A year or 2 ago I fell in love with the sound and the GUI of this EQ. There are so many filter types, and the sound is so open and clear. I use it as my main EQ now for Music. Film and TV work. Of course in music I will use 1073 and other vibey plugs and hardware, but for surgical, or basic EQ, this is my main go to.
Some software engineering skills here. I think SSL is probably oversampling the high frequency range in real time (or emulating the results of having done so) while staying very attentive to keeping the cpu load as low as possible. Also, this plugin is on sale today for 34.99 USD, down from 300 USD.
I've been using SSL plugins since their "Duende" days. When I installed their console plugins, it was the first time my "in-the-box" mixes sounded like an outboard, analogue mix, to me.
Cramping happens as you approach Nyquist . The right side of the bell will start to deform and not be symmetrical anymore. Much different from aliasing where you actually have harmonic distortion folding back into the audible range. It is possible to design a filter that is “decramped”, so that the frequency response matches what you’d expect if the nyquist limit was a wall that the filter just slides behind, rather than is squished by it.
I get cramping every night in my leg and/or feet in bed, should I plug myself into this? Then my gf cramps my style when we go out in the evening. My flat is so small I'm cramped. If this solves all my crampation/crampness I will buy it.
Dan Worrall has discussed cramping in depth in several of his videos. If you're nerdy like that you would do well to watch everything he's ever done, but you can start here: ua-cam.com/video/3OoVnTO3AB4/v-deo.html
I bought this after seeing this vid and that it was on sale, and I use it on nearly every single track of every mix. Surgical and musical; you don’t have to be afraid of doing large boosts, they sound awesome-especially in the high end. It’s fantastic, and being able to automate the a and b is super useful for creative applications.
As someone who came from the Analog world to then having $10k of plugins. I am plugin-ed-out. How much different do they all sound? Still in 2021 no one has been able to digitally reproduce a Valve or Transformer with any realism. But I digress, think I may buy another plugin.
It would be interesting to see a CPU usage comparison between the Fab Filter EQ and the X-EQ to be able to show us if the "Anti-Cramping" claims from SSL development are effective on our machines? It's a pretty slick EQ in every way. Great video thank you :)
Here's a tip you don't mention in the video but may have already noticed. The EQ dials are speed sensitive relative to the mouse/trackball movement. Move it slowly and the values change quicker. Move it faster and the values change more slowly. Hold down Command on the Mac (I don't know the Windows version equivalent) while moving and the values change even slower (finer control).
A discussion of cramping behavior should probably include any impacts on phase shifting and latency to be complete. Dan Worrall talks about EQ cramping as well as these other topics in his "what's wrong with stock plugins?" videos, where he compares FabFilter's Pro Q3 with Reaper's ReaEQ and Ableton Live's EQ8.
"Cramping" means the bell curve gets squeezed against the Nyquist frequency so that the curve doesn't retain its natural shape as you move up in frequency.
SSL plugins are top level and this one is no exception. Thanks for this excellent video -your videos are all excellent btw. I wonder how Eventide's SplitEQ stands up when compared to FF ProQ and SSL Native X-EQ 2 :) Cheers!
It’s a great marketing point to add to your product. So if you meant a secret to the customer, nah I think they’d flaunt it instead. But to other developers, maybe they would
Thanks I was looking for a upgrade from my f6 today and was considering fabfilter but with that 179 price tag is steep for a home studio guy like me but this one looks like it fits me best! Thanks for the honest reviews! Appreciate you big bro!✌🏼
Thought exactly the same about the GUI, and it doesn't actually surprise me SSL decided to take that approach. Their controllers show they're at least thinking about continuing to innovated in the digital realm.
I'm not a math-dsp expert but I think anti-cramping is just how they called the way they deal with digital distortion (ghost mirrored harmonics and q-factor deviations) when equing frequencies near Nyquist.... without relying on oversampling.
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An interesting attempt to tackle phase mismatch especially in the bass region: Sound Radix Pi. It is a tricky and original plugin. Many times it produces unpleasant artifacts. But when it works, it is amazing how much it can fix, for example, the punchiness of a kick drum + bass + distorted guitar low growl. I recommend a thorough demoing of it if you care about phase issues.
there is a difference between dynamic eq and mutliband compression. Dynamic EQs are not Multiband-compressors with a small Q. But yes, the option for dynamic EQs should become mandatory, especially for EQs that cost 300 Bucks.
