Smith & Wesson Response
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In this video, Eric checks out the @SmithAndWessonInc Response 9mm Carbine. One unique feature of this rifle is the ability to swap the entire magwell over to accommodate Glock and, hopefully, other mags in the future.
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I am really happy to see you back and in better spirits. I have no idea what was going on but I am glad you are back man.
It’s always funny when people say, I don’t understand who this firearm is for because they hate PCC’s . Pistol, caliber, car beans are primarily for people who don’t want to diversify ammo which I completely understand.
If you’re the type of person likes to stockpile ammo but doesn’t want to break the bank. It’s much easier to invest in one caliber, then five or six different ones.
Valid point but i would still go least 3 different because one tool rarely is best possible in all situations.
My pick are 22lr very obvious reasons. 9mm for handgun and maybe pcc. And lastly either
223/556 for semi-auto AR or .308 for bolt gun. Depending where you live.
300 blk exist because you can literally make it from 308 and 556 casing. On top of being all around better than 9mm ballisticly. 9mm is pointless in a rifle platform these days
There is a recall on the response, if you own one, see if it's one of the recalled.
Edit: the FPC is awesome, accuracy, cost, etc...
I want one in 40 though
Yea prior to Feb 12 this year
Glad you are back brother 🤙🍻🐈
I know a lot of people like PCC’s. I am not one of them. A .22 is a cheaper plinker and a Ar-15 or Ar-10 platform is for everything else.
Amen, especially for the price point
Words of wisdom.
700 doll hairs for a plastic rifle in 9mm. That’s what the m&p goes for 🤭😂
Anyone else think eric it looking more like the south park gun store owner
Or somebody’s crazy uncle that always does something cool at a family gathering
Uncle Jimbo!? 😅
Best comment 🤣
I say embrace it. Jimbo it is.
I like his look, he looks cool. 😎
That was awesome!!!, hearing that suppressor, Thank you, for what you do!!!
I had an out of battery discharge in my S&W response. When I contacted S&W, they told me it was a known problem and there is a recall and that it needs to be sent in for repair.
make a video
Sent my response in under warranty, took a week to get back.
@@angtornetta What's the process? TIA
I have had Glock mag 9mm carbine feeding rounds into the back of the barrel, no feed ramp. It was randomly shoving the bullet down into the case and it shoved one far enough that the round did not fully chamber. it went off with a high pressure spike and was not fully chambered and blew out the bottom of the case. Because of jamming the bullet into the back of the barrel and shoving the bullet down into the case. NO feed ramp or inadequate feed ramp on a Glock mag 9mm AR is a serious problem.
New look, I’m digging it!
I was about to say, response to what? 😂
Exactly.
Click bait. It got me too lol.
Scared the shit outta me
Same. 😂
Yeah, I thought IV8888 wrote them a nasty letter or something
I’ve been living under a rock!
Still better than living in Iraq.
@schaind11 Iraq, Arok Irack Aroq, Araq, A rock.
Love to see U back! What’s up with those glasses?
Lucky Gunner did some testing on various pistol rounds through various barrel lengths, and most 9mm rounds, even +P, are starting to actually drag in a 16in barrel, causing them to be slower than they would be out of a 10 or 12 inch barrel.
Only 135gr and up. 124gr and down are all way faster out of a 16" barrel. Just FYI 😎👍
Love it.
Really diggin your pcc vids lately man. Im in the market for one.
The S&W response has a safety recall.
Can't wait to see what other mag options become available in the future
The P320 mag blocks are now out as well.
I like the other s&w pcc that breaks in half I just with they would offer the glock mag conversion and a model that doesn't break in half..
having options like this enhances the overall shooting experience and makes it easier to integrate with existing firearm collections.
I miss these range videos. Can you do long range tower shooting with old iron sight bolt action rifles again?
