@@megatron6382 yes that is correct..main provokers are politicians ...if you don't fancy all this they will stick to their basics and work on development otherwise things will go out of control i agree with your point
Yes.. now they are inventing new language called Telangana just to divide people more.. so that they can be rulers for a small sect… politicians will not stop… they will keep dividing people as much as they can so that they can stay in power
We need not at all fight. But it's important to take forward our next generations the antiquity and richness of our language. Telugus are only busy talking in Tenglish these days - watch any Telugu youtuber - 8 /10 words of English. This is exactly how a language begins to lose its luster and eventually its identity. We seem irresponsible in preserving the glory of తెలుగు.
As a Telugu Person we never fight for language and be feel proud that Telugu has more Samskrutham words . Which is older is never a point as we all are Indians
@@hemantnaidu deene pichi antaru, Telugu Sanskrit dialect ahh?? Telugu veru Sanskrit veru Sanskrit,hindi,latin,greek etc oka family how are you? meeru ela vunnaru(Telugu) aap kaise ho(hindi) kadamasi(Sanskrit) kaip laikaisi(Lithuanian) quidagis(latin) where are you from nuvu ekkada nunchi vachavu aap kaha se ho(hindi) bavan kutaha asti(Sanskrit) iš kurtu esi(Lithuanian) who is your son? nee koduku evaru(Telugu) aapka beta kaun hai(hindi) kaha tava sunu/putra(Sanskrit) kas tava sunus(Lithuanian)
Tamil was made by Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva had given Rishi Agasti Tamil to spread in southern part of India .But before it Sanskrit is the language of Shiva and all the Hindu God, Godess, Deities . Vedas, Puranas,Geeta(It had first told by Lord Krishna in Sanskrit not in Shiva Tandava Stotram had been sung by Ravan in Sanskrit not in Tamil.Ravan also proves that Sanskrit is the older than Tamil.🤗🤗I am from Odisha .Also in "Odia" , my mother tongue 70% words are directly from Deva Bhasha Sanskrit and other 30% words had made from destroying Sanskrit and local .🤗🤗
As a tamilian I agree 100% with Abhijit sir, our ancestors are probably the first group of tribes who are smart enough to set aside there difference and came together for collective good, but here we are in 21st century fighting over the silly questions like which is older language which skin color is superior. And most importantly Tamil people don't understand how much Sanskrit is part of ancient Tamil history, stupid politicians try to destroy Sanskrit's role in Tamil history, when Tamil people trading across ocean they using Sanskrit to communicate. Tamil people might also contributed to Sanskrit literature, for example as old as Rigveda itself Srikant Tailageri identify couple of Tamil risis. And about the Tamil vs Telugu or Malayalam and Kannada for that matter there is no point in history our ancestors looked each other as different people, these divisions based on language is just plain idiotic.
Yes I am from northeast many people ignore us or call us Chinese and all but I know my ancestors were Hindus and they were part of Bharat and fought and died for this land and culture
i am central indian but i think tamil is old because, sanskrit is very advanced language with 4000 grammar laws,46 alphabets.... so no civilization can make such language in first time
@@qawsedrftg135 Bro, I agree that we should not fight for which language is older because both are Indian. But your logic may be wrong for dating the origin of language because any language neither Tamizh nor Sanskrit appeared immediately, they both evolved in the couse of time of 1000s years and how you knew that tamizh doesn't have advanced grammar. And if itst true that Sanskrit is advanced then one logic could be that it came first thats why it got time to evolve more and that's why it is advanced. You are patronizing Tamizh. Every Indian language is our Civilizational Heritage either its Kashmiri,Punjabi,Tulu,Meiti,Assamese,Sinhalese or Malayalam.
100% agree. Linguistic movements in Southern India has political motives & they are weakening our own history, culture, traditions etc. Eg. Dravid movement has destroyed Tamil more than one could imagine. TholKapyam has more letters than current Tamil language & why not revive them if you feel pride of Tamil? Same goes for Telugu, though the unused letters are 4 to 5 only
@@varungk3388 The main reason why we can't agree to the past claims because, most of them were pubkished and researched during the british era, when indians had no power.
As per my research and understanding now, Samskritam is probably not the oldest but it is the most advanced language. After talking to some linguists who happen to be South Indian and I myself am, they have said that Tamil cannot hold a candle to Sanskrit. There is just no competition there. Tamil has around 1000 words borrowed from Sanskrit. As per my hypothesis, all Indian languages differing by geography were tribal type languages, and after Vedic civilization sprouted after Manu in the Saraswati area, Sanskrit spread to all parts of India and integrated those vernacular local languages. Agasthya Muni is said to be largely responsible for integrating tribals from Kerala and TN into the Hindu fold by including many in Varna system and merging Gods and languages. If you listen to Australian aborigines talk, you will find similarities with Tamil. So eventually truth is truth, and our ego has to bow down to it. Some south Indian political parties keep fanning this ego for political gain only. Actually lot of present day south Indians have migrated from North only thousands of years ago.
Yes & thats logical. More the diversity the less likely to be unity in such situation. Attacks happening on Hindus not just in India but also outside India is because it is hard for hindus to become united like other religions. Are you aware of hindus situation in delhi? the kidnapping of underage boy & torture.
Totally wrong about Tamizh: Etymology of sangam: The word "Sangam" is derived from the Tamil word "Sangku" which means conch shell. * Meaning: It primarily refers to a group or assembly, especially a gathering of poets. Etymology of kappiyam: Kappu: One possible origin is from the Tamil word "Kappu" (காப்பு), which means protection, guarding, or preservation. This suggests that a "Kappiyam" is a work that protects or preserves cultural values, historical events, or the teachings of ancient sages.
If we look at Telugu most of the words are directly taken from Sanskrit with a vowel sound ending this is the beauty of Telugu every word ends with a vowel sound.. This may be developed from Sanskrit for poems etc, because I find Telugu to be more suitable for poems and songs etc than other languages in my view only don't get offended. Just end every word of your language with a vowel sound you will notice how better it is for poems and other litrature
Radical islamists are trying to urduise our schools wherever they are in majority. I think education system needs to be online from home for every kid and one for whole country.
I am from West Bengal and I predominantly speak Bangla, popularly known as Bengali (also spoken in Bangladesh). Bangla hails directly from Sanskrit and there are so many original Sanskrit pronunciations and even original Sanskrit words in my native tongue! This makes me feel so proud! At the same time, it doesn't mean I wouldn't have loved my native tongue had it not have such a dominant Sanskrit influence! Sanskrit is Bharatiya, just like Bangla or Tamil or Telugu! Why this division and competition among Bharatiyas ? Be it Tamil or Telugu or Hindi or Bangla, every single language is ultimately Indian! That should be a point of common pride and unity, isn't it ? Why this pointless arguing and fighting over whose language is older or better! This is so silly and childish!
@@achieved81u Prakrita itself derived from Sanskrit , the Dhatu , Kriya it's all same. That's why Bangla and all languages that derived from Prakrita has So much common with Sanskrit
@@achieved81u prakrit is also derived from archaic vedic sanskrit ...There are two types of Sanskrit - Archaic Vedic Sanskrit (earliest sanskrit atleast 5000 years old linguistically ) which transformed prakrit which is also indo iranian aryan language & Classical Sanskrit (2200 years old)...And Bangla (my mother language) has been derived from classical Sanskrit & magadhi prakrit...
When someone say "sanskrit" Tamilans starts to bombard with, tamil is first, we rule you, our language is king etc.... Those who say tamil is superior needs to know that the mighty cholas were interested in sanskrit than tamil they spread sanskrit scriptures and knowledge throughout southeast Asia, not tamil.
Mr Abhijit I have been watching your content for a while now and I must say you hit the nail in the coffin with this one. Enough of division and start uniting under one language and one nation. Don't get me wrong but India is a country with so many languages and it's good that we keep them going as well but always stand united no matter what. Keep posting and really looking forward to your upcoming content!
Telugu people are logical beings!! We don't fight for some trophy. instead we fight for Unity!! Unless New evidence comes, for now, Hard evidence according to science that we all accept blindly, we need to accept Telugu as Oldest FOR NOW!!! Dig deeper into our history to say otherwise!
That is true for most part, but Telugus were the first ones to form a linguistic state and also separated from each other despite being Telugu on both sides. That doesn't show we are very logical or striving for unity.
@@pokemonitishere202 lol. We can't easily sacrifice our language to an indo European language. Making proud your language is in your wish. But, I can 💯 sure thamizh is older than Sanskrit. And it must be the first language of India. Both keezhadi & Sindhu signages are matching. And lot more coming very soon
There is a mention of people from Andhra Telugu Lands, who got a bit of Brownish Teeth in Kurukshethra War, reason might be due to the comparatively high levels of Flourine in Water in this part of Country. This clearly shows that, we are bonded for ages and moreover 'Brahui' of Balochistan is close to South Indian Linguistics. All India is same and don't fall for this British construct Aryan-Dravidian divide.
I agree with you sir .. because of this fight among ourselves we are not able to come to a conclusion which language should be our national language. Because of this English have kind of become our common language of communication. For me one of the Indian language should be made national language and should be taught throughout India. I just don't want English to earn that place in India.
@@achieved81u so why use English?????🤣🤣 Matlab khud ke Desh se ek language communication ke liye select karna paap hai Lekin angrejon ka language use karna proud hai.
@@nayanjyotidas4676 you don't understand his mother tongue . Then you blame us. That it should be sankrit the national language not Hindi . We need to relearn and reimagine Bharat. And the system made in the way to learn english. We like Sanskrit.
@@ЯсвантхТеджа I am a student of Kendriya Vidyalaya I have studied Hindi and Sanskrit till class 8 and in class 9 I had select for Sanskrit I love and respect my Sanskrit language. I want to say one thing, we are still studying in the British education system. Sad but true
@@nayanjyotidas4676 yes , we first thing we don't learn any Indian language in depth because there is no use for maths and science and movies and etc which i smandortory to learn an Indian . We don't have a typing mechanism for Indian language and inscript developed by. Indian govt is shit 🤮🤮 which is of no use and waste of resources inscript which is practically useless . How can we expect to change for the entire system in India if Indian can't type their own language in. Digital we don't use paper as much as we once used. So we need digital writing . And further making the English dominance .
@@mangojuice6869 Approved by Mango juice, lol. I don't know whether if it true or not but I hate the way you Tamil people are over obsessed with your language. You TN people are having Chennai as capital city, the name of which is derived from Telugu name "Chennapatnam" named after Telugu person "Chennappa Nayakudu". You people opposed Telugu when it was chosen as one of the optional subject in curriculum of a school. Give some respect, there are many Telugu people whose ancestors settled there in TN centuries ago. Btw, what's your actual name? Let me see if it is Sanskrit rooted or Tamil rooted?
@@mangojuice6869 If you are not Tamilian then who are you? Why are you so obsessed with the language then? I see most of your comments are related to the language issue and your subscriptions are of Tamil Yt channels mostly. What's your actual name?
@@mangojuice6869 I knew that lol Yes, Tirumala and Tirupati are Tamil names and that's why you see hardly any Telugu person disrespect Tamil unlike Tamilans. I got it now lol since you grew up there in TN, this Virus of language obsession has infected you.
Abhijit sir got really pissed on this one 😂😂. And I agree stop fighting guys. I am from northeast and we already lost 5 states to missionaries thanks to this regionalism and now this 2 left are also being filled by Bangladeshi and missionaries
I'm from kerala,our language Malayalam is a mix of Sanskrit and Tamil. everyone in the world is proud of their language and culture ,but i have seen that many tamils are blind devotees of their culture and language,they usually exaggerate it to the level that everything other than tamil stuff is not worthwhile or valuable.eventhough our language are very similar,they usually act that their language is superior to everyone else.there r many incidents in which the malayalis(keralites) gets attaked in tamilnadu.their politicians and film industry are using this Dravidian supremacy as an intoxicating tool for their power.
A kannada speaking guy here..... I am glad people of our state do not have such hollow pride over language.... Maybe bcz kannada, Karnataka is highly influenced by Hindu saints, gurus, mathas, adhyatma and our vachanakaras are jewel in karnataka history.... We are very much proud of being bharatiya anytime....
@@HARRY-xz1hf commanilty as for as language concerned is Sanskrit. So let's make Sanskrit as India's national language. Commonality as for as culture is Hindu. Where respect everyone including guest, that is Atithi devobhava. So let us accept one language and one culture that is Sanskrit and Hindu which is common in entire India and involve every Indian to get their pride.
I used to think the same about Kannadigas. But hate for non Kannada speakersnis rising. I am a Telugu person and got beaten up in Bangalore for speaking in Telugu. This was in 2010-11. One of my tooth fell off because of that. And lot of bruises on my face. If course I forgave them for that. But looks like as time went on, people are more and more linguistic fundamentalist than ever before. Almost like Tamils were. I know one experience like this doesn't downgrade my view on Kannadigas, but everyday I see the so called accommodating Kannadigas are becoming fewer and fewer. This is not good for India.
