I spend my days working at an office, it's secure, it's comfortable, and it's easy. It also makes me miserable. And when it's the weekend and I don't "do something" I hate myself even more. I crave for a sense of accomplishment , a sense of meaning, and a sense of impact.
Fight for the revolution comrade, capitalism is causing unimaginable amounts of pain, but we have been tricked by those who benefit from it, into thinking that the solution is worse. It is not. Abolishing private property is the solution. That's how we end consumerism, that's how we end poverty, wars, the modern slavery of wage labor, and our only hope to develop a society that is sustainable socially, economically, and ecologically. I used to think it was a stupid idea until I actually started looking into it. There has been so much propaganda against it. The ruling class doesn't want to loose their power, they can't allow socialism to exist because it threathens their existence as rulers. I'm bad at motivating people, I probably sound like a cult reader right now, but I'm only asking you to investigate the subject. Educate yourself. Learn the principles of communism/socialism. Learn about Karl Marx, and his analysis of capitalism. It explains in great details the contradictions of this system, and how it will fail. Every single one of his predictions are terrifyingly accurate. There has been problems with previous attempts at socialism, but these problems have been greatly exagerated, their acomplishement are never talked about, and the reason that is often brought up for their flaws (communism itself) has most of the time not much to do with communism. The millions of deaths and the immense suffering caused by capitalism meanwhile, is mostly ignored, or normalized. But don't listen to me, keep an open mind and go search for yourself, this is where you will find a sense of meaning, something pure and worth fighting for in this fucked up world
You should consider getting a job in the arts (even an office job, if you're nervous to stray too far from that - in a live theater, you will still be making an impact, because you'd be helping a team of people bring the arts to people in your city); in a theater, museum, concert hall, etc., learn a craft; carpentry/woodworking, baking, cooking, metalworking, etc., learn something artistic; acting, dance, painting, singing, etc. or become a teacher of something you're passionate about, either to kids or adults. There are also jobs that are very useful and needed in society that are not the arts, like being a firefighter, working in a hospital, working in local government, etc. I think you probably lean toward having an interest in one of the things I mentioned and can explore one as a hobby, volunteer, intern or part time position on weekends at a hospital or interning at a theater, or working on a local political campaign, taking classes in something artistic you're curious about trying, etc. see if you might want to do something similar more full time. Think of your boring weekends as two days to take acting classes or volunteer at a hospital or work on a campaign or teach something or make something. Trying things and getting into something is often what leads people to develop a passion of they didn't previously have one. I have faith that you will find your passion and your calling in this life. Good luck! Don't give up! You can really do almost anything. Just try different things if you're not sure what you're into and your passion will develop and lead the way.
Good for you that you can at least see this and realize it. You will change it. The title is bad but I recommend: “Think and grow rich” by Napoleon Hill. Anything worth doing is worth doing to perfection.
But who is to say what is a irrational choice or not ? If you proclaim to be rational and to know what is and what isn´t a rational choice concerning consumption then you are rather smug and believe your superior.
25 years ago I threw my television out the window, literally - don't worry, it was on the first floor - and never looked back. For me, that day was the first day of true liberation.
he is Human and all the rest is not so important. But yes, I know the difference about what you mentioned. In general, I divide people by good and bad and not by religion, skin colour, etc. so by his words I put him in a basket of people of good will
WHICH people aren't 'just selfish'? Who doesn't want to be selfish at times and dignified (whatever that means) at other times? But there is a lot of money in promoting selfishness, and not much money in promoting 'making do with less'.
No, people are in fact just selfish. Every single decision you make is based on some aspect of selfishness, whether it be for gratification or avoiding negative emotion.
DoJo Starfox i had a talk with a friend who also has a similar perspective, I'm not sure if avoiding negative emotion can be looked at as selfish, is wanting to be happy selfish or would wanting to be happy at the expense of others selfish, i thought there was a difference there. I don't think both should be looked at as selfish as it has a more negative connotation.
It is, just be sure to properly critic his work and look for flaws on it as much as you can. Else you will find yourself with a new dogma and nothing much learned. For instance the suggestion than the rich purposely engineer the life of the poor without immersing themselves into it is ludicrous. Isn't it possible that the "poor", the majority have an equal pull over them by determining what is popular and what is not. Look at the entertainment industry right now. It is obvious that they cant push whatever they want and make it be culture defining. Isn't also the consumer the ultimate arbiter of what culture becomes? Aren't also huge corporation dancing to the whim of the average consumer wants? I see blockbuster films losing millions left and right, because they push politics, or just doesn't have "it". I think this ideas are a good point to start, but a far cry of a true representation of reality. That is simply too complex for ape minds to fully grasp. But that wont stop us for trying. Closer to truth even a few steps is better than farther isn't it? To what I say: Maybe.
@@klaussone You're pretty much describing Dialectical Materialism. The concept that the material (money put forth in advertisment) shapes the culture (what people like), and then that culture shapes how future advertisiment money is allocated.
@@sudovirus3285 Its one of many possibilities. Consider that one doesn't have all the factors to properly evaluate every situation, leave only the sensible assumption that other similarly plausible possibilities are also likely as long as they really are plausible.
I feel awful that our creativity and potential has been intentionally targeted to fail. I have this mantra that I say everyday: I want not to need and need not to want. This is helping me find out who I am truly, without influence.
But you shouldn't be surprised. There is no exception in history, where the "ruling class", which translates better to those people who have the capacity to use force/violence in ways that will maintain their existing power and expand it where possible. So many people are forced to struggle alone, with what you pointed out: identity. Who am I? And this is a humane question, meaning institutions should be put in place to help you develop "yourself". But, we obviously don't have that. We have abominations like "school", "church", and the like
There is no truly you, it's a void, it's the search of consciousnesses itself. Also impossible without influences, humans are social animals, we create ourselves through others (how you learn language, logic, to walk, etc). You do not exist in a vacuum. But you won't learn this from Chomsky.
is disappointing our wants have been manufactured ... we would like believe that we are making choices of our own volition regarding our purchases and lifestyles... when in fact everyone of them is marketed to us from snobby wine taster to communal hippie. resistance is futile...
@Renkinjutsushi Yes, much of what we are as individuals is a social construct - we are what we are in relation to others and our social environment. But although Chomsky may not be not explicit about the social construct of self, I see that concept as implicit in many of his arguments. E.g. considering 'dignity' as a human need.
@@DrDress He's a political dope. Chomsky does a bad job of understanding Realpolitik. He does an even worse job of understanding the fundamental difference between trying to kill civilians and accidentally killing civilians in pursuit of those who are trying to kill other civilians . Despite his claims otherwise, he's more or less the last survivor of a group of intellectuals who thought systemic political violence and totalitarian control were essentially good things. He babbles about human rights all the time, but when you look at the regimes and groups he's supported or is neutral on in criticism, it’s a very bloody list indeed. Chomsky allows people to feel justified in their refusal to think. They never have to ask themselves any difficult questions or provide any difficult answers. It’s a forum of heavy stats, bias, and intellectual cowardice. Sure, America has meddled, and mucked things up. We have a lot of power, and we've done some stupid things in hindsight. But is America the infinite evil of the world that calls for the annihilation of entire peoples? No. And we have the power to do that on any given day. Would you trust Muslim countries, Russia, or N Korea to behave? No. They would be worse. All countries are selfish and this is not to excuse America but it’s knee-jerk haters are not on mark. It's OK to call a bad game when you see it. But his entire rhetoric is basically anti America and that incites the nuts in the world. If we are the bad guys, then i guess he wants us to hand over the reigns of control to the other worst guys? I want our bastards in power. We would have taken over Mexico and Canada if we were Russia. The US is not that nice but there are much worse places. If Chomsky mentioned that the US had decent intentions on some occasions and at the same time selfish intentions, as all countries do, he might even find a larger audience and I would find the guy to be tolerable. I look at social and political outcomes (casually not professionally) and he is off the charts as far as reaching the average US citizen. But more importantly he might be contributing to agitating and unhinging an already unhinged angry group of people. If the US vanishes, who replaces us? Russia, China, Iran, N Korea?