@@SamFerrara A compressor compresses/folds a signal. That means that while ALL parts of the affected area get "turned down" it is a PROCENTUAL (%) effect. That means that the louder parts of the signal (or frequency-selection) are affected more than the quieter parts. An equalizer simply increases or decreases the chosen frequencies by by a fixed amount.. it doesn't "fold".. that means every part of the frequency is affected exactly the same, not procentual, but ABSOLUTE - for instance -6 db. Imagine a Dwarf and a Troll living in the frequency-area you want to affect.. when you fully affect (via lowest threshold) them with a compressor (2:1 ratio) the troll who was 12 feet is suddenly 6 feet big.. means he loses 6 feet of height.. and the dwarf who was 3 feet is suddenly 1,5 feet.. only losing 1,5 feet. When you affect them with an eq (-2dB/feet) the troll and the dwarf both only lose 2 feets to their height.. which means the troll is now 10 feet tall and the dwarf 1 feet short. Now in case you are wondering: "But Gerhard, dynamic EQs don't always substract the exact range I put in" .. I'll explain it to you. You set the Threshold and the range.. now if if you set the range to -2 dB for instance and the signal is only 1dB over the threshold, only 1 dB of reduction will occur - (no compression) clean reduction. But it doesn't matter wether the signal is 2, 4, 6 or 12 dB over the Threshold.. it will never reduce more than 2 dB, if the range is set to -2 dB. Hope that helps :)
@@akagerhard Sounds like your just describing how one specific dynamic eq works. By that definition TDR Nova isn’t a dynamic eq. Tokyo Dawn seem to think differently.
SSL does have the vintage EQ cause I have it. I with they would of combined this with that. But this is nice and what I really want. 💯💣👍 I have the Reverb from SSL and it's really dope. and SSL supports offline computers.
Hey, such a nice review, could you please review Acon Digital equalize 2. Please. + I have ssl bundle, do you recommend using this eq over my main acon digital equalize 2?
Always refreshing to hear you be honest when you don't know something or haven't heard of a particular term. I'm going to give this a demo and see how it compares on my own productions.
This ssl native eq2 is More Build it in the way of the Software-eq‘s in the Bigger live & broadcast consoles from ssl like systemT s500/s300 or l550 ... and they are really Good!!!
I don’t think the phase shifts matter much between different instruments, because different frequencies are already partially out of phase. That phase shift shown is only the difference between the original sound and after eq, but it doesn’t mean that a signal will be more or less in phase with other instruments. Dan Worrall even made a video showing that parallel eq doesn’t make a huge difference.
seriously inspiring! To see you a) being honest about a gap in your knowledge and b) learning new stuff 'live' and sharing your learning with us. Very encouraging to me as a student of audio processing. Many thanks (ps I watched Dan's video on Cramping just prior to watching this one. You both make a great team :))
What I've always liked about the SSL plugins (not the accompanying ones with the new dedicated controller, which have the controller to fit the plugins looks) is they're all computer relevant, instead of trying to look like hardware... this EQ is so great on top on it all... For the first year, I will be going with subscriptions to figure out what I need... the SSL collection is one of the more confident collections... I get the issue with subscriptions as an overall thing... but budgets are often causing great costs over time... having more money to invest can save you money... and this is the business world that is always helping already rich ones
Pro Q-3 sounds quite different In “Linear Phase-Medium” mode. Was noticing comparisons early on with Pro Q set to “zero latency”. That will indeed sound very different from the X-EQ2
IMO when we finally get a plugin that will get rid of any artefact (flat phase, flat impulse, no ringing etc.)... then it will sound so unnatural that we will not like it at all. For me, LP EQs are already 'not ear-friendly.
I’ve been using Pro Tools since V5, and this is the first time I’ve heard of Anti-Cramping 😅 I did abandon Avid’s EQ for FF, many years ago. Nice UI on the SSL. The price might be a lot for some, but it sounds good.
Well, Dan Worrall certainly would NOT approve of your lack of cramping knowledge in regards to EQ curves as an audio engineer. You need to step up your game bud.
