venti being sloth also makes sense bc he is known for slumbering for hundreds of years at times and leaving the people of mondstadt to fend for themselves which doesnt always end up well, like what happened with signora's lover. also what is that thing about venti being part of istaroth?
this is not true :') venti isnt like that at all. he fell asleep to heal from the battle he fought against durin with dvalin to protect mondstadt.. and when he woke up he was heartbroken with what was done to mondstadt by the lawrence clan so he immediately solved the issue by guiding vannessa and boosting her abilities. as for signora's lover it was his own doing, not venti's. and istaroth and venti both have some sort of connection and apparently used to rule together (seen in the time island quest + the saying of the wind being a seed of time) venti wants mondstadt to be free because he doesnt want to be like the previous tyrannic ruler decarabian, and in the archon quest venti was the one to help and save dvalin (with traveler's assistance), and he couldve done it from the very beginning if the traveler hadnt interrupted him with paimon.
Venti being part of Istaroth could also be from the fact that Istaroth is called "The Thousand Winds [of Time]" (Source : Byakuyakoku book 3) and Venti was "single thread of the thousand winds" (Source : Venti's character story 3)
Thats his definition of true freedom. He doesnt want to guide people and tell them how to live. He shows up when people of Mondstadt need his help to be free from the tyranny again. Its somewhat known in the game lore that Venti is somehow associated or related to god of time. Mondstadt used to worship two gods at some point. One was Venti the god of winds and there was also a god of time which we now know to be Istaroth. Very likely that Venti is Istaroth's child but atm its still a theory.
This is his vision of freedom I guess. Last time he intervened and tried to free Venessa, she got turned into an eagle so :') but yeah the thousand years long naps were mostly to recover (although I had mentioned it as a joke but had to cut it)
I was literally just talking about this with my friend the other day We ended up on: Lust - Tsaritsa Gluttony - Pyro Archron (we didn’t know much about them but we put on the gluttony and insatiable thirst for violence) Greed - Kusanali Sloth - Barbados Wrath - Beelzebub Envy - Focalors Pride - Morax I loved seeing someone else’s take on it though
The demons are a mess to be honest, every religion had a different take on them! Since the game bases the archons on the Goetia, I went for the Goethic aspect
@@moonvalkyrietvI am sure they didn't just pick the goetia for reference.. there are exact 7 archons to represent 7 deadly sins... Genshin have mixed culture reference
Buer (the demon) is associated with qualities that are very much part of the virtue "Charity". So the opposite of charity is greed. Greed is about hoarding knowledge, which is what the Akademiya did and what Nahida herself did by exchanging 2 gnoses for more knowledge. On the other hand Gluttony is the compulsive consumption of something to the point it becomes unhealhty and that cannot be stopped. I have a shot video on tiktok/instagram where I talk about the Saurian Search event where Ranjit saiys that while in Natlan, although he was not hungry anymore he couldn't help to stuff himself with food more and more and more. And as said in the video, Pyro is associated with food and the Hindu god Agni who was a god that acted as a "conduct" for the offering to the gods, being related to food, the mouth, the stomach etc, after all, fire devours everything.
What I thought: Venti= Sloth Morax= Greed Shogun= Glutony Nahida= Envy Focalors= Pride Murata= Wrath Tsaritsa= Lust I guess we only agreed on Venti and the Tsaritsa.
This is my take on the topic. These are not the character flaws of the Archon's, but more so the themes surrounding them: Venti - Lust. A wonder lust for freedom. A passion for the arts. Zhongli - Wrath. Everyone in agreement on that. Raiden - Sloth. An eternal slumber. Left her work to be done by an autonomous puppet while she meditated. Her nation was in a state of stagnation. Nahida - Gluttony. A hunger for knowledge and wisdom. An academy that would consume all there is to know in the world. Furina - Envy. Agree with the reason in the video. Murata - Pride. Proud warriors and proud heritage. Confident in combat. Like a lion's pride. Inheritance and birth-right. Tsaritsa - Greed. Wanting absolute power. Gathering wealth, resources and weapons. Would seek to claim Teyvat and Celestia all for themselves.