Identity crisis also started in Karnataka influenced by tamilian but sadly some telugu people don't know to write in telugu after it revolution stared from 2000onwards we found this issue and fighting behalf of Telugu asithava porata samithi TAPS but no one recognise our efforts
just love and speak language of your place ,I think most of indian languages are connected with Sanskrit,I find lot of common words in most languages of india including Kannada(my mother tongue). Tq for coverage of this topic
Bro but I fear kannada is ignored. As Karnataka gateway to south Was protected by pulakeshi,veera balalraya, vijaynagaras, chalukya and many more Know one talk Abt they protected south culture and knowledge Now they say we are 1st only we Being monopoly is not that grreat Equality leads to form great further nation🙏
guruji there was this stupid fellow who was saying ''sanskrit is anti india'' and that ''tamil is older than sanskrit and sanskrit is language of outsiders'' and ofc he was a person from south india i tried explaining him the fact that there is no advantage in fighting , both are all our cultural identities and it doesnt matter which one is older but he didnt stop and then i realized how much influence these local parties have on the people on the people of south especially, lol he even was saying that all the vedas are wrong, and only true thing is tamil culture ! MERA DIMAAG GHUMA--- I GAVE HIM PROOFS AND YOUR VIDEO REFERENCES HE SAID YOU ARE A DISTORTED HISTORIAN and AGAINST SOUTH PEOPLE LOL😂, WHAT A COMEDY USKI JAGAH DIKHAA DI MAINE
yoo i have met a few people of south in my city non of them is radical pritty chill guys but when it comes to language they start dancing like some old as tribe to prove the dominance over hindi very funny to see them and i just keep my mouth shut
@@epedso4417 my bruh you are so so true here...... lol i have many great tamil friends, they are cultured, i love this part of them but when it comes to language, they instantly becomes furious lol, i have seen this so many times, have to keep my mouth shut, dont wanna ruin the relationship (kuch ladkiyan hain na lol😂😂)
I am telugu but I don't care about the age / where it descends from ...a norml sentence in telugu is a honey for me , for me Sanskrit is persnlly a language of vibrations.. i can feel the postive vibes whn i recite Sanskrit mantras ..
I feel Telugu has vibrations & flow like honey. Reciting Telugu poems is 100 times easier than far far complex Sanskrit. It's the positivity & simplicity of Telugu ❤️
Small correction if I may suggest- we need not care to fight (especially with fanatics) but we MUST and should care to know the antiquity, richness, depth and intricacies of our language. The don't care attitude has what made is do sublime that we take no pride of our mother tongue...even pravachanams these days are in Tenglish.
Viewers : sir which is old Tamil or Telugu ? Abhijit sir : so u have chosen death , Tamil era known as Sangam era , the word Sangam is itself Derived from Sanskrit , u got ur Answer . BOOM. Abhijit sir is real Chad , 🤣🙏 huge respect for sir Chavda.
@@anuragkulkarni2929 no way 😂.... Dravidian phonetic there is no "Sa " there's is only cha.. This clearly evident in today malayalam language... And chankam is more controversial to tamil and sanskrit... If you are so bothered tamil has its alternate word mentioned in the literature itself kodal.. I don't mind using sankrit but claiming tamil depends on sanskrit is utter bullshit tamil is clearly independent classical language which can exclude indo European language influences both by lexicon and phonetic
Sanskritam is the language of DNA and quantum vibration of the universe. Sanskritam is the only eternal language of the world. 54 alphabets of sanskrit came from shriyantra geometry. Sanskrit sounds came from Damaru of lord Shiva. They are primordial sounds of the universe.
I am really tired of people claiming their language to be older. And there are another group of gadhas who fight because of their caste like some Rajputs-Gujjars always fight(both claim that they are the original kshatriya). Edit: And people have started to fight even in the comments. Why can't both Rajputs ans Gujjars be kshatriyas? Rajputs have bravely defended Desh and Dharm multiple times, many generations of Rajputs sacrificed their lives to protect our civilization, having said that i can't respect someone like Maan Singh a Rajput, he fought against the great Rajput King Maharana Pratap. Also there were so many Gujjars in the army of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, they sacrificed their lives for our civilization too. For me they both were Kshatriyas because they fit into the definition of Kashtriya as per Bhagwat Geeta.
yes but both came from outside, there is no such thing as rajput gujjar in hinduism, indo aryans were from ganga valley region, ram krishan, pandav, chandragupta maurya, all were from ganga valley region
Rajputra is the correct word for khastriyas and who told that rajput is a caste. the alliance of various khastriya houses known as rajputs, the confideration first used to defeat mughal babur by maharana sanga.
People fight for language only in south India. It doesn't happen in north India. I have never seen it. But the rajput and gujjar thing is obviously there in north India as well. They are just dumb.
I am Marathi i can understand some Tamil, Telugu, and Sanskrit words without learning them and I also know that our languages originate from Shiva Sutra. Our people learnt Hindi without even knowing it, here in Maharashtra.
@@GautamGM kemke gujarati ane marathi aa bane bhasha vedic sanskritmathi ave che. also they are geographically close, which leads to a lot of influence between the two.
தொல்காப்பியம் = தொல்(தொன்மை)+காப்பு(காப்பாற்று)+இயம்(இயம்புதல்) என்று முச்சொற்களாகப் பிரித்துப் பொருள் கொள்ள வேண்டும். தொன்மை, காகாப்பாற்று, இயம்புதல் அனைத்தும் தமிழ் சொற்கள். தொன்மையைக் காத்து இயம்புவது என்று பொருள் பெறும்
I believe in nihilism and so when I see people fighting about things that doesn't really help our environment, I just ignore them and concentrate on the actual real problems that I, personally can solve to make our world a better place.
do you even know what a nihilist/anarchist is? they are not fighting for a better world. mullas and padres are nihilists when compared to hindus, buddhists, sikhs, shintos, etc. you are literally fighting for your own destruction if we take your comment seriously!
@@darkprince2490 bruh wtf,,,, i obviously know about them, have read nietzche works..... nihilists believe in nothingness lol they dont have any morals, logic etc
Well said, I was reading "Lords of the Deccan", a historical book and learnt the Chalukyas & Rastrakutas made Sankrit their court language. This slowly merged into Kannada and hybrid Kannada became the court language at some point. There is evidence, so we know, it's good to know. Can't speculate and fight over languages when English words are now part of most Indian languages now 😊
That's not true. Rastrakutas chalukyas kadambas were all used hale kanadda which is bit more complex than present kannada and sanskrit was only used for writing slokas and poems
@@nikhilhegde43 i am sorry but hale kannada had more sanskrit words. Hence it was more difficult to understand.. reformed kannada is a bit eased and has less sanskrit words.
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I am a kannadiga and even in my state there are few mindless kannada people fighting over hindi and other indian languages. I mean I don’t understand how their worthless lives will change by proving their language is superior? You still have to work to earn your daily bread.
@@anuragkulkarni2929 I'm Tamil but I can understand kannada people fighting over Hindi. If some north Indian is in your mother land then they should respect the native language there.
@@creativethinkers3214 well if they dont respect kannada is a total different thing. What bothers me is some goons go to pubs and bars and demand to play only kannada songs. Or paint black ok hindi writings in public spaces. These thinhs are unnecessary and politically motivated.
@@anuragkulkarni2929 Yeah it is happenning in Tamilnadu too. There are many many north Indians in Chennai and thank God tbh most of them learned Tamil.
To those who really want a definite answer to the question which is the oldest Indian language I have a suggestion. Please invest all your money and invent a time machine. Travel all across India and let us know. Don't forget to bring some proof. Or just admit that we don't know and that it truely does not matter. My life as a tamilian is not affected by this question. Let alone my self-confidence.
As tamizhan I have few suggestions. 1. All Indian languages should acknowledge each other, for example instead of studying science, social or maths., etc all official and unofficial(if that is even possible for unofficial ones) Indian languages needs to be brought into the educational systems in all states. 2. Stop hindi imposition In all Indian states 3. ASK HINDI PEOPLE TO STOP FAKELY SHOWING OFF HINDI AS NATIONAL LANGUAGE.
Annachi who is imposing tamil on whom??? You guys do it non others As a fellow keralite i can see this... You guys think Malayalam is derivative of tamils which is utter nonsense..... 70%of our words are Sanskrit (pure) and more percentage with small differences.. Like nayanam bhagavataam.. Pançhannyam
Who said you should talk our language only? Tamils or Hindis? Me personally I would gladly learn Malayalam, Telugu and Kannada if I could get a chance since this could help us build bridges between states and all this three languages are related to tamil that's is also one of reasons for me to wanting to learn these languages. Do you know why problem really came? That's because you accepted Sanskrit as if that is only option to create a new language. Go and check your education system, is tamil there as a subject for you? Go north and check. does anybody knows anything about south? Central Government is only been ruled by northerners excluding Abdul Kalam And he didn't go as simple as that, you would know that if you have minimum knowledge of science. And still you are supporting northerners.
@@jishamp7539 and stop this prejudice thinking based on meeting few people if you even really met tamil people. STOP VILLIFYING US. IF YOU WANT TO VILLIFY SOMEONE GO VILLIFY SOMEONE WITH ACTUAL AUTORITARIAN MIND SET.
Please be clear southern part of India and Tamil Nadu is totally different sir I am from Telangana I don't know what is Dravidian moment nor do my parents 🙏 our state issue is jobs religion and underdevelopment ... language is least priority we don't care if our language is oldest or not like you said we are one civilization
@@universelover8595 that's what when you can differentiate up Bihar Maharashtra Punjab gujarat bengal but when it comes to southern states everyone uses word south india or southern part why ? .agree Tamil language is an emotion for most tamilian and rest of India may mock it but thats how you guys have retained the culture no youtuber will applaud that they will drag Dravidian moment is the reason which is not reality
@@greatsir43 I am not Tamil but still say they have stood out in retaining their culture more than any part of India ... Dravidian movement is only one negative aspect that they have
As a telugu I would like to say to telugu people first to love and respect their mother tongue. In English medium schools it is prohibited to talk in telugu. This is our unfortunate state. Why to fight about its age.
Many Telugus are under false assumption that Telugu came from Sanskrit & Telugu has 70% sanskrit words. No it's entirety false. Telugu is a Dravidian language & it doesn't have any relation with Sanskrit. Just like modern day English influenced all indian languages, sanskrit influenced Telugu a little. Today, Telugu has mostly English words than sanskrit or urdu words. Does that mean Telugu came from English now? Reality is Sanskrit stole so many Telugu words & later reintroduced them into other languages as it's own original words using ah-aha format manipulating original Telugu words. Examples: Telugu ones are original here Pusthekamma(Tel) - pusthakam(sans)- Book Pandithudu - panditha- scholar Sunna - shunyam - zero Bandi - bandhee - vehicle Koppu/kopparam - gopuram - pinnacle Praathadhanam - prayam - oldness and many more Pure Telugu is a lot lot sweeter, easier than Sanskrirt mixed Telugu. Tell me a Sanskrit word & I'll tell you a pure TELUGU 🔥 word for it. Moreover Telugu can stand independently on its own without any language influence. We don't need any Sanskrit or hindi to unite us. Let's be united, protect & respect our Unity in Diversity. Jai Telugu thalli🔥✊ Bharath mathaku jejelu ❣️
@UCv-SWmz3-zv-lMcVRZ1Jtfw wrong. jainas and buddhist have the same gods as hindus. they have their own versions of ramayana, etc. carvaka just meant epicurean/opportunist (live for the day) mentality. it was never a real Darshana. And it certainly was not ideological atheism. You got hoodwinked by a missionary indologist.
I'm from TN. Anybody older than Tamil, we accept that. But, whenever going through original solid record, we not find what we expected. Tamil 560 bc name written on clay pot in keelady found. But achichanallur burial site pots, are 3000 years old. We searched about sadharvana dynasty, coins are oneside prakit writings & another side Tamil writings, then what we want to decide. It's not few epigraphical writings , more than 55000 epigraphical stone found in India for tamil. Even bc era, when was Tamil speaking south, there was many launguage in north. If Simply saying Sanskrit only the language, then what about Asokan brahmi & pali? We had great trade deal with north also, yes there were different languages in north. Might be lot, don't had written format. Written format is different. Speaking is different. Just wait for lot of excavation. Tamil has lot Sanskrit word, after 2nd century. But, read thirukkural, puranaanuru, before sangam period writings, where is the Sanskrit?. Today modern Tamil don't have real or pure or sangam Tamils words. Today, Tamil has Sanskrit, Telugu, Kannada, few Europe words, Arab words also due to trade, turkey & brahmin arrivals. Even Tamil people cannot understand easily sangam period Tamil due to Grammers & purity. Old Grammers are very critical. You can see soild proof evidence 560 years old carbon dated writings on pot by harward, in keelady arunkaatchiyagam.1000 Bc Athichanallur burial site excavation in Austria museum. Correspondent living site of athichanallur, still not found. Keelady excavation fully not finished. Bending to excavate, lot of places like kodumanal, athiraipakkam, korkkai port, aay port, boombukar, Kaveri poombattinam, arikka medu port city. Still, there are lot of report on bendings by asi. If, Sanskrit is old, we accept & welcome by ever TN. Solid evidence, where??? When we are going to checking the solid evidence of Sanskrit, it's not exceeding 1900 old (Rajasthan, Gujarat epigraphical). It's not old from Asokan brahmin. We suspect, that Sanskrit writing scripts came from Asokan Brahmi. Might be, can be Sanskrit on speaking & communication level. But, if we are going in that way, even BC era more than 100 writing less, speaking language might be exist. Problem is Sanskrit how much old it is, that not a problem. Saying only It is a mother of all language, only the problem.. then we want say all are fake & over creation by Sanskrit lovers & fans.
Well said. It's not about fighting. As per archeological evidence, Tamil is the oldest Indian language. If somebody proves other languages based on evidence, we will accept.
You are just blind Tamil lover who has this Tamil supremacy attitude.What sir has told is facts.Facts are facts.Facts do not care about your emotions and feelings.
