AudioPilz memes aside, I think people need to remember that this isn't trying to compete with a Super 6 or break any ground at all. It's like when the Arturia Astrolab came out - people complained that it was a preset machine, but SO many musicians appreciate having a keyboard setup that doesn't include a laptop and interface to muck about with on stage. Sometimes a preset machine is all you need in a band setting. As a progression of its older counterpart, this doesn't immediately make me want to upgrade. But if my DS61 ever breaks, it's nice to know that there's a more modernised version of my workhorse that I can pick up. Great video as always!
The thing is, it does compete also with Roland itself. I don't understand why you would buy this over a Fantom-06, unless you are really tight on money.
@@mudi2000a exactly, this model will outsell the Fantom-06 because of its lower price and having all the bells and whistles your average stage performer wants, Fantom-06 is overkill
@@nahrky sure. I actually kind of like this machine, along with the “good multisampler in a box” shtick. The thing is, it is very much not a juno, despite being marketed with that name. I guess the frustration and jokes stem from this fact.
@@mudi2000aI own a MPC One Plus and wouldn't really need More than 8 MIDI channels or 7 if I'm not using the drums. You are right in that price will attract any perspective customers. I have internal plugins inside the MPC if I needed
I have no idea why Roland still hasn’t done a D50 expansion with Zencore. For a synth that’s so well remembered, it feels like Roland constantly ignores it. How “Digital Native Dance” isn’t a baked in preset on their ZenCore machines is mind boggling"
No doubt this keyboard is coming to a cover band near you. Synth nerds will talk trash because this is not groundbreaking, but it definitely fills a gap. There are very few sub $1000 workstation keyboards currently on the market. The Korg Kross is I think the only other, plus Roland hasn't updated this series in like 10 years. Overall I think it's functional, covers all the bases a player would need, and way cheaper than the cheapest Fantom.
If it had any name on it other than Juno, I don’t think it’d be getting that flak. That name has been assigned so much weight by the retro synth crowd that if Roland releases anything that isn’t a one oscillator per voice analog with a super-lush chorus, they riot.
I've had a DS76 previous generation for about 7 years, played nearly 300 shows in an 80s cover band with it and never heard a complaint from bar patrons or wedding party guests about the patches sounding thin or not analog enough. It replaced a Juno Stage I had. The DS76 weighs practically nothing, allows me to use batteries when in a spot without power, I can import my own samples for custom song patches, it has a Windows 10 compatible sample editor, a patch librarian, and you get the Axial (SRX) board sound sets AND ALL THE XV-5080 patches to use since the Juno DS engine is compatible with that generation of gear. We use the audio pads for show intro recordings or set break music. I've tried to gig with a Kronos, a MODX7, and a Krome 76, and they're all sold or at home in their gig bags (too heavy, screens or surface labels too hard to read, or too many distractions/bells/whistles) On average at $150 take home a show - I've pulled in about $45k gig income earned since mid 2016 with a $849 (at the time plus $150 for a Roland gig bag) board. I put it through a Radial D2 DI and it's good to go. If I was starting over or my present DS kicks the bucket I'd pick this up in a heartbeat to get access to Scene mode and tone category shortcuts.
Looks like a capable and relatively inexpensive synth for gigs. If damaged it should be easy to find a replacement at a big box music store in the next city on the tour. As someone alluded earlier, the audience doesn’t care that you aren’t playing the latest greatest $3000-4000 polysynth in a live band setting.
Great review thanks Loopop! Had my D7 2 days now and it perfectly fills my need for a stage keyboard with great easy to find presets to accompany my Akai Force. Added bonus of being able to play backing tracks while the Akai loads, and jam something up quick if needed. No extra audio leads needed either, running akai or decks through the Ext input.
What's with the names of Roland gear lately? Juno D is different synth from 2005. It still on Roland website BTW. It seems like Roland kinda forgot about their own synth?
The patch editor on this reminds me of the original Roland Fantom FA76, where each parameter and partial were laid out on a grid to be navigated by a dpad, a scroll wheel, and 8 buttons located under the screen (of which 4 could be used to select which partials you want to edit when holding shift and the 8th button is used to select things). Because of that screen it's actually really easy to make patches for it, and very quick as well.
That's the bit which interests me, navigating through the flow of a synth is the biggest set back for my creativity and I like to see the controls all laid out.
I just received my Juno D6 to replace my old Juno 61 which I've been using for the last four years along with my Roland RD2000. I bought this one because it much easier to use and is the perfect keyboard for gigging, complimenting our bands expansion of 80s/90s covers. For me, it's a must have on top of my RD2000.
Interesting. The Juno-D effectively replaces the DS line so that now their entry-level workstation is on Zen-Core too and they have 3 tiers on Zen-core - Juno-D, Fantom-0 and Fantom. Also, neither Korg's nor Yamaha's entry-level workstations utilize their flagship sound engines. This is a win in my opinion (but maybe I'll change my tune after I actually watch the video lol!), especially as it's effectively cheaper than the DS line was (well, not with a zen-core subscription it's not, but I'm sure that's the point).
Seeing the comments on videos of this synth makes me sad. Some of us just want something portable and playable, and with customization of the partials and an 8-track sequencer, it seems like a very useful tool for songwriting and sound design. I dunno, I’m thinking of selling the last few synths I have and getting this instead. Been wanting to consolidate anyways and this does all that I need, so I think Roland did good with this one
The arpeggiator in this isn't new by far. You are missing out if you like going DAWless to some extent and do not use a workstation keyboard for support, in my opinion. The Korg Kross is better in the MIDI and sequencing departments versus Roland Junos and Yamaha MX. The Kross can also double as a decent post effects processor, too. The nice arpeggiator in this Juno-D can transmit MIDI, but the sequencer cannot. They want you switching to MC-707, Fantom-0, FA, or JD-Xi for that.
@@rafaelcatarino8372 My Yamaha AN1x has a bunch of cool arp patterns. Other than that my Virus does as well and now the Juno D. That's all I can think of.
I have been using Zencore since 1987 with my D-50. It wasn't called Zencore then but it was still a mix of VA waves with PCM samples. I then saw it in my Fantom workstation and recognized it from my D-50 but with more PCM. This one is kind of a cut down Fantom or cut down MC-707 which doesn't allow the models to be loaded like the JUNO-X allows. It is all various flavors of 1987.
@@DigiphexA reissue of the D-50 would be DOA with the general public and a reissue with changes would upset the fanboys. Why should Roland bother? They want new customers, not dudes with a wall of synths that wax nostalgic of something the general public isn’t clamoring for. I mean Bad Gear is fun and all but Roland seems to be doing fine. If they copied themselves they’d be isht upon by fanboys like Behringer is.
Whoa, JV1080 and its descendants all the way to the current Zen-Core gear blow the D-50 engine out of the water and out of orbit with extreme prejudice. The D-50 is the prototype, yes, and an utterly garbage facsimile of Zen-Core or even the older "PCM engine" shared by JV1080 and its descendants. But you are free to stroke yourself to whatever absurd delusions float your boat, of course.
Incredibly, 30 years later Roland are still making synthesizers that sound the same as the wonderful JV 1080 from 1994, ok more connectivity, audio input, USB, blah blah, but again in the end they sound the same! Don't get me wrong, I don't want to seem like a hater, I think it's fine but nothing really revolutionary. Dear Loopop thank you for your wonderful review as always. PS give my regards to Slash!! hahaha :)
I’m trying to think of the last time I’ve heard something “revolutionary” in the synth world 🤔🤔🤔 That being said… I still know EXACTLY what you mean here lol :) cheers friend 🍻
@@chinossynthesizer705 😂 seriously though, it’s all been heard before. I haven’t heard anything in recent that has made me go “well that sounds new!” in terms of usable sounds. My opinion of course….