One of them has no cramping, the other one has it built in -> (comparison) after the phase invertion there was a total silence... So, how was it possible? :) What is more interesting - what we found this "cramping" is a mystery... So, does it exist at all? :)
I would seriously buy this just because of all these convenient features. Cant wait for them to implement maybe dynamic eq or linear phase then im 100% sold
Oversampling is not an anti-aliasing filter. An anti-aliasing filter is a low pass filter that just rolls off the highs at Nyquist to prevent aliasing in the digital realm. Oversampling can help an anti-aliasing filter start rolling off at a higher frequency as to not affect the mix. But the two are not the same.
I am just an intrested sound liking guy and video post person but even I really like your nerdy trips thaugh you really describes them so good. I am using the Izotope RX7 and Ozon and more but dont have any Daw for theire really good filters as Dialogue Match and others I have seen on your chanell. The ProoTools is to expensive and by far not complicated in my flield. Can you recomend any use friendly Daw for average use with on purhase where you can impliment most of 3 parts filters ? ex for this eq wich I also really, realy liked.
I was about to mention plugin doctor when I saw the comment about dan worral, but also, proQ3 has the function where the gain and Q can be independent or dependent on each other just this like analog gear. It's a small gear button on each band that functions globally, gold and purple colored.
The type of Q control you are talking about is called "asymmetrical". It was made popular by early Studer Consoles and later by API Consoles. Every Brand has their own Q factor style so a Q of 1.0 will not be the same. This is why the lines on the background of these EQ's is consistent across professional EQ plugins, it allows you to match the EQs based on the logarithmic frequency scale. Most parametric EQ's have this option. Even REA-EQ, Pro-Q, SSL & others. It's from old school graphical analyzers. Back then there were 2 types the Logarithmic scale with the lines which became the default way, and Bar Graph analyzers which didn't catch on in Pro Audio but were popular in consumer stereos.
Om te mixen onbruikbaar dus, voor mastering, misschien? Ik heb al een ton EQ's, en veel dat ik niet gebruik. Tegenwoordig vraag ik me bij deze dingen af, waar ga ik dit voor gebruiken, en dan is het antwoord meestal, niet. Al blijft het allemaal wel mooi en interessant.
thank you for the video. ive recently started using the SSL channel strip v2 which also using anti-cramping and i've really noticed how much it helps keeps the top end clear when implements many instances. I will use that channel strip on all of my stem outputs going to my analog summing. there's something to it. multiple instances sum much nicer than UAD or plug-in alliance channel strips. I didn't buy the EQ that you're reviewing because I have so many plug-ins I don't use, but now I'm thinking I should pick it up lol.
anti-cramping without oversampling and also without cpu-efficiency problems? my only idea would be that they might have found a way to design filters that are nice and round on one side and kinda blocky on the other side, so that they can let that block go almost til nyquist before it drops, or something like that. are asymetrical filters a thing? idk. don't pin my comment pls, i might have said total garbage, but that's just what i could imagine so far.
Like the Model D Moog's synth Architecture .. There can be Subtractive Mixing.... Whats not to like? If it sounds good, no probs.... Or maybe don't use a phaser on a guitar/synth.. anything? .............
There doesn't seem to be a way to zoom the DB scale or make the plugin full screen. This results in very little working area if you're trying to be very precise without resorting to typing or moving the scrollers around one pixel at a time. This seems to be something alot of graphic eq plugin makers get wrong. The best way is to allow mouse wheel scrolling on the DB scale to give any zoom level you want. the worse way is set multiple choices, and what stops me from buying fabfilter pro-q or kirchhoff. The two problems with multiple choice zoom levels, like 3db, 6, 12 etc is that's for fine mastering, 2 db or less is what I'm doing most of the time to well mixed material. I want as much screen space to work as I possible. Why should I take up an extra 1 db of range at top and bottom for no reason? The other problem is still what if I want alot of screen range between say 4 and 6 db? The biggest zoom gets me only 0-3db, to see 4-6 I have to go smaller. The two EQs I know the get it right with the non-interval mousewheel vertical zoom are Izotope Ozone which is my go to, but also Kilohearts Slice. Slice gets it even better than Ozone because Slice lets you zoom to a db scale of 1.3db +/- where Ozone is only about 2.2. Still the Gui of Ozone is better, with it's color coding, and easy to spot band parameter display/entry available at the bottom. I was checking out X-EQ 2 based on owning Flexverb. I'm absolutely floored by how good flexverb sounds and how easy it is to control. X-EQ 2 seems to give less than 1/2 inch of screen resolution for 1 db. The space for 6db is about 1 inch. That's pretty rediculous for this kind of EQ, unless I'm wrong about how it works. I mean really, if you're boosting/cutting 6db often, you either don't know what you're doing or probably have terrible material you're working on.
