'Job' has one of the greatest moments and lines in all of the ancient literature. So profound and memorable, whole scriptures could be written out of it, and has vividly inspired amazing art. 'Naked came I out of my mother's womb, naked I return thither. The Lord gave, the Lord hath taken away: blessed be the name of the Lord.' it is the ultimate statement of faith. A mixture of heartbreak and hope.
There are many profound figures of the ages. But that legendary moment and declaration almost puts Job above them all. You lose everything but faith? Aristotle is a parsing schoolmaster compared to that.
Yet another fascinating run-through of Blake's perception of suffering and our relation to the higher self and the divine. I enjoyed the perspective to Jung's individuation and your inherent criticism thereof.
A penetrating set of reflections, Mark, thank you. I echo those here who say you ought to write this book. Your commentary reveals so well the spiritual dynamite in Blake's work. I'd love to know more about his theological beliefs. Especially his rejection of pantheism, and even panentheism. For the latter seems implicit in everything he says. Thanks again.
I think it’s pretty clear Blake as a nondualist. “I am in you and you in me” is a pretty constant refrain throughout his work. Plus, alongside the Christian tradition, “Therefore God becomes as we are, that we may be as he is,” as Blake himself puts it, he read the Bhagavad Gita and so knew of the advaita traditions elsewhere too.
Mark, another wonderful video and soul changing insight. Allen Ginsberg puts Blake's poems to music, and feels Blake did too. Do you think that is true, that Blake put music to the poems, or that they were meant to be sung, like Hymns?
I believe the image of plate 11 is Yaldabaoth the snaking body wrapping up to a head of a lion. his name means son of chaos, this would make sense with the idea of a evil material work.
I Recognise every word you say and how well you illustrate (pun intended) what Blake is conveying in all of his poems and art by his use of the imagination. I often listen to Neville goddard on imagination who I suppose you have heard. What your views on neville Goddard about Blake.
@@PlatosPodcasts Hi mark I think once you have listened to Neville Goddard you will see that everything you understand about the imagination to this point will lend weight in a practical sense about how to use your imagination. i would love to hear you discuss with your audience which I am now one of them, how important the work of Neville Goddard is in conveying how the four gospels are in teaching us all how to use our imaginations whereby you can change from the old man of the bible to the new man.
Pantheism is usually defined as identifying God and nature, whereas Blake is emphatic that though nature manifests God, God exceeds nature - as does Humanity too, in fact, as the "human form divine". Panentheism might be another possibility although Blake also argued that nature's end is divine too. So whilst "Eternity is in love with the productions of time" and one can see "Heaven in a Wild Flower", all that is temporal and finite will awaken "in the Life of Immortality".
I must comment on a misunderstanding about Individualtion. Within this process one learns the truth of our humanity, truth of species, which is not incompatible with Blake's sense of divine manifestation. Job is a story about what a job will do to anyone.
Thank you Mark for giving this presentation about Blake and what he is trying to convey to us through his art and poetry. Your presentations do help in my understanding of Blake when I take time to read his work. Once again thanks for enlightening me with your understanding of Blake.
'Job' has one of the greatest moments and lines
in all of the ancient literature. So profound and memorable, whole scriptures could be written out of it, and has vividly inspired amazing art. 'Naked came I out of my mother's womb, naked I return thither. The Lord gave, the Lord hath taken away: blessed be the name of the Lord.' it is the ultimate statement of faith. A mixture of heartbreak and hope.
There are many profound figures of the ages. But that legendary moment and declaration almost puts Job above them all. You lose everything but faith? Aristotle is a parsing schoolmaster compared to that.
Yet another fascinating run-through of Blake's perception of suffering and our relation to the higher self and the divine. I enjoyed the perspective to Jung's individuation and your inherent criticism thereof.
Brilliant reflection, as always. I hope you will put it into book form one day. It would be a joy to read.
Second this
Most excellent. Listening with great interest. A Yank from the US Midwest.
Many thanks Mark for an insightful commentary and a very helpful way-in into Blake's amazing artworks
A deeply beautiful interpretation. I hope you write a book on Blake!
Me, too.
An Orthodox Priest that I like said that the goal of the atonement is “at one -ment” with God.”
Thank You very much!
Very well put together and said. Thanks
A penetrating set of reflections, Mark, thank you. I echo those here who say you ought to write this book. Your commentary reveals so well the spiritual dynamite in Blake's work. I'd love to know more about his theological beliefs. Especially his rejection of pantheism, and even panentheism. For the latter seems implicit in everything he says. Thanks again.
I think it’s pretty clear Blake as a nondualist. “I am in you and you in me” is a pretty constant refrain throughout his work. Plus, alongside the Christian tradition, “Therefore God becomes as we are, that we may be as he is,” as Blake himself puts it, he read the Bhagavad Gita and so knew of the advaita traditions elsewhere too.
Mark, another wonderful video and soul changing insight. Allen Ginsberg puts Blake's poems to music, and feels Blake did too. Do you think that is true, that Blake put music to the poems, or that they were meant to be sung, like Hymns?
There are reports of Blake singing his lines, yes. Plus I like to think he was drawn, in part, to the Bhagavad Gita because it means the Lord's Song.
I believe the image of plate 11 is Yaldabaoth the snaking body wrapping up to a head of a lion. his name means son of chaos, this would make sense with the idea of a evil material work.
I Recognise every word you say and how well you illustrate (pun intended) what Blake is conveying in all of his poems and art by his use of the imagination. I often listen to Neville goddard on imagination who I suppose you have heard. What your views on neville Goddard about Blake.
I don't know Goddard in fact but will make a note, thanks.
@@PlatosPodcasts Hi mark I think once you have listened to Neville Goddard you will see that everything you understand about the imagination to this point will lend weight in a practical sense about how to use your imagination. i would love to hear you discuss with your audience which I am now one of them, how important the work of Neville Goddard is in conveying how the four gospels are in teaching us all how to use our imaginations whereby you can change from the old man of the bible to the new man.
@@PlatosPodcasts You can listen to Neville Goddard on you tube
Great video. I didn't quite understand why Blake would reject pantheism. Does that not conform with the perennial philosophy?
Pantheism is usually defined as identifying God and nature, whereas Blake is emphatic that though nature manifests God, God exceeds nature - as does Humanity too, in fact, as the "human form divine". Panentheism might be another possibility although Blake also argued that nature's end is divine too. So whilst "Eternity is in love with the productions of time" and one can see "Heaven in a Wild Flower", all that is temporal and finite will awaken "in the Life of Immortality".
I must comment on a misunderstanding about Individualtion. Within this process one learns the truth of our humanity, truth of species, which is not incompatible with Blake's sense of divine manifestation.
Job is a story about what a job will do to anyone.
Thank you Mark for giving this presentation about Blake and what he is trying to convey to us through his art and poetry. Your presentations do help in my understanding of Blake when I take time to read his work. Once again thanks for enlightening me with your understanding of Blake.
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