You can see the whole thing flexing and flopping around when firing lol.. Hell no
It's made so cheap and has a proprietary handguard so good luck swapping it out
And they want 700 beans for it on top of being a 700 bean plastic rifle, it’s in 9mm. Tats about as much as a tried an true m&p15. What was smith and Wesson thinking in this one? It’s The same price as their all metal rifle in a much better chambering
What are even talking about?! It is not flexing, that’s called recoil.
@@marcg.3830 Get your eyes checked
Have you ever seen any other gun in slow-motion? They all flex exactly like that. Especially the AKM barrel whips like a wet noodle. Ian McCollum even made a presentation on the topic, the video is at his channel.
Sorry but an ar thats made of polymer should be no where near 700 beans, especially in 9mm. That’s about as much as the vastly superior m&p15 haha
for the same price I would go with the all metal receiver Ruger Charger... or PC charger that sells for $600.
The slow-mo shows a lot of slap in the upper. I would rather have an aluminum than polymer. Still a great video by Eric. S&W missed the mark especially at the price point. My hot take…
I havent shot the response however i have shot almost every other blow back 9 down at the range. My hands down favorite is the ruger pcc. Its a big big girl but the weight really tames the recoil especially with a binary trigger.
Very cool!
Can you do a field strip video for some of these kinds of guns?
Love ur glasses where you get those?
See a lot of hesitation on the polymer construction, yet there's too many "plastic fantastic" pistol platforms (including mine!) to count when at multi-gun competitions. I'm definitely a fan of it taking multiple mag options, means even at its MSRP, it's still cheaper than buying a second PCC (I run M&P platform, wife is Glock for instance). Would love to hear additional feedback prior to potential purchase. Thanks!
I sure wish they would make a mag well for thG3. Id buy one. Don't really want to trade my taurus for a smith 2.0, but i may have to. Thanks for your video brother 🙏🕊🇺🇲🦅❤️
A lot of money for a plastic gun
I agree. I'm early into the video, but if this has last round bolt open feature I may jump on it. But if not, I may as well go PSA.
@@nbroachfulI just don’t get why you wouldn’t get the FPC over this besides the mag compatability
@AlexNV75 enlighten me man. I'm at work. I haven't spent a dime yet but it's easier to type this then it is to search for what you're talking about.
@@nbroachful just about a year ago S&W released a different 9mm carbine that folds sideways (like a twist on the sub2000) and it retails for about $600 but it only takes S&W mags. Therefore I don’t see why they would release a completely different 9mm pcc into an even more saturated market (ar-style 9mm) for a more expensive price tag 😂.
If I am going to buy a polymer 9mm carbine I would personally get the S&W FPC for $100 less and is more unique. I think IV has a few vids on it if u wanna check back through.
Edit: the FPC has bolt hold open btw
The plastic receiver is the only thing that bothers me.
I love S&W. And I like the Response platform. But it’s just too much plastic. I know it’s strong but it looks cheap and dinky. And at 700 is about 500 more than I believe it’s worth.
What is the downside to it being plastic? Asking bc I don't know. Thanks for any reply
I was ready with cash in hand the same week the recall came out 😅 I’m just waiting for my local stores to update their in store responses so that they are the ones that are repaired. I’m anxious to get one and still have the cash to buy but my store barely found out about the recall😢
They announced P320 magwell module, it's available now.
I really wish they would make a .40S&W version, since that's the caliber of pistol I carry and have a bunch of S&W M&P magazines for.
I love me some Witt Machine, they just don't get as much love as they should.
I appreciate the kind words about the suppressor
What suppressor was he using please?
On aguila's website it lists their 9mm 147gr at 1000fps. So I think aguila's 147s are "legitimate" subsonics too, they probably just assume most people know a standard velocity 147 is going to be subsonic. meanwhile Remington realizes they can get more money out of rubes if they write the word subsonic on their 147gr 9s....
Half the Barrel for a Pistol version!
Love 9mm carbs just for ammo affordability. Really wish their folding FPC had the ability to change mag models.
