The 4.6 Genshin META (Usage Rates Full Analysis)

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  • @JelloImpact
    @JelloImpact  Місяць тому +69

    btw we will be doing a giveaway at 50k subscribers so make sure to sub :) and thank you so much to those who have~~~

    • @Shane_A_M
      @Shane_A_M Місяць тому +1

      Already am Mr. Jello

    • @icekyuu
      @icekyuu Місяць тому

      Two quick data points:
      140,000 players participate in yshelper's abyss data, so it's a huge sample size.
      The majority of players do not get constellations. 63% of Raiden owners in this sample are at C0 for example.

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  Місяць тому +1

      @@icekyuuthanks for the tip about the c0. How do I see that info btw?

    • @amvtunes4500
      @amvtunes4500 Місяць тому +1

      Are gaming mains unicorn ??
      Because I have never seen gaming on these lists

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  Місяць тому +1

      @@amvtunes4500gaming sheet is much better than practice

  • @SelikBzdy
    @SelikBzdy Місяць тому +417

    Coppelia really ruined cryo and anemo in fontaine patches

    • @andersongomes3211
      @andersongomes3211 Місяць тому +53

      They were losing since dendron.

    • @SelikBzdy
      @SelikBzdy Місяць тому +35

      @@andersongomes3211 They were still getting by at least

    • @RafidW9
      @RafidW9 Місяць тому +16

      FFXX don't give a shit about anemo res lmao. Even wenut can be cleared.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 Місяць тому

      Weak. I cleared last Abyss first half with Xianyun carry team with Xianyun/Furina/Kazuha/Faruzan. It is just so strong a team, Coppelia was a problem? Yes. I had a fully leveled team? No, not at all. I still cleared around 1 miniute 20 second and 1 minute 40 second? Yes.
      Lesson: Where is a will it is a way.

    • @SelikBzdy
      @SelikBzdy Місяць тому +92

      @@reactiondavant-garde3391 I was talking about statistics, why you two decided to turn this into a bragging contest all of sudden?

  • @nailahsaquee6719
    @nailahsaquee6719 Місяць тому +306

    15:05 "Raiden is the least owned archon"
    Venti: "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @ninjacat4401
      @ninjacat4401 Місяць тому +21

      I was just about to say that 😂

    • @jthompson7024
      @jthompson7024 Місяць тому +52

      Everyone knows Kazuha is basically the real Anemo archon haha

    • @Enric.
      @Enric. Місяць тому +6

      Venti is a joke to everyone. And I have him lvl 90 and crowned, but Mihoyo killed him.

    • @Aurora_veil1580
      @Aurora_veil1580 Місяць тому +8

      will always be a proud still 9 starring floor twelve with my (over invested) real anemo archon main dps, Venti Barsibatos

    • @Silvannax11
      @Silvannax11 Місяць тому +9

      Venti still has a place in my heart, he’s the reason i was able to get my first 36* abyss back in 1.4 lol

  • @devam8192
    @devam8192 Місяць тому +293

    I swear, we will still be Childe Internationaling even after khaenri'ah drops.

    • @Harsh-lf4bw
      @Harsh-lf4bw Місяць тому +42

      Old but gold

    • @avej99
      @avej99 Місяць тому +15

      I tried it for the first time the other day and wow I see people use it so much

    • @geogodzhongli
      @geogodzhongli Місяць тому +13

      before I got neuvillette childe international was my favourite team, in fact I still use it every now and then when I want to have some fun

    • @wall6587
      @wall6587 Місяць тому +29

      Bro is unpowercreepable, international all the way!

    • @Oneofakind91
      @Oneofakind91 Місяць тому +13

      Team is so good, I've been running it forever and it feels like it's always good

  • @maevethefox5912
    @maevethefox5912 Місяць тому +209

    The ownership rates here are super interesting because it kind of highlights the population whose data is actually getting into this list. I highly doubt that 94% of the actual Genshin playerbase own Kazuha and Nahida, but folks who would frequent posting their clears to a meta tracker absolutely would.
    Not knocking it or anything, I think there are still things to take from these lists, but it's important to view it as a snapshot of a snapshot.

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  Місяць тому +66

      true- in addition to CN players getting more cons and weapons they're also likely to get most characters espeically the meta ones.

    • @pops1cle187
      @pops1cle187 Місяць тому +35

      Remember this is only for people who are able to 36 star. I'm sure 94% of people who does 36 star also do have kazuha & nahida

    • @Izanatte
      @Izanatte Місяць тому +13

      but it's also more accurate since it only tracks those who can actually 36 star it

    • @yiran_
      @yiran_ Місяць тому +1

      ​@@JelloImpact I think I remember there was data in what characters with constellations players have which is also cn data

    • @salvor1990
      @salvor1990 Місяць тому +4

      In this sample the average amount of different limited 5 stars on an account is 14. Note, this is the average amount (so plenty of accounts have more). This doesn't even include constellations (in this sample more people have c1+ hutao than c0, same with neuvillette, less than half people had c0 neuvillette) or weapons.
      So yeah, it's mostly sampled among long time players and/or whales.

