Christians & Debt: The Wicked Borrow but Do Not Pay Back - Ask Pastor Tim

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  • How should Christians view and treat financial debt? Should Christians ever get into debt? Are different kinds of debt more significant or urgent than others? Should Christians ignore paying off debt for the sake of using their money to help others?
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    Psalm 37:21 - The wicked borrows but does not pay back, but the righteous is generous and gives...
    More resources on money & stewardship: illbehonest.com/topic/money-s...

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  • @WhimsyWendy
    @WhimsyWendy 5 років тому +21

    Psalm 37:21 has always bothered my conscious. After scrimping and saving, today I finally repaid $2k to a relative I borrowed from several years ago. I didn't really need to repay, but I do not want to be one of those wicked persons in the eyes of God.

  • @singereslteacher
    @singereslteacher 3 роки тому +14

    I'm deeply convicted... I have lots of debt even to my sister. Because she's my sister, i tend to overlook my debts to her. I feel so wicked. What a wicked attitude.

    • @legocitybatmansetlifestyle7761
      @legocitybatmansetlifestyle7761 2 роки тому +2

      I'm wicked too. I own my mom alot of money from credit card debt fixing my car and buying shoes and everything. I paid her some back. But I own her so much more

  • @slimalinga_
    @slimalinga_ 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you Pastor for this. Convicted to start stewarding and acting with integrity. This is where fear on approaching comes in but we release the sting of rejection

  • @arunbadung4412
    @arunbadung4412 2 дні тому

    I'm also deeply convicted... Even though I have a lot of debt from my friends and family.

  • @keeplookingup4jesus365
    @keeplookingup4jesus365 6 років тому +2

    Thank you! This was excellent advice! God bless you, Pastor Tim.

  • @GPatrick137
    @GPatrick137 5 років тому +2

    thank you so much pastor tim, you clarified this issue for me

  • @johnrobinson9639
    @johnrobinson9639 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent! Mahalo. I'm convicted. This made me search my own heart about greed. I was ignoring something that God was not ignoring if you catch my drift

  • @thewatcher4552
    @thewatcher4552 Рік тому +1

    Biblical wisdom 🙌🏾 🙏🏽 ✝️ We just live in a society buy now, pay later. We have to fight that. He is so right it's just greed and living within our means.

  • @vimaldevassy8781
    @vimaldevassy8781 Рік тому

    Thank you so much

  • @JoshJorg44
    @JoshJorg44 3 роки тому +5

    I am in a situation with my student loans where I was lied to in the beginning. I have now paid back over $20,000 more than I borrowed and I still owe way more than I have ever paid.

    • @LittleBabywriter
      @LittleBabywriter Рік тому

      I don't think if you are lied to you can say you agreed to what you were given. But your conscience has to be pure.

  • @aliceyalenga7267
    @aliceyalenga7267 3 роки тому +4

    This a beautiful teaching I have come across about debts coupled with the word of God🙏🏾😊❤️

  • @jergarmar
    @jergarmar Місяць тому +1

    I appreciate that he starts by talking about borrowing between people with relationships, like friends, family, or church. That's clearly the primary intent of Psalm 37 v 21. But excommunicating people for credit card debt (which he mentions at 16:38) seems pretty wrong to me. I disagree with that position. I could understand if it kept a person out of a position of church leadership, though.

  • @olegpetelevitch4443
    @olegpetelevitch4443 Рік тому

    Spot on !

  • @enasbadri8996
    @enasbadri8996 Рік тому +1

    If you get in an agreement, you're oblidged to conform. If you borrow money from family member no matter how small, have it written down and sign it. This way will save everyone from forgetting the amount or misunderstanding its a gift. Hi, a Muslim liked this video.