The Tamil language is recognized as the oldest language in the world and it is the oldest language of the Dravidian family. This language had a presence even around 5,000 years ago. According to a survey, 1863 newspapers are published in the Tamil language only every day. At present, the number of speakers of Tamil language is around 7.7 crores. This language is spoken in India, Sri Lanka, Singapore and Malaysia.
@narutoanime9962what is hinduism? Don't westernise our dharma we have no religion we dharmic, sanatan dharm means eternal it us Vedic dharma and also nature worship it is more than 8090+ whole world saya Sanskrit is oldest language beacuse of rigved slide found on Iraq
Yes I am a bengali ,and I could easily grab Hindi and Sanskrit ..I never studied oriya and Assamese but can understand them easily ..but I studied French and find it pretty different ...it is mostly similarly with German or Spanish and obviously English ...but European languages and Indian are different...
As a Gujarati it's find Kannada a bit understanding I don't know how 😅😂 BTW I want Sanskrit as our one and national language while preserving all other
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Tamil is no doubt born from Sanskrit. Because legend says it's agastya sage is father of Tamil civilization and he came from north and he carried Sanskrit to south. But there is a possibility that there might be an another language in south before agastya came to south.
What is the first language of the world? It can be said in one sentence. If the root words of all languages are found in those languages, then it is the first language of the world. That is one and only Tamizh
Odia is not "sanskritized" because it is itself a descendant of archaic vedic sanskrit. A sanskritized language would be Telugu or Kannada, which have no relation to sanskrit but absorbed its vocabulary.
Fun fact is there is line in Mahabharata saying that telugu people fought sahadev in rajasuya yagam of yudhistira . As they was mis treated they joined aliance with kouravas in kurukshetra . There is clear mention of name Andhra Desham in vyasa bharatha
Namasthe Sir🙏🏻 It also mentioned in Vishnu sahasranamam that "CHANOOR ANDHRA NISHUDHANAH" which means Krishna defeated a wrestler named CHANOOR who hails from Andhra region where Telugu is the native language... Thus proving that Telugu has been spoken since the time of Dwpara yuga... Radhe 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Radhe..🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Telugu is spoken in presnt Andhra. Not in Dvapar yugam. In dvapar yugam, sanskrit was spoken in Andhra with a little regional variation. Even the word Andhra Pradesh itself is a sanskrit word. No hate- just wanted to make it clear that whenever you read Andhra in ancient history, it only means sanskrit andhra.
@@archanasai1811 but the "80%" all have native telugu equivalents. If someone started to speak a blend of English and Telugu, will it mean 50% of Telugu is english?
There's a saying in software programming : "(Programming) Language Wars generate more HEAT than LIGHT." Whether one uses C or Java or XYZ doesn't matter as long as one can make *good software* in it. Common advice by experts is "Choose whatever programming language is best suited for the purpose without wasting time and energy in fruitless comparisons". So what separates Programming languages from Human languages : Utility vs Culture, Knowledge, Wisdom. Indian languages carry a wealth of Culture and Values of our land that is the critical part that needs to be passed on to Future Generations. This is the most powerful reason for continuing our indigenous languages. This *Light* of Wisdom, Knowledge and Culture will disappear in the *Heat* of Language Wars. Instead we need to spread the knowledge among Indian languages by translating the wealth of knowledge and wisdom. This will add to our culture and make it even more rich!! 🙏🙏🙏
The sad part is some of the people dont believe we are part of one family, they think they speak different languages and just look a little different they are other people, they are forgetting that geographic condition is also responsible for looks and may other things, i have just one word for them " racist and separatists people"
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I have seen in Maharashtra, Mumbai to be precise, that some Maharashtrians treat people who speak Hindi language as disrespect to Maharashtra. It feels so sick to me. It feels like diversity which was strength of India, now has become problem. Speaking related to Maharashtra only here. Don't know if it happens in some other states as well.
U should respect native culture and language. Its not like Marathi is difficult to learn, u should learn at least basic. When we come to north we talk in Hindi not in our language.
Well as a marathi I support them. Cz Maharashtra is facing highest immigrants from other states. And this is affecting our jobs, environment caring capacities, all good facilities which our ancestors fought till death and now being used by others. At some level its fine but out of top 5, 3 cities of india facing highest migration are from Maharashtra. This is taking rights os our poor marathi ppl cz outsiders are occupying every unskilled job also. Where I always support our marathi. High jobs need talent anyone can come but other unskilled jobs marathis should be 1st always. Don't worry soon we will demand reservation for marathi at unskilled jobs.
How much do you care about Marathi though? I know people who have come from outside of Maharashtra that don't bother to learn Marathi and then there are other who stay here for 2 months and speak decent Marathi. Do you know why? They respect the culture and the language. I'm pretty sure you won't put up the same kind of demand if you were to move to a foreign country. You won't ask Germans to speak Hindi, would you? Or would you do that to Americans or the brits? Have some respect for the native culture that you are moving. It's called basic empathy. Try to go to Gujrat or somewhere else in the south and give the same argument, you'll be beaten down. I as a Maharashtrian respect North Indian culture, but then that should be mutual right? A culture is born from the language, so to understand the culture you have to bother with the language.
One should learn the local language for better integration and participation in the social fabric of the given place. The Marathi people are irked because outsiders don't try to learn the local language even after staying for decades in Maharashtra. I am a Marathi and i speak Hindi and Tamil fluently ( i worked in both north and south India). Jaisa desh waisa vesh, simple. And TBH people who can read and write Hindi can read and write Marathi without much difficulty. All it takes is some effort.
@LaxCan you explain how you came to this genius conclusion in history? if I talk about you, it doesn't mean you are older than me. Only because of people like fight on language happens.
I am proud to be a Tamil, there is no standard to measure Tamil A sentence in Tamil with vowels and consonants is proof. Thank God for making me a Tamilian.
Old or older is not the issue. Telugus never fought for their language being branded old or not. There are efforts in the country to decolonize the country. But as well there a trend to colonize the country with Hindi. Hindi does not fall into the category of ancient language of the country and is very young langusge born in 8 century AD. It is a language born out of fusion between persian, Arabic and Turkish languages with Sanskrit. Govt should try to Sansktize the country so that there is no dispute. We are forced to remember the names of schemes and institutions which we do not understand. Every TV communication either though ministers or officials is coming only in Hindi with Hindi numerals god knows what they are. So half the country is blind and deaf about the news which government wants people to know. Stop this nonscense.
FYI- 1)Bhattiprolu inscription wer in prakrit written using script very closely resemble to tamil brahmi, like hindi written in english/roman alphabet. 2) if telugu inscription dated to 400BC, then why next oldest telugu inscription dated to 575CE( GAP OF 900 YEARS?) Kalamalla copper plate. 3) And these oldest telugu inscription mention, they wer renati chola descent from tamil Karikala Cholan 4) tamil inscription not just found in one place , there are atleast 100 tamil inscription from 500BC-300CE in all over tamil nadu and srilanka. 5)tamil script even found in oman,thailand and egypt dated 200BC-100CE. 6) tamil brahmi became widespread in 300BC itself,then how long in back it would have taken to reach wide spread education reaching outside country? 7) hathigumpa inscription in orrisa 150BC mentioned "tamil confedaration" 8) ashoka inscription mentioned chera,chola,pandiya and sathyaputra who wer tamil kings. Telugu people dont have antiquity thats can predate to bronze/iron age like tamil or sanskrit. So theh dont have interest in or proof to show there language is older. Wer tamil and sanskrit have many fact to debate side by side which is older.
Because Telugus lost many evidences due to invasions & tamil Nadu was protected by water three sides & Andhra & Karnataka from North side & hence have many inscriptions preserved. Inscriptions doesn't decide the age of a Language. Language might be older than that inscription. Hope you understand. Just like indus valley don't have as much preserved antiques as Persians.
i really wanna appreciate the effort u put in your research, but sadly Sangam is a sumerian word!!. The root 'saka' is present in archaic tamil - Sumerian word 'saGkam' refers to the same meaning ‘gathering’
Telugu and Sanskrit dont have similar words, the words in Telugu are borrowings from Sanskrit. Much like we borrow english words for a lot of things in our native tongues.
This is what happened during the British era they divide us and made us fight ourselves and took over our country, but now we are doing this ourselves.
We are fighting for lack of respect. As long as we are respected and given our due place we know that Indian language fabric is interwoven. We Telugus feel we and our language is not given due recognition. It’s not political or separatist and not even anger. We need our space akin to how India and Indian contributions are ignored by the world, our Telugu contributions are largely ignored by historians. Having said that British education and this unnatural division of states based on language has done a great disservice to Indian languages as most of us could speak more than their mother tongue even the common man in the pre colonial era. We should start recognising this Indian language fabric as one with different coloured threads and stop using state specific identities to people and events as there were no modern states when these events happened.
True. Telugu being the second most spoken language in South India, it hasn't got much recognition compared with Tamil. We Telugites are still referred as Madrasis by North Indians.
@@cvs2k_6 telugu lacks antiquity and there's is still no clarity on which language tree it belong.... Some claims it belong to dravidian language family and some argue it comes from sanskrit.... First you teluguite should have clarity 😂...first
@@cvs2k_6 i am from North...madrasi means...we really don't know...we think madrasi means South... pls tell me...nd i have heard Telugu is the sweetest language...will try to learn...nd one more thing I want to tell...Hindi is not our mother tongue...but our second language n official language of north
@@devirani6347 It's recorded everywhere that Telugu is a south central Dravidian language. But the people lacks that clarity due to over affection with sanskrit & it's propaganda written in Telugu.
Keezhadi Tamil Brahmi inscription belongs to 6th century BCE. It is archeology proved through Carbon dating.Hence even evidence wise Tamil is older than Telugu
We have to worry more about if the Indian languages will continue into future or not!! Parents and schools are turning away from mother tongue to English. Higher education esp in English is a fact. As English education captures the market what's the future like? English is taking over faster with every passing year esp with penetration of internet into even faraway villages. How many generations (3-5-8?) before English overtakes every other native Indian language??
Sumerian words that are still in use in Kannada Sumerians (5500 BCE - 1800 BCE) & Akkadians (2400 BCE ) called the people of Indus/Harrapan (3300 BCE - 1300 BCE) as Meluhha, MeluKhkha or MeluhhaKi. The word MeluKhkha literally means people of high lands and is just as same as KarNata Mele = Higher = Kar Akha/Ki = Country = Nata Malla in Kannada also means Great. Many Kannada kings had title with Malla like: JagadekaMalla, TribhuvanaMalla (Vikramaditya), Trailokyamalla/Ahavamalla (Someshwara) KarNata Kingdom who ruled Nepal, Bihar, UP called themselves as MallaVamshi (Great Clan) of KarNata. Even today in Karnataka names like MallAmma, MallAnna, Mallesha are very common. Many historians, Linguists, Philologists now claim that the Root of Dravidian/Kannada language is connected with Sumero-Dravidian languages. One of the most remarkable things about Kannada is, Sumerian words are not only found in earlier Kannada (haLeGannada, NaduGannada) but are still in use even in today's Kannada (HosaGannada). Sumerians/Akkadians both record trades with Indus/Harrappan people with items names having names of Kannada origin or connected with Kannada. Like, Agar[a/u] : Fragrance Wood Oil - SandleWood eLLu : Sesame - eLLu Bison/Buffalos Horns - KA is still famous for KadEmme (Wild Buffallo/Bisons) Some Sumerian words that are still in use in Kannada Ri - Respectable / elderly person (Ree - to elders, verbs suffixed with ree [Verb+Ree] - for elderly person: Madri [Please do], keLri [Please listen]) Bi-ra - Mix (Kannada - Bera as in Berasu) Su - do (Madisu, keLisu, torisu) Karu - Black - Kari Nir - Water - Nir Ag - To become (Aagu - become) Ur - Village ( Ur/Uru in Kananda) Sig - Sun Burnt tiles (Sigadi - Fireplace, from Seke - Heat from sun, similar to Shaki/Saki - Sultry due to sun) Bir - Break (Biruku - Break) Sumerian Counting One - Ur/Uru - Or/Ondu Two - Ir - Iru/Eradu Three - Mu - Mu/Muru Four - Na - Nalk[u] Five - A/ia - ay/Ayd[u] Six - as - Aar[u] Ten - Ha - Hatthu With connection of Kannada with Sumerian, Akkadian, Indus civilization there is no doubt that Kannada is one of the longest living languages. Needless to say advent of Sanskrit/Prakrit have done tremendous erosion of culture & history to Kannada in past. Credits: Research by A. Sathasivam M.A., Ph.D. on Dravidian and Sumerian Languages. Other Credits twitter.com/anilkmr_m/stat… jungledragon.com/specie/35218/s… twitter.com/anilkmr_m/stat… @nanminiradio @karnatabala @CMofKarnataka @VinaySodad @sndptw @imanjuvs @Naagashree @Amara_Bengaluru @blhars @nimmakarthick @PLEKarnataka @sanrnsam7 @_adikadhunaga_ @rajanna_rupesh @BelagaviKA @AlurDivya @Kannadastar123 @sudhguruspeaks @gnan007 @umesh_anush @malnadkoos @Rameshgowda_c @KanthaRocky @nesarabettaliya @ajavgal @KNayakas @Chandra_hb77 @AdarshaUm @ShyamSPrasad @teekappa24 @Kannada_Culture @BelagaviKA @NammaKalyana @LakshmeeshaCS #Kannada #KKKPower #KannadaIndus #KannadaSumerian #AntiquityOfKannada
I am tamilan....from Chennai ...even i know ... Sanskrit is older than Tamil....some people use politics to divide tamils from rest of India ...for their personal benefit
When statistical analysis of Tamil language was carried out. According to it, the books from Sangam period and the later Sangam period, the epics and the medieval period literatures, poems by the poets of the modern generation, novels, short stories, Tamilnadu syllabus books,letters, advertisements, words in the Tamil dictionary were taken into account ranging from ancient to modern era. Approximately 2.5 lakh words were taken into account for his statistical research. 1)The first perspective was based on sounds. Vowels and consonants. The vowels had soft and hard sounds. There are 7 hard letters and 5 soft letters. The consonants are divided into three types namely vallinam, mellinam, idayinam. Each type of consonant has 6 letters thus containing 18 of them. So when we look st tholkappiyam's era to present day, the percentage of the vowels and consonants are 44% and 56% respectively. Tholkappiyam is conservatively dated to 300 bce. So since 2300 years, the percentage has been same as is found in statically analysis. This is really surprising! 83% of the letters used in present day Tamil are soft whereas only 17% hard letters are used. So this 83%-17% ratio is being witnessed for over 2300 years. 2) Coming to consonants, there are 3 types. Vallinam, Mellinam and idayinam. Since tholkappiyam's era to present day newspapers, magazines etc the Tamil has used 44% of vallinam consonants, 26% of mellinam consonants and vallinam and mellinam together comprises of 70% of consonants used. The remaining 30% had been idaiyinam. Since 2300 years the same percentage has been maintained! This means that the usage of the sounds in the Tamil language attained stability even before 2300 years, which means that the Tamil language attained classical status even before 2300 years. And as known, for a language to attain a matured state, it takes atleast two millenia. So Tamil can easily be dated to 2500- 3000BCE. Whereas telugu as a language started to develop after the BC era only. And about the bhattiprolu inscription, I've already proved that it's Tamil and not telugu in my other comment of the same video
@@diplocolus1439 What I'm trying to say is tamil had attained a matured/ classical state even before 2300 years. So even if we date tamil's age conservatively, tamil is atleast as old as 2000- 2500BCE as it takes ATLEAST 1000 years for a language to evolve and develop to matured state. Whereas telugu as a language developed and evolved only after the BC era. So if we say telugu is older than Tamil, then there is no bigger foolishness than that
Sad to say that PEOPLE OF INDIA IN ANCIENT and now have not changed an Inch! Regional demarcation and fight of “who is the best” is still existing and this is not a good sign because this will always strengthen the “vultures” who are waiting to rule India once again! Remember! UNITY IS STRENGTH! Jai Hind 🇮🇳 Akhand Bharat Amar Rahe
#askabhijit How do we even put a "birth" date to a language? Isn't it organic evolution? Of course there are periods when we can say there English wasn't spoken and when it was... If we also go more philosophically, how at all do we assign a date to such languages...? It is not that one day a group of people decided to form a new language like a kid's game.... Also, if we are going by date od the oldest inscriptions of a language , what about languages whose people never inscribed ? Or whose script wasn't present?