  • @aninterestinusername
    @aninterestinusername Місяць тому +100

    15:05 “Raiden is the least owned archon” oof, venti was so low he didn’t even register

    • @ChainsSSB
      @ChainsSSB Місяць тому +6

      A lot of people forget he's even in the game 😂

    • @joranvanolphen9892
      @joranvanolphen9892 Місяць тому

      He did my boyo dirty. Me very sad 😂

    • @kittreid704
      @kittreid704 Місяць тому +9

      People always seem to forget he's an archon... Jello isn't even the only CC I've seen do it this month. 😅

    • @wall6587
      @wall6587 Місяць тому +3

      Hoyo did our boy venti dirty, they never did another abyss where there isnt at least 1 boss in either half, and venti against bosses is as useful as freeze against bosses: unplayable

    • @youjustgotmogged
      @youjustgotmogged Місяць тому

      Raiden had the most sales if he said that he is absolutely wrong

  • @4_rol4
    @4_rol4 Місяць тому +65

    16:45 the trick to get through the cryo shield is to let Kazuha get it with a pyro attack, then use his burst and E -> Plunges

    • @ghosted404
      @ghosted404 Місяць тому +1

      Narzissenkreuz sword on kazuha works too

    • @Some1The4Got10
      @Some1The4Got10 27 днів тому

      Or just attack once with Furina.

  • @gabriellamacchia9086
    @gabriellamacchia9086 Місяць тому +31

    i know everyone of your vids has at least one of these comments but dude your content is the perfect mix of vids where some i can totally zone in on and learn xyz about abc, whilst some other ones are just satisfying background noise, truly truly truly love your content and the 48+ hours ive spent watching it has most definitely NOT been a waste

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  Місяць тому +5

      🥹

    • @LiterallyJustAnActualPotato
      @LiterallyJustAnActualPotato 6 днів тому

      @@JelloImpactsame! I play your videos while I’m cleaning the house, and I save the ones I need to come back to and make some notes on in my “gaming” playlist. Perfect mix of easy listening while I’m going about my day, and super valuable information!

  • @damienfritz5626
    @damienfritz5626 Місяць тому +5

    Gotta love the fact that Childe National is still wrecking shit.
    My man went through the Ayato slander, the Dendro meta and the Fontaine powercreep and outlived everything.

  • @handsomejack2201
    @handsomejack2201 Місяць тому +30

    On reddit someone said that Cryo bois use swirling Baptists Pyro shield tech using Kazuha and his ult and plunge clears next Cryo shield instantly.

  • @logic5360
    @logic5360 Місяць тому +13

    a team i accidently made that actually surprised me with its damage (not 36 stars but pretty good for me) i used yaoyao collei furina venti and it did so well for me i was shocked, im not even sure how, c0 furina c0 venti c6 collei c1 yaoyao

  • @nyeonii
    @nyeonii Місяць тому +6

    I agree with your Chiori take. She is super slept on, her dolls do so much damage with the right setup and just constantly drop you shields. She is also useful for characters with good plunge attacks since you can teleport up and swap midair

  • @loueyjaballah665
    @loueyjaballah665 Місяць тому +68

    15:05 bro is forgetting that venti is an archon lmao

  • @Ottobon
    @Ottobon Місяць тому

    Love that you included the pinch of salt warning and still made it engaging! get them views. With this abyss what i find is how under-rated electro dendro is, even without the floor buff it still doing really well be it aggravate, spread, or quickbloom, i found this abyss easier just going into it with hope and prayer with such teams, but no one is talking about it because the obvious choice of pyro is presumed to be the only good one.

  • @VetoShizu
    @VetoShizu Місяць тому +2

    I've been using Beidou alongside Arlecchino for overload and she's doing fine there. The downside is I don't have Chevreuse but I'm still able to clear Abyss with Arle/Beidou regardless. It just feels good to pull off the parry since the enemies attack patterns are easy to anticipate, and I don't think you necessarily have to focus your team around Beidou either. I guess I'm adding to that Dehya percentage since I'm been using her in Abyss since last year :O

  • @xdragon2k
    @xdragon2k Місяць тому +2

    Yeah, I saw someone using Nilou Bloom on the Baptist. They just wait out the Cryo shield until it disappears before start attacking again. Which mean you need a lot of time from the first half.

  • @andrinaleong4079
    @andrinaleong4079 Місяць тому +2

    I didn’t realize Coppelia/Coppelius has a shield. I used Nahida hyperbloom on the Anemo and Raiden National on the Cryo. Each took only a minute to clear.
    For this abyss, Raiden National and Nahida hyperbloom would do the job to 36-star. Does not even need Arlecchino.

  • @manday2267
    @manday2267 Місяць тому +6

    16:50 probably using Kazuha's burst to infuse it with Pyro as a breaker for the Cryo Shield. Idk about those Ayaka mains, lol.

  • @TonyWickham
    @TonyWickham Місяць тому +3

    Where do you find these rates? I couldn't find it anywhere online. I'm really curious about usage rates without taking ownership into account because I think that would be more representative.

  • @patrickchimento643
    @patrickchimento643 Місяць тому +1

    Love your vids you’re my favorite genshin cc

  • @Shreyash112
    @Shreyash112 Місяць тому +12

    Im surprised to see navia this down,she does fabulous damage on first side with benny xiangling and either geo mc(for 10 crit rate) or zhongli (shield and crystallize)

    • @cereng.4950
      @cereng.4950 Місяць тому +4

      I was also surprised because navia has been and is my go-to dps ever since 4.3 Never thought i'd see her that low on the list when she easily does 200k+ per elemental skill

    • @Shreyash112
      @Shreyash112 Місяць тому +1

      @@cereng.4950 same, my navia does around 225k with benny+Xiangling+ other geo(Noelle, zhongli, mc, ning) and does 300k+ with furina(no max fanfare tho as benny dont heal above 70%)

    • @TurdBoi-tf5lf
      @TurdBoi-tf5lf Місяць тому +3

      I love Navia. Her play style is really fun to me and she does great damage too.