@@aloraliquid rmi synthesizer, Dk synergy, and seiko ds 250 are additive monsters from the 80s that are rare and were never heard before. Old 80s drum machines are good new music sucks lol the 90s were better. Additive synthesis can make usable sounds it's the player who's the one that can't use it.
Hey - thanks for dropping by :) I've never tried an electro. These are classic roland sounds and I think very usable, especially with the effects, but that might be a very personal thing. There are also a few EXZ e-piano expansions I've not tried but they're like $20. What I'd recommend is to get a free trial of Roland Cloud - the exact same zencore sounds are in Zenology (and Zenology Pro) so you can get a feel for those for free. Would love to know what you think!
I really wouldn't call this a "preset machine" given that you can fully edit the tones, including having them based on user samples. As a performance machine, a user would be pre-making scene(s) per song, so the limited immediate controls are more than adequate. All in all, you get a LOT of stuff here and its the best Juno since the old Juno G imo.
I think this keyboard can be quite fun if you don’t have playing skills (like me) and you want to spend some time setting up scenes so that most of the parts are automated and you have to focus only on playing a small subset of the notes needed. I wonder if it would be possible to set up sequences on a part that get to be transposed by part of the keyboard?
The JDXI lets you do a trick like that with the arpegiator in hold mode using the octave up and down buttons to transpose. Also sends the arepegiated midi notes out
Thanks Loopop … again a great review. I’m a little bit disappointed about the lack of a song mode. I use the previous version JunoDS88 and I like this instrument for the available sounds in general and also the touch but that “phrase loop” thing on the right side … very limited … why not a song mode, lineair recording mode Roland? (I never use this part ) It’s not possible for recording a classical or a jazz tune because there’s a limitation in measures. I think most musicians would like to make songs, complex compositions , on the other hand, it can be a challenge to make songs with this limitation. This keyboard does do the job live, no complaints . IMO, my JunoDS sounds much better than the RD88 … that’s my taste of course 😊 but you have to do some editing because some presets sounding very flat , boring (especially the synth category). So, no big changes… It’s a JunoDS with ZenCore compatibility, new screen and knobs, …
@@loopop Have a dedicated software editor/librarian, load XV-5080 patches, use batteries, not have a chord memory, not have per part effects, lack many of the new effects. I have a DS61 and the D6 does everything except what I mentioned. The D6 is a slight improvement and only slightly more expensive than the most recent DS61 street price was, plus it will be around a decade with support.
I think they did improve on the interface since the DS with the new D, but there are a couple of things missing. Octave scale tuning appears to be only available via SysEx commands, and while the D has 8 layers, the DS can quickly switch between 16 layers which can be handy when controlling other synths on assigned channels. Also, it appears the "not being able to use things in parallel" is still present which I'd like to have seen improved in a newer product.
How is it "outdated"? Korg Kross and Yamaha MX do not beat it in sound or performance features by far. I believe that Yamaha could outdo it whenever they please, but they demonstrate that they couldn't care any less about the entry-level segment. Kross is crazy packed with features, but the performance controls and features are clunky and janky as heck, lol Juno-D has all the same 30-year-old samples and presets that Juno-DS and Juno-Di have, you know?
Very different keyboards overall, the Kross2 is packed with more features and a traditional linear sequencer with 16-parts instead of an 8-part loop-based sequencer of the Juno. Kross2 keybeds are not at all as good as the ones on the Junos (whther this Juno-D or the Juno-Di and Juno-DS predecessors). Workflows in Juno-DS and Juno-D are better. Beware that when you seach for info on this 2024 Juno-D, don't get mixed up with the old 2005 Juno-D.
Technicly any digital synth could turn in to software platfrom, that's what Roland is doing. If they having good software platform, why change that? Physical instruments with digital guts are more about physical appearance then software because all that you can have on PC.
@@ShadowriverUB LoL. Good software platform? I assume that's a joke. Roland cloud is a poorly executed, subscription service, that has little interest in musicians or indeed any type of end user. Merely Software As A Service subscription.
Roland cloud is incredible value for money, especially if you compare it to other vendors, and the integration with their hardware is second to none. There is a reason that Roland is so huge. It's because people like their products and trust the brand. As far as Zencore, that is the Roland synthesis engine - it works and every manufacturer has their own equivalent, whether it is Korg, Moog, Yamaha, Novation or Sequential.
NIce gear, crippled by their cloud, it blows, but the gear is amazing, the patches are amazing, the roland cloud feels like it needs about 5 more years to mature.
@@nickademuss42 I have a Gaia 2, Juno-X and Jupiter Xm and when you have the WC-1 and Cloud connect it’s a joy. I intensely dislike using the Roland Cloud Manager app on my Mac but with the 3 recents synths it’s really a great experience.
I love my JV1010,I used it with a controller 7 years ago as a second keyboard,definitely inconvenient 😀.I replaced it with a FA06 so now I'm thinking of upgrading
This 2024 Juno-D is not an upgrade over FA-06 in any meaningful way. Fantom-06 is much closer to FA, however - even the user manuals are just the FA manuals with a few edits.
Have an FA06...love the features but sounds are dated. Also going away from complicated and heading tawards light and easy to use which the new JUNO D seams to offer.
FA-06 successor is Fantom-06. Even the user manuals for the Fantom-0 series are just FA manuals with a few slight edits. Juno-D competitor is the Korg Kross. Even more feature-packed, but not as user friendly and versatile for live as Juno-DS and Juno-D If you don't like FA sounds, grab a Krome EX or MODX+, anything Zen-Core uses the same 30-year-old sounds and samples as FA. Kross is also much more like FA-06 than Juno-D is as far as features/functions.
Finally, the video has come out, thanks for appeasing my curiosity Loopop! Question, I see on the Roland website that it's got class compliant audio, have you tested to connect this to an iPad/iPhone and it works (Roland website states: USB COMPUTER port: USB Type-C(R) (Class Compliant for Audio and MIDI/ Roland driver for Audio and MIDI))?
@@loopop Cool, that means I can use iOS apps for expanding sound! One more Q, I see this board only has access to 8 (MIDI) parts, can I bypass that by using a DAW/External Sequencer?
I had a JUNO DS and really liked the sequencer/track mixer workflow. I think if Roland made a groovebox with pads only and added Sampling/chopping give it some of the SP-404 MK2 features that would bould real nice 👌 "JUNO-S or JUNO-SP"
@derekcrockett6214 yea sort of. I never tried one, but they could definitely improve on that from the looks of it. Add this new JUNO D screen so that you can see the mixer and also have a waveform display for sampling features. Also, I like the step sequencer on it that doubles as instrument category navigation. I think the verse lab is like the MC-101, and navigating through sounds isn't the best on that.
I just want to clarify that I specifically said this is the Zenology Pro VST in a box (with some differences, let's say 95%), so no one was trying to change your mind.
@loopop lol it's all love loopop ... you can make anything sound amazing... and your run through s of synths have cost me more money then I care to announce ❣️
Roland making top of the line Jupiter X/Juno X 😅 - NO! we don’t need a screen! Let’s puts the tiny screm ever! 😡 Roland making a low standard - OMG! We need the best screen ever made in this company!!!🤩 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would be interested to know if the onboard drums can be programmed to stop and go with the FC1 or 2, and if so , will the style and tempo designate a scene programmed into a favourite, Good video by the way, lots of info
Awesome Video!!! You obviously know your stuff (inside and out)! Quick question from a Synth "new-bee": Do I need a special type of sustain pedal for the Juno-D6? I can't figure out how to simply use a pedal to actually sustain a chord or a note! I am very new at synthesizers (although I am a long-time professional trombonist, arranger, and pianist), and just purchased this JUNO-D6 (it's my first synthesizer). Frankly - I'm overwhelmed - but in a good way! Can you please get back to me and let me know what I need to do in terms of a sustain pedal? I tried plugging in my Yamaha sustain pedal - but it does nothing. Thanks in advance! Bob
Thanks! It should work I guess, sustain pedals are pretty standard. Go to the D6 settings and try changing the polarity. Does the Yamaha sustain pedal plug have two black rings? if so it may be expression and not sustain pedal and that could be messing with it.
