Big Dairy Uses Big Gov't to Stomp Small Farms
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Oregon wants to regulate small farms like large commercial dairies. Why? Not because of real environmental concerns, but because large commercial dairies insist that small dairies somehow have a “competitive advantage” over big ones-that is, that they don’t have to install expensive infrastructure to manage waste.
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But small dairies don’t need that infrastructure because the amount of waste generated can safely decompose in fields or be composted for other productive use. The state is wrapping small dairies in meaningless red tape just to please big dairies.
That is protectionist, irrational and, moreover, unconstitutional.
Sarah, and three other small farmers, are now teaming up with the Institute for Justice to file a lawsuit against the Oregon Department of Agriculture and save small dairy farms in the Beaver State.
IJ is the most important civil rights advocacy organization in the US.
IJ and big dairy are republican supporters, who do you think the repulicans are going to let win?
Save her farm.
Buy local! Boycott those big companies!
If everyone starts buying from small companies, they will become large companies and we will be right back where we started from. We a need a decrease in population so we dont need big industry.
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@roygbiv5164
You are as bad as big government.
@@roygbiv5164there needs to be less waste.
@@roygbiv5164 you might get a few whackjobs to go along here but how you gonna convince china or india? The earth needs more people as without the lard pool of people you will get no new innovation to solve our problems.
Specifically the big dairy corps are why they've been attacking raw milk producers and trying to ban raw milk sales. You even have insane milk "cops" that go around and try to find casual meetups of small markets where, under the threat of calling the police, they force customers to pour all the milk out from purchased items. I mean these people really take pride in their job serving these dairy giants, it's absolutely stunning.
When people take them to court they try to gaslight the judge by saying that "no human has the right to a particular type of food and people do not have a right to health". That is their position.
Yes that's who they are. It's absolutely stunning. We don't have the right to choose what goes into our own body or even know what types of elements it contains, such as in GMOs. That's right- freedom of choice and freedom to control our own bodies and life is not a principle that the big business overlords are will recognize- because of course then it means that they can't restrict these rights or take them away.
Fortunately they haven't been successful everywhere, but most states still do not allow the sale of raw milk, claiming it to be unsafe, which is an absolute crock of shit. It's commercial dairies that are the ones that will produce unsafe conditions; small dairies and a small farmers care for their animals and always keep them in far superior conditions then you'll ever find in any CAFOs.
I was born to baby-boomer parents, when women were so 'newly liberated' that they scoffed at actually breastfeeding. As an infant I grew increasingly more ill (raspy breathing, extreme congestion) and eventually the family doctor speculated that it might have something to do with the pasteurized milk I was being fed. So, as a last resort, my parents ignored all of the fear-mongering surrounding raw milk and began feeding me fresh milk from a Jersey cow and all my "health issues" went away. To this day I have to be very cautious around pasteurized milk products. I obviously have a much stronger reaction that most people, but I can't imagine something as heavily processed as modern commercially available milk products are having any health benefits at all.
It's a shame to me that those so called cops ever make it home after pulling that. It's treason, what they are doing. Arbitrarily abridging fundamental rights and liberties under color of law and under threat of force is high treason, and citizens may defend themselves at will against such violation of the law by gov.
With the state of corruption, you will not get a trial, but a show. I'm always impressed by folks like IJ. How they get anything done in this era of u.s. gov is beyond me.
@@PureMagma I'm sure Louis Pasteur had the best of intentions, but I believe that he mistook the issues with the bad milk during his time to the milk itself and not other causes such as sick cows and poor storage.
It is my opinion that pasteurized milk is like dead milk.
Fine if you just want a drink, but I believe there are lots of great health compounds in raw unprocessed milk. At a minimum, consumers to deserve a choice.
I believe in the mission of the Westin A. Price foundation.
It's awesome to hear that your health issues made a rapid rebound after consuming raw milk. There's a lot of intentional and unintentional fear-mongering out there about our food supply. Your folks deserve a lot of credit for being willing to question all of that. It can be scary to question the dominant assumptions of our time.
And of course I believe breast milk for babies is best, if at all possible.