Preferred the Fab filter sound TBH. Interesting EQ Protools tip : hold CTRL + SHIFT while selecting an EQ band in the GUI . Cool as phuq. ( works on PT eq and some other 3rd party plugs}
Hey Whitesea! THANK YOU for this fabulous video. I was trying to figure out how to use this SSL EQ, and your teaching about phase & eq was really insightful. Thanks man, keep up the good work!
So I am watching every new snake oil video for a while now....but I never understand the joke with the "Sandstorm from Da Roots". Could anybody explain it to me please?
"I'll decide that for myself" damn you got my vote man!
A year or 2 ago I fell in love with the sound and the GUI of this EQ. There are so many filter types, and the sound is so open and clear. I use it as my main EQ now for Music. Film and TV work. Of course in music I will use 1073 and other vibey plugs and hardware, but for surgical, or basic EQ, this is my main go to.
Film and TV work is what i use it for too.
pro-q also has the gain-Q interaction thing
Some software engineering skills here. I think SSL is probably oversampling the high frequency range in real time (or emulating the results of having done so) while staying very attentive to keeping the cpu load as low as possible. Also, this plugin is on sale today for 34.99 USD, down from 300 USD.
That’s a neat GUI design, they took “direct manipulation” by heart. Any software developer / UI designer please take note of it.
I've been using SSL plugins since their "Duende" days. When I installed their console plugins, it was the first time my "in-the-box" mixes sounded like an outboard, analogue mix, to me.
Good to know :)
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do you know the differences between Valve and X-comp ?
@@Renaxelo nope. I only use the console plugins. Master bus, channel strip and vocal strip.
Me as well. Still have the Duende hardware unit!
Cramping happens as you approach Nyquist . The right side of the bell will start to deform and not be symmetrical anymore. Much different from aliasing where you actually have harmonic distortion folding back into the audible range. It is possible to design a filter that is “decramped”, so that the frequency response matches what you’d expect if the nyquist limit was a wall that the filter just slides behind, rather than is squished by it.
it seems to me that you shouldn't need this filter than if you're working at a higher sample rate? if your Nyquist is 48K.... ?
@@hopetownsound no, the nyquist is at HALF of the samplerate.
@@aboliguu1168 I'm not sure what you think I was talking about, but 48 would be half of 96k
@@hopetownsound oh sorry, I thought you were talking about 48khz sample rate… then you are probably right
I get cramping every night in my leg and/or feet in bed, should I plug myself into this? Then my gf cramps my style when we go out in the evening. My flat is so small I'm cramped. If this solves all my crampation/crampness I will buy it.
If your flat is small, just boost the highs and widen it to reduce the cramping!
...I'll see myself out.
well, nutrition my man. Bananas would be a start. And if you still have problems maybe consider a bit of excercise, stretching and cuddling.
Better buy Magnesium Pills ! 😉😎😂
Oh cramp..🤣😜🙃😉
In Fabfilter's Q3 atleast, you can hold Shift for extra sensitivity. Hold Shift + Alt for "locking" horizontal/vertical movements while adjusting.
Thank you for explaining phase. That's the best explanation anyone has given in my opinion.
They do $39/$49 deals here and there which is awesome. I've got the X EQ 2, Channel Strip 2 and Bus Comp 2 all for $88 total through their sales.
Dan Worrall has discussed cramping in depth in several of his videos. If you're nerdy like that you would do well to watch everything he's ever done, but you can start here:
ua-cam.com/video/3OoVnTO3AB4/v-deo.html
I bought this after seeing this vid and that it was on sale, and I use it on nearly every single track of every mix. Surgical and musical; you don’t have to be afraid of doing large boosts, they sound awesome-especially in the high end. It’s fantastic, and being able to automate the a and b is super useful for creative applications.