Yamaha sustain pedals use a different polarity, so it won't work with Roland keyboards You need a universal pedal like the M-Audio SP-2. Alternatively, the Roland DP-10 allows for half-pedalling if you want that.
Thank you for the video! Although I know they weren’t trying to do anything new, I’m always down to see your viewpoint and reviews! Question for you, Can you load the EXZ via their app? All exz are available to this model, correct? Looking to hock my integra 7 lol
@@Jason75913 this may sound dumb but from what I recall from the 2 weeks I owned the Fantom-06, the UI was just too much for me. Lol 🤷🏾♂️ This seems simple, clean and straight to the point from my perspective.
Thank you! I wonder if there a trick to play recorded patterns (scenes) sequentially, like a song mode. Maybe assigning them to the phrase pads? The max I can get 64 steps with 60 bpm. Still short. but chaining would help.
This video shows off a lot of new features that seem to not be present in the Juno DS line. Makes my decision of which one to purchase a more difficult one. Do I save a few hundred dollars and get the DS? Do I wait for this one to become available and get it? I do like the display on this one as well as the sequencer
There are plenty of people in the comment section that like their DS - so you can scroll around to see why; what I didn't include in this comparison is that the D has thousands more presets, if that's a consideration for you
This is so similar to the Juno DS. My only question that no one seems to know about is will this let you "Chain patterns" together to form a complete song or is the sequencer a basic scratch pad for ideas?
There's always a lot of hate towards 'cheaper' digital instruments but I think this does a lot of things right. - Lots of easy to acces sounds - Making it easy to take the sounds from your DAW on the road - Deep patch editing on the go if needed - Quite a few playing tools / modes This instrument is not aimed at the collectors or people that already have a bunch of high end synths. This is a solid mid range board that you can take to band practice or small shows without having to worry about much. It's not perfect but it seems highly useable. Will definitely beat the average beginner Casio.
Another review of knobs and colorful buttons. Can this instrument be used to play music? How the keyboard feels? Is the key action different / similar to Juno DS / Fantom O / Yamaha CK61? Can this instrument be used with a DAW? Are Juno D sounds better / worse than Juno DS / Fantom O / Yamaha CK / etc. Was this review for musicians?
1. If you bothered to watch the video, what I play in the intro and outro is music, and there are plenty of other videos not titled "review and tutorial" that play it further. Quick tip: read titles. 2. If you bothered to watch the video I discuss the action, how it feels and say it's the same as fantom 0 3. I can tell you if the sounds are better (same sounds as DS plus many more), but real musicians would use their ears and judge for themselves.
@@loopop My bad. I see you mentioned the keybed quickly at 9:00. Some reviewers start their review from the key action because it is more important than color buttons for most players. It seems like the Juno D6/7 has longer keys than Juno DS, so it should be easier to play. Anyways I’ve found other reviews which compared Juno DS and Juno D and did a lot of playing.
@@FirstLast-nr6gf I don’t know why you’re so obsessed with color buttons - where do I spend a lot of time on them?! Anyway, that’s why my reviews have a time stamp right there on the screen, so anyone can find what they want
Polyphony? Personally I would keep an eye out for a mint Juno X (or Jup Xm if preferred keybed already in place) for only a bit more if going the Roland path. Gigging on this kind of budget (or any budget really) is dictated by the sound sets you need to cover. So, I could see getting this (or that mint Juno X) or maybe a Kross instead of a Yamaha CK depending on that. For sound design or studio DAW work just get their cloud subscription paired with a better controller(s). Regardless, it is a lot of go juice for relatively little dosh.
on the top of the display with the up button, I see PR-a, PR-b, PR-c and USER. I cannot hear these sounds, how do I load them. in addition, from the soundlist, which I printed out from the website I cannot get PR-d, PR-e and COMMON. please help, I wrote to Roland several days ago and still have not heard from them.
Hello Loopop, thank you very much for this test. I have a question : since a single pattern can be programmed for each scene, do you know if it possible to chain scene patterns : for exemple scene 1 = intro, scene 2 = verse, scene 3 = chorus, and when you play the sequencer and you switch from the verse to chorus, so the scene is switched properly at the end of the last bar of the current scene pattern before starting the pattern of the new scene ? Thank you for your answer.
Roland FA much better pianos, electric pianos and acoustic guitars (all of them Supernatural Engine), better acoustic drums as well, but worse synthetizer sounds than Juno D7 (good in FA but not as good as in JUNO D)
Fantom-07 is the FA-07 successor. Both are far more feature-packed than Juno-D7. It's up to you and whatever you want out of the keyboard. Fantom-07 and Juno-D can potentially do better synth sounds, but that's a sound design case and a whole other can of worms that a lot of people don't get into. If you design your own sounds from scratch, Zen-Core gear is a little better for modern plucks, basses, and pads. FA has better acoustic sounds, though not as many as Integra-7, and I think the old Jupiter-80 that FA inherits its Supernatural engine from also has more.
It doesn't have a DAW integration to my knowledge; yes it sends MIDI on multiple channels and if I remember correctly the controls send CC, but don't hold me to it, best ask the company.
Haha... Love the intro especially the way back playback look at previous band and experience. Never saw that coming but explains a lot of your review power house knowledge. Great stuff brother! 🔥 👊 🧡 👍 🔥
An MC-707 with no clip launch and a keyboard attached to it PLUS a waayyyy better screen. Zen-Core is a really good engine, but suffers poor preset and pcm choices. luckily you can import your own !
And less FX processing and routing capabilities than 707, less sample memory, no loopers, no sampling functions like 707, poorer sequencer, and the list goes on and on. Quite different devices for different situations and different people.
Hello, Thank You for Your help and videos. Have a request about doing a video and go Extremely Deep in Describing the Trogotronic TR-Valkyrie if possible. Thank You 😊
Great video! you answered all the questions! 🫡😁 I have the previous version and I think quantization could be turned on or off by some shift function, so that may be possible on this? In case it's helpful- for those of us that have the last version: they finally added step recording and a color screen. IO didn't change much Mic input is a trs combo jack now and other than that, Mixer sliders changed so they don't protrude as much now, that maybe positive or negative depending on your needs. still the same fiddly menus, still has a lot of the same limitations but some have gotten slightly better, and it still has the same FX and still sounds great and now with zencore. Lots to enjoy here, but I'm not sure it's enough of an upgrade for me to jump up, however... Because I frequently use my JDXI to step sequence my Juno, and I have always complained that there is no step sequencer on the older juno- I may have to get one just for the step sequencer, and if I did, I might even be able to retire my JDXI if it wasn't so endlessly portable. Thanks again for the fantastic video! Greatly appreciated!
Ok so I’m a ds user. I watched the video. What I see for a difference is. ( part mode) ( performance mode ). Favorites . So scenes = performance mode ? I didn’t see Banks /favorites. These are the things they removed from the Ds. Did I get this right ?
Favorites and related Banks still have dedicated buttons. Performance = Scene in all Zen-Core keyboards. The adjustable quantization in the phrase sequencer is gone. You are stuck with 8 parts per Scene max, and one is permanently your drumkit. Those are about the biggest drawbacks.
To Roland’s credit they came out with the sh4d(owned it got rid of it wasn’t the best sounding)and now the Gaia 2. But this is their standard flare stuff not sure how this is better than the fantom O series though
It's not supposed to be better. The Fantom 0 series is much more capable. 16 part scenes, more capable sequencer with Song mode, Tonewheel Organ engine, Scene remain audio, sampling (not just playback) for either audio pads or into patch tones, more outputs, more included Zencore expansions, battery powered. Works as a multitrack audio interface with the vendor driver, can use the Zencore models of the SH, JX, Juno, and Jupiter which the Juno D-series cannot. So - it's a spot downward in the product line.