The two language families have emerged in parallel . There is no way the roots of Sanskrit and Tamil are the same. It is largely possible that both developed in different parts of India. Remember in ancient times the Dandaka forest separated the north from the south so it is not surprising if the two languages evolved in parallel and different to each other. Then at some point in history they started to influence each other and that point in history is itself thousands of years old. So there is no point in bickering about this.
Not corroborated by any science.To make that statement we have to look at spoken language,script,cultural development and stage of urbanization separately.Early Tamil Brahmi script is about 2600 years old after Vedic Sanskrit had changed to classical Sanskrit.The oldest language book in Tamil (Tholkapiyan )is heavily similar to the dharmashastras and the dates of both coincide.,about 2200 years old(first evidence of influence).The oldest dharmashastra ,Manusmriti is however older dating back 2600 years but there is no older Tholkapiyan.There might have been an older spoken language in the area that was absorbed into classical Tamil but that is true of any region in India.Archaelogically too the oldest urbanization in India is in the Indus saraswati river civilization(Ivsc),An evidence at keerhadi actually shows how the oldest Tamil Brahmi script was adapted from theIVSC script after its collapse and when its people had migrated all over India.This coincides with the oldest known urbanization in the area as well(2400 years back )and formation of what is known as the ASI genetic group common in peninsular India.( mixing of IVSC genes and older local genes).IVSC spoken language is unknown but the script,which is a hieroglyph ( symbolic) script used by traders dating back 4000 +yrs was already aware of Sanskrit as an older language along with many others in the area as evidenced by the homonyms used in the symbols(it’s complicated).BTW I come from a neutral state and am studying this out of interest.And I do agree that the fighting has to stop because whatever the chronology there is ample evidence that the Indo Aryan - Dravidian language theory is made up and all ancient Indian languages are infact native to the subcontinent.
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A stone inscription in Modi script (used to write Marathi language), that was unearthed in Thanjavur reveals that the age of Tamil language could date back to more than 10,000 years. Such archaeological evidence provide ample proof to establish the antiquity of Tamil as an ancient language. Discoveries also point out that the first ‘Tamil Sangam’ existed in 8th century BC. Ancient Tamil words are still in use. After elaborate research on western languages, late professor and author Devaneya Pavanar has established that Tamil is the mother of all languages. As a conclusion of his research in Greek, Latin and English, he says words from Tamil have gone on to influence Latin and English languages. Words such as ‘coin’, ‘coffee’ and ‘navy’ are a few examples that have their roots in Tamil language.
I am Telugu but never really cared if my mother tongue is oldest in comparison to other Indian languages we are one civilization
As the conciousness will go down, people will fight for slightest thing..
@@megatron6382 yes that is correct..main provokers are politicians ...if you don't fancy all this they will stick to their basics and work on development otherwise things will go out of control i agree with your point
Yes.. now they are inventing new language called Telangana just to divide people more.. so that they can be rulers for a small sect… politicians will not stop… they will keep dividing people as much as they can so that they can stay in power
We need not at all fight. But it's important to take forward our next generations the antiquity and richness of our language. Telugus are only busy talking in Tenglish these days - watch any Telugu youtuber - 8 /10 words of English. This is exactly how a language begins to lose its luster and eventually its identity. We seem irresponsible in preserving the glory of తెలుగు.
@@Divyakrs అవును
As a Telugu Person we never fight for language and be feel proud that Telugu has more Samskrutham words .
Which is older is never a point as we all are Indians
No, both Telugu words and Sanskrit words should be kept. Telugu words in telugu> Sanskrit words in telugu
@@infinitycubed9195 nope bro, Telugu is a dialect of Sanskrit language, we call Sanskrit as Sanskrutham
@@hemantnaidu deene pichi antaru, Telugu Sanskrit dialect ahh??
Telugu veru Sanskrit veru
Sanskrit,hindi,latin,greek etc oka family
how are you?
meeru ela vunnaru(Telugu)
aap kaise ho(hindi)
kadamasi(Sanskrit)
kaip laikaisi(Lithuanian)
quidagis(latin)
where are you from
nuvu ekkada nunchi vachavu
aap kaha se ho(hindi)
bavan kutaha asti(Sanskrit)
iš kurtu esi(Lithuanian)
who is your son?
nee koduku evaru(Telugu)
aapka beta kaun hai(hindi)
kaha tava sunu/putra(Sanskrit)
kas tava sunus(Lithuanian)
Tamil was made by Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva had given Rishi Agasti Tamil to spread in southern part of India .But before it Sanskrit is the language of Shiva and all the Hindu God, Godess, Deities . Vedas, Puranas,Geeta(It had first told by Lord Krishna in Sanskrit not in Shiva Tandava Stotram had been sung by Ravan in Sanskrit not in Tamil.Ravan also proves that Sanskrit is the older than Tamil.🤗🤗I am from Odisha .Also in "Odia" , my mother tongue 70% words are directly from Deva Bhasha Sanskrit and other 30% words had made from destroying Sanskrit and local .🤗🤗
@@linguaAndthoughts How telugu from Sanskrit(Telugu
As a tamilian I agree 100% with Abhijit sir, our ancestors are probably the first group of tribes who are smart enough to set aside there difference and came together for collective good, but here we are in 21st century fighting over the silly questions like which is older language which skin color is superior. And most importantly Tamil people don't understand how much Sanskrit is part of ancient Tamil history, stupid politicians try to destroy Sanskrit's role in Tamil history, when Tamil people trading across ocean they using Sanskrit to communicate. Tamil people might also contributed to Sanskrit literature, for example as old as Rigveda itself Srikant Tailageri identify couple of Tamil risis. And about the Tamil vs Telugu or Malayalam and Kannada for that matter there is no point in history our ancestors looked each other as different people, these divisions based on language is just plain idiotic.
True brother. ❤️
Fight the enemy.. not our own people. 💔💔💔
Yes I am from northeast many people ignore us or call us Chinese and all but I know my ancestors were Hindus and they were part of Bharat and fought and died for this land and culture
i am central indian but i think tamil is old because, sanskrit is very advanced language with 4000 grammar laws,46 alphabets.... so no civilization can make such language in first time
@@SonofSoma108 areey !!! 😅
@@qawsedrftg135 Bro, I agree that we should not fight for which language is older because both are Indian.
But your logic may be wrong for dating the origin of language because any language neither Tamizh nor Sanskrit appeared immediately, they both evolved in the couse of time of 1000s years and how you knew that tamizh doesn't have advanced grammar.
And if itst true that Sanskrit is advanced then one logic could be that it came first thats why it got time to evolve more and that's why it is advanced.
You are patronizing Tamizh.
Every Indian language is our Civilizational Heritage either its Kashmiri,Punjabi,Tulu,Meiti,Assamese,Sinhalese or Malayalam.
100% agree. Linguistic movements in Southern India has political motives & they are weakening our own history, culture, traditions etc. Eg. Dravid movement has destroyed Tamil more than one could imagine. TholKapyam has more letters than current Tamil language & why not revive them if you feel pride of Tamil? Same goes for Telugu, though the unused letters are 4 to 5 only
What do you mean by letters here?
@Abhijeet Kundu wtf?
@@varungk3388 Nah dude...we need new researches.
@@varungk3388 The main reason why we can't agree to the past claims because, most of them were pubkished and researched during the british era, when indians had no power.
As per my research and understanding now, Samskritam is probably not the oldest but it is the most advanced language. After talking to some linguists who happen to be South Indian and I myself am, they have said that Tamil cannot hold a candle to Sanskrit. There is just no competition there. Tamil has around 1000 words borrowed from Sanskrit. As per my hypothesis, all Indian languages differing by geography were tribal type languages, and after Vedic civilization sprouted after Manu in the Saraswati area, Sanskrit spread to all parts of India and integrated those vernacular local languages. Agasthya Muni is said to be largely responsible for integrating tribals from Kerala and TN into the Hindu fold by including many in Varna system and merging Gods and languages. If you listen to Australian aborigines talk, you will find similarities with Tamil. So eventually truth is truth, and our ego has to bow down to it. Some south Indian political parties keep fanning this ego for political gain only. Actually lot of present day south Indians have migrated from North only thousands of years ago.
I feel bad that today's tamilians truly believe that Dravida is a racial identity but not a geographical one🥲.
True
Due to DMK government
Like DMK literally ruined Tamil in Sri Lanka
@@atrixsauza2068 coz we have made it that way. It started as a geographical identity
Dravida itself a Sanskrit word means south
Sir you nailed it with sangam, kaviyam, etc. There is unity in diversity but sometimes unity goes missing 😂
Yes & thats logical.
More the diversity the less likely to be unity in such situation.
Attacks happening on Hindus not just in India but also outside India is because it is hard for hindus to become united like other religions.
Are you aware of hindus situation in delhi? the kidnapping of underage boy & torture.
Totally wrong about Tamizh:
Etymology of sangam: The word "Sangam" is derived from the Tamil word "Sangku" which means conch shell.
* Meaning: It primarily refers to a group or assembly, especially a gathering of poets.
Etymology of kappiyam:
Kappu: One possible origin is from the Tamil word "Kappu" (காப்பு), which means protection, guarding, or preservation. This suggests that a "Kappiyam" is a work that protects or preserves cultural values, historical events, or the teachings of ancient sages.
@@arivalant5353kaviyam and kappiyam are similar right(tamil and sanskrit)
Yes
If we look at Telugu most of the words are directly taken from Sanskrit with a vowel sound ending this is the beauty of Telugu every word ends with a vowel sound.. This may be developed from Sanskrit for poems etc, because I find Telugu to be more suitable for poems and songs etc than other languages in my view only don't get offended.
Just end every word of your language with a vowel sound you will notice how better it is for poems and other litrature
We kannadigas like to sit and grab popcorns and watch the show “of who’s older”
@@grimsobad8545 Good sense of humor dude..
@@grimsobad8545 bsdk 🤨
Em words asla ekkada sink untadi ra babu Edo cheppestharu Sanskrit kee telugu kee chala teda undi Tamil kannada Malayalam ivvi sink avvutaya gani
Em words asla ekkada sink untadi ra babu Edo cheppestharu Sanskrit kee telugu kee chala teda undi Tamil kannada Malayalam ivvi sink avvutaya gani
I think we should make a language school were we learn basics of different languages
its already there and its call sanskrit
There is a govt app I don't remember the name.....
Radical islamists are trying to urduise our schools wherever they are in majority. I think education system needs to be online from home for every kid and one for whole country.
@@NM-we1hz "Bhasha Sangam App", 100+ sentences of daily use in as many as 22 scheduled Indian languages.