I got a lot of cramping while making music, but then I solved it by using a trackball.
I can't understand why noone remarked on how good that shaker sounded on the SSL
Exactly
Needs more cowbell
As someone who came from the Analog world to then having $10k of plugins. I am plugin-ed-out. How much different do they all sound? Still in 2021 no one has been able to digitally reproduce a Valve or Transformer with any realism. But I digress, think I may buy another plugin.
It would be interesting to see a CPU usage comparison between the Fab Filter EQ and the X-EQ to be able to show us if the "Anti-Cramping" claims from SSL development are effective on our machines? It's a pretty slick EQ in every way. Great video thank you :)
Is it a lot of CPU usage
Here's a tip you don't mention in the video but may have already noticed. The EQ dials are speed sensitive relative to the mouse/trackball movement. Move it slowly and the values change quicker. Move it faster and the values change more slowly. Hold down Command on the Mac (I don't know the Windows version equivalent) while moving and the values change even slower (finer control).
A discussion of cramping behavior should probably include any impacts on phase shifting and latency to be complete. Dan Worrall talks about EQ cramping as well as these other topics in his "what's wrong with stock plugins?" videos, where he compares FabFilter's Pro Q3 with Reaper's ReaEQ and Ableton Live's EQ8.
Very beautiful interface, I must say.
"Cramping" means the bell curve gets squeezed against the Nyquist frequency so that the curve doesn't retain its natural shape as you move up in frequency.
SSL plugins are top level and this one is no exception. Thanks for this excellent video -your videos are all excellent btw. I wonder how Eventide's SplitEQ stands up when compared to FF ProQ and SSL Native X-EQ 2 :) Cheers!
Hi from Brazil!
Wouldn't you keep it a trade secret if you invented "oversampling" without dramatic CPU usage?
It’s a great marketing point to add to your product. So if you meant a secret to the customer, nah I think they’d flaunt it instead. But to other developers, maybe they would
@root I know! It is a way to avoid oversampling.
it also adds ZERO latency to the project, unlike FF pro-Q 3 which adds 106.7ms latency (on my computer)
Thanks I was looking for a upgrade from my f6 today and was considering fabfilter but with that 179 price tag is steep for a home studio guy like me but this one looks like it fits me best! Thanks for the honest reviews! Appreciate you big bro!✌🏼
Thought exactly the same about the GUI, and it doesn't actually surprise me SSL decided to take that approach. Their controllers show they're at least thinking about continuing to innovated in the digital realm.
Was it me or did the SSL EQ sounded a bit smoother than the Pro-Q 3?
The phase response statement is why EQing in solo can be incredibly problematic.
dmg audio equilibrium BEST!
I'm not a math-dsp expert but I think anti-cramping is just how they called the way they deal with digital distortion (ghost mirrored harmonics and q-factor deviations) when equing frequencies near Nyquist.... without relying on oversampling.
An interesting attempt to tackle phase mismatch especially in the bass region: Sound Radix Pi. It is a tricky and original plugin. Many times it produces unpleasant artifacts. But when it works, it is amazing how much it can fix, for example, the punchiness of a kick drum + bass + distorted guitar low growl. I recommend a thorough demoing of it if you care about phase issues.
Man, if only the X-EQ2 had dynamic compression like FabFilter does...
Yoooo I'm waiting on this!!!
there is a difference between dynamic eq and mutliband compression. Dynamic EQs are not Multiband-compressors with a small Q. But yes, the option for dynamic EQs should become mandatory, especially for EQs that cost 300 Bucks.
@@akagerhard They aren't? What are they, then?
@@SamFerrara A compressor compresses/folds a signal. That means that while ALL parts of the affected area get "turned down" it is a PROCENTUAL (%) effect. That means that the louder parts of the signal (or frequency-selection) are affected more than the quieter parts. An equalizer simply increases or decreases the chosen frequencies by by a fixed amount.. it doesn't "fold".. that means every part of the frequency is affected exactly the same, not procentual, but ABSOLUTE - for instance -6 db. Imagine a Dwarf and a Troll living in the frequency-area you want to affect.. when you fully affect (via lowest threshold) them with a compressor (2:1 ratio) the troll who was 12 feet is suddenly 6 feet big.. means he loses 6 feet of height.. and the dwarf who was 3 feet is suddenly 1,5 feet.. only losing 1,5 feet. When you affect them with an eq (-2dB/feet) the troll and the dwarf both only lose 2 feets to their height.. which means the troll is now 10 feet tall and the dwarf 1 feet short.