  • @susanshafer9696
    @susanshafer9696 6 років тому +6

    When I was young, foolish and mentally ill I ran up over $100,000 in unsecured credit card debt. I have religious OCD and don't have impulse control. To me, money was just figures on a page. I was out of touch with reality and declared bankruptcy. God allowed the Israelites to be debt free every 7 years and have their land returned to them on the year of jubilee. All authority comes from God and that government has passed laws that allow people to declare bankruptcy and become debt free. Does taking bankruptcy make me WICKED and ineligible of inheriting the kingdom? Lost, can't be saved?
    Would your mind change if I take or had taken bankruptcy again?

    • @michaelharder9737
      @michaelharder9737 6 років тому +1

      Susan Shafer I think that before you let yourself take any more debts on, you should deal with your mental health

    • @osirysteamo
      @osirysteamo Рік тому

      Maybe because i grew in a country where i saw people
      (Including my parents) have to earn money to eat
      And afford basic necessities
      I see here people living luxuriously and often not really earning those “things”
      I can’t see myself not earning my bread and not working hard for what i own

  • @flat012
    @flat012 Рік тому

    ok, alright thanks for the tip

  • @dariussutherland6307
    @dariussutherland6307 Рік тому

    Tim! Thank you for answering and sharing this question.
    Also has anyone said you look like Woody Harrison

  • @jesuslovesyou4634
    @jesuslovesyou4634 Рік тому +2

    LOVE THIS💛
    😂”Can you get me some coffee?”

    • @brandonstrange6978
      @brandonstrange6978 Рік тому

      I love Pastor Tim. Always sound biblical advice. He also makes me chuckle.

  • @shanetaylor3087
    @shanetaylor3087 6 років тому +17

    Adam, Adam Adam... hilarious

    • @amuslockhart519
      @amuslockhart519 6 років тому +4

      Shane Taylor poor Adam. He will be forever referred to as Coffee fetcher.... hahaha

  • @neverendingfun2933
    @neverendingfun2933 Місяць тому

    The problem I have with this answer, is that the banks and credit card companies (money changers) are not actually loaning their own money, they’re literally creating it out of thin air. On top of that, using predatory lending practices. I don’t believe that is the same kind of de t that you borrowed from family or a friend.

  • @hopeseeker97
    @hopeseeker97 6 років тому

    What do you do when your husband puts you into debt and you are forced to be bankrupt? You tried to do all you could but divorce wasn’t an option. So you had to go over the falls and end up shipwrecked...again. Putting this on my list and am interested in what this video covers.

  • @kenrilla
    @kenrilla Рік тому +1

    People still owe me money they said they were going to Pay me back. I haven’t seen it yet.

  • @FourbrrlGrabber
    @FourbrrlGrabber 3 роки тому +1

    What if, your autograph on the “supposed” contract is the credit they are “lending” you ?

  • @NicholasMcDonald845
    @NicholasMcDonald845 Рік тому

    I’m in trouble I owe a lot of restitution and debts I don’t know if I can pay it all back I need mercy

  • @johnting4718
    @johnting4718 2 роки тому

    please pray for me, i had been debt on my credit card due to affects of my last companyAnd my last company has been owe my salary payment..

  • @almay9962
    @almay9962 3 роки тому +1

    if I max out my credit cards and only pay the minimum payment but die before fully paying it back, is that wicked. I would be current

  • @YoungBlaze
    @YoungBlaze 25 днів тому

    Hows your relationship with them now?

  • @danielgoodman3578
    @danielgoodman3578 8 місяців тому

    I waited to watch the whole thing before commenting. So I'll still ask: Does Pastor Tim therefore believe filing for bankruptcy is wicked?

  • @robertlawgall8163
    @robertlawgall8163 2 місяці тому

    from a chritian point of view i have a friend that keeps asking me for money but never pays it back what should I do

  • @Foczee
    @Foczee 4 роки тому

    Where does usury and interest fit into the equation? If we pay the interest aren't we feeding the dragon so to speak?

  • @patiencepeters2973
    @patiencepeters2973 11 місяців тому

    Pastor Tim,Im a Nigerian,a mother of 4 children..Ive been searching for financial help to support my family. Pls help..