@@shivampaliwal1932 👍👍
I am from West Bengal and I predominantly speak Bangla, popularly known as Bengali (also spoken in Bangladesh). Bangla hails directly from Sanskrit and there are so many original Sanskrit pronunciations and even original Sanskrit words in my native tongue! This makes me feel so proud! At the same time, it doesn't mean I wouldn't have loved my native tongue had it not have such a dominant Sanskrit influence! Sanskrit is Bharatiya, just like Bangla or Tamil or Telugu! Why this division and competition among Bharatiyas ? Be it Tamil or Telugu or Hindi or Bangla, every single language is ultimately Indian! That should be a point of common pride and unity, isn't it ? Why this pointless arguing and fighting over whose language is older or better! This is so silly and childish!
Yep , same ✌️😁.
@@_SineNomine yes
And from What Magadhi Prakita Derived ?
@@_SineNomine u have half knowledge bro, it is dangerous!!
@@achieved81u Prakrita itself derived from Sanskrit , the Dhatu , Kriya it's all same.
That's why Bangla and all languages that derived from Prakrita has So much common with Sanskrit
@@achieved81u prakrit is also derived from archaic vedic sanskrit ...There are two types of Sanskrit - Archaic Vedic Sanskrit (earliest sanskrit atleast 5000 years old linguistically ) which transformed prakrit which is also indo iranian aryan language & Classical Sanskrit (2200 years old)...And Bangla (my mother language) has been derived from classical Sanskrit & magadhi prakrit...
When someone say "sanskrit" Tamilans starts to bombard with, tamil is first, we rule you, our language is king etc....
Those who say tamil is superior needs to know that the mighty cholas were interested in sanskrit than tamil they spread sanskrit scriptures and knowledge throughout southeast Asia, not tamil.
@@amulya_asmi
The irony
@@amulya_asmi Modern tamilians are slaves of DMK a christians party. What to expect
@@amulya_asmi ready my comment properly, then reply.
Yep exactly!
@@amulya_asmi yep because they knew what Sanskrit is! But modern tamilians dont.
తెలుగ దేలయన్న దేశంబు తెలుగేను
తెలుగు వల్లభుండ తెలుగొకండ
ఎల్ల నృపులు గొలువ ఎరుగవే బాసాడి
దేశ భాషలందు తెలుగు లెస్స
-శ్రీ కృష్ణదేవ రాయలు
తెలుగు బిడ్డ
జై తెలుగు తల్లి 🔥 ✊
Said by the Telugu God, Andhra Mahavishnu. Proud to be Telugu ❤
Anna nuvv super heee
Really?@@candrealx
Mr Abhijit I have been watching your content for a while now and I must say you hit the nail in the coffin with this one. Enough of division and start uniting under one language and one nation. Don't get me wrong but India is a country with so many languages and it's good that we keep them going as well but always stand united no matter what. Keep posting and really looking forward to your upcoming content!
Telugu people are logical beings!! We don't fight for some trophy. instead we fight for Unity!! Unless New evidence comes, for now, Hard evidence according to science that we all accept blindly, we need to accept Telugu as Oldest FOR NOW!!! Dig deeper into our history to say otherwise!
Exactly Telugus aren't linguistic chauvinists like tamils
True❤
That is true for most part, but Telugus were the first ones to form a linguistic state and also separated from each other despite being Telugu on both sides.
That doesn't show we are very logical or striving for unity.
@@pokemonitishere202 lol. We can't easily sacrifice our language to an indo European language. Making proud your language is in your wish. But, I can 💯 sure thamizh is older than Sanskrit. And it must be the first language of India.
Both keezhadi & Sindhu signages are matching. And lot more coming very soon
@@வசந்தகுமார்what sacrifice? Truth is important. Not your emotions.
The truth is every Indian languages are interrelated ❤️🇮🇳❤️
But through ancestory or loan words?
There is a mention of people from Andhra Telugu Lands, who got a bit of Brownish Teeth in Kurukshethra War, reason might be due to the comparatively high levels of Flourine in Water in this part of Country. This clearly shows that, we are bonded for ages and moreover 'Brahui' of Balochistan is close to South Indian Linguistics. All India is same and don't fall for this British construct Aryan-Dravidian divide.
bro in Mahabharata telugu people supported kouravas and kannadigas remained neutral
@@kimjong-un8912 What do you smoke?
@@metalmaniac9158 it's real, actually telugu people work as narayana sena for Krishna and fought for kaurvas
@@gampa_10_31 I thought these languages didn't exist back then. Only tamil and sanskrit existed
@@metalmaniac9158 udipi king ,he is tulu now in karnataka is the food caterer to all the warriors on suggestion of Sri Krishna...
I agree with you sir .. because of this fight among ourselves we are not able to come to a conclusion which language should be our national language. Because of this English have kind of become our common language of communication. For me one of the Indian language should be made national language and should be taught throughout India. I just don't want English to earn that place in India.
@@achieved81u so why use English?????🤣🤣 Matlab khud ke Desh se ek language communication ke liye select karna paap hai Lekin angrejon ka language use karna proud hai.
@@nayanjyotidas4676 you don't understand his mother tongue . Then you blame us. That it should be sankrit the national language not Hindi . We need to relearn and reimagine Bharat. And the system made in the way to learn english.
We like Sanskrit.
@@nayanjyotidas4676 don't blame him. Blame the system . If you have power and change the system .ok
@@ЯсвантхТеджа I am a student of Kendriya Vidyalaya I have studied Hindi and Sanskrit till class 8 and in class 9 I had select for Sanskrit I love and respect my Sanskrit language. I want to say one thing, we are still studying in the British education system. Sad but true
@@nayanjyotidas4676 yes , we first thing we don't learn any Indian language in depth because there is no use for maths and science and movies and etc which i smandortory to learn an Indian . We don't have a typing mechanism for Indian language and inscript developed by. Indian govt is shit 🤮🤮 which is of no use and waste of resources inscript which is practically useless . How can we expect to change for the entire system in India if Indian can't type their own language in. Digital we don't use paper as much as we once used. So we need digital writing . And further making the English dominance .
Happy to see that Telugu is older, I didn't know this.
@@mangojuice6869 Approved by Mango juice, lol.
I don't know whether if it true or not but I hate the way you Tamil people are over obsessed with your language. You TN people are having Chennai as capital city, the name of which is derived from Telugu name "Chennapatnam" named after Telugu person "Chennappa Nayakudu". You people opposed Telugu when it was chosen as one of the optional subject in curriculum of a school. Give some respect, there are many Telugu people whose ancestors settled there in TN centuries ago.
Btw, what's your actual name? Let me see if it is Sanskrit rooted or Tamil rooted?
@@mangojuice6869 If you are not Tamilian then who are you?
Why are you so obsessed with the language then?
I see most of your comments are related to the language issue and your subscriptions are of Tamil Yt channels mostly.
What's your actual name?
@@mangojuice6869 But the name "Chennai" is derived from "Chennapatnam" which is a Telugu word, lol.
@@mangojuice6869 I knew that lol
Yes, Tirumala and Tirupati are Tamil names and that's why you see hardly any Telugu person disrespect Tamil unlike Tamilans.
I got it now lol since you grew up there in TN, this Virus of language obsession has infected you.
Agents of Stalin got chilly bottom burns .😂
#AskAbhijit sir is there a way to test the fossils of dinosaurs to check if they communicated in Tamil or Telugu?
What?
😂
sir would have laughed while hearting this comment😂
😂😂
😂😂🙏
Why did not consider kheezhadi?
Kheezhadi dates back to 2600 yrs old
They hv no brain give them time they might tell u English is older than tamil n sanskrit😂
Abhijit sir got really pissed on this one 😂😂. And I agree stop fighting guys. I am from northeast and we already lost 5 states to missionaries thanks to this regionalism and now this 2 left are also being filled by Bangladeshi and missionaries
Is the bangladeshi problem out of control? What is govt doing to stop it
Exactly😂😂
Start converting people into sanatan dharm
I'm from kerala,our language Malayalam is a mix of Sanskrit and Tamil. everyone in the world is proud of their language and culture ,but i have seen that many tamils are blind devotees of their culture and language,they usually exaggerate it to the level that everything other than tamil stuff is not worthwhile or valuable.eventhough our language are very similar,they usually act that their language is superior to everyone else.there r many incidents in which the malayalis(keralites) gets attaked in tamilnadu.their politicians and film industry are using this Dravidian supremacy as an intoxicating tool for their power.
Hitler has master race syndrome but our Tamil friends has master language syndrome.
Which is why linguistic states emerged
Wow, i thought tamils only though north indians were sh*t...
True
Malayali are no difference tn the one you described.
A kannada speaking guy here.....
I am glad people of our state do not have such hollow pride over language....
Maybe bcz kannada, Karnataka is highly influenced by Hindu saints, gurus, mathas, adhyatma and our vachanakaras are jewel in karnataka history....
We are very much proud of being bharatiya anytime....
Yeah what's the point even of fighting over the lineage of languages. Let's find the commonalities so we could bond more
@@HARRY-xz1hf commanilty as for as language concerned is Sanskrit.
So let's make Sanskrit as India's national language.
Commonality as for as culture is Hindu. Where respect everyone including guest, that is Atithi devobhava.
So let us accept one language and one culture that is Sanskrit and Hindu which is common in entire India and involve every Indian to get their pride.
I used to think the same about Kannadigas. But hate for non Kannada speakersnis rising. I am a Telugu person and got beaten up in Bangalore for speaking in Telugu. This was in 2010-11. One of my tooth fell off because of that. And lot of bruises on my face. If course I forgave them for that. But looks like as time went on, people are more and more linguistic fundamentalist than ever before. Almost like Tamils were. I know one experience like this doesn't downgrade my view on Kannadigas, but everyday I see the so called accommodating Kannadigas are becoming fewer and fewer. This is not good for India.
Identity crisis also started in Karnataka influenced by tamilian but sadly some telugu people don't know to write in telugu after it revolution stared from 2000onwards we found this issue and fighting behalf of Telugu asithava porata samithi TAPS but no one recognise our efforts
just love and speak language of your place ,I think most of indian languages are connected with Sanskrit,I find lot of common words in most languages of india including Kannada(my mother tongue).
Tq for coverage of this topic
Today's Hindi is completely Foreign
@𑀪𑀸𑀭𑀢𑀯𑀭𑁆𑀱𑀻 sanatani exactly bruh...so true
BEAUTY OF SANSKRIT
@@achieved81u cant use only
Bro but I fear kannada is ignored.
As Karnataka gateway to south
Was protected by pulakeshi,veera balalraya, vijaynagaras, chalukya and many more
Know one talk Abt they protected south culture and knowledge
Now they say we are 1st only we
Being monopoly is not that grreat
Equality leads to form great further nation🙏
@@jashsylde8136how Hindi is foreign it is also evolved from Sanskrit
guruji there was this stupid fellow who was saying ''sanskrit is anti india'' and that ''tamil is older than sanskrit and sanskrit is language of outsiders'' and ofc he was a person from south india
i tried explaining him the fact that there is no advantage in fighting , both are all our cultural identities and it doesnt matter which one is older but he didnt stop and then i realized how much influence these local parties have on the people on the people of south especially, lol he even was saying that all the vedas are wrong, and only true thing is tamil culture !
MERA DIMAAG GHUMA---
I GAVE HIM PROOFS AND YOUR VIDEO REFERENCES
HE SAID YOU ARE A DISTORTED HISTORIAN and AGAINST SOUTH PEOPLE LOL😂, WHAT A COMEDY
USKI JAGAH DIKHAA DI MAINE
It's political fight... They don't want truth.... They want issue to seperate from India so they use language extremism
yoo i have met a few people of south in my city non of them is radical pritty chill guys but when it comes to language they start dancing like some old as tribe to prove the dominance over hindi very funny to see them and i just keep my mouth shut
Exactly this is just a politics , politicians are using it for there own benifit otherwise what can we get after proving which is old and which is new
@@epedso4417 my bruh you are so so true here......
lol i have many great tamil friends, they are cultured, i love this part of them
but when it comes to language, they instantly becomes furious lol, i have seen this so many times, have to keep my mouth shut, dont wanna ruin the relationship (kuch ladkiyan hain na lol😂😂)
@@achieved81u Exactly, i told this to that fellow, he didnt know even about the great cholas , lol
main samajh gaya phir chakkar kya hai😂
Can we all stop fighting over languages please.
What matters is our unity !
I am telugu but I don't care about the age / where it descends from ...a norml sentence in telugu is a honey for me , for me Sanskrit is persnlly a language of vibrations.. i can feel the postive vibes whn i recite Sanskrit mantras ..
Exactly
We have to revive sanskrit😞
I feel Telugu has vibrations & flow like honey. Reciting Telugu poems is 100 times easier than far far complex Sanskrit.
It's the positivity & simplicity of Telugu ❤️
Small correction if I may suggest- we need not care to fight (especially with fanatics) but we MUST and should care to know the antiquity, richness, depth and intricacies of our language. The don't care attitude has what made is do sublime that we take no pride of our mother tongue...even pravachanams these days are in Tenglish.
100%
Viewers : sir which is old Tamil or Telugu ?
Abhijit sir : so u have chosen death , Tamil era known as Sangam era , the word Sangam is itself Derived from Sanskrit , u got ur Answer . BOOM.
Abhijit sir is real Chad , 🤣🙏 huge respect for sir Chavda.
He is Abhijit Chad vda 😌🙏🏼
Sorry bro in tamil lexicon its changam... Or pure word is kodal....
Tamil no need sanskrit
@@devirani6347 changam and sangam have same phonetic sound. You again proved that it is borrowed by sanskrit.