@@abegohr2576 Nonsense. There are no human races anymore apart from all of us. There is tiny genetical difference between people from different regions adapting to there living conditions the last 2000 - 6000 years. Which is not even a second for evolution. so your statement is based on a completely false asumption. Reaching an old age can be influenced by genetic factors, mattering on if your family has a history of hereditary disease. Other than that the most important factors for reaching an old age are: - a healthy diet - an active life, sport, but not to much or extreme - healthy social relations. There might be other factors for sure, but these are the essentials.
Another reason I'm a fan of Noam Chomsky. He understands most people want to feel useful. They want to work, and feel the dignity that comes from providing for yourself. And people like that deserve to be paid enough to afford a decent lifestyle.
I'm amazed that Wallace Shawn asked such an interesting philosophical question phrased in a relatable way. And even more impressed that Noam Chomsky STILL had an analysis to give back that was historically rich and even personable.
I know I’m super late to these comments but Wallace Shawn made a whole movie about having engaging conversations like this called dinner with Andre and it’s pretty much this.
Sometimes i find Chomsky a little depressing when he runs through the list of awful things our free democratic countries have been up to. I like this interview because he gives you the opportunity to question yourself, what you do and why... I'm in my mid 50s and when we sit round the table at a cafe, we're all trying to remember, a name or something? Chomsky must be pushing 90 and he's sharp as a needle.... How many books has he written? more than a hundred?
@Mike Girard Have you found that having a supercilious attitude towards those you're trying to help has resulted in the advancement of the cause or a greater promotion of the radicals you prefer?
Then again, he does this for a living. You’re probably very sharp at what you do still! It’s all about training that part of the brain. I find Chomsky more validating than depressing. I am often very critical about the world around me and it depresses me too, so knowing I am not alone in my view of the world and in wanting to change it makes me feel better
there are aspects of the human condition which are universal. when talking about human condition, you don't talk about the system because otherwise, you'd be talking about the system and not the human condition
You can blame classical liberal philosophy for that one. Its unproven fundamental principles are just accepted by people, regardless of their political persuasion. What passes as a rational position in western society is just another, relatively new, ideology.
Wallace Shawn is so good here. Says the right things to provoke this great response from Chomsky and then just let's him talk. It made me think about how little of My Dinner With Andre is Wallace talking and made me wish that he had had interview series
I will occasionally find myself getting obsessively wrapped up in a video game, and while I enjoy it, I do have to recognize and remind myself that it's the false sense of accomplishment that I find most satisfying.
@@alfonsomartineztorres5749 how is it not false? it's happening in your head.. nobody else in the real world gives a shit about your "achievement" pixels.. and most likely the game won't matter to you in a few days/weeks/months/years from now.. time you could have invested in a career.. you literally waste sitting down looking at a painting..
@@ginofoogle6944 Well I guess that is what happiness is, its subjective and we still dont understand this concept of qualia. I dont think its fair to dismiss a video game just coz of a career, At the end of the day the whole point of many careers is to make money and you make money to have more freedom, The video game represents various human needs the need for fantasy, escapism, adventure, achievement and getting away from the mundane world just as with movies and amusement parks. But of course the enlightened individual knows that all these "pleasures" have diminsihing returns and they dont give off everlasting happiness. All pleasures get boring eventually.
video games are not only a waste of time keeping you from growing and learnng. they distract and undermine you from the start. they exploit human weakness like ciggies, booze or crack.
"Get your parents to get this thing for you or you're gonna die, then they get it and you throw it away after 5 minutes." My brother had so many events like this. I can't count the number of special items my parents had to chase down, the last weird trending toy in stock, and how it became forgotten in the closet in a few weeks, the happiness it bought him lasting less time than the misery spent pleading for it. I'm glad I grew up poor and I was the older child who had to suck it up and deal with having less. It made me not give a crap about material trends and instead value a few material things more (because they enable my creativity or passionate interests) and value them in a way that isn't tied to my self esteem. I got lucky I guess. Nothing special about me to make me that way, just deprived I suppose in the right proportions.
Perhaps you agree that deprivation is relative to what people around you have. But you seem to have had the gift of avoiding envy and the desire to consume. I wish you well, and hope this gift becomes more general.
"Deprived in the right proportions" I really like that! My parents were children of the depression and taught me and my siblings the joy of living a life that was simple, but filled with intellectual curiosity.
Christopher Bradley "......And yet for aught I see, they are as sick that surfeit with too much as they that starve with nothing. It is no mean happiness, therefore, to be seated in the mean. Superfluity comes sooner by white hairs, but competency lives longer." Shakespeare - The Merchant of Venice.
Fuck. I was like your brother. My family was thoroughly middle class and would buy me every toy I demanded. We even had a whole extra room called "The Toy Room" full of toys and coloring books and the likes that I simply never--or rarely--played with. It was actually kind of cool in a way because I had my own personal forest of "stuff" to go and discover. Who knows what I would or could find in there. But really I was just hording toys. I've come to reflect on and question my decadence as a child. It didn't make me a better person. It made me entitled and spoiled. I kind of live below my potential by a lot. I suppose that led me to middle-class anti-capitalism and Chomsky though because people would guilt me for how "good" I had it and I thought "well, maybe this wouldn't happen if everyone had what I have. Why can't everyone have it as good as I do?" I probably wouldn't have gotten here if I wasn't so materially spoiled. But I don't think it's worth it. I played my family and "won", just as the advertisers intended.
Professor Chomsky is so refreshing! I almost completely agreed with the host’s opening statement until Chomsky began to speak. We all need to remember we all are intellectual, productive beings. Hugh efforts are being made every second of our lives to take our mind away from the important matters
This is a REAL intellectual discussion because I genuinely see both points of view, since both were so clearly and eloquently presented. Most of the time, I'm rolling my eyes at one side or another. It's refreshing when both participants are interested in *listening* to one another. So rare.
let's not forget that based on the evidence and arguments presented, one of these views was rendered illegitimate - to the point maybe of not being considered "intellectual" at all. i wonder if the person asking the question did not exactly believe what he himself purported to believe... but instead was pretending ("acting" one might say) to have his own philosophical foundations and ego dismantled in front of a live audience... something which arguably made an even greater impact on the audience (both the audience in attendance at the event and those who might later watch the exchange on youtube) than Chomsky's words alone could have had. he was very consciously focused on getting to the heart of an important issue and to provoke a particular response from someone very well equipped to respond
Look up “internal family systems therapy” it’s got a default secular spiritual part that seems to be a corner of human experience, but doing self ifs def I would say makes the soul
been out of work since the banks went under, suffered bad blues for a while, went from a government job to watching day time TV , Chomsky saved my sanity in a way...
bill kingston try your own food/garden, take care of an animal, that is how MAN creates his soul, the system is the free Masonic world of the dead, and only enables the mental/intellectual mind to develop, but their no soul, no heart that inspires the living man to LIVE, he comes a HUman, a type of man...
Deep down I don't think Grand has a God damn clue what he's talking about. Sitting at home by yourself watching a show or movie is extremely lonely and depressing. The thing that makes it truly rewarding is sharing that time with people you care about and/or discussions about it with others afterwards.