    • @AbhishekSingh-nq4rh
      @AbhishekSingh-nq4rh 21 день тому +1

      Mainly because arlechhino wants Bennett, so if you don't have furina and xianyun for plunge Navia, you'll end up not using her. Also xiangling and Bennett are more popular on second side than first, because how irritating those baptist shields are. ​@@Shreyash112

    • @Shreyash112
      @Shreyash112 21 день тому

      @@AbhishekSingh-nq4rh that's true lol, tried them on 2nd side after new reset and it worked fine than on first side

  • @thegamingjelly1719
    @thegamingjelly1719 Місяць тому +28

    I am PROUDLY repping my Dehya in every single Abyss clear. C0 and she does her job spectacularly with Neuvillette. Haven't failed a 36-star clear yet

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch Місяць тому

      He’ll yeah!!! I just got her recently and am excited to build her!! Especially to also pair with Lyney~

    • @ShadoW-qk8xo
      @ShadoW-qk8xo Місяць тому +1

      How you use her she have a down time to interruption teach me broooo

    • @thegamingjelly1719
      @thegamingjelly1719 Місяць тому

      @@ShadoW-qk8xo Typically the downtime is made up for by the i-frames given by Bursts! Other than that, her rotation on Neuvi Hyperbloom isn't super tight, so you can weave in some dodges until you have a moment of safety to deploy your Skills

    • @xdragon2k
      @xdragon2k Місяць тому

      @@MugWitch Now if only HoYo will stop giving me Jean constellations and give me Dehya instead.

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch Місяць тому +1

      @@xdragon2k RIGHT?? Ughhhh I have the unfortunate pleasure of C6 Mona and C5 Diluc over the course of 2-3years…

  • @jinosgameing7657
    @jinosgameing7657 Місяць тому +11

    Bit tip for my nuivlet brothers out there if u using him n in the second half try to do a hyber bloom with nahida and koki u can clear the second half really fast and on the last boss u can brake ther fire shild with nuivlet the cryo shild with koki and the electro shild with nahida /dendro chr

    • @MuhaamadAreeb
      @MuhaamadAreeb Місяць тому +1

      I personally used burn melt with xiangling nahida but this works aswell

    • @brrrkic
      @brrrkic Місяць тому +21

      ah yes. nuivlet and koki

    • @sweatygoblin2335
      @sweatygoblin2335 Місяць тому +5

      i think op had a stroke while writing this

    • @gluesniffingdude
      @gluesniffingdude Місяць тому +2

      I definitely had a stroke reading it

    • @TheGwilwileth
      @TheGwilwileth Місяць тому

      Thank you…

  • @sesomamoses
    @sesomamoses Місяць тому

    You can click on the character in the app, choose “teams” and see the rating of all his or her teams

  • @unknownkw
    @unknownkw Місяць тому +2

    I've seen 2 videos doing the same trick: let Kazuha be hit by a pyro attack before breaking the pyro shield, then when cryo shield comes up, switch to Kazuha and Q to infuse pyro. This borrowing fire technique is relatively old (it works because pyro always had the highest infusion priority).

    • @doug3454
      @doug3454 Місяць тому

      Yep. Though if you also bring Bennett there (which I did for most of my runs), you can just get the Pyro from his burst's self-application.

  • @NoctLC7
    @NoctLC7 Місяць тому

    You are genuinely my favorite Genshin Creator and I love all the vids. Just lost my 50/50 so Arelchino or Clroinde is next!

  • @SantiagoChavez
    @SantiagoChavez Місяць тому

    right now i just tried Raiden c0 homa+chevrouse+xiangling the catc+bennett on the first half and neuvi c1 thome + kazuha em+ fishcl + furina on the second and it felt AMAZING. it shreds every single thing and felt so powerful. people are truly sleeping on overload raiden, it just shreds everything you put in front of it.
    Neuvi felt amazing as always and it was successful at tackling the bautist, and the bautist didn't put a pyro shield but only cryo and electro but kazuha and fischl just brute force it successfully. im excited for my raiden on overload feels like a whole new character almost like c2 feels since overload ignores defens and chevi lowers res it truly feels great

  • @John_II
    @John_II Місяць тому

    Regarding your question at like 16:45 regarding the cryo shield on the Abyss Lector... I've seen Nilou Bloom teams just WAIT. The shield goes down eventually - either that or I'm missing something else they do. So maybe that's what a freeze team does. You either burst it down before the cryo shield goes up, or you just wait it out.

  • @themasterdou
    @themasterdou Місяць тому +9

    I'm surprised to see Chevreuse so low, I had more success using Arle overload in the first half than vaporize, the AoE was good enough and the stager guaranteed that Arle would take less damage overall. On the second side, It took some time, but I was able to 36* with an Ayaka+Furina+Charllote+Kazuha team. Also, you can break the cryo shield swirling hydro with Kazuha, it's not as efficient as pyro or electro, but it works.

    • @HenryDelRosario
      @HenryDelRosario Місяць тому

      I used arle too First half with chev yae and fischl. Overload just produced so much more dps for me compared to vape.

    • @AdrasAdraki
      @AdrasAdraki Місяць тому +1

      Youd need c6 no? Had she rerun this patch I think the stats would be different.