I currently take a raw milk colostrum supplement powder. It's a little pricey but I feel it's really benefiting my health. Raw milk is pretty pricey near me but I buy it when I can. I like the taste, it's rich and tastes more vital than standard milk. Fortunately it's legal here in CA. I'm sure if the conventional dairy big shots had their wish it wouldn't be.
I've also noticed that conventionally processed whole milk seems thinner than I remember as a kid. I wonder if they're increasing their water content in their final product. Seems like it.
Sorry responder #1, UA-cam isn't showing me your response for some weirdness.
@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago "I was the second responder. Don't worry. It was censored by youtube. They didn't outright delete because everything I said was perfectly lawful and didn't violate tos. They didn't like the ideas I conveyed however, and that simply can't be allowed to be viewed. "What if people knew that had a lawful right to physically combat the tyranny of the treasonous? What if people knew that's the real reason we hate the constitution and bill of rights?"
Tis the way of the world. Now I have to default to skirting censor with punctuation." Expert sooth interpreter.
Thank you for covering this. The changes to Oregon's CAFO description affect more than just small dairy producers. Other types of livestock and market gardens are also affected. These small farms are not polluting the public water and this is really about government control and trying to shut down small famers and eliminate people's choice to grow or buy good healthy local food.
there is a bit of misinformation here, when they say government they mean republican government. big dairy aka HAZENBERG DAIRY
SAINT PAUL, 97137 are republican donors, Institute for Justice are liberterian which is republican. the ones who are pushing for regulating this business is prob DRAZAN, CHRISTINE (R). when all sides are republican i thinking the one with the most donated money (big dairy) wins.
Same thing is going on with Beef farmers too.
I had a small cow calf operation for several years and every time I sold calves I never got a decent price because I was not one of the good ole boys at the local stock yards so I went to selling to locals and said screw the stock yards
IJ and big dairy are republican supporters, who do you think the repulicans are going to let win?
It's never corrupt when government suddenly decides to reinterpret laws rather then pass or rescind laws....
Nope but paid, corrupted lawyers sure taint their image. 😅
It's kind of crazy. I used to be part owner of a small zoo. One USDA inspector told me it isn't his job to write the regulations. It's his job to enforce them whether they make sense or not. The USDA required one zoo to provide fresh water to its seals even though seals live in the ocean and therefore do not drink fresh water. The zoo brought a bucket of fresh water to the seals every day. The seals ignored it.
My zoo had a small herd of deer living in a large tree lot. The USDA gave us a citation because the deer could drink from puddles on the ground after a heavy rain. Where do you think wild deer get a drink? We always had fresh water dispensers available for the deer but they preferred the puddles.
Don't think. That is not allowed. If it is written in the regulations, their job is to enforce it.
You also need to remove those people that thought that was a good idea as they know nothing about the industry they're presiding over. And check their bank info one time.
IJ and big dairy are republican supporters, who do you think the repulicans are going to let win?
Well managed livestock on well-managed pasture need zero interventions. Healthy soil biomes safely handles waste including dung beetles breaking up and sequestering manure, carbon, etc.
Soil is now understood to be dependent on soil life for fertility, pathogen suppression, weed and insect control, etc. To think of soil as merely chemicals and livestock as number of units in a barn or pen is to have missed new soil science of the last 40 years, too.
It should be said that products from livestock grazed on diverse pasture are more nutritious, and the animals are healthier and happier as well. Consumers need to choose better at the supermarket.
Shame on rpthe government for going after these ethical smallholdings that are using restorative ag techniques.
What you and @YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago and @PureMagma and @litigioussociety4249 mentioned are just a few of the reasons to consider welcoming anything in the course of history, whatever its other characteristics, that can and will wipe out the socio-political order, that benefits "economic man" (at the expense of spiritual, upright man) and maintains him.
The animals on these small farms are NOT CONFINED!
They aren’t in the big ones either typically
@@Beyonder8335. Factory farms are.
@@cathytilford388 perhaps but factory farms are a small minority of the industry and not representative of everything else.