Is this supposed to be some sort of profound question or bit of pondering because it definitely isn't. You wouldn't even know how to begin to answer something this stupid and inane. Other than to say, you know, we live in a rich society, full of technology and we don't have to work hard to survive. And theoretically it's possible to be a member of the idle, leisure class though most people aren't, so I guess a tiny few people live that way and so there's some precedent for it. And since your sorry ass job does kind of suck maybe you prefer the laziness of your weekends off. Other than that, no, there's no innate human desire to be lazy and idle and bask in 'material comfort'. Simple as that. Conversation over. Oh, and kids no longer are required by either tradition or necessity to have to do any sort of real work, and of course they're still kids or very young adults so naturally they'd rather just hang out and be lazy because that's really all they know. So that's why they don't go to the library. Even though going to the mall still counts as being out and about. But none of this is deep-seated, it's merely habitual and circumstantial.
I know many ex-eastern block citizens and according to some of them one of the favorite ways of spending a Sunday afternoon for young girls was to dress up and go to a museum and maybe meet some guys there.
That’s what I was thinking, they don’t go to the mall cuz they must spend, they don’t go to the museum because they study antiquities; they go to these places because that’s where their peers are, by societal design, perhaps.
Genuinely! I'm in my 20s and have had to delete my socials because not only do I get bombarded with ads but when I check out what my friends are doing, all they post about are things they want/have, so it's endless ads being forced down your throat! It's almost parody how much the need for commodity comfort is pushed down our throats these days !
Mr Chomsky is so right!! I worked in the advertising industry as a consumer behaviour insights analyst & media strategist - just the fact that these "job titles" exist and that the marketing machine is FULL of research, researchers, analysts & strategists that earn HIGH salaries (much higher than a teacher, nurse, policeman, soldier, miner, factory worker, construction worker.....) speaks VOLUMES. My job was specifically to take research statistics and find out what people buy, what they desire, how & where they live (type & size of home, appliances, etc), their attitudes & desires, how & what time of day they travel, specific magazines, TV stations, websites, time of day, how long they spend commuting, purchase behaviours & patterns, ... to statistically define exactly when & where & how impactfully advertiser's can target consumers (us y'all) and are likely to be most receptive to the advertised message. Then it was specifically to analyse the media options, cost out the correct 'weight' of campaign to deliver a given level of sales/profits to a marketer and negotiate the price of that campaign down to the lowest level. And post analyse it all against success measures. When you see court cases like Zuckerberg and the personal data fiasco and them asking him to change his business model so as to NOT use personal data .....🫣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's laughable that people as educated and senior as senators have ZERO idea that Google was set up precisely TO derive sellable personal data; so very unaware of the MASSIVE media machine - set up specifically to 'sell' demographic & behavioural data to marketers. Further, these media houses find themselves in powerful situations where they ARE the news. They ARE the conduit to educate & inform people. So they are intimately entwined in the CREATION of the government's & political entities'/individual's social, racial & political agendas. Never before in the history of humankind have humans handed over their 'rights' as an individual free thinker to be manipulated (and frequently consciously manipulated) by the media machine funded & manipulated by powerful companies and entities of 'rule' in our various countries. Beware of things like Zuckerberg's Metaverse. Beware of 'computer chips' (read 'powerful AI) under the skin to increase convenience in your life. You would be 'dead from the neck up' to think this is positive progress. It is now outright marketed personal control of every aspect of your life, including disruption of your neuro network, thought processes and individuality (common access to the Cloud - an artificial reality AR and AI dominated 'space') via marketing the first generation of these technologies as if they are a fun computer game that can interact with your real life - like access to bank accounts, purchasing & management of credit. Eventually, a future 'generation' of Metaverse & AI chips can literally override your independent thought process by messing with the way we collectively experience 'reality' and people who resist or 'deviate' in the desired effect the powerful agents desire (government programme) can literally 'switch you of', deny you access to your bank accounts, deactivate your cards, in the blink of an eye, en masse if they so wished. If you think this is crazy talk, take a clear sighted look around you. It is in place and has been building to this point for a couple of decades.
its real and gross and sneaky af. I wanted to make a comment similar to the second half of yours and then didn't bother knowing that to the majority of people i just sound like a crazy person
Anyone interested in what Chomsky is saying towards the end of the clip about "informed consumers making rational choices" - in economics this idea is tightly linked to the concept of asymmetric information, which undermines the effective functioning of free markets and in effect constitutes market failure which means that free markets seize to be effective (and which in theory could justify government intervention). Anyone interested in this, go ahead and study it at uni, we need more people doing research in this field.
I have always hated reading, and school for that matter. However, I find myself watching Chomsky (who has a monotone voice) and lots of political videos for hours. I guess it's because I am actually interested in this and not what I'm learning in school.
I think most human beings just don't want to be forced to learn something... I didn't care about the last 4 years of school at ALL, barely made it through.. and found myself learning pretty much everything taught in school and a lot more in the 2 years after in my free time, suddenly getting interested in things I had never imagined...
Cool---and with all respect, give reading (the good old stuff) another chance. I too had it ruined for me by schools and idiots, but it's like lifting mental weights that very few others take good muscle from...
you can die of hunger if you prefer. or you can go into crime. or you can pretend to have some illness of some kind and you get money from people who are working.
Sergio or if the system didn’t kill off all the native Americans and steal the land, we all could grow our own food and be fully responsible for ourselves... why is it so impossible for anyone to think of life outside of the system without money?
"I've had the best possible chance of learning that what the working-classes really need is to be allowed some part in the direction of public affairs, Doctor-to develop their abilities, their understanding and their self-respect." - Henrik Ibsen, An Enemy of the People, English adaptation by Max Faber (1970), act II, p. 28. Mr. Hovstad is speaking
Chomsky is so clear-eyed. When he dreams, instead of imagining things, he probably sifts through his mindbase of facts from the hundreds of thousands of books he's read.
Oh, yeah! Billions of trillions super smart books of pure wisdom and knowledge... That's our dear leader! He should not be questioned simply because he is never wrong.
Never thought I’d see the guy who said “Inconceivable!” in The Princess Bride sitting across from Noam Chomsky and asking him a complex philosophical question. But here we are
Chomsky's description/explanation of the human nature was so heart-warming. I guess such realizations is what has given him strength for all these years to carry out his tireless war against the neoliberal agenda. We should all be grateful for having a guide like Chomsky!
Thanks to youtube for allowing me to work in the kitchen and simultaniousely listen to those enlightening interviews with the wise men of the world!! love Noam Chimsky!and many others!!love youtube for that opportunity!
At 10:40 he hits it on the head about TV ads, and immediately thought of the recent "beefing Up" of the Super Bowl commercials. I see currently Geicho is having commercials about their top commercials. It's one of the things I like about UA-cam in that you can speed through the ad barrages. For now.
Chomsky is a person you want to turn the volume up just to make sure you heard every word. Even though there are some outside the norm of what he's saying right now, the point is that Chomsky is amazing.
I haven't watched a TV ad in years, and these days I barely watch TV at all, just some sports, and I record those events so I can skip the ads. The older I get, the more I hate advertising altogether. I can just sense intuitively how it's an attempt at f---ing up my brain to get me to buy something I don't need. Very unhealthy.
but much of the propagandizing is contained within the CONTENT of the programming, itself (consider the term, "programming", for openers.) What MESSAGES were being communicated in shows like "Leave it to Beaver" or "Father Knows Best"? Teo easy examples where subtlety wasn't the strong suit. But as mass manipulation has become far more subtle & sophisticated, we are more readily sucked in - BEFORE we've watched a single commercial. BEWARE...commercial Radio & Television (along with religion) and now the internet, are marvelous methods of manipulation and crowd control.
@@Laid2Sleep Exactly. Most advertising today isn't just within commercial blocks. Most content today is filled with product placement. Snoopies, just pay attention to what people talk about, what is shown. You can't fully escape it. There's a reason the NBA finals play 6 games. Money & power is behind every media decision.