Now in case you are wondering: "But Gerhard, dynamic EQs don't always substract the exact range I put in" .. I'll explain it to you. You set the Threshold and the range.. now if if you set the range to -2 dB for instance and the signal is only 1dB over the threshold, only 1 dB of reduction will occur - (no compression) clean reduction. But it doesn't matter wether the signal is 2, 4, 6 or 12 dB over the Threshold.. it will never reduce more than 2 dB, if the range is set to -2 dB.
Hope that helps :)
@@akagerhard Sounds like your just describing how one specific dynamic eq works. By that definition TDR Nova isn’t a dynamic eq. Tokyo Dawn seem to think differently.
Aww come on. At least review the most used ones and pretty much their flagship: ssl native channel and bus comp
This eq is more interesting than another SSL emulator that sounds actually really good
SSL does have the vintage EQ cause I have it. I with they would of combined this with that. But this is nice and what I really want. 💯💣👍 I have the Reverb from SSL and it's really dope. and SSL supports offline computers.
A phase response is a derivative of the eq curve function.
:D
Haha: "Im geeking, I think..." Too funny. Dont worry, we are all geeking right along with ya.
Currently on sale 80% off!!
I had this EQ for over a year…opened it today for a mix and my mind was BLOWN!!!!
Hey, such a nice review, could you please review Acon Digital equalize 2.
Please.
+ I have ssl bundle, do you recommend using this eq over my main acon digital equalize 2?
Always refreshing to hear you be honest when you don't know something or haven't heard of a particular term. I'm going to give this a demo and see how it compares on my own productions.
This EQ contains much of Algorithmix Blue, which was re-released not so long ago as 64 bit & VST3 by MAAT.
another nice video :D
youve been playing darude so many times its evolved to: That Rude Sensor
From my understanding (can't recall where I read this), both this an the MAAT EQs use their curves/algorithms from a company called Algorhythmix.
I'd like to see you do a video on the amek 9099 by plugin alliance. Thanks for your time and effort in what you do.
This ssl native eq2 is More Build it in the way of the Software-eq‘s in the Bigger live & broadcast consoles from ssl like systemT s500/s300 or l550 ... and they are really Good!!!
SSL notices that FabFilter does it right and quietly climbs aboard the bandwagon because people want quality not old graphics to look like a desk
I don’t think the phase shifts matter much between different instruments, because different frequencies are already partially out of phase. That phase shift shown is only the difference between the original sound and after eq, but it doesn’t mean that a signal will be more or less in phase with other instruments. Dan Worrall even made a video showing that parallel eq doesn’t make a huge difference.
seriously inspiring! To see you a) being honest about a gap in your knowledge and b) learning new stuff 'live' and sharing your learning with us. Very encouraging to me as a student of audio processing. Many thanks
(ps I watched Dan's video on Cramping just prior to watching this one. You both make a great team :))
audio processing? wth? is this?
@@jasonchu4400 That's when you process audio.
Have you tried Ssl native channel strips and bus compressor as well ?
What I've always liked about the SSL plugins (not the accompanying ones with the new dedicated controller, which have the controller to fit the plugins looks) is they're all computer relevant, instead of trying to look like hardware... this EQ is so great on top on it all... For the first year, I will be going with subscriptions to figure out what I need... the SSL collection is one of the more confident collections... I get the issue with subscriptions as an overall thing... but budgets are often causing great costs over time... having more money to invest can save you money... and this is the business world that is always helping already rich ones
ssl channel strip 2 also uses anti cramping check it and the bus compressor 2 also very worth it
Pro Q-3 sounds quite different In “Linear Phase-Medium” mode. Was noticing comparisons early on with Pro Q set to “zero latency”. That will indeed sound very different from the X-EQ2
IMO when we finally get a plugin that will get rid of any artefact (flat phase, flat impulse, no ringing etc.)... then it will sound so unnatural that we will not like it at all. For me, LP EQs are already 'not ear-friendly.
A Review of MD4 would be very interesting. Maybe in comparison to the Fab Pro MB.