    • @saimfaisal6795
      @saimfaisal6795 Місяць тому

      She works fine at c0. C6 is just actually good​@@AdrasAdraki

    • @themasterdou
      @themasterdou Місяць тому +1

      @@AdrasAdraki She is solid even in lower constellations since her C0 gives the 40% ATK buff and 40% DEF shred. Her C6 is a very nice bonus, but not mandatory.

    • @r.d.6290
      @r.d.6290 Місяць тому

      I like Arle Chevreuse Fischl overload teams, they just didn't work for me in floor 12. Main issue is survivability because of either Beidou or Thoma not giving enough protection and their occasional energy problems.

  • @kanoaika
    @kanoaika Місяць тому +1

    The safest way to interpret this data is what we can actually know from it: that *popular characters can clear the abyss* at the investment levels and skill levels that many players in this data set are at. On the other hand *being unpopular doesn't prove that a character is bad in any objective way* (poor damage, not versatile, no good teams, hard to use, requires high investment etc--although those things can play into it). It can only show that people didn't submit many clears using them relative to the number that own them (and that could be for any number of reasons).
    The best and only objective way to know if a character is good (particularly for you and your account) is analysis, testing, and actual knowledge about how the game and characters work: with those things you can find the answers yourself, know why and when they are applicable, and take your account and skill into consideration. Knowledge is power.

  • @hazeysgarden
    @hazeysgarden Місяць тому +3

    The last abyss was my first 36 star with Neuvi / Arle, and I do NOT see how I’m going to be able to full star this one. It’s so much harder than the last abyss. It’s shocking how much more difficult it is lol

    • @joeyisabsb1
      @joeyisabsb1 Місяць тому

      Those two are great for this abyss! I usually see Arle side one and Neuvi side 2. Just watch some guides on how to beat the abyss this rotation and you'll get it.

  • @Manic44
    @Manic44 Місяць тому +3

    I keep trying different teams throughout multiple patches, but still nothing feels as effective as Xiangling.
    She the goat.

  • @calistolynn
    @calistolynn Місяць тому

    personally I just feel incredibly confortable using baizhu with furina in any possible situation i can because he just heals everyone to the top so I don't need to worry whether or not her buff activated or not. I think a lot of people use him with her too for that same reason. gaining an additional bloom here and there for some extra damage is cool too. it's just comfortable.
    another comfortable team where I like him is with tighnari where I can put the dendro set on baizhu and a wanderer on tighnari and then pair them up with either 2 electro either kuki/fishl/yae or fishl+ zhongli for max comfort.

  • @animesenpai1163
    @animesenpai1163 Місяць тому +5

    Diluc Plunge with Xianyun is really good for the 1st side.
    I have diluc lvl 80 and it's giving 100k - 130k per plunge and it clears the 1st side within 30 sec.

    • @alanabraham9404
      @alanabraham9404 Місяць тому

      What con? Weapon? plz

    • @animesenpai1163
      @animesenpai1163 Місяць тому

      @@alanabraham9404 weapon is the 4 star Melusine Sword and my Diluc is C2.

  • @marcosgalindez58
    @marcosgalindez58 Місяць тому +6

    Kazuha is so good I know there isn’t a must pull character. But he was my first 5 star and also my favorite character never benched him use him everyday. The fact that you can use him for exploration and combat makes him one of the most versatile in the game. Yelan is also like that which is why they’re my two favs right now but his cc is broken probably best in the game 💯 I haven’t used furina yet still building her right now so I’m excited to test her out 💪🏻 the problem with her is that you need a team wide healer like Jean or xianyun so I didn’t start building her till I got my Jean she’s probably the best character when you have a proper team but kazuha and yelan don’t need as much work. Nahida is also very strong hyperbloom still does the most damage when it comes to reactions I agree with you that this abyss isn’t the best for her.

    • @djampoucheukap1742
      @djampoucheukap1742 Місяць тому +5

      Yep, there was some theorycrafters who said he kinda fell off, but the truth is, he is unpowercreepable, furina tried with jean, but let's face it, kazuha grouping and swirl is just irreplaceable no matter the abyss

    • @sausagewagoninmyass
      @sausagewagoninmyass Місяць тому

      I've never not using Kazuha, Yelan, Furina in abyss. Those 3 is just irreplaceable supports. So goddamn powerful even with shit DPS-es. Pretty much a prime example on why you should pull supports first before DPS-es.

    • @marcosgalindez58
      @marcosgalindez58 Місяць тому

      @@djampoucheukap1742 I agree with you 💯 percent kazuha is the best anemo character nd its not even close 🥳 furina has comp yelan, nd xingque are so good u dnt need her on the account if you have them tbh. Kazuha easy build doesn’t need anything at all he needs is a lot of em and some energy recharge so you can double swirl and your good 😌

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 10 днів тому

      ​@@djampoucheukap1742 i remember someone saying he's worthless because of other anemos, Jean/Xianyun in mono hydro and National with Sucrose, while even though sucrose is a very good 4 star her set ups can feel clunky, She kinda feels tricky to play as Kazuha subsitute and tbh she's more of a support driver than a pure support, as for the Xianyun and Jean for mono hydro, Isn't this mostly on mono hydro Ayato? which isn't as big as Neuvillette and Kokomi and those two would definitely prefer to use kazuha?

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 10 днів тому

      ​@@djampoucheukap1742 i heard in some teams you can use Kazu and Furina but the healer options are rough minus Kokomi who is very synergystic with Yelan and furina as well.