Yes, when it was founded the Republican Party was a radical party. There was a plank in the party's platform against the hourly wage, an early nineteenth century innovation. The hourly wage was strongly opposed and objected to by many as it was increasingly employed, and the term "wage slave" came to be used tto deride its implementation and its implications
I’ve only recently discovered Noam Chomsky and have been watching a lot of his videos. I also am going to be reading his books. Manufacturing consent actually should be coming in the mail today and I’m super fucking excited to read it. But I remember saying exactly what Noam said about the human nature being to desire a sense of purpose and self-worth and dignity yesterday. I’d never heard anyone say that before, I kind of just came to that on my own. So I fully agree with what he says there.
Noam Chomsky nails it; I always wanted to simply accomplish creative constructive things, and that this is my natural state of mind. Social forces are what separate me from this most of all
All of these comments are thought provoking and pointed to Chomsky’s analysis..... and I’m just here like .. .. Why is Rex from Toy Story interviewing him
Just getting acquainted with Chomsky, me a 34 y-o. Today, he's giving me the incredible gift of Permission to be Creative, to spend my time on things that bring me real deep human satisfaction. Today I see my instagram addiction clearly, my stress about career stuff dissolve away a little bit - and whats left are a couple of hours home to work on my art.
@@peaceworld2875 When asked, about ~70% of people say they want free healthcare,free education, free welfare....that's Socialism,right? So 70% of the population aren't greedy, copulating female genitals.Socialism is an abstract concept.Social conscience, on the other hand, may be practical. You either have one or you don't.
@@ceeemm1901 I want to live in a society which values education, good health (physical and mental), and basic housing as a human right of existence in a society. When I think of Freedom, I think of the freedom to get an education and healthcare without going bankrupt. I think of the freedom to not have to worry about having access to clean water. FREEdom. I mean, money is only valuable if you can invest it in your fellow human beings because ultimately, those people ARE your society. If that makes me a socialist, than call me a proud socialist.
When we follow guys like Chomsky, most Americans think that we are not pro America. Guys we are Americans and deep inside we all care for our country and support it. Critical thinking and msking informed choices are only tools to propel our society to further development.
I spend my days working at an office, it's secure, it's comfortable, and it's easy. It also makes me miserable. And when it's the weekend and I don't "do something" I hate myself even more. I crave for a sense of accomplishment , a sense of meaning, and a sense of impact.
Look into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Fight for the revolution comrade, capitalism is causing unimaginable amounts of pain, but we have been tricked by those who benefit from it, into thinking that the solution is worse. It is not. Abolishing private property is the solution. That's how we end consumerism, that's how we end poverty, wars, the modern slavery of wage labor, and our only hope to develop a society that is sustainable socially, economically, and ecologically.
I used to think it was a stupid idea until I actually started looking into it. There has been so much propaganda against it. The ruling class doesn't want to loose their power, they can't allow socialism to exist because it threathens their existence as rulers.
I'm bad at motivating people, I probably sound like a cult reader right now, but I'm only asking you to investigate the subject. Educate yourself. Learn the principles of communism/socialism. Learn about Karl Marx, and his analysis of capitalism. It explains in great details the contradictions of this system, and how it will fail. Every single one of his predictions are terrifyingly accurate.
There has been problems with previous attempts at socialism, but these problems have been greatly exagerated, their acomplishement are never talked about, and the reason that is often brought up for their flaws (communism itself) has most of the time not much to do with communism. The millions of deaths and the immense suffering caused by capitalism meanwhile, is mostly ignored, or normalized.
But don't listen to me, keep an open mind and go search for yourself, this is where you will find a sense of meaning, something pure and worth fighting for in this fucked up world
You should consider getting a job in the arts (even an office job, if you're nervous to stray too far from that - in a live theater, you will still be making an impact, because you'd be helping a team of people bring the arts to people in your city); in a theater, museum, concert hall, etc., learn a craft; carpentry/woodworking, baking, cooking, metalworking, etc., learn something artistic; acting, dance, painting, singing, etc. or become a teacher of something you're passionate about, either to kids or adults.
There are also jobs that are very useful and needed in society that are not the arts, like being a firefighter, working in a hospital, working in local government, etc. I think you probably lean toward having an interest in one of the things I mentioned and can explore one as a hobby, volunteer, intern or part time position on weekends at a hospital or interning at a theater, or working on a local political campaign, taking classes in something artistic you're curious about trying, etc. see if you might want to do something similar more full time.
Think of your boring weekends as two days to take acting classes or volunteer at a hospital or work on a campaign or teach something or make something. Trying things and getting into something is often what leads people to develop a passion of they didn't previously have one.
I have faith that you will find your passion and your calling in this life. Good luck! Don't give up! You can really do almost anything. Just try different things if you're not sure what you're into and your passion will develop and lead the way.
Normative conformity is dangerous.
Good for you that you can at least see this and realize it. You will change it. The title is bad but I recommend: “Think and grow rich” by Napoleon Hill. Anything worth doing is worth doing to perfection.
The nervous laughter from the crowd as they slowly realize he is describing their families...
Or themselves.
Lol true that
I literally have to pay UA-cam so i don't have to watch Ads. Its ridiculous
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You can avoid ads for free by not watching UA-cam. I've come to realize that UA-cam is a poisonous addiction.
@@native307 I use free ad-blocker. No ads, no pay. Seems to work.
"Uninformed consumers making irrational choices." Good stuff.
Jonathan Taylor nailed it.
Sadly, most people would rather keep up with the Kardashians than study machine learning
@@sharptongue2972 Dem girls are machines!
Marihuana is not Hemp.
But who is to say what is a irrational choice or not ? If you proclaim to be rational and to know what is and what isn´t a rational choice concerning consumption then you are rather smug and believe your superior.
"Want to be Independent, creative, do something significant, worthwhile, and with dignity"
Lucky me; I grew up loving riding my bike up to the library. Books at the library opened up different worlds! Library's are wonderful.
The library was like a temple to young me.
nerd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
25 years ago I threw my television out the window, literally - don't worry, it was on the first floor - and never looked back. For me, that day was the first day of true liberation.
@@509Gman Indeed.
I want someone to love , something to do and something to look forward to .... basic human here
I want everyone to take responsibility for themselves as much as possible.
I want humans to quit reproducing. Towards and end to suffering.
💯
I want balance between humanity and earth.
'I want' never gets
We should implement more Chomsky into our society, he really points out things that matter
emeritus slave I am sure that is not what he was referring.
he is Human and all the rest is not so important. But yes, I know the difference about what you mentioned. In general, I divide people by good and bad and not by religion, skin colour, etc. so by his words I put him in a basket of people of good will
Here here!
It's, " Hear Hear", you uneducated ignoramus.
Jackknifegyp Thanks for the correction. Is the name-calling necessary?
It's true people aren't just selfish. People want to have dignity and some kind of meaning
dappernaut, yes but the leaders of our country are sef-interested
WHICH people aren't 'just selfish'? Who doesn't want to be selfish at times and dignified (whatever that means) at other times? But there is a lot of money in promoting selfishness, and not much money in promoting 'making do with less'.
No, people are in fact just selfish. Every single decision you make is based on some aspect of selfishness, whether it be for gratification or avoiding negative emotion.
DoJo Starfox i had a talk with a friend who also has a similar perspective, I'm not sure if avoiding negative emotion can be looked at as selfish, is wanting to be happy selfish or would wanting to be happy at the expense of others selfish, i thought there was a difference there. I don't think both should be looked at as selfish as it has a more negative connotation.
yes..Diabolical Narcissists..Barnhardt did a Good Video on that
Me: Ik what I want!!
