpas would always be mucking around in warm-ups before games. Not everyone is as serious and dedicated as Brendon Goddard, but Jimmy looked unprofessional.
Just Put the Blues draft Picks as the worst decisions ever.
Geez, pick 4 is a poison chalice, no 2 not far behind
A bloke who played 88 games is the worst draft bust? Get off the gear mate
Sydney picking Dylan Stephens at #5 in 2019 ahead of Caleb Serong and Hayden Young is something Kinnear Beatson should never live down. A very below average player …
I think Riley Dunn over Anthony Morabito less games 0 goals was a foward
Jason laycock should have been on that list!
Geez Harley at number one bit harsh considering all the other bums before him probably didn't even poll a Brownlow vote. Have to agree to disagree with you there mate
Yeah nah fair point man, it is for sure a controversial choice. His injuries, drugs use and off the field dramas is why I have him pick 1.
@@RilesMacca interesting video none the less
Jonathan O'Rourke was a bigger bust than Bennell
@@scdingundaroo Fair call, Bennell had a massive amount of talent but wasted it from injuries and off the field dramas, that’s why I find him as such a significant bust. Could’ve been a great player if he didn’t make the wrong choices. That’s why I have him 1.
Pretty sure Gumbleton also played for Fremantle
Yeah he did, didn't play a game for them however.
Here me out right Patrick Dangerfield.. all the money no flags 😆
this didnt age well mate
JHF future bust
Surely Luke Hodge at pick 1 is the biggest bust
I biased being an Eagles fan, Andrew McDougall, pick no 4 in 2000, played four games I think.
43 games
Doesn’t seem right to include players who were chronically injured.
Fair enough in my opinion it is harsh but I feel they are busts.
As much as I hate Carlton that swipe at paddy dow was harsh he's really not that bad
Yeah it was an over exaggerated take haha, I don't think hes too bad either. Just that a lot of people and a few I know hate him.
He’s a good seconds player, but there are many like that around who aren’t good enough for senior football. Senior AFL is a tough game to make it in …
You don’t want to be on this list…
Pain.
Nathan freeman
Gumby still hurts.
Yeah bit harsh on the poor fellah. Had the world at his feet just couldn't get onto the paddock
When you hear the stories of these boys, this video has a pretty gross feel
Jarred Brennan was a wasted talent.
First
Just beat me, damn
Aussie football should be boycotted until they apologise to folau
What are you talking about?
Folau played Rugby not Aussie Rules
@@joeblow8994 played with GWS for 2 seasons I think...had no business there
What would the AFL need to apologise to Folau for?
Well thats a stupid