When there is one plugin suite, that is 100% not snake oil, then it’s SSL Native. They’re all equally amazing.
These plug ins blow, waves, slate and T Racks away!!
They don't have side information, like analogue hardware does, hence why digital is so flat and harsh.
12:14 iirc Dan Worrall mentioned that fabfilter uses a different Q scale than other EQs.
My virtual Nyquist cramping draws me closer to SSL's monthly package. They might also have a plug-in to reduce ligyrophobia (the mid-side strain). 🔊
I’ve been using Pro Tools since V5, and this is the first time I’ve heard of Anti-Cramping 😅 I did abandon Avid’s EQ for FF, many years ago. Nice UI on the SSL. The price might be a lot for some, but it sounds good.
Upon hearing eq "anti-cramping," some may feel compelled to look the phrase up-very similar to when you hear the word "skeuomorphism."
i did learn a lot
My girlfriend used to get cramping, Ill suggest she get onto the SSL dsp designers to ease her struggle
Well, Dan Worrall certainly would NOT approve of your lack of cramping knowledge in regards to EQ curves as an audio engineer. You need to step up your game bud.
One of them has no cramping, the other one has it built in -> (comparison) after the phase invertion there was a total silence... So, how was it possible? :) What is more interesting - what we found this "cramping" is a mystery... So, does it exist at all? :)
maybe his session was 96kHz or above
I would seriously buy this just because of all these convenient features. Cant wait for them to implement maybe dynamic eq or linear phase then im 100% sold
The SSL eq sounds x1000 times better than Fab Filter Pro-Q 3. This is a good demostration of it.
11:59 they are the same. They null.
This guy didn’t even test the plugin in parallel mode. Looks like doesn’t even know what’s going on there really
by that logic your channel name is snake oil instead of white sea studio. seeing how you got a problem with people having names for things.
White Sea literally is my first name 😂… Wytse
Thank you for the video!
By the way - do you make your music? Would be very interesting to listen to it!
He doesn't.
Zo kunnen echt alleen Nederlanders praten, kritisch zijn en gelijk blij worden:)),
Pro-Q3 is decramped. As many other well coded EQ (and analog EQ).
Do you know if Native instruments solid eq is? It sounds really good
Probably just an anti-aliasing filter
That's what oversampling is.
Aka that’s explicitly what they’re *not* doing.
Oversampling is not an anti-aliasing filter. An anti-aliasing filter is a low pass filter that just rolls off the highs at Nyquist to prevent aliasing in the digital realm. Oversampling can help an anti-aliasing filter start rolling off at a higher frequency as to not affect the mix. But the two are not the same.
THe UI is great. Very musical EQ.
Healing Oil.
Yeah, I bought this one immediately after trying it when it came out. So good.
..you're 'GEEKIN-OUT' bro! lmfao!😂🤣😁
I am just an intrested sound liking guy and video post person but even I really like your nerdy trips thaugh you really describes them so good. I am using the Izotope RX7 and Ozon and more but dont have any Daw for theire really good filters as Dialogue Match and others I have seen on your chanell. The ProoTools is to expensive
and by far not complicated in my flield. Can you recomend any use friendly Daw for average use with on purhase where you can impliment most of 3 parts filters ? ex for this eq wich I also really, realy liked.
Very informative, Thanks!
I was about to mention plugin doctor when I saw the comment about dan worral, but also, proQ3 has the function where the gain and Q can be independent or dependent on each other just this like analog gear. It's a small gear button on each band that functions globally, gold and purple colored.
well if it is nulling you can stop listening to the differences as there are for sure non 🙂
Anti-cramping algorithms preserve high-frequency information sometimes lost in a digital-audio environment
The type of Q control you are talking about is called "asymmetrical". It was made popular by early Studer Consoles and later by API Consoles. Every Brand has their own Q factor style so a Q of 1.0 will not be the same. This is why the lines on the background of these EQ's is consistent across professional EQ plugins, it allows you to match the EQs based on the logarithmic frequency scale. Most parametric EQ's have this option. Even REA-EQ, Pro-Q, SSL & others. It's from old school graphical analyzers. Back then there were 2 types the Logarithmic scale with the lines which became the default way, and Bar Graph analyzers which didn't catch on in Pro Audio but were popular in consumer stereos.