Chomsky: *You fool, you fell for one of the most classic blunders*
That was the joke
+1
It is so unbelievably impressive that I've consumed so much of this man's work but almost never hear him repeat himself. An inspiration
Definitely unique - alas !
It is, just be sure to properly critic his work and look for flaws on it as much as you can. Else you will find yourself with a new dogma and nothing much learned. For instance the suggestion than the rich purposely engineer the life of the poor without immersing themselves into it is ludicrous. Isn't it possible that the "poor", the majority have an equal pull over them by determining what is popular and what is not. Look at the entertainment industry right now. It is obvious that they cant push whatever they want and make it be culture defining. Isn't also the consumer the ultimate arbiter of what culture becomes? Aren't also huge corporation dancing to the whim of the average consumer wants? I see blockbuster films losing millions left and right, because they push politics, or just doesn't have "it". I think this ideas are a good point to start, but a far cry of a true representation of reality. That is simply too complex for ape minds to fully grasp. But that wont stop us for trying. Closer to truth even a few steps is better than farther isn't it? To what I say: Maybe.
@@klaussone You're pretty much describing Dialectical Materialism. The concept that the material (money put forth in advertisment) shapes the culture (what people like), and then that culture shapes how future advertisiment money is allocated.
@@sudovirus3285 Its one of many possibilities. Consider that one doesn't have all the factors to properly evaluate every situation, leave only the sensible assumption that other similarly plausible possibilities are also likely as long as they really are plausible.
So you’ve never heard his lectures on syntactic structures
I feel awful that our creativity and potential has been intentionally targeted to fail. I have this mantra that I say everyday: I want not to need and need not to want. This is helping me find out who I am truly, without influence.
But you shouldn't be surprised. There is no exception in history, where the "ruling class", which translates better to those people who have the capacity to use force/violence in ways that will maintain their existing power and expand it where possible. So many people are forced to struggle alone, with what you pointed out: identity. Who am I? And this is a humane question, meaning institutions should be put in place to help you develop "yourself". But, we obviously don't have that. We have abominations like "school", "church", and the like
There is no truly you, it's a void, it's the search of consciousnesses itself.
Also impossible without influences, humans are social animals, we create ourselves through others (how you learn language, logic, to walk, etc). You do not exist in a vacuum.
But you won't learn this from Chomsky.
is disappointing our wants have been manufactured ... we would like believe that we are making choices of our own volition regarding our purchases and lifestyles... when in fact everyone of them is marketed to us from snobby wine taster to communal hippie. resistance is futile...
@Renkinjutsushi Yes, much of what we are as individuals is a social construct - we are what we are in relation to others and our social environment. But although Chomsky may not be not explicit about the social construct of self, I see that concept as implicit in many of his arguments. E.g. considering 'dignity' as a human need.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me! What the fuck is wrong with you?
wow..guy's almost 90 yrs old and sharper than I'll ever be .. smh...great man
Chris Parke and he will live more i think, jews die older than other races/ethnical groups, for exemple the Kahn family in NY.
I have not tried Cocaine, but yes, he is energy replenishing.
He just radiates wisdom
@@DrDress He's a political dope. Chomsky does a bad job of understanding Realpolitik. He does an even worse job of understanding the fundamental difference between trying to kill civilians and accidentally killing civilians in pursuit of those who are trying to kill other civilians . Despite his claims otherwise, he's more or less the last survivor of a group of intellectuals who thought systemic political violence and totalitarian control were essentially good things. He babbles about human rights all the time, but when you look at the regimes and groups he's supported or is neutral on in criticism, it’s a very bloody list indeed.
Chomsky allows people to feel justified in their refusal to think. They never have to ask themselves any difficult questions or provide any difficult answers. It’s a forum of heavy stats, bias, and intellectual cowardice. Sure, America has meddled, and mucked things up. We have a lot of power, and we've done some stupid things in hindsight. But is America the infinite evil of the world that calls for the annihilation of entire peoples? No. And we have the power to do that on any given day. Would you trust Muslim countries, Russia, or N Korea to behave? No. They would be worse. All countries are selfish and this is not to excuse America but it’s knee-jerk haters are not on mark.
It's OK to call a bad game when you see it. But his entire rhetoric is basically anti America and that incites the nuts in the world. If we are the bad guys, then i guess he wants us to hand over the reigns of control to the other worst guys? I want our bastards in power. We would have taken over Mexico and Canada if we were Russia. The US is not that nice but there are much worse places.
If Chomsky mentioned that the US had decent intentions on some occasions and at the same time selfish intentions, as all countries do, he might even find a larger audience and I would find the guy to be tolerable. I look at social and political outcomes (casually not professionally) and he is off the charts as far as reaching the average US citizen. But more importantly he might be contributing to agitating and unhinging an already unhinged angry group of people.
If the US vanishes, who replaces us? Russia, China, Iran, N Korea?
@@abegohr2576 Nonsense. There are no human races anymore apart from all of us. There is tiny genetical difference between people from different regions adapting to there living conditions the last 2000 - 6000 years. Which is not even a second for evolution.
so your statement is based on a completely false asumption.
Reaching an old age can be influenced by genetic factors, mattering on if your family has a history of hereditary disease.
Other than that the most important factors for reaching an old age are:
- a healthy diet
- an active life, sport, but not to much or extreme
- healthy social relations.
There might be other factors for sure, but these are the essentials.
Another reason I'm a fan of Noam Chomsky.
He understands most people want to feel useful. They want to work, and feel the dignity that comes from providing for yourself.
And people like that deserve to be paid enough to afford a decent lifestyle.
Thats just pride and vanity speaking
Noam always lets me know just how severely brainwashed I really am. It's sad.
@Frog King Yeah too bad you're not eloquent nor intelligent bruh. I'll take Noam's word over yours any fucking day LMAO.
I think he untangles the knots, but I see you mean
Noam Chomsky is most intelligent American i know. We need more people like him in the world.
You're pretty
@@ryublueblanka you're pretty
You know him, know him?
I wish I knew him and the pretty Korean lady
And yet he's never changed a lightbulb. Odd eh?
This was in my recommended. Inconceivable
I'm amazed that Wallace Shawn asked such an interesting philosophical question phrased in a relatable way. And even more impressed that Noam Chomsky STILL had an analysis to give back that was historically rich and even personable.
Yeah, he caught me out for a moment
Never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
I know I’m super late to these comments but Wallace Shawn made a whole movie about having engaging conversations like this called dinner with Andre and it’s pretty much this.
Noam Chomsky really does speak in lower-case.
Just curious, Tried to find the meaning of it. What do you mean by 'speaking in lower-case'?
💯 truth
Yes, but what he says is definitively in upper-case
@@HAMISHEASTONMACKAYDAWSON I guess because he speaks very soft and quiet. Upper-case letters usually indicate loud talking or even screaming.
@@brainchild2197 Ah, thanks. That makes sense - not shouty but soft and quiet.
Sometimes i find Chomsky a little depressing when he runs through the list of awful things our free democratic countries have been up to. I like this interview because he gives you the opportunity to question yourself, what you do and why... I'm in my mid 50s and when we sit round the table at a cafe, we're all trying to remember, a name or something? Chomsky must be pushing 90 and he's sharp as a needle.... How many books has he written? more than a hundred?
@Mike Girard Have you found that having a supercilious attitude towards those you're trying to help has resulted in the advancement of the cause or a greater promotion of the radicals you prefer?
Sometimes it's VERY hard to look in the mirror.
he is sharp as a tack i do concur
Then again, he does this for a living. You’re probably very sharp at what you do still! It’s all about training that part of the brain. I find Chomsky more validating than depressing. I am often very critical about the world around me and it depresses me too, so knowing I am not alone in my view of the world and in wanting to change it makes me feel better
@@saal0 "wanting to change it" it's not going to change. Power exists and propaganda works. I'm just glad I'm about half done with this shit.