For now I'm keeping most of it for reference/firmware updates/MK2/3 comparisons etc; I sell/give old hardware after a new version has come out as I am running out of space
realtime control: looks like there is a full sysex implementation unlike the MC series. also it looks so close the the MC, should be easy enough to make the sample import/kit/sampled instrument generator i'm working on the MC work with it.
@@SmallWorldBigThings The 101 doesn't have a chord mode like that though, which is more like the chord sets in Native Instruments stuff. Way more useful than what's currently in the MC-grooveboxes,
@@Lenky-Don As a gigging player I’ve never used more than 4-8 parts on my DS76 to play 80s cover tunes with key splits and layers. Id rather have seamless audio remain when changing performances on the DS76 or D but that’s a Fantom feature.
@scott21113 yea, but what I'm saying is that they decided to make an upgrade and yet take away some important feature or options that the older model had, its like yamaha with their motif to montage, on the motif u can split the keyboard and change sounds while the split point remains where u placed it. On the montage, if u split the keyboard and change sounds, the split point is gone. So I'm not certain on the type of audience their targeting but it would be cool if this board had the 16 part feature....just saying.
@@Lenky-Don I have to back up scott, there's no way anyone was actually using the 16 layers unless producing at home. That said, DS lacks per-part EQ and MFX while this 2024 Juno-D does not. This Juno-D is not without a few minor advantages. Juno-DS was a top seller despite its Rhythm Pattern section being a pointless afterthought, and here the Juno-D seems to have inherited the arranger-like Rhythm Pattern section from FA and other midrange keyboards. I'm sticking to my DS in any event. I don't care for Roland Cloud nonsense, and I have an MC-707 for Zen-core sounds already.
I like these type of machines for live playing. That's why I have a 10-year-old Korg Krome. Why is Roland now competing with this or other Roland products? Who knows
Fantom-0, FA, Juno-Gi, and Juno-G have all held their own against similar Korg midrange keyboards like M50, TR, and Krome. Nothing new. But Korg hasn't been making such good stuff in the entry level until Kross, which is jam packed with features like crazy, but doesn't sound as good with pianos, e.pianos, and certain synth sounds versus the various Roland Junos like this 2024 Juno-D or the Juno-Di and Juno-DS predecessors.
How do you add new Zencore sounds? I successfully loaded the .sdz files to get new patches through the menu, but cannot figure out how to import the .exz files. Not in the manual, and nothing on YT. Any ideas???
Check out the cloud manual - exz are expansion packs, not zencore sounds, you load them differently if I remember correctly (I think by holding enter when you power up but please read the manual for the whole process...)
@@loopop Thanks! That worked! I tried the hold down Write (like the DS) and that didn't go. I bought the Vintage Synth pack and assumed given its size and different file extension, these were additional zencore, but the documentation on how to load them or what they are is poor at best.
The only thing that still annoys me is that chunk of plastic to the left just to accommodate a small joystick, making the keyboard unnecessarily bigger than it should
Its actually nice to me on the 61, it gives a place to rest your hand and fingers and allows a very comfortable bender experience. To me this is the only place to put the bender, cant stand any other location.
Simpler is better sometimes. Sometimes. Juno D[678] lacks features I'd want like song-level composition and saving to wav file. Oh and shooting laser notes out the back. Did Roland copy the Nautilus display color palette? Hot pink is making a comeback.
Yes, or Fantom-0. Curiously the Krome didn't support writing sequence playback to wav file and neither does Yamaha MODX. Reason I've kept my Triton Extreme for so long,.
A new rompler bearing the Juno name? A certain Austrian man is gonna have a field day!
I still don't understand why Roland don't send Florian every unit they release?
@@enochroot9438😂
Maybe it's the tweezers joke?
...... i think that austrian man died a long time ago...
😂 welcome, to another episode of..
At the first glace, it does look like it's going to tick all the boxes...
Ticks all the boxes for me...Battery power, lite weight, sequencer, nice display, great sounds, multitimbral, usb audio.
Love it ❤🎹❤
It really shines on this Retro, Cowboy, Arcade, Horror Goth, Reggaetone, Early Eighties, Mosh Pit, Punk, Dance, Gas Station, Baked, Mutation Jam!
the ds line is the battery powered ones, but with external power brick you could battery op this one
Now I want a video slideshow of all of Loopop's old party pictures
He was known as The Loop back in the day.
AudioPilz memes aside, I think people need to remember that this isn't trying to compete with a Super 6 or break any ground at all. It's like when the Arturia Astrolab came out - people complained that it was a preset machine, but SO many musicians appreciate having a keyboard setup that doesn't include a laptop and interface to muck about with on stage. Sometimes a preset machine is all you need in a band setting.
As a progression of its older counterpart, this doesn't immediately make me want to upgrade. But if my DS61 ever breaks, it's nice to know that there's a more modernised version of my workhorse that I can pick up. Great video as always!
The thing is, it does compete also with Roland itself. I don't understand why you would buy this over a Fantom-06, unless you are really tight on money.
@@mudi2000a exactly, this model will outsell the Fantom-06 because of its lower price and having all the bells and whistles your average stage performer wants, Fantom-06 is overkill
@@nahrky sure. I actually kind of like this machine, along with the “good multisampler in a box” shtick.
The thing is, it is very much not a juno, despite being marketed with that name.
I guess the frustration and jokes stem from this fact.
@@mudi2000aI own a MPC One Plus and wouldn't really need More than 8 MIDI channels or 7 if I'm not using the drums. You are right in that price will attract any perspective customers. I have internal plugins inside the MPC if I needed
If you didn’t have a DS-61, would you got with the DS-61 or the D
Fun to watch and luckily no G.A.S. was felt so all is good in the world.
I have no idea why Roland still hasn’t done a D50 expansion with Zencore. For a synth that’s so well remembered, it feels like Roland constantly ignores it. How “Digital Native Dance” isn’t a baked in preset on their ZenCore machines is mind boggling"
No doubt this keyboard is coming to a cover band near you. Synth nerds will talk trash because this is not groundbreaking, but it definitely fills a gap. There are very few sub $1000 workstation keyboards currently on the market. The Korg Kross is I think the only other, plus Roland hasn't updated this series in like 10 years. Overall I think it's functional, covers all the bases a player would need, and way cheaper than the cheapest Fantom.
Seems like a pretty great upgrade to DS61
If it had any name on it other than Juno, I don’t think it’d be getting that flak. That name has been assigned so much weight by the retro synth crowd that if Roland releases anything that isn’t a one oscillator per voice analog with a super-lush chorus, they riot.
I've had a DS76 previous generation for about 7 years, played nearly 300 shows in an 80s cover band with it and never heard a complaint from bar patrons or wedding party guests about the patches sounding thin or not analog enough. It replaced a Juno Stage I had. The DS76 weighs practically nothing, allows me to use batteries when in a spot without power, I can import my own samples for custom song patches, it has a Windows 10 compatible sample editor, a patch librarian, and you get the Axial (SRX) board sound sets AND ALL THE XV-5080 patches to use since the Juno DS engine is compatible with that generation of gear. We use the audio pads for show intro recordings or set break music. I've tried to gig with a Kronos, a MODX7, and a Krome 76, and they're all sold or at home in their gig bags (too heavy, screens or surface labels too hard to read, or too many distractions/bells/whistles) On average at $150 take home a show - I've pulled in about $45k gig income earned since mid 2016 with a $849 (at the time plus $150 for a Roland gig bag) board. I put it through a Radial D2 DI and it's good to go. If I was starting over or my present DS kicks the bucket I'd pick this up in a heartbeat to get access to Scene mode and tone category shortcuts.
Looks like a capable and relatively inexpensive synth for gigs. If damaged it should be easy to find a replacement at a big box music store in the next city on the tour. As someone alluded earlier, the audience doesn’t care that you aren’t playing the latest greatest $3000-4000 polysynth in a live band setting.