That is an interesting take and close to my very first take on this, until I actually compared with the virtues and the themes surrounding both the Goetia demons and the Teyvat lore. It's actually hard to clearly attribute them only based on game lore and the Archons' personnality are very misleading considering that haha. Although I have one thing to say: I would probably never attribute Pride to Murata solely based on the fact that "Muratan" didn't even have an heritage, they forgot it all. But yeah :)
Well, wouldn't you rebel if it was to defend your loved ones? Cryo is also associated with Shiva, who is a feared god because he's destructive. But he's also considered a benevolent god and very family oriented :)
Lust is the desire to do boom boom shakalaka non stop..love in English can mean any kind of love..selfless love for needy, love for family .love for friends and lover .. in Greek there are different terms for different type of love
@@iWillRun_ lust is not just carnal desire. It's to also long for something. AND as said here, in the video where I talk about the Tsaritsa being Lust, I explain why. So please go watch it.
@@soujiokita6062 Lust is not only carnal desire. It's also longing for something. You could be lusting for life, knowledge, and even love itself. I explained why she was lust in the mentioned video.
wrong morax is greed since he makes contracts , and contracts allow people to take things without fighting ,and save wrath for mavuika that aztec biker lady!
saying "wrong" because you have a different opinion doesn't make you right, especially when your counter argument doesn't hold ground regarding the big picture :)
because most of these demons have different interpretations depending on which religion/myth you take them from. In the Goetia, Baal/Beelzebub is not associated with Gluttony at all.
In the beginning of the video I talk about the Cryo Archon and specifically show which video you can go look for on my page for her own association to the Seven Deadly Sins
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Imagine if the Pyro archon's actually a masochist lol
that's not that hard to imagine, like at all.
venti being sloth also makes sense bc he is known for slumbering for hundreds of years at times and leaving the people of mondstadt to fend for themselves which doesnt always end up well, like what happened with signora's lover. also what is that thing about venti being part of istaroth?
this is not true :') venti isnt like that at all. he fell asleep to heal from the battle he fought against durin with dvalin to protect mondstadt.. and when he woke up he was heartbroken with what was done to mondstadt by the lawrence clan so he immediately solved the issue by guiding vannessa and boosting her abilities. as for signora's lover it was his own doing, not venti's. and istaroth and venti both have some sort of connection and apparently used to rule together (seen in the time island quest + the saying of the wind being a seed of time)
venti wants mondstadt to be free because he doesnt want to be like the previous tyrannic ruler decarabian, and in the archon quest venti was the one to help and save dvalin (with traveler's assistance), and he couldve done it from the very beginning if the traveler hadnt interrupted him with paimon.
Venti being part of Istaroth could also be from the fact that Istaroth is called "The Thousand Winds [of Time]" (Source : Byakuyakoku book 3) and Venti was "single thread of the thousand winds" (Source : Venti's character story 3)
Thats his definition of true freedom. He doesnt want to guide people and tell them how to live. He shows up when people of Mondstadt need his help to be free from the tyranny again.
Its somewhat known in the game lore that Venti is somehow associated or related to god of time.
Mondstadt used to worship two gods at some point. One was Venti the god of winds and there was also a god of time which we now know to be Istaroth.
Very likely that Venti is Istaroth's child but atm its still a theory.
@@Cyuutie Yes that's what it is :)
This is his vision of freedom I guess. Last time he intervened and tried to free Venessa, she got turned into an eagle so :') but yeah the thousand years long naps were mostly to recover (although I had mentioned it as a joke but had to cut it)
I was literally just talking about this with my friend the other day
We ended up on:
Lust - Tsaritsa
Gluttony - Pyro Archron (we didn’t know much about them but we put on the gluttony and insatiable thirst for violence)
Greed - Kusanali
Sloth - Barbados
Wrath - Beelzebub
Envy - Focalors
Pride - Morax
I loved seeing someone else’s take on it though
Yay we're matching!
@@moonvalkyrietv that’s so cool!
@@moonvalkyrietvexcept for Pride and Wrath
Beezelbub ironically is the Arch-demon of Gluttony in Christian Demonology.