"want to fix old cars in their garage in the weekends" >> that's me 100%. Having a hobby makes life so much more enjoyable.
Good for you man, you can afford time to have a hobby
People never take into account the system we live under ,or rather endure, when talking about the human condition .
This is the most frustrating thing of all.
Human behavior is a function of the society they are raised within. This is proclaimed backwardly ALL THE TIME but it's never true.
there are aspects of the human condition which are universal. when talking about human condition, you don't talk about the system because otherwise, you'd be talking about the system and not the human condition
Its the best we have TODAY. Could improve. We 'll see.
You can blame classical liberal philosophy for that one. Its unproven fundamental principles are just accepted by people, regardless of their political persuasion. What passes as a rational position in western society is just another, relatively new, ideology.
Fantastic! Dr. Chomsky is a blessing to humanity! Thank you for sharing this interview.
This guy is a breath of fresh air in these absurd times.
Wallace Shawn is so good here. Says the right things to provoke this great response from Chomsky and then just let's him talk. It made me think about how little of My Dinner With Andre is Wallace talking and made me wish that he had had interview series
This explains a lot of why so many people are depressed today. They don't think they can express how they feel through actions.
When a gem pops up on youtube when you really need it
I will occasionally find myself getting obsessively wrapped up in a video game, and while I enjoy it, I do have to recognize and remind myself that it's the false sense of accomplishment that I find most satisfying.
is it false though?
@@alfonsomartineztorres5749 how is it not false? it's happening in your head.. nobody else in the real world gives a shit about your "achievement" pixels.. and most likely the game won't matter to you in a few days/weeks/months/years from now.. time you could have invested in a career.. you literally waste sitting down looking at a painting..
@@ginofoogle6944 maybe
@@ginofoogle6944 Well I guess that is what happiness is, its subjective and we still dont understand this concept of qualia. I dont think its fair to dismiss a video game just coz of a career, At the end of the day the whole point of many careers is to make money and you make money to have more freedom, The video game represents various human needs the need for fantasy, escapism, adventure, achievement and getting away from the mundane world just as with movies and amusement parks. But of course the enlightened individual knows that all these "pleasures" have diminsihing returns and they dont give off everlasting happiness. All pleasures get boring eventually.
video games are not only a waste of time keeping you from growing and learnng. they distract and undermine you from the start. they exploit human weakness like ciggies, booze or crack.
"Get your parents to get this thing for you or you're gonna die, then they get it and you throw it away after 5 minutes."
My brother had so many events like this. I can't count the number of special items my parents had to chase down, the last weird trending toy in stock, and how it became forgotten in the closet in a few weeks, the happiness it bought him lasting less time than the misery spent pleading for it.
I'm glad I grew up poor and I was the older child who had to suck it up and deal with having less. It made me not give a crap about material trends and instead value a few material things more (because they enable my creativity or passionate interests) and value them in a way that isn't tied to my self esteem.
I got lucky I guess. Nothing special about me to make me that way, just deprived I suppose in the right proportions.
Perhaps you agree that deprivation is relative to what people around you have. But you seem to have had the gift of avoiding envy and the desire to consume. I wish you well, and hope this gift becomes more general.
"Deprived in the right proportions" I really like that! My parents were children of the depression and taught me and my siblings the joy of living a life that was simple, but filled with intellectual curiosity.
Christopher Bradley
"......And yet for aught I see, they are as sick that surfeit with too much as they that starve with nothing. It is no mean happiness, therefore, to be seated in the mean. Superfluity comes sooner by white hairs, but competency lives longer." Shakespeare - The Merchant of Venice.
Fuck. I was like your brother. My family was thoroughly middle class and would buy me every toy I demanded. We even had a whole extra room called "The Toy Room" full of toys and coloring books and the likes that I simply never--or rarely--played with. It was actually kind of cool in a way because I had my own personal forest of "stuff" to go and discover. Who knows what I would or could find in there. But really I was just hording toys.
I've come to reflect on and question my decadence as a child. It didn't make me a better person. It made me entitled and spoiled. I kind of live below my potential by a lot. I suppose that led me to middle-class anti-capitalism and Chomsky though because people would guilt me for how "good" I had it and I thought "well, maybe this wouldn't happen if everyone had what I have. Why can't everyone have it as good as I do?" I probably wouldn't have gotten here if I wasn't so materially spoiled. But I don't think it's worth it. I played my family and "won", just as the advertisers intended.
If you never felt hunger, you will never be able to enjoy the full flavor of food.
I thinks it’s inconceivable that we are expected to survive this and get back to an age of self worth.
I see what you did there... (:
I don't think that means what you think it means...
Kymatic N O
planck10-43 ...inconceivable!!
Truly you have a dizzying intellect.
Professor Chomsky is so refreshing! I almost completely agreed with the host’s opening statement until Chomsky began to speak. We all need to remember we all are intellectual, productive beings. Hugh efforts are being made every second of our lives to take our mind away from the important matters
As soon as you hear his voice, you thought the word "Inconceivable!"
looks like it too
Wallace Shawn is a great artist. Not afraid to challenge himself.
That's the first thing I thought before he even opened his mouth.
"Stop that rhyming and I mean it"
Mind-Forged Manacles
inconceivable is in your own head.
This is a REAL intellectual discussion because I genuinely see both points of view, since both were so clearly and eloquently presented. Most of the time, I'm rolling my eyes at one side or another. It's refreshing when both participants are interested in *listening* to one another. So rare.
let's not forget that based on the evidence and arguments presented, one of these views was rendered illegitimate - to the point maybe of not being considered "intellectual" at all. i wonder if the person asking the question did not exactly believe what he himself purported to believe... but instead was pretending ("acting" one might say) to have his own philosophical foundations and ego dismantled in front of a live audience... something which arguably made an even greater impact on the audience (both the audience in attendance at the event and those who might later watch the exchange on youtube) than Chomsky's words alone could have had. he was very consciously focused on getting to the heart of an important issue and to provoke a particular response from someone very well equipped to respond
@@calldwnthesky6495 great abstract i thank you kindly
I managed to watch this entire video without a UA-cam ad!
Reminds me of Month Python “the meaning of life quote”
“A soul is created through self reflection”
Look up “internal family systems therapy” it’s got a default secular spiritual part that seems to be a corner of human experience, but doing self ifs def I would say makes the soul
been out of work since the banks went under, suffered bad blues for a while, went from a government job to watching day time TV , Chomsky saved my sanity in a way...
bill kingston try your own food/garden, take care of an animal, that is how MAN creates his soul, the system is the free Masonic world of the dead, and only enables the mental/intellectual mind to develop, but their no soul, no heart that inspires the living man to LIVE, he comes a HUman, a type of man...
@@camerontaylor7471 Is it HUman to bring more sentient life to this existance of all kind of sufferings?
"Deep down what we all really want is material comfort for ourselves."
-- Grand Nagus Zek reciting the 56th rule of acquisition to Noam Chomsky, 2017
Deep down I don't think Grand has a God damn clue what he's talking about. Sitting at home by yourself watching a show or movie is extremely lonely and depressing. The thing that makes it truly rewarding is sharing that time with people you care about and/or discussions about it with others afterwards.