Read the full legislation. It's way more than simple confinement. They even describe anyone of a number of "surfaces" that you may have.
we call em illegal aliens. Calling them animals is a little harsh but it is a problem.
For more examples of government overreach into these small farms, just trying to live how we always have, read Joel Salatin's "Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal".
Got the book. Thx
Almost all bureaucrats suck. I wanted to open a bagel shop in the state of Nevada. I found a location that had a been a restaurant. Figured it would cost me about 75K in equipment, minor construction etc. Ha! The state listed the "requirements" for me to open in a previous restaurant space:
1: new transformers on the outside pole: 15K (I was not going to upgrade any electrical)
2: new 1 inch gas line, replacing 3/4 line: 25K (I was not going to use more than normal gas)
3: new balanced air exhaust hood and HVAC: 55K (could not use the old hood and heater for the space)
4: rip out existing bathrooms and make them 7.5x7.5: 30K (they had the minimum 55" turn around for ADA, but were not "exactly" 7.5x7.5)
5: submit full menu with all food products being tested for health: 10K (list all ingredients and have them lab tested for fat, caloric intake etc.)
Basically, 150K+, just to "comply" with regulations on an existing space.
Even more than this. And by the time I was finished "complying" I would have had "permission" for 1 each, 27" round table with two chairs. I told them to pound sand.
It's called regulatory capture, big business lobbies for the regulations thay they can profitably comply with, or are already in compliance with, that their competitors cannot. It's been going on for over a century. Agriculture has been infected by it for a very long time, and it's basically the job of the USDA to protect big business. The worst culprits seek licensing, certification, etc. to eliminate non-profit competitors, such as the AMA did in the 1920s to eliminate many infirmaries and free clinics.
Good points.
Whenever I see and hear about cases like these my immediate thoughts go to "Chevron Doctrine" writ large, paving the way for the Leviathan of State and Federal kleptocrats to steamroll the smallest entrepreneurial operation out of existence and simultaneously stripping people of their God given rights.
My understanding is that the SCOTUS is reviewing the previous opinions on Chevron Doctrine, but, I'm not going to hold my breath in hopes for a reversal? Why? As an example, I recently listened/watched a video of a short interview with Justice Kagan on the issue of Civil Asset Forfeiture (the incidents of which are on the rise). In the interview Kagan said, ".....we know there are abuses of the system.....but....." And that was how she ended the discussion. You should have seen the look on her face. It was that of a hollowed out soul. You could see she was trying to reason through the fact that C.A.F. is nothing other than outright theft conducted by "govern-ment officials" but it's so lucrative that how is the SCOTUS going to spin a decision that will justify the "govern-ment" keeping all those billions of dollars.
Makes one wonder if we still reside in a Federalist Republic as established by our Constitution or, are we living in a kakistocracy? It may sell be the latter?
yup and Meanwhile Oregon brings in stray (and sick) dogs from other States. How much water is used for these dogs in shelters and rescues? Shelters and Rescues that are paid for by tax money (501c3) How much dog waste goes into the waterways? How much water is used by dog groomers? ua-cam.com/video/9anQmgzoDWM/v-deo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
Another example of a bureaucracy making rules (that are NOT laws) and enforcing them without legislative authority to do either.
Man I’m so tired of it. I’ve decided to just do what I want.
Legislative branch makes the laws, Judicial branch interprets the law, and the executive branch in forces the law. It’s balance of power 101. Bureaucrats shouldn’t do all three.
God bless them in standing up to this ridiculous overreach. !
We donate to IJ and our money is well spent. Thank you IJ.
I'll no longer be donating. IJ has started actively censoring comments on their UA-cam channel.
An organization that doesn't practice what they preach, especially when it comes to our most important right, speech, doesn't deserve our support any longer.
Yeah .. automatic monthly donation just went out this morning. Go get em IJ!
Wish I could. TY for doing so. IJ rocks. ❤
I'm happy to be able to support them as well. They're doing the Lord's work, for sure.
IJ and big dairy are republican supporters, who do you think the repulicans are going to let win?
The right to earn an honest living should been included in the Bill of Rights. Giant corporations are using government regulations all the time to crush small businesses.
