Fun Fact: Sarabande dance that originated in Central America back in the sixteenth century. It became popular in the Spanish colonies before making its way to Europe. At first, it was regarded as being rather scandalous, even being banned in Spain for its obscenity. With this radical attitude of being super conservative what do you think they would say about our innovative modern twerk dance? Its evolved and came a long ways.
The sarabande which you see in this video is the aristocratic version, which is more refined and stripped of the scandalous aspects which caused so much controversy when it originated in Latin America and was then imported to Spain. The original dance was rowdy and fast-paced, not suited to the taste of the elites.
Very astute statement. People of the nobility or upper economic class took a dancing lesson every day. You really had to due to the complexity of the dances, as you suggested. Furthermore, it was common for a dance to be performed by a couple, rather than a group, with the rest of the people looking on. So it really was a performance.
Que belleza 😍, si pudiera agarrar al género asqueroso del regueton y desaparecerlo del mapa intercambiandolo por esta belleza no dudaría en hacerlo automáticamente.
True. I keep seeing titles like "bouree" or "sarabande" etc and wondering wth were the composers alluding to. Turns out they were composing for dances. 😅
It staggers the imagination that an elegant dance like this could be banned for being "indecent". A tango or anything that takes place in a club in this century are much more threatening.
It was not this late 17th-century sarabande that had a reputation of indecency, but rather its ancestral zarabanda that is believed to have been imported into Spain from the New World a century or more earlier. The French, of course, sublimated the original display of primitive lust into the presentation of civilized seduction, which is well expressed by the gentleman here. We can credit the Russians Stravinsky and Diaghilev with re-introducing the more, shall we say, earthy impulses into Western theatrical dance at the beginning of the last century. The rest is history.
It is clear that today this dance form, performed by a couple who does not touch each other with a finger, really makes you smile. That idea of a scandalous dance, which was once attributed to it, was part of the common thought of that time. If you think about the same attitudes of male birds courting females with similar movements, there is nothing scandalous! But the sensitivity and human hypocrisy of that historical moment was more careful not to arouse public scandal, but it was also very hypocritical at the same time, when instead, the courtship between "animal" couples was and is a purely natural fact. However, if we talk about simple courtship, your question is normal, unless it is a question of couples who exhibit attitudes of explicit sex. Ironically, if those ancient people could have seen today's modern dances, I think they would have shivered.
Mr. Merve, l can't be 100% sure, but l don't think it's a mistake.. Early european music can often surprise with a little bit unorthodox melody line, not strictly fitting into (what later became) major-minor system. This music is from (roughly) 150 or more years before Bach, Handel, etc. Personally, l find that point you mentioned - fresh and charming!
@@PeterHoffmannBarocktanz well, compering this specific clip to others I've seen, the dance is way less elegant and is "all over the place" and even at times looks uncoordinated. For a start.
Peter Hoffmann Danke... Dieser Raum ähnelt sehr dem Festsaal im Schloss Charlottenburg in Berlin, welches ich diese Sommerferien besichtigt habe. Ich bin wirklich sehr fasziniert von Schlössern😊
@@laurac.405 well there is a long way between this dance's creation and tiktok's creation u know, i don't even use this applicationi so i can't rly tell if it is that bad^^ i just said that in my point of view, i'm glad that dance have evolve since that old time, but i guess it's a matter of taste, you have the right to like it as i have the right to dislike it, as long as you dont put some hiden insult like the last answer befor your's i'm finie with it :)
Gorgeous, timeless beauty, really love the music and dance, thank you
Fun Fact:
Sarabande dance that originated in Central America back in the sixteenth century. It became popular in the Spanish colonies before making its way to Europe. At first, it was regarded as being rather scandalous, even being banned in Spain for its obscenity.
With this radical attitude of being super conservative what do you think they would say about our innovative modern twerk dance? Its evolved and came a long ways.
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The sarabande which you see in this video is the aristocratic version, which is more refined and stripped of the scandalous aspects which caused so much controversy when it originated in Latin America and was then imported to Spain. The original dance was rowdy and fast-paced, not suited to the taste of the elites.
At one time, Opera was the punk rock of the music world.
Thank you, Peter. I don't know his work, but will look him up. The dance and the music are glorious.Best wishes.
Damn these things are elaborate. I suppose it would have been quite the social faux pas to get the steps wrong.
Yes, indeed. In an age of absolutism, even dance had to be politically, as well as socially, correct.
Very astute statement. People of the nobility or upper economic class took a dancing lesson every day. You really had to due to the complexity of the dances, as you suggested. Furthermore, it was common for a dance to be performed by a couple, rather than a group, with the rest of the people looking on. So it really was a performance.
lol faux PAS , i see what you did there. even if not on purpose lol
@@somethinggtwo lol
Oglądam po przeczytaniu "Rękopisu znalezionego w Saragossie".
Absolutely beautiful!
Que belleza 😍, si pudiera agarrar al género asqueroso del regueton y desaparecerlo del mapa intercambiandolo por esta belleza no dudaría en hacerlo automáticamente.