You think JDXI is Similar?....or Any Good?
Great review thanks Loopop! Had my D7 2 days now and it perfectly fills my need for a stage keyboard with great easy to find presets to accompany my Akai Force. Added bonus of being able to play backing tracks while the Akai loads, and jam something up quick if needed. No extra audio leads needed either, running akai or decks through the Ext input.
Excellent entry-level keyboard, way more affordable than a Fantom, and for most gigs will cover everything you need.
A follow up to the 707 with this screen would be amazing.
100%!
And sidechain compression, the glaring feature missing from the 707.
I want a Roland Mx 2 for aira devices.
What's with the names of Roland gear lately? Juno D is different synth from 2005. It still on Roland website BTW. It seems like Roland kinda forgot about their own synth?
The patch editor on this reminds me of the original Roland Fantom FA76, where each parameter and partial were laid out on a grid to be navigated by a dpad, a scroll wheel, and 8 buttons located under the screen (of which 4 could be used to select which partials you want to edit when holding shift and the 8th button is used to select things). Because of that screen it's actually really easy to make patches for it, and very quick as well.
That's the bit which interests me, navigating through the flow of a synth is the biggest set back for my creativity and I like to see the controls all laid out.
I love how my JV-30 evolved over the years 🙂
lol
I just received my Juno D6 to replace my old Juno 61 which I've been using for the last four years along with my Roland RD2000. I bought this one because it much easier to use and is the perfect keyboard for gigging, complimenting our bands expansion of 80s/90s covers. For me, it's a must have on top of my RD2000.
I read the manuals 2x front to back, and you definitely explain it better! Thank you!
Very comprehensive video, thanks
Thought I was clicking on latest episode of Bad Gear. 🤣
Thanks for the video....Sounds like a Roland slight de-balled FA06 with Zencore sounds
Thanks for all the synth presentations!
Glad you like them and thanks!
@@loopop
Thanks mate!
Looks like the perfect companion to an MPC for standalone beat making.
Interesting. The Juno-D effectively replaces the DS line so that now their entry-level workstation is on Zen-Core too and they have 3 tiers on Zen-core - Juno-D, Fantom-0 and Fantom. Also, neither Korg's nor Yamaha's entry-level workstations utilize their flagship sound engines. This is a win in my opinion (but maybe I'll change my tune after I actually watch the video lol!), especially as it's effectively cheaper than the DS line was (well, not with a zen-core subscription it's not, but I'm sure that's the point).
I always loved Fred Flint's tone.
Yabba Dabba Do
Yabba Dabba Re
Yabba Dabba Mi
.....
Seeing the comments on videos of this synth makes me sad. Some of us just want something portable and playable, and with customization of the partials and an 8-track sequencer, it seems like a very useful tool for songwriting and sound design.
I dunno, I’m thinking of selling the last few synths I have and getting this instead. Been wanting to consolidate anyways and this does all that I need, so I think Roland did good with this one
You've got the right ideas.
Can someone tell me. Will 64 voice polyphony cut it? I need something portable, reliable, affordable, giggable and goodsoundable.
@@christopherkiyui8071 don't confuse this 2024 Juno-D with the older 2005 Juno-D
That Arpeggiator looks awesome. I don't know why more synths don't add arp patterns, it's always just up, down, random 😴
agree 100%
The arpeggiator in this isn't new by far. You are missing out if you like going DAWless to some extent and do not use a workstation keyboard for support, in my opinion. The Korg Kross is better in the MIDI and sequencing departments versus Roland Junos and Yamaha MX. The Kross can also double as a decent post effects processor, too. The nice arpeggiator in this Juno-D can transmit MIDI, but the sequencer cannot. They want you switching to MC-707, Fantom-0, FA, or JD-Xi for that.
Korg and Yamaha left the chat
@@rafaelcatarino8372 My Yamaha AN1x has a bunch of cool arp patterns. Other than that my Virus does as well and now the Juno D. That's all I can think of.
@@RottenRotny korg with it's dual arpeggiators, and Yamaha motifs with 6000 arpeggio types?
I have been using Zencore since 1987 with my D-50. It wasn't called Zencore then but it was still a mix of VA waves with PCM samples. I then saw it in my Fantom workstation and recognized it from my D-50 but with more PCM. This one is kind of a cut down Fantom or cut down MC-707 which doesn't allow the models to be loaded like the JUNO-X allows. It is all various flavors of 1987.
Finally someone understands
@@DigiphexA reissue of the D-50 would be DOA with the general public and a reissue with changes would upset the fanboys. Why should Roland bother? They want new customers, not dudes with a wall of synths that wax nostalgic of something the general public isn’t clamoring for. I mean Bad Gear is fun and all but Roland seems to be doing fine. If they copied themselves they’d be isht upon by fanboys like Behringer is.
@@scott21113Jupiter-8 re-issue.
Whoa, JV1080 and its descendants all the way to the current Zen-Core gear blow the D-50 engine out of the water and out of orbit with extreme prejudice. The D-50 is the prototype, yes, and an utterly garbage facsimile of Zen-Core or even the older "PCM engine" shared by JV1080 and its descendants. But you are free to stroke yourself to whatever absurd delusions float your boat, of course.
Loopop! Be careful when adding Cowbell...it may summon a wild Florian!
Who says I wasn't doing that on purpose...
Incredibly, 30 years later Roland are still making synthesizers that sound the same as the wonderful JV 1080 from 1994, ok more connectivity, audio input, USB, blah blah, but again in the end they sound the same! Don't get me wrong, I don't want to seem like a hater, I think it's fine but nothing really revolutionary. Dear Loopop thank you for your wonderful review as always.
PS give my regards to Slash!! hahaha :)
I’m trying to think of the last time I’ve heard something “revolutionary” in the synth world 🤔🤔🤔
That being said… I still know EXACTLY what you mean here lol :) cheers friend 🍻
@@aloraliquidlol, only rare old additive synths can make revolutionary sounds.
1987 D-50 was the first time I heard these VA and PCM samples. I recognized some later in my Fantom.
@@chinossynthesizer705 😂 seriously though, it’s all been heard before. I haven’t heard anything in recent that has made me go “well that sounds new!” in terms of usable sounds.
My opinion of course….
@@aloraliquid rmi synthesizer, Dk synergy, and seiko ds 250 are additive monsters from the 80s that are rare and were never heard before. Old 80s drum machines are good new music sucks lol the 90s were better. Additive synthesis can make usable sounds it's the player who's the one that can't use it.
Great intro!!! ❤
Are any of the electric piano patches any good? Like close ish to a nord electro?
Hey - thanks for dropping by :) I've never tried an electro. These are classic roland sounds and I think very usable, especially with the effects, but that might be a very personal thing. There are also a few EXZ e-piano expansions I've not tried but they're like $20. What I'd recommend is to get a free trial of Roland Cloud - the exact same zencore sounds are in Zenology (and Zenology Pro) so you can get a feel for those for free. Would love to know what you think!
@@loopop 🫡 ❤️
Roland sound good as usual.
I really wouldn't call this a "preset machine" given that you can fully edit the tones, including having them based on user samples. As a performance machine, a user would be pre-making scene(s) per song, so the limited immediate controls are more than adequate. All in all, you get a LOT of stuff here and its the best Juno since the old Juno G imo.
Juno-G -> Juno-Gi - > FA - > Fantom-0
2005 Juno-D -> Juno-D LE -> Juno-Di - > Juno-DS - > 2024 Juno-D
Different eras and product lines.
I think this keyboard can be quite fun if you don’t have playing skills (like me) and you want to spend some time setting up scenes so that most of the parts are automated and you have to focus only on playing a small subset of the notes needed. I wonder if it would be possible to set up sequences on a part that get to be transposed by part of the keyboard?
I didn't see that feature
@@loopop I personally would have liked a transpose feature. But maybe it isn’t that important in the grand scheme of things.
