I was always pretty lucky with suspension. My dad was a n mxgp mechanic for Max Ansties dad Mervyn,so he knew what he was doing, and I was also pretty in tune with how my suspension felt,and was able to communicate what it was doing and what I wanted from it. That coupled with my dad being able to watch what the bike was doing while I was on track,and knowing what to do to sort it meant my bike setup was always EXACTLY how It needed to be. Even the smallest change in setup can make a massive difference to a riders lap times
As a desert guy I’ve had many suspension issues. After I got an a kit valved right I’ve gained so much more speed and confidence it’s been life changing. I feel with motocross you can get away with a setting that’s not valved right. The desert has so many more variables and if you don’t like it in all parts of the stroke try another revalve! I’ve been thru three in this a kit and it’s perfect.
@@GYPSYTALES coming from the KYB PSF air fork to these so far I’m impressed. I miss the on demand adjustment with the air but as a whole package man…one of the best off the shelf production units.
Skill level and determination respective. Man and Machine - working in tandem and each calibrated to match each other. Man vs Machine - one is performing diffrerent than the other or in other words outside the zone. We have all experienced how the 'zone' feels.
I've learned so much since I've stopped racing after high-school. And my biggest issue to going faster was exactly that. I was afraid of the bike doing somthing I didn't expect. All of my big crashes happened completely out of the blue.
Going from air to spring makes a world of difference on the Austrian bikes. With the stock WP air you really have no feeling of when the front end is going to go from under you. You also are constantly chasing the balance of hold up and top stroke plushness. Went to cone valves and the confidence went up 10x.
Rode a 1999 cr250 since I was 13 love the bike, honestly didn't know any different. Last year bought a 2021 crf450rx and holy hell! Never felt so comfortable on a bike in my life.
Awesome conversation. 👌 my favorite thing is how guys bash the company who does their valving and you ask what their sag is and they don't know off hand or haven't even legitimately Checked it or tried a different sag setting ever. Lol
I mainly ride enduro being a bit hefty I always went springs and revalve. Now im a bit older and have a bit more cash on my 24 TE i went a 7500kit and bladder in back and it was nice. I then went a full set of cone WP Pro and its amazing. I have a set of PRO on my 890 as well. If I could have all my money back if got 7500kit and rear shock on my TE and i didnt notice the rear shock as much on the 890 but the forks on the 890 when it comes to erosion mounds etc the front feels like the harder you hit the better it is.
Dude! You should add Austin stroupe to your guys to get on the podcast. His story from his mouth would be insane, on top of the training facility he and Jessica Patterson are putting together in South Carolina. Love me some tommy searle too, guys the man!
Back when I was 12-13 years old we got the suspension done on my YZ125. Had to be recalled and resprung for my 120 pound self and I shit you not I was 10 seconds a lap faster with the new suspension
The front end of my bike washed out badly in Feb 2015. Since then I've really held back. I think the forks may have been too stiff and hit a clump of baffle grass coming out of a rutted turn.
Back in the day I raced a 1997 cr250. Stiff, poor handling, jarring. Factory connection suspension delivered to the track. Bolted it up, went out to practice, set sag, won the overall. Bumps that scared me before disappeared with the new stuff. Best money spent.
Even road bikes it makes so much difference if you get it setup for your weight, so much safer for 1. To many just get a bike on and off road and ride it as the get it.
The problem is that every suspension shop has a different philosophy of what good suspension should be. I have been struggling for 2 years with set up on a set of WP pro components tuned by a big WP authorized suspension shop. I switched to a Yamaha this year with revalved KYB stuff and it’s an unbelievable difference.
Bogan Jesus talking about swapping out and eating shit was super entertaining. Could be a UA-cam channel by itself "Aussies recounting crashes" "I fookin land sideways off every jump.."
Hey mate, this is just a clip from an 3 hour plus podcast... Sometimes when you cut 8 minutes from it I will talk more. You are just gunna have to accept it and move on. Or don't and just don't watch...
@@GYPSYTALES I’m glad you saw this. I needed to give you the feedback that your short videos seem to consistently feature more of your stores than those of your guests. I don’t subscribe for that reason but wanted to let you know as it’s the reason preventing me
I was always pretty lucky with suspension. My dad was a n mxgp mechanic for Max Ansties dad Mervyn,so he knew what he was doing, and I was also pretty in tune with how my suspension felt,and was able to communicate what it was doing and what I wanted from it. That coupled with my dad being able to watch what the bike was doing while I was on track,and knowing what to do to sort it meant my bike setup was always EXACTLY how It needed to be.
Even the smallest change in setup can make a massive difference to a riders lap times
I’m 25 and finally got my own bike and o ride now almost every weekend I love this sport so much
I’m hooked ❤
Sold! Haven't had a bike for a few year looking to get back into it.. and you had me at night and day difference. You guys are great keep up!
As a desert guy I’ve had many suspension issues. After I got an a kit valved right I’ve gained so much more speed and confidence it’s been life changing. I feel with motocross you can get away with a setting that’s not valved right. The desert has so many more variables and if you don’t like it in all parts of the stroke try another revalve! I’ve been thru three in this a kit and it’s perfect.