Pursuit of happiness should cover that.
@@katiekane5247 "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is a phrase from The Declaration of Independence which is a separate document from the Constitution and "pursuit of happiness" doesn't appear in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.
The Declaration of Independence was notice given to the British government and it is historically important and aspirational in regards to the American identity and what the American government should be all about but it not a governing document with any legally binding power. That would be the Constitution.
Amendment IX.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Reminds me when they raided an Amish farm last month because they sold organic milk.
His name is Amos Miller. It's the old David and Goliath story. Hopefully Amos and other farmers like him will prevail in the end.
They don't want anyone that is able to be self sufficient, self sustainable.
It's for your protection...lol
@daveblackman816 You may already be aware, it's the same family operation the Feds raided a couple years ago, as another commenter rightly stated, that of Amos Miller.
Is the Amish community going to fight back?
@@Strideo1 That's exactly why the Miller family's farming operation has been raided a second time. They have been fighting back since the first raid.
I feel your pain. Here in British Columbia the same thing happened with the window manufacturing industry. We had a small shop that specialized in manufacturing single glazed windows for historic buildings. The big window producers got together with the Federal Government mandating all windows had to be double glazed and the jambs weather proof enough to pass stringent tests. Please keep fighting for the little guy.
In Canada it is illegal for small farmers to sell milk if they don't have a quota. The large corporate farms have the government beaurocrats in their back pocket. A person can have one cow and it's illegal to even sell milk to their friends. This is totally outrageous!
If the big companies are concerned to this degree, they should be held financially responsible for this boondoggle.
This is why we donate to IJ. The thought of big government operation at the whim of big business is terrifying to us.
This exactly what happened in Canada… Don’t let this S*** happen.
I would qualify use of the word "exactly" but when Canada created the dairy producer controlled supply-side management organizations in the early 1970's, my grandparents who had a single milk cow were forbidden to keep it or to sell milk or buy a new milk cow. Overproduction of milk in both the USA and Canada has been a recurring problem for more than a century and use of hormones to increase production in the USA has not helped USA dairymen because it increases supply that is banned in many countries. There were milk strikes in the USA in the the 1930's and the 1940's that prompted President Roosevelt to give a speech on overproduction, underproduction and speculation. Just a few years ago, dairymen in the USA had an overproduction problem that led to low prices that put many dairymen out of business and resulted in the USA government buying $20 million dollars worth of cheese to add to surplus government cheese in underground caverns and trying to revise NAFTA to get rid of Canada's supply-side management system while globally there was an overproduction problem with European Union milk powder and numerous milk strikes and protests in Africa, and India and bans on imported cheese.
To much Government. Thank God for IfJ!!
Big dairy traded this "unfair competitive advantage" for economy of scale.
Exactly. And with their windfall revenue they hired lobbyists.
@@JustinPulliam They were clearly digging for a loophole to abuse in the antitrust laws, if you ask me. Now, we gotta close it with some indestructium.
I am all in favor of small farmers, their products, and the care they have for their animals and their land. I have donated to IJ more than once, and will continue to do so.
Thank you for everything you do to fight the ridiculous, constant government interference in our lives! Gid bless you and protect and aid you!
This is why we need more bureaucrats! We just don't know how to spend all the money we don't need.🙄
SCOTUS is discussing Chevron deference case that allows these rouge ABC agencies to make rules as they see fit rather than just applying laws as passed. Hopefully SCOTUS will rule in favor of We The People but considering we have socialist justices, it's a toss up. If not then we may have to rely on the 2nd Amendment to rightfully make the government fear We The People again.
Did the person @ Oregons dept of AG who reinterpreted this law
get a check from big dairy? Time for Oregon bureau id investigation
to check on some bank account activity of ALL dept of AG employees.
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As a hoof trimmer for large dairies in Oregon I’m just now hearing about this. Don’t believe any of my costumers would support such a bill.
Go small business,local,ownwership(not renting from criminal government),and for Humanity not control over it.Whatever governments are spewing out go the opposite way and you'll be right on track.