The demons are a mess to be honest, every religion had a different take on them! Since the game bases the archons on the Goetia, I went for the Goethic aspect
@@moonvalkyrietvI am sure they didn't just pick the goetia for reference.. there are exact 7 archons to represent 7 deadly sins... Genshin have mixed culture reference
I'd say that Gluttony probably fits Nahida better than Greed, as learning knowledge could be understood as "consuming" it.
Buer (the demon) is associated with qualities that are very much part of the virtue "Charity". So the opposite of charity is greed. Greed is about hoarding knowledge, which is what the Akademiya did and what Nahida herself did by exchanging 2 gnoses for more knowledge. On the other hand Gluttony is the compulsive consumption of something to the point it becomes unhealhty and that cannot be stopped. I have a shot video on tiktok/instagram where I talk about the Saurian Search event where Ranjit saiys that while in Natlan, although he was not hungry anymore he couldn't help to stuff himself with food more and more and more. And as said in the video, Pyro is associated with food and the Hindu god Agni who was a god that acted as a "conduct" for the offering to the gods, being related to food, the mouth, the stomach etc, after all, fire devours everything.
Venti doesn’t ask for help, if you actually read the AQ he had a plan the whole time until we ruined it
Venti asks for help all the time. I'm not necessarily speaking about the AQ only.
What I thought:
Venti= Sloth
Morax= Greed
Shogun= Glutony
Nahida= Envy
Focalors= Pride
Murata= Wrath
Tsaritsa= Lust
I guess we only agreed on Venti and the Tsaritsa.
This is my take on the topic. These are not the character flaws of the Archon's, but more so the themes surrounding them:
Venti - Lust. A wonder lust for freedom. A passion for the arts.
Zhongli - Wrath. Everyone in agreement on that.
Raiden - Sloth. An eternal slumber. Left her work to be done by an autonomous puppet while she meditated. Her nation was in a state of stagnation.
Nahida - Gluttony. A hunger for knowledge and wisdom. An academy that would consume all there is to know in the world.
Furina - Envy. Agree with the reason in the video.
Murata - Pride. Proud warriors and proud heritage. Confident in combat. Like a lion's pride. Inheritance and birth-right.
Tsaritsa - Greed. Wanting absolute power. Gathering wealth, resources and weapons. Would seek to claim Teyvat and Celestia all for themselves.
That is an interesting take and close to my very first take on this, until I actually compared with the virtues and the themes surrounding both the Goetia demons and the Teyvat lore. It's actually hard to clearly attribute them only based on game lore and the Archons' personnality are very misleading considering that haha. Although I have one thing to say: I would probably never attribute Pride to Murata solely based on the fact that "Muratan" didn't even have an heritage, they forgot it all. But yeah :)
kinda wierd that the goddes of Love governs the element of defiance and rebellion...
Well, wouldn't you rebel if it was to defend your loved ones? Cryo is also associated with Shiva, who is a feared god because he's destructive. But he's also considered a benevolent god and very family oriented :)
Lust =\= love
Lust is the desire to do boom boom shakalaka non stop..love in English can mean any kind of love..selfless love for needy, love for family .love for friends and lover .. in Greek there are different terms for different type of love
@@iWillRun_ lust is not just carnal desire. It's to also long for something. AND as said here, in the video where I talk about the Tsaritsa being Lust, I explain why. So please go watch it.
@@soujiokita6062 Lust is not only carnal desire. It's also longing for something. You could be lusting for life, knowledge, and even love itself. I explained why she was lust in the mentioned video.
wrong morax is greed since he makes contracts , and contracts allow people to take things without fighting ,and save wrath for mavuika that aztec biker lady!
saying "wrong" because you have a different opinion doesn't make you right, especially when your counter argument doesn't hold ground regarding the big picture :)
Its funny sin are different from their demon name... It was always funny to me that ei was named after demon of gluttony..
because most of these demons have different interpretations depending on which religion/myth you take them from. In the Goetia, Baal/Beelzebub is not associated with Gluttony at all.
What about the cryo archon??
In the beginning of the video I talk about the Cryo Archon and specifically show which video you can go look for on my page for her own association to the Seven Deadly Sins