Anyone else happen to see a polarity button on this unit or no?
Om te mixen onbruikbaar dus, voor mastering, misschien? Ik heb al een ton EQ's, en veel dat ik niet gebruik. Tegenwoordig vraag ik me bij deze dingen af, waar ga ik dit voor gebruiken, en dan is het antwoord meestal, niet. Al blijft het allemaal wel mooi en interessant.
thank you for the video. ive recently started using the SSL channel strip v2 which also using anti-cramping and i've really noticed how much it helps keeps the top end clear when implements many instances. I will use that channel strip on all of my stem outputs going to my analog summing. there's something to it. multiple instances sum much nicer than UAD or plug-in alliance channel strips.
I didn't buy the EQ that you're reviewing because I have so many plug-ins I don't use, but now I'm thinking I should pick it up lol.
anti-cramping without oversampling and also without cpu-efficiency problems? my only idea would be that they might have found a way to design filters that are nice and round on one side and kinda blocky on the other side, so that they can let that block go almost til nyquist before it drops, or something like that. are asymetrical filters a thing? idk. don't pin my comment pls, i might have said total garbage, but that's just what i could imagine so far.
its a very staight forward yet awesome souding eq, what more could you ask for. its SSL so it has to be good and it definitely is.
Like the Model D Moog's synth Architecture .. There can be Subtractive Mixing.... Whats not to like? If it sounds good, no probs.... Or maybe don't use a phaser on a guitar/synth.. anything? .............
Please dissect FiDef plugin. I smell some oil.
A differential analysis would be nice. Just do it! The world will thank you.
You're the only person I trust in that matter.
Am I the only one that didn't notice the sound diffrence?
If you didnt hear the sound difference when the Q:s where off you need new monitors/headphones
I can hear the difference on iPhone 12 speakers
There doesn't seem to be a way to zoom the DB scale or make the plugin full screen. This results in very little working area if you're trying to be very precise without resorting to typing or moving the scrollers around one pixel at a time. This seems to be something alot of graphic eq plugin makers get wrong. The best way is to allow mouse wheel scrolling on the DB scale to give any zoom level you want. the worse way is set multiple choices, and what stops me from buying fabfilter pro-q or kirchhoff.
The two problems with multiple choice zoom levels, like 3db, 6, 12 etc is that's for fine mastering, 2 db or less is what I'm doing most of the time to well mixed material. I want as much screen space to work as I possible. Why should I take up an extra 1 db of range at top and bottom for no reason? The other problem is still what if I want alot of screen range between say 4 and 6 db? The biggest zoom gets me only 0-3db, to see 4-6 I have to go smaller.
The two EQs I know the get it right with the non-interval mousewheel vertical zoom are Izotope Ozone which is my go to, but also Kilohearts Slice. Slice gets it even better than Ozone because Slice lets you zoom to a db scale of 1.3db +/- where Ozone is only about 2.2. Still the Gui of Ozone is better, with it's color coding, and easy to spot band parameter display/entry available at the bottom.
I was checking out X-EQ 2 based on owning Flexverb. I'm absolutely floored by how good flexverb sounds and how easy it is to control. X-EQ 2 seems to give less than 1/2 inch of screen resolution for 1 db. The space for 6db is about 1 inch. That's pretty rediculous for this kind of EQ, unless I'm wrong about how it works. I mean really, if you're boosting/cutting 6db often, you either don't know what you're doing or probably have terrible material you're working on.
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU USED DARUDE - SANDSTORM. I liked that song when I was a kid. Thank u for using that song in this video
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Preferred the Fab filter sound TBH. Interesting EQ Protools tip : hold CTRL + SHIFT while selecting an EQ band in the GUI . Cool as phuq. ( works on PT eq and some other 3rd party plugs}
Hey Whitesea! THANK YOU for this fabulous video. I was trying to figure out how to use this SSL EQ, and your teaching about phase & eq was really insightful. Thanks man, keep up the good work!
Have you tried out the new SSL UC1 yet...?
20 kHz filter here on UA-cam, nothing to worry about
So I am watching every new snake oil video for a while now....but I never understand the joke with the "Sandstorm from Da Roots". Could anybody explain it to me please?
wow, sounds good