The JDXI lets you do a trick like that with the arpegiator in hold mode using the octave up and down buttons to transpose. Also sends the arepegiated midi notes out
Thanks Loopop … again a great review. I’m a little bit disappointed about the lack of a song mode. I use the previous version JunoDS88 and I like this instrument for the available sounds in general and also the touch but that “phrase loop” thing on the right side … very limited … why not a song mode, lineair recording mode Roland? (I never use this part ) It’s not possible for recording a classical or a jazz tune because there’s a limitation in measures. I think most musicians would like to make songs, complex compositions , on the other hand, it can be a challenge to make songs with this limitation. This keyboard does do the job live, no complaints . IMO, my JunoDS sounds much better than the RD88 … that’s my taste of course 😊 but you have to do some editing because some presets sounding very flat , boring (especially the synth category). So, no big changes… It’s a JunoDS with ZenCore compatibility, new screen and knobs, …
How about a new MC with a screen like that and full synth model editing capabilities.
MC-707? It rocks.
I still don't get why Roland hasn't provided any Alpha Juno/ MKS50 related devices or ANYTHING ..
Great review as always LOOPOP.
✌️
Kinda weird they don’t allow it to support micro timing but the AIRA sampler they just released does.
Does that mean 32nd notes at a BPM under
The things this synth can't do will keep me using my JUNO-DS for years to come.
Interesting - I never tried one - curious, what are those things?
@@loopop Have a dedicated software editor/librarian, load XV-5080 patches, use batteries, not have a chord memory, not have per part effects, lack many of the new effects. I have a DS61 and the D6 does everything except what I mentioned. The D6 is a slight improvement and only slightly more expensive than the most recent DS61 street price was, plus it will be around a decade with support.
I think they did improve on the interface since the DS with the new D, but there are a couple of things missing. Octave scale tuning appears to be only available via SysEx commands, and while the D has 8 layers, the DS can quickly switch between 16 layers which can be handy when controlling other synths on assigned channels. Also, it appears the "not being able to use things in parallel" is still present which I'd like to have seen improved in a newer product.
So am update to the DS series? Nice. I have the Juno Ds61 and it rocks but is getting outdated. Might upgrade to this for sure
How is it "outdated"? Korg Kross and Yamaha MX do not beat it in sound or performance features by far. I believe that Yamaha could outdo it whenever they please, but they demonstrate that they couldn't care any less about the entry-level segment. Kross is crazy packed with features, but the performance controls and features are clunky and janky as heck, lol
Juno-D has all the same 30-year-old samples and presets that Juno-DS and Juno-Di have, you know?
Thanks for the super detailed review. How does this compare to a Korg Kross 2?
Very different keyboards overall, the Kross2 is packed with more features and a traditional linear sequencer with 16-parts instead of an 8-part loop-based sequencer of the Juno.
Kross2 keybeds are not at all as good as the ones on the Junos (whther this Juno-D or the Juno-Di and Juno-DS predecessors).
Workflows in Juno-DS and Juno-D are better.
Beware that when you seach for info on this 2024 Juno-D, don't get mixed up with the old 2005 Juno-D.
Finally a chord mode that shifts the cord along the keyboard!
@@robertsyrett1992 The FA series and present Fantom do that. You have to change the root key, works like a charm.
Everything is becoming increasingly beige and homogenous at Roland. This feels just like everything else they’ve released in the age of zencore.
Technicly any digital synth could turn in to software platfrom, that's what Roland is doing. If they having good software platform, why change that? Physical instruments with digital guts are more about physical appearance then software because all that you can have on PC.
@@ShadowriverUB zzzz
@@ShadowriverUB LoL. Good software platform? I assume that's a joke. Roland cloud is a poorly executed, subscription service, that has little interest in musicians or indeed any type of end user. Merely Software As A Service subscription.
Roland cloud is incredible value for money, especially if you compare it to other vendors, and the integration with their hardware is second to none. There is a reason that Roland is so huge. It's because people like their products and trust the brand. As far as Zencore, that is the Roland synthesis engine - it works and every manufacturer has their own equivalent, whether it is Korg, Moog, Yamaha, Novation or Sequential.
Perfect sound and software until... The next generation of perfect sound and software. No thanks
When will it be available in India
Not bad. Really good if you have the zenology software.
In case you do not remember it was definately Slash!
Still watching...
Normal screen on a Roland? No way, whats AudioPilz gonna do?
NIce gear, crippled by their cloud, it blows, but the gear is amazing, the patches are amazing, the roland cloud feels like it needs about 5 more years to mature.
@@nickademuss42 I have a Gaia 2, Juno-X and Jupiter Xm and when you have the WC-1 and Cloud connect it’s a joy. I intensely dislike using the Roland Cloud Manager app on my Mac but with the 3 recents synths it’s really a great experience.
I love my JV1010,I used it with a controller 7 years ago as a second keyboard,definitely inconvenient 😀.I replaced it with a FA06 so now I'm thinking of upgrading
Have a FA06 too.....Pads on FA06 can do so many more things but Zencore if fresher sounds.
@@wireguy123 If there are "fresher" Zen-Core sounds, you have to buy them from Roland Cloud. Otherwise, learn how to sound design.
This 2024 Juno-D is not an upgrade over FA-06 in any meaningful way. Fantom-06 is much closer to FA, however - even the user manuals are just the FA manuals with a few edits.
It's quite like a FA-06 just with ZEN-Core. All other functions are there also but the FA-0x has an serious sequencer with grid view etc.
Have an FA06...love the features but sounds are dated. Also going away from complicated and heading tawards light and easy to use which the new JUNO D seams to offer.
FA-06 successor is Fantom-06.
Even the user manuals for the Fantom-0 series are just FA manuals with a few slight edits.
Juno-D competitor is the Korg Kross. Even more feature-packed, but not as user friendly and versatile for live as Juno-DS and Juno-D
If you don't like FA sounds, grab a Krome EX or MODX+, anything Zen-Core uses the same 30-year-old sounds and samples as FA.
Kross is also much more like FA-06 than Juno-D is as far as features/functions.
@@Jason75913 Thanks Jason, I will dive deeper into my FA06
Finally, the video has come out, thanks for appeasing my curiosity Loopop!
Question, I see on the Roland website that it's got class compliant audio, have you tested to connect this to an iPad/iPhone and it works (Roland website states: USB COMPUTER port: USB Type-C(R) (Class Compliant for Audio and MIDI/ Roland driver for Audio and MIDI))?
Yes it works with a iPad (stereo audio only though, not multitrack)
@@loopop Cool, that means I can use iOS apps for expanding sound! One more Q, I see this board only has access to 8 (MIDI) parts, can I bypass that by using a DAW/External Sequencer?
@@tonylancer7367 I didn’t have time to look at the midi spec - I believe not likely
can you load and launch one shot .wav samples with the pad buttons?
I had a JUNO DS and really liked the sequencer/track mixer workflow. I think if Roland made a groovebox with pads only and added Sampling/chopping give it some of the SP-404 MK2 features that would bould real nice 👌 "JUNO-S or JUNO-SP"
I would definitely be interested in that, that's a great idea
Isn't that a VERSELAB?
@derekcrockett6214 yea sort of. I never tried one, but they could definitely improve on that from the looks of it. Add this new JUNO D screen so that you can see the mixer and also have a waveform display for sampling features. Also, I like the step sequencer on it that doubles as instrument category navigation. I think the verse lab is like the MC-101, and navigating through sounds isn't the best on that.
Expensive vst controller... and youll never change my mind
I just want to clarify that I specifically said this is the Zenology Pro VST in a box (with some differences, let's say 95%), so no one was trying to change your mind.