@@anuragkulkarni2929 no way 😂....
Dravidian phonetic there is no "Sa " there's is only cha.. This clearly evident in today malayalam language...
And chankam is more controversial to tamil and sanskrit... If you are so bothered tamil has its alternate word mentioned in the literature itself kodal..
I don't mind using sankrit but claiming tamil depends on sanskrit is utter bullshit tamil is clearly independent classical language which can exclude indo European language influences both by lexicon and phonetic
@@devirani6347 Your name is in Sanskrit.
Sanskritam is the language of DNA and quantum vibration of the universe. Sanskritam is the only eternal language of the world. 54 alphabets of sanskrit came from shriyantra geometry. Sanskrit sounds came from Damaru of lord Shiva. They are primordial sounds of the universe.
There's a difference between beliefs and facts.
Devbhasha Sanskrit supremacy 🤲🛐
😂man there is difference between facts and beliefs
Real ID se aao Sadhguru
@@bunnybag 😂🤣
I am really tired of people claiming their language to be older. And there are another group of gadhas who fight because of their caste like some Rajputs-Gujjars always fight(both claim that they are the original kshatriya).
Edit: And people have started to fight even in the comments. Why can't both Rajputs ans Gujjars be kshatriyas? Rajputs have bravely defended Desh and Dharm multiple times, many generations of Rajputs sacrificed their lives to protect our civilization, having said that i can't respect someone like Maan Singh a Rajput, he fought against the great Rajput King Maharana Pratap. Also there were so many Gujjars in the army of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, they sacrificed their lives for our civilization too. For me they both were Kshatriyas because they fit into the definition of Kashtriya as per Bhagwat Geeta.
And the people who believe gujjars are the kshatriyas are greatest gadhas of all time
yes but both came from outside, there is no such thing as rajput gujjar in hinduism, indo aryans were from ganga valley region, ram krishan, pandav, chandragupta maurya, all were from ganga valley region
@@abhayrajsingh8 lol one gujjar was fighting with me at the same topic and he said i am not kshatriya and he was.....what a komedy....😂😂
anyways
Rajputra is the correct word for khastriyas and who told that rajput is a caste. the alliance of various khastriya houses known as rajputs, the confideration first used to defeat mughal babur by maharana sanga.
People fight for language only in south India. It doesn't happen in north India. I have never seen it. But the rajput and gujjar thing is obviously there in north India as well. They are just dumb.
Even if telugu is not an old language i don't mind......i don't need to feel proud of my language based on how much older it is.
It's only dumeels weird obsession with age of Language 😂
I am Marathi i can understand some Tamil, Telugu, and Sanskrit words without learning them and I also know that our languages originate from Shiva Sutra. Our people learnt Hindi without even knowing it, here in Maharashtra.
@@GautamGM kemke gujarati ane marathi aa bane bhasha vedic sanskritmathi ave che. also they are geographically close, which leads to a lot of influence between the two.
தொல்காப்பியம் = தொல்(தொன்மை)+காப்பு(காப்பாற்று)+இயம்(இயம்புதல்) என்று முச்சொற்களாகப் பிரித்துப் பொருள் கொள்ள வேண்டும். தொன்மை, காகாப்பாற்று, இயம்புதல் அனைத்தும் தமிழ் சொற்கள். தொன்மையைக் காத்து இயம்புவது என்று பொருள் பெறும்
𝙽𝚎 𝚎𝚗𝚊 𝚋𝚛𝚘 𝚗𝚎𝚗𝚊𝚒𝚔𝚛𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚊 𝚟𝚊𝚍𝚊𝚔𝚊𝚗𝚐𝚊 𝚎𝚕𝚊 𝚝𝚊𝚖𝚒𝚕 𝚘𝚕𝚍𝚎𝚛 𝚗𝚞 𝚜𝚘𝚕𝚞𝚟𝚊𝚗𝚐𝚊 𝚗𝚊
I believe in nihilism and so when I see people fighting about things that doesn't really help our environment, I just ignore them and concentrate on the actual real problems that I, personally can solve to make our world a better place.
lol nihilist? nietzsche ke saare works pad liye?
do you even know what a nihilist/anarchist is? they are not fighting for a better world. mullas and padres are nihilists when compared to hindus, buddhists, sikhs, shintos, etc. you are literally fighting for your own destruction if we take your comment seriously!
@@darkprince2490 bruh wtf,,,,
i obviously know about them, have read nietzche works.....
nihilists believe in nothingness lol
they dont have any morals, logic etc
@@desiconvicted Nietzsche was NOT a nihilst.
@@suvratpandit5701 poocha kisi ne?
Remember Dinosaurs used to speak tamil.
@@KafkaesqueBrahmins yes like nee yaar Naa t rex
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Average Dumeelian 😂😂
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No they spoke sanskrit bro
Brahmi script then ubiquitous and later split into Ashoka Brahmi and Tamil Brahmi. Both same origin
Only sensible Dravidian person is Rahul Dravid 🔥
Lol
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phirse dravidian ka chutiyapa khelne lag gye?
@@desiconvicted 😜
Well said, I was reading "Lords of the Deccan", a historical book and learnt the Chalukyas & Rastrakutas made Sankrit their court language. This slowly merged into Kannada and hybrid Kannada became the court language at some point. There is evidence, so we know, it's good to know. Can't speculate and fight over languages when English words are now part of most Indian languages now 😊
That's not true. Rastrakutas chalukyas kadambas were all used hale kanadda which is bit more complex than present kannada and sanskrit was only used for writing slokas and poems
@@nikhilhegde43 i am sorry but hale kannada had more sanskrit words. Hence it was more difficult to understand.. reformed kannada is a bit eased and has less sanskrit words.
@@nikhilhegde43 Hale Kannada is sanskritised.
Watch channels like (hyperquest),(praveen mohan) and (abhijeet chavda) to know more about our great historic,scientific culture(sanatana). 🙏 🙏 🙏🙏
And (sham sharma show),(aktk)(opindia) to know reality of shaikh-ul-arism.😢
Spread these channels to all hindus through shares, comments and subscribes to make them aware of their culture and the danger on them.🙏🙏.😢
@@anuragkulkarni2929no modern kannada is sanskritised kannada
After watching this episode.
Tamilians who always says Tamil is the oldest language.
**My whole life was lie.
I am a kannadiga and even in my state there are few mindless kannada people fighting over hindi and other indian languages. I mean I don’t understand how their worthless lives will change by proving their language is superior? You still have to work to earn your daily bread.
@@anuragkulkarni2929 Don't worry there aren't many such people...
@@anuragkulkarni2929 I'm Tamil but I can understand kannada people fighting over Hindi. If some north Indian is in your mother land then they should respect the native language there.
@@creativethinkers3214 well if they dont respect kannada is a total different thing. What bothers me is some goons go to pubs and bars and demand to play only kannada songs. Or paint black ok hindi writings in public spaces. These thinhs are unnecessary and politically motivated.
@@anuragkulkarni2929 Yeah it is happenning in Tamilnadu too. There are many many north Indians in Chennai and thank God tbh most of them learned Tamil.
To those who really want a definite answer to the question which is the oldest Indian language I have a suggestion.
Please invest all your money and invent a time machine. Travel all across India and let us know. Don't forget to bring some proof.
Or just admit that we don't know and that it truely does not matter. My life as a tamilian is not affected by this question. Let alone my self-confidence.
Also don't forget to throw stone on Newton,this guy has destroyed my life..
As tamizhan I have few suggestions.
1. All Indian languages should acknowledge each other, for example instead of studying science, social or maths., etc all official and unofficial(if that is even possible for unofficial ones) Indian languages needs to be brought into the educational systems in all states.
2. Stop hindi imposition In all Indian states
3. ASK HINDI PEOPLE TO STOP FAKELY SHOWING OFF HINDI AS NATIONAL LANGUAGE.
Annachi who is imposing tamil on whom???
You guys do it non others
As a fellow keralite i can see this...
You guys think Malayalam is derivative of tamils which is utter nonsense.....
70%of our words are Sanskrit (pure) and more percentage with small differences..
Like nayanam bhagavataam..
Pançhannyam
Who said you should talk our language only? Tamils or Hindis?
Me personally I would gladly learn Malayalam, Telugu and Kannada if I could get a chance since this could help us build bridges between states and all this three languages are related to tamil that's is also one of reasons for me to wanting to learn these languages. Do you know why problem really came? That's because you accepted Sanskrit as if that is only option to create a new language. Go and check your education system, is tamil there as a subject for you? Go north and check. does anybody knows anything about south? Central Government is only been ruled by northerners excluding Abdul Kalam And he didn't go as simple as that, you would know that if you have minimum knowledge of science. And still you are supporting northerners.
@@jishamp7539 and stop this prejudice thinking based on meeting few people if you even really met tamil people. STOP VILLIFYING US. IF YOU WANT TO VILLIFY SOMEONE GO VILLIFY SOMEONE WITH ACTUAL AUTORITARIAN MIND SET.
Please be clear southern part of India and Tamil Nadu is totally different sir I am from Telangana I don't know what is Dravidian moment nor do my parents 🙏 our state issue is jobs religion and underdevelopment ... language is least priority we don't care if our language is oldest or not like you said we are one civilization
Bro maybe it's not in Telengana or AP.
But language and ancient pride is very high in Tamil Nadu.
@@universelover8595 that's what when you can differentiate up Bihar Maharashtra Punjab gujarat bengal but when it comes to southern states everyone uses word south india or southern part why ? .agree Tamil language is an emotion for most tamilian and rest of India may mock it but thats how you guys have retained the culture no youtuber will applaud that they will drag Dravidian moment is the reason which is not reality
@@shashikanth_tadoori what logic sir 🤣🤣
@@greatsir43 I am not Tamil but still say they have stood out in retaining their culture more than any part of India ... Dravidian movement is only one negative aspect that they have
@@shashikanth_tadoori Hmm... That's why missionaries are so active and popular in Tamil Nadu.
I am telugu.
I know Hindi, English, Telugu, Lambadi and Tamil.
Pls always mention mother tongue first. That's the basic respect we can give her. We worship our mother (tongue) while respecting all others.🙏
I speak Telugu English Tamil kannada Hindi urdu Malayalam
As a telugu I would like to say to telugu people first to love and respect their mother tongue. In English medium schools it is prohibited to talk in telugu. This is our unfortunate state. Why to fight about its age.
Many Telugus are under false assumption that Telugu came from Sanskrit & Telugu has 70% sanskrit words.
No it's entirety false.
Telugu is a Dravidian language & it doesn't have any relation with Sanskrit. Just like modern day English influenced all indian languages, sanskrit influenced Telugu a little. Today, Telugu has mostly English words than sanskrit or urdu words. Does that mean Telugu came from English now?
Reality is Sanskrit stole so many Telugu words & later reintroduced them into other languages as it's own original words using ah-aha format manipulating original Telugu words.
Examples:
Telugu ones are original here
Pusthekamma(Tel) - pusthakam(sans)- Book
Pandithudu - panditha- scholar
Sunna - shunyam - zero
Bandi - bandhee - vehicle
Koppu/kopparam - gopuram - pinnacle
Praathadhanam - prayam - oldness
and many more
Pure Telugu is a lot lot sweeter, easier than Sanskrirt mixed Telugu. Tell me a Sanskrit word & I'll tell you a pure TELUGU 🔥 word for it.
Moreover Telugu can stand independently on its own without any language influence. We don't need any Sanskrit or hindi to unite us.
Let's be united, protect & respect our Unity in Diversity.
Jai Telugu thalli🔥✊
Bharath mathaku jejelu ❣️
Aadi Bhatla నారాయణ గారి లలితా సహస్రం తెలుగులో చదవండి. ఎంత తీయని తెలుగు భాష మనది అని తెలుస్తుంది. జోతలు.
@@pokemonitishere202 pora puka .
i like sanskrit telugu . I'm Telanganite . fuck your Telugu thalli . jai telangana thalli
@@pokemonitishere202 more like dravidians adopted austronesian tounge of AASI
@@bharathiAvireddy ఎక్కడ దొరుకుతుంది ??? 🤔
Sign language is oldest. Developed by indians with head boggle.
As an Indian student i wish to learn all main Indian Languages so i can thoroughly travel and enjoy every part of this Beautiful Nation
whatever it is, I am tamil. I love my language. I love my mother tongue. And I am open to learn Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada. :)
I would just say this here.
Dharma is never and should never be limited to languages. 🙏😌
Fight the Enemy...not your own people. 💔💔💔
I don't know about about sanskrit, tamil, or telugu, but I do know there was no monotheism/atheism in ancient Bharata.
@UCv-SWmz3-zv-lMcVRZ1Jtfw wrong. jainas and buddhist have the same gods as hindus. they have their own versions of ramayana, etc. carvaka just meant epicurean/opportunist (live for the day) mentality. it was never a real Darshana. And it certainly was not ideological atheism. You got hoodwinked by a missionary indologist.
I'm from TN. Anybody older than Tamil, we accept that. But, whenever going through original solid record, we not find what we expected. Tamil 560 bc name written on clay pot in keelady found. But achichanallur burial site pots, are 3000 years old. We searched about sadharvana dynasty, coins are oneside prakit writings & another side Tamil writings, then what we want to decide. It's not few epigraphical writings , more than 55000 epigraphical stone found in India for tamil. Even bc era, when was Tamil speaking south, there was many launguage in north. If Simply saying Sanskrit only the language, then what about Asokan brahmi & pali? We had great trade deal with north also, yes there were different languages in north. Might be lot, don't had written format. Written format is different. Speaking is different.