  • @potentiallyRealWarrenGraham
    @potentiallyRealWarrenGraham Місяць тому

    I see my Arle/XQ/Kazu/Diona Team is not on here. Its surprisingly good. A shield for Arle, some freeze, some Melt, some Vape (depending on what you infuse into Kazu), and big EM from Diona C6. I like it quite a lot

  • @pyronado4320
    @pyronado4320 Місяць тому +1

    Navia is actually really good first side. I've been getting 55-60 second clears but you do have to keep positioning in mind. Maybe people don't want to deal with that

  • @Seren89
    @Seren89 Місяць тому +1

    Hello where I can check Genshin impact abyss usage rate character?

  • @ianmeyssen6968
    @ianmeyssen6968 Місяць тому +1

    i really hope to one day see itto finally climb out of C-tier. Bro has been carrying me through abyss ever since i got him

  • @axeltanumihardja9298
    @axeltanumihardja9298 Місяць тому

    With freeze team on second side to deal with the cryo shield, you need your kazuha get hit with boss pyro attack so when you use kazuha burst he can self infuse his burst with pyro, it is very tricky

  • @wansper9297
    @wansper9297 Місяць тому

    After 30 seconds the baptist's shield goes away, so if you have enough dps you can make it work. This is also how I did second half nilou

  • @p_jp4832
    @p_jp4832 Місяць тому +66

    Just another playground for Neuvillette

    • @Shreyash112
      @Shreyash112 Місяць тому +11

      They try their best to nerf neuvi,but we aint gonna stop disrupting that shi with our NeuviOtter 😎

    • @djampoucheukap1742
      @djampoucheukap1742 Місяць тому +23

      And the fact that next abyss bring consecrated beast, and once again pyro shields (lmaoo) means that next abyss will be arlechinno nerfs, while neuv will still be crushing them solo or not😂😂, too bad the arlechinno era really hasn't really lasted long 😂😂😂.
      Mihoyo created an absolute game mistake by releasing the monster that is the hydro dragon😂.

    • @LivingChad
      @LivingChad Місяць тому +6

      He still crush everything even with a hydro resistance enemies in both sides😂

    • @ashenzenden
      @ashenzenden Місяць тому +34

      ​​@@djampoucheukap1742neuvi mains try not to meat ride him for 2 mins challenge (impossible). Just say ur gay bro 💀

    • @LivingChad
      @LivingChad Місяць тому +2

      He still crush everything even with a hydro resistance enemies in both sides😂

  • @blaze_burn
    @blaze_burn Місяць тому

    Teams I used:
    First Half:
    Neuvi
    Kazu
    Furina
    Charlotte
    Second Half:
    Arlecchino (EM build/Hybrid)
    Nahida
    Xingqiu
    Zhongli
    Still almost a minute left on each chamber, Neuvillette is so good on first half for the continuous waves. Ask me if you have any questions for my builds!

  • @jajathenewking6131
    @jajathenewking6131 Місяць тому +2

    I actually used 3 teams to clear floor 12 with 9 stars.
    Double Geo Hu Tao with Chiori, Yelan, and Zhongli on 1st side.
    Melt Wriothesley with Bennett, Xiangling, Kazuha. Also Gaming hypercarry with Bennett, Furina, Xianyun in 2nd half.

  • @DiogoVKersting
    @DiogoVKersting Місяць тому +1

    I haven't seen anyone running my team on the second side: Neuville(Prototype Amber), Yae Miko, Nahida, Fischl.
    First side, I use HuTao plunge. Really fun to play.

  • @xiholliday
    @xiholliday Місяць тому +1

    The strongest hyperbloom team will include
    Some offield hydro applicator,
    Nahida
    Baizhu
    Some on field electro dps.
    With that said, if you use Furina/Yelan with EM raiden, this team does insane damage!

  • @lyricjam39
    @lyricjam39 Місяць тому

    I got 36 the stars. My pick for abys 2nd half was "Thoma Burgeon team", with Baizhu, Furina and Yelan. It requires about 900 or more of EM on Thoma (plus all the ER you can get, if possible use the "Flower of Paradise Lost set" instead of "Gilded Dreams"), and Baizhu using a favounius to keep the rotations going. Tho I think I had a lot of flexibility for mistakes since I got C6 Thoma Furina C3, and Yelan C1 + SW (yet I had about 20 seconds left on each floor, enough for an aditional rotation even tho I still don't master the team).

  • @blazikenfury8852
    @blazikenfury8852 Місяць тому

    I cleared second half using Ganyu freeze. You need to get hit on Kazuha when the baptist is in the pyro mode, and shield has 10% HP, then infuse Kazuha burst with Pyro and hopefully two of his plunges with Pyro as well, to get through the Cryo shield.

  • @Dani_RdM
    @Dani_RdM Місяць тому

    This Abyss was easier than I expected, or it's just that I have built the characters to make good rosters. Teams I used:
    Diona, Xiangling, Yelan, Raiden.
    Bennet, Kazuha, Xinqgiu, Arlecchino.
    All 4-star characters with c6. Raiden with Engulfing Lightning.

  • @MuhaamadAreeb
    @MuhaamadAreeb Місяць тому +20

    Btw you said cyno was very meh this abyss. I used him on an ok artifact build with white tassel ( baizhu furina nahida though) and he felt pretty good to me, got all the elemental coverage and all the waves had just enough hp to make doing a full rotation worth it
    It is to be noted that nahida xingqiu fishl often times feels just as good a team to me especially in single target

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  Місяць тому +3

      Yeah you’re right Cyno should be good first half with furina

    • @manday2267
      @manday2267 Місяць тому

      Me also. I was able to kill the Dendro Chicken in the previous Abyss with one rotation, and with White tassel with Furina, Baizuh, Nahida. He’s super extremely underrated DPS.