Would be if the midi worked…
@loopop lol it's all love loopop ... you can make anything sound amazing... and your run through s of synths have cost me more money then I care to announce ❣️
Exactly right dude
@triplebeam23 it’s just a raspberry pi in a keyboard wish loopop would crack them open and show what’s inside
Roland making top of the line Jupiter X/Juno X 😅
- NO! we don’t need a screen! Let’s puts the tiny screm ever! 😡
Roland making a low standard
- OMG! We need the best screen ever made in this company!!!🤩
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I would be interested to know if the onboard drums can be programmed to stop and go with the FC1 or 2, and if so , will the style and tempo designate a scene programmed into a favourite, Good video by the way, lots of info
Awesome Video!!! You obviously know your stuff (inside and out)!
Quick question from a Synth "new-bee": Do I need a special type of sustain pedal for the Juno-D6? I can't figure out how to simply use a pedal to actually sustain a chord or a note! I am very new at synthesizers (although I am a long-time professional trombonist, arranger, and pianist), and just purchased this JUNO-D6 (it's my first synthesizer).
Frankly - I'm overwhelmed - but in a good way! Can you please get back to me and let me know what I need to do in terms of a sustain pedal? I tried plugging in my Yamaha sustain pedal - but it does nothing. Thanks in advance!
Bob
Thanks! It should work I guess, sustain pedals are pretty standard. Go to the D6 settings and try changing the polarity. Does the Yamaha sustain pedal plug have two black rings? if so it may be expression and not sustain pedal and that could be messing with it.
Yamaha sustain pedals use a different polarity, so it won't work with Roland keyboards
You need a universal pedal like the M-Audio SP-2.
Alternatively, the Roland DP-10 allows for half-pedalling if you want that.
Very good review. Is it possible to import drums samples and make a new drum kit on it? Thanks!
Thanks! yes it is possible
Thank you for the video! Although I know they weren’t trying to do anything new, I’m always down to see your viewpoint and reviews! Question for you, Can you load the EXZ via their app? All exz are available to this model, correct? Looking to hock my integra 7 lol
Thanks! There's no librarian app for the JUNO D; on Roland's Clud app 13 EXZ's are compatible with this - I don't know if it's all of them...
Get Fantom-06 instead to replace the Integra, I say.
@@loopop thanks!
@@Jason75913 this may sound dumb but from what I recall from the 2 weeks I owned the Fantom-06, the UI was just too much for me. Lol 🤷🏾♂️ This seems simple, clean and straight to the point from my perspective.
Im from Thailand I like This
Thank you! I wonder if there a trick to play recorded patterns (scenes) sequentially, like a song mode. Maybe assigning them to the phrase pads?
The max I can get 64 steps with 60 bpm. Still short. but chaining would help.
This video shows off a lot of new features that seem to not be present in the Juno DS line. Makes my decision of which one to purchase a more difficult one. Do I save a few hundred dollars and get the DS? Do I wait for this one to become available and get it? I do like the display on this one as well as the sequencer
There are plenty of people in the comment section that like their DS - so you can scroll around to see why; what I didn't include in this comparison is that the D has thousands more presets, if that's a consideration for you
This is so similar to the Juno DS. My only question that no one seems to know about is will this let you "Chain patterns" together to form a complete song or is the sequencer a basic scratch pad for ideas?
As I mention in the video, no it's not possible
There's always a lot of hate towards 'cheaper' digital instruments but I think this does a lot of things right.
- Lots of easy to acces sounds
- Making it easy to take the sounds from your DAW on the road
- Deep patch editing on the go if needed
- Quite a few playing tools / modes
This instrument is not aimed at the collectors or people that already have a bunch of high end synths. This is a solid mid range board that you can take to band practice or small shows without having to worry about much.
It's not perfect but it seems highly useable. Will definitely beat the average beginner Casio.
Another review of knobs and colorful buttons. Can this instrument be used to play music? How the keyboard feels? Is the key action different / similar to Juno DS / Fantom O / Yamaha CK61? Can this instrument be used with a DAW? Are Juno D sounds better / worse than Juno DS / Fantom O / Yamaha CK / etc. Was this review for musicians?
1. If you bothered to watch the video, what I play in the intro and outro is music, and there are plenty of other videos not titled "review and tutorial" that play it further. Quick tip: read titles.
2. If you bothered to watch the video I discuss the action, how it feels and say it's the same as fantom 0
3. I can tell you if the sounds are better (same sounds as DS plus many more), but real musicians would use their ears and judge for themselves.
@@loopop My bad. I see you mentioned the keybed quickly at 9:00. Some reviewers start their review from the key action because it is more important than color buttons for most players. It seems like the Juno D6/7 has longer keys than Juno DS, so it should be easier to play. Anyways I’ve found other reviews which compared Juno DS and Juno D and did a lot of playing.
@@FirstLast-nr6gf I don’t know why you’re so obsessed with color buttons - where do I spend a lot of time on them?! Anyway, that’s why my reviews have a time stamp right there on the screen, so anyone can find what they want
When I set the sequencer for 32 it starts looping at 16. Anyone know why?
Polyphony? Personally I would keep an eye out for a mint Juno X (or Jup Xm if preferred keybed already in place) for only a bit more if going the Roland path. Gigging on this kind of budget (or any budget really) is dictated by the sound sets you need to cover. So, I could see getting this (or that mint Juno X) or maybe a Kross instead of a Yamaha CK depending on that. For sound design or studio DAW work just get their cloud subscription paired with a better controller(s). Regardless, it is a lot of go juice for relatively little dosh.
See description for a discussion of polyphony
on the top of the display with the up button, I see PR-a, PR-b, PR-c and USER. I cannot hear these sounds, how do I load them. in addition, from the soundlist, which I printed out from the website I cannot get PR-d, PR-e and COMMON. please help, I wrote to Roland several days ago and still have not heard from them.
Wow, this is so innovative!
Only 7 patches per performance? JUNO Ds can do 16 though
yes, (well, and one more for drums, so 8)
The trade off with the 8 parts is that there is now MFX + EQ per part. Only a minority of users will really take advantage of that.
Hello Sir Do You know how to change the range of Pitch on the Joystick .?
I don't remember by heart but it's in the settings!
@@loopop Thank You for Your answer. You are right it is in the Menu > Tone Edit > Common > Bend Range . THX
Hello Loopop, thank you very much for this test. I have a question : since a single pattern can be programmed for each scene, do you know if it possible to chain scene patterns : for exemple scene 1 = intro, scene 2 = verse, scene 3 = chorus, and when you play the sequencer and you switch from the verse to chorus, so the scene is switched properly at the end of the last bar of the current scene pattern before starting the pattern of the new scene ? Thank you for your answer.
No, to my knowledge you cannot chain scenes
@@loopop Thank you very much!
Можно ли его считать младшим братом нового Jupiter 80 v.2?
0:32 Disclaimer: synth does not actually shoot laser notes 😂
Roland FA07 vs JUNO D7? Which better?
Roland FA much better pianos, electric pianos and acoustic guitars (all of them Supernatural Engine), better acoustic drums as well, but worse synthetizer sounds than Juno D7 (good in FA but not as good as in JUNO D)
Fantom-07 is the FA-07 successor.
Both are far more feature-packed than Juno-D7.
It's up to you and whatever you want out of the keyboard.
Fantom-07 and Juno-D can potentially do better synth sounds, but that's a sound design case and a whole other can of worms that a lot of people don't get into. If you design your own sounds from scratch, Zen-Core gear is a little better for modern plucks, basses, and pads.
FA has better acoustic sounds, though not as many as Integra-7, and I think the old Jupiter-80 that FA inherits its Supernatural engine from also has more.
How is it at controlling a DAW? ... can it send at different MIDI channels simultaneously? can the sliders and knobs be assigned?
It doesn't have a DAW integration to my knowledge; yes it sends MIDI on multiple channels and if I remember correctly the controls send CC, but don't hold me to it, best ask the company.
Haha... Love the intro especially the way back playback look at previous band and experience. Never saw that coming but explains a lot of your review power house knowledge. Great stuff brother! 🔥 👊 🧡 👍 🔥
Thanks! I learned everything I know from Slash!
aka Slesh...