Im currently running the 2022 yz250f kyb stock stuff and wow its been about 10years since iv ridden and the stock stuff performs great so far 👍🏻
Yeah that is a great stock fork
@@GYPSYTALES coming from the KYB PSF air fork to these so far I’m impressed. I miss the on demand adjustment with the air but as a whole package man…one of the best off the shelf production units.
Skill level and determination respective.
Man and Machine - working in tandem and each calibrated to match each other.
Man vs Machine - one is performing diffrerent than the other or in other words outside the zone.
We have all experienced how the 'zone' feels.
I've learned so much since I've stopped racing after high-school. And my biggest issue to going faster was exactly that. I was afraid of the bike doing somthing I didn't expect. All of my big crashes happened completely out of the blue.
That's how it always goes.
Going from air to spring makes a world of difference on the Austrian bikes. With the stock WP air you really have no feeling of when the front end is going to go from under you. You also are constantly chasing the balance of hold up and top stroke plushness. Went to cone valves and the confidence went up 10x.
I have cone valve air on my 16 250sx and it’s night and day difference to the stock air forks
Love this show , well done brother , keep up the good work 👍🏻
Rode a 1999 cr250 since I was 13 love the bike, honestly didn't know any different. Last year bought a 2021 crf450rx and holy hell! Never felt so comfortable on a bike in my life.
Tommy and Billy is strong! Can’t wait for ⚡️BB57⚡️
Thanks 🙏🏽
I own the National shock and the lucky fork cartridges plus Neken rubber mounted clamps whatta change over stock it really is night and day.
Awesome conversation. 👌 my favorite thing is how guys bash the company who does their valving and you ask what their sag is and they don't know off hand or haven't even legitimately Checked it or tried a different sag setting ever. Lol
Suspension was always my down fall never new how to get it right.
I mainly ride enduro being a bit hefty I always went springs and revalve. Now im a bit older and have a bit more cash on my 24 TE i went a 7500kit and bladder in back and it was nice. I then went a full set of cone WP Pro and its amazing. I have a set of PRO on my 890 as well. If I could have all my money back if got 7500kit and rear shock on my TE and i didnt notice the rear shock as much on the 890 but the forks on the 890 when it comes to erosion mounds etc the front feels like the harder you hit the better it is.
MX tech rules!!!
Black Jack front forks and national shock!!!
K tech single spring conversion on the ktm ftw
Jace it will change your bike just like it did when you put mx tech on it’s amazing
Dude! You should add Austin stroupe to your guys to get on the podcast. His story from his mouth would be insane, on top of the training facility he and Jessica Patterson are putting together in South Carolina. Love me some tommy searle too, guys the man!
Where in SC?
@@marthamryglod291 Gray Court, SC. Look up NXT LVL 101 training facility
Back when I was 12-13 years old we got the suspension done on my YZ125. Had to be recalled and resprung for my 120 pound self and I shit you not I was 10 seconds a lap faster with the new suspension
The front end of my bike washed out badly in Feb 2015. Since then I've really held back.
I think the forks may have been too stiff and hit a clump of baffle grass coming out of a rutted turn.
I was riding motocross and hard enduro with the same setting
Cool dude Tommy.
Back in the day I raced a 1997 cr250. Stiff, poor handling, jarring. Factory connection suspension delivered to the track. Bolted it up, went out to practice, set sag, won the overall. Bumps that scared me before disappeared with the new stuff. Best money spent.
That was a hard bike to make handle well, That 97-99 frame was just SOO stiff.
Is the K-Tech considered in the same league as MX Tech for motocross specific riding? Lots of press on the MX Tech but not much on the K-Tech.
Mx-Tech is on a WAY higher level than K-tech ... no compare
Even road bikes it makes so much difference if you get it setup for your weight, so much safer for 1. To many just get a bike on and off road and ride it as the get it.
Good suspension gives you confidence, without confidence you're gonna crash.
Exactly
Mind over matter
If you think your going to crash you will
Think positive be confident or you will hurt yourself people 💯
Ride safe brothers 🇬🇧
The problem is that every suspension shop has a different philosophy of what good suspension should be. I have been struggling for 2 years with set up on a set of WP pro components tuned by a big WP authorized suspension shop. I switched to a Yamaha this year with revalved KYB stuff and it’s an unbelievable difference.
Bogan Jesus talking about swapping out and eating shit was super entertaining. Could be a UA-cam channel by itself "Aussies recounting crashes" "I fookin land sideways off every jump.."
Agree with this 100%, Ohlins RFX48 internals and GPR Pro steering damper is the best thing I've done to a MX bike.
Love my damper. Saved me many many times.
With a sprinkling of placebo.
Placebo effect really delivers.
Buy a Yamaha and it comes with fantastic suspension so you dont need to spend any extra money. save your self a fortune
I have a Yamaha and a ktm. They are older but the ktm suspension is way better, not everyone can afford newer bikes.
More talk from the host than the guest. AGAIN!
Hey mate, this is just a clip from an 3 hour plus podcast... Sometimes when you cut 8 minutes from it I will talk more. You are just gunna have to accept it and move on. Or don't and just don't watch...
@@GYPSYTALES I’m glad you saw this. I needed to give you the feedback that your short videos seem to consistently feature more of your stores than those of your guests. I don’t subscribe for that reason but wanted to let you know as it’s the reason preventing me