    • @MuhaamadAreeb
      @MuhaamadAreeb Місяць тому +2

      @@manday2267 well, I understand his problems which is why not many people play him. But I think for the kind of person that will like him, they will Really like him cuz just spends so much time on field and you get to master his kit

    • @MuhaamadAreeb
      @MuhaamadAreeb Місяць тому +1

      @@JelloImpact which is funny cuz I cleared second side with him

    • @uhm211
      @uhm211 Місяць тому +1

      One cycled also the chicken without cyno. I used nahida kuki xq and zl . Very strong dps indeed even if he's not in the team it still clears very fast.

  • @UryuCifer
    @UryuCifer Місяць тому

    For the freeze team against the Baptist i would assume that what they do is leave the pyro shield almost broken and then kazuha burst which will infuse it with pyro and will apply pyro to the boss and then before he puts the cryo shield you kazuha E so you will have both the burst and E infused with pyro to destroy the cryo shield.
    Just my assumption, no idea if it would actually work since i dont watch abyss runs nor do i have ayaka.

  • @CL-mw1fp
    @CL-mw1fp Місяць тому +1

    I went very boring and safe with Arle (C0R1 at the time), Yelan (C1), Benny & Zhongli, and Neuvi (C0R1), Furina, Kazuha & Baizhu. The Lectors and the Baptist did not feel great for Neuvi, but I still somehow managed to 36 stars without restarting a chamber.
    I'm not surprised to see all of these characters at the top of the tier list

  • @skall95
    @skall95 Місяць тому

    How do I look for the spiral abyss usage data myself? I saw people can filter most popular teams by character. Would really like to see them to help me team building

  • @Drxcture
    @Drxcture Місяць тому

    My teams were: Hu Tao, Kazuha, Bennett C6, Yelan for 1st side and Neuvi, Raiden, Nahida, Tankfei for 2nd side. I know Neuvi team is a complete mess but it somehow works, you just gotta give Yanfei some good hp and recharge, also you might be afraid of burning and burgeon, but if you're careful you can avoid getting burgeons and also Neuvi helps get rid of the burning reaction in case you happen to trigger it.

  • @crocworks
    @crocworks Місяць тому +22

    Usage rates are mostly fine, but vastly undervalues Sucrose every time.

    • @serulu3490
      @serulu3490 Місяць тому +24

      It's because of kazuha's 94% ownership rate. if you got kazuha, there is no purpose to sucrose

    • @Konomidebanshouwashikisesur
      @Konomidebanshouwashikisesur Місяць тому +13

      Honestly Sucrose is just not as comfy as Kazuha. I literally never once used her once I got Kazuha cause he just feels so much better and he's just a better buffer in general supporting the strongest teams in the game.

    • @crocworks
      @crocworks Місяць тому +1

      I have Kazuha and use Sucrose without using Kazuha often, mainly whenever I need Guoba Swirl or if I want Sucrose driving on field for Salad Hyperbloom or Taser. Sucrose is 100% better in those situations.
      Kazuha is clearly better if it's a freeze or mono-element team or if really strong grouping is required. (But not to the point that Venti becomes the best option)
      And to be fair, you can have 2 teams in Spiral, and if each side needs an anemo, then give one side to Kazuha and the other to Sucrose. They're still mostly interchangeable outside of the situations listed above.

    • @Otherface
      @Otherface Місяць тому +1

      My only theory behind this is that not many people, for some people, have C6 Sucrose. That way, you'll pretty much have 2 Kazuhas. One per team. If that's not the case... then I wonder what happens

    • @h.h1623
      @h.h1623 Місяць тому

      ​@@Otherfacei think not everyone have their characters very well built, maybe many just have their sucrose not built/not well built so they can't use her🤔

  • @gurupatikus
    @gurupatikus Місяць тому

    For Ayaka freeze there is an option to use Amber for cryo shields. She doesn't bother Ayaka like Bennet c6 and her ult easily remove shields

  • @AzureDrag0n1
    @AzureDrag0n1 Місяць тому +2

    You can get past Coppelius shield by having a Sword of Narzissenkreuz user on the team.

  • @clementlassalle4317
    @clementlassalle4317 Місяць тому +1

    Pro tip for Nilou players : to break Coppelius' shield in the first half, in case you don't have Furina, or don't wanna play her in that team, or are using her on the other side, you can instantly break the shield with... the Narzissenkreuz sword in Ousia mode, you can give it to either Nilou herself (since most of her weapon options are meh anyways), or if she's holding the Key, you can give it to the dendro traveler instead who also doesn't have great sword options to begin with. Then, you just need to perform a normal attack whenever the shield is up, and you disable it just like that :)

  • @cerealdreamer7577
    @cerealdreamer7577 Місяць тому

    This is one of the few abysses that overburgeon razor can be used, as long you have enough dendro/pyro for the other side

  • @TheGwilwileth
    @TheGwilwileth Місяць тому

    Baizhu is a team wide healer with a semi shield and dendro so he is very helpful. That top Neuvillette team is the one I use most. In general…. Still p,aging around with Arlecchino teams. Alhaitham usually has Kazuha, Kuki and Nahida.

  • @leandrolima4902
    @leandrolima4902 Місяць тому +30

    Personal opinion:
    Not a power rating, but a confy clear rating, base on the current abyss a.k.a how simpler the characters can deal with these enemies and the blessing.
    That's how people should see this tier list.