Just wait for lot of excavation. Tamil has lot Sanskrit word, after 2nd century. But, read thirukkural, puranaanuru, before sangam period writings, where is the Sanskrit?. Today modern Tamil don't have real or pure or sangam Tamils words. Today, Tamil has Sanskrit, Telugu, Kannada, few Europe words, Arab words also due to trade, turkey & brahmin arrivals. Even Tamil people cannot understand easily sangam period Tamil due to Grammers & purity. Old Grammers are very critical. You can see soild proof evidence 560 years old carbon dated writings on pot by harward, in keelady arunkaatchiyagam.1000 Bc Athichanallur burial site excavation in Austria museum. Correspondent living site of athichanallur, still not found. Keelady excavation fully not finished. Bending to excavate, lot of places like kodumanal, athiraipakkam, korkkai port, aay port, boombukar, Kaveri poombattinam, arikka medu port city. Still, there are lot of report on bendings by asi. If, Sanskrit is old, we accept & welcome by ever TN. Solid evidence, where??? When we are going to checking the solid evidence of Sanskrit, it's not exceeding 1900 old (Rajasthan, Gujarat epigraphical). It's not old from Asokan brahmin. We suspect, that Sanskrit writing scripts came from Asokan Brahmi. Might be, can be Sanskrit on speaking & communication level. But, if we are going in that way, even BC era more than 100 writing less, speaking language might be exist. Problem is Sanskrit how much old it is, that not a problem. Saying only It is a mother of all language, only the problem.. then we want say all are fake & over creation by Sanskrit lovers & fans.
Well said. It's not about fighting. As per archeological evidence, Tamil is the oldest Indian language. If somebody proves other languages based on evidence, we will accept.
Yes bro. This historian is either shallow in his research or he has an Agenda.
You are just blind Tamil lover who has this Tamil supremacy attitude.What sir has told is facts.Facts are facts.Facts do not care about your emotions and feelings.
@@simplysanthakumarAs per available evidence Sanskrit is the oldest Indian language.Sir has already told with facts man.
@@simplysanthakumarwhich archeology???
Archeological evidence by padayppa stalin 😜🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Tamil language is recognized as the oldest language in the world and it is the oldest language of the Dravidian family. This language had a presence even around 5,000 years ago. According to a survey, 1863 newspapers are published in the Tamil language only every day. At present, the number of speakers of Tamil language is around 7.7 crores. This language is spoken in India, Sri Lanka, Singapore and Malaysia.
@narutoanime9962 just Google it....
@narutoanime9962 since when did you become better than authentic sources in google...stop reading WhatsApp forwards here🤡💯
Wow
What an essay you have learnt in school kid.
Still blabbering even today, without context.
@narutoanime9962what is hinduism? Don't westernise our dharma we have no religion we dharmic, sanatan dharm means eternal it us Vedic dharma and also nature worship it is more than 8090+ whole world saya Sanskrit is oldest language beacuse of rigved slide found on Iraq
Yes I am a bengali ,and I could easily grab Hindi and Sanskrit ..I never studied oriya and Assamese but can understand them easily ..but I studied French and find it pretty different ...it is mostly similarly with German or Spanish and obviously English ...but European languages and Indian are different...
As a Gujarati it's find Kannada a bit understanding I don't know how 😅😂
BTW I want Sanskrit as our one and national language while preserving all other
Watch channels like (hyperquest),(praveen mohan) and (abhijeet chavda) to know more about our great historic,scientific culture(sanatana). 🙏 🙏 🙏🙏
And (sham sharma show),(aktk)(opindia) to know reality of shaikh-ul-arism.😢
Spread these channels to all hindus through shares, comments and subscribes to make them aware of their culture and the danger on them.🙏🙏.😢❤😢❤
Be careful with what you wish. This will even lead to a partition😁😁
@@Sham-bs7ir bulldozer coming in TN soon
plz bring and remove bjp and some garbage here. @@subhodutta6163
@@vbiotonicmascot6099Sanskrit have no abuse world's 😢
Tamil is no doubt born from Sanskrit. Because legend says it's agastya sage is father of Tamil civilization and he came from north and he carried Sanskrit to south. But there is a possibility that there might be an another language in south before agastya came to south.
You must have gone mad!
@@atrixsauza2068 there was no bloody aryans it was western cristian shit. How did it became indo aryan then?
Agents of Stalin got chilly bottom burns by your comments
What is the first language of the world? It can be said in one sentence. If the root words of all languages are found in those languages, then it is the first language of the world. That is one and only Tamizh
No... It's me who created all languages
Bros can we stop this language fight and rebuild akhand bharat ?
In Odisha, we feel proud that our language Odia is heavily sanskritised, I guess its very opposite in Tamil Nadu.
@Lax Yes. Just read the lyrics of our state anthem 'Vande Utkal Janani'.
Its in sanskritised classical odia.
True I am odia our poetic word literally come from sanskrit.
I'm Telugu, I feel proud that we don't need sanskrit & English in our language but still they infested our language
Odia is not "sanskritized" because it is itself a descendant of archaic vedic sanskrit. A sanskritized language would be Telugu or Kannada, which have no relation to sanskrit but absorbed its vocabulary.
@@adash7841i love odia, jai jagarnath 🕉️🚩
We have had the same issues in Sri Lanka, and you see what happened in my home country.
Indus to vaigai: journey of civilization.... Good book.
Fun fact is there is line in Mahabharata saying that telugu people fought sahadev in rajasuya yagam of yudhistira . As they was mis treated they joined aliance with kouravas in kurukshetra . There is clear mention of name Andhra Desham in vyasa bharatha
Namasthe Sir🙏🏻
It also mentioned in Vishnu sahasranamam that "CHANOOR ANDHRA NISHUDHANAH" which means Krishna defeated a wrestler named CHANOOR who hails from Andhra region where Telugu is the native language...
Thus proving that Telugu has been spoken since the time of Dwpara yuga... Radhe 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Radhe..🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Telugu is spoken in presnt Andhra. Not in Dvapar yugam.
In dvapar yugam, sanskrit was spoken in Andhra with a little regional variation.
Even the word Andhra Pradesh itself is a sanskrit word. No hate- just wanted to make it clear that whenever you read Andhra in ancient history, it only means sanskrit andhra.
@@abhinavsinghraghuvanshi2047 what is the meaning of Andhra in Sanskrit then??? Just wanted to know
Because almost 80% of Telugu is Sanskrit...
@@archanasai1811 but the "80%" all have native telugu equivalents. If someone started to speak a blend of English and Telugu, will it mean 50% of Telugu is english?
@@MichelleObamasBBC I'm not talking of present day Telugu...I'm talking of Telugu from ancient Telugu literature...
There's a saying in software programming : "(Programming) Language Wars generate more HEAT than LIGHT." Whether one uses C or Java or XYZ doesn't matter as long as one can make *good software* in it.
Common advice by experts is "Choose whatever programming language is best suited for the purpose without wasting time and energy in fruitless comparisons".
So what separates Programming languages from Human languages : Utility vs Culture, Knowledge, Wisdom.
Indian languages carry a wealth of Culture and Values of our land that is the critical part that needs to be passed on to Future Generations.
This is the most powerful reason for continuing our indigenous languages.
This *Light* of Wisdom, Knowledge and Culture will disappear in the *Heat* of Language Wars. Instead we need to spread the knowledge among Indian languages by translating the wealth of knowledge and wisdom. This will add to our culture and make it even more rich!! 🙏🙏🙏
The sad part is some of the people dont believe we are part of one family, they think they speak different languages and just look a little different they are other people, they are forgetting that geographic condition is also responsible for looks and may other things, i have just one word for them " racist and separatists people"
@@Sham-bs7ir Yes we aren't. But still we are all Indians❤
I am a true Indian Tamizh from heart❤❤ And many are also
Namaste 🕉🙏: Aum written with the generic Devanagari symbol ॐ) is a sacred, spiritual symbol, mantra and mystical SANSKRIT sound, Aum symbolizes the Universe and the ultimate reality at the dawn of creation, AUM is considered an original (primal) sound that first rang out in the created universe. 🕉🙏🕉🙏Jai sanatan dharma 🕉🙏🕉🙏::Jai hind 🕉🙏Shanti 🙏🕉 Aum.!!
I have seen in Maharashtra, Mumbai to be precise, that some Maharashtrians treat people who speak Hindi language as disrespect to Maharashtra. It feels so sick to me. It feels like diversity which was strength of India, now has become problem. Speaking related to Maharashtra only here. Don't know if it happens in some other states as well.
U should respect native culture and language. Its not like Marathi is difficult to learn, u should learn at least basic. When we come to north we talk in Hindi not in our language.
Well as a marathi I support them. Cz Maharashtra is facing highest immigrants from other states. And this is affecting our jobs, environment caring capacities, all good facilities which our ancestors fought till death and now being used by others. At some level its fine but out of top 5, 3 cities of india facing highest migration are from Maharashtra. This is taking rights os our poor marathi ppl cz outsiders are occupying every unskilled job also. Where I always support our marathi. High jobs need talent anyone can come but other unskilled jobs marathis should be 1st always. Don't worry soon we will demand reservation for marathi at unskilled jobs.
How much do you care about Marathi though? I know people who have come from outside of Maharashtra that don't bother to learn Marathi and then there are other who stay here for 2 months and speak decent Marathi. Do you know why? They respect the culture and the language. I'm pretty sure you won't put up the same kind of demand if you were to move to a foreign country. You won't ask Germans to speak Hindi, would you? Or would you do that to Americans or the brits? Have some respect for the native culture that you are moving. It's called basic empathy. Try to go to Gujrat or somewhere else in the south and give the same argument, you'll be beaten down. I as a Maharashtrian respect North Indian culture, but then that should be mutual right? A culture is born from the language, so to understand the culture you have to bother with the language.
One should learn the local language for better integration and participation in the social fabric of the given place.
The Marathi people are irked because outsiders don't try to learn the local language even after staying for decades in Maharashtra.
I am a Marathi and i speak Hindi and Tamil fluently ( i worked in both north and south India). Jaisa desh waisa vesh, simple.
And TBH people who can read and write Hindi can read and write Marathi without much difficulty. All it takes is some effort.
@@darshu94 north dont have hindi language as a native language
Even in Tholkappiyam, they mentioned how to use Sanskrit word. That shows Tamil and Sanskrit existed together.
@LaxCan you explain how you came to this genius conclusion in history? if I talk about you, it doesn't mean you are older than me. Only because of people like fight on language happens.
Tholkapiyam also mentions a Telugu king who gave refuge. Other dravidian languages too were there during that period!
Actually why to find out older one is to find out long existence.. so that we can say their way of living is better than the best..
I am proud to be a Tamil, there is no standard to measure Tamil
A sentence in Tamil with vowels and consonants is proof. Thank God for making me a Tamilian.
Give thanks to jesus... Lord of raja raja chola...
Amd go to jesus natha swamy temple
@@jishamp7539😂😂
I have proud to be sanskritian , one of oldest culture and language,👽
Also thank Jesus for 1 kg rice
I think african languages are the oldest, because the evolution and migration of humans started from african continent.
Meanwhile Kannadigas have always kept quite inspite of having all the rich history. We are laughing at these idiots fighting who is oldest.
Respect from a telugu
Sir malayalam has 60% sanskrit and 40% tamil words. But the writing system is completely similar to telugu & kannada
Writing system? What do you mean?
Malayalam, together with Tamil, Telugu, Tulu and Kannada are derived from Proto-dravidian.
@@mlg1279 writing system means the script
@@KrishnaDev_R_V Malayalam script is very different from Kannada or Tamil. Also, Tamil has very few alphabet (compared to Malayalam)
@@amulya_asmi Semitic!?? BS!
The Indian languages are much older than Semitic languages.
Malayalam scripts similar to Telugu, Kannada
Tolkappiyam
Tol - old
Kaappu - grammar ( it's not kaaviyam)
Iyam- art
Tol+kaapu+iyam
Kaapu means to protect not grammar . You are creating your own etymology 😂
Its all due to politics of the southern states.
especially KCR & stalin
@@dv9239 I remembered once he said URDU is acceptable not Hindi
@@dv9239 yeah thats for political purpose
Sir some historians were claiming that Ashok knew 21 languages,is this claim is right
Bilkul bakwash fake baat hai
Old or older is not the issue. Telugus never fought for their language being branded old or not. There are efforts in the country to decolonize the country. But as well there a trend to colonize the country with Hindi. Hindi does not fall into the category of ancient language of the country and is very young langusge born in 8 century AD. It is a language born out of fusion between persian, Arabic and Turkish languages with Sanskrit. Govt should try to Sansktize the country so that there is no dispute. We are forced to remember the names of schemes and institutions which we do not understand. Every TV communication either though ministers or officials is coming only in Hindi with Hindi numerals god knows what they are. So half the country is blind and deaf about the news which government wants people to know. Stop this nonscense.
FYI-
1)Bhattiprolu inscription wer in prakrit written using script very closely resemble to tamil brahmi, like hindi written in english/roman alphabet.
2) if telugu inscription dated to 400BC, then why next oldest telugu inscription dated to 575CE( GAP OF 900 YEARS?) Kalamalla copper plate.
3) And these oldest telugu inscription mention, they wer renati chola descent from tamil Karikala Cholan
4) tamil inscription not just found in one place , there are atleast 100 tamil inscription from 500BC-300CE in all over tamil nadu and srilanka.
5)tamil script even found in oman,thailand and egypt dated 200BC-100CE.
6) tamil brahmi became widespread in 300BC itself,then how long in back it would have taken to reach wide spread education reaching outside country?