Is this supposed to be some sort of profound question or bit of pondering because it definitely isn't. You wouldn't even know how to begin to answer something this stupid and inane. Other than to say, you know, we live in a rich society, full of technology and we don't have to work hard to survive. And theoretically it's possible to be a member of the idle, leisure class though most people aren't, so I guess a tiny few people live that way and so there's some precedent for it. And since your sorry ass job does kind of suck maybe you prefer the laziness of your weekends off. Other than that, no, there's no innate human desire to be lazy and idle and bask in 'material comfort'. Simple as that. Conversation over. Oh, and kids no longer are required by either tradition or necessity to have to do any sort of real work, and of course they're still kids or very young adults so naturally they'd rather just hang out and be lazy because that's really all they know. So that's why they don't go to the library. Even though going to the mall still counts as being out and about. But none of this is deep-seated, it's merely habitual and circumstantial.
I know many ex-eastern block citizens and according to some of them one of the favorite ways of spending a Sunday afternoon for young girls was to dress up and go to a museum and maybe meet some guys there.
Sounds sublime.. for both sides
Whoa..nerds .
That’s what I was thinking, they don’t go to the mall cuz they must spend, they don’t go to the museum because they study antiquities; they go to these places because that’s where their peers are, by societal design, perhaps.
I come back to this video every few months and I learn something new or make a new connection everytime.
It's not natural. We've been addicted into this.
Genuinely! I'm in my 20s and have had to delete my socials because not only do I get bombarded with ads but when I check out what my friends are doing, all they post about are things they want/have, so it's endless ads being forced down your throat! It's almost parody how much the need for commodity comfort is pushed down our throats these days !
listening to this as i do some DIY work :) turning an abandoned fridge into a bookshelf
Fantastic!!!!
Mr Chomsky is so right!!
I worked in the advertising industry as a consumer behaviour insights analyst & media strategist - just the fact that these "job titles" exist and that the marketing machine is FULL of research, researchers, analysts & strategists that earn HIGH salaries (much higher than a teacher, nurse, policeman, soldier, miner, factory worker, construction worker.....) speaks VOLUMES.
My job was specifically to take research statistics and find out what people buy, what they desire, how & where they live (type & size of home, appliances, etc), their attitudes & desires, how & what time of day they travel, specific magazines, TV stations, websites, time of day, how long they spend commuting, purchase behaviours & patterns, ... to statistically define exactly when & where & how impactfully advertiser's can target consumers (us y'all) and are likely to be most receptive to the advertised message.
Then it was specifically to analyse the media options, cost out the correct 'weight' of campaign to deliver a given level of sales/profits to a marketer and negotiate the price of that campaign down to the lowest level. And post analyse it all against success measures.
When you see court cases like Zuckerberg and the personal data fiasco and them asking him to change his business model so as to NOT use personal data .....🫣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's laughable that people as educated and senior as senators have ZERO idea that Google was set up precisely TO derive sellable personal data; so very unaware of the MASSIVE media machine - set up specifically to 'sell' demographic & behavioural data to marketers.
Further, these media houses find themselves in powerful situations where they ARE the news. They ARE the conduit to educate & inform people. So they are intimately entwined in the CREATION of the government's & political entities'/individual's social, racial & political agendas.
Never before in the history of humankind have humans handed over their 'rights' as an individual free thinker to be manipulated (and frequently consciously manipulated) by the media machine funded & manipulated by powerful companies and entities of 'rule' in our various countries.
Beware of things like Zuckerberg's Metaverse. Beware of 'computer chips' (read 'powerful AI) under the skin to increase convenience in your life.
You would be 'dead from the neck up' to think this is positive progress. It is now outright marketed personal control of every aspect of your life, including disruption of your neuro network, thought processes and individuality (common access to the Cloud - an artificial reality AR and AI dominated 'space') via marketing the first generation of these technologies as if they are a fun computer game that can interact with your real life - like access to bank accounts, purchasing & management of credit.
Eventually, a future 'generation' of Metaverse & AI chips can literally override your independent thought process by messing with the way we collectively experience 'reality' and people who resist or 'deviate' in the desired effect the powerful agents desire (government programme) can literally 'switch you of', deny you access to your bank accounts, deactivate your cards, in the blink of an eye, en masse if they so wished.
If you think this is crazy talk, take a clear sighted look around you. It is in place and has been building to this point for a couple of decades.
its real and gross and sneaky af. I wanted to make a comment similar to the second half of yours and then didn't bother knowing that to the majority of people i just sound like a crazy person
This wonderful man is perhaps the last person who could ever offer me any hope or solace. I have none but he would be the one who could.
Don't put people on such high pedestals: they will fall from a very far distance. Ouch!
Boy, that "Content/Fill" analysis and the "News hole" comment! Brilliant.
Anyone interested in what Chomsky is saying towards the end of the clip about "informed consumers making rational choices" - in economics this idea is tightly linked to the concept of asymmetric information, which undermines the effective functioning of free markets and in effect constitutes market failure which means that free markets seize to be effective (and which in theory could justify government intervention). Anyone interested in this, go ahead and study it at uni, we need more people doing research in this field.
Very interesting, what you say. Can you point to some resources please ?
@@SayakKolay read Akerlof 1970
there is , / are no MARKETS. id10t
I rarely bookmark anything, but I find myself saving EVERY Chomsky lecture/interview I listen to.
Tbh
I have always hated reading, and school for that matter. However, I find myself watching Chomsky (who has a monotone voice) and lots of political videos for hours. I guess it's because I am actually interested in this and not what I'm learning in school.
But he's a university lecturer at MIT, so technically you do like school, you're just not focused in on what you want to be educated on yet
I think most human beings just don't want to be forced to learn something...
I didn't care about the last 4 years of school at ALL, barely made it through.. and found myself learning pretty much everything taught in school and a lot more in the 2 years after in my free time, suddenly getting interested in things I had never imagined...
Cool---and with all respect, give reading (the good old stuff) another chance. I too had it ruined for me by schools and idiots, but it's like lifting mental weights that very few others take good muscle from...
You should start reading again! Orwell's 1984 is an obvious place to start if you haven't read it already.
Na foreal
CASH cows, is all we are. Farmed to the max.
you can die of hunger if you prefer. or you can go into crime. or you can pretend to have some illness of some kind and you get money from people who are working.
Sergio or if the system didn’t kill off all the native Americans and steal the land, we all could grow our own food and be fully responsible for ourselves... why is it so impossible for anyone to think of life outside of the system without money?
@@camerontaylor7471 That is a pipe dream. He is not talking about what could have been. He is talking about the real possibilities.
I like that when the first man gave his view, he quietly listened without trying to prove him wrong, it's a hard skill to learn how to listen
Just stumbled on one of his videos few days ago for the first time. His analysis is amazing. I wish him good health in his aging
We need his clarity of mind as long as possible
" The production of too many useful things results in too many useless people. " Karl Marx
Nate Mikh
Young Eagle that's what gulag are for amirite comrade lol =D
I don't like marxism but he was actually right about this
Really stupid quote
Karl marx was a piece of shit who's ideology resulted in tens of millions of deaths
People unnaturally squashed into being something much smaller than they are. Welcome to earth.
"what you think you want may not be exactly what you truly want."
Só glad I found this man. It’s never too late.
"I've had the best possible chance of learning that what the working-classes really need is to be allowed some part in the direction of public affairs, Doctor-to develop their abilities, their understanding and their self-respect." - Henrik Ibsen, An Enemy of the People, English adaptation by Max Faber (1970), act II, p. 28. Mr. Hovstad is speaking
Two great men; great thinkers on one stage together.
As bukowski once said, "find the light, don't let them club you into dank submission".
Chomsky is so clear-eyed. When he dreams, instead of imagining things, he probably sifts through his mindbase of facts from the hundreds of thousands of books he's read.
Probably true ...
Court Jester Ashe I just love the guy.
Azhar Zaidi lol I'd usually not indulge like this but "just" implies you have no reason
Oh, yeah! Billions of trillions super smart books of pure wisdom and knowledge... That's our dear leader! He should not be questioned simply because he is never wrong.