    • @John_II
      @John_II Місяць тому +3

      I agree with you. Zhongli and Baizhu are super comfy picks for Abyss runs. I think Furina is easier to use than Yelan or Xingqiu as well - so she's higher. Neuvi is way easier to use than Arle, and so on. Because I'm not going to make it harder for myself to clear, so I usually run my best teams. which usually includes more META characters. I'm assuming most players come to a similar conclusion. There's no prize for clearing with only starters versus clearing with META teams.

  • @Freenos
    @Freenos Місяць тому +3

    The data is heavily skewed against 4* DPS for sure because of high ownership even though a lot of the Pyro 4* characters like Gaming and EM Thoma are fantastic this abyss.

  • @studiesinflux1304
    @studiesinflux1304 Місяць тому

    1:31 talking about weapons, is there a statistic for the weapons or other gear?

  • @alexfromsolitude
    @alexfromsolitude Місяць тому +1

    You just don't deplete the Cryo shield though technically Kazuha could. If the Cryo shield gets cancelled by the Baptist himself he'll spawn a little Cryo thingy after the shield phase which Kazuha when easily destroys. Then he's downed and and ready for the kill.
    Had this in my first attempt (which was very chaotic due to going in blind and forgetting where my characters were in my team).
    Gaming with Xianyun top half is crazy good. Out of curtesy I won't link my videos but I recorded my runs.

  • @mattiasbarkelius5604
    @mattiasbarkelius5604 Місяць тому

    I would guess that the baptist's cryo shield is broken by Kazuha in freeze teams. Swirls from skill and burst, heavy attack from the hold e plunge. Especially if Kazuha is c1 and can skill twice

  • @vanMrMann
    @vanMrMann Місяць тому +1

    I use Baizhou in EM-Raiden/Baizhou/Alhaitham/Furina Hyperbloom.
    It’s an extremely strong team.

  • @TheLastAirbender3468
    @TheLastAirbender3468 Місяць тому +3

    12:05 is your sucrose lvl 60 ? Because anemo characters level affect their grouping capabilities , i used my lvl90 sucrose in the second side with Arlecchino , and she works well , her grouping is decent, not as easy as kazuha, but she gets the job done

  • @h.h1623
    @h.h1623 Місяць тому

    Hey guys, what should i do with my raiden national when i run double hydro on hu tao team, who should i replace xq on national team? My hu tao team is yelan xq hu tao thoma...

  • @neffalex3833
    @neffalex3833 Місяць тому

    Ive been trying to beat floor six for soooo long it's insane .... My strongest character are level 60 should I just grind and build or who should I keep trying

  • @sneezy7272
    @sneezy7272 Місяць тому

    I've been using Navia plunge with Chiori, Furina and Xianyun on the first half. Then Arlecchino vape with Benny, Yelan and Kazuha for the second half. Pretty good teams, but I need more talent lvls for Arle to 3 star chamber 3 😭😭

  • @HenryDelRosario
    @HenryDelRosario Місяць тому

    I used baizhu for thoma burgeon team with Nahida and furina for the second half. Baizhu makes my thoma burgeon team so comfy. (Expensive team!)

  • @joe_simon
    @joe_simon Місяць тому +6

    The 9.8% Klee usage makes me so happy.
    Sucrose suffers a lot from Kazuha. We are at a point in which one Anemo is usually all you need. We have many good none Anemo teams. And Kazuhas ownership being so high, him being easier to use, him having better CC and having overall better synergy with top carries hurts Sucrose a lot. If Kazuha wouldn't exist Sucrose usage would skyrocket I think. Not as high as Kazuha is know but it would be much higher. In the end you only need 2 teams. And if only one of them needs/wants an Anemo Kazuha is usually the go to pick.

    • @Darkmec003
      @Darkmec003 Місяць тому

      Yh true but in arlecchino Teams succrose is higher DMG, dont makes her stronger but she is higher dmg at least

    • @Rpground
      @Rpground Місяць тому

      Me too, Klee made some massive gains this Abyss.

  • @tru9280
    @tru9280 Місяць тому

    What is this website/app where you can see the data? I can't find it anywhere!

  • @maciekgenji88
    @maciekgenji88 Місяць тому

    On first side I used Yae Raiden, Chev and Xiangling (still waiting for off field pyro apllicator who has teamwide buffs. Hopefully one day). And on second I got random: Yoimiya, Baizhu, Furina, Kazu. No idea how it worked lmaooo

  • @Onewolf101
    @Onewolf101 Місяць тому +1

    are the beizou stocks up now? feel like i might get him in the rerun so i can have another shielder besides zhongli since he cant be everywhere

    • @Shiiwata
      @Shiiwata Місяць тому

      baizhu is mostly used in neuvillette and nilou teams. his main appeal is the huge amount of healing on his e skill and not so much his shield because it is meant to break. if you need an actual shielder, i would look at one of the 4-stars.

  • @Absquatulate_Magnate
    @Absquatulate_Magnate Місяць тому

    Like number 1000 wew :D Also keep up the great work.

  • @Himmerseus
    @Himmerseus 27 днів тому

    One thing that keeps bogging me is that we are almost at Natlan and we still don't have our Kuki Shinobu for Burgeon. Thoma can do it halfway through but is still underwhelming.
    We have 1 year and half from Sumeru and burgeon is completely put to the sides. I expect that when someone to do burgeon appears it will be insanely good.