  • @joannthomases9304
    @joannthomases9304 29 днів тому

    Well we have paid everyone's war debts down within years and sent our money to other nations. So we suffer here, but this excess on "interest" is the bad situation, as the money changers took the Gold and did fractional banking.then after keeping that Gold charged interest on the paper left !!!!!

  • @NoName-hg6ez
    @NoName-hg6ez 6 років тому

    Communicate hhhmmm.......they rarely negotiate anymore companies don't have alot of integrity anymore or just plain good customer service or accommodate the consumer..but just payback someway somehow

  • @susanmerk9699
    @susanmerk9699 3 роки тому

    i have a ? if someone use my credit card without me knowing & she took it.she had a payee over me i tryied my hardest to stop it from happening but the bank would not believe me.i even put must see ID on it but they still let her use it but how can fix it.but i have very little income i can't afford it.im trying to pay back as much as i can

  • @uncheckers
    @uncheckers 8 місяців тому

    I need someone's advice pls! I have a situation...I lent money to a friend who promised to pay after 2 months; She's not actually poor...
    she only needed to clear somethings that moment...but now she doesn't want to pay me back...she just keep giving excuses!
    How do I handle this as a Christian? It's really quite a substantial amount of money...and I no longer am working:
    Thank you very much in advancea Godn bless all here... Amen@

  • @susanmerk9699
    @susanmerk9699 3 роки тому +1

    my doctors won't let me work.i didn't know what she was doing i thought she was paying this i didn't know until she left me what she had done

  • @herplace9827
    @herplace9827 5 років тому +5

    He looks and sounds like Woody Harrelson

  • @jackwilley9847
    @jackwilley9847 Рік тому

    This is common sense. People shouldn't be dealing with people who are shady and you yourself should repent if borrowing too much that you can't pay back. Work hard pay back your debts.

  • @brandonburdette9670
    @brandonburdette9670 4 роки тому +3

    To a point your right but to a point your not. I don't think God intended for corporate America to rip people off like they do

    • @kalvinsmith5723
      @kalvinsmith5723 3 роки тому +2

      Debt isn't forced upon you. You agree to terms. Dont live outside your means. Save emergency fund for the unexpected. Then gift yourself and others.

    • @brandonburdette9670
      @brandonburdette9670 3 роки тому +2

      @@kalvinsmith5723 dr bills are forced upon you that statement is wrong

    • @kalvinsmith5723
      @kalvinsmith5723 3 роки тому

      Example?

    • @kalvinsmith5723
      @kalvinsmith5723 3 роки тому

      @@brandonburdette9670 I'm agree with you on corporate America ripping off citizens on a large scale btw.

    • @brandonburdette9670
      @brandonburdette9670 3 роки тому +1

      @@kalvinsmith5723 if u go into cardiac arrest then you have no choice you got a bill whether you like it or not if you live even if u don't sign anything

  • @susanmerk9699
    @susanmerk9699 3 роки тому +2

    i can barley pay for my shelter

  • @susanmerk9699
    @susanmerk9699 3 роки тому

    what do you do if your payee get use your credit cards without your knowledge.i would get in the shower & she use it.is that my fault.i try to tell them with my income after she did this but what do i do

  • @salgilead2801
    @salgilead2801 8 місяців тому

    ““At the end of every seventh year you are to cancel the debts of those who owe you money. This is how it is to be done. Each of you who has lent money to any Israelite is to cancel the debt; you must not try to collect the money; the Lord himself has declared the debt canceled.”
    ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭15‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭

    • @bethanyyy7695
      @bethanyyy7695 4 місяці тому

      So let people who take money and not pay back keep it???? Um no

  • @nobie9372
    @nobie9372 11 місяців тому

    what if you are not able to return the borrowed money anymore? what should I do?

    • @salgilead2801
      @salgilead2801 8 місяців тому

      Bankruptcy is a choice to start fresh

  • @MAMlife
    @MAMlife Рік тому

    I have a lot of debt and am trying to pay it back, bit by bit but then I have so many other people asking me for money to support them but I don't have enough to do both and eat as well. I am already living in a caravan and have nothing left but am constantly begged for money by online beggars..what do I do?