They recalled all of them made before mid February, just in case. I want one, but I'm gonna wait
There's no need to wait. They were already making fixed ones at the moment they announced the recall. Just look at the recall indicator bars on the bolt before buying. They are visible through the ejection port. See photos at the recall page.
Why would you want one of these 😂 🤦🏼♂️
If I get a PCC it's gonna be the Folding one, I wish they had it in 40sw.
And here I was thinking I’m the last person left on planet Earth who is wishing that someone would make a decent looking and affordable PCC in 40 S&W.
Ahhh yes....when freedome rains...
This man just feels...what we all feel sick and tired of being told....its all fine...give us your safety
Well yeah at close distance.
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PCCs are still goofy as hell
this looks pretty nice and im into it being polymer. but ive been pretty scared to buy another s&w after how poor the QC and (2x) warranty process went on my 642. i hear good things about their other products. is it just their revolvers that are so half-assed nowadays? i dont have any other s&w but people seem to think their striker pistols are reliable.
So true. Bought a S&W Performance Center 686 Plus in .357 magnum. Cylinder, hammer, and trigger locked up on first range trip. Problems straight out the gate! It's getting hung up on one of the seven chambers. Going back for repair. SAD.
No its everything they make. Some designs may be worse because they are unproven but QC is an issue with them across all platforms.
Been running M&P PC CORE first gen since it came out in multi-gun and pistol meets since it came out, zero issues with it (and I'm LAZY, rather be shooting guns than cleaning them!), even when totally gunked with powder. My local club is now doing 2 gun meets, since it's indoors, long guns must be PCCs. Kinda digging the ability to use multiple types of mags, so my current kit will run it as well as my wife's (she's on a Glock platform). Wasn't aware of the recall until this vid, but once that issue is fixed, this platform has a place in the lineup in my opinion--and still far cheaper than a Sig or Kriss platform.
should have went with scoprion evo mags. all 30 plus capacity and looks much better
Indeed. I'm actually considering making an adapter module for Scorp mags in Response. Just very busy with the Henry Homesteader work for now.
Yeah i dont know why people keep making ar with glock mags Scorp mags are so much better and look way better.@@zaitcev0
Eric? Whats a good 12 gauge training round for up to 20 yards with a solid grouping?
Where's my guy Chad??..
Does all polymer save a noticeable amount of total rifle weight over aluminum?
I haven't watched it yet. But is it a 9mm ar-15 style pistol caliber carbine that is direct blowback like a weapon made in ww1 instead of a modern operating system. I'm going to watch it I hope i'm wrong.
Thank you as always for the best content! But.... that all looks to green for March, you sure you didn't film all this back in September???? I may be a bit North of you but.... very suspicious. Also, complaints about polymer construction and a 700 dollar price tag seem to be the trend, im just happy for more options and a gun i can lift with my dainty keyboard fingers....
We've had an unusually warm 'winter' around the South. We broke 100 year records in Texas in February, where we had a string of days in the 90s. It's been 'green' here, too. 😁
Polymer though. :(
Heres my take on full size pccs.. they are cool and fun to shoot .. but if your gonna carry a rifle thats the same size and almost same weight as a full power rifle round why not just use a 556 ..i get it as a range toy but i cant see much practicality outisde of a rangetoy
IPSC pcc with a 9x19 is fun and affordable. So yes, it's a sports/range gun.
@maximilianmustermann5763 its more expensive than alot of 5.56 rifles still.. got my diamondback for 500$ and it's performed flawlessly but the ammo is more expensive so for that part I get it yea
Why’s the barrel like that and does it have a buffer tube?
What happened to Chad?
Does SMITH&WESSON let you keep the gun after the videos you done with it buddy.
I smell a meltdown video coming 😊 I hope
So it can take 50 rnd drum mag ...
I want a 5.7 pistol variant
literally no point in that instead of just getting something in 5.56
Insert a block,
takes a Glock.
Did you stop doing the content with Ava?
Oh yeah S&W has their own factory 9mm Carbine. It's only a matter of time that Glock will come out with a PCC and AR-15 & 10.
can ya do a review on the Ruger PC9 in the same stock type config?