  • @m3hrn_
    @m3hrn_ Місяць тому

    I'm only able to get 7* on floor -11 unlike previous abysses where I scored full stars , but to surprise I got 1 star in chamber 1 for the first time
    *12-1

  • @nafiahmed6186
    @nafiahmed6186 Місяць тому

    What website are you using to view the top teams?

  • @HazZzel-
    @HazZzel- 5 днів тому

    Lyney being in B pains me but ik its unsurprising especially with Arlechino getting added
    Love to see Baizhu getting use- he got slept on a lot when he came out but now with Furina he's super popular

  • @Uryvichk
    @Uryvichk Місяць тому

    There's a lot of random crud flying around in this Abyss, so Baizhu is just useful for the pseudo-shields and healing. Incidental Dendro also helps a bit with things. There's no real mystery to his usage, the people who pull for him know exactly what they're getting him for. If a team he's on doesn't seem to be working out, he's almost never the element that's the problem.
    Also Mono Hydro isn't great this time so I'm not on-fielding Kokomi and I don't feel that Xianyun has enough to really do here. Jean maybe for cleansing all the Cryo, but eh.

  • @fmaaru571
    @fmaaru571 Місяць тому

    I used Raiden burst and E to get through the mages cryo shield on the second side (Nahida Xingqui Raiden Kokomi hyperbloom team)

  • @Cajun_Seasoning
    @Cajun_Seasoning Місяць тому +1

    i wanna know how many of those ayaka users used her as a support

  • @mostcreative3680
    @mostcreative3680 Місяць тому

    My favorite Baizhu team is Yae Miko, Furina, Nahida, and Baizhu. Just cycle thru each character and use skill/burst on cd. Consistent, no nonsense damage with tons of mobility.

  • @siddiqhh
    @siddiqhh Місяць тому

    Since getting Dori C6, Nahida Furina Dori Fischl/Kazuha is always going to be my first choice in one of the sides.

  • @vodaz9109
    @vodaz9109 Місяць тому

    Been doing just Furina + Kazuha + Navia + Noelle & Yae + Chevreuse + Sara + Bennett since 4.2. Easiest 36* then and still since.
    It works, so no reason to change it.
    Oh yeah, Chev & Navia came after 4.2. [Insert subsititute with another Geo + Pyro.]

  • @gizdra1128
    @gizdra1128 Місяць тому

    There was a lot of hype about gammig and xianyun and he's pretty good in part 1 on the 12th floor. I guess a lot of people don't have C6 or don't enjoy the character. Diluc is also very good in part 1. Wriothesley is quite good in part 2 in melt but I guess many are disappointed with him in c0

  • @TheJH1015
    @TheJH1015 Місяць тому

    People underestimate how well Chiori breaks shields with 2 Tamoto dolls + coordinated attacks + her burst. that's a LOT of Geo that just destroys an elemental shield.

  • @sakshyammanandhar8969
    @sakshyammanandhar8969 Місяць тому +1

    Nilou bloom with sword of narzissenkreuz is actually good for second half

  • @alexferrier5732
    @alexferrier5732 Місяць тому

    How can you end up in this statistics? Just by clearing the abyss 36*? Or do you have to submit your runs or sign up your account to a website or some? Live in a specific region? Is it taking only PC users? Or also playstations and mobile?

    • @youngfigaro
      @youngfigaro Місяць тому

      I think you have to submit it

    • @alexferrier5732
      @alexferrier5732 Місяць тому

      @@youngfigaro How? Or in what website or app?

  • @gustykraken
    @gustykraken Місяць тому

    Awake freeze maybe using furina to arche away the shield and diona for heals

  • @mullybaguire1086
    @mullybaguire1086 Місяць тому

    Is 193 er enough for kazuha with freedom sworn in childe international?

  • @lmntsgames3848
    @lmntsgames3848 Місяць тому

    I'm not surprised seeing Xianyun that low.. there's way too many enemies in floor 12 and they're really spread out so plunge is significantly difficult to play in those chambers..

  • @zovawater2865
    @zovawater2865 Місяць тому

    wriothesley is so underrated, it’s ridiculous for him being the first catalyst cryo character, his damage and kit is insane and is so easy to build and insane dps because of the hunter set helping with crit rate. He is just busted that’s a fact. 💯

  • @sivashankar99
    @sivashankar99 Місяць тому

    I mainly used Ayaka freeze for 2nd half 2nd chamber.. used a different team for 3rd chamber

  • @miscellaneous7777
    @miscellaneous7777 Місяць тому

    I used plunge diluc 1st side and Neuvillette vape team with baizhu nahida and xiangling on 2nd side

  • @camap9235
    @camap9235 Місяць тому +9

    it's cryover

    • @thebuddhasmiles
      @thebuddhasmiles Місяць тому

      We'll eventually have a cryo focused Abyss and then cryo will make a comeback. I say that as someone whos only cryo unit is kaeya.

  • @Felipe-wt6jf
    @Felipe-wt6jf Місяць тому

    I cleared with Arle + Kazuha + Yelan + Zhong and Classic Raiden National, and i cleared it twice using each team on both sides. Sucks that eula was a no go this abyss, i usually clear with her every abyss 😢 maybe with c6 bennet...

  • @shivvu4461
    @shivvu4461 Місяць тому

    16:43 When Baptists Pyro shield is about to break, You use kazuha skill/burst to swirl Pyro and break the cryo shield.

  • @_aylin6842
    @_aylin6842 Місяць тому

    Should I pull for arlecchino or wait for Furina? I have a guranteed pity