Reguetoneros, traperos ..escoria ruidosa de grones ..!!
este tipo de danza era considerado asqueroso y vulgar en sus inicios
Well, that makes sense while listening Baroque music.
True. I keep seeing titles like "bouree" or "sarabande" etc and wondering wth were the composers alluding to. Turns out they were composing for dances. 😅
indeed charming and sweet...
One must be light on one's feet and have good balance.
Fantastico!🦋
Quite a workout, it must've been exhausting especially with the heavy clothing. Very beautiful...
Nancy Goo all was so wonderful but the about minus -10°C therefore the smiling is not as well
Peter Hoffmann I had to look up the degrees in Fahrenheit, so it was cold? Well, very enjoyable to watch! Thank you!
se trata de una danza de tempi y caracter contrastante,la española una danza señorial en metro ternario.
My great great grandmother was a Hoffman.
good on you
Very cool. Gotta clap for this.
Magnificent!
It staggers the imagination that an elegant dance like this could be banned for being "indecent". A tango or anything that takes place in a club in this century are much more threatening.
It was not this late 17th-century sarabande that had a reputation of indecency, but rather its ancestral zarabanda that is believed to have been imported into Spain from the New World a century or more earlier. The French, of course, sublimated the original display of primitive lust into the presentation of civilized seduction, which is well expressed by the gentleman here. We can credit the Russians Stravinsky and Diaghilev with re-introducing the more, shall we say, earthy impulses into Western theatrical dance at the beginning of the last century. The rest is history.
That's a very good explanation about european music history. Thank you for the post!
ViniBoneto : Thanks. Glad that you found this very abbreviated thumbnail sketch of interest.
Yeah now we just fuck each other, literally. Dancing has devolved into nothing but simulated or real sex
@@Drax514 which is kind of the point of dancing really.
Gorgeous.
Super ok
Thanks !
блин где эти танци танцую тся мне по музике задали
Сарабанда, по-моему, испанский танец
Why was this considered a controversial dance?
It is clear that today this dance form, performed by a couple who does not touch each other with a finger, really makes you smile. That idea of a scandalous dance, which was once attributed to it, was part of the common thought of that time. If you think about the same attitudes of male birds courting females with similar movements, there is nothing scandalous! But the sensitivity and human hypocrisy of that historical moment was more careful not to arouse public scandal, but it was also very hypocritical at the same time, when instead, the courtship between "animal" couples was and is a purely natural fact. However, if we talk about simple courtship, your question is normal, unless it is a question of couples who exhibit attitudes of explicit sex.
Ironically, if those ancient people could have seen today's modern dances, I think they would have shivered.
The slight suspension of every second step (2/3) was considered a bit laszive. All depends on customs and a certain harmony.
Who is the composer? If Handel, can you give me the suite?
+Nuala C. Galbari The composer is written André Campra the opera is Tencréde
Which version of the dance is this? Is this English, Italian, German or French? Thanks. This seems to me to be moderately slow.
For what i know, the dance style is originally spanish and the composer of this one is french (André Campra)
1:13 the musicians mess up, perhaps? Out of place major 3rd in subdominant approach chord, methinks.
Mr. Merve, l can't be 100% sure, but l don't think it's a mistake.. Early european music can often surprise with a little bit unorthodox melody line, not strictly fitting into (what later became) major-minor system. This music is from (roughly) 150 or more years before Bach, Handel, etc. Personally, l find that point you mentioned - fresh and charming!
I'm not an expert but it looks to me that they've got it wrong.
may you tell me why you have this idea that we are wrong?
@@PeterHoffmannBarocktanz well, compering this specific clip to others I've seen, the dance is way less elegant and is "all over the place" and even at times looks uncoordinated. For a start.
Oha...
👍👍👍
Can anyone explain why this dances title
sounds like Congolese God of Thunders name???
Thank you
That ain't gonna work for me, dawg
Gangsters don't boogie, we sarabande.
In welchem Gebäude wurde dies getanzt? Liebe Grüße Sarah.
Das ist das Schaezlerpalais in Augsburg
Peter Hoffmann Danke... Dieser Raum ähnelt sehr dem Festsaal im Schloss Charlottenburg in Berlin, welches ich diese Sommerferien besichtigt habe. Ich bin wirklich sehr fasziniert von Schlössern😊
Such pretty ness
Bruh
thx god dance have evolve :D
Unfortunately, your grammar seems to be stuck in the Dark Ages. This is a LOT more interesting to watch tha a bunch of drugged out teens at a rave.
@@sandyanarayanswami5708 i'm just not english, and i think if u like this kind of things, u're the one stuck in the dark age :)
@@laurac.405 well there is a long way between this dance's creation and tiktok's creation u know, i don't even use this applicationi so i can't rly tell if it is that bad^^ i just said that in my point of view, i'm glad that dance have evolve since that old time, but i guess it's a matter of taste, you have the right to like it as i have the right to dislike it, as long as you dont put some hiden insult like the last answer befor your's i'm finie with it :)
Looks very awkward.
Trur
Was für ein scheiss
Ja