Wow, you're an idiot. "I just love...." is an idiomatic expression.
This is one the greatest video snippet I've ever seen in my life!
Never thought I’d see the guy who said “Inconceivable!” in The Princess Bride sitting across from Noam Chomsky and asking him a complex philosophical question. But here we are
For all that we disagree,... this man is a national treasure.
Chomsky's description/explanation of the human nature was so heart-warming.
I guess such realizations is what has given him strength for all these years to carry out his tireless war against the neoliberal agenda.
We should all be grateful for having a guide like Chomsky!
I like to live uncomfortably and to think.
Thanks to youtube for allowing me to work in the kitchen and simultaniousely listen to those enlightening interviews with the wise men of the world!! love Noam Chimsky!and many others!!love youtube for that opportunity!
At 10:40 he hits it on the head about TV ads, and immediately thought of the recent "beefing Up" of the Super Bowl commercials. I see currently Geicho is having commercials about their top commercials. It's one of the things I like about UA-cam in that you can speed through the ad barrages. For now.
I couldn't agree any less with his opening remarks- what we really want is dissolution of boundaries to reveal a newfound aliveness integrated in love
hearing this and realising my entire life was a lie
Only you can change it. Find something greater than yourself and live it.
Chomsky is a person you want to turn the volume up just to make sure you heard every word. Even though there are some outside the norm of what he's saying right now, the point is that Chomsky is amazing.
"Content is the ad" that sums it all. The world needs more Noam ❤
My god this just hit the nail on the head. You want to know why everyone is depressed? Watch this video. It should
Be mandatory viewing.
Chomsky is irreplaceable. He makes the human spirit take flight and soar.
I haven't watched a TV ad in years, and these days I barely watch TV at all, just some sports, and I record those events so I can skip the ads. The older I get, the more I hate advertising altogether. I can just sense intuitively how it's an attempt at f---ing up my brain to get me to buy something I don't need. Very unhealthy.
I second that. 👍🏻
but much of the propagandizing is contained within the CONTENT of the programming, itself (consider the term, "programming", for openers.)
What MESSAGES were being communicated in shows like "Leave it to Beaver" or "Father Knows Best"? Teo easy examples where subtlety wasn't the strong suit.
But as mass manipulation has become far more subtle & sophisticated, we are more readily sucked in - BEFORE we've watched a single commercial.
BEWARE...commercial Radio & Television (along with religion) and now the internet, are marvelous methods of manipulation and crowd control.
Rick Frye yup, as expressed by Edward bernays in his book Propaganda
If you watch sports you’re definitely not better than anyone. And you definitely have a head filled with ads. Don’t be dense
@@Laid2Sleep Exactly. Most advertising today isn't just within commercial blocks. Most content today is filled with product placement. Snoopies, just pay attention to what people talk about, what is shown. You can't fully escape it. There's a reason the NBA finals play 6 games. Money & power is behind every media decision.
Gracias a la persona que subtituló en Español. De verdad lo amo.
8:50 Wage labor was slavery according Republican Party / Lincoln?
Yes, Lincoln, Plato, Aristote
Yes, when it was founded the Republican Party was a radical party. There was a plank in the party's platform against the hourly wage, an early nineteenth century innovation. The hourly wage was strongly opposed and objected to by many as it was increasingly employed, and the term "wage slave" came to be used tto deride its implementation and its implications
It was a mainstream, widely held belief back in the mid-19th century, not some piece of outlandish propaganda.
Props to the quesiton - it was put in a really relatable and accessible way, yet engages with very important and complex ideas
Absolutely love Wallace Shawn
Very interesting listen! I am intrigued......
I want to hear Noam Chomsky on EVERYTHING! I have millions of questions that i think only Chomsky can answer. Who here feels the same?
As of 2020 he is 91 years old. If you really want to ask him questions, you better make it happen soon.
Interested to know what questions you have. Just the first few most important ones would be enough--thanks!
Me carrying on with my life, buying stuff and thinking I am getting somewhere.
Then I stumble upon a Chomsky video.
I’ve only recently discovered Noam Chomsky and have been watching a lot of his videos. I also am going to be reading his books. Manufacturing consent actually should be coming in the mail today and I’m super fucking excited to read it. But I remember saying exactly what Noam said about the human nature being to desire a sense of purpose and self-worth and dignity yesterday. I’d never heard anyone say that before, I kind of just came to that on my own. So I fully agree with what he says there.
"Never go up against a Sicilian, when DEATH is on the line, ahahahaha!"
I love this guy
Vizzini: So your proposition is that I want to lead a meaningful existence? Inconceivable!
Personally, I've been developing an immunity to iocane for the past several years.
Thank you for letting us watch a Interested interview from two amazing people.
In 2019 we do not have to turn the TV on anymore.
If I had Chomsky's brain I'd throw mine away.
Use the brain that you have, you might be pleasantly surprised.
The challenge is opening people's eyes and improving their minds. Why condemn yourself (and others?) if you can be saved?
I LOVE NOAM CHOMSKY!!!❤️♥️💜💛
Professor Chomsky is an international treasure.
Love how sensible and humane he is.
Noam Chomsky nails it; I always wanted to simply accomplish creative constructive things, and that this is my natural state of mind. Social forces are what separate me from this most of all
Noam Chompsky vs the Gran Nagus himself. We all knew this day would come.
I like Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
Another brilliant analysis from one of the most insightful minds of our or any time.
Incontheivable!! Sorry, I couldn't resist. Loved this video.
The princesses bride man, it kinda makes me sad seeing him so aged. But at least he’s still here
The Grand Nagus "when in doubt, be ruthless".
All of these comments are thought provoking and pointed to Chomsky’s analysis..... and I’m just here like
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Why is Rex from Toy Story interviewing him
John Graves - From Princess Bride!
Because he was considered a premier interviewer before he became famous. See 'My Dinner with Andre'....
So that's who plays Rex!!!!
He was in a ton of popular roles, check out his IMDB www.imdb.com/name/nm0001728/?ref_=tt_cl_t5
Real smart comment, bro.
Just getting acquainted with Chomsky, me a 34 y-o. Today, he's giving me the incredible gift of Permission to be Creative, to spend my time on things that bring me real deep human satisfaction. Today I see my instagram addiction clearly, my stress about career stuff dissolve away a little bit - and whats left are a couple of hours home to work on my art.
Inconceivable - Classic Lovers Know
Shawn Wallace captured my heart as an activist-ish young adult with “My Dinner with Andre”. 💖✨💖
Wasn't that interviewer a science teacher in Clueless?
Yep thats him, Wallace Shawn. He also wrote an article in the Huff post about being a socialist. Pretty smart bloke, not your regular 2D actor
Inconceivable!!!
@@ceeemm1901 if he's a socialist, then he's not too smart of a bloke
@@peaceworld2875 When asked, about ~70% of people say they want free healthcare,free education, free welfare....that's Socialism,right? So 70% of the population aren't greedy, copulating female genitals.Socialism is an abstract concept.Social conscience, on the other hand, may be practical. You either have one or you don't.
@@ceeemm1901 I want to live in a society which values education, good health (physical and mental), and basic housing as a human right of existence in a society. When I think of Freedom, I think of the freedom to get an education and healthcare without going bankrupt. I think of the freedom to not have to worry about having access to clean water. FREEdom. I mean, money is only valuable if you can invest it in your fellow human beings because ultimately, those people ARE your society. If that makes me a socialist, than call me a proud socialist.
the irony when ads interrupt the video !!!!
Excellent, thank you, Professor!
When we follow guys like Chomsky, most Americans think that we are not pro America.
Guys we are Americans and deep inside we all care for our country and support it.
Critical thinking and msking informed choices are only tools to propel our society to further development.