One question:
If possible, how could we use the metronom?
That's only available when you switch to the phrase sequencer mode.
Can the sequencer record /sequence automation of filters , ratchets, reverbs,etc??? How many lanes of such automation will it record?
@@ajapa7658 4 lanes and yes (ratchets are in the steps separately so they won’t cost you a lane)
i hate seeing wasted space on the panel of a synth with few real time controls
Agreed. Could of make it a coffee cup holder
An MC-707 with no clip launch and a keyboard attached to it PLUS a waayyyy better screen. Zen-Core is a really good engine, but suffers poor preset and pcm choices. luckily you can import your own !
And less FX processing and routing capabilities than 707, less sample memory, no loopers, no sampling functions like 707, poorer sequencer, and the list goes on and on. Quite different devices for different situations and different people.
Hello, Thank You for Your help and videos. Have a request about doing a video and go Extremely Deep in Describing the Trogotronic TR-Valkyrie if possible. Thank You 😊
My pleasure and noted!
Great video! you answered all the questions! 🫡😁 I have the previous version and I think quantization could be turned on or off by some shift function, so that may be possible on this? In case it's helpful- for those of us that have the last version: they finally added step recording and a color screen. IO didn't change much Mic input is a trs combo jack now and other than that, Mixer sliders changed so they don't protrude as much now, that maybe positive or negative depending on your needs. still the same fiddly menus, still has a lot of the same limitations but some have gotten slightly better, and it still has the same FX and still sounds great and now with zencore. Lots to enjoy here, but I'm not sure it's enough of an upgrade for me to jump up, however... Because I frequently use my JDXI to step sequence my Juno, and I have always complained that there is no step sequencer on the older juno- I may have to get one just for the step sequencer, and if I did, I might even be able to retire my JDXI if it wasn't so endlessly portable. Thanks again for the fantastic video! Greatly appreciated!
Master key. + - feature available in this keyboard?
Ok so I’m a ds user. I watched the video. What I see for a difference is. ( part mode) ( performance mode ). Favorites . So scenes = performance mode ? I didn’t see Banks /favorites. These are the things they removed from the Ds. Did I get this right ?
Favorites and related Banks still have dedicated buttons.
Performance = Scene in all Zen-Core keyboards.
The adjustable quantization in the phrase sequencer is gone. You are stuck with 8 parts per Scene max, and one is permanently your drumkit. Those are about the biggest drawbacks.
„By your command…“ 😂❤
Hi, I have a question, does the sequencer allow to record several tracks at the same time? Thank you for your answer.
Which current Roland desktop box has all these drum kits?
Thanks!
My pleasure - thank you!
To Roland’s credit they came out with the sh4d(owned it got rid of it wasn’t the best sounding)and now the Gaia 2. But this is their standard flare stuff not sure how this is better than the fantom O series though
It's not supposed to be better. The Fantom 0 series is much more capable. 16 part scenes, more capable sequencer with Song mode, Tonewheel Organ engine, Scene remain audio, sampling (not just playback) for either audio pads or into patch tones, more outputs, more included Zencore expansions, battery powered. Works as a multitrack audio interface with the vendor driver, can use the Zencore models of the SH, JX, Juno, and Jupiter which the Juno D-series cannot. So - it's a spot downward in the product line.
Look it's going to be on bad gear in a few weeks but hey I still want this one
Florian has yet to touch any of the dozen Juno workstation keyboards. It looks like he won't.
Just curious, Loop...you must have quite a collection of new gear. Do you keep all of it, or do you pass it on?
For now I'm keeping most of it for reference/firmware updates/MK2/3 comparisons etc; I sell/give old hardware after a new version has come out as I am running out of space
@@loopop Im looking forward your studio tour becasue by now it should be like another house.
realtime control: looks like there is a full sysex implementation unlike the MC series. also it looks so close the the MC, should be easy enough to make the sample import/kit/sampled instrument generator i'm working on the MC work with it.
Basically two MC-101s in one device with a keyboard. Nice!
Imagine if the MC-101 had that screen and chord mode though.
@@coolo73 It has chord mode. Bigger screen would be realy helpful.
It’s sounds sooooo bad
@@Tripwelleverday Maybe built in presets 🤷 I have third party patches on MC-101 which sound amazingly!
@@SmallWorldBigThings The 101 doesn't have a chord mode like that though, which is more like the chord sets in Native Instruments stuff. Way more useful than what's currently in the MC-grooveboxes,
The DS gave u the option to layer up to 16 sounds, why cut back on this?
@@Lenky-Don As a gigging player I’ve never used more than 4-8 parts on my DS76 to play 80s cover tunes with key splits and layers. Id rather have seamless audio remain when changing performances on the DS76 or D but that’s a Fantom feature.
@scott21113 yea, but what I'm saying is that they decided to make an upgrade and yet take away some important feature or options that the older model had, its like yamaha with their motif to montage, on the motif u can split the keyboard and change sounds while the split point remains where u placed it. On the montage, if u split the keyboard and change sounds, the split point is gone. So I'm not certain on the type of audience their targeting but it would be cool if this board had the 16 part feature....just saying.
@@Lenky-Don I have to back up scott, there's no way anyone was actually using the 16 layers unless producing at home. That said, DS lacks per-part EQ and MFX while this 2024 Juno-D does not. This Juno-D is not without a few minor advantages. Juno-DS was a top seller despite its Rhythm Pattern section being a pointless afterthought, and here the Juno-D seems to have inherited the arranger-like Rhythm Pattern section from FA and other midrange keyboards. I'm sticking to my DS in any event. I don't care for Roland Cloud nonsense, and I have an MC-707 for Zen-core sounds already.
I like these type of machines for live playing. That's why I have a 10-year-old Korg Krome. Why is Roland now competing with this or other Roland products? Who knows
Fantom-0, FA, Juno-Gi, and Juno-G have all held their own against similar Korg midrange keyboards like M50, TR, and Krome. Nothing new.
But Korg hasn't been making such good stuff in the entry level until Kross, which is jam packed with features like crazy, but doesn't sound as good with pianos, e.pianos, and certain synth sounds versus the various Roland Junos like this 2024 Juno-D or the Juno-Di and Juno-DS predecessors.
How do you add new Zencore sounds? I successfully loaded the .sdz files to get new patches through the menu, but cannot figure out how to import the .exz files. Not in the manual, and nothing on YT. Any ideas???
Check out the cloud manual - exz are expansion packs, not zencore sounds, you load them differently if I remember correctly (I think by holding enter when you power up but please read the manual for the whole process...)
@@loopop Thanks! That worked! I tried the hold down Write (like the DS) and that didn't go. I bought the Vintage Synth pack and assumed given its size and different file extension, these were additional zencore, but the documentation on how to load them or what they are is poor at best.
The only thing that still annoys me is that chunk of plastic to the left just to accommodate a small joystick, making the keyboard unnecessarily bigger than it should
Its actually nice to me on the 61, it gives a place to rest your hand and fingers and allows a very comfortable bender experience. To me this is the only place to put the bender, cant stand any other location.
Can you shift scenes and thereby change sequence data with it on the fly - so to have patterns for live performance?
No, at least not in the current firmware
@@loopop Same problem with the FA-06 - which I actually loved - and the Fantom got less intuitive.
Simpler is better sometimes. Sometimes. Juno D[678] lacks features I'd want like song-level composition and saving to wav file. Oh and shooting laser notes out the back. Did Roland copy the Nautilus display color palette? Hot pink is making a comeback.
Sounds like you want a Krome EX, Kross, or FA-06
Yes, or Fantom-0. Curiously the Krome didn't support writing sequence playback to wav file and neither does Yamaha MODX.
Reason I've kept my Triton Extreme for so long,.
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64MB sample memory? WTF? In which century are living these Roland guys?🤨
Juno Ds has 32mb tho
@@handel1111 In OS version 2.0, the Juno DS has exactly 60 MB of memory for external samples.