7) hathigumpa inscription in orrisa 150BC mentioned "tamil confedaration"
8) ashoka inscription mentioned chera,chola,pandiya and sathyaputra who wer tamil kings.
Telugu people dont have antiquity thats can predate to bronze/iron age like tamil or sanskrit. So theh dont have interest in or proof to show there language is older. Wer tamil and sanskrit have many fact to debate side by side which is older.
Because Telugus lost many evidences due to invasions & tamil Nadu was protected by water three sides & Andhra & Karnataka from North side & hence have many inscriptions preserved.
Inscriptions doesn't decide the age of a Language. Language might be older than that inscription. Hope you understand.
Just like indus valley don't have as much preserved antiques as Persians.
i really wanna appreciate the effort u put in your research, but sadly Sangam is a sumerian word!!. The root 'saka' is present in archaic tamil - Sumerian word 'saGkam' refers to the same meaning ‘gathering’
South Indians first decide Tamil, Telugu,Malyalam, Kannada etc which is ur favorite? Coz rest of India considers Sanskrit the top tier language.
It's only tamil supremacists. Not the whole South India.
Sanskrit. I am from Kerala. I love Sanskrit's other daughters also like malayalam, tamil, telugu, kannada😊😊😊
@Andhrudu lmao sanskrit is the ancient Indian language. All these languages came way after that. You are funny.
@@atrixsauza2068 "y'all ditch hindi then talk first" 🤓🤓, hindi and sanskrit are the just as similar as your right leg and left leg. You are not smart.
@@balakumart562 well we speak hindi, and both hindi and sanskrit have the same writing structure.
Telugu and sanskrit have so much similar words
Because Telugu influenced sanskrit & vice versa
Telugu and Sanskrit dont have similar words, the words in Telugu are borrowings from Sanskrit. Much like we borrow english words for a lot of things in our native tongues.
Not much
Oldest tamil inscription madurai Mangulam and theni pulimankombai 600 Bc
This is what happened during the British era they divide us and made us fight ourselves and took over our country, but now we are doing this ourselves.
We are fighting for lack of respect. As long as we are respected and given our due place we know that Indian language fabric is interwoven. We Telugus feel we and our language is not given due recognition. It’s not political or separatist and not even anger. We need our space akin to how India and Indian contributions are ignored by the world, our Telugu contributions are largely ignored by historians.
Having said that British education and this unnatural division of states based on language has done a great disservice to Indian languages as most of us could speak more than their mother tongue even the common man in the pre colonial era.
We should start recognising this Indian language fabric as one with different coloured threads and stop using state specific identities to people and events as there were no modern states when these events happened.
True.
Telugu being the second most spoken language in South India, it hasn't got much recognition compared with Tamil. We Telugites are still referred as Madrasis by North Indians.
@@cvs2k_6 telugu lacks antiquity and there's is still no clarity on which language tree it belong.... Some claims it belong to dravidian language family and some argue it comes from sanskrit....
First you teluguite should have clarity 😂...first
@@cvs2k_6 i am from North...madrasi means...we really don't know...we think madrasi means South... pls tell me...nd i have heard Telugu is the sweetest language...will try to learn...nd one more thing I want to tell...Hindi is not our mother tongue...but our second language n official language of north
@@devirani6347
It's recorded everywhere that Telugu is a south central Dravidian language.
But the people lacks that clarity due to over affection with sanskrit & it's propaganda written in Telugu.
Yes we telugus have gotra which is a straight evidence and saints are the first civilization but Tamil people doesn't have gotras.
The funny thing here is people don't even speak sanskrit and they are still fighting about it
We believe in facts not in the majority.
Kanchipuram was the southern headquarter of Sanskrit & is one of 7 most important Hindu Dham
Keezhadi Tamil Brahmi inscription belongs to 6th century BCE. It is archeology proved through Carbon dating.Hence even evidence wise Tamil is older than Telugu
We have to worry more about if the Indian languages will continue into future or not!!
Parents and schools are turning away from mother tongue to English. Higher education esp in English is a fact. As English education captures the market what's the future like?
English is taking over faster with every passing year esp with penetration of internet into even faraway villages.
How many generations (3-5-8?) before English overtakes every other native Indian language??
Sumerian words that are still in use in Kannada
Sumerians (5500 BCE - 1800 BCE) & Akkadians (2400 BCE ) called the people of Indus/Harrapan (3300 BCE - 1300 BCE) as Meluhha, MeluKhkha or MeluhhaKi.
The word MeluKhkha literally means people of
high lands and is just as same as KarNata
Mele = Higher = Kar
Akha/Ki = Country = Nata
Malla in Kannada also means Great.
Many Kannada kings had title with Malla like: JagadekaMalla, TribhuvanaMalla (Vikramaditya), Trailokyamalla/Ahavamalla (Someshwara)
KarNata Kingdom who ruled Nepal, Bihar, UP called themselves as MallaVamshi (Great Clan) of KarNata.
Even today in Karnataka names like MallAmma, MallAnna, Mallesha are very common.
Many historians, Linguists, Philologists now claim that the Root of Dravidian/Kannada language is connected with Sumero-Dravidian languages.
One of the most remarkable things about Kannada is, Sumerian words are not only found in earlier Kannada (haLeGannada, NaduGannada) but are still in use even in today's Kannada (HosaGannada).
Sumerians/Akkadians both record trades with Indus/Harrappan people with items names having names of Kannada origin or connected with Kannada. Like,
Agar[a/u] : Fragrance Wood Oil - SandleWood
eLLu : Sesame - eLLu
Bison/Buffalos Horns - KA is still famous for KadEmme (Wild Buffallo/Bisons)
Some Sumerian words that are still in use in Kannada
Ri - Respectable / elderly person
(Ree - to elders, verbs suffixed with ree [Verb+Ree] - for elderly person: Madri [Please do], keLri [Please listen])
Bi-ra - Mix (Kannada - Bera as in Berasu)
Su - do (Madisu, keLisu, torisu)
Karu - Black - Kari
Nir - Water - Nir
Ag - To become (Aagu - become)
Ur - Village ( Ur/Uru in Kananda)
Sig - Sun Burnt tiles (Sigadi - Fireplace, from Seke - Heat from sun, similar to Shaki/Saki - Sultry due to sun)
Bir - Break (Biruku - Break)
Sumerian Counting
One - Ur/Uru - Or/Ondu
Two - Ir - Iru/Eradu
Three - Mu - Mu/Muru
Four - Na - Nalk[u]
Five - A/ia - ay/Ayd[u]
Six - as - Aar[u]
Ten - Ha - Hatthu
With connection of Kannada with Sumerian, Akkadian, Indus civilization there is no doubt that Kannada is one of the longest living languages.
Needless to say advent of Sanskrit/Prakrit have done tremendous erosion of culture & history to Kannada in past.
Credits:
Research by A. Sathasivam M.A., Ph.D. on Dravidian and Sumerian Languages.
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I am tamilan....from Chennai ...even i know ... Sanskrit is older than Tamil....some people use politics to divide tamils from rest of India ...for their personal benefit
How do u know Sanskrit is older than Tamizh??
Aayo vidada thampi. Ethaayirutha ennaa. Let's develop our nation. Apparam vachikkalam intha thevayillatha sandaye..
Don't know the history properly keep quiet and shut your mouth
When statistical analysis of Tamil language was carried out. According to it, the books from Sangam period and the later Sangam period, the epics and the medieval period literatures, poems by the poets of the modern generation, novels, short stories, Tamilnadu syllabus books,letters, advertisements, words in the Tamil dictionary were taken into account ranging from ancient to modern era.
Approximately 2.5 lakh words were taken into account for his statistical research.
1)The first perspective was based on sounds. Vowels and consonants. The vowels had soft and hard sounds. There are 7 hard letters and 5 soft letters. The consonants are divided into three types namely vallinam, mellinam, idayinam. Each type of consonant has 6 letters thus containing 18 of them. So when we look st tholkappiyam's era to present day, the percentage of the vowels and consonants are 44% and 56% respectively. Tholkappiyam is conservatively dated to 300 bce. So since 2300 years, the percentage has been same as is found in statically analysis. This is really surprising!
83% of the letters used in present day Tamil are soft whereas only 17% hard letters are used.
So this 83%-17% ratio is being witnessed for over 2300 years.
2) Coming to consonants, there are 3 types. Vallinam, Mellinam and idayinam.
Since tholkappiyam's era to present day newspapers, magazines etc the Tamil has used 44% of vallinam consonants, 26% of mellinam consonants and vallinam and mellinam together comprises of 70% of consonants used. The remaining 30% had been idaiyinam. Since 2300 years the same percentage has been maintained!
This means that the usage of the sounds in the Tamil language attained stability even before 2300 years, which means that the Tamil language attained classical status even before 2300 years.
And as known, for a language to attain a matured state, it takes atleast two millenia.
So Tamil can easily be dated to 2500- 3000BCE. Whereas telugu as a language started to develop after the BC era only. And about the bhattiprolu inscription, I've already proved that it's Tamil and not telugu in my other comment of the same video
But why does it matter… also what is the name of the paper or who carried out the research?
@@diplocolus1439 What I'm trying to say is tamil had attained a matured/ classical state even before 2300 years. So even if we date tamil's age conservatively, tamil is atleast as old as 2000- 2500BCE as it takes ATLEAST 1000 years for a language to evolve and develop to matured state. Whereas telugu as a language developed and evolved only after the BC era.
So if we say telugu is older than Tamil, then there is no bigger foolishness than that
@@diplocolus1439 The research was carried out by Dr. Pandiarajan of Madurai American College
What proof you proved?😂😂😂
We never fight our Telugu as oldest but still Today found Telugu older than Tamil....at the end of day it is just a language
Dude finding inscription of language a being older than b doesn't mean a is older than b.
AMEN!!!! THANKYOU!!! I’ve been saying this for god knows how long!!!
Sad to say that PEOPLE OF INDIA IN ANCIENT and now have not changed an Inch! Regional demarcation and fight of “who is the best” is still existing and this is not a good sign because this will always strengthen the “vultures” who are waiting to rule India once again!
Remember! UNITY IS STRENGTH! Jai Hind 🇮🇳 Akhand Bharat Amar Rahe
#askabhijit How do we even put a "birth" date to a language? Isn't it organic evolution? Of course there are periods when we can say there English wasn't spoken and when it was... If we also go more philosophically, how at all do we assign a date to such languages...? It is not that one day a group of people decided to form a new language like a kid's game....
Also, if we are going by date od the oldest inscriptions of a language , what about languages whose people never inscribed ? Or whose script wasn't present?
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Telugu has some words from sanskrit but telugu it self is completely different language and has words but people are not using them
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I listen to south indian songs though I'm an North east indian but i think Dravidian languages have more sankrit words and pronunciation
The two language families have emerged in parallel . There is no way the roots of Sanskrit and Tamil are the same. It is largely possible that both developed in different parts of India. Remember in ancient times the Dandaka forest separated the north from the south so it is not surprising if the two languages evolved in parallel and different to each other. Then at some point in history they started to influence each other and that point in history is itself thousands of years old. So there is no point in bickering about this.
Not corroborated by any science.To make that statement we have to look at spoken language,script,cultural development and stage of urbanization separately.Early Tamil Brahmi script is about 2600 years old after Vedic Sanskrit had changed to classical Sanskrit.The oldest language book in Tamil (Tholkapiyan )is heavily similar to the dharmashastras and the dates of both coincide.,about 2200 years old(first evidence of influence).The oldest dharmashastra ,Manusmriti is however older dating back 2600 years but there is no older Tholkapiyan.There might have been an older spoken language in the area that was absorbed into classical Tamil but that is true of any region in India.Archaelogically too the oldest urbanization in India is in the Indus saraswati river civilization(Ivsc),An evidence at keerhadi actually shows how the oldest Tamil Brahmi script was adapted from theIVSC script after its collapse and when its people had migrated all over India.This coincides with the oldest known urbanization in the area as well(2400 years back )and formation of what is known as the ASI genetic group common in peninsular India.( mixing of IVSC genes and older local genes).IVSC spoken language is unknown but the script,which is a hieroglyph ( symbolic) script used by traders dating back 4000 +yrs was already aware of Sanskrit as an older language along with many others in the area as evidenced by the homonyms used in the symbols(it’s complicated).BTW I come from a neutral state and am studying this out of interest.And I do agree that the fighting has to stop because whatever the chronology there is ample evidence that the Indo Aryan - Dravidian language theory is made up and all ancient Indian languages are infact native to the subcontinent.
If they have developed parellely, influenced each other, show me one Tamil loan word in Sanskrit.
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And If Taken a Country Like China Who Has Got a Huge Economy Don't You Think India Could Have The Lower Hand In Terms Of After effects Of a War With China On Their Economy
And There's an Old Belarusian Quote Which Says "Wars Are Primarily Fought On Economies Than With Artilleries"
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A stone inscription in Modi script (used to write Marathi language), that was unearthed in Thanjavur reveals that the age of Tamil language could date back to more than 10,000 years. Such archaeological evidence provide ample proof to establish the antiquity of Tamil as an ancient language. Discoveries also point out that the first ‘Tamil Sangam’ existed in 8th century BC. Ancient Tamil words are still in use. After elaborate research on western languages, late professor and author Devaneya Pavanar has established that Tamil is the mother of all languages. As a conclusion of his research in Greek, Latin and English, he says words from Tamil have gone on to influence Latin and English languages. Words such as ‘coin’, ‘coffee’ and ‘navy’ are a few examples that have their roots in Tamil language.