Almost all government regulation and rules are about barriers to entry to protect others with the most money. I have family members that have a small grass fed beef ranch. The pressure for corporate integration of agriculture is tremendous. The small agriculture farms and ranches are quickly becoming a thing of the past, as large corporate operations that span across nations (not just states) are actively trying to suppress small independent ranchers and farmers.
Sad
We need less government, We need to be able to buy straight from the small producer, meat, fish, honey, eggs vegetables. with out competition we are forced to deal with big producers.
We need less corporate money/dark money going to campaigns. But money is now free speech and those whose "speech" is biggest make the rules. Smaller government won't stop that.
Basically every single dairy farm in Virginia has closed
Yeah because that was the whole idea of government that's exactly what they wanted and Farmers complied like they always do when it comes to poisoning our food.
@@JohnAdams-mu7xd💯 I know more than one farmer who punched their own ticket over the government running their generationally owned family run farms. They tried to make us fence off every creek that bordered our land because "cow manure is polluting the water" ...as if every time a cow poops or pees they run to the creek and do it there, not to mention, it was never a problem before. We got out of doing it for now, but they're still after us about it. We have beef cows. Also, creeks are at the bottom of hills, when it rains 2 inches of rain in 24 hours, where do they think the poop and pee runs to... It's just to try and shove us out.
@@JohnAdams-mu7xdI typed out a 2 paragraph response to you just now, detailing how they've tried to run us out and other farms in our area and UA-cam removed the comment in less than 30 seconds...
@@JohnAdams-mu7xdUA-cam keeps removing my response to you when I try to explain what's happening to us...
@@hastyhillfarmand4x480 we know what's happening to you the same thing that's happening to us they're terrorizing us and we continue to comply.
I really just can't with stories like this. I get so angry.
THE INSTITUTE FOR JUSTICE SHOULD LOOK IN TO THE AMOS MILLER CASE IN PA
There is a charity in Texas that helps farmers convert their operations. Rowdy Girl Sanctuary owned by Renee King Sonnen. She's amazing.
Go get em IJ I really hope this all works out for these farmers i respect what you do IJ whole heartedly much love from New Zealand guy's
Those silver-laced Wyandottes are gorgeous!
Big business is not our savior America. Corporations care about one thing, making money! We forget that at our peril.
The cows are lacking the mRNA in them. Can’t have that!
mRNA? If cows or you didn't have mRNA in them you couldn't live because without mRNA there wouldn't be proteins and with that anything down the line🤔
Ah, now here's a tin foil hat comment.
@@virginiamoss7045 and here’s someone who can’t read sarcasm.
@@virginiamoss7045man, yall really have to stop throwing around the “tin foil” term. It’s embarrassing at how much it’s used and often, not in the right context at all.
Love the IJ and the work they do. There does need to be a line between small and large farming operations. Obviously 3 cows does not have enough the impact of 1000 cows, but where do you draw the line? Any line drawn will be arbitrary and anybody operating near the line will either be hosed or have unfair advantage. Part of me misses the days we were all just small farms.
The line is easy to determine. We have naturally had literally millions of bovine living with zero regulations, shitting and pissing everywhere and they did not ever harm the environment for tens of thousands of years. We call them bison and in Africa they call them buffalo.
The environmental damage occurs when you have very large numbers tightly caged and housed very densely where they are shitting and pissing in the same spot 24/7/365. Free range livestock have never been a problem, and in modern times they are not going to suddenly and magically going to start harming it.
Free range farm animals have been a thing for thousands of years literally. If animals can't just sit and piss in a field without destroying the environment, all life on Earth would have went extinct and humans would have never existed .
A huge problem in this country thank you for sticking up for the little guy
"Unfair competitive advantage" of a small farm... what kind of lunacy is that?
I love that you guys stand up for the little guy
And there's an equivalent to this malicious regulation in nearly every industry I've tried to be involved with. I wish I had known about the IJ years ago.
Common sense would consider the stocking density. It’s probably safest at this point to be unemployed and play video games in government housing. Working is a crime.
If working is a crime, living is also a crime. Same for not having a job.... I hate extreme capitalism.