    • @illbehonest
      @illbehonest  Рік тому

      From your brief note it sounds like the "so many other people asking me for money" are situations that you should say no to, especially if by giving them money it is only increasing your personal debt. You say they are people "begging for money by online beggars" -- it is one thing to have a close family member need help with rent, but to have someone ask for money online, who knows how verifiable it is on what they are going to use that money for. And if you say no to giving someone money and they try to manipulate you into feeling bad...just remember, by saying no you are seeking to get out of the debt... and the "lot of debt" you have should be something to feel conviction over. The Lord by calling you to obey him in one area (get out of debt) will not cause you to sin in another (by not giving to someone who asks). Hope this helps.

  • @Rin_Chawngthu
    @Rin_Chawngthu 6 років тому

    Is the rapture pre or mid or post tribulation?

    • @fatarsemonkey
      @fatarsemonkey 6 років тому

      It's happening, no flesh can inherit the kingdom of heaven.
      Watch this, she sees people being caught up to God.
      ua-cam.com/video/rbwmhwC-rgQ/v-deo.html

  • @bernadette2722
    @bernadette2722 2 роки тому +1

    🙄🥱 this is common sense isn’t it ?

  • @almay9962
    @almay9962 4 роки тому +1

    if a debt is more than 7 years old, do I need to repay it, isn't debt jubilee in the Bible

  • @iambranden
    @iambranden 2 роки тому

    I disagree but I just have different moral standards. As long as I am not hurting anyone, a person, another human, I dont feel bad. I dont care about Verizons bottom line. I dont care about GE MONEY BANK or whoever 's bottom line. I would pay back debt to a family member or person but I don't care about big corporations. Period

    • @enasbadri8996
      @enasbadri8996 Рік тому +3

      If everyone choeses his/ her own standards of morality, probably someones' will change one day and chose not to pay back anyone at all. Following the book is safer, because Satan is round the corner.

    • @christianmoviesexcerpts
      @christianmoviesexcerpts Рік тому

      Imagine, you are the owner of the big corporation and people are owing and they said, I don't care?

    • @christianmoviesexcerpts
      @christianmoviesexcerpts Рік тому

      The bible is the standard

  • @Ads-uv5ds
    @Ads-uv5ds 3 місяці тому

    Ok so lenders give you money to make money in interest.
    .. is that from God ? Debt is entering in a contract from the devil.

  • @sweeta6007
    @sweeta6007 28 днів тому

    My husband worked as a contract Attorney to a greedy Lawyer he wants my husband to work with him but he will pay my husband according to when he wants he doesn’t even think that my husband has wife and children to feed. He still owe my husband $700 that Lawyer said he can’t pay right now because he still have to pay his taxes he is a very bad and greedy Lawyer his Name is Mike Massey

  • @David-qs7io
    @David-qs7io Рік тому

    Well, the first thing that must be answered is whose name is the debt in? Is it in your ALL CAPITAL letters name? That name is your US 14th amendment citizen, or you US taxpayer. Under the Constitution we must pay our debts with gold coin,since they removed the gold coin we can not pay any debt under Constitutional law. All debts must be discharged through proper set off. There are collateral accounts for all our debts to be discharged please Google Treasury collateral management and monitoring or 31 CFR part 202,225,380. Research this and the Bureau of Fiscal service public debt. The churches and the ones that are teaching the people are teaching false doctrine. Why do you think that almost all tombstones around the world are in ALL CAPITAL letters names??? Can anyone answer this question?

  • @billypate667
    @billypate667 5 років тому +1

    I d ot believe the wick borrow but dont pay back jesus the judge for give debt of srevent and he whent out and rought up his debter he saw it and set him striaght if poor and cant pay jesus said give and dont ask back

    • @davyjackson2761
      @davyjackson2761 4 роки тому

      It says it in the bible it's in pslams 37 verse 21 that's what it says