I've never seen the point in having a full sized AR chambered in a pistol caliber. Kinda defeats the purpose if that's the case just go with a carbine, or an actual SMG.
Just as insight into the PCC in general, it's been an idea since the 1800s to have a rifle share the ammo of your carry pistol for practicality, even though it's a bit of compromise on available range. Though .357 Mag through a carbine isn't much of a downgrade all things considered, if you're limited to modern 9mm, you're really going to be engaging out to 150 yards effective anyway. I agree with your points though. Use the best tool for the job. 👍
9x19 pccs are fun and affordable for IPSC. Shooting competitions with .556 or god forbid .308 is super expensive. And you'll still get the training with a rifle.
No thank you. It's a polymer handguard that is proprietary so good luck on swapping it out . Held it a couple times and it just felt so cheap 😂
Kentucky exits the chat.
I have 2 Witt machine cans. The dirty 30 & the freakin 45. Both suck. They do not suppress anything. Total waste of money. Nothing but barrel weights.
🎧🤪🎙️🫶 Thank you so much for sharing 🙏 I wishing you a beautiful day to you and all your viewers. Much Love Thierry ❤️˘◡˘❤️
Why would anyone want a full 16 inch carbine in 9MM it recoils more, doesn’t have the ballistics to match.
Guess I’ve been living under a rock with my pc charger. Sorry
i took mine back to sportsmans wh due to the recall ,it sat there for six weeks and had not been shipped back so i went there top pick it up today so i could ship it back myself and they offered to cash me back for it so i took it, this recall only effects the ones made prior to feb. 2024 , when i took it to sportsmans i did not bring the two mags that came with it , OOPS, so now i will buy a new one that has had the upgrades witch was a newer bolt carrier group , a new and heavier buffer tube and a heavier buffer spring ect so now when i buy a new one i will have two extra mags , hehehe
why is the mag well so weirdly curvy
U can switch the mag well to glock or smith mags
I hate that they don’t make magazines for these that are Tailored to this carbine. It literally looks as dumb as all get out to have a skinny mag sticking out of a mag well that looks as if it doesn’t fit at all. It looks ridiculous. I get that they don’t want to offer a mag well that doesn’t take our regular M&P mags but….It looks so dumb. They could manufacture this firearm in a way where the mag well has a inner changeable mag well clip of sorts that can be changed out. They could have made it where the gun comes with three of those inner changeable mag well clips. The M&P, the Glock, and a A.R.-15 look alike as seen with the S&W Sport 22lr.
Dear S&W,
As soon as I hear polymer lower I loose interest.
Love, Dave
Where is Chad?
The PC carbine has 14 different mag adapters now from Ruger and other independant companies. Not to mention the track record and rolling changes
Yes, but Ruger PC can never take a Scorpion mag, and this just might. Watch this space.
S&W has been pretty crappy lately. I’ll pass on this. Hope they get their stuff together soon.
To late for this video. They are retrieving those back from the stores and owners because they may explode in your face.
It's not often that a gun comes out and is already outdated but here we are! Overpriced too!
What about AR57, which has a fragile magazine
$700 for a plastic gun...
First
$700 for a plastic gun that shoots 9mm. Come on man. For $400, I can get an all metal AR,in 5.56 with a 30 round mag.
Birth Control Glasses
Promo SM 💋
I wanted a S&W PCC that takes Glock mags. I guess this is S&W's... response? Tss, tss.
Pistol caliber carbines with full length barrels will never not be stupid. If I am going to have a full rifle setup, I at least want it to shoot something that isn't mediocre.
I'm on the fence. Could be a great range toy. But I get where you're coming from.
That’s why I sold mine for a 300blk setup. X2 the fps and foot lbs
Try and immigrate to other countries. Unless you meet a special need. They would let you. See Australia, Poland, Hungry, the Swiss etc
FX-9 all aluminum AR9 - roughly same price - way better
Thought this was a drama video after reading the title