The irony is by having to put in all that infrastructure in it's actually worse for the environment due to all the materials and related emissions with implementing it.
in cal. d.a. said my raw milk deserves the same level of scrutiny as meth production. raw milk is a trace mineral and nuetient delivery methode. your food is the medicine. monopolizing the food supply is not new. big dairy big farm fast food of death. happy armagedon and good luck
As a small car dealership in California we are subject to the same costs and bonds and insurance and regulations of big dealers it's about the big guys taking out the small one
Yes it's very sad and enraging. I've watched several explosive documentaries on this issue. It's incredibly tragic. Basically state and federal regulators are ruthless thugs (or do their best imitation of one) and seemed to take special pleasure in destroying or attempting to destroy the small family operations in their jurisdiction. It's utterly bizarre. You have to wonder how they got to be that way I mean it's. .. it's nothing that any normal human being with a normal conscience and a rational brain would behave like.
The small competitor and the small business is at risk in every industry. Around me I see them going after small cannabis shops and getting them shut down or forcing them to move across the county or switch to a delivery-only platform. Of course I know this problem goes far beyond just legal weed shops.
So long as you have dirty judges and disgusting State Police Pigs and local police that will do the will of these corrupt judges without question, whose judges will then obey the corrupt policies of shamelessly bought-and-sold politicians and industry regulators, then we're going to have a problem.
Small operators in every industry are at real risk. Big business is a ginormous ruthless cartel in this country and they have their fingers everywhere. If small operators come under fire by a big player, they always seems to be those in government or enforcement that will be more than happy to target them without a a second thought.
Once you're attacked by these people you can stop being naive. I hope nobody watches these shorts ever says back the blue. As I always say, don't say back to Blue they will never ever back you. They exist to thief serve and protect themselves at YOUR expense. and if you're not a big player AKA a big corporate big shot in some way or another, the local state or federal agencies almost certainly don't give a flying f*** about you and, if convenient or if they need to just help themselves to some quick cash may come and raid your business on alleged Petty violations, or just make new ones up on the spot. That's how they've been attacking all the small independent cannabis shops in my area.
Unfortunately these people have no conscience. Their predators. If they see you as easy game they're going to target you.
We can make better laws and that's one good step forward if we could ever get there, which it seems like we can't, but again, everything depends upon enforcement and justice in the courts and that is something I have seen is just as rare in this place.
I'm not sure what the perfect solution is but we have to keep fighting for one that's for sure.
Small operators in every industry are under attack by corporate predators and those who work for them and this shouldn't be allowed to stand.
It's really stunning that these dogs who work for these corporate scum can do what they do. What kind of country do they want to see, I mean why are they so loyal, it's something I would ask? I mean do they think only large corpus deserve to do business? It's truly a mindfuck. I'm just curious what their end goal is. If they even have one. Put every small and medium-sized operator out of business? It's amazing too because these giant corporates are making money hand over fist and yet that's still not enough for them.
And the fact that they actually find protection and enablement from policy makers, local enforcement judges agencies is what really gets me. This sickness is served by these people. It really is amazing to me. They seem to have zero awareness of what they're doing or could care less. What in the world would possess any human being to attempt to significantly harm or deprived another small operation of the right to make a living!?!?!? They're living in honest lifestyle trying to live off of their honest labor, harming nobody and they are certainly not commanding a large market share. There's more than enough market share out there for large players, medium-sized regionals or smaller corps, and small mom and pop operations
It's just a mind fuck It's just an absolute mind blow.
Edit: sorry for the rough unedited text to speech transcript everyone. Editing on a phone is such a pain.
Satan is the ruler of this world and greedy psychopaths are his children.
Satan is the ruler of this world and greedy psychopaths are his children.
Satan is the ruler of this world and greedy psychopaths are his children.
Satan is the ruler of this world and greedy psychopaths are his children.
Satan is the ruler of this world and greedy psychopaths are his children.
This all started in the 1970's maybe even later, I remember the government going around and offering Dairy's we'll pay you to not milk. I know of 4 small dairy's closed up and took the check so now there is only 3 Dairy's and this is from a small town in Oregon also.
You get what you vote for…
We also get what we DESERVE , because we deserve what we tolerate .
The problem is no one of good intentions runs for office anymore so the choices are the least evil of the choices so don't blame me or anyone else. Good and proper leadership is missing entirely.
The Republican and Democratic parties in this country are both corrupt. It's way past time for some new political parties to emerge.
Voting is a joke. Both sides support zionist banking interests. If you can't understand the esoteric messages behind their symbols then you will never wake up. This world is run by Satan/saturn and not a single one of your "politicians" follow Christ or his teachings. But their "fourth industrial revolution " (beast system) is coming very soon. Not spreading schizophrenic paranoia because even king donald trump supports zionist interest. After all he is the "godfather of the vaccines". Im sure the 13 illuminated families and blackrock (vanguard too) would agree too . (I almost forgot shabbos goyim🥱 🗿)
People in the larger urban areas don't have clue what life is all about , they vote for these idiots that mismanage the truth, ,, socialism!!!!!
We have to support these small farmers
Thanks for sticking up for the little guy IJ.
Antitrust laws would of prevent this move, transparency in lobbying and regulation would also help.
If SCOTUS overturns _Chevron_ then IJ might have an easier time arguing this case.
Thank God for IJ who will fight for our rights and freedoms. We all must take a stand for our rights and freedoms if we are to keep them.
Andy Jackson warned us a long time ago. Only gotten worse.
How can they call it a confined feeding operation when the cows can go outside whenever theyblike.
"Rules for the not for me".
The enviromental problems are not necessarily about the number of cows but the ratio of cows to acres of land. Three cows on a quarter acre lot non stop would cause all the same environmental problems as a ten thousand head on a commercial dairy. On the other hand if you where grazing ten thousand cows on thirty thousand acres of farm land with proper rotation and management there would be no negative impact, it would actually be beneficial for the environment. You could grow crops in rotation with no chemical fertilizer. Its all about working with nature.
This is a great example of administrative law. The legislature makes laws, not bureaucracies.
How in the world can this be called a "confined" feeding operation? This is ludicrous.
Such sweet people, I wish them all the luck in the world ☘️ The USDA needs a wake up call, been a long time coming...
Thank you IJ ❤
Everyone knows 3 cows can overwhelm a 10000 cow CAFO Save the giants from small businesses OhNo, it is a 3 cow farm, whatever will we do
Won't someone think about the trees 😱🤡
Oregon government is so f’d up. This is crazy. So are so many other intrusions on small business here
These small farms treat their animals well. The large dairies do not. What a step backwards.
Have you seen those cows? I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to see the ribs and hip bones protruding through the skin on a cow. 😡 2:12
@dailyshenanigans4883 tell me that you're not a farmer without telling me you're not a farmer, lol. Milking cows are skinny like that, they are producing Milk, those breeds aren't like beef cows as they put on tons of wait on. Either their energy goes to Milk production or to size for meat.
A sounds like the cows are closer to free roaming then confined.
One of my uncles told me if the government isn't making sense, follow the money. Big companies have lots of it and freely use it influence government decision makers.
This is for sure. Big government and big corporate farms are taking over all farms. Ranches the same.
You do wonderful things and this is another example! Maybe you should change your name to The Institute Against Injustice.
An unfair competitive advantage with 3 cows?
Corporate greed 🤔. Thank you for caring and sharing ❤.
Our indigenous people in the US are trying to reintroduce native methods of agriculture. Will they be suppressed?
Dropping like flies in winter in Wisconsin 😢
Every small dairy farm needs to join in that suit
People can't eat in peace or defend themself. What a lousy state of affairs.
It's the same way with big oil. Big oil suggests expensive onerous regulations to government who make them law . These new rules are so expensive that independents can't afford them and are forced to sell or go out of business . These bedroom antics of governments and large corporations is disgusting!
Thanks again IJ, doing great things!
The CAFO dairy next to me dumped its holding pond contents into our creek turning it black. That part wasn't legal and eventually I got them to stop. Then I found out that they could dump as much sand from their filtration into the creek turning my rocky creek into a sandy bottomed beach. The smells of the manure and ponds was horrible. He recently went out of business and I pray someone brings a real dairy there instead of starting it up again.
Yes, Amos Millers' farm in Lancaster, PA was raided this month.
PA Dept. of ag w/ PA state police executing a search warrant.
The IJ rocks! Stop the plutocracy!
Big business and big government have always teamed up to defeat small business. It’s been this way since 1789.
IJ might like to reach out to Robert Barnes on the Amos Miller case. Pennsylvania is getting up to similar no-good.
Have her look-up Joel Salatin of Polyface Farm in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. Years ago had to go through something similar with the Virginia officials, so some of what he learned might be of help here.
Joel has written several books & his book "Everything I Want to do is Illegal" speaks about some of his challenges with Virginia.
His farm HAS expanded since that time & he is now known as an international speaker about his methods of farming & taking in interns from a few weeks to a few years...
may the gods go with these ladies❤
It's not big corporations that are the problem, it's those profit hungry shareholders, demanding dividends. Oh, and the corporation office holders that get stock options.
It is the politicians that big companies buy with campaign donations.
Dividends are so passe. Capital gains taxes are so low that stock price is what they care about most.
End government overreach.
Live as our forefathers, live as a (wo)man, don't be a corporation. Exercise your rights as a private Man and not a voluntary slave. whatever you do, don't be licensed ! !!!
That is insane. I could see even applying the regs for a couple dozen cows but less than a handful is ridiculous
I want to support this one. I live in Utah and buy whole milk from a local farm.
I wonder if the DMI is involved in this, or what they would have to say. Of course, corporate agriculture sees this tiny business as a competitor. The 50 customers are buying their milk from this family operation instead of forking their money over to a massive conglomerate. If more family dairy farms pop up, that more people not paying for corporate milk.
It goes much, much deeper than just this. If you haven't seen it, The Fat Electrician did a video about America's Cheese Bunkers. It sounds like an insane conspiracy theory, but it's really just a massive, federal government-backed conspiracy, and it is absolutely wild, and is still 100% impacting where Americans can and can't get their milk from, today.
There can & should be regulations but not ones that harm small dairy farmers (or any small farms) or put a big financial burden on them. Will this lawsuit actually change anything - if not then the laws need to change. Would the loss of this lawsuit be enough to phase 'Big Dairy' ?
If I ever have enough money I will donate to this organization. These people are doing God's work. This case like many others really enrages me, I hope they sue the pants off of everyone involved.
Big everything, it doesn't matter the industry, use their lobbyists to sic the government on small business. This is the real reason why capitalism gets a bad reputation. But really if the government didn't play along it wouldn't be possible. These companies are paying bribes to the people in the government to go after small business, they don't call it bribes but that's exactly what it is.
When they said this was a small farm I thought that meant 50 or 80 head of cattle. 3 cows is even more outrageous.
I love how a small farm selling milk to a tiny fraction of the market constitutes "unfair competition" but a group of conglomerates pooling resources to smash small farms doesn't.
In the end, it has nothing to do with the tiny profits small farms make, it's about the corporations consolidating power by making sure they're the only people you can buy from.
Yup! It's the tragedy of the commons
I have a answer for you small dairy people. Well really the people of that state. Do not buy big Grocery stores milk, yogurts, cheeses, any of it. That is who supports big Dairy.
Oregon. That's all I needed to hear.
Idaho inspectors hectored a local family run dairy near the Canadian border out of business a few years ago, same way. Everytime they complied and got newly required equipment or modified their operation, the state came up with a new requirement...The government ultimately imposed a regimen that only could be met or afforded by a large scale operation. The family gave up.
Big business isn't satisfied until a very few people are making a very large amount of money and as many workers have been let go as possible. And, oh yes, when they can calculate how to pay no taxes.
This government agencies doing the bidding of Big AG. They are doing this to the Amish as well.
Oh they are competition. Those 50 customers are taking dollars away from the big dairy companies and they just can't have that! They need all the dollars! It's the same with any big industry. They are just greedy and it ruins their whole day if they don't have all the customers. 🙄 Heidi